Re: [opensuse] konvenientSUSE
On Fri, 2006-08-25 at 00:23 +0200, Martin Schlander wrote: > Torsdag 24 august 2006 22:40 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Each button executes a small script - sometimes just a single command, when > the button is not grey anymore the script is done. Hopefully succesfully - > but things can fail. I noticed I must be patient and maybe try a few times to install them. The Packman, Guru and KDE repos are in the YaST "Install Sources" afterward, so do the Additional repos. Eventually the Multimedia playback etc Music and Video codecs (KDE) win32codec work OK. I'll try the other things over the next few days. Great scripts. :-) Al - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] USB Mouse - Turns off.... then won't turn back on. USB Hard drives... can't unplug them and plug back in...
I have a USB mouse from a company in the NW US that shall rename nameless and I'm using a Dell laptop... however, I'm using SLED 10 and at random times, it will power off. Then it won't "powerup" - the light goes off, the mouse doesn't work... This also happens if I say unplug the USB mouse, then try to plug it back in. Plugging it into a different port doesn't work. In fact, the same happens with USB hard drives (although haven't had them power down) - if I unplug one, then try to plug it back in I get nothing... Any ideas what's causing this? Is there a way to restart usb with udev or something?
Re: [opensuse] What is, Yast Descriptions
jim tate schrieb: > That is about the extent of the error message. I don't understand what that means. I grepped /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/smart for the string "Yast descriptions are not installed" and did not find a single match. In other words, what you posted is definitely not the original text of the error message, and helping here will be very difficult. > What do you fix? Nothing right now. But wait, I just found a similar one: "YaST2 package descriptions not loaded." That one basically means: rm -f /var/lib/smart/channels/* rm -f /var/lib/smart/cache And everything should be fine again. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What is, Yast Descriptions
Andreas Hanke wrote: jim tate schrieb: Updating with Smart package manager, I keep getting errors, Yast descriptions are not installed. Is that the complete, original error message? If not, could you please copy&paste the error message here? In any case, you might want to try rpm-md channels instead of yast2 channels... Both should work, but if one of them doesn't, switching to the other type is an easy "fix". - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is about the extent of the error message. What do you fix? Jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] konvenientSUSE
Torsdag 24 august 2006 22:40 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Yes, it helps a lot. On the installation: Would like the old progress > bar or something to tell me what is being done, and the result though. A > nice to have I know ... buttons go grey when clicked and after a short > while go normal again. I take it that it has finished the install when > it becomes normal again, or did it not install and needs other required > packages? I try to be very explicit about what each button does. Each button executes a small script - sometimes just a single command, when the button is not grey anymore the script is done. Hopefully succesfully - but things can fail. Maybe the redirect URLs handed out a bad mirror, maybe the user forgot to lower rug security level or update smart channels, maybe their internet connection is bad etc. To get better feedback I'll recommend running it from a root terminal - that way you can follow the process in the terminal output. Not very noob friendly I know. I'll try to look into using Kommander's possibilities better in this respect but I'm afraid they're limited - as is documentation. And unfortunately my middle name is neither C++ nor Qt. But I'm considering ways to improve in this area - I'm looking into building a RPM - maybe I'll have the menu-entry always run the script in a terminal - might be a bit confusing to users - but they'll have more feedback - and they'll be able to see what goes wrong if something doesn't work right. Just an idea so far. Btw. you can open the .kmdr file with a text-editor since it's actually just an xml-file - however this also means that it's not easily readable. But it's one way to see what the script does beforehand. You can also open the script with kommander-editor. Simply right click on the buttons -> Edit Kommander-text, to see the script for each button. Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] konvenientSUSE
So what? Yes, they demand it, no, we CANNOT deliver that right now. Full stop. So what? You try telling that to some new user who's interested in this Linux thing... Saying "it's not legal to include on the SUSE DVD" is a perfectly legitamate answer. What I have a MAJOR issue with is that there are NO LEGAL avenues or alternatives. To get that much demanded multimedia playback the user has the choice of a 3rd party repository that is clearly at the minimum a grey area in terms of legality in most parts of the world. I'm not saying that SUSE is at fault here... I know the whole issue... I understand it... and I hate it. Ubuntu users can use (unofficial!) Debian packages - so can SUSE users with Pakman. BUT Ubuntu provides an easy way for users to add in those extras. SUSE does not. I know there are good reasons (as thrashed to death here). Imagine youreslef a new user... one who can't wade through the misery that is the openSUSE wiki. You want to play that video that Uncle Bob emailed you. You cannot... unless you stumble on the handy addon that started this thread :-P > I am fully aware of the legal implications... but as an end user I > find it unacceptable that the solution is to not have a solution. Windows doesn't have one. Users accept this, and install XVid, DivX, Vorbis, etc. themselves. Why isn't this accepted in the Linux world?!? You're missing the point. Windows users do have a solution. They have easy to find and single click install applications. You take your average computer user and you tell them.. Go install PowerDVD (or whatever) in Windows. They can because it takes very little technical knowledge... and they have a fully legitamate solution available in the form of a bit of software they can purchase and download. They want to do the same in SUSE... and I have to take them to the back room (figuratively speaking) and tell them that there is no legal way to do it... but if they go over here... add a repository (following cryptic info on the openSUSE Wiki)... at this point their eyes glaze over... Tell me... what's the difference between telling people how to add the repositories on the openSUSE Wiki, and doing the Ubuntu thing and including them (disabled) in the packagemanager of choice? Anyway, I'm not trying to slag on SUSE... just voicing the frustration I face every day when people I'm trying to help migrate to SUSE are grousing at me about Linux etc etc. It's not accepting that they have to download drivers and apps separately it's the fact that there is so often no legal solution... and what solution there is, is complex convoluted and obsfucated. You now, as I think of it, maybe the reason thsi isn't accepted in teh Linux world is that when someone gets the SUSE distro, they get what appears to be a complete solution. They get all the apps.. they get Openoffice, The Gimp, GAIM, Kopete, video players, browsers... everything.. except the bit the really want... the elusive multimedia. Maybe this is why the new users get cranky... I don't know. I do know I hate being on the front lines and facing them some days Yes, there might be support for some codecs in the future, yes, we do know about everyone wanting this to work on a basic system, yes, we do work on it, no, it won't come fast. I know... :-) As much as I detest Real Player what about the announcement that they are licensing the Windows media codecs including WMV... like they did with MP3. While I will continue to use Guru and Packman solutions... the Real Media way would probably work fine for the new users. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] konvenientSUSE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Schlander wrote: > Torsdag 24 august 2006 08:34 skrev Marcus Meissner: >> 2. This would require NVidia / ATI KMP support ... for 10.1 we >>just get it because SLED10 has it ... > > That's dropping a bomb. Suddenly you realize how quickly you get used to nice > things. > > Is there no way to provide the KMPs for 10.2? I figured you guys did all the > work anyway and ATi/Nvidia merely hosted the stuff. How about KMPs by for > example Packman for 10.2, possible? And when service packs are released for nvidia drivers hosted at packman ? oO Will we (=packman team) have to sign NDAs ? ;) Martin, you arrange the deal, contracts and stuff with nvidia and ati, we maintain the KMPs ;) - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE7hcMr3NMWliFcXcRAuMRAJ92y0yz7bYlE1K4O3Me2efFx5UbqwCgoM9k 2ypsQbYX9RS3EPVVINP8Lec= =UrvO -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What is, Yast Descriptions
jim tate schrieb: > Updating with Smart package manager, I keep getting errors, Yast > descriptions are not installed. Is that the complete, original error message? If not, could you please copy&paste the error message here? In any case, you might want to try rpm-md channels instead of yast2 channels... Both should work, but if one of them doesn't, switching to the other type is an easy "fix". - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] konvenientSUSE
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 02:40 +0200, Marcel Mourguiart wrote: > 2006/8/24, Martin Schlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > New release is out. > http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=43378 > > New features: > - A script that patches fresh installations with a single > click > - Install Nvidia/ATi KMPs > - Script for installing GNOME specific multimedia stuff > > > Great !! this is just what i was looking for :) > > THANKS > > > -- > Marcel Mourguiart Yes, it helps a lot. On the installation: Would like the old progress bar or something to tell me what is being done, and the result though. A nice to have I know ... buttons go grey when clicked and after a short while go normal again. I take it that it has finished the install when it becomes normal again, or did it not install and needs other required packages? :-) Al - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] konvenientSUSE
Hi,
Pascal Bleser schrieb:
> Martin, you arrange the deal, contracts and stuff with nvidia and ati,
> we maintain the KMPs ;)
There is no requirement for a special deal or contract, since both
NVidia and ATI have generic Linux exceptions in their EULAs.
NVidia:
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FreeBSD operating systems, or other operating systems derived from the
source code to these operating systems, may be copied and redistributed,
provided that the binary files thereof are not modified in any way
(except for unzipping of compressed files).
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[opensuse] What is, Yast Descriptions
Suse 10.1 Updating with Smart package manager, I keep getting errors, Yast descriptions are not installed. How do I fix that, that has only happen to one PC that I installed Suse 10.1. Jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] konvenientSUSE
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 02:16:17PM -0400, Marcel Mourguiart wrote: > > > > > >This has been asked and commented a thousand times. Nuff said. > > > Asking what ?? no body made a question or even a critic. > > Matthias and Marcus, you are losing the point here. > > Suse 10.1 can't play divx, encrypted dvd Due to legal reasons, correct. > have issues in fresh installs and This is a known problem which will be better for 10.2. > need proprietary drivers froms ATI and Nvidia to have 3D acceleration in > some machines. Neither ATI nor NVIDIA allow us to ship their drivers with our products if I remember correctly. So there is not much we can do. ALso while NVIDIA is "barely" accepted legal wise from the Kernel community, the ATI kernel driver is supposed to have GPL problems. (IANAL) > Is Suse problem or Novell or Legal ... i don't know and the > people who i give support just don't care. We would very very much have it better. > This meant a lot of work given support to new user in order to make suse > work, know this script help me a lot and help a lot of others persons to > make this things work in a easy way, and you jump like this is critic to > your work ?? Not even a thanks to take the time to make a script that > improve suse 10.1 ?? I really don't get you guys. You asked for inclusion into 10.2 itself ... I explained why we likely won't do it. I welcome that you do this for 10.1 and find it a nice solution. :) Ciao, Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Increase disk space for Logical Volumes on-line
does anybody have any good or bad experiences with Veritas Volume Manager under SuSE 9 or 10? my requirement is to be able to increase size of mount points that are allocated using LVM for ext3 file systems on-line (i.e. no umount). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] konvenientSUSE
This has been asked and commented a thousand times. Nuff said. Asking what ?? no body made a question or even a critic.Matthias and Marcus, you are losing the point here.Suse 10.1 can't play divx, encrypted dvd, have issues in fresh installs and need proprietary drivers froms ATI and Nvidia to have 3D acceleration in some machines. Is Suse problem or Novell or Legal ... i don't know and the people who i give support just don't care. This meant a lot of work given support to new user in order to make suse work, know this script help me a lot and help a lot of others persons to make this things work in a easy way, and you jump like this is critic to your work ?? Not even a thanks to take the time to make a script that improve suse 10.1 ?? I really don't get you guys.-- Marcel Mourguiart
Re: [opensuse] konvenientSUSE
On Aug 24, 06 08:57:37 +0200, Clayton wrote: > >3. Users wishes might vary and we cannot provide auto install > > support for some repos for legal reasons. > > Agreed... I understand that, BUT... it is pretty much a well known > fact that users... as in home users demand multimedia support. (for So what? Yes, they demand it, no, we CANNOT deliver that right now. Full stop. > example). That is not well supported in SUSE (or most Linux distros > to be honest). The reality is... people want tp play music and This isn't supported on ANY linux distribution that cares about legal issues (don't know about chinese distributions). Ubuntu users can use (unofficial!) Debian packages - so can SUSE users with Pakman. BTW - Windows doesn't do any multimedia appart from playing mp3s as well, and mp3s work out-of-the-box on SL 10.1. > video.. to be able to watch embedded video on websites... to listen to > radio streams etc etc. You cannot do that with a normally installed > SUSE. You must install all those "naughty" extras. So you have to do on Windows. Sigh. > I am fully aware of the legal implications... but as an end user I > find it unacceptable that the solution is to not have a solution. Windows doesn't have one. Users accept this, and install XVid, DivX, Vorbis, etc. themselves. Why isn't this accepted in the Linux world?!? > There MUST be some compromise or licensing solution that will give > people what they want! Learn the implied costs for all codec licenses and ask again... Yes, there might be support for some codecs in the future, yes, we do know about everyone wanting this to work on a basic system, yes, we do work on it, no, it won't come fast. > Adding the Guru and Packman repos... having a one or two click > installation of my nVidia or ATI drivers (just like it used to be in > SUSE)... being able to play my legally purchased DVDs... it's all > important to me and improtant to the people I'm helping migrate to > SUSE. Adding a link to Pakman implies similar legal issues than just adding the packages on the medium. This has been asked and commented a thousand times. Nuff said. Matthias -- Matthias Hopf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, SuSE labs, Zimmer 3.2.06, Tel. 74053-715 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Help with suidperl
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 06:49:41PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am needing help with suidperl, about a month ago, I install
> > openwebmail, and it has me change the permission to 4755, which let
> > openwebmail work, but the problem I having is all my other perl stuff
> > has stop working because it gives an error that while running a
> > premature end of script header.
>
> Try to run `suidperl -cwT otherperlstuff` as normal user and check the
> error.
Note also that you MUST NOT give "suidperl" root s-bits, as it is
just a hard link to perl. It's only existing for compatibility reasons.
The right place for the s-bit is sperl, i.e. /usr/bin/sperl5.8.8
Cheers,
Michael.
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Re: [opensuse] Help with suidperl
> Hi, > > I am needing help with suidperl, about a month ago, I install > openwebmail, and it has me change the permission to 4755, which let > openwebmail work, but the problem I having is all my other perl stuff > has stop working because it gives an error that while running a > premature end of script header. Try to run `suidperl -cwT otherperlstuff` as normal user and check the error. Jan Engelhardt -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] konvenientSUSE
2006/8/24, Marcus Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 08:25:51AM +0200, Clayton wrote:> >> New release is out.> >> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=43378 > >>> >> New features:> >> - A script that patches fresh installations with a single click> >> - Install Nvidia/ATi KMPs> >> - Script for installing GNOME specific multimedia stuff >> Wow... this is something that SUSE DESPERATELY needs. Would it be> hoping too much to find it included on the SUSE 10.2 release?> Probably :-(>> This makes my job of supporting SUSE on new users machines SO much easier! What part of it?1. Should be done by better package management anyway.2. This would require NVidia / ATI KMP support ... for 10.1 we just get it because SLED10 has it ... The registration process auto-adds those repos on SLED10, we could do similar on 10.2.3. Users wishes might vary and we cannot provide auto install support for some repos for legal reasons.Well that's why, just like Clayton ... " This makes my job of supporting SUSE on new users machines SO much easier!"This is not a flame post, this really help supporting Suse 10.1 on new users machines, full multimedia ( including WMV and encripted DVD ), install proprietary drivers in a easy way, patch bugs in 10.1 fresh installation, are things people want and just doesn't matter is you don't have those features because for legal reason or because is in SLED10, is just not the point, we are talking about helping people who want to use Suse 10.1Again, thanks for this script you are helping a lot with this, i had see something similar in Ubuntu is good to know now is in Suse too.-- Marcel Mourguiart
[opensuse] Help with suidperl
Hi, I am needing help with suidperl, about a month ago, I install openwebmail, and it has me change the permission to 4755, which let openwebmail work, but the problem I having is all my other perl stuff has stop working because it gives an error that while running a premature end of script header. How do I fix it where all my scripting are happy? Could I take the rpm for perl copy into the local dir and point the scripts with the problem there or would it have the same effect? Any help would be welcome at this point. Payne -- Command, n.: Statement presented by a human and accepted by a computer in such a manner as to make the human feel as if he is in control. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Internet Installation Repository for 10.2 Alpha3?
Christophe Veber wrote: > Are there internet installation repositories available for Suse > 10.2Alpha3? > > For Alpha3, I only found ISO images, while for the factory I found no > ISOs and only internet installation repositories. > > Btw, are there DVD ISOs for Alpha3? > > Christophe >From the Development_Version page ( http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version ) at the bottom of the page... "There do not exist fixed stabilized installation repositories for development releases but you can install the Factory Distribution. Note: Factory has no guarantee to be in a consistent and installable state all the time." So, for the snapshot in time called Alpha3 there are only ISO images. Factory keeps moving forward. Darren - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Internet Installation Repository for 10.2 Alpha3?
Are there internet installation repositories available for Suse 10.2Alpha3? For Alpha3, I only found ISO images, while for the factory I found no ISOs and only internet installation repositories. Btw, are there DVD ISOs for Alpha3? Christophe
Re: [opensuse] konvenientSUSE
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 12:04:54PM +0200, Martin Schlander wrote: > Torsdag 24 august 2006 08:34 skrev Marcus Meissner: > > 2. This would require NVidia / ATI KMP support ... for 10.1 we > >just get it because SLED10 has it ... > > That's dropping a bomb. Suddenly you realize how quickly you get used to nice > things. Yeah. > Is there no way to provide the KMPs for 10.2? I figured you guys did all the > work anyway and ATi/Nvidia merely hosted the stuff. In the background we do that I think, as a service for the above partners. > How about KMPs by for > example Packman for 10.2, possible? And when service packs are released for > SLE in the future will kernel syncs be likely? Its not clear how ATI and NVIDIA modules will be provided for 10.2. :/ I hope that we can do similar, but it needs to be discussed internally. Ciao, Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] konvenientSUSE
Torsdag 24 august 2006 08:34 skrev Marcus Meissner: > 2. This would require NVidia / ATI KMP support ... for 10.1 we >just get it because SLED10 has it ... That's dropping a bomb. Suddenly you realize how quickly you get used to nice things. Is there no way to provide the KMPs for 10.2? I figured you guys did all the work anyway and ATi/Nvidia merely hosted the stuff. How about KMPs by for example Packman for 10.2, possible? And when service packs are released for SLE in the future will kernel syncs be likely? Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why Red Hat will go bust because of Ubuntu
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 04:20:35PM +0200, Martin Schlander wrote: > Not one word about (open)SUSE being a nice and stable distro that's supposed > to increase use of Linux at home and small offices. > > Of course the openSUSE-project description states: "We work together to > create > and distribute the world's most usable Linux." I must have gotten this > wrong - I thought we were working together to make (open)SUSE better - but > apparently the Linux-distro we're making usable is SLE. Nice of Ted Haeger to > inform us what's going on in and around Novell. > > Someone please tell me, that this man is _wrong_. Follow-up on this question / discussion in the latest Novell Open Audio Episode: Ted admits he got it wrong ;-) See http://www.novell.com/company/podcasts/openaudio.html, the rest of the episode contains interviews with the SUSE Autobuild and QA teams which might be interesting for you as well. cheers, Sonja -- Sonja Krause-Harder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Research & Development SUSE Linux Products GmbH - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Now even smart is boken :-(
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