Re: [osol-discuss] Dropped my PC, S11e behaves strange??? Help!
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > Not really - Solaris doesn't rely on where a drive is placed - as he said, > the OS comes up correctly, but some services might not start. > That's not entirely correct. If you move the disk containing the root pool to another controller port, you may have to reimport the pool once from a live media session to update the device path stored in the pool, which is used to locate it at boot. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] eSATA works fine?
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Orvar Korvar wrote: > I suspect USB 3.0 needs Solaris drivers, and there are no such drivers yet? > I don't think there are USB 3.0 controller drivers. > How about eSATA? Does it need Solaris drivers as well? And where can I get > such drivers? Does eSATA work well? Do I need to use HCL compatible eSATA > chipset or something? What do I need to think about? eSATA is a physical connector and electrical standard for SATA. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Orvar Korvar wrote: > I just want an integrated 3D in a cpu that can give me 1080p, Compiz, simple > games in Wine/VirtualBox, etc. It is not really important to me if I get > updates to a 3D driver, as long as it gives me the above. I hope Sandybridge > would give me this? What do you think, should the Solarsi 3D driver for > Sandybridge be able to give me all this? Never mind frequent updates... Yes, most Intel integrated graphics chips from the past few years (with the notable exception of the GMA 500) should be fine for Compiz, HD video playback, and some games. Wine's Direct3D-on-GL implementation tends to depend on features not present in the Intel drivers, though. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Mounting hard drive NTFS
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote: > To my knowledge, the only way to get good NTFS speed is via network. > Impossible to get NTFS speed directly on a Solaris computer. NTFS-3G works reasonably well, about as well as any FUSE-based filesystem can work anyway. It's in SFE. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] songbird bug
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Paul Gress wrote: > On 12/ 8/10 07:06 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > > Paul Gress wrote: > > On 12/ 8/10 02:23 PM, Mike DeMarco wrote: > > When I upgraded from b134 to b151a Songbird hit a bug that makes it play the > second song over and over again. I tried to go into the b134 repository and > download that version but even though I as in the 134 repository my system > kept installing from the b151 repository. How can I install from an older > repository? > > As a temporary solution (or permanent if it never gets fixed) > > Songbird is being removed in build 156 since the upstream stopped > supporting Linux/Unix platforms: > > http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2010/04/02/songbird-singing-a-new-tune/ > http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/jds-review/2010-December/004042.html > > (Of course, the sources & spec files are available for those who > build from spec-files-extra or if anyone wanted to maintain prebuilt > packages to share with others.) > > > I've noticed that Nightingale has started posting source. > > http://getnightingale.com/ > http://getnightingale.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=28 > > Any interest in continuing from there? > The people involved in the new Nightingale can probably be found on irc.mozilla.org. From what I understand, POTI is also generally supportive of these efforts. Alfred, Steve, and I did the original Songbird port to OpenSolaris (also ironically called Project Nightingale), and while I don't have time to work on this now, I can provide resources (build systems and project hosting) for anyone interested. I'm CC'ing this over to desktop-discuss since that's the more specific list for this. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Map snv_ versions into release versions
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Miguel Garcia wrote: > Thanks, I understand that, but if I need to find a OpenSolaris release as > described in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSolaris#Version_history how > can I do it for a given svn_ ? > > Or from your explanation it is legitimate to say that NVD affected versions > are only the developing versions? > > thanks > All of the intermediate builds, and later builds up to 134 were considered development releases and are available in the package repository and as installer images (mirrored on http://genunix.org/ ). 134b is only available in the package repository. The distinction between production and development releases is largely meaningless now. -Alber ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Map snv_ versions into release versions
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:37 AM, John Weekley wrote:
> On 11/15/2010 10:23 AM, Albert Lee wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Miguel Garcia
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm working with NVD (national vulnerability database) when they refer a
>>> OpenSolaris version they use snv_XX but I need to match this snv_ to a real
>>> version ("donwloadable")
>>
>> These are the build numbers of OpenSolaris and upcoming Solaris 11
>> Express (as well as older Solaris Express) releases, which follow the
>> build number of the core OS/Net component; "snv" is the Solaris Nevada
>> codename for ON development.
>>
>> The latest released build from Oracle is 134 as "OpenSolaris
>> development build 134", while ON source is available up to 147 and
>> other distributions are based on the newer source.
>>
>> -Albert
>>
> Looks like the latest "Express" version is build 151
>
Yeah, good timing. The just-released Solaris 11 Express is snv_151a.
pkg.opensolaris.org/release was updated with 134b as an upgrade path
for current OpenSolaris users.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Map snv_ versions into release versions
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Miguel Garcia
wrote:
> I'm working with NVD (national vulnerability database) when they refer a
> OpenSolaris version they use snv_XX but I need to match this snv_ to a real
> version ("donwloadable")
These are the build numbers of OpenSolaris and upcoming Solaris 11
Express (as well as older Solaris Express) releases, which follow the
build number of the core OS/Net component; "snv" is the Solaris Nevada
codename for ON development.
The latest released build from Oracle is 134 as "OpenSolaris
development build 134", while ON source is available up to 147 and
other distributions are based on the newer source.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Changing Username Default Length from 8 to 32 or more
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Peter wrote: > Hi, I have researched online in order to solve this and didn't find any > information. [b]Could you please how can I create a new username (numbers > based) eg. -?[/b] > > please let me know, I'll apretiate your kindly help!!! > > bergmp at gmail dot com Peter, It's considered rude to spam *copies* of your message to other lists, especially when they have little to do with your question. Since the maximum user ID is 2147483647 and your desired "usernames" are going to be numerical, depending on what you're doing may be able to use UIDs directly and have some arbitrary string generated from the UIDs for usernames. If you are actually interested in the technical problems that increasing the username limit would face, see: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=481943 -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [b 134] consensus on create static IP
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Albert Lee writes: > >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> >>> [Note: This may appear as a double post or some goofy cross post >>> I inadvertently posted this on the openindiana group when I was >>> supposed to go here, opensolaris.general >>> >>> I've been pawing around with google looking for a standard way to set >>> up a static IP address on newer opensolaris builds, in this case b >>> 134. >>> >>> I see at least 3 different methods described... all different. >>> >>> The most recent appears to be Jan 2010... but doesn't say what build. >>> >>> Before I start just mucking around experimenting, isn't there a tried >>> and true way to do this by now? >>> >>> Some straightforward numbered guide that works for recent builds? >>> >> >> The "legacy" /etc/hostname.* approach (covered in the Solaris 10 docs) >> will work on any build if you disable NWAM and enable physical:default >> as described in nwamd(1). >> >> If you only have one interface you can use the NWAM static >> configuration mentioned in nwamd(1). This works in builds prior to 135 >> (when NWAM Phase I integrated), for later builds, you can use nwamcfg >> or the graphical nwam-manager. > > Thanks for the good info.. well appreciated. > > You mention builds `prior to 135'. I was under the impression that 134 > was the last build... since the big oracle affair kicked off. > > What other builds beyond 134 are available? and where? > Build 134 was the last released build of the "OpenSolaris" distribution by Oracle, which is now Solaris 11 Express. Aside from no longer releasing OpenSolaris builds, the main change by Oracle was that development of the core OS/Net consolidation ceased to be public shortly after build 147. The illumos Project has forked the post-147 ON to create a community-maintained version of the core software. The OpenIndiana distribution, which is a direct upgrade path from OpenSolaris, is built on the post-147 source and expected to be based on illumos in the future. Oracle Solaris 11 Express is expected soon, which is likely to be a respin of build 151. -Alhert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [b 134] consensus on create static IP
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > [Note: This may appear as a double post or some goofy cross post > I inadvertently posted this on the openindiana group when I was > supposed to go here, opensolaris.general > > I've been pawing around with google looking for a standard way to set > up a static IP address on newer opensolaris builds, in this case b > 134. > > I see at least 3 different methods described... all different. > > The most recent appears to be Jan 2010... but doesn't say what build. > > Before I start just mucking around experimenting, isn't there a tried > and true way to do this by now? > > Some straightforward numbered guide that works for recent builds? > The "legacy" /etc/hostname.* approach (covered in the Solaris 10 docs) will work on any build if you disable NWAM and enable physical:default as described in nwamd(1). If you only have one interface you can use the NWAM static configuration mentioned in nwamd(1). This works in builds prior to 135 (when NWAM Phase I integrated), for later builds, you can use nwamcfg or the graphical nwam-manager. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Jumping ship.. what of the data
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > I don't mean the hardware part, although I no doubt will need advice > right through that part too, but here I'm asking about maintaining the > data on 3 mirrored pools. > > I have: rpool @ 2 WD 500GB (old fashioned IDE) > pool2 @ 2 WD 500GB sata > pool3 @ 2 WD 750GB sata > > A total of something like 1.7 tb maybe 35% full of data > > I'm a bit worried about whether with modern hardware the IDE drives > will even have a hookup. If it does, can I just hook the two rpool > discs up to two of them and expect it to boot OK? ATA->SATA adapter hardware is < $5 US shipped. (All of the ones I've seen are actually bidirectional and do SATA->ATA as well). > > I expect to make sure I have a goodly number of sata connections even > if it means extra cards, but again, can just hook the other mirrored > discs up and expect them to just work. > > Not likely is my guess, so what about some kind of brief outline to > use for a plan of attack? > > Would I expect to need to reinstall for starters? Depends on what your current problems are, of course. > > --- - ---=--- - > > Another whole approach might be to host the Opensolaris OS on new > powerful hardware setup running windows 7. > > This would be because I've become something of a semi-professional > video and graphics editor since retirement... its starting to be a lot > of what I do. > > All my tools rely on windows OS... like the adobe suites or the sony > (Vegas) tools. Or you could run Windows in VirtualBox. Or both on VMware or something. > But the rub would be how to get my current data onto a VM hosted > Opensolaris OS. I don't think I could just attach the current disks > and make the VM hosted OS use them... I'm not sure, but I'd need to > move some 400-500GB of data. Yes, you should be able to just attach the disks to any regular VM. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] luupdate specific list of preserved data
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Mr. Housey wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to obtain the list of files that are "preserved" during a Solaris > Live Update using the luupdate command. I haven't found anything useful on > the web, other than a one sentence snippet from an Oracle whitepaper on how > to upgrade, which states: > > Upgrading > Upgrading a system with a later version of Oracle Solaris instead of doing a > fresh install is a popular procedure because upgrading preserves all the > effort initially spent in configuring the system. Oracle offers two ways to > upgrade: > > It's the "preserves all the effort initially spent in configuring the system" > that I need to know. Does anyone know *exactly* what is preserved and in > what manner? > > Thanks for any information you can provide. All files modified by the user are preserved. After the LU process, /var/sadm/system/data/upgrade_cleanup on the upgraded BE contains a full list of files that need to be examined. You can parse the log programmatically. The policy decision to rename the existing file and install the new file in its place, or keep the existing file and install the new file under a new name, depends on the file in question. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Fwd: [OT] Openindiana mailing list
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Albert Lee writes: > >> Harry, >> >> I tried entering your email in the subscription form, and there was no >> problem. I guess there was a typo in the address during your previous >> attempt to subscribe. If you clicked through the confirmation message, you >> should be subscribed now. > > Well thanks for the taking the time. > > I did check my address several times while at the subscription > page. But it would not be the first time I was blind to some error. > > When you mention the `confirmation message' are you referring to one from > gmane or do you mean I should have gotten something from the list > itself? There should've been one from our list software, Mailman, after you submit the form (or in that case, me "impersonating" you), with the instructions to accept the subscription. If the form is working and you're still not receiving any mail, we can look into it, although chances are it's not a problem we can solve on our end. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Fwd: [OT] Openindiana mailing list
Harry, I tried entering your email in the subscription form, and there was no problem. I guess there was a typo in the address during your previous attempt to subscribe. If you clicked through the confirmation message, you should be subscribed now. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] pkg info vs pkginfo -il
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Lincoln Yeoh wrote: > Hi, > > For OpenSolaris and Solaris which programs should I be using to get a list of > _all_ (within reason of course) software packages installed, the versions and > if possible the date installed? > > For Solaris it seems to be pkginfo, but I'm not clear on how it works for > OpenSolaris. > > For example on OpenSolaris: > pkginfo -il > > gives me: > > PKGINST: FSWxorg-fonts-core > NAME: X.Org Foundation X11 core fonts > CATEGORY: system > ARCH: all > VERSION: 6.9.0.5.11.11000,REV=0.2009.03.11 > VENDOR: Sun Microsystems, Inc. > DESC: X Window System font files based on X.Org Foundation open source > release > HOTLINE: Please contact your local service provider > STATUS: completely installed > > But: > pkg info FSWxorg-fonts-core > > Gives me: > Name: FSWxorg-fonts-core > Summary: X.Org Foundation X11 core fonts > Category: System/Fonts > State: Installed > Publisher: opensolaris.org > Version: 0.5.11 > Build Release: 5.11 > Branch: 0.111 > Packaging Date: Fri May 8 15:25:27 2009 > Size: 27.24 MB > FMRI: pkg:/fswxorg-fonts-c...@0.5.11,5.11-0.111:20090508T152527Z > > The version strings are different. > > So are these two the same packages or are they actually different packages > with the same name? > Solaris 10 and prior releases used SVR4 packages, but the native package system in OpenSolaris (and Solaris 11, and OpenIndiana) is the Image Packaging System (IPS or pkg(5)), and pkg(1) is the main command for managing packages in this system. 'pkg info' will list all installed packages. pkginfo, pkgadd, and other SVR4 packaging commands can only be used to manage SVR4 packages. The pkginfo output you're looking at is "fake" SVR4 package metadata included in the pkg(5) package, which is used to satisfy dependencies for existing SVR4 packages. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] OpenIndiana Announcement
In less than 15 minutes, Project OpenIndiana will be holding a press conference to formally announce the project and explain what it means to the future of OpenSolaris. A live stream will be available at: http://openin.org/announcement/ -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana - what comes closest to it?
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Edward Martinez wrote: > just a thought, devs with the proper skills could use opensolaris snv_134 OS, > replace the the non free packages with free packages from illumos and > strip all of opensolaris trade marks and replace them with an other name > somthing like saturn OS or somthing else if the CDDL permits this and use > that as a dev platform and they could use a page from the old CSRG from > 70s-80's invite universities and ask students sign up form Google Summer > of Code to help devlop new OS relaese and they could use illumos as a gate. There is something to this effect in progress - stay tuned for an announcement. GSoC is a great idea to pursue next year. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana - what comes closest to it?
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Stefan Mueller-Wilken wrote: > Dear all, > > now that OpenSolaris as a distribution is dead, it might be getting time to > move on. Question: which one of the distributions based on the Solaris kernel > comes closest to Indiana, i.e. contains as much as legally possible from the > 'official' Solaris world while still being open source? I mean, ZFS, zones, > Xvm/Xen, IPS, self healing, automated installation, you name it. > Most of the important features are part of the core of OpenSolaris or readily available to other distributions, the OpenSolaris distro was largely differentiated by its packaging and installation. > What I definitely do not want is the Solaris kernel under the hood of a Linux > distribution. *yuck* There's a lot more in common in the userland than you might think. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] glibc,etc now free - thanks oracle
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Edward Martinez wrote: > >> clip: >> Oracle, and on August 18, 2010, Wim Coekaerts, on behalf of Oracle America, >> gave permission for the remaining files that we knew about under the Sun RPC >> license (netkit-rusers, krb5, and glibc) to be relicensed under the 3 clause >> BSD license >> >> http://spot.livejournal.com/315383.html > > I have been told that all files have been put under the BSD license in spring > 2009. > You should read the post, which mentions: "in February 2009, Simon told the crowd at FOSDEM that Sun was going to "change the license to Sun's copyrights in the RPC code to a standard 3-clause BSD license". Unfortunately, Sun never actually made this change." -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] unable to mount volume [usb drives won't mount]
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Michael Brzustowicz wrote: > rmvolmgr and smserver are both online > however ... rmmount and rmmount -l produce no result What is the device info in 'lshal'? Look for something with storage.bus = 'usb'. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] unable to mount volume [usb drives won't mount]
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Michael Brzustowicz
wrote:
> b134
> usb sticks and usb drives won't automount or by cl
> can find devices with format -e or rmformat -l, so they're there ... just
> can't mount
> gnome gives the popup error 'unable to mount volume' and cl gives 'no block
> device' error.
> weirdthis worked perfectly up until recently. all of a sudden ... no usb
> drives can mount.
Are you testing with 'rmmount' and 'rmmount -l'? Are the rmvolmgr and
rpc/smserver services running ('svcs -xv rmvolmgr; svcs -xv
smserver')?
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Re: [osol-discuss] Install hangs at 99%
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 22:02:54 PDT, Cia Watson wrote: > I tried installing the 2009.06 livecd this morning and after it > completed the transfer process it didn't complete the installation but > then it crashed when I tried to view the install log. > > I did some more looking around, and I'm now booted to the dev-134 iso > cd, and this one at least got me online from the start (typing now > from the livecd). I checked the device driver utility and it shows > driver problems: 0. But when I tried to install just a bit ago, it got > as far as 'complete transfer process' 99% and it sat there for 10-15 > minutes when I opened a terminal and looked at top and it showed > install-gui was asleep. So, how do I make it finish when it's so close > to being complete? > > In case it matters, I'm installing to the 3rd partition, with Fedora > 13 and a swap partition in the 1st 2 spots. I didn't set the sda3 > partition as bootable, I figured the installer would do that, and what > I read on the install instructions didn't specify that it had to be > flagged as bootable. I do have the info. to add Fedora into the grub > if or when it completes an install. Thanks! The problem with 2009.06 is most likely http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6670311 (see also the description at http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6713318 ) because you have a Linux swap partition preceding an inactive Solaris partition. Since the bug is marked as fixed, I'm not sure what is causing the installer in b134 to hang; can you run: # ptree `pgrep gui-install` Also try marking the partition just in case. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] was there a driver for Creative Labs SB X-Fi pci1102, 31 ?
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 19:49:26 -0400 (EDT), Dennis Clarke wrote: > The SDDT ( Sun Device Driver Utility ) says that I have one of these : > > node name: pci1102,31 > Vendor: Creative Labs > Device: SB X-Fi > Sub-Vendor: Creative Labs > binding name: pci1102,31 > devfs path: /p...@0,0/pci10de,5...@9/pci1102,31 > pci path: 1,7,0 > compatible name: > (pci1102,5.1102.31.0)(pci1102,5.1102.31)(pci1102,31)(pci1102,5.0)(pci1102,5)(pciclass,040100)(pciclass,0401) > driver name:unknown > assigned-addresses: 81013810 > reg:13800 > compatible: pci1102,5.1102.31.0 > model: Audio device > power-consumption: 1 > devsel-speed: 1 > interrupts: 1 > max-latency:5 > min-grant: 4 > subsystem-vendor-id:1102 > subsystem-id: 31 > unit-address: 7 > class-code: 40100 > revision-id:0 > vendor-id: 1102 > device-id: 5 > > I was certain that I had neatly functional sound on my Sun Ultra 20 but > perhaps I'm mistaken. Is there some driver or software solution out there > or do I need to remove this card ? I believe the Creative SB X-Fi is solely supported by binary-only drivers (for Linux). There are other models under the "X-Fi" brand that have free drivers. SB Live! or Audigy cards shouldn't be hard to find and audioemu10k and audiols support the majority of them. You can even use $3 USB audio dongles like this one: http://www2.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.22475 Moving this to opensound-discuss, -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is Ma rch 6, 2010?
On Mon, 31 May 2010 12:53:58 +0200, Xavier Beaudouin wrote: > Hi ! > > Le 30 mai 2010 à 01:59, bsd a écrit : > >> If there is active development of OpenSolaris, why does the dev >> repository catalog have a last update of March 6, 2010? >> >> I'm having trouble with building VirtualBox on FreeBSD, so I wanted to >> install build 129, then update to the lastest dev build. However, if the >> latest dev build is from March and is the iso image on genunix, then I >> won't bother, because it didn't work then, so it won't work now. >> >> I expected the dev build to be around 138 right now, but wouldn't the >> catalog be updated on the repository? > > > The most frustrating thing is that snv_14x is somewhere out, but > "dev" repo, is in fact a freezed repo and it seems that OpenSolaris is > getting more Closed or Freezed Solaris since Sun is named Oracle... > As stated before, the dev repository was frozen before previous releases, well before the Oracle acquisition. > I feel like lots of people very frustrated the "now news" about that. > > Even if snv_134 is a quite stable... I daring to test new build... > You're free to build the newer releases. While Oracle hasn't handled communications very well, complaining on the list is not going to help the engineers finish the next release any sooner. > Xavier > > -- > Xavier Beaudouin - x...@soprive.net - http://www.soprive.net/ > So Privé - Le premier acteur dédié au cloud computing en France > GPG Fingerprints : A6B2 D563 F93B A3AF C08A CBAC 6BC6 79EB DCC9 9867 > -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Problem: Slow ssh login to server
On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:22:39 PDT, lance tan wrote: > I am using DNS. My DNS server is my Wireless Router, actually it is just a > proxy, it forwards DNS messages to ISP's DNS server. When I login to osol > from another host in the LAN, obviously, the DNS server couldn't reverse > resolve the IP inside the LAN. But there is no way to disable DNS reverse > lookup by SunSSH. If you don't have DNS locally, the addresses should be in /etc/hosts. However, the nameserver should return an NXDOMAIN immediately for the reverse mappings of reserved addresses, so it normally should not cause a delay. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris or Solaris VPN solutions
On Tue, 11 May 2010 23:55:09 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On 11 May 2010, at 18:46, Francois Laagel wrote: > >> There's also vpnc (http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/vpnc/) I haven't >> tried it >> but it seems that development/maintenance of that project stopped >> several years ago. > > It works just fine any time I've used it, as an alternative to Cisco's VPN > 3000 client. > > Cheeri, > Calum. I created SFEvpnc a while ago which includes some minor improvements, I imagine it should still work. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] This is how Oracl e treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene?
On Mon, 10 May 2010 08:08:45 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Rob McMahon wrote: >> On 10/05/2010 14:15, Dave Johnson wrote: >>> Here is the evidence: >>> >> Note the date on this one. Wasn't this before the Oracle takeover ? >>> Date: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:01 PM > > Yes - the plan to modernize /usr/bin and eventually get rid of the need > to have /usr/gnu/bin first in the $PATH to provide a modern experience > has been around since far before the Oracle acquisition - dating back to > the start of Project Indiana pretty much. > > BTW, if it was true that every /usr/bin utility was going to be replaced > by a GNU one, would there have been a half dozen bug fixes to the Solaris > version of tar over the past couple of months? "Dave Johnson" has demonstrated that he has a huge axe to grind; his previous post, also spammed to multiple lists, was entitled "Oracle forces Opera.com out of Solaris", and of dubious veracity: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=128617 -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris
On Mon, 03 May 2010 18:36:29 PDT, bsd wrote: > I'll wait for the hate messages after I post this. > > I personally don't get the Solaris/OpenSolaris distributions. Sure, I > understand when Sun said that OpenSolaris was open source (although most of > it is released under binary license agreements), and that OpenSolaris is > "supposed" to be the RHEL/Fedora model for Solaris 10 development. > > However, I personally see OpenSolaris as a marketing gimmick. For one, > see open binary licenses in place of source code. Two, what is even the > need for a development model like RHEL/Fedora? OpenBSD and FreeBSD don't > offer a OpenBSD-Open or FreeBSD-Open. They simply have current, stable, > and release. It would have been much simpler, in my opinion, to have a > Solaris 10-release, Solaris 10-stable, and Solaris 10-current. > > Sun released Solaris 10 for free so there wasn't any reason they couldn't > have followed the current, stable, release model. Instead they opted for a > marketing gimmick which is not going as planned. 1) The vast majority of the OpenSolaris distribution is free software. The "OpenSolaris Binary License" you see when downloading the distro covers the non-free portions listed here: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/no_source - Sun was unable to relicence these as they were not the sole copyright holder. 2) Solaris 10 is not and has never been capital-F free. Solaris was not free-as-in-beer until Solaris 9, and Oracle has reversed this for Solaris 10. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox won't start
On Sat, 01 May 2010 12:48:00 PDT, Graham Chiu wrote: > There's no core dump ... nothing. > > I did a new installation, and FF worked. > I then did an upgrade and now it doesn't. > > Is there any other solution apart from installing Opera which I have now > done? What's the output when you run 'firefox' or '/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin' from a terminal? -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox won't start
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:40:14 +0800, Ginn Chen wrote: > If you got a core dump, please send me the "pstack core" result. > > Thanks, > > Ginn > The post was from a spam bot that repeats other users' messages with ad links tacked on. Also seen on opensolaris-arc. =\ -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Opera drops browser support for Solaris
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:56:39 PDT, Anon Y Mous wrote: > We need to protest this loudly as a community because Opera is the only > web browser that makes it easy to browse the web from inside a Solaris zone > (for more secure web browsing). If you don't believe me just create a zone, > download the Opera SVR4 package, "pkgadd -d" it inside the zone, then ssh > -X into the zone and check what IP address you are browsing from. I would > imagine that any exploits run against the Opera browser would run in the > zone's chrooted environment. That doesn't really make sense, from a technical perspective. Any web browser works inside a zone. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Problem: Slow ssh login to server
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:41:33 PDT, Robin Axelsson wrote: >> the workaround doesn't have to be to have a reverse mapping for >> the client IP address but to set it up so that you get an immediate >> response from the system that there is not such reverse, without a >> delay. > > > And I presume that this is what is done when adding the IP-address and > name in the /etc/inet/hosts and /etc/inet/ipnodes files (I assume that the > entries "ipnodes: files dns" and "hosts: files dns" are present in > /etc/nsswitch.conf file). However, this is not optimal over a local network > using DHCP negotiation. > > So, the other way you suggested would be to get rid of the timeout. I > found out that nslookup is actually a wrapper for dig and that the > configuration for name resolution could be found in the /etc/resolve.conf. > So I guess at least 5 seconds would be reasonable to wait for the DNS to > respond so my bet is that the line: > > options timeout:5 > > would get rid of the excess time spent on waiting during the reverse > lookup being done during ssh negotiation. > > Thanks again for your responses! It feels good to know that this is > actually an issue that is being worked on and not just a "noob" issue. The delay indicates a problem with your network's DNS configuration; 5 seconds much exceeds the typical range in milliseconds for a response. As I mentioned, name-service-cache (nscd) will help after the initial lookup (if successful), but the delay is abnormal. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Problem: Slow ssh login to server
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:50:25 +1000, James Lever wrote: > On 25/04/2010, at 7:44 AM, Robin Axelsson wrote: > But for example > $ nslookup www.google.com [1] > works fine without delay, so the DNS resolution must be fine right? > > ensure you can both ping, nslookup and dig. There are two different > resolution mechanisms in play so you want to test both. > cheers,James > You should directly query the system name service switch (NSS), which is what applications use for name resolution; ping is subject to other factors. To do this: # getent hosts The NSS configuration lives in /etc/nsswitch.conf, and is also affected by whether the name-service-cache service is enabled. The preferred way to query DNS is: # host host is intended as a replacement for nslookup. Note that this is different from what applications do, so you can use it to confirm a DNS problem but it will not be useful for diagnosing other resolver issues. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris build 134a has closed
Those of us feeling left in the dark might be pleased to know that build 134a, the first candidate for the next stable release of OpenSolaris, has been tagged in Oracle's release branch (in project jargon: "snv_134a, the first respin of 134, closed earlier this week"). A packaged build should be available for internal QA soon, but even if it passes, it will be while some time before the release can be published to the external repo. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Issues with graphical boot in b134?
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:08:22 +0200, Matthias Pfützner wrote: > This has been discussed multiple times already here on this alias... ;-) > > Please check the archives, as I'm currently answering from my mobile... > > Search for "134 boot loop", that should provide enough hits, best would be > an email from John Martin... > > Matthias > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >> Von: Kyle McDonald >> An: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org >> Gesendet: 21.4.'10, 18:37 >> >> Hi, >> >> I recently installed b134 from the live CD on my Dell Lattitude D630 >> laptop. I can't remember now if the live CD used a graphical boot, but if >> it did it worked fine. The graphical boot on the installed system however >> spontaneously reboots my machine every time within 1-2 seconds of >> displaying the splash screen. >> >> I don't know if the kernel even gets loaded, and I don't beleive there >> is a panic since I go from seeing the splash image to the screen clearing >> and the Dell BIOS POST running again. >> >> I'd like to be able to use this, so I'd like to help debug it and >> provide the information needed to fix it, but I'm really at a loss to as >> to how to collect that info. Any ideas? >> >> -Kyle >> The bug was a very early panic: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6932552 I believe the branch for the next release also has the fix. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] toshiba laptops opensolaris preinstalled
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:45:01 PDT, Edward Martinez wrote: > I was wondering if i would be voiding the laptop warranty by erasing > windows and installing opensolaris either on a m10 or a portege ? > > Warranties for general-purpose computer hardware that dictate what software you can install are unheard of! It would be a sad day for our rights if they come to pass. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] snv_134 panics
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 06:33:39 PDT, Yariv Graf wrote: > Hi Cyril, > /var/crash/opensolaris isn't created. > I assume it will be created in the next crash, right? > > > Thanks You'll have to create the directory manually, then running savecore with no arguments will extract the current crash dump and you can follow the rest of the directions. These mdb commands should show basic information about the crash: ::status $
Re: [osol-discuss] When we install opensolaris 2009.6, does it layout a zfs file system?
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 03:01:48 +0430, Sarah kho wrote: > hi,I am wondering what is the file system that opensolaris 2009.6 creates > for its installation, is it zfs or ufs? > thank The package system in 2009.06 relies on ZFS features like snapshots and clones. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any idea of how to deal with osol133 trying to finish part2 of the boot
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 00:43:05 PDT, john kroll wrote: > My boot hang could be unrelated since it is a 2009.06 install been trying > to get repo release installed local now boot hangs. Pressing any key shows > console last entries: > pseudo-device:pool0 > pool0 is /pseudo/p...@0 > pseudo-device:lx_systrace0 > lx_systrace0 is /pseudo/lx_systr...@0 > dump on /dev/zvol/dsk/rpool/dump size 2047 MB > > then it give a text login Nothing is "hanging", but GDM or the X server failed to start. The output of svcs -xv or the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log should explain why. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Probably stupid question, but: OpenSolaris on Atom N450 with 2GB ram
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:57:43 +0200, Svein Skogen wrote: > I'm considering getting a cute little netbook for vacation use > (something smaller than my W500), and can get a real good deal on an > Ideapad S10-3, which is an Atom N450 with 2GB ram. > > How (un?)well will OpenSolaris run on this hardware? > > //Svein Should work great. I am quite happy with an Atom N270 with 1.5G RAM as my primary system. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any idea of how to deal with osol133 trying to finish part2 of the boot
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:55:46 +1200, Ian Collins wrote: > On 04/16/10 09:48 PM, Henry Pepper wrote: >> Hi >> >> I'm having a problem with my OSOL 133, it doesn't get beyond the >> progress/scan bar. >> There is a lot of network activity and nothing else. >> >> I've seen the problem a few time before on previous versions, usually >> disabling the network or doing a power cut and boot up made the >> problem go away. >> >> > Edit your /rpool/boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the ",console=graphics" > from the end of the kernel$ line. > > That will get rid of the silly progress bar and let you see where things > hang. Actually, pressing any key will show the console, which is just hidden by default. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Fwd: [pkg-discuss] [REVIEW] backport-2009.06 fix for 11833
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:13:32 +0300, Martin Bochnig wrote: > Hello, I decided to forward this message, as most people seem to > ignore the coding related lists. > Maybe the subject gives a first clue or indicator, what Oracle plans > for the future: Maybe the name 2009.06 stays the current release for a > few more weeks. Whatever. It does not matter, because this is only > Oracle''s commercial distro. They do work. They give us all src > updates. EXCELLENT!!! > > [...] Martin, was cross-posting this to ogb-discuss necessary? I hardly think anyone involved with the OGB needs to be told about the situation. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [laptop-discuss] So when are we gon na fork this sucker?
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:39:21 +0200, Jennifer Pioch wrote: > 2010/4/14 "C. Bergström" : >> Jennifer Pioch wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Chad Welsh wrote: >>> Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this project to save it from the hands of [b]"HOracle"[/b] the multi-headed, voracious, open source devouring monster. So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to protect what has been done so far? >>> >>> A full fork can only be made if the internationalisation parts of libc >>> are released as open source. Either we have to call the TOG (The Open >>> Group) for source license, wait that Roland Mainz releases his version >>> or find a suitable substitute. >>> And then forking the hell outta here. >>> >> >> Umm.. >> >> #1 Roland is only handling the cli bits (Which with his help I replaced a >> long time ago in osunix) > > No, Roland has an own dropin replacement for libc_i18n.a using the > FreeBSD and AST sources as base for his work. > > Jenny That's great news! Do you happen to know what the release of this work (incomplete or otherwise) is blocking on? (N.B., I am only interested in emancipation). -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:41:19 +0300, Martin Bochnig wrote: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Pickett > wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Derek Cicero >> wrote: >>> FYI - Oracle is no longer offering a free OpenSolaris CD shipping >>> program at >>> this time. As a result, we have removed all links and icons from the >>> opensolaris.org site. If you would like to download OpenSolaris, please >>> visit the Downloads page at >>> http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/downloads. >> >> I saw that one coming. >> >> Next on this channel: Source code access on a paid subscription level >> and you have to pay $$$ per incident if you want to contribute to ON >>>;-( >> >> Chris > > > > Chris, which Linuex distro offers such a program, where they ship CD's > all over the planet, FOR free [for YOU]? > > You have a link? To be fair, http://www.oracle.com/webapps/dialogue/dlgpage.jsp?p_ext=Y&p_dlg_id=5659298&src=5634329&Act=44 and https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ ... > > If the original message would have been "download section is now > restricted access to buyers only", then I would be more on your logic. > I agree with that, but I think both of you are overreacting. ;) Yes, it outright *sucks* for adoption and awareness that the free CD program has ended, but as it was through Sun's online stores it may just be a side effect of the reorganisation of those stores that has affected the purchasing other Sun products. For reference, the not-free Solaris 10, Studio, and VirtualBox media kits are currently shipping from globalspecials.sun.com which looks like it's a remnant that's yet to be properly Oracle-ised. Given Oracle does have free media kits for some its other software, the program may re-emerge under whatever division is responsible for the other media kits. -Albert ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
