Re: [osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software
So in your setup, bacula is a precompiled pkg available to `pkg install bacula' then? For internally built packages we put our own prefix on the package name, but yes. -Sean ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software
Now comes the hard part of learning to use.. Bacula... as I recall from a go around with it about 2-3 yrs ago... it was quite a difficult and complex tool. It is a powerful tool, so there is definitely a level of complexity to the configuration. Thankfully, the documentation is excellent, and examples abound. I would strongly recommend that before you start tackling the configuration that you first write down your backup strategy. I think one of the things that gets people in trouble is that they try to develop their backup strategy at the same time as they try to get the configs ironed out. I think there has been quite a bit of progress with the clients for install on windows machines... and no doubt in every other way too. The windows client has been good for us. It can be silently installed, and leverages Shadow Volumes for the backups, which is extremely handy. -Sean ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software
For simple to use and multi-platform with decent features for home users, CrashPlan. I'm running it on my Opensolaris boxes as a server and for the various client machines. Windows, OSX, Linux, and OpenSolaris are supported platforms. I'm just running the free version with just my OpenSolaris boxes as the backup hosts. One of them is built from leftover parts using the drives from my old Linux RAID and a couple extras I stopped using when I moved all the data to the new ZFS array. It's a secondary, soon to be offsite, backup machine. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: The windows client has been good for us. It can be silently installed, and leverages Shadow Volumes for the backups, which is extremely handy. Is that `leveraging' all done through bacula, or are some steps needed from the windows platform as well? Yes, it's all handled by the client. There isn't any additional configuration that needs to be done. -Sean ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software
I know about bacula... and of course rsync can be used that way, but so easily with windows hosts. We are using rsync here to back up our NAS (OSOL) and as well files from windows hosts - to a second OSOL server. We don't undertake to backup the open system files from the windows machines, however - only documents. rsync is running in daemon/service(cygwin) mode on all targets and the backup server. We just ported the configuration from the previous machines which ran Samba from devil-linux. Tonmaus -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software
Erik Trimble erik.trim...@sun.com writes: [...] Bacula and Amanda are the two big OpenSource backup utilities, both [...] Lots of good input there... thanks ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software
Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com writes: [...] Bacula and Amanda are the two big OpenSource backup utilities, both of which work quite nicely with both UNIX and Windows clients. Both have a commercial version available (including support) for a reasonable fee. Neither are currently available from the Sun/Oracle master OpenSolaris repositories (either main or dev). Both are available through Blastwave.org as IPS packages, however. If it works. It appears to have down for a while. I was able to compile it successfully after messing around with ./configure flags to get it to find mysql.h. So should have a working build now Now comes the hard part of learning to use.. Bacula... as I recall from a go around with it about 2-3 yrs ago... it was quite a difficult and complex tool. I think there has been quite a bit of progress with the clients for install on windows machines... and no doubt in every other way too. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software
I know lots of folks use an opensolaris host as a NAS. I wondered what software people use make the osol host a central backup server. Looking thru the many packages shown by pkg manager... I didn't notice pkgs that appear to be devoted to backup across a network. Are there no native tools for that sort of thing? If not, what are people compiling on the osol servers to manage backups across a network? I know about bacula... and of course rsync can be used that way, but so easily with windows hosts. I'm wondering what is out there for osol that can work as a network backup central application. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I know about bacula... and of course rsync can be used that way, but so easily with windows hosts. I'm wondering what is out there for osol that can work as a network backup central application. Even though you already know about bacula, that is exactly what we found to work well with opensolaris. We did roll our own IPS package, and distribute it via an internal IPS repository. -Sean ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software
Sean Johnson s...@ttys0.net writes: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I know about bacula... and of course rsync can be used that way, but ^ so easily with windows hosts. Type correction: should say `not' at the carot above not' I'm wondering what is out there for osol that can work as a network backup central application. Even though you already know about bacula, that is exactly what we found to work well with opensolaris. We did roll our own IPS package, and distribute it via an internal IPS repository. Thanks for the input... good to know. So in your setup, bacula is a precompiled pkg available to `pkg install bacula' then? Seems like, since osol is often used as a backup server, that there would be a software pkg available to `pkg' cmd, with a default install. But of course I imagine the devs have there hands full with more important things most of the time. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software
Harry Putnam wrote: Sean Johnson s...@ttys0.net writes: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I know about bacula... and of course rsync can be used that way, but ^ so easily with windows hosts. Type correction: should say `not' at the carot above not' I'm wondering what is out there for osol that can work as a network backup central application. Even though you already know about bacula, that is exactly what we found to work well with opensolaris. We did roll our own IPS package, and distribute it via an internal IPS repository. Thanks for the input... good to know. So in your setup, bacula is a precompiled pkg available to `pkg install bacula' then? Seems like, since osol is often used as a backup server, that there would be a software pkg available to `pkg' cmd, with a default install. But of course I imagine the devs have there hands full with more important things most of the time. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Bacula and Amanda are the two big OpenSource backup utilities, both of which work quite nicely with both UNIX and Windows clients. Both have a commercial version available (including support) for a reasonable fee. Neither are currently available from the Sun/Oracle master OpenSolaris repositories (either main or dev). Both are available through Blastwave.org as IPS packages, however. Arkiea Software's Network Backup is also qualified to run OpenSolaris as both a client and server, and it supports quite a bit of interesting functionality. It's commercial software, and a bit pricer than Bacula/Amanda. EMC's NetWorker product is one of the oldest and most-widely used Enterprise solution, and it's featureset shows. HOWEVER, it is /NOT/ currently supported under OpenSolaris (I've gone round-and-round about this). The Solaris 10 client has issues, and consequently, it's not really usable, and the server product won't run. I'm sure there are others out there which I've missed. Frankly, though, you /don't/ want to use something like rsync scripts if you have more than a couple of clients. Get something with a nice master console and indexing/searching capability - it is so worth the time to learn, and is so much simpler to deal with restores when you need them (when you're not in the frame of mind to poke around looking for something amongst your script outputs...) -- Erik Trimble Java System Support Mailstop: usca22-123 Phone: x17195 Santa Clara, CA ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About zfs host as NAS.. what software
On 03/11/10 02:59 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: Harry Putnam wrote: Sean Johnson s...@ttys0.net writes: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I know about bacula... and of course rsync can be used that way, but ^ so easily with windows hosts. Type correction: should say `not' at the carot above not' I'm wondering what is out there for osol that can work as a network backup central application. Even though you already know about bacula, that is exactly what we found to work well with opensolaris. We did roll our own IPS package, and distribute it via an internal IPS repository. Thanks for the input... good to know. So in your setup, bacula is a precompiled pkg available to `pkg install bacula' then? Seems like, since osol is often used as a backup server, that there would be a software pkg available to `pkg' cmd, with a default install. But of course I imagine the devs have there hands full with more important things most of the time. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Bacula and Amanda are the two big OpenSource backup utilities, both of which work quite nicely with both UNIX and Windows clients. Both have a commercial version available (including support) for a reasonable fee. Neither are currently available from the Sun/Oracle master OpenSolaris repositories (either main or dev). Both are available through Blastwave.org as IPS packages, however. If it works. It appears to have down for a while. -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
