Re: [osol-discuss] What CPU run 64 bit kernel OpenSolaris
On 04/07/07, Andrew Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know you may think it is a silly question, but I am unable to find the > answer. > OK! We know Sun SPARC chips all run 64 bit OpenSolaris, but which AMD and > Intel cpu can run it as well: > > - AMD Opteron run 64bit kernel > - Intel Xeon run 64bit kernel Yes. > but what about: > > - AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core > - AMD Athlon™ 64 > - intel Pentium 4 > - intel Core 2 Due Yes, all those should work. I have personally used the Athlon64 and the Core 2 Duo. Any processor that uses Intel's EM64T or AMD's AMD64 instruction set should work. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. " --Donald Knuth ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What CPU run 64 bit kernel OpenSolaris
Yo uso el intel Core 2 Due en una placa Intel D975XBXZ y corre bien el opensolaris ahi, con un disco sata de 200 GB. saludos Miguel 2007/7/4, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 04/07/07, Andrew Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know you may think it is a silly question, but I am unable to find the answer. > OK! We know Sun SPARC chips all run 64 bit OpenSolaris, but which AMD and Intel cpu can run it as well: > > - AMD Opteron run 64bit kernel > - Intel Xeon run 64bit kernel Yes. > but what about: > > - AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core > - AMD Athlon™ 64 > - intel Pentium 4 > - intel Core 2 Due Yes, all those should work. I have personally used the Athlon64 and the Core 2 Duo. Any processor that uses Intel's EM64T or AMD's AMD64 instruction set should work. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. " --Donald Knuth ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- La actitud del hacker: Los hackers resuelven problemas y construyen cosas, y creen en la libertad y la ayuda voluntaria mutua. Para ser aceptado como hacker, deberás comportarte como si tuvieras esta actitud en tu interior. Y para comportarte como si tuvieras esta actitud, deberás creerte de verdad dicha actitud. Miguel C. Linux User Registered # 396372 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What CPU run 64 bit kernel OpenSolaris
Shawn Walker wrote: > On 04/07/07, Andrew Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I know you may think it is a silly question, but I am unable to find the >> answer. >> OK! We know Sun SPARC chips all run 64 bit OpenSolaris, but which AMD and >> Intel cpu can run it as well: >> >> - AMD Opteron run 64bit kernel >> - Intel Xeon run 64bit kernel > > Yes. > >> but what about: >> >> - AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core >> - AMD Athlon™ 64 >> - intel Pentium 4 >> - intel Core 2 Due > > Yes, all those should work. I have personally used the Athlon64 and > the Core 2 Duo. > > Any processor that uses Intel's EM64T or AMD's AMD64 instruction set > should work. > I don't believe all Pentium 4's were 64-bit... but I may be wrong. -- stephen lau // [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What CPU run 64 bit kernel OpenSolaris
On 04/07/07, Stephen Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shawn Walker wrote: > > On 04/07/07, Andrew Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I know you may think it is a silly question, but I am unable to find the > >> answer. > >> OK! We know Sun SPARC chips all run 64 bit OpenSolaris, but which AMD and > >> Intel cpu can run it as well: > >> > >> - AMD Opteron run 64bit kernel > >> - Intel Xeon run 64bit kernel > > > > Yes. > > > >> but what about: > >> > >> - AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core > >> - AMD Athlon™ 64 > >> - intel Pentium 4 > >> - intel Core 2 Due > > > > Yes, all those should work. I have personally used the Athlon64 and > > the Core 2 Duo. > > > > Any processor that uses Intel's EM64T or AMD's AMD64 instruction set > > should work. > > > > I don't believe all Pentium 4's were 64-bit... but I may be wrong. Correct: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Em64t -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. " --Donald Knuth ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What CPU run 64 bit kernel OpenSolaris
> I know you may think it is a silly question, but I am > unable to find the answer. > OK! We know Sun SPARC chips all run 64 bit > OpenSolaris, but which AMD and Intel cpu can run it > as well: > > - AMD Opteron run 64bit kernel > - Intel Xeon run 64bit kernel > > but what about: > > - AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core Dual core, 64-bit. > - AMD Athlon™ 64 64-bit. > - intel Pentium 4 Some are 32-bit, some are 64-bit. > - intel Core 2 Due You mean "Core 2 duo"? Not sure, but should be 64-bit, since it's a newer generation processor. `isainfo -vk` will tell you whether you're running 32- or 64-bit. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What CPU run 64 bit kernel OpenSolaris
Hi, On 07/04/07 21:56, Andrew Watkins wrote: > I know you may think it is a silly question, but I am unable to find the > answer. > OK! We know Sun SPARC chips all run 64 bit OpenSolaris, but which AMD and > Intel cpu can run it as well: The OpenSolaris source only supports a 64-bit sparc kernel - support for running a 32-bit kernel on sparc was ripped out a while back. You can, of course, still run 32-bit and 64-bit apps on top of the 64-bit kernel. > - AMD Opteron run 64bit kernel Can boot either 32-bit or 64-bit kernel > - Intel Xeon run 64bit kernel It depends on which Xeon model you have in mind ... see below. > > but what about: > > - AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core > - AMD Athlon™ 64 Yes, can boot 64-bit. The Opteron and Athlon 64 and Turion 64 families are all built around the same processor architecture - they're realy just packaging and additional frills for the particular market segment they're aimed at (server and high-end desktop for Opteron; home desktop for Athlon 64; mobile for Turion 64). > - intel Pentium 4 Newer Pentium 4 generations; not the older ones. > - intel Core 2 Due Yes. Download the "Intel 64 and IA-32 Architectures Software Developer's Manual" volume 1, order number 253665-023US of May 2007 from the intel website. Chapter 1 has section 1.1 which discusses the Intel 64 and IA-32 processors described by the manual; those that support the "Intel 64" architecture can run OpenSolaris distributions both 32- and 64-bit. The naming is not at all confusing, but section 1.1 gives a nice summary of which recent processors are IA-32 and which support Intel 64. Gavin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What CPU run 64 bit kernel OpenSolaris
Stephen Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't believe all Pentium 4's were 64-bit... but I may be wrong. Not all were 64 bit and not all were speudo dual core. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What CPU run 64 bit kernel OpenSolaris
Thanks for all the information, but the problem I am having - well not a problem - just a general question. What I have done is boot a Intel Core 2 (running Windows) off the latest OpenSolaris B67 x86 and entered the Singe User Shell straight away. # isainfo -v 32-bit i386 applications Now is this telling me the the computer can not run 64bit or is just because the install kernel is 32bit it want report if it can run 64bit. I have also used the Device Detection Tool, but that will report there are 32&64 bit drivers are available, but does not tell me that OpenSolaris will run in 64bit mode. I guess by what people have said is that if the CPU supports EM64T or AMD64 then of course it will run 64bit! Thanks This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What CPU run 64 bit kernel OpenSolaris
Andrew Watkins stated: < Thanks for all the information, but the problem I am having - well not a problem - just a general question. < < What I have done is boot a Intel Core 2 (running Windows) off the latest OpenSolaris B67 x86 and entered the Singe User Shell straight away. Did you enter via the Failsafe grub menu or off a CD/DV/network ? In these cases you'll get the 32bit kernel. It won't be until you install Solaris that you'll get the 64bit kernel. < < # isainfo -v < 32-bit i386 applications what does psrinfo -vp say ? Regards, Sean. . < < Now is this telling me the the computer can not run 64bit or is just because the install kernel is 32bit it want report if it can run 64bit. < < I have also used the Device Detection Tool, but that will report there are 32&64 bit drivers are available, but does not tell me that OpenSolaris will run in 64bit mode. < < I guess by what people have said is that if the CPU supports EM64T or AMD64 then of course it will run 64bit! < < Thanks < < < This message posted from opensolaris.org < ___ < opensolaris-discuss mailing list < opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What CPU run 64 bit kernel OpenSolaris
Hi Andrew, * Andrew Watkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Thanks for all the information, but the problem I am having - well not > a problem - just a general question. > > What I have done is boot a Intel Core 2 (running Windows) off the > latest OpenSolaris B67 x86 and entered the Singe User Shell straight > away. > > # isainfo -v > 32-bit i386 applications > > Now is this telling me the the computer can not run 64bit or is just > because the install kernel is 32bit it want report if it can run > 64bit. The install kernel is always 32bit regardless of what the machine can actually do. Once the system is installed and rebooted, the proper kernel (32 or 64) will get loaded if the system supports it. Cheers, Glenn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What CPU run 64 bit kernel OpenSolaris
prtdiag -v will show the CPU type amd other system info, see the prtdiag man page. # prtdiag -v System Configuration: BIOS Configuration: Award Software International, Inc. F5 01/30/2007 Processor Sockets Version Location Tag -- AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ Socket M2 Memory Device Sockets . . . This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What CPU run 64 bit kernel OpenSolaris
> What I have done is boot a Intel Core 2 (running > Windows) off the latest OpenSolaris B67 x86 and > entered the Singe User Shell straight away. > > # isainfo -v > 32-bit i386 applications > > Now is this telling me the the computer can not run > 64bit or is just because the install kernel is 32bit > it want report if it can run 64bit. But think about it: you booted off of the install media. And install media must support booting on both 32- and 64-bit. What is the lowest common denominator in that case? 32-bit. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What CPU run 64 bit kernel OpenSolaris
> Now is this telling me the the computer can not run > 64bit or is just because the install kernel is 32bit > it want report if it can run 64bit. optisa `isalist` will report the optimal ISA for the target ARCH it is running on. However, I doubt these commands are available on the install image. If you get back "amd64" on the i86pc platform, then your hardware is 64-bit capable. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
