RE: [!! SPAM] RE: Re[2]: Vista 64 bit

2008-01-02 Thread David Schwartz

 Hello David,

  Then why are you downloading OpenSSL? It's a library, a toolkit.
  It has no enduser application.

 Are you really sure?
 I subscribed, while at the openssl.org site for this list
 the description was given:
 openssl-users open anybody Application Development, OpenSSL Usage,
  Installation Problems, etc.

 I downloaded and installed Win32 OpenSSL v0.9.8g Light, on an
 XP computer, that would mean, I'm a user, isn't it? :-)

Not of OpenSSL, no.

 Of course, for the reasons I told, I did not subscribe to:
 openssl-dev open subscribers Discussions on development of the
 OpenSSL library.

Note that this is for development *of* *OpenSSL*. Just like the OpenSSL
users list is for users *of* *OpenSSL*.

  If you are installing some other application that asked you
  to install OpenSSL, you have to follow that other application's
  instructions.

 I did. Using Total Commander also as FTP client on XP, it told me
 to install OpenSSL first, before checking the option in the settings
 there.

Ah, so your issue is with getting Total Commander's OpenSSL support to work.
You need to install OpenSSL exactly how Total Commander wants it and not any
other way.

OpenSSL is *NOT* intended to be 'used' by people who use programs that use
it. It is intended to be used by programs and by people who make them.

  If you  had an issue, it would be with that appication or its
  OpenSSL support, not with OpenSSL.

 Not really. I got a new computer with Vista 64 bit and I didn't
 find a 64 bit version of OpenSSL. That is, what I asked here.
 And it seemed, I asked it on the right place. ;-)

How would that help you if it wasn't the version Total Commander was built
to use?

  These are not the droids you are looking for.

 Who and where else should I have asked for it?

If you want to know whether Total Commander works with a 64-bit SSL library
and how to get/make one for it, you should be asking the Total Commander
folks. (Unless you already did and got the answer that it would, in which
case what are you asking exactly?)

DS


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RE: [!! SPAM] RE: Re[2]: Vista 64 bit

2008-01-02 Thread saritha.pallapothu
I am newly looking into the openSSL code part and trying to understand.
I have a few silly doubts regarding the usage and implementation of
openSSL along with Heimdal Kerberos. Could you please let me know whom
can I contact? 

Thanks in advance,
Saritha

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Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] RE: Re[2]: Vista 64 bit

Hello David,

 Then why are you downloading OpenSSL? It's a library, a toolkit.
 It has no enduser application.

Are you really sure?
I subscribed, while at the openssl.org site for this list
the description was given:
openssl-users open anybody Application Development, OpenSSL Usage,
 Installation Problems, etc.

I downloaded and installed Win32 OpenSSL v0.9.8g Light, on an
XP computer, that would mean, I'm a user, isn't it? :-)

Of course, for the reasons I told, I did not subscribe to:
openssl-dev open subscribers Discussions on development of the
OpenSSL library.

 If you are installing some other application that asked you
 to install OpenSSL, you have to follow that other application's
 instructions.

I did. Using Total Commander also as FTP client on XP, it told me
to install OpenSSL first, before checking the option in the settings
there.

 If you  had an issue, it would be with that appication or its
 OpenSSL support, not with OpenSSL.

Not really. I got a new computer with Vista 64 bit and I didn't
find a 64 bit version of OpenSSL. That is, what I asked here.
And it seemed, I asked it on the right place. ;-)

 These are not the droids you are looking for.

Who and where else should I have asked for it?

-- 
Best regards,
 Gunivortus

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RE: [!! SPAM] RE: Re[2]: Vista 64 bit

2008-01-02 Thread David Schwartz

 I am newly looking into the openSSL code part and trying to understand.
 I have a few silly doubts regarding the usage and implementation of
 openSSL along with Heimdal Kerberos. Could you please let me know whom
 can I contact?

Ask your question in this newsgroup. It is for users of OpenSSL. It's
perfectly suitable for general question regarding whether OpenSSL is what
you want, how to use it, or where to look for answers.

Note that OpenSSL requires a surprising amount of cryprographic knowledge to
use safely. If you're looking for a tool that's designed to be secure when
used by people who are not security experts, you are likely looking for
something other than OpenSSL.

Of course, if you don't need real security, messing around with OpenSSL is a
great way to learn more about security.

DS


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Re: [!! SPAM] RE: Re[2]: Vista 64 bit

2008-01-02 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi,

 OpenSSL is *NOT* intended to be 'used' by people who use programs that use
 it. It is intended to be used by programs and by people who make them.

I'll stick my 0.01 euro cent in here and state i disagree with this
hypothesis.  whether you are a user via a 3rd party program (as almost
all users of openssl are!) or are directly using openssl as a developer
both camps and parties should be catered for - especially
as a lot of apps that use openssl really only look for the DLL
or shared library - or, if built from source, the required dev libraries
and link libraries.

either type of user may be intersted in such things as keeping an
up-to-date version for security - or ways of configuring it for
better speed, performance or security settings. 

alan
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How to have overlap time of validity periods in CRLs

2008-01-02 Thread Prabhu S
Hi,

As per article available at :
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/a4331df0-273b-41a3-95f5-8425d39543c71033.mspx?mfr=true

 The publish period of a CRL is established by the CA administrator.
However, the validity period of the CRL is extended from the publish
period to allow for Active Directory replication. By default,
Certificate Services extends the publish period by 10% (up to a
maximum of 12 hrs) to establish the validity period. So, for example,
if a CA is publishing a CRL every 24 hours, the validity period is set
to 26.4 hours.

Our application is a CA simulator. It publishes CRL for the
certificates it has signed.
-gencrl option is used to generate the CRL  every 1 hour.

But gencrl has option does not have a option to provide a grace
extension of validity period.
If -crlhours is set to '1'  and CRL is published at T0, the validity
interval extend from T0 to T0+1. But I need to have the validity form
(T0-10min + 1), 1 hour 10 min.

The client which tries to fetch the CRLs form the database in which
our CA simulator stores CRL, at times complains that the CRL start
time is ahead of its time, due to clock skew.

Any ideas, how we can have the extensions in the validity period.

Thanks,
Prabhu. S
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RE: Please Remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Please Remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: What is an OpenSSL issue (was Re[2]: Vista 64 bit)

2008-01-02 Thread David Schwartz

  OpenSSL is *NOT* intended to be 'used' by people who use
  programs that use
  it. It is intended to be used by programs and by people who make them.

 I'll stick my 0.01 euro cent in here and state i disagree with this
 hypothesis.  whether you are a user via a 3rd party program (as almost
 all users of openssl are!) or are directly using openssl as a developer
 both camps and parties should be catered for - especially
 as a lot of apps that use openssl really only look for the DLL
 or shared library - or, if built from source, the required dev libraries
 and link libraries.

However, they generally require particular versions of OpenSSL or particular
build environments. They impose their own requirements. If you can state and
explain these requirements and reduce your question to one that is actually
about OpenSSL, then I agree with you.

OpenSSL explicitly is *not* a stable library such that you can make library
upgrades without consideration application details -- other than withing the
same minor version to fix specific security issues. If a post is about a
specific known OpenSSL security issue, and the issue is how to fix that
issue within the minor version required by the application, that would be an
OpenSSL issue.

Even then, it may be dangerous to do that if the application contains its
own workaround to that same issue. Or the application may not even use the
part of OpenSSL that has the vulnerability, making the exercise pointless.
This should still, in most cases, be treated as an application issue first.
If it is handled as an OpenSSL issue, that should be by one of the
application's developers, not a mere user.

 either type of user may be intersted in such things as keeping an
 up-to-date version for security - or ways of configuring it for
 better speed, performance or security settings.

That's true. I agree, my position as stated is a bit too harsh. I disagree
about security settings though, those are application issues, not library
issues. It's dangerous to treat them as library issues.

A security issue should not be fixed without the presence of *someone* with
detailed understanding of how the application uses OpenSSL. An actual user
(in the sense of application developer) of the library needs to do this to
be sure it's done properly. Even OpenSSL experts would either have to
familiarize themselves with the application or do a lot of guessing.
Guessing in the security field is bad.

DS


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RE: Please Remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-01-02 Thread Pj
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