Re: [opensuse-factory] What did you guys do to /etc/fstab?
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Re: [opensuse-factory] FYI: Freetype is broken in FACTORY
Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FYI: Current freetype in FACTORY is broken, use the version from Alpha4 instead of updating, The package checked in last night should fix everything, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpErCubwgvjR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] kernel update brake the boot
jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are probably already informed :-), but the last 10.2 kernel update brake the computer boot... Did you install the new perl-bootloader as well? If there are problems, please open a bugreport with all details, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpWcHJ0Jk9O6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner needs overhaul...
On Wednesday 23 May 2007, M9. wrote: I am just ready with the install of Alpha4... I changed everything i needed to: /boot from 30MB 100MB / , 1GB, same /usr, from 3.5 4GB /var ,1GB, same, but added: /var/lib, 1GB,(lib was the cause:400MB) /opt, 2.5GB same, /tmp, 2GB, was 3GB. swap, something like rest: about approx.374MB. /home, 20GB, /shared, 42GB. But LVM did not work for me, i added everything manualy with the other partitioner, simpeler for me... Now we'll see how long it lasts ;-) Do i see a hangover from Slowaris there so many un-needed partitions just clutzing the system up and to what gain a nano second or so somewhere is it really worth all the hassle of setting up i dont think so . What form of real time super computing are you doing that makes you think a nano second here and ther are that important ? .. Most Reiserfs problems that i have had have been down to faulty hardware cheap hard disk construction not meant to run 24/7 as these boxes here do hardware manafacturers have got the windBloZe state of mind these days boot the system type a letter shut the system down need to do another letter reboot the system . Pete . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] kernel update brake the boot
Marcus Meissner wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 09:45:53AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are probably already informed :-), but the last 10.2 kernel update brake the computer boot... Did you install the new perl-bootloader as well? If there are problems, please open a bugreport with all details, The new bootloader should have been pulled in automatically due to Prerequires. The perl-Bootloader just still has flaws. I don't even know what is this about? I installed 10.2 (box) and all updates. I had the same problem with the previous update, but couldn't report The boot loader is GRUB, and thanks to it's boot console I could fix the problem jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://gourmandises.orangeblog.fr/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] kernel update brake the boot
Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 09:45:53AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are probably already informed :-), but the last 10.2 kernel update brake the computer boot... Did you install the new perl-bootloader as well? If there are problems, please open a bugreport with all details, The new bootloader should have been pulled in automatically due to Prerequires. The perl-Bootloader just still has flaws. Too bad - this means we need a bugreport and another round of testing and fixing :-( Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpyCPurNfnnG.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] Alpha 4 DOS Partition ?
Hello, I can't install Alpha 4 on a System with a small (500MB) DOS Partition on /dev/sda1 ? The new installer like to resize the Partition. When I go to manual partitioning I have only EVMS Drives, after reformat the DOS partition to a swap Partition I can install Alpha 4 and I found all my partition in YaST2 Partitioning ? Is this a known Problem ? -- mit freundlichen Grüssen / best Regards Günther J. Niederwimmer - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Grub-entries, partitioning differences between 10.2 10.3.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M9. schreef: I must say that it is very difficult to handle, because when an entry in grub does not work, because 10.2 reads different as 10.3, it is impossible to mount a 10.3 ext2 /boot partition, in the 10.2 partitioner. This way the working entry can not be copied, and placed into the grub. (and i do not know it from my head) So i have an unusable 10.3 sitting there.. does someone know a hack to mount this partition anyway? in the 10.2 grub is written: title openSUSE 10.3 (/dev/hdd7) It is the second hdd, is called now /dev/sdb, or what? then i know to call it /dev/sdd7, so it will work.. thnx - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-03-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 release 45.4 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGVJBmX5/X5X6LpDgRAhyAAKCDitCc8I7DJjEWw6zRI0+r+9N1GQCgswOt wfKvgSMTkbykhXD5ijtdWCg= =ZbZj -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Grub-entries, partitioning differences between 10.2 10.3.
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 14:05, M9. wrote: M9. schreef: I must say that it is very difficult to handle, because when an entry in grub does not work, because 10.2 reads different as 10.3, it is impossible to mount a 10.3 ext2 /boot partition, in the 10.2 partitioner. This way the working entry can not be copied, and placed into the grub. (and i do not know it from my head) So i have an unusable 10.3 sitting there.. does someone know a hack to mount this partition anyway? in the 10.2 grub is written: title openSUSE 10.3 (/dev/hdd7) It is the second hdd, is called now /dev/sdb, or what? then i know to call it /dev/sdd7, so it will work.. thnx Look in thread kernel update brake the boot by jdd from Tuesday. My second mail offers solution how to boot 10.3 from 10.2 boot loader. It works here. -- Regards, Rajko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Cache Problem (I think)
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[opensuse] apache2 with ssl and svn
I can get a lot of howtos for setting up the above on debian and ubuntu - does anyone have a nice site for openSUSE 10.2? ps. where can I get apache2-ssl-certificate, its not installed with apache. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: SSH Login Message
Bob wrote: I actually systems. The test one that I configure for LDAP a few months ago doesn't do this. It is the production one that does now so I can compared config files between the 2 systems. The syslog config on both systems are the same. Nevertheless, try to comment out the four lines destination console { file(/dev/tty10group(tty) perm(0620)); }; log { source(src); filter(f_console); destination(console); }; destination xconsole { pipe(/dev/xconsole group(tty) perm(0400)); }; log { source(src); filter(f_console); destination(xconsole); }; in /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf, call rcsyslog reload, and see if that changes the situation. In an appliance, you don't need logging to consoles anyhow. If you're on 10.[01], you might want to do an equivalent change to /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf.in as well. Otherwise syslog upgrades may break. AFAIK, this is not necessary on 10.2. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Wanna umask inhereted from parent directory
Fajar Priyanto wrote: I do the same in Opensuse. But, the file created in the directory have the permission: -rw-r--r-- 1 geecko sales 4 2007-05-23 09:17 filegeecko (notice the rw-r--r--). This permission makes other user in sales group cannot edit geecko's file. User geecko has to specifically set the permission to 664 on the file. How do I achive the default umask inhereted from the parent directory? I read some suggestions from google to adjust the global default umask, but I think it's a bit risky, or is it the only way? Phil answered your question how to enable the RH behavior by setting the umask globally. If you don't want to do this, there is the possibility to use access control lists (ACLs); the default ACL determines the access right of newly created files. I don't know if the global umask setting is sufficient for you, so I stop here with the explanation; ask, if you need more info. But note: both methods don't support changing the access rights of files that are created elsewhere, e.g., in a personal directory, and moved to the shared directory. (That's because moving doesn't create a file, it just changes the directory entry. (Reality is even more complex, but hopefully you'll see what I mean.)) Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Wanna umask inhereted from parent directory
Onsdag 23 maj 2007 09:49 skrev Joachim Schrod: Fajar Priyanto wrote: I do the same in Opensuse. But, the file created in the directory have the permission: -rw-r--r-- 1 geecko sales 4 2007-05-23 09:17 filegeecko (notice the rw-r--r--). This permission makes other user in sales group cannot edit geecko's file. User geecko has to specifically set the permission to 664 on the file. How do I achive the default umask inhereted from the parent directory? I read some suggestions from google to adjust the global default umask, but I think it's a bit risky, or is it the only way? Phil answered your question how to enable the RH behavior by setting the umask globally. If you don't want to do this, there is the possibility to use access control lists (ACLs); the default ACL determines the access right of newly created files. I don't know if the global umask setting is sufficient for you, so I stop here with the explanation; ask, if you need more info. But note: both methods don't support changing the access rights of files that are created elsewhere, e.g., in a personal directory, and moved to the shared directory. (That's because moving doesn't create a file, it just changes the directory entry. (Reality is even more complex, but hopefully you'll see what I mean.)) Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim SchrodEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedermark, Germany Hi, perhaps I don't understand your problem, but could you not just put umask 002 (or whatever you desire) into .bashrc in the /home/geecko directory? -- - Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User loses GNOME desktop (SuSE 10.0)
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 08:47 -0400, JP Rosevear wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 16:49 +1200, john wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 21:52 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote: john wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 21:39 -0400, James Knott wrote: John O'Gorman wrote: One user has a corrupted GNOME desktop. When he logs in, about 3 icons show, no task bar, no menus. Lots of error dialogue boxes pop up. Dozens of error messages: GConf Error: Adding client to server's l;ist failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 The book suggested renaning .gconf and .gnome2 (actually misprinted as ./gconf and ./gnome2). I did this. When the user logged in again, no change. All other users are OK. I added another user - OK also. This is not a show-stopper as he can use KDE instead and that still works. OS is SuSE 10.0. All the users are logging in on thin clients (LTSP Linux Terminal Server Project) which have worked fine for 5 years. If he deletes the directories containing the gnome stuff and logs in with gnome, he should be OK, though he'll have lost all his settings. That's what I thought we had done by mv'ing .gconf and .gnome2 I also mv'ed .gnome The dirs all got rebuilt but the bug remained. There must be some other dirs as well. Does anyone know what they are? John O'Gorman -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org How about .xinitrc? And this sounds a bit extreme, but on the presumption that this is the only user being affected, have you thought about tarballing his directory, deleting, and adding him again? Gulp yes! He has a vast amount of stuff (already safely squirreled away in another directory. I have shrunk from recreating him as a new user as I would then be left with the task of deciding how to selectively restore his old files. If you people cannot come up with a better notion, that is probably my next step. Try removing any /tmp/gconfd-user and /tmp/orbit-user files and see what happens. That worked! Our most grateful thanks to you. That little speck of gold made it worth my while to put up with the irrelevant abuse that poisons this list. regards John O'Gorman -JP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Enlightenment e17 and e16
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rafael E. Herrera wrote: G T Smith wrote: In attempting to get hold of something to edit my enlightenment menus I accidentally torched my e16 installation. It was easy enough to restore the e16 setup, but it seems the e17 (from Pacman) rpm a) does not install e17 completely correctly, b) removes the e16 installation. The Suse enlightenment package installs its config files in ~/.enlightenment; the packman e16 package stores them in ~/.e16; the e17 package goes into ~/.e According to the enlightenment site e16 and e17 can coexist, Has anyone got these to co-exist on SuSE? If so how? I would prefer not to re-invent the wheel... so, from above, you don't have to do anything to get them to coexist. Err this is not quite what happened YaST installed e17 as a dependency of something else ( at the time was to busy swearing to figure out exactly what because I knew something was awry when it started to install the 16.99 rpm. ) Immediately after the install e16 became non-functional and it was only by luck that a that there was functioning terminal with which to force a restart. After which e16 was no longer available as a window manager, and e17 would not do anything other than load a complaint about how it was being loaded. The local configuration directory was not touched, but it was fairly clear that some core elements of e16 had been removed or replaced. At the time all I wanted to do was locate e16menuedit2 so I could tidy up the menu a bit. This does not seem to be part of the standard distribution, and the source code when I located it seems to be about 3 years old so I have a feeling that building this one is going to be one of lifes more intriguing experiences. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGU/sbasN0sSnLmgIRAhXAAKC1EQ/+gHG3NORtryv6AaPva0MvUQCffL6r FPFgYLGSkovAPA3D8PA9IwQ= =O+l4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Suse 10 strange cd burn problem
Hi, I can burn CDs fine on this suse 10 machine using eg gnomebaker. If I fire up K3b and try and burn it errors out with a no disc space message, yet k3b itself also reports 2+ gigs of free space. Any suggestions most welcome. TIA F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What's the point with 64 bit
Tom Miller wrote: Pueblo Native wrote: it seems that almost everybody I've talked to has advised me not to go with the 64 bit version of OpenSuse because there really is no speed advantage (if that's not good advice I'd like to hear otherwise). So then, if there is no speed advantage, what's the point in even having a 64 bit processor right now? If you only have 2 gig of memory, 32bit will be faster. It may just be my imagination, but x86-64 seems to be faster on my dual core 3.2GHz with 1 G memory. It seems to me that the place I notice it most is in Yast2 when it's refreshing the install repo's. It seems to process the information faster. Everything else seems to go just a bit faster, but Yast2 is where I notice it most. As I said, it may just be my imagination. However, I wouldn't hesitate to load it with just one Gig memory. -- (o:]*HUGGLES*[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: I LOVE YOU Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Wanna umask inhereted from parent directory
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 14:49, Joachim Schrod wrote: Phil answered your question how to enable the RH behavior by setting the umask globally. If you don't want to do this, there is the possibility to use access control lists (ACLs); the default ACL determines the access right of newly created files. I don't know if the global umask setting is sufficient for you, so I stop here with the explanation; ask, if you need more info. But note: both methods don't support changing the access rights of files that are created elsewhere, e.g., in a personal directory, and moved to the shared directory. (That's because moving doesn't create a file, it just changes the directory entry. (Reality is even more complex, but hopefully you'll see what I mean.)) Hi Joachim, Do you know where I can set the umask globally in Suse? However, I don't think setting up the umask globally would be as safe as in RH, because Suse doesn't use the concept of UPG (user private group). So, if I set the umask globally, then it means every user can access those files and directory in the test directory. You mean ACL as in extended ACL from setfacl? I think I can try create the UPG situation like in RH, but it means I have to remove all related users from the 'user' group. Not practical. Or, after some browsing on /etc/apparmor directory, I think it's possible to set the umask for the 'test' directory and files. I'm not sure. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | Linux tutorial http://linux2.arinet.org 6:00pm up 9:53, 2.6.18.2-34-default GNU/Linux Let's use OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org pgpbhDvG2Qf00.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] gtkterm -- or -like prog for sled/open suse 10.1?
Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 15:35 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: I need to use my laptops serial port, to connect via serial cable to cisco switches, fiber channel switches, etc I found reference to gtkterm, but there does not appear to be an RPM for it, and I'm just wondering whether there is a util that comes with suse distros? Peter I always used seyon to connect to the Cisco equipment. Worked very well every time. The tty would most likely be ttyS0. I've used minicom many times too. Works well. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What's the point with 64 bit
Tom Miller wrote: The reason that 32bit is faster is it only has to pass around 32 bit pointers vs 64 bit pointers. On the other hand, the faster memory handling above 2 GB with 64bit OS makes up the difference . Given that data is transferred in parallel, that is all bits at the same time, how does it take longer to transfer 64 bits? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Cache Problem (I think)
Per Qvindesland wrote: Is there some reason why you encrypted a message to the list? I can't read it, without the appropriate PGP key. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Wanna umask inhereted from parent directory
Fajar Priyanto wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007 14:49, Joachim Schrod wrote: Phil answered your question how to enable the RH behavior by setting the umask globally. If you don't want to do this, there is the possibility to use access control lists (ACLs); the default ACL determines the access right of newly created files. I don't know if the global umask setting is sufficient for you, so I stop here with the explanation; ask, if you need more info. But note: both methods don't support changing the access rights of files that are created elsewhere, e.g., in a personal directory, and moved to the shared directory. (That's because moving doesn't create a file, it just changes the directory entry. (Reality is even more complex, but hopefully you'll see what I mean.)) Hi Joachim, Do you know where I can set the umask globally in Suse? However, I don't think setting up the umask globally would be as safe as in RH, because Suse doesn't use the concept of UPG (user private group). So, if I set the umask globally, then it means every user can access those files and directory in the test directory. You can create private groups manually, when you create a user. However, I agree that the current SUSE configuration, where anyone can read personal folders is bizarre. It's beyond belief that SUSE would combine a common users group with such a default mask. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suse 10 strange cd burn problem
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 17:12, Francesco Scaglioni wrote: Hi, I can burn CDs fine on this suse 10 machine using eg gnomebaker. If I fire up K3b and try and burn it errors out with a no disc space message, yet k3b itself also reports 2+ gigs of free space. Sorry for not answering, I think I just bumped the wall too this morning by burning a DVD iso using k3b. The process ran smoothly. No error or whatsoever reported. The DVD ejected automatically after finish. But then when I insert it into the drive, Opensuse thinks that it's an empty DVD, whereas it's not. I can see the burned side of the DVD, and confirm it by trying to burn it again using k3b. It refuses. Well, I have been using k3b for a long time with ups and downs. Looks like I'm on the down again. PS. the k3b version is: k3b-0.12.17-31 -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | Linux tutorial http://linux2.arinet.org 6:36pm up 10:30, 2.6.18.2-34-default GNU/Linux Let's use OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org pgp9VxPEqfLBd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Re: Wanna umask inhereted from parent directory
Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi Joachim, Do you know where I can set the umask globally in Suse? Do you mean for new users? Try Yast, Security and Users, User Management, Expert Options, Default for New Users, Umask for Home Directory. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suse 10 strange cd burn problem
On Wednesday 23 May 2007, Fajar Priyanto wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007 17:12, Francesco Scaglioni wrote: Hi, I can burn CDs fine on this suse 10 machine using eg gnomebaker. If I fire up K3b and try and burn it errors out with a no disc space message, yet k3b itself also reports 2+ gigs of free space. Sorry for not answering, I think I just bumped the wall too this morning by burning a DVD iso using k3b. The process ran smoothly. No error or whatsoever reported. The DVD ejected automatically after finish. But then when I insert it into the drive, Opensuse thinks that it's an empty DVD, whereas it's not. I can see the burned side of the DVD, and confirm it by trying to burn it again using k3b. It refuses. Well, I have been using k3b for a long time with ups and downs. Looks like I'm on the down again. PS. the k3b version is: k3b-0.12.17-31 Just in case you guys didn't realize, k3b is unlikely to be at fault here! K3b gnomebaker are only the gui frontends to the programs actually being used. You might want to check to see if you can burn successfully from the terminal using the wodim programs supplied. These are the forks from the cdrecord tools presently being used by SuSE. You also may want to update to the newer version k3b, 1.x available from SuSE or Packman. It has many new features fixes. regards, Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] gsat compile errors
Im trying to get gsat compiled on 10.2. I get: make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/predict-2.2.3/clients/gsat-1.1.0/src' gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o gsat main.o support.o interface.o callbacks.o comms.o plugins.o db.o prefs.o -L/opt/gnome/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm /usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../i586-suse-linux/bin/ld: errno: TLS definition in /lib/libc.so.6 section .tbss mismatches non-TLS reference in callbacks.o /lib/libc.so.6: could not read symbols: Bad value collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [gsat] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/predict-2.2.3/clients/gsat-1.1.0/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/predict-2.2.3/clients/gsat-1.1.0' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Wanna umask inhereted from parent directory
Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi all, Most of the time I administer Redhat server. However, recently I spend more and more time exploring Opensuse. There's one thing that I don't get it yet regarding sgid and umask in Opensuse. In RH, when I create a directory say 'test', chmod it 3770. It will look like this: drwxrws--T 2 root sales 4096 2007-05-23 08:16 test Then, when I create a file inside the directory, it will have permission like this: -rw-rw-r-- 1 geecko sales 4 2007-05-23 09:14 filegeecko (notice the rw-rw-r--). I just tried this on both RedHat 3 4 and don't see this. I think it just has to do with whatever your umask is for the user 'geecko'. This can be set in a bunch of different places, and usually has a default value assigned in a few places, but can always be changed by the user. In your case, your umask is 002, while in other places, like the default umask for openSUSE, it is 022. You can see what the umask is via the 'umask' command. I do the same in Opensuse. But, the file created in the directory have the permission: -rw-r--r-- 1 geecko sales 4 2007-05-23 09:17 filegeecko (notice the rw-r--r--). This permission makes other user in sales group cannot edit geecko's file. User geecko has to specifically set the permission to 664 on the file. How do I achive the default umask inhereted from the parent directory? I read some suggestions from google to adjust the global default umask, but I think it's a bit risky, or is it the only way? This isn't possible under standard Linux usage. Files and the like don't inherit properties from directories, save in the special case you are doing here, which is setting the setguid bit on a directory, which means by default, files created are in the directory's group. You can set the default umask, but it can be overridden by a user. If you want user 'geecko' to create these group writable files, just change the umask in geecko's .bash_profile or .bashrc file: umask 0002 As mentioned, ACLs could probably fix this too, but those are necessarily enabled on every filesystem. -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Wanna umask inhereted from parent directory
James Knott wrote: Fajar Priyanto wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007 14:49, Joachim Schrod wrote: Phil answered your question how to enable the RH behavior by setting the umask globally. If you don't want to do this, there is the possibility to use access control lists (ACLs); the default ACL determines the access right of newly created files. I don't know if the global umask setting is sufficient for you, so I stop here with the explanation; ask, if you need more info. But note: both methods don't support changing the access rights of files that are created elsewhere, e.g., in a personal directory, and moved to the shared directory. (That's because moving doesn't create a file, it just changes the directory entry. (Reality is even more complex, but hopefully you'll see what I mean.)) Hi Joachim, Do you know where I can set the umask globally in Suse? However, I don't think setting up the umask globally would be as safe as in RH, because Suse doesn't use the concept of UPG (user private group). So, if I set the umask globally, then it means every user can access those files and directory in the test directory. You can create private groups manually, when you create a user. However, I agree that the current SUSE configuration, where anyone can read personal folders is bizarre. It's beyond belief that SUSE would combine a common users group with such a default mask. Yes, you're right. The combination of a default umask of 022 and a generic user group of 'users' is pretty insecure. Is there a bug about this? -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What's the point with 64 bit
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 04:11, James Knott wrote: Tom Miller wrote: The reason that 32bit is faster is it only has to pass around 32 bit pointers vs 64 bit pointers. On the other hand, the faster memory handling above 2 GB with 64bit OS makes up the difference . Given that data is transferred in parallel, that is all bits at the same time, how does it take longer to transfer 64 bits? Because fewer of the data units that the program requests can be transferred per unit time when the program is sequentially accessing word-sized units, which is a very common case and one the the things caches and fetch-ahead mechanisms serve to accelerate. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suse 10 strange cd burn problem
BandiPat schrieb: Just in case you guys didn't realize, k3b is unlikely to be at fault here! K3b gnomebaker are only the gui frontends to the programs actually being used. Well, I do realize it. Wodim, cdrdao and growisofs are working perfectly here. However k3b does not. How does it fit your Theory? I don't use gnome. K3b has its ups and downs, thus I stick to the shell. You might want to check to see if you can burn successfully from the terminal using the wodim programs supplied. These are the forks from the cdrecord tools presently being used by SuSE. You also may want to update to the newer version k3b, 1.x available from SuSE or Packman. It has many new features fixes. Did SUSE switch from cdrecord to wodim for the 10.0 release? The only reason I switched from 10.0 to SLED and then to 10.2 was the burning problem. Back there even in the CLI. Thx Jan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with syslog-ng syntax
Bugger. Every which way I enter it 1. As is 2. Nominating the IP as either 0.0.0.0 or localhost or (PC to where data is being sent IP) (device IP) The error is always the same on re-start What ever line the source...etc. is on will not parse and the file will not load. Please don't spend any more time on this. There are so many other than need your help. I have subscribed to support community email for developers syslog-ng at http://www.balabit.com/. If ever I work it out I will send you a quick not as to why what appears perfect in my and your logic - and follows the documentation to the letter does not work as simply as it should - as the doc tells us. Good luck and I keep you in thought and thanks for your time. Scott :-[ Darryl Gregorash wrote: On 2007-05-22 17:43, Registration Account wrote: Darryl I tested yesterday with the space and there is no difference. I did however make some progress with the following source src { unix-stream(/var/log/skot); internal(); udp(ip(0.0.0.0) port(514)); }; That is definitely not right. Your source is the udp port only, and the file /var/log/skot is not a Unix stream. You definitely do not want to include the UDP source in the one that comes in the .conf file, because you wish to have separate output. Make your own source, it is much easier (you don't have to create any filters this way): 1. remove the udp stuff from source src . 2. then add the following three into the .conf file: source my_src { udp(ip(0.0.0.0) port 514); }; (Note here that you can bind this to a specific device, if that device will have a fixed IP.) destination my_dest { file(/var/log/skot ); }; log { source(my_src); destination(my_dest); }; 3. finally, as root rcsyslog reload smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [opensuse] gtkterm -- or -like prog for sled/open suse 10.1?
On 5/22/07, Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always used seyon to connect to the Cisco equipment. Worked very well every time. The tty would most likely be ttyS0. how do I know (confirm) that ttys0 is the serial port? I don't have my cable handy (or a device to connect to) and yet, I'd like to confirm that all works before I need it. Minicom gives me an error when I configure /dev/ttys0 as the device ... I haven't been able to figure out yet how to get seyon configured. P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with syslog-ng syntax
S O L V E D ! Thanks to all who participated especially Darryl - The answer was staring me in the face all the time. At the very top of the file gives the clue All that is required is simply source src {internal(); udp(ip(0.0.0.0) port(514)); }; This line is present in PC IP that receives the data and without a destination will default to the system log messages Open KSystem Log - Default log is the system or messages file - The data is all present and changes before my eyes. We all did it and personally I would like to know if anyone has success in creating an additional source. I really don't believe its possible. Good Night All 00:27 Scott Registration Account wrote: I want to build a Syslog Server. I have a Linux Log file viewer so most of the work is done. http://www.kiwisyslog.com/log-viewer-v2-beta-info.htm I needs syslog-ng to listen to UDP/514 and write a continuous file on the information it hears. Fortunately I do not need any log rotation as the file is only text base and although it has the potential to reach large sizes I can deal with a lot of space. Syslog-ng appears to have many config files and I am not sure which to modify. Can anyone assist me with this short line of syntax, given the above Linux Log file's ability to display the file as it changes and the various parameters it uses, some of which I understand but not all. The ability to NOT have to maintain a M$ PC just to be a Syslog +daemon would be a breakthrough for so many sysop's who require real time syslog data. Data from my multiple IDS's is sent to my current M$ Windows Syslog+Daemon, however I do have a large Linux IDS Management Module that does number crunching, provides warnings and reports but cannot display the data in realtime. Syslog data is sent to UDP/514 to Facility's numbering Local 0-7. The text stream looks something like [2007-04-21 17:31:55] 6EFW: ALG: prio=1 algmod=http algsesid=70500 action=close reason=backlisted_url url=www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-19990518/ca peer=client connipproto=TCP connrecvif=LAN connsrcip=192.168.100.40 connsrcport=3767 conndestif=core conndestip=202.158.212.136 conndestport=80 origsent=364 termsent=84 Where the number enclosed by is equal to 0 Emergency: system is unusable 1 Alert: action must be taken immediately 2 Critical: critical conditions 3 Error: error conditions 4 Warning: warning conditions 5 Notice: normal but significant condition 6 Informational: informational messages 7 Debug: debug-level message If anyone is really board and wants to learn about the convention there is a short war and piece version at http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3164.html Dont worry about understand the text, thats my job. I just offer it as an example for delineation purposes. I know this is a big ask, but no one but no one currently produces as Linux Syslog Daemon + Log Viewer. In my reading of my 2000 page into to C++, I have only got to page 95 and I know this is a 3 line entry into a config. Please tell me if I ask too much. Many thanks if anyone can assist. Scott :'( smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video
S Glasoe wrote: On Tuesday May 22 2007 11:18:59 am Jim Flanagan wrote: I did not delete ~/.kde or /tmp before reinstalling KDE. Thats a good idea. I think I'll delete /etc/X11 as well. Don't know if deleting /etc/X11at the same time is a good idea. I'd save that for a next step. Existing other users and a new user experience the same problems. This may or may not be related, but clicking on My Computer on the desktop returns this error: An error occurred while loading sysinfo:/: Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_sysinfo'. Jim F kio_sysinfo is provided by kdebase3-SuSE-10.2-x.y.rpm I believe. Maybe you are missing more than a few KDE rpms. Possibly select almost everything in YaST, Software Management that starts with KDE* instead of going for package groups may load the missing rpms. I looked thru my packages, and don't see any KDE stuff to add that might help, only stuff like languages, arts, toys, etc. I tried uninstalling kdebase3-SuSE and reinstalling that, but no change. I will try adding some more KDE packages just in case. For information sake, how do you tell a certain file is needed or supplied by a certain package, such as kio_sysinfo belonging to kdebase3-? Many thanks, Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video
BandiPat wrote: On Monday 21 May 2007, Jim Flanagan wrote: === Ok, it sounds like you did not turn on 3D while in sax2 then. It's possible that your screensavers are zonked, but more than likely, I would guess that you failed to accomplish everything while in sax2. If you do glxinfo from the shell, do you see direct rendering = yes there? If it's no then guess what? Yep, 3d is not turned on and you need to go back into sax2 to take care of that. I'm guessing you are trying to run a 3D screensaver when you get the error? No, I did not turn on 3D in sax, but the screensaver is not 3D either. I'll have to wait until later in the day to work on this again, but I did not see how to enable 3D in sax. There is a check box, but it was greyed out. Is there another command in sax that will enable this? Many thanks, Jim F Jim, I'm not close to a SuSE machine at the moment and haven't used sax2 in a long time, but there should be a check box for 3d. Did you check to be sure the card is correct and it chose the right monitor+settings? If all that is correct, the 3d should come available to you. If not, you can always edit the xorg.conf file to set it on. Section Module Load glx Load type1 Load extmod Load dbe Load freetype Load v4l Load dri EndSection That's the section you want to look about. Compare it to your xorg.conf and make the necessary changes. Be sure to restart X after making the changes, then try your glxinfo again for direct rendering. regards, Lee Hi Lee, My xorg.cong contains all these lines, except the dri. The others are there, but not in the same order. Does that matter? I have not added dri yet, should I? Sax2 is detecting my 9800 Pro as R350 NH. I believe that is correct. The 3D box is grayed out, don't have access to it. I do have a spare 9200 laying around that I could throw in this machine if that would help, but from what you indicated the 9800 Pro should work well with the default drivers. With the default install I was only getting about 23fps in glxgears, way too slow for this card. That is why I was trying to install the ATI drivers. Since then I can't run either glxgears or fglrxgears. And other stuff is not right, like screensaver. Many thanks, Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] gtkterm -- or -like prog for sled/open suse 10.1?
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 09:28 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: On 5/22/07, Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always used seyon to connect to the Cisco equipment. Worked very well every time. The tty would most likely be ttyS0. how do I know (confirm) that ttys0 is the serial port? dmesg|grep tty should show which serial ports are available. ttyS0 is the first serial port in linux. I don't have my cable handy (or a device to connect to) and yet, I'd like to confirm that all works before I need it. The _only_ way to confirm is by using it. I'm sorry to say that _nobody_ on this list has a working crystal ball to gaze into to give you an answer. Minicom gives me an error when I configure /dev/ttys0 as the device ... I haven't been able to figure out yet how to get seyon configured. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] gtkterm -- or -like prog for sled/open suse 10.1?
On 5/22/07, Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always used seyon to connect to the Cisco equipment. Worked very well every time. The tty would most likely be ttyS0. when I try screen (now, with a serial cable connected to a device): screen /dev/ttys0 9600 I get an error saying:cannot open /dev/ttys0 Sorry, could not find a PTY -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] gtkterm -- or -like prog for sled/open suse 10.1?
On 5/23/07, Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dmesg|grep tty that was helpful, thank you. I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ dmesg |grep tty serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A 00:02: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ so theoretically that should work with minicom ... but it tells me: minicom: cannot open /dev/ttys0: Input/output error so, perhaps a bad cable? This gets me something to work on, anyway. Thnx again P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suse 10 strange cd burn problem
On Wednesday 23 May 2007, Jan Tiggy wrote: BandiPat schrieb: Just in case you guys didn't realize, k3b is unlikely to be at fault here! K3b gnomebaker are only the gui frontends to the programs actually being used. Well, I do realize it. Wodim, cdrdao and growisofs are working perfectly here. However k3b does not. How does it fit your Theory? I don't use gnome. K3b has its ups and downs, thus I stick to the shell. You might want to check to see if you can burn successfully from the terminal using the wodim programs supplied. These are the forks from the cdrecord tools presently being used by SuSE. You also may want to update to the newer version k3b, 1.x available from SuSE or Packman. It has many new features fixes. Did SUSE switch from cdrecord to wodim for the 10.0 release? The only reason I switched from 10.0 to SLED and then to 10.2 was the burning problem. Back there even in the CLI. Thx Jan == I don't remember when SuSE switched, it was 10.0 or 10.1, but you can easily check. Just check to see if cdrecord, etc are symlinks to the new wodim files. It may be that you just need to update k3b to the new version Are you running a new kernel? 2.19 or above? If so, you should absolutely update k3b. Gnomebaker is not as elegant a program as k3b, but it works well in either gnome or kde. K3b has always been reliable for me. There have been some oops along the way, but if it burns to success, then I always got a good cd from it. regards, Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] gtkterm -- or -like prog for sled/open suse 10.1?
Peter Van Lone wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ dmesg |grep tty serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A 00:02: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ so theoretically that should work with minicom ... but it tells me: minicom: cannot open /dev/ttys0: Input/output error Was that a typo, or did you actually use ttyS0. ttys0 is not the same. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Mounting windows share with CIFS
hello, get the update first just like mine(get the *.patch.rpm only for efficiency) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qa|grep samba yast2-samba-client-2.14.4-3 samba-winbind-3.0.23d-19.5 yast2-samba-server-2.14.3-10 kdebase3-samba-3.5.5-78 samba-doc-3.0.23d-6 samba-client-3.0.23d-19.5 samba-3.0.23d-19.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ then try this(i've 2003 box too) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ sudo mount //10.126.12.50/C$ mount/ntfs/ -o username=chika Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cd mount/ntfs/ (it takes a little longer) OR this one . [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/mount sudo mount.cifs //10.126.12.50/C$ ntfs/ -o username=chika Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/mount cd ntfs/ u can give this way as your new method(it is fastest) enter this on Location @ your konqueror(it based on reliable smbclient) smb://10.126.12.50/C$ thanks for waiting my info. cheers, chika I have an OpenSUSE 10.2 box that about a month ago I was able to use to mount a windows share (win2k3 AD server) using the typical mount -t cifs -o user=name etc. However, today when I do this I get the following: porsche:~ # mount -t cifs -o user=testuser //ferrari/d$ /home/testuser/homedir/ mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //ferrari/d$, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so porsche:~ # dmesg | tail CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22 CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22 CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22 CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22 I've done the google search but no help. Any idea what the problem is? Seems strange that it would work a little while ago and not now. This is a pretty static box. Not many changes made to this machine. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Brian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Unable to connect to catalogue
Hi I have a clean install of OpenSuse 10.2 which I installed from the 5 CD's I downloaded from the OpenSuse web site. My internet connection is through a ADSL router which I connect to with an ethernet cable which I share with a Windows computer. The install went perfectly with the exception of the Test Internet Connection to download the release notes section. This test failed even though the router was on and the ethernet was connected (the Windows computer was connected through the same router at the same time). Having booted into KDE, I opened Konqueror and was able to connect to the internet automatically without having to fill out the DSL section in Yast. However, the Installation Source section consistently refuses to allow me to add a new a new catalogue. I have tried numerous different servers and directories. I keep getting the same message box: Unable to create installation source from URL path Details: Unknown source type for path Try again? where path is filed out with the latest server and directory attempt. Adding the catalogue from command-line using 'rug' also does not work. Any clues? Thank you. Paul -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] gtkterm -- or -like prog for sled/open suse 10.1?
On 5/23/07, Joe Morris (NTM) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was that a typo, or did you actually use ttyS0. ttys0 is not the same. funny, I was wondering that. When I first tried to config the serial port in minicom, it flipped the S to s ... so I figured maybe it needed to be lower case. Now, I see though, that I must have hit a stray key, or something, because now it keeps it, and NOW it appears that minicom likes the serial port. Thnx, good catch! (now, I need to find a cable ...) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
Okay, just for everyone's knowledge, Vista has this annoying habit of asking if I want to save a password. On my sites, I have several with similar domains and differnt passwords. Vista mucks them up. This - plus an annoying habit of locking up on a regular basis - decided me that I'd just simply go with SUSE 10.2 and create a VMWare XP machine. So, last night I painlessly installed 10.2 on my laptop (which went flawlessley) and am now up on KDE. Even my multimedia keys are recognized!! http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20070523_102_desktop.jpg Okay, one problem. It seems when I'm using firefox - which is most of the time - I get a lock up. The clock icon shows and I can pretty much do nothing but power off. EXT3 - which I noticed replaced reiser - seems to handle things just fine, but what may be going on? How can I diagnose this? Second question - since this is a dual core (Centrino Duo 2.0 GHz) system, shouldn't I be using a SMP kernel? I notice that the kernel used is 2.6.18.8.0.3-default i686 TIA! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Keyboard with buttons
-Original Message- From: M Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensuse@opensuse.org Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 23:36:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [opensuse] Keyboard with buttons On Tuesday 22 May 2007 20:20, Chris Arnold wrote: Kernel see the strokes and all is well, except, in control center, i do not see where to map the numbers to the buttons. I looked in the keyboard applet and i was able to map the vol buttons in the shortcuts applet. Where exactly do i map the browser buttons to the browser? Thanks again for the help Assuming the kernel has the keys mapped, AND xev shows a valid keysym for each key please check with this: from a terminal konsole on your desktop, enter: xev | grep -i keysym Now, press the key you are interested in and then move your mouse over the xev window and the keysym data should appear in your terminal window. If the key has a valid keysym for the scancode, then no problem. Otherwise you will need to bind a keysym to the scancode with xmodmap. In your home directory you simply create a file called .Xmodmap with the entries you need--- for instance: (these are just examples, yours will be different) keycode 223 = XF86LogOff keycode 233 = XF86Forward keycode 234 = XF86Back etc Then you make them available with: xmodmap .Xmodmap ===please notice the dot in the name You can look at the keysym database /usr/X11R6/X11/XKeysymDB for valid symbols that you can bind. After you add the entries to your .Xmodmap file in your home directory, and run xmodmap .Xmodmap, then test your keysym entries by running the xev experiment again... this time you should see the keycode and the keysym binding. You are now ready to have KDE do something with the keysym bindings. You do this within the Control Center using the following directions: Pull up the appropriate control center panel with : SUSE === Control Center === Regional Accessibility === Hotkeys 1) Create an action group name based on your keyboard... mine is a Dynex internet keyboard... so I just called my new group Dynex. 2) Create an action subgroup under that for Firefox (you can have many groups and subgroups, like one for Thunderbird) 3) Under Firefox create a K-menu Entry simple a) call it search(no quotes) (it will be used to start firefox) b) click keyboard shortcut... and press the button on your keyboard for starting firefox... the keysym bound for that button will fill in the shortcut box... we're almost done c) click menu entry (it will contain the program name) and enter firefox (no quotes) in the field d) click Apply 4) [ let's do another one for the forward button ] 4) Under Firefox group create a Keyboard Shortcut Keyboard Input simple a) call it page forward (no quotes) b) click keyboard shortcut and press the forward multimedia key on your keyboard to fill in the shortcut keysym binding c) click keyboard Input Settings and make the keyboard input Alt+Right and send input to active window d) click Apply Simply repeat these instructions for as many keys as you want to define all 19 keys on my Dynex are configured to do something... keep in mind that these bindings only work while kde is up and running... for instance, I have a key that ejects my cdrom (and also closes it) from the keyboard... but I cannot use that button to open the cdrom door from my black screen consoles... nor does it work in run level 3. Of course the keyboard can be mapped for run level 3 also... but that is another story. Also, the keyboard shortcuts for the apps you are configuring must be known to you... for instance you must know that Alt+Right is the page forward in Firefox. The first few of these you dink around with will be a little confusing, but after you do a couple you'll have the whole keyboard mapped in no time. Caveat: If you're using gnome, consider using KDE just kidding... there is probably a way to do this same thing in gnome... but I don't have a clue how because... I don't use gnome... :) Have lots of fun. -- Kind regards, M Harris Great directions but i am using gnome :) Anyone know how to do this in gnome? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Wanna umask inhereted from parent directory
James Knott wrote: Fajar Priyanto wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007 14:49, Joachim Schrod wrote: Phil answered your question how to enable the RH behavior by setting the umask globally. If you don't want to do this, there is the possibility to use access control lists (ACLs); the default ACL determines the access right of newly created files. I don't know if the global umask setting is sufficient for you, so I stop here with the explanation; ask, if you need more info. But note: both methods don't support changing the access rights of files that are created elsewhere, e.g., in a personal directory, and moved to the shared directory. (That's because moving doesn't create a file, it just changes the directory entry. (Reality is even more complex, but hopefully you'll see what I mean.)) Hi Joachim, Do you know where I can set the umask globally in Suse? /etc/initscript Also /etc/login.defs -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 09:34, Jim Flanagan wrote: My xorg.cong contains all these lines, except the dri. The others are there, but not in the same order. Does that matter? I have not added dri yet, should I? dri is the 3D ... or, in other words, normally checking the 3D box (which is grayed out in your case) adds the dri. Even though my 3D box was grayed out I was able to add the dri to the list manually to activate 3D. Its worth a try. -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 10:25, Kai Ponte wrote: It seems when I'm using firefox - which is most of the time - I get a lock up. The clock icon shows and I can pretty much do nothing but power off. Kai, does an alt-F1 take to you a console (black screen)? When it locks can you ping it from another box... or is it casters-up dead? -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: KDE question?
On Tuesday 22 May 2007, BandiPat said: Actually, I think you'll find that SuSE's KDE has been touched quite a bit by the SuSE developers. There are lots of differences, some noticeable, others not so, but several changes. Just take a look at another distro using KDE that uses the standard packages from kde.org and you should immediately see some differences. Also, take a look at SuSE's src.rpms to see what patches, etc. they do. Lee is right - we patch the kde.org tarballs extensively. SUSE does after all have more KDE developers than any other distro, AFAIK, and it would be a shame for us to have to play frozen-bubble all day. Some reasons for these changes are: *) adding changes from SVN branch since the kde.org release *) making our bugfixes available before the next kde.org release *) adding our features from before next kde.org release *) adding our branding *) adding features that aren't accepted upstream yet due to feature freezes, eg. the Kickoff menu, Beagle integration, or Novell GroupWise support *) making distro dependent integration changes that are out of the KDE project's scope, e.g desktop startup time fixes or improving Gnome app help support in khelpcenter Most of these changes are below the waterline and just make for a better user experience. Stephan Binner used to keep tabs on all the distro patches with a list at http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/distributor-patches but it is somewhat out of date - we had to shut him up somehow ;). I count 172 patches vs today's kdelibs3 and kdebase3 3.5.7 packages. You can install the kde.org files without expecting problems, but your best bet would be to continue with the SuSE builds, if you are satisfied with their changes and additions. Usually SuSE is pretty good at keeping abreast of the latest versions, Can you think of any exceptions? :) but again, if you prefer to stay on the edge, KDE from kde.org won't kill ya! Too much that is. ;-) I'd contend that just due to the bug fixes and branch changes, SUSE rpms are more current than the kde.org tarballs. Except maybe on days like yesterday [ http://dot.kde.org/1179831426/ ]. I hope that's of interest to you, Will -- Desktop Engineer 'K' Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] su - shared objcet or executable?
On my openSUSE 10.2 `file /bin/su` reports the following: /bin/su: setuid ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.4, stripped and the same for some other files which are expected to be simple executables, that is, LSB executable, like '/usr/bin/perl': /usr/bin/perl: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.4, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.4, stripped Is it a bug or a specific feature? `readelf -h /bin/su` agrees with `file` reporting su to be a shared object... -- Regards, Denis. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Keyboard with buttons
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 10:32, Chris Arnold wrote: Great directions but i am using gnome :) Anyone know how to do this in gnome? Yes... (I was hoping you would switch to kde) :-) Ok, gnome bindings work pretty much the same way... and the setup for creating keysyms is exactly the same. Check out this link on the Ubuntu forums... the desk on Ubuntu is gnome... these instructions are detailed and will get you going: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27039 -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] su - shared objcet or executable?
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 08:55, Denis Silakov wrote: On my openSUSE 10.2 `file /bin/su` reports the following: /bin/su: setuid ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.4, stripped and the same for some other files which are expected to be simple executables, that is, LSB executable, like '/usr/bin/perl': /usr/bin/perl: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.4, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.4, stripped Is it a bug or a specific feature? `readelf -h /bin/su` agrees with `file` reporting su to be a shared object... What kind of bug do you suspect? Is anything malfunctioning? Almost all Linux executables have at least one dynamically linked library, the one that allows system calls to be made. Most are fully dynamically linked. Exceptions most often those designed to run on a wide variety of Linux installations and not distributed as part of or for a specific distribution. Examples include the Adobe-distributed Reader, the Mozilla Foundation-distributed Firefox, etc. Dynamic linking is used because both file size and run-time RAM requirements are significantly reduced by using dynamic linking. On my system (a 32-bit SuSE Linux 10.0 installation), there are only 25 completely statically linked binaries among those found in /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin and /usr/sbin. That is out of 2921 total binary executable. -- Regards, Denis. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] su - shared objcet or executable?
Randall R Schulz wrote: What kind of bug do you suspect? Is anything malfunctioning? Almost all Linux executables have at least one dynamically linked library, the one that allows system calls to be made. Most are fully dynamically linked. Well, I see. Surely, there is no malfunctioning here. The thing is that we are collecting information about different distributions for the Linux Standard Base - https://www.linux-foundation.org/dbadmin/browse/distr.php and in the LSB there are 'Libraries' (system-wide shared libraries) and there are 'Commands' (for example, different utilities). All distribution data is collected automatically, but I don't see at the moment how to distinguish LSB commands from LSB libraries. The idea was to use `file` output, but very often it reports 'shared object' for files which we'd like to add as commands... -- Regards, Denis. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] su - shared objcet or executable?
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 09:24, Denis Silakov wrote: Randall R Schulz wrote: What kind of bug do you suspect? Is anything malfunctioning? Almost all Linux executables have at least one dynamically linked library, the one that allows system calls to be made. Most are fully dynamically linked. Well, I see. Surely, there is no malfunctioning here. The thing is that we are collecting information about different distributions for the Linux Standard Base - https://www.linux-foundation.org/dbadmin/browse/distr.php and in the LSB there are 'Libraries' (system-wide shared libraries) and there are 'Commands' (for example, different utilities). All distribution data is collected automatically, but I don't see at the moment how to distinguish LSB commands from LSB libraries. The idea was to use `file` output, but very often it reports 'shared object' for files which we'd like to add as commands... Well, in nearly (entirely?) all cases, a file that's really meant to be used as the target of dynamic linking as a shared library will be named with the suffix .so followed optionally by some version suffixes of the form (as an extended regular expression, enclosing quotation marks excluded) (\.[0-9]+)+. I believe kernel module share the same file format, but are named with a .ko suffix. I should state that my information on these topics might be a bit dated, so you might want to verify it, but it's at least approximately accurate. -- Regards, Denis. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
I think you should be using the smp kernel. What kind of a machine do you have? Anything in the system logs? Regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] su - shared objcet or executable?
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 11:24, Denis Silakov wrote: The thing is that we are collecting information about different distributions for the Linux Standard Base - https://www.linux-foundation.org/dbadmin/browse/distr.php and in the LSB there are 'Libraries' (system-wide shared libraries) and there are 'Commands' (for example, different utilities). All distribution data is collected automatically, but I don't see at the moment how to distinguish LSB commands from LSB libraries. The idea was to use `file` output, but very often it reports 'shared object' for files which we'd like to add as commands... hi Denis, you might want to take a look at: /usr/share/misc/magic This file details all of the types magic numbers... there is a difference between a shared object and a shared library the file might be of some help to you. -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
Okay, just for everyone's knowledge, Vista has this annoying habit of asking if I want to save a password. On my sites, I have several with similar domains and differnt passwords. Vista mucks them up. This - plus an annoying habit of locking up on a regular basis - decided me that I'd just simply go with SUSE 10.2 and create a VMWare XP machine. So, last night I painlessly installed 10.2 on my laptop (which went flawlessley) and am now up on KDE. Even my multimedia keys are recognized!! http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20070523_102_desktop.jpg Okay, one problem. It seems when I'm using firefox - which is most of the time - I get a lock up. The clock icon shows and I can pretty much do nothing but power off. EXT3 - which I noticed replaced reiser - seems to handle things just fine, but what may be going on? How can I diagnose this? Second question - since this is a dual core (Centrino Duo 2.0 GHz) system, shouldn't I be using a SMP kernel? I notice that the kernel used is 2.6.18.8.0.3-default i686 TIA! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The SMP kernel became the default kernel in 10.2 and later. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
On Wed, May 23, 2007 8:51 am, M Harris wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007 10:25, Kai Ponte wrote: It seems when I'm using firefox - which is most of the time - I get a lock up. The clock icon shows and I can pretty much do nothing but power off. Kai, does an alt-F1 take to you a console (black screen)? When it locks can you ping it from another box... or is it casters-up dead? alt-f1 does nothing. Neither does ctrl-alt-esc or ctrl-backspace. The mouse appears to move, but that's it. I can ping it. I just had it happen while resizing a konqueror window. Wierd. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] On-topic list, anyone?
Does anyone know of a mailing list for discussing technical issues about SuSE, that is on-topic only (no OT postings)? Anyone interested in starting one? It's kind weird - I'm on a great deal of mailing lists (have been for years), and just recently (past few weeks) there's been long, flame wars about off-topic threads (this is list on-topic only no it's not banter) on several of them. Must be an internet-wide conspiracy, it's gotten into everyone at once :-) -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] alt-F1?
I've seen several statements lately that one gets to the black console screens via alt-F1. When I do this, I get the KDE menu. I have to do ctrl-alt-Fx to get to the consoles. As far as I know, my system is a simple standard opensuse 10.2 with the basic suse updates through opensuseupdater. No hacks, no obscure window manager additions. Why is my X different? Should I be concerned? John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
On 5/23/07, Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2007 8:51 am, M Harris wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007 10:25, Kai Ponte wrote: It seems when I'm using firefox - which is most of the time - I get a lock up. The clock icon shows and I can pretty much do nothing but power off. Kai, does an alt-F1 take to you a console (black screen)? When it locks can you ping it from another box... or is it casters-up dead? alt-f1 does nothing. Neither does ctrl-alt-esc or ctrl-backspace. The mouse appears to move, but that's it. From KDE, I think it is ctrl-alt-f1, etc. Once your at a console, alt-f1, etc. work. Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 11:49, Kai Ponte wrote: I can ping it. I just had it happen while resizing a konqueror window. Open ssh to it... and when it locks see if you can ssh login to it... Trying to find out if the kernel is dead... or just the interface... if you can ping it then at least the card is responding... but probably also the kernel... see if you can ssh into it... -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] alt-F1?
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 11:52, John E. Perry wrote: As far as I know, my system is a simple standard opensuse 10.2 with the basic suse updates through opensuseupdater. No hacks, no obscure window manager additions. Why is my X different? Should I be concerned? No you are correct. Often the alt-F1 term is used as an identifier (to differentiate the black screen console from Konsole on the desktop) versus an operational command Yes, to actually access the black screen consoles from the desktop (on distros) is ctl-alt-Fx; however, to get back ... just alt-F7. -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
Kai Ponte wrote: I can ping it if so you may be able to go in it with ssh. may be only the keyboard is stuck and not the system. try to go with ssh and type init 3 to go to console only (with network) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://gourmandises.orangeblog.fr/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] alt-F1?
On Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2007, John E. Perry wrote: I've seen several statements lately that one gets to the black console screens via alt-F1. When I do this, I get the KDE menu. I have to do ctrl-alt-Fx to get to the consoles. As far as I know, my system is a simple standard opensuse 10.2 with the basic suse updates through opensuseupdater. No hacks, no obscure window manager additions. Why is my X different? Should I be concerned? John Perry This is the same here on Suse 10.0 and since I know what a console is, it has always been like that - well, ok, that's not tens of years :-) But it indeed caused some problems to me, because it took a long time until I found out that I have to press ctrl too, while in my books about Linux it's always just alt-Fx... But I don't think there's anything to be concerned about in this regard. regards IL -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] alt-F1?
M Harris wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007 11:52, John E. Perry wrote: As far as I know, my system is a simple standard opensuse 10.2 with the basic suse updates through opensuseupdater. No hacks, no obscure window manager additions. Why is my X different? Should I be concerned? No you are correct. Often the alt-F1 term is used as an identifier (to differentiate the black screen console from Konsole on the desktop) versus an operational command Yes, to actually access the black screen consoles from the desktop (on distros) is ctl-alt-Fx; however, to get back ... just alt-F7. it's alt Fx from an other console, Ctrl Alt Fx from graphic interface jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://gourmandises.orangeblog.fr/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] alt-F1?
On 2007/05/23 12:52 (GMT-0400) John E. Perry apparently typed: I've seen several statements lately that one gets to the black console screens via alt-F1. When I do this, I get the KDE menu. I have to do ctrl-alt-Fx to get to the consoles. As far as I know, my system is a simple standard opensuse 10.2 with the basic suse updates through opensuseupdater. No hacks, no obscure window manager additions. Why is my X different? Yours is not different. In every X environment I've tried, Alt-Fx has an X-only meaning, so Ctrl-Alt-Fx is required to leave the X session. When not in an X session, Alt-Fx performs the same session switch whether Ctrl is also pressed or not. -- The path of the righteous is like the first gleam of dawn, shining ever brighter till the full light of day. Proverbs 4:18 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] USB drives on /dev/sda1
Hi Everybody. I've just discovered that I'm unable to mount USB pendrives on my laptop. Upon examination, I also find that I have no /dev/sda1. I assume that this is the reason why. If so, can I just recreate it with mknod? Can anyone tell me what the parameters are for creating /dev/sda1 with mknod? -- JAY VOLLMER[EMAIL PROTECTED] TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] alt-F1?
On 23-May-07 16:52:24, John E. Perry wrote: I've seen several statements lately that one gets to the black console screens via alt-F1. When I do this, I get the KDE menu. I have to do ctrl-alt-Fx to get to the consoles. As far as I know, my system is a simple standard opensuse 10.2 with the basic suse updates through opensuseupdater. No hacks, no obscure window manager additions. Why is my X different? Should I be concerned? John Perry The behaviour you describe is standard, and has been, on Linux, since X came in (early-mid 90s). The Alt-Fn statements you have seen refer to swapping between black consoles. So, from one black cosole, say Console 1, you can swap to any other, say Console 5, with Alt-F5. Of course, Alt-F7 will take you to the console which is running X. From an X console, however, to get to any other console you must use Ctrl-Alt-Fn. So Ctrl-Alt-F1 will take you to black console 1, for instance. The reason X is different is that, depending on the window manager, Alt-Fn will have some other function in X. This again is standard. Overall, nothing whatever to be concerned about! Hoping this helps, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 23-May-07 Time: 18:53:05 -- XFMail -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] USB drives on /dev/sda1
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 19:34, Jay C Vollmer wrote: Hi Everybody. I've just discovered that I'm unable to mount USB pendrives on my laptop. Upon examination, I also find that I have no /dev/sda1. I assume that this is the reason why. If so, can I just recreate it with mknod? Can anyone tell me what the parameters are for creating /dev/sda1 with mknod? -- JAY VOLLMER[EMAIL PROTECTED] TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE Does the syslog say it finds the drive, and assigns a /dev/ to it? Seems to me it doesnt, or the system would have created it on the fly... Can you please give us a copy of what /var/log/messages say when you plug the pendrive into the computer? -- /Rikard - email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.rikjoh.com mob:: +46 (0)763 19 76 25 Public PGP fingerprint 15 28 DF 78 67 98 B2 16 1F D3 FD C5 59 D4 B6 78 46 1C EE 56 pgpMycjJipLuH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Will Somebody Rid Us Of These List Police (WAS: Re: [opensuse] On-topic list, anyone?)
Please, can't you people find something more important to worry about in life? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video
On Wednesday May 23 2007 9:33:14 am Jim Flanagan wrote: For information sake, how do you tell a certain file is needed or supplied by a certain package, such as kio_sysinfo belonging to kdebase3-? Many thanks, Jim F pin file or RPM name Good for a locally available way to search what was included. pin will ask you to have CD1 or DVD in a drive so it can load ARCHIVES.gz to /var/pin/ARCHIVES.gz. From then on it will not need the CD/DVD. -- Stan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 11:49, Kai Ponte wrote: can you ping it from another box... or is it casters-up dead? alt-f1 does nothing. Neither does ctrl-alt-esc or ctrl-backspace. The mouse appears to move, but that's it. Does a ctl-alt-F1 bring up the console? -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] USB drives on /dev/sda1
Jay C Vollmer wrote: Hi Everybody. I've just discovered that I'm unable to mount USB pendrives on my laptop. Upon examination, I also find that I have no /dev/sda1. I assume that this is the reason why. If so, can I just recreate it with mknod? Can anyone tell me what the parameters are for creating /dev/sda1 with mknod? I thnik you don't have to do anything of this sort, this is done by the system when necessary. try to verify if the usb modules are loaded (lsmod | grep usb for example) try also an other stick jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://gourmandises.orangeblog.fr/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] alt-F1?
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 12:08, jdd wrote: it's alt Fx from an other console, Ctrl Alt Fx from graphic interface jdd Yup, always has been... -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
On Wed, May 23, 2007 9:47 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Second question - since this is a dual core (Centrino Duo 2.0 GHz) system, shouldn't I be using a SMP kernel? I notice that the kernel used is 2.6.18.8.0.3-default i686 The SMP kernel became the default kernel in 10.2 and later. Thank you... ...and I apologize for the off-topic request. I'll get back to more important requests regarding hacker beer, wet t-shirts, gerbils and politics as soon as I figure out my issue. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: alt-F1?
(Ted Harding) wrote: On 23-May-07 16:52:24, John E. Perry wrote: I've seen several statements lately that one gets to the black console screens via alt-F1. When I do this, I get the KDE menu. I have to do ctrl-alt-Fx to get to the consoles. As far as I know, my system is a simple standard opensuse 10.2 with the basic suse updates through opensuseupdater. No hacks, no obscure window manager additions. Why is my X different? Should I be concerned? John Perry The behaviour you describe is standard, and has been, on Linux, since X came in (early-mid 90s). The Alt-Fn statements you have seen refer to swapping between black consoles. So, from one black cosole, say Console 1, you can swap to any other, say Console 5, with Alt-F5. Of course, Alt-F7 will take you to the console which is running X. From an X console, however, to get to any other console you must use Ctrl-Alt-Fn. So Ctrl-Alt-F1 will take you to black console 1, for instance. The reason X is different is that, depending on the window manager, Alt-Fn will have some other function in X. This again is standard. And that's why it's easier to just get in the Ctrl-Alt-Fn mode, because that works from either a virtual terminal or X. I recently wrote a short bit about this: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/archives/000872.html -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
On Wed, May 23, 2007 9:56 am, Greg Freemyer wrote: ? alt-f1 does nothing. Neither does ctrl-alt-esc or ctrl-backspace. The mouse appears to move, but that's it. From KDE, I think it is ctrl-alt-f1, etc. Once your at a console, alt-f1, etc. work. Yes - and before anyone else freaks out about how to get back (I did) CTRL+ALT+F7 gets you back. :P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] USB drives on /dev/sda1
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 12:59, Rikard Johnels wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007 19:34, Jay C Vollmer wrote: Hi Everybody. I've just discovered that I'm unable to mount USB pendrives on my laptop. Upon examination, I also find that I have no /dev/sda1. I assume that this is the reason why. If so, can I just recreate it with mknod? Can anyone tell me what the parameters are for creating /dev/sda1 with mknod? -- JAY VOLLMER[EMAIL PROTECTED] TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE Does the syslog say it finds the drive, and assigns a /dev/ to it? Seems to me it doesnt, or the system would have created it on the fly... Can you please give us a copy of what /var/log/messages say when you plug the pendrive into the computer? Here are the modules loaded: usb_storage82368 0 scsi_mod 136712 1 usb_storage usbcore 128004 4 usb_storage,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd ide_core 130248 3 usb_storage,piix,ide_disk Here is the tail of /var/log/messages: May 23 14:00:03 azazel kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. May 23 14:00:14 azazel kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 34 May 23 14:00:17 azazel kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 43 May 23 14:00:18 azazel kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 47 May 23 14:00:19 azazel kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 48 May 23 14:00:20 azazel kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 53 May 23 14:00:23 azazel kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 63 May 23 14:00:24 azazel kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 67 May 23 14:00:26 azazel kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 73 May 23 14:00:28 azazel kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 78 -- /Rikard - email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.rikjoh.com mob: : +46 (0)763 19 76 25 Public PGP fingerprint 15 28 DF 78 67 98 B2 16 1F D3 FD C5 59 D4 B6 78 46 1C EE 56 -- JAY VOLLMER[EMAIL PROTECTED] TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 14:05, Kai Ponte wrote: Yes - and before anyone else freaks out about how to get back (I did) CTRL+ALT+F7 gets you back. :P But, when you got back... is X (KDE) unlocked? -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Another about Enlightenment 0.17
Hi, I like very very much Enlightenment 0.17, but modules don't work at all. The window messages are not found linux-gnu-x86_64/modules/module.so or something like this. Any of you also have the same problem? Any help will be appreciated. I've been googleing a bit but no answer. Thanks everybody. AOP. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Will Somebody Rid Us Of These List Police (WAS: Re: [opensuse] On-topic list, anyone?)
* Dylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-23-07 14:02]: Please, can't you people find something more important to worry about in life? You have lost sight. Many of us come here to read, learn about and assist or ask for assistance about technical and/or installation issues with openSUSE; I believe the primary reason for the list. NOT to read the local newspaper or discuss politics. Novell/SuSE/openSUSE has graciously provided a list for postings not fitting technical and/or installation isues. Its called opensuse-offtopic. You may subscribe and then discuss to your fill all issues apart from this list's purpose. Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by mlmmj X-Mailinglist: opensuse-offtopic List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have a problem subscribing, contact me off-list and I will be happy to assist you. Any further discussion of this topic SHOULD take place on the OT list. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
Have you tried a different window manager like WindowMaker that one works usually when I have had issues with KDE??? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] Re: alt-F1?
On 23-May-07 18:54:52, Jonathan Arnold wrote: (Ted Harding) wrote: On 23-May-07 16:52:24, John E. Perry wrote: I've seen several statements lately that one gets to the black console screens via alt-F1. When I do this, I get the KDE menu. I have to do ctrl-alt-Fx to get to the consoles. As far as I know, my system is a simple standard opensuse 10.2 with the basic suse updates through opensuseupdater. No hacks, no obscure window manager additions. Why is my X different? Should I be concerned? John Perry The behaviour you describe is standard, and has been, on Linux, since X came in (early-mid 90s). The Alt-Fn statements you have seen refer to swapping between black consoles. So, from one black cosole, say Console 1, you can swap to any other, say Console 5, with Alt-F5. Of course, Alt-F7 will take you to the console which is running X. From an X console, however, to get to any other console you must use Ctrl-Alt-Fn. So Ctrl-Alt-F1 will take you to black console 1, for instance. The reason X is different is that, depending on the window manager, Alt-Fn will have some other function in X. This again is standard. And that's why it's easier to just get in the Ctrl-Alt-Fn mode, because that works from either a virtual terminal or X. I recently wrote a short bit about this: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/archives/000872.html Which is fair anough -- though once you get used to it, it's no trouble to use Alt-Fn from a console. (Mind you, I got used to Alt-Fn back in 1992, before X came in, and all you had was black consoles and Alt-Fn. So for me, Ctrl-Alt-Fn is an add-on)! Of course, the point of all these posts on this thread is to clarify what was puzzling John Perry in the firstplace. I hope we've done that! Best wishes to all, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 23-May-07 Time: 21:15:50 -- XFMail -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with syslog-ng syntax
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-05-24 at 00:32 +1000, Registration Account wrote: All that is required is simply source src {internal(); udp(ip(0.0.0.0) port(514)); }; This line is present in PC IP that receives the data and without a destination will default to the system log messages Obviously. We all did it and personally I would like to know if anyone has success in creating an additional source. I really don't believe its possible. But of course we do... and told you how. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD0DBQFGVKFJtTMYHG2NR9URAkBNAI9dArfA/6YAzO+1bS7LsXcPdTgAoI7gsr0y 9kKGpmnoPmPLqaJXkMPn =MVkB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] How does Speedstep work with Dual2 Core
Can someone explain, how Speedstep work with a T7200, for example? I am wondering about that ever both CPUs are at the same frequence, 1GHz or 2GHz. I've heard about different frequences on the CPUs is possible and automatically done with ondemand scaling governor!!!??? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video
On Wednesday 23 May 2007, Jim Flanagan wrote: Hi Lee, My xorg.cong contains all these lines, except the dri. The others are there, but not in the same order. Does that matter? I have not added dri yet, should I? Sax2 is detecting my 9800 Pro as R350 NH. I believe that is correct. The 3D box is grayed out, don't have access to it. I do have a spare 9200 laying around that I could throw in this machine if that would help, but from what you indicated the 9800 Pro should work well with the default drivers. With the default install I was only getting about 23fps in glxgears, way too slow for this card. That is why I was trying to install the ATI drivers. Since then I can't run either glxgears or fglrxgears. And other stuff is not right, like screensaver. Many thanks, Jim F = No, it doesn't matter in what order they are in, but all of them should be there! Sounds like it is seeing the card correctly and I'm pretty sure that card is supported. What version of xorg are you running? If it's the build that came with 10.0, that version may not support that card fully, but will do excellent 2d. That may be your problem and the reason the 3D box is greyed out to you. I do believe 7.1 and above supports the 9800 fully though. I'll look in the changelog to see what it says. Either way, you should be able to add the dri module to get some 3D now, although it may not be exceptional, it should still work. good luck, Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video
BandiPat wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007, Jim Flanagan wrote: Hi Lee, My xorg.cong contains all these lines, except the dri. The others are there, but not in the same order. Does that matter? I have not added dri yet, should I? Sax2 is detecting my 9800 Pro as R350 NH. I believe that is correct. The 3D box is grayed out, don't have access to it. I do have a spare 9200 laying around that I could throw in this machine if that would help, but from what you indicated the 9800 Pro should work well with the default drivers. With the default install I was only getting about 23fps in glxgears, way too slow for this card. That is why I was trying to install the ATI drivers. Since then I can't run either glxgears or fglrxgears. And other stuff is not right, like screensaver. Many thanks, Jim F = No, it doesn't matter in what order they are in, but all of them should be there! Sounds like it is seeing the card correctly and I'm pretty sure that card is supported. What version of xorg are you running? If it's the build that came with 10.0, that version may not support that card fully, but will do excellent 2d. That may be your problem and the reason the 3D box is greyed out to you. I do believe 7.1 and above supports the 9800 fully though. I'll look in the changelog to see what it says. Either way, you should be able to add the dri module to get some 3D now, although it may not be exceptional, it should still work. good luck, Lee Hi all, I will try adding the dri now. I had previously updated all xorg stuff to the latest, which it got from one of the sources I added, (I believe from ftp.gwdg.de..., but not sure). The version for xorg now is 7.2-146.7-i586. Will revert. Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
On Wed, May 23, 2007 12:19 pm, M Harris wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007 14:05, Kai Ponte wrote: Yes - and before anyone else freaks out about how to get back (I did) CTRL+ALT+F7 gets you back. :P But, when you got back... is X (KDE) unlocked? No, it wasn't. In fact it was locked up tight. HOWEVER... ...I left it in the locked state for a few hours. Went off to a meeting, and it has been working perfectly. Could it have been The Return of Beagle? I'd forgotten about the dog, and I have it running. I currently have KDE System guard running to see if anything is stealing my processes, but so far, it has worked flawlessly for the past hour. I wonder if BeagleD or some other rogue process simply had taken over and now is finished doing whatever it was. Go figure! Anyway, back to our regular list full of exciting flame wars, boobie pics and beer threads oh wait. Wrong group. My bad! -- k -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video
Jim Flanagan wrote: BandiPat wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007, Jim Flanagan wrote: Hi Lee, My xorg.cong contains all these lines, except the dri. The others are there, but not in the same order. Does that matter? I have not added dri yet, should I? Sax2 is detecting my 9800 Pro as R350 NH. I believe that is correct. The 3D box is grayed out, don't have access to it. I do have a spare 9200 laying around that I could throw in this machine if that would help, but from what you indicated the 9800 Pro should work well with the default drivers. With the default install I was only getting about 23fps in glxgears, way too slow for this card. That is why I was trying to install the ATI drivers. Since then I can't run either glxgears or fglrxgears. And other stuff is not right, like screensaver. Many thanks, Jim F = No, it doesn't matter in what order they are in, but all of them should be there! Sounds like it is seeing the card correctly and I'm pretty sure that card is supported. What version of xorg are you running? If it's the build that came with 10.0, that version may not support that card fully, but will do excellent 2d. That may be your problem and the reason the 3D box is greyed out to you. I do believe 7.1 and above supports the 9800 fully though. I'll look in the changelog to see what it says. Either way, you should be able to add the dri module to get some 3D now, although it may not be exceptional, it should still work. good luck, Lee Hi all, I will try adding the dri now. I had previously updated all xorg stuff to the latest, which it got from one of the sources I added, (I believe from ftp.gwdg.de..., but not sure). The version for xorg now is 7.2-146.7-i586. OK, X will not start with the load dri in xorg.conf. Black screen of death. I do have keyboard control, but no X. I removed it and now back to the desktop. I'm starting to think this card is not very well supported, by neither ATI nor xorg. I could try my older Radeon 9200 , oops, sorry, it a 9000 with 64mb ram. But, the problem still my be something else which is causing glxinfo to not run. I guess I could have just re-installed the entire 10.2 system, time wise this would have been faster, but I don't want to do that. I really want to figure this thing out, how this X stuff works. So at the risk of making the one of those threads that just wont die, I'll try another uninstall if KDE, then deleting ~/.kde (saving my kmail file first of course), then reinstall KDE to see if that fixes the other stuff. As to whether the radeon 9800 pro will work with 3d or not, will find out then. Will report back. Many thanks, Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] gsat compile errors
On Wed, 23 May 2007 15:43:55 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Im trying to get gsat compiled on 10.2. I get: make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/predict-2.2.3/clients/gsat-1.1.0/src' gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o gsat main.o support.o interface.o callbacks.o comms.o plugins.o db.o prefs.o -L/opt/gnome/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm /usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../i586-suse-linux/bin/ld: errno: TLS definition in /lib/libc.so.6 section .tbss mismatches non-TLS reference in callbacks.o /lib/libc.so.6: could not read symbols: Bad value Better ask on opensuse-programing as there's a much better chance of getting help there. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: KDE question?
Will Stephenson wrote: Lee is right - we patch the kde.org tarballs extensively. SUSE does after all have more KDE developers than any other distro, AFAIK, and it would be a shame for us to have to play frozen-bubble all day. And may I take this opportunity to say thanks for all the hard work put into KDE. You all make Linux something hard NOT to brag about. I really appreciate the quality added on, it has made for a pleasant user experience. So, to you Will, and Stephan, and the rest, THANKS! -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Wanna umask inhereted from parent directory
James Knott wrote: James Knott wrote: Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi Joachim, Do you know where I can set the umask globally in Suse? /etc/initscript Also /etc/login.defs James, I don't know about 10.2, but in 10.0 /etc/initscript does not exist. Changing UMASK in /etc/login.defs does NOT change the umask globally. It just changes the access rights of newly created home directories (by useradd, cf. the comments above the UMASK entry in that file). The umask in SUSE 10.0 is set globally in /etc/profile. To change it, one adds a file with umask 002 to /etc/profile.d/, or one creates /etc/profile.local. I dunno about 10.2, maybe there /etc/initscripts changes the situation. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Wanna umask inhereted from parent directory
Joachim Schrod wrote: James Knott wrote: James Knott wrote: Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi Joachim, Do you know where I can set the umask globally in Suse? /etc/initscript Also /etc/login.defs James, I don't know about 10.2, but in 10.0 /etc/initscript does not exist. Changing UMASK in /etc/login.defs does NOT change the umask globally. It just changes the access rights of newly created home directories (by useradd, cf. the comments above the UMASK entry in that file). The umask in SUSE 10.0 is set globally in /etc/profile. To change it, one adds a file with umask 002 to /etc/profile.d/, or one creates /etc/profile.local. I dunno about 10.2, maybe there /etc/initscripts changes the situation. Joachim Initscripts is in 10.2. However, I know of nothing that can go through a file system and change all the permission bits, other than a script that crawls through the file system. As you mentioned, the umask setting, no matter where it is, will only affect new directories. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Wanna umask inhereted from parent directory
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: Onsdag 23 maj 2007 09:49 skrev Joachim Schrod: Fajar Priyanto wrote: How do I achive the default umask inhereted from the parent directory? I read some suggestions from google to adjust the global default umask, but I think it's a bit risky, or is it the only way? Phil answered your question how to enable the RH behavior by setting the umask globally. If you don't want to do this, there is the possibility to use access control lists (ACLs); the default ACL determines the access right of newly created files. I don't know if the global umask setting is sufficient for you, so I stop here with the explanation; ask, if you need more info. perhaps I don't understand your problem, but could you not just put umask 002 (or whatever you desire) into .bashrc in the /home/geecko directory? I don't have a problem. :-) The ability to set the umask was already pointed out by Phil -- and that was mentioned in my post, cited by you, above. But the OP asked also if this isn't too risky, read it above, namely without the rest of the RH setup that associates a group for every user. The answer is, as so often: It depends on your situation. Changing the umask globally for all or even for one user may not be what the OP actually wants. I just wanted to add the hint that there are also the ability to use ACLs to control the access to shared directories. Maybe that fits more the OP's situation -- without knowing his actual use case, there won't be an easy answer. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Wanna umask inhereted from parent directory
Fajar Priyanto wrote: Do you know where I can set the umask globally in Suse? For all users: create /etc/profile.local with the umask command. For a group of users: Place it in their ~/.profile. However, I don't think setting up the umask globally would be as safe as in RH, because Suse doesn't use the concept of UPG (user private group). So, if I set the umask globally, then it means every user can access those files and directory in the test directory. Yes, that's right. This setting is only sensible if you don't use users as the group for these accounts, but a specific (different) group. You mean ACL as in extended ACL from setfacl? Yep. As an example, I use the following ACL setting on a SVN repository directory to ensure that www-data has always read access and group texcatal has write access, on newly created files in that directory tree: comedy:~ # getfacl /home/ctan/texcatalogue_svn getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names # file: home/ctan/texcatalogue_svn # owner: ftpmaint # group: server user::rwx user:www-data:r-x group::r-x group:texcatal:rwx mask::rwx other::--- default:user::rwx default:user:www-data:r-x default:group::r-x default:group:texcatal:rwx default:mask::rwx default:other::--- (Btw, this is the SVN repository that drives the TeX-Catalogue, at http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/catalogue.html.) I think I can try create the UPG situation like in RH, but it means I have to remove all related users from the 'user' group. Not practical. Then ACL might be the way to go. Or, after some browsing on /etc/apparmor directory, I think it's possible to set the umask for the 'test' directory and files. Sorry, can't help with AppArmor; I don't use it. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 12:42 -0400, George Stoianov wrote: I think you should be using the smp kernel. What kind of a machine do you have? Anything in the system logs? IIRC for 10.2 the kernel default is the smp kernel. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 20:44, Mike McMullin wrote: On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 12:42 -0400, George Stoianov wrote: I think you should be using the smp kernel. What kind of a machine do you have? Anything in the system logs? IIRC for 10.2 the kernel default is the smp kernel. What happens if you use this kernel on a machine that has only one processor, or is the install smart enough to figure all this out? --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Somebody Rid Us Of These List Police (WAS: Re: [opensuse] On-topic list, anyone?)
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 16:03 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Dylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-23-07 14:02]: Please, can't you people find something more important to worry about in life? You have lost sight. Many of us come here to read, learn about and assist or ask for assistance about technical and/or installation issues with openSUSE; I believe the primary reason for the list. NOT to read the local newspaper or discuss politics. Novell/SuSE/openSUSE has graciously provided a list for postings not fitting technical and/or installation isues. Its called opensuse-offtopic. You may subscribe and then discuss to your fill all issues apart from this list's purpose. The benefit to this is that the signal to noise ratio will drastically improve. I've been trashing 99+% of stuff coming through do to the noise content. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]