[opensuse-factory] RC3 factory

2006-04-29 Thread jdd
is factory updated? I see no recent package on servers
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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC3 factory

2006-04-29 Thread jdd
Andreas wrote:
 Am Samstag, den 29.04.2006, 09:12 +0200 schrieb jdd:
 is factory updated? I see no recent package on servers
 jdd
 
 jdd, see this posting from Andreas Jäger:
 http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-factory/2006-Apr/0530.html
 
yes I see, but the annouce was yesterday and we have a long
week end... so will factory synced before?

the delta is thing is really painfull, my computer was stuck
all this morning by applydeltaiso...

thanks
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.1 RC3

2006-04-29 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

Am Samstag, 29. April 2006 03:08 schrieb Daniel:
 Yes. It worked for me in pt_BR. I noticed just one translation error.
 While installing packages with the new installer, it says in the
 progress bar Installing Pacotes. Someone forgot to change
 Installing for instalando. Is it worth a bug report or where else
 can i post it?

Every bug is worth a bugreport ;-)


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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC3 factory

2006-04-29 Thread jdd
Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) wrote:
 Em Sáb, 2006-04-29 às 12:03 +0200, jdd escreveu:
 
 the delta is thing is really painfull, my computer was stuck
 all this morning by applydeltaiso...
 
 I totally agree with you...
 
 I don't know what is worse: waiting for 3G download, or waiting for the
 delta isos to be applied. :)
 
thats why all prefere a net install, and need factory :-)
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Re: [opensuse-factory] No itakian anymore?

2006-04-29 Thread Andreas Jaeger
houghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The file /suse/setup/descr/packages.it is not available anymore. Is this
 on purpose, or forgotten?

Looks like a bug - please report it in bugzilla,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC3 factory

2006-04-29 Thread Andras Mantia
On Saturday 29 April 2006 13:33, Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) wrote:
 I don't know what is worse: waiting for 3G download, or waiting for
 the delta isos to be applied. :)

It really depends. I have a relatively bad internet connection (and I 
pay per minute usage), while a fairy good computer, so applying the 
delta iso takes much less time, and even if it took more, it is much 
cheaper than downloading everything again or doing always a net 
install/upgrade.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd error

2006-04-29 Thread houghi
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:31:33PM +0200, houghi wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:07:06PM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
  Please open a bugreport.
 
 Bug 170944 Submitted

Transfered to bug 166011
There I see some info:
quote
- (once) create a GPG key for signing the modified source (or use an
  existing key)

- adapt the packages file with =Cks: SHA1 sha1sum entries of the RPMs

- add META and KEY entries to /content, see URL above

- sign /content (gpg --detach-sign -a content)
- create /content.key (the above public key used to sign /content)
(gpg --export -a -u keyid  content.key)
/quote

Is there anybody that can explain to me in babysteps on how to do that?
I have never used gpg.
So I suppose I do the following:
`gpg --gen-key`, 5, 2048, 0, y, name and email, passphrase (Or must this
be blank?), generate the key. I then have my key.

Now what?

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[opensuse-factory] /.gnupg created ?

2006-04-29 Thread Günther J. Niederwimmer
Hello,

is this the right place for the (root)  /.gnupg, it was created by installing, 
afterwards yast2 tell me, wrong key ?
  
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Re: [opensuse-factory] No itakian anymore?

2006-04-29 Thread Andreas Jaeger
houghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 02:07:14PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 houghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  The file /suse/setup/descr/packages.it is not available anymore. Is this
  on purpose, or forgotten?
 
 Looks like a bug - please report it in bugzilla,

 Bug 171044 Submitted

 And to all Italians, sorry about the misspelling in the subject.

Just looked into it - there was no packages.it file for some time, I
cannot find it on 10.0 - nor on any 10.1 Beta or RC,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] /.gnupg created ?

2006-04-29 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Günther J. Niederwimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello,

 is this the right place for the (root)  /.gnupg, it was created by 
 installing, 
 afterwards yast2 tell me, wrong key ?

/.gnupg is wrong, please file a bugreport and CC me on it,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] No itakian anymore?

2006-04-29 Thread houghi
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 04:33:36PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Just looked into it - there was no packages.it file for some time, I
 cannot find it on 10.0 - nor on any 10.1 Beta or RC,

I never noticed it, as makeSUSEdvd makes one. :-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC3 factory

2006-04-29 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
jdd escribió:

 the delta is thing is really painfull, my computer was stuck
 all this morning by applydeltaiso...
 

I totally agree with you, that's the reaosn why I tried network install,
however, that won't work. :-( and I ended in the deltaiso mess.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC3 factory

2006-04-29 Thread jdd
Cristian Rodriguez wrote:
 jdd escribió:
 
 the delta is thing is really painfull, my computer was stuck
 all this morning by applydeltaiso...

 
 I totally agree with you, that's the reaosn why I tried network install,
 however, that won't work. :-( and I ended in the deltaiso mess.

in fact my vmware net install of RC3 didn't work (stuck) and
I'm in the process of making a inst-source on an usb drvie
to spare 5 cd...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC3 factory

2006-04-29 Thread houghi
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 07:20:54PM +0200, jdd wrote:
 Cristian Rodriguez wrote:
  jdd escribió:
  
  the delta is thing is really painfull, my computer was stuck
  all this morning by applydeltaiso...
 
  
  I totally agree with you, that's the reaosn why I tried network install,
  however, that won't work. :-( and I ended in the deltaiso mess.
 
 in fact my vmware net install of RC3 didn't work (stuck) and
 I'm in the process of making a inst-source on an usb drvie
 to spare 5 cd...

Just so you know: create_package_descr does not work with RC3. makeSUSEdvd
uses that as well and therefore does not work with RC3. :-/

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC3 factory

2006-04-29 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 07:31:07PM +0200, houghi wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 07:20:54PM +0200, jdd wrote:
  Cristian Rodriguez wrote:
   jdd escribió:
   
   the delta is thing is really painfull, my computer was stuck
   all this morning by applydeltaiso...
  
   
   I totally agree with you, that's the reaosn why I tried network install,
   however, that won't work. :-( and I ended in the deltaiso mess.
  
  in fact my vmware net install of RC3 didn't work (stuck) and
  I'm in the process of making a inst-source on an usb drvie
  to spare 5 cd...
 
 Just so you know: create_package_descr does not work with RC3. makeSUSEdvd
 uses that as well and therefore does not work with RC3. :-/

Take a new create_package_descr out of the RC3 autoyast2 package.

This one generates checksum when adding a -C option.

Ciao, Marcus

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[opensuse-factory] Online update fail

2006-04-29 Thread Juan Erbes

I could'nt configure the online update, because is not defined the
version and the product, with the yast update tool I got: No products
to register
And if I execute:
/usr/lib/suseRegister/bin # ./suse_release -a
Product:
Version:
Vendor:
Dist:
Distproduct:
Distversion:
Baseproduct:
Baseversion:

How can I complete these options?
I have installed RC2

Thanks

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC3 factory

2006-04-29 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

Am Samstag, 29. April 2006 20:01 schrieb Marcus Meissner:
 On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 07:31:07PM +0200, houghi wrote:
[...]
  Just so you know: create_package_descr does not work with RC3.

 Take a new create_package_descr out of the RC3 autoyast2 package.

 This one generates checksum when adding a -C option.

I'm just playing bugzilla syncing - maybe this discussion should be 
continued at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=166011 ;-)

BTW: Why is the -C option necessary? If installation sources with 
checksums are default/required now, adding the checksum should be the 
_default_ behaviour.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC3 factory

2006-04-29 Thread houghi
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 08:40:45PM +0200, Christian Boltz wrote:
 I'm just playing bugzilla syncing - maybe this discussion should be 
 continued at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=166011 ;-)

I am trying and testing right now outside of makeSUSEdvd
The reason I ask here is because I ask stupid questions that might be more
support then problemsolving.

e.g. I do the following now:
Copy all the content from the first CD to /home/houghi/tmp/makeSUSEdvd
I then chmod +w everything
I then do a cd /home/houghi/tmp/makeSUSEdvd/suse
Next I do `create_package_descr -x setup/descr/EXTRA_PROV -l english -l \
spanish -l french -l german -l czech -l hungarian -l italian -C`
After that I cd to /home/houghi/tmp
and last but not least
`mkisofs -v -V SU100OSS.001 -r -J -l -allow-leading-dots -publisher houghi
-b makeSUSEdvd/boot/i386/loader/isolinux.bin -c
makeSUSEdvd/boot/i386/loader/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4
-boot-info-table -graft-points -o SUSE2.iso .`

That gives me an error and an unbootable iso.

If somebody can tell me where I went wrong, I would be very gratefull. As
soon as I have something that looks like feedback, I will put it in
bugzilla.

 BTW: Why is the -C option necessary? If installation sources with 
 checksums are default/required now, adding the checksum should be the 
 _default_ behaviour.

My thoughts as well.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC3 factory

2006-04-29 Thread houghi
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 09:22:43PM +0200, houghi wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 08:40:45PM +0200, Christian Boltz wrote:
  I'm just playing bugzilla syncing - maybe this discussion should be 
  continued at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=166011 ;-)
 
 I am trying and testing right now outside of makeSUSEdvd
 The reason I ask here is because I ask stupid questions that might be more
 support then problemsolving.
 
 e.g. I do the following now:
 Copy all the content from the first CD to /home/houghi/tmp/makeSUSEdvd
 I then chmod +w everything
 I then do a cd /home/houghi/tmp/makeSUSEdvd/suse
 Next I do `create_package_descr -x setup/descr/EXTRA_PROV -l english -l \
 spanish -l french -l german -l czech -l hungarian -l italian -C`
 After that I cd to /home/houghi/tmp
 and last but not least
 `mkisofs -v -V SU100OSS.001 -r -J -l -allow-leading-dots -publisher houghi
 -b makeSUSEdvd/boot/i386/loader/isolinux.bin -c
 makeSUSEdvd/boot/i386/loader/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4
 -boot-info-table -graft-points -o SUSE2.iso .`
 
 That gives me an error and an unbootable iso.

OK. I now do:
mkisofs -V SU101DVD.001 -r -J -l -allow-leading-dots -publisher ' SUSE
LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany' -b boot/i386/loader/isolinux.bin
-c boot/i386/loader/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4
-boot-info-table -graft-points -o SUSE-10.1-0-DVD.iso makeSUSEdvd/

I get a bootable ISO, but still the same error. So I get the signed
packages file and now what? I still get the `No catalog found` error.
http://en.opensuse.org/Secure_Installation_Sources is absolutely unclear
(to me) on what to do.

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[opensuse-factory] install frop hard drive not possible

2006-04-29 Thread jdd
I reopened bug #155351 because it seems similar at what I have.

I couldn't install RC3 with boot.iso (mini-iso) because when
asking for hard drive I was asked for a net card in place of
a hard drive :-(

same with mini-iso RC2, but full RCI CD1 worked (asked for
the drive) partly (could not go more than two or thre steps
more, but found the hard drive (bur there it found RC3 and
don't like it)

so I can't install RC3 this evening - too bad.

tomorrow I will burn CD's :-((

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[opensuse-factory] Factory updated on our server...

2006-04-29 Thread Andreas Jaeger

Factory is updated on our server again - and is synced out to the
mirrors.  We've seen a number of reports of about segmentation faults
in YaST with the factory tree.  There were two problems:
* bad error handling in YaST
* Wrong release in distversion in the content file

The inst-source/content file should have DISTVERSION 10.1-factory
instead of DISTVERSION 10.1-factory-beta (the extra minus was the
problem).  The second problem is fixed in the factory tree, the first
one will be fixed soon.

Therefore I advise to check that factory is updated before using the
tree before installation.

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Re: [opensuse] Giving up on Nvidia fx5500 - what other pci vid card has good drivers?

2006-04-29 Thread Clayton

I've given up on trying to make a nvidia fx5500 work with Suse 10.0,
can't even get it to complete installation using the graphics installer,
and can't get it to start X even when using fx86config to try and set up
a basic.

What other video card chipset has a good driver support with suse? There
was an ATI Radeon something there, but I recall ATI has had a reputation
for poor support. Has this improved? (My wife dropped by the shop on a
trip into town but can't remember the exact model).


Well... from long experience with SUSE and nVidia and ATI video cards,
I'll never willing use an ATI card.  They are a total nightmare.  I'd
highly recommend nVidia again despite your problems.  I've had a
5200FX working very nicely in SUSE for several years, and have
recently and very painlessly upgraded to an nVidia 6600GT.

I've also recently had an ATI9250, and while I was able to get it to
work, it never worked properly.

If you need soem help setting up your existing nVidia card, just
ask... there's loads of us on the list here that use nVidia and are
very pleased with the results... and with how easy it usualy is to set
up.

C.

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006

2006-04-29 Thread Hartmut Meyer
Hi,

On Saturday 29 April 2006 04:44, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 I'd really like to see something like a YaST module that provides a
 graphical way to work with LVM2 and evms (better that evmsgui).

What is missing in the existing (expert) partitioning dialogue of YaST2?


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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006

2006-04-29 Thread jdd
Hartmut Meyer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Saturday 29 April 2006 04:44, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 I'd really like to see something like a YaST module that provides a
 graphical way to work with LVM2 and evms (better that evmsgui).
 
 What is missing in the existing (expert) partitioning dialogue of YaST2?

a lot of things :-)

the expert dialogue is to be rethought. I erased a drive
with it (happily vmware unimportant one).

not that it lacks something but it's not always clear what
it does.

more on this if necessary
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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006

2006-04-29 Thread Alexey Eremenko

For that matter, I'd love to see a YaST module for configuring SUSE Linux
to act as a terminal server (like LTSP, e.g.).


Well - yes it could be interesting. There is FreeNX package that does
it - but no GUI exists - so building a Yast Module will be great !

configuring NX on SUSE 10.0:
http://en.opensuse.org/FreeNX_Server_HOWTO


Re: [opensuse] Packman packages for 10.1 RC2 PowerPC

2006-04-29 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar
On Friday 28 April 2006 10:26, Peter Czanik wrote:
 I have yet to implement secure installation sources (

Feel free to contact me for any questions regarding that.

Duncan

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Re: [opensuse] Packman packages for 10.1 RC2 PowerPC

2006-04-29 Thread houghi
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 03:42:34PM +0200, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:
 On Friday 28 April 2006 10:26, Peter Czanik wrote:
  I have yet to implement secure installation sources (
 
 Feel free to contact me for any questions regarding that.

Perhaps this is also concerning the makeSUSEdvd problems with RC3. 
Already posted to the factory list.

Transfered to bug 166011
There I see some info:
quote
- (once) create a GPG key for signing the modified source (or use an
  existing key)

- adapt the packages file with =Cks: SHA1 sha1sum entries of the RPMs

- add META and KEY entries to /content, see URL above

- sign /content (gpg --detach-sign -a content)
- create /content.key (the above public key used to sign /content)
(gpg --export -a -u keyid  content.key)
/quote

Is there anybody that can explain to me in babysteps on how to do that?
I have never used gpg.
So I suppose I do the following:
`gpg --gen-key`, 5, 2048, 0, y, name and email, passphrase (Or must this
be blank?), generate the key. I then have my key.

Now what?


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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006

2006-04-29 Thread Bruce A. Mallett
Christoph Thiel wrote:
 We are now looking for ideas, proposals, projects, etc. around openSUSE 
 and SUSE Linux, that could be worked on in Google Summer of Code. As the 
 period of application for SoC is already very short, we need to get our 
 proposals for project online May 1st, 2006, at the latest.
   
This is not really SUSE specific, however a GUI VPN setup (in particular
PPTP) that works with Network Manager would be useful.

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006

2006-04-29 Thread SunSunich
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:21:05 +0200 (CEST)
Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Michael Schroeder wrote:
 
  On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:27:40AM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:
   On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, SunSunich wrote:
Yes, like that, but for whole system update. Actualy i forgot
that such feature already used for online update. May be it
will be not so hard to mirror that feature on System Update.
   
   I like that idea very much -- but it might not be as easy as it
   seems in the first place ;)
  
  Actually we already talked about this a couple of months ago. I
  think it can be implemented by having a transport mechanism
  drpmsync next to nfs, ftp and the like. I don't think it
  would be so hard to implement.
 
 Actually, I'd like to see drpmsync over rsync, drpmsync over ftp
 or drpmsync over http, in order to spur the distribution of
 drpmsync in general ;)
 
 
Is it just a plan for future? Or it will be discussed in the smart
branch? Could it be a project idea for SoC?
I don't have a student status, but a friend of mine has, we could
implement that feature for Yast System Update. All we need is a
maintainer.

Best regards,
SunSunich aka Asa-Doo-Leen Saiid

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006

2006-04-29 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sat, 29 Apr 2006, SunSunich wrote:

 Yes, like that, but for whole system update. Actualy i forgot 
 that such feature already used for online update. May be it will 
 be not so hard to mirror that feature on System Update.

I like that idea very much -- but it might not be as easy as it 
seems in the first place ;)
   
   Actually we already talked about this a couple of months ago. I 
   think it can be implemented by having a transport mechanism 
   drpmsync next to nfs, ftp and the like. I don't think it would 
   be so hard to implement.
  
  Actually, I'd like to see drpmsync over rsync, drpmsync over ftp 
  or drpmsync over http, in order to spur the distribution of drpmsync 
  in general ;)
 
 Is it just a plan for future? Or it will be discussed in the smart 
 branch? Could it be a project idea for SoC? I don't have a student 
 status, but a friend of mine has, we could implement that feature for 
 Yast System Update. All we need is a maintainer.

It could be turned into a SoC project -- I'll add it to the page soon, 
amongst the other stuff that has been suggested.


Regards
Christoph

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006

2006-04-29 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

Am Donnerstag, 27. April 2006 20:59 schrieb Christoph Thiel:
 We are now looking for ideas, proposals, projects, etc. around
 openSUSE and SUSE Linux, that could be worked on in Google Summer of
 Code.

What about a better integration of GTK programs into KDE?
I'm dreaming of the possibility to replace _all_ GTK file dialogs [1] 
with KDE dialogs when running GTK applications in KDE...

Maybe GNOME users would like to have it the other way round also (Gnome 
dialogs in KDE applications).


Regards,

Christian Boltz

[1] which are a usability nightmare IMHO - I'm always annoyed when I
have to use them :-/  - another reason for (1) in my random (!) sig.
-- 
(1) ZACKBOING: Geräusch von Stirn auf Monitor-Glasscheibe(2), direkte
Folge von Biosupgrades, selbst kompilierten Kerneln oder dem versehent-
lichen Löschen von 30 Gigabyte Pornofilmen bei einem MySQL-Upgrade.
(2) Deswegen kauft man heute oft Flachbildschirme. Die sind weicher.
[Ratti in suse-linux]

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[opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: User Restrictions (not Child Protection).

2006-04-29 Thread Peter Flodin

I have a proposal that we don't call this feature Child Protection, or
Parental Control or anything similar.

In addition to filtering (I would only use whitelisting) what I would
like to see is an easy way to configure restrictions for users.

I will give a personal example. I have a several computers, one of
which is in a central location visible from our kitchen and eating
area, and is often used by my 4 year old daughter.

I'm quite proud of the fact that she can logon (with username and
password) and run Gcompris and Tux Paint, all by herself, (she can't
read or write). She is allowed to use this computer whenever she
wants, just like she allowed to get pens and paper out and do
drawings.

Now this computer has connection to the internet, and at the moment I
am just relying on her lack of knowledge to get on the internet.

In a Microsoft Windows domain there is something called Global Policy,
which means on a per user and per machine, I could lock down all sort
of settings. eg I could hide control panels, Internet Explorer,
ability to get to a command line, various system rights etc by just
checking boxes. And it would apply to my selection of users and/or
computers in the network.

I am well aware that many of these restriction can be setup in Linux,
but there is no central tool (that I am aware of) that I can use to do
this. eg define these group of settings, restrictions, application
settings and apply them to these Users.

Peter Pflodo Flodin


[opensuse] openSUSE Bounty

2006-04-29 Thread Peter Flodin

What the Google Summer of Code showed me, is that a relatively small
amount of money has caused a great deal of stimulation on getting
everyone discussing new ideas that other requests for new ideas seem
to have failed to do.

It follows on that maybe Novell could a couple of times a year offer a
bounty for SUSE Linux projects, and instead of just students leave it
open to all developers. We would all discuss and create a list of
projects and developers sign up for the bounty. Probably with partial
payment on certain project milestones.

Ubuntu has a bounty system and indeed last year's Google Summer of
Code projects were just included in the existing system of bounties
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyBounties see the table at the bottom for
a list of bounty projects.

Peter Pflodo Flodin


Re: [opensuse] Giving up on Nvidia fx5500 - what other pci vid card has good drivers?

2006-04-29 Thread BandiPat
On Saturday 29 April 2006 02:01, Clayton wrote:
  I've given up on trying to make a nvidia fx5500 work with Suse
  10.0, can't even get it to complete installation using the graphics
  installer, and can't get it to start X even when using fx86config
  to try and set up a basic.
 
  What other video card chipset has a good driver support with suse?
  There was an ATI Radeon something there, but I recall ATI has had a
  reputation for poor support. Has this improved? (My wife dropped by
  the shop on a trip into town but can't remember the exact model).

 Well... from long experience with SUSE and nVidia and ATI video
 cards, I'll never willing use an ATI card.  They are a total
 nightmare.  I'd highly recommend nVidia again despite your problems. 
 I've had a 5200FX working very nicely in SUSE for several years, and
 have recently and very painlessly upgraded to an nVidia 6600GT.

 I've also recently had an ATI9250, and while I was able to get it to
 work, it never worked properly.

 If you need soem help setting up your existing nVidia card, just
 ask... there's loads of us on the list here that use nVidia and are
 very pleased with the results... and with how easy it usualy is to
 set up.

 C.

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And my experience has been just the opposite Clayton.  The NVidia cards 
have been a nightmare for me, but I've yet to have a burp with any of 
the ATI cards I've used, installed or recommended.  Even using the ATI 
drivers now have become quite simple to install and setup, although 
since most of the cards are supported natively in X.org, it's very 
seldom you need to use their drivers, unlike nVidia, to get 3d.  I 
doubt there has been a single nVidia card user or very few that hasn't 
had to get help on the suse-e list.

But still no matter what we've experienced, the OP will have to make up 
his own mind as to what he wants to try.  No matter what the user 
decides, it will always be a hit or miss thing, you just hope for the 
best sometimes.

Regards,
Lee

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[opensuse] Novell's openSUSE Project Named Best of Show by LinuxWorld

2006-04-29 Thread Fred A. Miller
Novell's openSUSE Project Named Best of Show by LinuxWorld
Magazine-Sponsored Awards
SYS-Con
http://au.sys-con.com/read/204582.htm

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