date:20061207


Coach-X a écrit :

Does anyone know if you can do a minimal install with suse 10.2 only
using CD 1?  We are currently using 9.3 and a minimal install installs
all packages except for 1 which is on CD 5.


really minimal (that is only text/console) needs only cd one
jdd

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>> procfs is such a nice thing, esp. the links /proc/$$/cwd, root, exe,
>> etc. Solaris is a real loser in this respect (go figure out all the
>> ps, pstat and lsof options).
>
> I like Solaris (quickly ducks under desks while Penguins are flying by...),

penguin raid!

(note the double meaning)

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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] Get Involved! openSUSE community meeting 2006-12-16 18:00GMT


[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :


- Brainstorming session to concoct achievable projects that would directly
benefit openSUSE. Please come with ideas if you have any.


we need badly a set of utilities to advocate openSUSE (on 
LUG meetings, for example):

* one page document for easy spreading
* + more complete booklet
* + impress slides
* + gadgets (don't underestimate the strenght of such things :-)

* Novelles made a contests for 3D animation about Linux. I 
could see the winners and they where said to be available on 
Novell's site, but I was not given enough pass for access. 
these videos are very nice and good also for openSUSE, 
should be nice to have them (and the authorisation of using 
them)


jdd

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Re: [opensuse] Which Shell do I Have?


>Am Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2006 01:44 schrieb Randall R Schulz:
>
>> Go back and look. He wrote out "Thank you." at the end of the last
>> paragraph.
>
>it must be a sad life with nothing better to do than nitpicking about 
>mailing list posts.

Even less to comment on the nitpicking of such.
:)


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>On Wednesday 06 December 2006 20:44, Anders Johansson wrote:
>
>The '$$', is that a shortcut to the current process name?

PID. Note that it may also stand as an abbreviation
for "more money", and $$$ for "lots of money".
scnr.

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Re: [opensuse] Which Shell do I Have?

2006-12-07 Thread Pete Connolly

On Thursday 07 December 2006 10:35, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> >On Wednesday 06 December 2006 20:44, Anders Johansson wrote:
> >
> >The '$$', is that a shortcut to the current process name?
>
> PID. Note that it may also stand as an abbreviation
> for "more money", and $$$ for "lots of money".
> scnr.
>
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Aha, get it.  Thanks for that Jan.

Cheers

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Re: [opensuse] Get Involved! openSUSE community meeting 2006-12-16 18:00GMT

2006-12-07 Thread Jordi Massaguer i Pla

There is a feature, already at the wishlist, I'd like to be discussed. That
is installing OpenSuSE without configuring the BIOS on a windows box
(easying the installation process). That is the purpose of a project I am
involved called "instlux (http://instlux.sourceforge.net)" and I think it is
mature enough to start discussing about it at the opensuse comunity.

Also, I have some experience programming YaST modules, so I could help on
the YaST clean up UI thing.

greetings, 

jordi

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> - Missatge original -
> Assumpte: [opensuse] Get Involved! openSUSE community meeting 2006-12-16
18:00GMT
> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Per: opensuse@opensuse.org
> CC: opensuse-announce@opensuse.org
> Data: 06-12-2006 23:28
> 
> 
> Details:
>   Date: Saturday - 2006-12-16
>   Time: 18:00 GMT
>   Location: irc.freenode.net #opensuse-community
> 
> Explanation:
> 
> This meeting is primarily organised for, and run by openSUSE community
> members who are not employed by Novell/SUSE.
> This meeting is not a status meeting, Status meetings are primarily
> communication to and from @suse.de folk.
> 
> The aims of the meeting are to:
> 
>   - Inform (of existing community participation.)
>   - Encourage (further community involvements through practical
suggestions.)
>   - Enable (said involvement with further meetings & connecting 
> resources.)
> 
> The meeting is planned for a Saturday as this seems to be the best day to
> allow as many people as possible who do not work for Novell/SUSE to
> attend.
> 
> A core group of people have already agreed to attend. It would be great to
> have as many people as possible attend. Whether you have any interest in
> participating in the project in any capacity, or are simply interested in
> what others are doing.
> 
> It would be good to feedback on the results of this meeting at the status
> meeting on 2006-12-20. However, most of those involved with organising
> this meeting are unable to attend status meetings due to timing.
> 
> Agenda below:
> 
> ---
> Agenda:
> 
> - Introduction/Purpose of meeting.
> - Overview of a selection of existing projects with opensuse community
> involvement, and how others can get involved.
> 
>   - opensuseupdater (Narayan Newton)
>   - Translation (Martin Schlander)
>   - Packaging (Pascal Bleser)
>   - Build Service clients (Jonathan Arsenault)
>   - Package Search (Benjamin Weber)
>   - Perhaps more, time permitting. If you want to talk about a project you
> are involved with let me know, or reply to this thread.
> 
> - Brainstorming session to concoct achievable projects that would directly
> benefit openSUSE. Please come with ideas if you have any. Aim for projects
> requiring varying skillsets. Results can be populated on
> http://en.opensuse.org/Tasks . Some ideas to kick off discussion:
> 
>   - Some ideas on http://en.opensuse.org/Tasks and
> http://en.opensuse.org/Feature_Wishlist already.
>   - Extensions to pre-existing projects mentioned in the first part of the
> meeting.
>   - YaST module UI cleanup [1]
>   - FAQ [2]
>   - One click repository adding + Package install [3]
>   - Hopefully many more to be gathered before and during meeting.
> 
> - Organisation
>   - Exchange names/contact details with any who are interested in helping
> with a particular suggestion.
>   - Plan dates for subsequent specialized meetings to persue any projects
> with significant interest.
>   - Set preliminary date for next community meeting.
>   - Assign task of writing minutes.
>   - Assign task of updating wiki tasks/projects page with results of this
> meeting.
>   - Assign task of giving feedback on the results of this meeting at the
> next status meeting.
> 
> -AOB
> 
> ---
> 
> [1] Certain modules in YaST are in need of user interface improvements to
> make their core functionality accessable to inexperienced users, This
> breaks down into several tasks for those with varying abilities/time.
> 
>   - Gather feedback about current modules, Identify core use-cases for
> modules.
>   - Design/Mockup improved UI to better enable these core use-cases.
>   - Gather feedback on suggested changes.
>   - Make suggested changes.
> 
>   Requires: Users, Designers/Artists, Developers
> 
> [2] There are innumerable existing howtos, tutorials, and support articles
> all over the place, on opensuse.org and in other places. Some superb,
> others less good.
> 
> Many of the very most frequently asked questions touch areas of
> questionable legality and cannot be hosted on opensuse.org.
> 
> It would be very beneficial to have a FAQ covering a few of the very most
> frequently asked questions and a "Best practice" consistent answer to each
> of the top n questions. They would

Re: [opensuse] Multiple DNS servers in /etc/resolv.conf

2006-12-07 Thread Sylvester Lykkehus

Seth Arnold wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 12:17:36AM +0100, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
>   
>> How on earth do i get around this, and why does it seem that both
>> nameservers are not queried ?
>> 
>
> The easiest solution I've found to this problem is to use pdns-recursor,
> which is available via the build service:
>
> http://repos.opensuse.org/server:/dns/
>
> Add the .repo file corresponding to your distribution to yast or smart
> and install pdns-recursor.
>
> Edit /etc/resolv.conf to use only one nameserver 127.0.0.1
>
> Use the pdns_recursor --config option to generate a blank config template.
> Edit the config file as you see fit. You probably won't need to change
> anything.
> Add an appropriate line like this:
> forward-zones=int.wirex.com=10.30.0.15,suse.cz=10.20.0.2
>
> This says that queries ending in .int.wirex.com go to DNS server at
> 10.30.0.15, queries ending in .suse.cz go to server 10.20.0.2.
>
> I've been thrilled by my new DNS experience. :)
>   
Hi Seth,

Seems very interesting, and sounds exactly like what I was looking for.
I will test this out at first opportunity I get, and post the results :-)

Best regards
Sylvester Lykkehus
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Re: [opensuse] Home network problem

2006-12-07 Thread Mike McMullin

On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 23:12 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2006/12/06 22:03 (GMT-0600) Greg Wallace apparently typed:
> 
> > If you are using a router, I believe the router address should show as your
> > nameserver, not the actual nameservers of the ISP.
> 
> I have my router's DNS service disabled, and set my ISP server IPs plus
> one other in resolv.conf.

  I did that too for a while Felix.  I was on the phone to their tech
support and they informed me that they wanted all client routers to
dynamically look to their DNS servers as they change the addresses on
them periodically.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done


On 12/7/06, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Really?  I never had anyone ask that, and I've been waiting with a ready
answer.
See that little Help icon in the task bar?


gcc has good man pages. But I still go out and get the o'reilly books.
some reasons: you can read them while you are crammed upright in a
subway. you can read them on the loo. e.t.c..

:-)




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[opensuse] Intel 945GM driver?

2006-12-07 Thread Russ Hay


I'm actually running SLED10 - but guess the driver packages are close
enough. Are there any driver improvements out there for this
integrated video chipset, as I'm seeing some fairly horrendous screen
redraws on various applications vs. running the Win32 port of the same
app.

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Re: [opensuse] Which Shell do I Have?

2006-12-07 Thread Dr. Werner Fink

On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 12:40:06PM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 December 2006 12:30, Geir A. Myrestrand wrote:
> > Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 06 December 2006 11:17, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
> > >> Anders Johansson wrote:
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >>> ls -l /proc/$$/exe
> > >>
> > >> Could you please elaborate why you came up with this solution? I
> > >> think this is not portable - for instance, our HP box here has no
> > >> procfs, so your solution fails. An "echo $0" should always work
> > >> (as far as I know).
> > >
> > > I thought it was rather clever.
> > >
> > > This is a list for users of openSUSE Linux or of other Novell SuSE
> > > Linux releases. At the very least, Linux is a reasonable assumption
> > > for answers given here, and all current Linux systems have a proc
> > > file system.
> >
> > Note that procfs is deprecated. It is likely to be removed one day.
> > To make your solution future-proof you should avoid using it.
> 
> "My" solution? I did not propose it, Anders Johansson did.
> 
> "Deprecated" is typically nothing more than a wag of the proverbial 
> finger. And nothing works forever.

head -25 /etc/bash.bashrc

... 

   Werner

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Re: [opensuse] OT List.

Jos van Kan wrote:
> Fred A. Miller wrote:
>   
>>  What's going on the OT list..reject after reject! An example is below.
>>
>> 
> Errmmm... Maybe you used op your quota for 2006? ;-)
>
>   

Or perhaps he posted something that was on topic?  ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done

D Gavrilovic wrote:
> On 12/7/06, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Really?  I never had anyone ask that, and I've been waiting with a ready
>> answer.
>> See that little Help icon in the task bar?
>
> gcc has good man pages. But I still go out and get the o'reilly books.
> some reasons: you can read them while you are crammed upright in a
> subway. you can read them on the loo. e.t.c..
>
> :-)
>
Windows manuals are good for placing under a table leg, to keep the
table from rocking.  ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] Home network problem

2006-12-07 Thread Felix Miata

On 2006/12/07 06:18 (GMT-0500) Mike McMullin apparently typed:

> On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 23:12 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

>> On 2006/12/06 22:03 (GMT-0600) Greg Wallace apparently typed:

>> > If you are using a router, I believe the router address should show as your
>> > nameserver, not the actual nameservers of the ISP.

>> I have my router's DNS service disabled, and set my ISP server IPs plus
>> one other in resolv.conf.

>   I did that too for a while Felix.  I was on the phone to their tech
> support and they informed me that they wanted all client routers to
> dynamically look to their DNS servers as they change the addresses on
> them periodically.

Nothing in the rules says you need depend on your ISP's DNS servers.
Setting manually means when theirs go down you aren't stuck with nothing.
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[opensuse] Re: Accents in LyX/Mac

2006-12-07 Thread A. den Oudsten

Bennett Helm wrote:

On Dec 6, 2006, at 5:19 PM, Bruce Pourciau wrote:

On Dec 6, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Stephen Buonopane wrote:

On Dec 6, 2006, at 4:55 PM, Maria Gouskova wrote:

> Depending on the accent you want (acute or grave), insert the
> following in ERT:
>
> \'e
> \`e
>

This *shouldn't* be required. I can type accents in LyX just like I
can in any other application on Mac (with the exception that when I
hit -e initially in LyX, I don't see the acute accent
appearing above the cursor as is normal for other applications,
though when I hit the second e (without the  key), I get  the
"é" character).

This is very cool (I'm relatively new to Macs, so I didn't know  about
this input method). But it doesn't work for me, either. Details  below.

I have the same behavior as Maria. No accents.
I am using OS X 10.4.8 and LyX 1.4.2 with mac.bind.

If I remember right, I had the same nice behavior as Bennett in LyX/ 
Mac before I upgraded to LyX/Mac 1.4.1 and OS 10.4.5. That's why I  
was surprised that I couldn't duplicate it and assumed that I was  
just not remembering the correct keystrokes.

I've done some further testing. I use the Dvorak keyboard, which  gives 
me no problem. When I switch to the US or US Extended  keyboards, I 
don't get accents: typing "-e e" gives me  nothing on the 
screen. However, switching to at least some  international keyboards 
restores accents. Thus, the German keyboard  enables me to type 
"-u u" to give me a "ü".

This means something is going wrong with the interpretation of the US  
keyboards. Any help from developers?

Bennett

See User Guide 6.6.3 on character tables and Reference.lyx 3.1

When I type  accent-acute a in the mini buffer I get á

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[opensuse] Re: Can anyone run GTK Emacs with wxGTK installed?

2006-12-07 Thread Stephen Berman

On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:45:35 + (GMT) Francesco Scaglioni wrote:

> I cannot even get emacs-snapshot-gtk to install.  Both apt
> and rpm fail with missing libpng and pibtiff missing errors
> (both of which I have and the versions look OK).  Attempts
> to force install also error.
>
> Does anyone know of a suse apt repository that has any of
> this as the packages I have have been alien'd from debs ?

I don't know of any SUSE rpm's of Emacs 22, whether built with GTK or
another toolkit.  But it's really not much more difficult to build
Emacs from source, as long as you install the necessary packages,
e.g. libpng-devel etc.  You can get the latest pretest tarball from
ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest. 

Steve Berman

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done

2006-12-07 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 12:37 -0500, Robert Cunningham wrote:
> I also miss getting the SuSE  lapel pins, T-shirts, and stickers.
> my T-shirt  is getting pretty worn out  and want an new sticker for my
> work computer

I really think the stickers would be great. I always take the MS
stickers off computers we use. It would be nice to replace them with a
SUSE/Linux tag that stays on. Don't underestimate subtle advertising.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done

2006-12-07 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 20:38 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 December 2006 08:55, Jos van Kan wrote:
> > Maybe its worthwile for Novell/Suse to set up a "Print on Demand" service?
> > I'm sure a lot of customers would be willing to pay extra for the
> > clothbound admin manual.
> 
> This is a very good idea, and Kinkos (usa) and Mail Boxes Etc (aka UPS store) 
> would take that business in a heart beat.  Sign up on line, pay as you pick 

An international solution would be great. We have Mail Boxes etc in
Stockholm.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done

2006-12-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan

* James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-07-06 07:41]:
> Windows manuals are good for placing under a table leg, to keep the
> table from rocking.  ;-)

Must be the only thing they are good for.  I put several out back in
the three-holer seven or eight years ago and they are still there  :^).
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[opensuse] On my SUSE linux 10.1 kernel: ide: failed opcode was 0xef

Hello,

On my laptop I just started getting this error below about 3 weeks ago.  I
have tried to track it down, but I have been unsuccessfule.  The message
in the log is...

Dec  6 06:33:35 blg kernel: ide: failed opcode was: 0xef


This is the last message in logs and then I am not able to close any
windows in KDE or write to the HD.  The only way to get things to work is
a power off.  I have been unable to track down what is causing this
problem.  It can happen from an hour to 6 days.  That is the longest I
have made it.  I have another laptop which is almost exactly the same and
it never happens.  Any ideas on how to find the cause?  I do notice that
the machine near the right side of the keyboard some times is a bit warm,
but I am not sure if that is the problem.  If the machine is hung and I go
to one of my X-terms on the machine I quicly find out that it is hung.  An
other symtom is the clock in the lower right conner stops advancing.  Also
the repeat on the arrow keys stops functioning.

Thanks,

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done

2006-12-07 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard

Torsdag den 7. december 2006 14:32 skrev Roger Oberholtzer:
> On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 12:37 -0500, Robert Cunningham wrote:
> > I also miss getting the SuSE  lapel pins, T-shirts, and stickers.
> > my T-shirt  is getting pretty worn out  and want an new sticker for my
> > work computer
>
> I really think the stickers would be great. I always take the MS
> stickers off computers we use. It would be nice to replace them with a
> SUSE/Linux tag that stays on. Don't underestimate subtle advertising.
>
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> Ramböll Sverige AB
> Kapellgränd 7
> P.O. Box 4205
> SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden
>
> Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20
> Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23

From Novell I got a (very) few green SLED10 stickers to go onto a PC. My 
customers er fighting to get them. It show A LOT of status NOT to have the 
windooze sticker "just like everyone else" has.

It's highly needed and it's a REAL good idea.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 12:37 -0500, Robert Cunningham wrote:
> > I also miss getting the SuSE  lapel pins, T-shirts, and stickers.
> > my T-shirt  is getting pretty worn out  and want an new sticker for my
> > work computer
>
> I really think the stickers would be great. I always take the MS
> stickers off computers we use. It would be nice to replace them with a
> SUSE/Linux tag that stays on. Don't underestimate subtle advertising.

That is what I think I miss the most.  I really prefered the Admin Manual,
but having it on the DVD is OK, but I really want the stickers back.

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Re: [opensuse] On my SUSE linux 10.1 kernel: ide: failed opcode was 0xef

2006-12-07 Thread Pete Connolly

On Thursday 07 December 2006 13:45, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On my laptop I just started getting this error below about 3 weeks ago.  I
> have tried to track it down, but I have been unsuccessfule.  The message
> in the log is...
>
> Dec  6 06:33:35 blg kernel: ide: failed opcode was: 0xef
>
>
> This is the last message in logs and then I am not able to close any
> windows in KDE or write to the HD.  The only way to get things to work is
> a power off.  I have been unable to track down what is causing this
> problem.  It can happen from an hour to 6 days.  That is the longest I
> have made it.  I have another laptop which is almost exactly the same and
> it never happens.  Any ideas on how to find the cause?  I do notice that
> the machine near the right side of the keyboard some times is a bit warm,
> but I am not sure if that is the problem.  If the machine is hung and I go
> to one of my X-terms on the machine I quicly find out that it is hung.  An
> other symtom is the clock in the lower right conner stops advancing.  Also
> the repeat on the arrow keys stops functioning.
>
> Thanks,
>
If the drive is SMART capable, it might be an idea to install smartmontools, 
enable monitoring on the drive and see if the temp. is fluctuating 
beforehand.  You should find lots of info in /var/log/messages..

Cheers

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Re: [opensuse] On my SUSE linux 10.1 kernel: ide: failed opcode was 0xef

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Pete Connolly wrote:
> On Thursday 07 December 2006 13:45, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
> >
> > On my laptop I just started getting this error below about 3 weeks ago.  I
> > have tried to track it down, but I have been unsuccessfule.  The message
> > in the log is...
> >
> > Dec  6 06:33:35 blg kernel: ide: failed opcode was: 0xef
> >
> If the drive is SMART capable, it might be an idea to install smartmontools,
> enable monitoring on the drive and see if the temp. is fluctuating
> beforehand.  You should find lots of info in /var/log/messages..

They are and I do not get any messages there only the one above.  That is
why this is so frustrating.

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Re: [opensuse] On my SUSE linux 10.1 kernel: ide: failed opcode was 0xef

2006-12-07 Thread Pete Connolly

On Thursday 07 December 2006 14:21, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Pete Connolly wrote:
> > On Thursday 07 December 2006 13:45, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
> > > On my laptop I just started getting this error below about 3 weeks ago.
> > >  I have tried to track it down, but I have been unsuccessfule.  The
> > > message in the log is...
> > >
> > > Dec  6 06:33:35 blg kernel: ide: failed opcode was: 0xef
> >
> > If the drive is SMART capable, it might be an idea to install
> > smartmontools, enable monitoring on the drive and see if the temp. is
> > fluctuating beforehand.  You should find lots of info in
> > /var/log/messages..
>
> They are and I do not get any messages there only the one above.  That is
> why this is so frustrating.
>
> Thanks,
>
Very strange.  Have you tried just doing a smartctl -H /dev/ to check 
it's health?  Or maybe seeing it capabilities with smartctl -c /dev/?  
Just to see if smart can do useful things will it.

Cheers

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Re: [opensuse] Multiple DNS servers in /etc/resolv.conf (SOLVED)

2006-12-07 Thread Sylvester Lykkehus

Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
> Seth Arnold wrote:
>   
>> On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 12:17:36AM +0100, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> How on earth do i get around this, and why does it seem that both
>>> nameservers are not queried ?
>>> 
>>>   
>> The easiest solution I've found to this problem is to use pdns-recursor,
>> which is available via the build service:
>>
>> http://repos.opensuse.org/server:/dns/
>>
>> Add the .repo file corresponding to your distribution to yast or smart
>> and install pdns-recursor.
>>
>> Edit /etc/resolv.conf to use only one nameserver 127.0.0.1
>>
>> Use the pdns_recursor --config option to generate a blank config template.
>> Edit the config file as you see fit. You probably won't need to change
>> anything.
>> Add an appropriate line like this:
>> forward-zones=int.wirex.com=10.30.0.15,suse.cz=10.20.0.2
>>
>> This says that queries ending in .int.wirex.com go to DNS server at
>> 10.30.0.15, queries ending in .suse.cz go to server 10.20.0.2.
>>
>> I've been thrilled by my new DNS experience. :)
>>   
>> 
> Hi Seth,
>
> Seems very interesting, and sounds exactly like what I was looking for.
> I will test this out at first opportunity I get, and post the results :-)
>
> Best regards
> Sylvester Lykkehus
>   
As promised, my results.

I followed Seth's instructions, and added
forward-zones=company.net=10.12.1.2 to the /etc/pdns/recursor.conf

Now I am able to look up both intranet hostnames and internet hostnames
, and route them through ppp0 and eth0 respectively.

Thanks!

/Sylvester


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[opensuse] NonOSS Addon missing

2006-12-07 Thread Kaare Rasmussen

While torrenting the DVD and the language add on, I have time to ask why Non 
OSS Add on for i386 can't be found

Is it just delayed?

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Re: [opensuse] NonOSS Addon missing

2006-12-07 Thread Frank Sundermeyer

On Thursday 07 December 2006 15:55, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

Hi,

> While torrenting the DVD and the language add on, I have time to ask
> why Non OSS Add on for i386 can't be found

please try:

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.2-GM-Addon-NonOSS-BiArch.torrent

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Re: [opensuse] NonOSS Addon missing

2006-12-07 Thread Mike

I think there are just bad links on the download page.  Look directly in the 
CD directory, there is a BiArch addon CD.  I assume this contains both x86 
variants.

mike.

On Thursday 07 December 2006 09:55, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
> While torrenting the DVD and the language add on, I have time to ask why
> Non OSS Add on for i386 can't be found
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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done

2006-12-07 Thread Lake-Wind

Carlos E. R. wrote:
> I keep all of mine - I do read them and point (RTFM) people to them ;-)
> 
> In fact, I no longer buy the DVD because the paper admin book is no longer 
> included: ie, just for that single reason.
> 

I also keep all of my manuals, still refer to them often and
stopped buying the boxed set when the admin  manual was no
longer included. I read the manual regularly, including at
night when I go to bed. My wife reads a novel, I read the SUSE
admin manual (some light reading before bed). :-)

I feel that Novell should publish the manual and sell it
separately, as previously suggested (on demand publishing). I
would ALWAYS buy the admin manual from them. As it stands now,
I just wait and buy books as they are published, like the SUSE
10 Bible which I recently bought at a local bookstore. It's
not as good as the admin manual was but it helps fill the
void. To me, the PDF's are useless. I don't look at them. I
don't like to read books on my computer I want a physical
book in my hands that I can take to the waiting room of my
doctors office, to bed, to the bathroom, to my easy chair,
etc... and read!

Lets face it, Novell did this to save money NOT to save a
tree! There's nothing wrong with them wanting to save money
but not by cutting out one of the best reasons to buy the
boxed set. If everyone was so concerned about saving trees,
then bookstores and publishing companies would go out of
business. I don't see that happening anytime soon. Trees are a
renewable resource and that reasoning is just ridiculous.

I won't buy another boxed set of SUSE until the admin manual
is shipped with it, in book form again as it should be. The
admin manual was the biggest reason for me to buy SUSE Linux
Pro. I had no problem paying for the boxed set when it was
included. Sure Microsoft no longer ships manuals with Windows
but why should Novell sink to Microsoft's level?

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Re: [opensuse] NonOSS Addon missing

2006-12-07 Thread Kaare Rasmussen

> please try:
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.2-GM
>-Addon-NonOSS-BiArch.torrent

I'm already doing that but perhaps someone wants to change the link.

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Re: [opensuse] NonOSS Addon missing

2006-12-07 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)

Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
> On Thursday 07 December 2006 15:55, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
>
>   
>> While torrenting the DVD and the language add on, I have time to ask
>> why Non OSS Add on for i386 can't be found
>> 
>
> please try:
>
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.2-GM-Addon-NonOSS-BiArch.torrent
>
>   
According to http://en.opensuse.org/Released_Version  the non oss addon
is already included in the DVD.  He shouldn't need to get it
additionally or am I missing something?

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done


On 12/7/06, Lake-Wind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I feel that Novell should publish the manual and sell it
separately, as previously suggested (on demand publishing). I
would ALWAYS buy the admin manual from them. As it stands now,
I just wait and buy books as they are published, like the SUSE
10 Bible which I recently bought at a local bookstore. It's
not as good as the admin manual was but it helps fill the
void.


Well, there is always Novell Press and they do publish SLES stuff. I
think the Firewalls one is the one that used to be published by New
Riders. I may be wrong.

http://www.novell.com/training/books/bookcat.html?cat=Administration&val=bookAdm

I never found the SUSE bible or Apress books of any use.



Lets face it, Novell did this to save money NOT to save a
tree! There's nothing wrong with them wanting to save money
but not by cutting out one of the best reasons to buy the
boxed set. If everyone was so concerned about saving trees,
then bookstores and publishing companies would go out of
business. I don't see that happening anytime soon. Trees are a
renewable resource and that reasoning is just ridiculous.


I do seem to think that the boxed editions went down in price when
they cheapend them up by pulling the durable CD holders and books. I
think it used to be over $100 candaian with them, now it's down to
under $60 or $70. So it is a little cheaper.((I am not sure about any
of these retail prices -- just from my bad memory)


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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done

On 12/7/06, Patrick Shanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

* James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-07-06 07:41]:
> Windows manuals are good for placing under a table leg, to keep the
> table from rocking.  ;-)

Must be the only thing they are good for.  I put several out back in
the three-holer seven or eight years ago and they are still there  :^).

That's like that old saying, "The only good thing about an Eagles
record is that it keeps the dust off your record player". :-)

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done


Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 12:37 -0500, Robert Cunningham wrote:
  

I also miss getting the SuSE  lapel pins, T-shirts, and stickers.
my T-shirt  is getting pretty worn out  and want an new sticker for my
work computer



I really think the stickers would be great. I always take the MS
stickers off computers we use. It would be nice to replace them with a
SUSE/Linux tag that stays on. Don't underestimate subtle advertising.

  
A few years ago, a friend of mine peeled a "Ready for Windows 95" 
sticker off a monitor and stuck it on the toilet.  ;-)


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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done


Lake-Wind wrote:

I won't buy another boxed set of SUSE until the admin manual
is shipped with it, in book form again as it should be. The
admin manual was the biggest reason for me to buy SUSE Linux
Pro. I had no problem paying for the boxed set when it was
included. Sure Microsoft no longer ships manuals with Windows
but why should Novell sink to Microsoft's level?


I can only think of 348 million reasons...

Just kiddin'...

I miss the printed Admin guide too, although my PDF collection of books 
is probably 100 times bigger than my collection of printed books...


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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done

2006-12-07 Thread Stelian Iancu

On Thursday 07 December 2006 16:51, Geir A. Myrestrand wrote:
> I miss the printed Admin guide too, although my PDF collection of books
> is probably 100 times bigger than my collection of printed books...
>

By the way, do you know of any "print-at-request" web site (preferably in 
Germany or Switzerland) that will let you upload a PDF and will send you a 
printed book? I think lulu.com does this, but it's in the States and I 
suppose the transport fees to Europe are quite big.

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Re: [opensuse] Is There a (Non-Enterprise) Commercial SuSE Linux 10.2 Product?

On Wednesday 06 December 2006 22:40, Kalos Bonasia wrote:
> ...
>
> I prefer the commercial version, when Novell will publish it?

The word from the horse's mouth (one of the horses' mouths, anyway) is 
that it's going into production now and should reach 
retailers "shelves" (some of those shelves being virtual, presumably) 
by the mid-December time frame.

From today's posting to openSUSE-Announce:

-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
openSUSE 10.2 will be offered as boxed product in Europe through retail 
as usual. In North America the  box will be available through 
http://www.shopnovell.com. Due to production lead time first boxes will 
show up on shelves and onlineshops mid of December.
-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-


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Re: [opensuse] On my SUSE linux 10.1 kernel: ide: failed opcode was 0xef

2006-12-07 Thread Carl Hartung

On Thursday 07 December 2006 09:45, Pete Connolly wrote:

> Very strange.  Have you tried just doing a smartctl -H /dev/ to
> check it's health?  Or maybe seeing it capabilities with smartctl -c
> /dev/? Just to see if smart can do useful things will it.

Another approach is to check the drive manufacturer's website for downloadable 
diagnostic tools that can be run from a floppy or CD.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done


Stelian Iancu wrote:
By the way, do you know of any "print-at-request" web site (preferably in 
Germany or Switzerland) that will let you upload a PDF and will send you a 
printed book? I think lulu.com does this, but it's in the States and I 
suppose the transport fees to Europe are quite big.


You may save more by using a "low-cost" country like China, see for 
example http://www.hxbookprinting.com. I have no experience with them or 
others though.


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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done

2006-12-07 Thread Carl William Spitzer IV

On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 10:15 +0100, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:


> I want manuals too. But I don't want the ordinary "simple" manual, "getting 
> started" (whatever) that's usually in the box.
> I want a real thick brick filled with hi-tech details and how-tos. That's too 
> expensive to print, of course. So, as a paying user, let me have the envelope 
> and a voucher with a code on, to let me download/on-line read the real thick 
> tech manual. Let that be what I pay for. And let me be able to pay for actual 
> real support too.

Either that or like Redhat let a book publisher handle all the manuals.
Or with a permission goto the local copy shop and have them produce it
for you from a PDF.

As I remember the third party books are better anyway.

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[opensuse] Azureus Doesn't Like 10.2 GM DVD Torrent File

Hi,

I've tried twice, now, to initiate retrieval of the openSUSE 10.2 GM DVD 
image using the torrent at 

 
in Azureus. Both times Azureus rejected that torrent file, complaining 
that it "could not be opened" because of a "IO Error: BDecoder: unknown 
command '150, remainder =", which was followed by a lot of gibberish, 
presumably binary data being printed as  text to the alert Azureus 
displayed.


However, I used "wget" to retrieve the same torrent URL and gave that 
file to Azureus and it accepted it without complaint.


What's up with all that?


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Re: [opensuse] Azureus Doesn't Like 10.2 GM DVD Torrent File

On Thursday 07 December 2006 08:27, you wrote:
> On 07/12/06 17:22, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > I've tried twice, now, to initiate retrieval of the openSUSE 10.2
> > GM DVD image using the torrent at
> >  >E-10.2-GM-DVD-i386.torrent> in Azureus. Both times Azureus rejected
> > that torrent file, complaining that it "could not be opened"
> > because of a "IO Error: BDecoder: unknown command '150, remainder
> > =", which was followed by a lot of gibberish, presumably binary
> > data being printed as  text to the alert Azureus displayed.
>
> Did you use the "Add URL" mechanism?

Of course. I've done this many times before.


>  Hoper (aka QED)


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[opensuse] Do The Add-On CDs Duplicate The DVD?

Hi,

Is it still the case that the the contents of the add-on CDs is already 
part of the DVD?

Thanks.

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Re: [opensuse] Azureus Doesn't Like 10.2 GM DVD Torrent File


its workin fine here.

On 12/7/06, Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thursday 07 December 2006 08:27, you wrote:
> On 07/12/06 17:22, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > I've tried twice, now, to initiate retrieval of the openSUSE 10.2
> > GM DVD image using the torrent at
> >  >E-10.2-GM-DVD-i386.torrent> in Azureus. Both times Azureus rejected
> > that torrent file, complaining that it "could not be opened"
> > because of a "IO Error: BDecoder: unknown command '150, remainder
> > =", which was followed by a lot of gibberish, presumably binary
> > data being printed as  text to the alert Azureus displayed.
>
> Did you use the "Add URL" mechanism?

Of course. I've done this many times before.


>  Hoper (aka QED)


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Re: [opensuse] Do The Add-On CDs Duplicate The DVD?

2006-12-07 Thread Stelian Iancu

On Thursday 07 December 2006 17:41, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it still the case that the the contents of the add-on CDs is already
> part of the DVD?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Randall Schulz

Yes. From the opensuse webpage:

The DVD contains the packages of the 5 CDs and the Non-OSS Add On CD. The 
retail DVD being a double-layer contains more packages.

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Re: [opensuse] Azureus Doesn't Like 10.2 GM DVD Torrent File

2006-12-07 Thread ka1ifq

On Thursday 07 December 2006 11:22, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've tried twice, now, to initiate retrieval of the openSUSE 10.2 GM DVD
> image using the torrent at
> M-DVD-i386.torrent> in Azureus. Both times Azureus rejected that torrent
> file, complaining that it "could not be opened" because of a "IO Error:
> BDecoder: unknown command '150, remainder =", which was followed by a lot
> of gibberish, presumably binary data being printed as  text to the alert
> Azureus displayed.
>
> However, I used "wget" to retrieve the same torrent URL and gave that
> file to Azureus and it accepted it without complaint.
>
> What's up with all that?
>

I found this info in another posting, it worked for me, downloading now.

Not yet official:
i386 systems:
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-i386.torrent

X86-64 systems
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.torrent

Apple systems:
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-ppc.torrent

Dual layer DVD:
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD9-BiArch.torrent

Download is very good. Keep the upload open. I am downloading at 350kB/s
at this moment. That is about the festest download I have ever seen with
a torrent. There are peaks well over 400kB/s
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[opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

On Thursday 07 December 2006 08:44, you wrote:
> its workin fine here.

For god's sake, stop sending me direct replies.

You have to be subscribed to post, hence its always completely redundant 
to send a direct copy in a reply.

Desist!

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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] Release of openSUSE 10.2


Michael Loeffler a écrit :


* CDs 1-3 for a default KDE or GNOME installation in German or English


same for default gnome french

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[opensuse] Relese pointing to wrong SUSE version!

2006-12-07 Thread Kenneth Aar, Grafikern.no



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Re: [opensuse] Azureus Doesn't Like 10.2 GM DVD Torrent File

2006-12-07 Thread Anders Norrbring

ka1ifq skrev:

On Thursday 07 December 2006 11:22, Randall R Schulz wrote:

Hi,

I've tried twice, now, to initiate retrieval of the openSUSE 10.2 GM DVD
image using the torrent at
in Azureus. Both times Azureus rejected that torrent
file, complaining that it "could not be opened" because of a "IO Error:
BDecoder: unknown command '150, remainder =", which was followed by a lot
of gibberish, presumably binary data being printed as text to the alert
Azureus displayed.

However, I used "wget" to retrieve the same torrent URL and gave that
file to Azureus and it accepted it without complaint.

What's up with all that?

I found this info in another posting, it worked for me, downloading now.

Not yet official:
i386 systems:
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-i386.torrent

X86-64 systems
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.torrent

Apple systems:
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-ppc.torrent

Dual layer DVD:
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD9-BiArch.torrent

Download is very good. Keep the upload open. I am downloading at 350kB/s
at this moment. That is about the festest download I have ever seen with
a torrent. There are peaks well over 400kB/s

What makes you think those torrents aren't official? If they were meant
to be kept out of reach, then Eberhard would not have made them accessible.

Anders Norrbring
Norrbring Consulting

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done


Lake-Wind a écrit :


I feel that Novell should publish the manual and sell it
separately,


we could enphasize on the fact that the admin manual can be 
largely disconnected from the distribution itself. I still 
use the 9.0 I have just on the shelf behind me.


I mean, Novell don't have to make a new manual for each 
distro, may be just an addon


to make print cheaper :-)

jdd

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RE: [opensuse] Merged Lists?

2006-12-07 Thread Per Jessen

Greg Wallace wrote:

>>The Off-Topic list is about to be migrated, too. It was the only
>>straggler in the process.
> 
> Suse-oracle hasn't been migrated either.

What about suse-isdn?  I haven't been subscribed for a while, so I've
probably missed any announcements regarding the migration.




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[opensuse] cdparanoia / libcdda_paranoia: tons of syslog error messages

2006-12-07 Thread Joachim Schrod


Hello,

I'm using SUSE 10.0, and have SATA disks. My CD-ROM is accessed via 
the SCSI interface, too.


When I use cdparanoia to rip a CD, or when any application uses 
libcdda_paranoia from cdparanoia, I get thousands of syslog messages 
that read


kernel: sg_write: data in/out 30576/30576 bytes for SCSI command 
0xbe--guessing data in;

kernel:   program XXX not setting count and/or reply_len properly

where XXX is the program that uses the shared library. Of course, 
getting thousands of syslog messages during one rip is not 
appreciated by me. :-)


Googling around I found the following analysis
http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/paranoia/2005-July/001438.html
(without any answers) and the following remark on lkml:
http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2005-07/2603.html
So this is a problem that is caused by a change to the Linux kernel; 
it is known, but obviously remained in 10.0.


Do others get similar errors, or am I alone with that?
How about 10.1 / 10.2?
Can I prevent these syslog messages somehow?
Is there another version of libcdda_paranoia that implements a saner 
check, as explained in the LKML posting?

Or does a new kernel help?

Thanks in advance for any help,

Joachim

PS: For reference, the output of cdparanoia -vQ:

Checking /dev/cdrom for cdrom...
Testing /dev/cdrom for cooked ioctl() interface
/dev/sr0 is not a cooked ioctl CDROM.
Testing /dev/cdrom for SCSI interface

Found an accessible SCSI CDROM drive.
Looking at revision of the SG interface in use...
SG interface version 3.5.33; OK.

CDROM model sensed sensed: _NEC CD-ROM CD-3002B C500

Checking for SCSI emulation...
Drive is ATAPI (using SCSI host adaptor emulation)
Couldn't disable kernel command translation layer

Checking for MMC style command set...
Drive is MMC style
DMA scatter/gather table entries: 128
table entry size: 32768 bytes
maximum theoretical transfer: 1783 sectors
Setting default read size to 13 sectors (30576 bytes).

Verifying CDDA command set...
Expected command set reads OK.


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Re: [opensuse] Azureus Doesn't Like 10.2 GM DVD Torrent File

2006-12-07 Thread ka1ifq

On Thursday 07 December 2006 11:59, Anders Norrbring wrote:
> ka1ifq skrev:
> > On Thursday 07 December 2006 11:22, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I've tried twice, now, to initiate retrieval of the openSUSE 10.2 GM DVD
> >> image using the torrent at
> >>  >>2-G M-DVD-i386.torrent> in Azureus. Both times Azureus rejected that
> >> torrent file, complaining that it "could not be opened" because of a "IO
> >> Error: BDecoder: unknown command '150, remainder =", which was followed
> >> by a lot of gibberish, presumably binary data being printed as  text to
> >> the alert Azureus displayed.
> >>
> >> However, I used "wget" to retrieve the same torrent URL and gave that
> >> file to Azureus and it accepted it without complaint.
> >>
> >> What's up with all that?
> >
> > I found this info in another posting, it worked for me, downloading now.
> > Not yet official:
> > i386 systems:
> > ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.
> >2-GM-DVD-i386.torrent
> > X86-64 systems
> > ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.
> >2-GM-DVD-x86_64.torrent
> > Apple systems:
> > ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.
> >2-GM-DVD-ppc.torrent
> > Dual layer DVD:
> > ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.
> >2-GM-DVD9-BiArch.torrent
> > Download is very good. Keep the upload open. I am downloading at 350kB/s
> > at this moment. That is about the festest download I have ever seen with
> > a torrent. There are peaks well over 400kB/s
>
> What makes you think those torrents aren't official? If they were meant
> to be kept out of reach, then Eberhard would not have made them accessible.

 Um, ( from my original posting ( I found this info in another posting, it 
worked for me, downloading now.) ), I just cut/pasted from another posting I 
found to pass on the info, comment was from original poster, I do not know 
where he got the info or validity of the info.
 I was passing on the site info to the OP in hopes this would help him and 
others to find the new release.
 I enjoy Suse, I am downloading it now to install on a new machine, I will 
also be purchasing a boxed copy, my post / repost of another message was in 
no way intended to imply anything.

MsM
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[opensuse] Polish language packages

2006-12-07 Thread rzoolu

Hi,
at the bottom of http://download.opensuse.org site is the list of
non-tier 1 languages, but I can't see polish language code (pl). Is it
true? There is no polish language packages on Addon CD?

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[opensuse] Release of 10.2

2006-12-07 Thread Russbucket

I followed the links to http://en.opensuse.org/Download where there is an 
option to purchase a boxed version. That link still takes you to 10.1. Is 
there no way to pre order the boxed version? I understand it will not be 
available until mid December.

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Re: [opensuse] Do The Add-On CDs Duplicate The DVD?


Stelian Iancu wrote:

On Thursday 07 December 2006 17:41, Randall R Schulz wrote:
  

Hi,

Is it still the case that the the contents of the add-on CDs is already
part of the DVD?

Thanks.

Randall Schulz



Yes. From the opensuse webpage:

The DVD contains the packages of the 5 CDs and the Non-OSS Add On CD. The 
retail DVD being a double-layer contains more packages.
  


Are those packages available for download?

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Re: [opensuse] Do The Add-On CDs Duplicate The DVD?

2006-12-07 Thread Alexey Eremenko


The DVD contains the packages of the 5 CDs and the Non-OSS Add On CD. The
retail DVD being a double-layer contains more packages.


But it does not contain the additional languages CD.
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Re: [opensuse] Lenovo Suse Question

2006-12-07 Thread George Stoianov


On 12/6/06, M Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Some time back (August maybe) Lenovo committed to ship the T series ThinkPad
with SLED 10.

I went out to the Lenovo site to look at the Suse offerings and find that
Lenovo recommends XP professional... and I can't find the Suse pre-loaded
machine.


Yeah I use a ThinkPad R60 at work and checked the site at the time
looking for RAM specs and did not find the SuSE option, if it is there
it is well hidden, but I think I remeber a review on the net that said
you had to actually install but it is supported.

My R60 runs fine I have been having some issues with performance due
to low memory and suse 10.1 has not been the best so far in working as
I am used to with suse, anyway what I am saying is post here if you
have issues someone may have the answer already ;)



Did something change?   :-O


Do not think so, see this
http://www.hardwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/49 . Note their is a
guide on how to do the install.

greetings.
George




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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!


>Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 08:51:11 -0800
>From: Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: opensuse@opensuse.org
>Subject: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!
>
>On Thursday 07 December 2006 08:44, you wrote:
>> its workin fine here.
>
>For god's sake, stop sending me direct replies.
>
>You have to be subscribed to post, hence its always completely redundant 
>to send a direct copy in a reply.
>
>Desist!

Fix the mailing list.


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[opensuse] HOWTO Configure window open location and size

2006-12-07 Thread Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC)

When I power on my machine, I normally open a shell console, konqi, 
Mozilla Mail and KWrite. No problem so far.


The annoyance/'problem' comes in when I have to move the windows of each 
and decide if I would like it to fill only part or the full screen ie 
location and size of each app window. Each time I start the machine up 
and login I have to start each app and then decide on its size and location.


How/where can I get the respective windows to remember their locations 
and size. I would assume on each app window but have driven myself 
arounnd several bends trying to figure out which does what so some help 
would be appreciated.


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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 is done

2006-12-07 Thread John Andersen

On Thursday 07 December 2006 06:39, D Gavrilovic wrote:
> Well, there is always Novell Press and they do publish SLES stuff. I
> think the Firewalls one is the one that used to be published by New
> Riders. I may be wrong.

No, no, please not that.

The SUSE manuals are much more readable than any of the 
sawdust and breadcrumbs that ever came out of Novell Press.  

They would assign their usual uninterested drone to re-edit the
manuals and they would end up like all the rest the sand that
gets shoveled into the Novell Connections magazine.

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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

2006-12-07 Thread Michael Leuty


On 07/12/06, Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Fix the mailing list.


Yep. When I click on "Reply" in GMail, my reply is addressed to the
individual, not the list.

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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

2006-12-07 Thread Hoper Edei Deixai

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> For god's sake, stop sending me direct replies.
You're right, and I'm sorry to have done this stupid mistake, I hate too
this bad habit.
But why the hell the list manager doesn't set reply-to header to the
list? I've been member of many ML in ten years and recently I see that
this simple measure is no more taken. Is this to mitigate spamming?
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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

2006-12-07 Thread John Andersen

On Thursday 07 December 2006 09:40, Michael Leuty wrote:
> On 07/12/06, Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Fix the mailing list.
>
> Yep. When I click on "Reply" in GMail, my reply is addressed to the
> individual, not the list.

Fix gmail.

X-Mailinglist: opensuse
List-Post:    <<<
List-Help: 
List-Subscribe:  
List-Unsubscribe:  
List-Owner: 

KMail knows how to handle a list.

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Re: [opensuse] Merged Lists?

2006-12-07 Thread Henne Vogelsang

Hi,

On Thursday, December 07, 2006 at 18:07:00, Per Jessen wrote:
> Greg Wallace wrote:
> 
> >>The Off-Topic list is about to be migrated, too. It was the only
> >>straggler in the process.
> > 
> > Suse-oracle hasn't been migrated either.
> 
> What about suse-isdn?  I haven't been subscribed for a while, so I've
> probably missed any announcements regarding the migration.

opensuse-isdn-de

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-isdn-de/

Henne

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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

2006-12-07 Thread George Stoianov

On 12/7/06, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thursday 07 December 2006 09:40, Michael Leuty wrote:
> On 07/12/06, Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Fix the mailing list.

I think there was a discussion on this I do not remember all the
arguments but should be in the archives :). I am guilty of doing that
too by mistake or when I am in a hurry so sorry if you are offended by
it.
george

>
> Yep. When I click on "Reply" in GMail, my reply is addressed to the
> individual, not the list.

Fix gmail.

X-Mailinglist: opensuse
List-Post:    <<<
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List-Subscribe:  
List-Unsubscribe:  
List-Owner: 

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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

On Thursday 07 December 2006 10:44, Hoper Edei Deixai wrote:
> ...
> But why the hell the list manager doesn't set reply-to header to the
> list? I've been member of many ML in ten years and recently I see
> that this simple measure is no more taken. Is this to mitigate
> spamming? --

Because then people who want to use the Reply-To header, which belongs 
to message originators, _not_ list reflectors, cannot do so.


>   Hoper (aka QED)


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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

On Thursday 07 December 2006 10:59, you wrote:
> Hi, Randall.
>
> Your subject speaks as if you were making the rules.  Or maybe this
> is a rule already on this list?

Yes, it is.


> ...
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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

2006-12-07 Thread Hoper Edei Deixai

On 07/12/06 19:44, John Andersen wrote:
>>> Fix the mailing list.
>> Yep. When I click on "Reply" in GMail, my reply is addressed to the
>> individual, not the list.
> Fix gmail.
> 
> X-Mailinglist: opensuse
> List-Post:    <<<
> List-Help: 
> List-Subscribe:  
> List-Unsubscribe:  
> List-Owner: 
> 
> KMail knows how to handle a list.
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[opensuse] SUSE 10.2 installed

2006-12-07 Thread Matthew Stringer

I've been running 10.2 for over 3 hours now, installed without a hitch on my 
Dell laptop.

The whole set up just feels right, it's quicker than 10.1 too.

Even Zen is playing ball too.

A big thank you to all involved who help create this awesome distro.

Matthew

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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

2006-12-07 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard

Torsdag den 7. december 2006 20:00 skrev Randall R Schulz:
> On Thursday 07 December 2006 10:59, you wrote:
> > Hi, Randall.
> >
> > Your subject speaks as if you were making the rules.  Or maybe this
> > is a rule already on this list?
>
> Yes, it is.
>
> > ...

On a few occasions I accidently answered directly instead of the list.

I happened, because I use Kmail. When you click on "reply" you mean to reply 
to the list, but now and then this will cause the mail to go to the original 
sender, not the list.

The solution is to click'n'hold and then select "reply to list".

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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

2006-12-07 Thread Sunny

On 12/7/06, Verner Kjærsgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Torsdag den 7. december 2006 20:00 skrev Randall R Schulz:
> On Thursday 07 December 2006 10:59, you wrote:
> > Hi, Randall.
> >
> > Your subject speaks as if you were making the rules.  Or maybe this
> > is a rule already on this list?
>
> Yes, it is.
>
> > ...

On a few occasions I accidently answered directly instead of the list.

I happened, because I use Kmail. When you click on "reply" you mean to reply
to the list, but now and then this will cause the mail to go to the original
sender, not the list.

The solution is to click'n'hold and then select "reply to list".

Just press the "l" key as in list.

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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2 installed

On Thursday 07 December 2006 11:06, Matthew Stringer wrote:
> I've been running 10.2 for over 3 hours now, installed without a
> hitch on my Dell laptop.

Wow. You've got a fast pipe, or something. I started retrieving the DVD 
torrent just under three hours ago and I'm now at the 58% mark, which 
is actually much faster than the torrents have proceeded for the alpha5 
torrent and the beta1 through RC1 delta ISOs.

> The whole set up just feels right, it's quicker than 10.1 too.
>
> Even Zen is playing ball too.

Careful! Don't jinx it!!

> A big thank you to all involved who help create this awesome distro.
>
> Matthew

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Re: [opensuse] On my SUSE linux 10.1 kernel: ide: failed opcode was 0xef

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Carl Hartung wrote:
> On Thursday 07 December 2006 09:45, Pete Connolly wrote:
> 
> > Very strange.  Have you tried just doing a smartctl -H /dev/ to
> > check it's health?  Or maybe seeing it capabilities with smartctl -c
> > /dev/? Just to see if smart can do useful things will it.
>
> Another approach is to check the drive manufacturer's website for downloadable
> diagnostic tools that can be run from a floppy or CD.

I have the problem on the same computer with any one of 4 newly purchased
HD's.  I can move them to the other lappy's and they never fail.  On
yesterday's 6:00-6:30 AM failure I turned off HT support in the BIOS.  I
have not tried it this way.  This has been going on with 10.1 for 6-8
weeks.  When I run the utilites before failure everything works great.
But after the failure when I try to run them the machine just hangs and
the only message it the one posted.  Really strange.

Thanks,

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Re: [opensuse] don't set Reply-to!! (was NO PERSONAL REPLIES...)

2006-12-07 Thread Carlos F Lange

On Thursday 07 December 2006 11:44, Hoper Edei Deixai wrote:
> But why the hell the list manager doesn't set reply-to header to the
> list?

It should not be set. 
Everyone that managed a mailing-list long enough knows what happens when 
Reply-To is set to the list and the vacation season comes. Someone sets 
those automatic replies telling you that they are at some beach and 
will return a month later. The response goes to the list and starts an 
infinite loop. Adding to that, list members start sending replies to 
the list asking why are they getting those replies and each one 
triggers a new reply from the guy and we all go crazy, while he is 
sleeping in a hammock drinking caipirinha. Oh, and this usually happens 
on a Friday, when all list admins also left for a deserved weekend 
break...

Carlos FL
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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

On Thursday 07 December 2006 11:13, François Pinard wrote:
> [Randall R Schulz]
>
> >On Thursday 07 December 2006 10:59, you wrote:
> >> Your subject speaks as if you were making the rules.  Or maybe
> >> this is a rule already on this list?
> >
> >Yes, it is.
>
> Would you be kind enough to give me a reference for this statement
> (originating from the list maintainers or owners)?

Of course not, since you persist in flouting my explicit request not to 
get mail on list topics sent directly to me.

RRS
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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

2006-12-07 Thread kanenas

On Thursday 07 December 2006 09:09, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
> Torsdag den 7. december 2006 20:00 skrev Randall R Schulz:
> > On Thursday 07 December 2006 10:59, you wrote:
> > > Hi, Randall.
> > >
> > > Your subject speaks as if you were making the rules.  Or maybe this
> > > is a rule already on this list?
> >
> > Yes, it is.
> >
> > > ...
>
> On a few occasions I accidently answered directly instead of the list.
>
> I happened, because I use Kmail. When you click on "reply" you mean to
> reply to the list, but now and then this will cause the mail to go to the
> original sender, not the list.
>
> The solution is to click'n'hold and then select "reply to list".
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Med venlig hilsen/Best regards
> Verner Kjærsgaard
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Re: [opensuse] NonOSS Addon missing

2006-12-07 Thread jfweber

On Thu December 7 2006 9:55 am, Kaare Rasmussen skratched these words onto 
a coconut shell, hoping for an answer:
> While torrenting the DVD and the language add on, I have time to ask
> why Non OSS Add on for i386 can't be found
>
> Is it just delayed?
>
We seem to have the slowest torrents going in a long time. I started the 
GM download at 10 Ayem Eastern Standard time today, presently it says it 
will take 4days 1:00 to finish... 
OTH I *do* seem to be able to try and get the non OSS cd to think about 
rocketing down thru the electrons.  It says it will take 2:23:00 hrs to 
finish, started it at noon when the GM seemed to be permanently stalled. 

When I downloaded the RC1 two days ago, it got the main DVD in less than 
10 min, and the OSS cd was done before I finished the go"button push." 
Got a fat pipe, usually. So this stuff is maddening, and makes me worry 
that the media will not be fully downloaded and I shall have to begin 
again in , uh, 4 days... assuming the GM is still up. 

Boxes, on the store shelves, pretty boxes in a row.. or some sort of 
lyrics like that.. c'mon santa, you can do it.. Suse/OpenSuse for Xmas, 
YES!!

And for those who complain about the trees, there are now papers, as well 
as jut about everything else made from bamboo, a self renewing resource. 
New breeds of trees w/ fast growth, only used for paper ... and they are 
regrown completely in 10 years. very tall very skinny , paper in a tube 
shape. Just don't put a paper mill down wind of the population! They will 
think we are under some form of gas attack.

A paper mill can make a diaper pail smell like fresh cut roses ! ( And 
that is no small feat in itself. ) Still as long as paper has enough rag 
content it is almost fully recycle-able to make more paper. 

And it feels good to write on w/ a fountain pen. Those were part of early 
word processors. ;-D
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[opensuse] Elementary Device Info Question

2006-12-07 Thread Greg Wallace

I feel pretty stupid asking such an elementary question, but don't know how
to look it up.  What command will tell me the block size of a given hard
drive?  It could also be a command that gives it to me for all drives but I
really only need it for a particular one right now (/dev/sda5), though one
that would list all drives and their attributes would probably be more
useful long term.

Thanks,
Greg Wallace

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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2 installed

2006-12-07 Thread Janne Karhunen

On Thursday 07 December 2006 21:13, Randall R Schulz wrote:

> > Even Zen is playing ball too.
>
> Careful! Don't jinx it!!

For an hour now it's been trying to get past 'preparing software'
on this RC1 box.  You may wish to call it many things, but fast 
and efficient is not the right word. But it's getting better.
Improvement over 10.1 is .. HUGE.

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Re: [opensuse] HOWTO Configure window open location and size

2006-12-07 Thread Kenneth Schneider

On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 17:00 +0200, Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) wrote:
> When I power on my machine, I normally open a shell console, konqi, 
> Mozilla Mail and KWrite. No problem so far.
> 
> The annoyance/'problem' comes in when I have to move the windows of each 
> and decide if I would like it to fill only part or the full screen ie 
> location and size of each app window. Each time I start the machine up 
> and login I have to start each app and then decide on its size and location.
> 
> How/where can I get the respective windows to remember their locations 
> and size. I would assume on each app window but have driven myself 
> arounnd several bends trying to figure out which does what so some help 
> would be appreciated.
> 

Right click on the banner bar at the top and select "Configure Window
Behavior". Change the settings to your taste.

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Re: [opensuse] NonOSS Addon missing

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu December 7 2006 9:55 am, Kaare Rasmussen skratched these words onto
> a coconut shell, hoping for an answer:
> > While torrenting the DVD and the language add on, I have time to ask
> > why Non OSS Add on for i386 can't be found
> >
> > Is it just delayed?
> >
> We seem to have the slowest torrents going in a long time. I started the
> GM download at 10 Ayem Eastern Standard time today, presently it says it
> will take 4days 1:00 to finish...
> OTH I *do* seem to be able to try and get the non OSS cd to think about
> rocketing down thru the electrons.  It says it will take 2:23:00 hrs to
> finish, started it at noon when the GM seemed to be permanently stalled.
>
> When I downloaded the RC1 two days ago, it got the main DVD in less than
> 10 min, and the OSS cd was done before I finished the go"button push."
> Got a fat pipe, usually. So this stuff is maddening, and makes me worry
> that the media will not be fully downloaded and I shall have to begin
> again in , uh, 4 days... assuming the GM is still up.

Mine was really fast.  Use http://en.opensuse.org/Metalinks, It is lighter
on system resources and can also use torrents.


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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

2006-12-07 Thread Sylvester Lykkehus

Hoper Edei Deixai wrote:
> On 07/12/06 19:44, John Andersen wrote:
>   
 Fix the mailing list.
 
>>> Yep. When I click on "Reply" in GMail, my reply is addressed to the
>>> individual, not the list.
>>>   
>> Fix gmail.
>>
>> X-Mailinglist: opensuse
>> List-Post:    <<<
>> List-Help: 
>> List-Subscribe:  
>> List-Unsubscribe:  
>> List-Owner: 
>>
>> KMail knows how to handle a list.
>> 
> Not Thunderbird nor any webmail client.
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>
>   Hoper (aka QED)
>   
Thunderbird extension (for SUSE patched thunderbird)
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-11/msg03582.html

The link for the .xpi is currently dead, but google should be able to
pick it up on keyword: replytolist-0.2.0.xpi

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Re: [opensuse] On my SUSE linux 10.1 kernel: ide: failed opcode was 0xef

2006-12-07 Thread Thomas Hertweck

Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
> On my laptop I just started getting this error below about 3 weeks ago.  I
> have tried to track it down, but I have been unsuccessfule.  The message
> in the log is...
> 
> Dec  6 06:33:35 blg kernel: ide: failed opcode was: 0xef
> 
> This is the last message in logs and then I am not able to close any
> windows in KDE or write to the HD.  The only way to get things to work is
> a power off.  I have been unable to track down what is causing this
> problem.  It can happen from an hour to 6 days.  That is the longest I
> have made it.  I have another laptop which is almost exactly the same and
> it never happens.  Any ideas on how to find the cause?  I do notice that
> the machine near the right side of the keyboard some times is a bit warm,
> but I am not sure if that is the problem.  If the machine is hung and I go
> to one of my X-terms on the machine I quicly find out that it is hung.  An
> other symtom is the clock in the lower right conner stops advancing.  Also
> the repeat on the arrow keys stops functioning.

It might be completely unrelated, but you never know... I have similar
problems on one of my laptops running SuSE 10.0. The problems started
some weeks ago. Sometimes, I recognise that the "load" starts to
increase (xosview is running all the time) - from this point on, I am
no longer able to close windows or switch to other desktops. The mouse
is still working. If the focus is on a terminal window, I can still
enter a command and press "return" but nothing happens. The load is
increasing to about 25 and then more or less everything stops working
(keyboard no longer responding, etc.). There is no information in
/var/log/messages. I've checked memory with  memtest86 over night: no
problems. I've check the disk with the manufacturer's disk tool (it's a
WD disk): no problems. I haven't been able to figure out the trigger for
those problems. It might happen any time. The only solution is a power
off. Other laptops here (also SuSE 10.0) work without such problems...

Cheers, Th.
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Re: [opensuse] Elementary Device Info Question


Greg Wallace wrote:

I feel pretty stupid asking such an elementary question, but don't know how
to look it up.  What command will tell me the block size of a given hard
drive?  It could also be a command that gives it to me for all drives but I
really only need it for a particular one right now (/dev/sda5), though one
that would list all drives and their attributes would probably be more
useful long term.


blockdev from the util-linux package.

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Re: [opensuse] HOWTO Configure window open location and size

2006-12-07 Thread Don Raboud

On Thursday 07 December 2006 08:00, Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) wrote:

> How/where can I get the respective windows to remember their locations
> and size. I would assume on each app window but have driven myself
> arounnd several bends trying to figure out which does what so some help
> would be appreciated.

Under KDE, right click on a window title bar, chose Advanced and then special 
window settings (or special application settings), whatever seems 
appropriate.

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Re: [opensuse] Elementary Device Info Question


Geir A. Myrestrand wrote:

Greg Wallace wrote:

one
that would list all drives and their attributes would probably be more
useful long term.


For that purpose you could use `hwinfo --disk`.


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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

2006-12-07 Thread Thomas Hertweck

Hoper Edei Deixai wrote:
> [...]
> Not Thunderbird nor any webmail client.

Please don't start this discussion again. Thunderbird has an extension
which provides a list-reply functionality. See the November archive of
this list for details (threads named "Seamonkey 1.0.6 rpm?" and
"Thunderbird reply to list feature").

Cheers, Th.
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Re: [opensuse] Elementary Device Info Question

On Thursday 07 December 2006 11:22, Greg Wallace wrote:
> I feel pretty stupid asking such an elementary question, but don't
> know how to look it up.  What command will tell me the block size of
> a given hard drive?  It could also be a command that gives it to me
> for all drives but I really only need it for a particular one right
> now (/dev/sda5), though one that would list all drives and their
> attributes would probably be more useful long term.

I am curious if there are any magnetic drives in common use today (say, 
IDE-, SATA -, SCSI-, FireWire- or USB-connected and 15,000 RPM or less) 
whose native sector size is anything other than 512 bytes?


> Thanks,
> Greg Wallace


Randall Schulz
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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

2006-12-07 Thread jfweber

On Thu December 7 2006 2:18 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] skratched these 
words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer:
> On Thursday 07 December 2006 09:09, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
> > Torsdag den 7. december 2006 20:00 skrev Randall R Schulz:
> > > On Thursday 07 December 2006 10:59, you wrote:
> > > > Hi, Randall.
> > > >
> > > > Your subject speaks as if you were making the rules.  Or maybe
> > > > this is a rule already on this list?
> > >
> > > Yes, it is.
> > >
> > > > ...
> >
> > On a few occasions I accidently answered directly instead of the
> > list.
> >
> > I happened, because I use Kmail. When you click on "reply" you mean
> > to reply to the list, but now and then this will cause the mail to go
> > to the original sender, not the list.
> >
> > The solution is to click'n'hold and then select "reply to list".
> >


>
> Kmail has a "reply to list" button that you can drag to the toolbar.
 OR, you could just hit the "r" button, w/p the " marks of course.. works 
in Kmail w/o fail.
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Re: [opensuse] HOWTO Configure window open location and size