Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill Unbreakable Linux?

2009-07-22 Thread Alex Viskovatoff
I don't think that's a parody article. As far as I can tell, the article is 
straight, and it makes sense to me. Since Oracle hasn't had much success 
grabbing market share from Red Hat, why should it put much effort into 
Unbreakable Linux? That's especially the case now that it owns Solaris: other 
vendors can adopt improvements Oracle makes to Unbreakable Linux, but not those 
it makes to Solaris.

According to 
[url=http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10173701-16.html]this[/url], Unbreakable 
Linux isn't much of a threat to Red Hat.

Not that I'm much of a fan of Red Hat. I switched from Fedora to openSUSE on my 
laptop at about the same time I switched to OpenSolaris on my main computer.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill Unbreakable Linux?

2009-07-23 Thread Che Kristo
I see no reason why Oracle can't continue to support both. In reality
Unbreakable is just RHL with a different badge, Oracle comparatively doesnt
spend that much on having it there and if it is bringing in cash there is no
reason to stop supporting it.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Alex Viskovatoff wrote:

> I don't think that's a parody article. As far as I can tell, the article is
> straight, and it makes sense to me. Since Oracle hasn't had much success
> grabbing market share from Red Hat, why should it put much effort into
> Unbreakable Linux? That's especially the case now that it owns Solaris:
> other vendors can adopt improvements Oracle makes to Unbreakable Linux, but
> not those it makes to Solaris.
>
> According to [url=
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10173701-16.html]this[/url],
> Unbreakable Linux isn't much of a threat to Red Hat.
>
> Not that I'm much of a fan of Red Hat. I switched from Fedora to openSUSE
> on my laptop at about the same time I switched to OpenSolaris on my main
> computer.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill Unbreakable Linux?

2009-07-23 Thread Anon Y Mous
> I don't think that's a parody article. As far as I can tell, the article is 
> straight, 
> and it makes sense to me.

@Herzen

Well, if you scroll down and read the comments at the bottom of the article:
 
http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/07/is-oracle-getting-ready-to-kil.html#comments

You'll see a comment on July 16th where the author of the article, Chris 
Joesephes says:

"Oracle customers migrated to Linux, and then complained to Oracle because 
Linux vendors could not offer the support they were used to from other 
operating systems.

Yes, this article is pure speculation, but I'm a little surprised that nobody 
else noticed that it's also a parody.

http://blogs.computerworld.com/is_oracle_getting_ready_to_kill_opensolaris "

So yeah, Chris Josephes motive in writing it was to take a dig at SJVN. 
However, I still think that Ted Dziuba's profanity laced writeups on Sun and 
Oracle related things are the most offensive yet most entertaining of them all 
(feel free not to open these links if you are easily offended):

http://teddziuba.com/2008/05/javafx-native-look-and-feel.html

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/27/dziuba_sunacle/page2.html

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/28/sun_dziuba_tm/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/23/dziuba_javafx_mobile/

It would be pretty funny if we could somehow stage a televised debate between 
SJVN and Ben Rockwood with Dziuba as the moderator.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill Unbreakable Linux?

2009-07-24 Thread Alex Viskovatoff
> You'll see a comment on July 16th where the author of the article, Chris 
> Joesephes says:

@system5:

OK, so the author calls it a parody. I read that comment, but I didn't notice 
that it was by the author himself.

Still, I wouldn't call it a parody. A parody typically exaggerates something, 
taking it in the same direction, but to absurd results. This article had 
nothing absurd in it, so I'd call it a "mocking rebuttal" instead. But this is 
just arguing over semantics.

Thanks for the other links.
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