Re: [opensuse-factory] No ftp-Installation over local Network
Hello, Neotron wrote: When I type in the IP the error message is: A valid domain name consists of components seperated by dots. Each component contains letters, digits an hyphens. A hyphen may not start or end a component and the last component man not begin with a digit. It's https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=288445 and lost somewhere at bnc-team-screaming... Bye, CzP - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] resolv.conf
Günther J. Niederwimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, is this known ? after new installing Alpha 7 (nfs) from factory and configure the network no resolv.conf is written ? This sounds like a bug - please report it. thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp2SQQtJkqfr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] displaymanager_autologin=
Günther J. Niederwimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, is this featcher is gon ? I can't find it any more in the /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager It shouldn't be. It should be also in /var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.displaymanager which is part of xorg-x11. Just checked and it's there. If it's really missing on your system in /etc/sysconfig, please check what happened - there might be a bug elsewhere, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpCrrHCG5Bks.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] NumLock is still off - bug 294295
Krupanský Rastislav wrote: So, i´d like to ask.Does anybody work on bug #294295?It seems nobody works on it. You were asked to provide information in the bug. It's your turn. Michal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse-factory] NumLock is still off - bug 294295
Yes, i know.I´ve just received e-mail from bugzilla :-) -Original Message- From: Michal Marek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:29 AM To: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] NumLock is still off - bug 294295 Krupanský Rastislav wrote: So, i´d like to ask.Does anybody work on bug #294295?It seems nobody works on it. You were asked to provide information in the bug. It's your turn. Michal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] No ftp-Installation over local Network
On Friday 03 August 2007 06:46:01 Peter Czanik wrote: I really miss the 'My Reports' link from the new Bugzilla interface... It's now in the --Bugzilla-- combo box left to the upper right search field. Bye, Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] No ftp-Installation over local Network
Am Freitag, 3. August 2007 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Neotron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I wanted to install openSUSE 10.3-Alpha7 from my local FTP/NFS-Server So i have to type in the IP-adress of the FTP/NFS-Server but it is not accepted by the install-program. The problem appears while Preparation - System Analysis - Initializing installation catalogs... When I type in the IP the error message is: A valid domain name consists of components seperated by dots. Each component contains letters, digits an hyphens. A hyphen may not start or end a component and the last component man not begin with a digit. What did you enter? Andreas I entered the IP-Adress of my FTP/NFS-Server. Both (FTP and NFS) ar reachable by other machines. But as I see in other postings, the problem is already in Bugzilla Thx Neotron - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Yast Meta Package Handler (ymp)
On 01/08/07, Dominique Leuenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a question / suggestion for the ymp handler (thank Benji btw!) I think it could be of big advantage if the ymp file could contain sort of 'variables' inside, like at least the installes openSUSE Version. Just imagine the following tree (in fact, I have it like this): /repos/suse /10.0 /10.1 /10.2 /10.3 It would now be VERY handy for all users, if I could just offer one YMP, that contains a link to the repo and the handler replaces the $SUSEVER by the specific number. Of course, for the moment as only 10.3 will support it, it's not THAT interesting yet, but for sure this will come. There would be no need to offer a ymp per possible suse version I offer packages for. What is everybody's opinion about that? Doable? Drawbacks? Yes, this is doable, and in fact already done. See http://en.opensuse.org/Standards/One_Click_Install for the updated schema. _ Benjamin Weber - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] NumLock is still off - bug 294295
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Krupanský Rastislav schreef: Hello I´ve installed KDE cd aplha7 and NumLock is still off after boot.Problem isn´t solved.From dvd (aplha6) it worked for me, but from KDE cd not:-( So, i´d like to ask.Does anybody work on bug #294295?It seems nobody works on it. Best regards, Rasťo I must say, that it is realy anoying for laptop-users that have no extended keyboard, but use fn-keys for activating numlock. The way to have numlock on by default, means that you must allways notice this. fe: A password made with numlock on is different when numlock is off. Sometimes, this is very confusing. You *allways* have to remember/be aware of the fact, that numlock is on by default ;-), and shut it off, if you use a password in the fn-number zone, or use a password without fn-numpad... So if it was up to me, i would be glad, if it were not on by default ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-05-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.7 release 35.1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGs5IbX5/X5X6LpDgRAoo4AKCbLGHjgKfYVCfQWVizUXpdIA2xeACguQLu AUmg3JMVw30gYfFat7mWPP8= =9dgN -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] kde4
I recently downloaded a bunch of kde4 rpms via yast2. It took awhile and when finished I thought I would try it. Question is how! I have not found anything like startkde4. I already was aware of the new kde4 location other than /opt. What is the trick? Also is it reasonable to assume it could replace kde3 binaries and menus -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : [EMAIL PROTECTED] VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador http://counter.li.org #279316 Did you know? The transistor was invented by three white men. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] kde4
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 18:26 -0500, Donn Washburn wrote: I recently downloaded a bunch of kde4 rpms via yast2. It took awhile and when finished I thought I would try it. Question is how! I have not found anything like startkde4. I already was aware of the new kde4 location other than /opt. What is the trick? Also is it reasonable to assume it could replace kde3 binaries and menus I haven't tried this in the last couple of alphas, but it should still work this way: in the graphical login screen, click Session (lower left corner) before you type your password. You should see KDE4 as an option. Right now, the two versions of KDE can sit side by side. I'm not sure if the KDE4 apps are sufficiently stable to replace KDE3 just yet, but I suspect it's getting pretty close. Mike McCallister - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] kde4
On 8/4/07, Donn Washburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently downloaded a bunch of kde4 rpms via yast2. It took awhile and when finished I thought I would try it. Question is how! I have not found anything like startkde4. I already was aware of the new kde4 location other than /opt. What is the trick? Take a look at http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 If you have 'kdebase4-session' installed then it should appear as one of the sessions in KDM/GDM as Mike has said. For 10.3 it looks like 3.5 is going to be the default, but it will ship with some KDE4 apps which are sufficiently stable (i.e. kdegames). The KDE4 session will be available, however. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SN9C201 Sonic Webcam Drivers
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 02:21 +0200, Fernando Costa wrote: Hi all, I own a Sonic (Microdia) webcam that is not supported right now, but surfing the net I found the drivers that make the webcam works in Ubuntu Feisty. The driver is not opensource and it is just compiled for Ubuntu (a .deb package). Is there any way to install debian packages in openSUSE? openSUSE 10.2 Regards, So you did check here: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html I see the sn9c211 is supported - maybe get the developer to tweak the driver to work with 201 - or maybe do it yourself, or maybe it just works. Hans E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Gnome Keyring
Hi, How do I change the gnome-keyring password - I changed my password in yast and now I get a password dialog every time I open Evolution. Hans ps, running 10.2 KDE Evol 2.10 E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: HP PSP
Hello, On Aug 2 11:17 taharka wrote (shortened): Lexmark has excellent Unix/Linux support. Support is limited to their high end printers, which you will need to shell out the big bucks for though ;-) Exactly as described at http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/LinuxSupportByPrinterVendors But as far as I know there are no free PPD files public available for Lexmark PostScript printers. With free I mean of course under a free license. See http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/SuggestedPrinters#High-End_Printers and follow the link PPD file ... here on linuxprinting.org. which points to http://www.linuxprinting.org/download/PPD/ where no Lexmark PPD files are available. If there were free PPD files for Lexmark PostScript printers, I would include them in our manufacturer-PPDs package which contains currently more than 1600 free PPD files for more than 900 different printer models from various printer manufacturers. I know the above, by having worked in Lexmark's Unix/Linux technical support dept. here in Lexington ;-) This BTW, is Lexmark International's headquarters. Perhaps you know the right contact persons which can make a decission to provide free PPD files for Lexmark PostScript printers. If you contact them, please point them to http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Information_for_Printer_Manufacturers_Regarding_Linux_Support in particular the section about PostScript Printers. If they are interested, I would appreciate it to get in contact with people at Lexmark who are interested in out-of-the-box support for their PostScript printers via Linux distributors. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?
2007/8/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 05:37 -0400, Ciro Iriarte wrote: 2007/8/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the WikiPedia, that only the Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the 64-bit Core microarchitecture. All else is 32 Bit. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Yonah). Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah, (and all else before?). So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64 should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? :-) Al My Inspiron 6400 is running Opensuse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ciro Now I am flabbergasted! On which CPU's does OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 then run? On my normal X86_64 Athlon PC, OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 runs, but on a x86 it won't/can't install (understandably). Does it mean that if OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 installs that the x86-64 implementation works on the Inspiron 6400's Yonah? :-) Al My 6400 has a Core 2 Duo cpu My Athlon64 runs fine also with Suse 10.1 (although my nforce5 based M2N32-SLI mobo was too new at that time to be 100% supported) Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Default ethernet interface
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joachim Schrod wrote: G T Smith wrote: Edit the file /etc/udev/rules.d/30-net_persistent_names.rules change eth3 to eth0 and restart the network. Take care not to have another eth0 in this file !! That seems like a pretty kludgy way to do it. I just don't want KNetworkManager to use eth3 as the default interface on boot. Yes, changing that file would work, though I would probably have to reconfigure all the network settings for eth0 and eth3. Where does it store the setting to use eth3 as the primary interface? In the above file :-) The names are generated by udev from another rule set and added to this file... Addendum: This usually happens if one cloned a Linux system from one host to another, or if one exchanged Ethernet cards, or if one changes MAC addresses. Since you worte about reconfigure, you already had a configuration for eth0, and you could fall under one of these cases. That files holds a record of all previously configured Ethernet devices, and maps MAC addresses to device names. It operates under the assumption that a device name is allocated for a newly seen MAC address and then reserved for it -- which is a reasonable assumption for enterprise environments and not always true for SOHO and private environments. Joachim In my case I am fairly certain it is something eccentric in the hardware. Sony laptops while nice machines are not noted for their usability under linux, and while everything seems to work (I admit I have not tested the sony stick slot), you do have do tweak things in odd ways to get a result. The WiFi driver refuses to load from boot. However, it will load from the command line which I prefer anyway, tried various combinations of manual loading, boot loading all with same result. It adds a new entry to the file after each reboot with same hardware parameters but a new device name. (Under 9.3 the wired and wireless cards used to be randomly assigned eth0 and eth1, at least things are a bit more consistent now). - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGswEvasN0sSnLmgIRAm7fAJ0dDx0/jsln3u9ly6T9cIVxQA5TKgCfeXWO njHUV0L7cToOyf1Ao/pWdKk= =3+L8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 11:55 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote: intel-based notebooks with the centrino duo logo are supported MUCH BETTER by opensuse10.2. with these machines nearly EVERY hardware on it (bluetooth, wlan, sd-card) will work out-off-the-box. and today core 2 duos are much faster than Turion 64 X2. both can run opensuse10.2 64bit. both cost about the same. but core 2 duos are faster, and centrino notebooks work better. This is good info. It answers my comment to Ciro. Back to configuring a core 2 duo with the Dell on-line store! Ordering by phone saves a little cash as well. :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?
I have a Dell Inspiron 8000 which was running SuSE 9.2 Professional and was upgraded to openSuSE 10.2 recently. I've not had any issues with anything. WHat is more odd, is that Windows XP which originally shipped with the laptop would not recognize the video card when reinstalled, and so the laptop was shifted to Linux, which suits me just fine. Kevin On Friday 03 August 2007 05:37, Ciro Iriarte wrote: 2007/8/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the WikiPedia, that only the Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the 64-bit Core microarchitecture. All else is 32 Bit. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Yonah). Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah, (and all else before?). So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64 should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? :-) Al My Inspiron 6400 is running Opensuse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Rsync port
joe wrote: Hans Linux wrote: do i have to open specific port for rsync if i m running a firewall? Yes, if you're doing rsync with another machine over the network. Errm, it depends how you're using rsync and how the firewall is set up. First, rsync can run in two ways: (1) using an external transport, normally ssh (2) using an 'rsync daemon', rsyncd For the first method, setup is just the same as for ssh. For the second, it depends on what port you've configured rsyncd to run with (873 is default). That port needs to be open. In both cases, what setup is required will depend on what firewall on what version of the OS is being run and how rsync is installed (via yast or from a tarball etc etc) So a bit more info is needed to give a precise answer, but the Suse and/or rsync docs are pretty comprehensive. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?
Am Freitag, den 03.08.2007, 11:35 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 09:53 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 01.08.2007, 18:33 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 17:38 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote: and you can see at the top, that the cpu you can select is only a Pentium® Dual-Core T2080 or a T2130. both are NO core 2 duo. i would not recommend to buy such a Pentium® Dual-Core. -- You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the WikiPedia, that only the Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the 64-bit Core microarchitecture. All else is 32 Bit. no, there are also some pentiums with 64bit. Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah, that is correct. (and all else before?). as i said. there are some pentium models that also support 64bit. BUT! pentiums can't be compared to core 2 duos. core 2 duos are MUCH better/faster/energy-saving today, NEVER EVER buy a pentium or celeron. i would say, that today you also should not buy a core duo. core duos came months before core 2 duo, and also are not 64bit capable. core 2 duo is the best choice you have today. So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64 should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? it is very simple: a notebook with a 32bit cpu (regardless if pentium, celeron or core duo) will run opensuse10.2 32bit. a notebook with a 64bit cpu (regardless if 64bit-pentium or core 2 duo) will run opensuse10.2 64bit. Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? i whould not recommend that. intel-based notebooks with the centrino duo logo are supported MUCH BETTER by opensuse10.2. with these machines nearly EVERY hardware on it (bluetooth, wlan, sd-card) will work out-off-the-box. and today core 2 duos are much faster than Turion 64 X2. both can run opensuse10.2 64bit. both cost about the same. but core 2 duos are faster, and centrino notebooks work better. -- einen schönen Tag noch, bitte kein TOFU (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOFU) DI Rainer Klier Abteilung IT - Entwicklung ECOLOG Logistiksysteme GmbH Bauernstraße 11, A-4600 Wels Tel. ++43/7242/66200Fax ++43/7242/66200-200 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.ecolog.at Fb-Nummer 171431f Landesgericht Wels A member of TGW LOGISTICS GROUP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Scanner operation broken in opensuse 10.2(solved)
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 12:46 +0800, Art Fore wrote: On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 13:48 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-07-30 at 20:07 +0800, Art Fore wrote: Tried this again tonight, did get something different. Kooka found scanner, but prescan did not work. Xsane comes up with an error that HewlettPackard:Scanjet5300.drc is not a device-rc-file!!! Couuld not find any info on this file. Is this the problem? If so, where does it come from? File is there in proper path, but it is 0 bytes long. Not from any rpm from the distro. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGryGqtTMYHG2NR9URAvH8AJ0Voa3Ron2qEUjh7hnExXqr6soyywCeL1bv f8Cn8xwL1z7Jxa3wCVw5skA= =NYrf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Found out this is probably the file in /var/lib/sane directory. It was 0 bytes, but when I opened it, and saved it, it was 2.7 KB. Ended up deleting it and it was recreated by Yast and was 4.5 KB. Art Have given up on this. As it turns out, problem is in Kernel, Suse's solution is to install 10.3 which is still Alpha stage. Am not brave enough, expecially without instructions to try a Mandrake kernel patch, and do not feel comfortable with a new kernel compile as when I have done that before, it was noting but headache without exact instructiions which do not seem to be in existence for Suse. May try that when it goes to beta. Am going to try Kubuntu 7.04 on another machine and see how it works. In the meantime, I can use my Macbook if I need to scan. Art -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] DHCPd, how to ignore one particular host...
Hi list, On SUSE10.2, I've got my dhcp server running, serving out IPs just perfect. - for a number of reasons, I want one particular client (a windoze box) which is actually set to be a dhcp client, to be ignored by my dhcp server. I know the MAC adr of that box. How can I deny that box from getting an adress from my dhcp server? -- - Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: DHCPd, how to ignore one particular host...
Eberhard Roloff wrote: Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: Hi list, On SUSE10.2, I've got my dhcp server running, serving out IPs just perfect. - for a number of reasons, I want one particular client (a windoze box) which is actually set to be a dhcp client, to be ignored by my dhcp server. I know the MAC adr of that box. How can I deny that box from getting an adress from my dhcp server? If you only have a few computers, you could work with fixed MAC / IP Settings in your dhcpd.conf file (i.e. working with dhcp, but assigning fixed addresses to the clients) and then leave out your windows box. On a side note: If the windows box is on the same network but you do not want it to get an ip via dhcp, then you might want to assign a static setting outside your dhcp range and your problem with limiting the dhcp server will be gone. regards Eberhard ... and from http://www.luga.at/mailing-lists/luga/2004/09/msg00122.html # ignore requests for dhcpd-defence bait host dhcpbait { hardware ethernet 00:90:27:17:C8:DC; ignore booting; but beware, I never tried this! regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Copy hard drive
On Friday 03 August 2007 12:50:59 Jonathan Arnold wrote: SMART is saying that one of my hard drives is an accident waiting to happen and that I should replace it. No worries there, as I have two 160gb hard drives just sitting around in an unused box I was going to cannibalize anyway. But it does have / and /home on it, so what would be the best way to go about doing this? I think I have an IDE slot to plug in the new drive, or at least I could temporarily replace my CD or something. I assume I would want to use dd or something? Hi Jonathan The last time I did this, I used rsync --archive and it seemed to work well. I don't have any hard links in my home directory, so that wasn't a problem. Good luck Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Copy hard drive
Jonathan Arnold wrote: SMART is saying that one of my hard drives is an accident waiting to happen and that I should replace it. No worries there, as I have two 160gb hard drives just sitting around in an unused box I was going to cannibalize anyway. But it does have / and /home on it, so what would be the best way to go about doing this? I think I have an IDE slot to plug in the new drive, or at least I could temporarily replace my CD or something. I assume I would want to use dd or something? If they are the same size, dd is perfect. Otherwise, rsync is a good choice as well. But -a (as mentioned by Pete) is not sufficient, it looses hard links. Therefore, you should add at least -H and do the rsync file-system wise (otherwise the hard-link detection will fail). Of course, you can also use find -xdev $src_dir | cpio -pdmuV $dest_dir For local file tree copies, cpio is a fast true-and-tried method. You probably don't want to replace your CD, as you need it to boot the rescue system from the SUSE DVD, which you will use to copy /. Try to avoid copying / from an active system. Don't forget to grub --install the new disk afterwards, otherwise you won't be able to boot from it. Good luck, Joachim PS: That's the reason why all my systems use Software mirroring with md, even if there's only one disk in it. (Well, most have two mirrored disks anyhow -- disk prices are so low today.) If I need to replace the disk, I have almost no outage, this can be done with mdadm during normal usage, except for the very short time to put the disk into the chassis. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Copy hard drive
SMART is saying that one of my hard drives is an accident waiting to happen and that I should replace it. No worries there, as I have two 160gb hard drives just sitting around in an unused box I was going to cannibalize anyway. But it does have / and /home on it, so what would be the best way to go about doing this? I think I have an IDE slot to plug in the new drive, or at least I could temporarily replace my CD or something. I assume I would want to use dd or something? -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Starting Firefox maximized?
Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: Hey guys! For some reason my firefox starts not maximized now. Is there any way to start it maximized? I've checked the properties of the shortcuts, googling, man firefox, no luck. It more depends on your window manager. For KDE, you can play with the Advanced... Window Settings and Application Settings, found in the system menu (click on the icon at the top left of the window). Be warned though - I've found that these options almost never work like you imagine and, even worse, end up applying to all the windows that Firefox pops up. So you end up with full screen windows and dialogs which is tres annoying. -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Default ethernet interface
G T Smith wrote: Joachim Schrod wrote: G T Smith wrote: Edit the file /etc/udev/rules.d/30-net_persistent_names.rules change eth3 to eth0 and restart the network. Take care not to have another eth0 in this file !! Addendum: This usually happens if one cloned a Linux system from one host to another, or if one exchanged Ethernet cards, or if one changes MAC addresses. Since you worte about reconfigure, you already had a configuration for eth0, and you could fall under one of these cases. That files holds a record of all previously configured Ethernet devices, and maps MAC addresses to device names. It operates under the assumption that a device name is allocated for a newly seen MAC address and then reserved for it -- which is a reasonable assumption for enterprise environments and not always true for SOHO and private environments. In my case I am fairly certain it is something eccentric in the hardware. Sony laptops while nice machines are not noted for their usability under linux, and while everything seems to work (I admit I have not tested the sony stick slot), you do have do tweak things in odd ways to get a result. Ah, one of these cases. I heard of them, but luckily never experienced them. All our Laptops are IBM Thinkpads, and they work like a charm. (Even the very old CS701, aka Butterfly, from 1996 -- though I run Slackware on it, this was easier to get really small.) Here's hoping that Lenovo doesn't bring down the quality of the TP T series that I like a lot. Maybe I should by a T61p while they are still good. ;-) Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Copy hard drive
Jonathan Arnold wrote: SMART is saying that one of my hard drives is an accident waiting to happen and that I should replace it. No worries there, as I have two 160gb hard drives just sitting around in an unused box I was going to cannibalize anyway. But it does have / and /home on it, so what would be the best way to go about doing this? I think I have an IDE slot to plug in the new drive, or at least I could temporarily replace my CD or something. I assume I would want to use dd or something? I use dd for this, assuming that the new drive is as big as or bigger than the old one. The resulting harddisk layout of course just mirrors the old disk so that you either will use the remaining space for something else or you will need to resize your partitions. For the latter parted/qtparted will be your friends ;-) regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Rsync port
On 08/03/2007 01:48 PM, joe wrote: Hans Linux wrote: do i have to open specific port for rsync if i m running a firewall? Yes, if you're doing rsync with another machine over the network. Only if he runs rsyncd, or the server daemon. If he only runs the client, no. I assume you are thinking over a network would be connecting to a rsync daemon, and then yes port 873 would need to be open on the machine running the daemon. HTH. AFAIK, he could use the client via ssh and even though networked, he would not need anything extra opened in the firewall. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 05:37 -0400, Ciro Iriarte wrote: 2007/8/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the WikiPedia, that only the Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the 64-bit Core microarchitecture. All else is 32 Bit. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Yonah). Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah, (and all else before?). So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64 should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? :-) Al My Inspiron 6400 is running Opensuse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ciro Now I am flabbergasted! On which CPU's does OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 then run? On my normal X86_64 Athlon PC, OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 runs, but on a x86 it won't/can't install (understandably). Does it mean that if OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 installs that the x86-64 implementation works on the Inspiron 6400's Yonah? :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Default ethernet interface
G T Smith wrote: Edit the file /etc/udev/rules.d/30-net_persistent_names.rules change eth3 to eth0 and restart the network. Take care not to have another eth0 in this file !! That seems like a pretty kludgy way to do it. I just don't want KNetworkManager to use eth3 as the default interface on boot. Yes, changing that file would work, though I would probably have to reconfigure all the network settings for eth0 and eth3. Where does it store the setting to use eth3 as the primary interface? In the above file :-) The names are generated by udev from another rule set and added to this file... Addendum: This usually happens if one cloned a Linux system from one host to another, or if one exchanged Ethernet cards, or if one changes MAC addresses. Since you worte about reconfigure, you already had a configuration for eth0, and you could fall under one of these cases. That files holds a record of all previously configured Ethernet devices, and maps MAC addresses to device names. It operates under the assumption that a device name is allocated for a newly seen MAC address and then reserved for it -- which is a reasonable assumption for enterprise environments and not always true for SOHO and private environments. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] retrieval of message number N in the archive
--- Greg Freemyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On 8/2/07, Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Thursday 2007-08-02 at 08:36 +0200, Theo Wollenleben wrote: For retrieval of a single message number N in the archive I have to send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it possible to find out the number N without downloading the compressed mbox from the archiv? Good question! The old list contained a header like this: X-Message-Number-for-archive: 275952 The current one doesn't. Nor is it possible to see the number in the web archive, I think. I don't know either, but you do know there is a searchable copy at: http://marc.info/?l=opensuse So if you know some content, or who sent it, you can drill down pretty quickly. I couldn't find the message number there nor could I find it in one of the following web archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/opensuse%40opensuse.org/ http://www.nabble.com/openSUSE-community-f15809.html http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.suse.opensuse.user But Gmane also provides access to the archive over its usenet server. It's possible to donwload only the message headers with a newsreader. The desired message number is found by displaying the full headers and looking for a header called Original-X-From. That's basically what I wanted though it would be nicer if lists.opensuse.org provided the message number in its web archive. __ Kennt man wirklich jeden über 3 Ecken? Die Antworten gibt's bei Yahoo! Clever. www.yahoo.de/clever -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Default ethernet interface
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andy Harrison wrote: On 8/2/07, Catimimi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Edit the file /etc/udev/rules.d/30-net_persistent_names.rules change eth3 to eth0 and restart the network. Take care not to have another eth0 in this file !! That seems like a pretty kludgy way to do it. I just don't want KNetworkManager to use eth3 as the default interface on boot. Yes, changing that file would work, though I would probably have to reconfigure all the network settings for eth0 and eth3. Where does it store the setting to use eth3 as the primary interface? In the above file :-) The names are generated by udev from another rule set and added to this file... Its a nice idea when it works... (I am afraid for my wireless config it doesnt... I used to get an incrementing network address allocation until I started tweaking this file). - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGsulyasN0sSnLmgIRAvzHAJ4tzgeMA6rIB9CsAlcPZwP/P94HkwCgj8RZ YKNMrrboxBf+hYCPxB8zc4A= =Fj7l -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Network connection doesn't work anymore--dhcpcd is still waiting for data
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, my network interface eth0 suddenly does not come up properly anymore (I'm using openSUSE 10.2), even though it continues to work fine when I use a Live CD or Windoze. I am absolutely not an expert on networking stuff. The only thing I realize is that, both during boot time and following a sudo /sbin/rcnetwork restart I see that message that eth0 is controlled by ifplugdwaiting Status is always waiting, never done The interface is configured via ifup and DHCP is selected (this setup worked until very recently) Any help on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated! Joachim Simplest first step would be to remove network card information via YaST and then reinstall from scratch. It is possible that the configuration has become corrupted. - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGsufSasN0sSnLmgIRAqGWAKDydwlQqMQA9Fi01C8xdvvKZsj/DACggZb6 SsYEtiMszaSxALNzR5O7hsw= =OZPa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Default ethernet interface
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/3/07, G T Smith wrote: In the above file :-) The names are generated by udev from another rule set and added to this file... Its a nice idea when it works... (I am afraid for my wireless config it doesnt... I used to get an incrementing network address allocation until I started tweaking this file). Strange. Based on the name rules file on my machine, you'd think that it actually would be using eth0 as primary. # This rules are autogenerated from /lib/udev/rename_netiface. # But you can modify them, but make sure that you don't use an interface name # twice. Also add such interface name rules only in this rules file. Otherwise # rename_netiface will create wrong rules for new interfaces. # It is safe to delete a rule, as long as you did not disable automatic rule # generation. Only if all interfaces get a rule the renaming will work # flawlessly. See also /etc/udev/rules.d/31-net_create_names.rules. # # Read /usr/share/doc/packages/sysconfig/README.Persistent_Interface_Names for # further information. # # Use only a-z, A-Z and 0-9 for interface names! # SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, SYSFS{address}==00:03:ba:f0:ce:50, IMPORT=/lib/udev/rename_netiface %k eth0 SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, SYSFS{address}==00:50:04:d2:73:7d, IMPORT=/lib/udev/rename_netiface %k eth1 SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, SYSFS{address}==00:03:ba:f0:ce:51, IMPORT=/lib/udev/rename_netiface %k eth3 SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, SYSFS{address}==00:50:04:62:0a:00, IMPORT=/lib/udev/rename_netiface %k eth2 - -- Andy Harrison public key: 0x67518262 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFGs1BaNTm8fWdRgmIRAm0FAKDZn3Rx8vOKZPfjq9h7Sc4yx7HLBQCg01Iu RouwSANUhuBAKKvXXZec9Ek= =FrAd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Have postfix limit email from 192.168.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.0/16 from Nat to Nat other IP's to any where.
Hello, Is there a way to have postfix limit sending email to only Natted IP's whill allowing all other to email any other system. I need to have any email from a 192.168.0.0/16 IP to only be able to send email to another 192.168.0.0/16 IP. Any ideas? Thanks, -- Boyd Gerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 09:53 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 01.08.2007, 18:33 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 17:38 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote: and before, check if the good 6400s are still sold by dell in your country I still can buy it in Germany. Look at this: (German I am afraid, but you can make out what it all is): http://configure2.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=c=decs=debsdt1kc=NRS64002l=deoc=N07642XPrbc=N07642XPs=bsd no problem, since i am from austria i am able to understand german ;-) but the link you gave brought me to the same configurator like the austrian-dell-page. and you can see at the top, that the cpu you can select is only a Pentium® Dual-Core T2080 or a T2130. both are NO core 2 duo. i would not recommend to buy such a Pentium® Dual-Core. -- You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the WikiPedia, that only the Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the 64-bit Core microarchitecture. All else is 32 Bit. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Yonah). Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah, (and all else before?). So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64 should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?
2007/8/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the WikiPedia, that only the Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the 64-bit Core microarchitecture. All else is 32 Bit. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Yonah). Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah, (and all else before?). So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64 should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? :-) Al My Inspiron 6400 is running Opensuse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Network connection doesn't work anymore--dhcpcd is still waiting for data
On 8/3/07, G T Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simplest first step would be to remove network card information via YaST and then reinstall from scratch. It is possible that the configuration has become corrupted. Thanks very much for helping out a n00b here! Did exactly that and it is working again.. Joachim == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGsufSasN0sSnLmgIRAqGWAKDydwlQqMQA9Fi01C8xdvvKZsj/DACggZb6 SsYEtiMszaSxALNzR5O7hsw= =OZPa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: DHCPd, how to ignore one particular host...
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: Hi list, On SUSE10.2, I've got my dhcp server running, serving out IPs just perfect. - for a number of reasons, I want one particular client (a windoze box) which is actually set to be a dhcp client, to be ignored by my dhcp server. I know the MAC adr of that box. How can I deny that box from getting an adress from my dhcp server? If you only have a few computers, you could work with fixed MAC / IP Settings in your dhcpd.conf file (i.e. working with dhcp, but assigning fixed addresses to the clients) and then leave out your windows box. On a side note: If the windows box is on the same network but you do not want it to get an ip via dhcp, then you might want to assign a static setting outside your dhcp range and your problem with limiting the dhcp server will be gone. regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Default ethernet interface
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andy Harrison wrote: On 8/3/07, G T Smith wrote: In the above file :-) The names are generated by udev from another rule set and added to this file... Its a nice idea when it works... (I am afraid for my wireless config it doesnt... I used to get an incrementing network address allocation until I started tweaking this file). Strange. Based on the name rules file on my machine, you'd think that it actually would be using eth0 as primary. # This rules are autogenerated from /lib/udev/rename_netiface. # But you can modify them, but make sure that you don't use an interface name # twice. Also add such interface name rules only in this rules file. Otherwise # rename_netiface will create wrong rules for new interfaces. # It is safe to delete a rule, as long as you did not disable automatic rule # generation. Only if all interfaces get a rule the renaming will work # flawlessly. See also /etc/udev/rules.d/31-net_create_names.rules. # # Read /usr/share/doc/packages/sysconfig/README.Persistent_Interface_Names for # further information. # # Use only a-z, A-Z and 0-9 for interface names! # SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, SYSFS{address}==00:03:ba:f0:ce:50, IMPORT=/lib/udev/rename_netiface %k eth0 SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, SYSFS{address}==00:50:04:d2:73:7d, IMPORT=/lib/udev/rename_netiface %k eth1 SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, SYSFS{address}==00:03:ba:f0:ce:51, IMPORT=/lib/udev/rename_netiface %k eth3 SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, SYSFS{address}==00:50:04:62:0a:00, IMPORT=/lib/udev/rename_netiface %k eth2 This is telling me that you have at one time or another had four different cards with the MAC addresses. 00:03:ba:f0:ce:50 00:50:04:d2:73:7d 00:03:ba:f0:ce:51 00:50:04:62:0a:00 If you have only one remove, all of these references and reboot and things may settle down. (Make a backup copy of file just in case). If you have more than one network interface be a bit more careful and identify which card you want on which interface and edit accordingly. - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGs1+RasN0sSnLmgIRAgnwAKCpnsPxdGiuaurkXFbhhBxigwJkWQCeK78d zatsO/bmtti7thvJm1vfxbo= =/xw4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Default ethernet interface
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/3/07, G T Smith wrote: This is telling me that you have at one time or another had four different cards with the MAC addresses. 00:03:ba:f0:ce:50 00:50:04:d2:73:7d 00:03:ba:f0:ce:51 00:50:04:62:0a:00 If you have only one remove, all of these references and reboot and things may settle down. (Make a backup copy of file just in case). If you have more than one network interface be a bit more careful and identify which card you want on which interface and edit accordingly. This machine actually does have 4 ethernet interfaces. Two onboard and two pci. I only care about the two onboard and I do actually want eth3 to work, I just don't want it to be primary. The eth3 interface is just connected to a lab network and it won't even have a default gateway or anything. - -- Andy Harrison public key: 0x67518262 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFGs25MNTm8fWdRgmIRAg/GAJ9cCn7JQ1JRH9UudC86LXD+s3WRIACbBCsb qvdxVLbnkVkyPXTODil5A0s= =opBM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Resized Partition Issue
On Wednesday 01 August 2007 23:00, Rajko M. wrote: Google on resize ext3 partition: http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/resizing-ext3-partitions-with-p arted http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75438.html http://www.hafenscher.net/wiki/index.php?page=How_to_resize_an _EXT3_partition http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions and so on. I have read the above but can't get parted to recognize hda2 .or hda3. I installed OpenSuSE 10.2 in a new box with an 80 G hard drive. The default values use the whole disk. I want to make room for more distros. I booted with a Ubuntu disk and added hda2 and hda3 in /etc/fstab as follows: unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/hda1 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda2 / ext3 defaults 0 0 /dev/hda3 /home ext3 defaults 0 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo tune2fs -O^has_journal /dev/hda2 tune2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo parted /dev/hda2 resize 21476 8000 Error: Partition doesn't exist. Information: Don't forget to update /etc/fstab, if necessary. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ What am I missing? Marty -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Resized Partition Issue
On 8/3/07, Martin Nopola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read the above but can't get parted to recognize hda2 .or hda3. I installed OpenSuSE 10.2 in a new box with an 80 G hard drive. The default values use the whole disk. I want to make room for more distros. I booted with a Ubuntu disk and added hda2 and hda3 in /etc/fstab as follows: unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/hda1 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda2 / ext3 defaults 0 0 /dev/hda3 /home ext3 defaults 0 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo tune2fs -O^has_journal /dev/hda2 tune2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo parted /dev/hda2 resize 21476 8000 Error: Partition doesn't exist. Information: Don't forget to update /etc/fstab, if necessary. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ What am I missing? You are missing the create partitions part :) Just adding entries in fstab does not create partitions. You need first to resize the partition on which suse resides. If you use ubutu, I think the the right tool is gparted (I may be wrong). After you resize this partition, you can create new ones on the freed space. But before you resize the partition, make sure u resize the filesystem, otherwise you will corrupt it. Actually, I still do not know exactly your situation. Is it: 1. Install suse with default settings (i.e. use the whole disk) 2. run ubuntu live cd or 2. install ubuntu, letting it to resize the suse partition and make space for itself? Cheers -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] ocfs2 package updates?
The Factory version of the ocfs2 package I just downloaded still contains buggy 1.2.2 code. I suspect that the repository used for SLES 10 SP1 has a newer version, as the network timeout knobs were added, but I'm really not intentionally installing SLES ever again. So, all of that said, does anyone know if there are plans to update the ocfs2 package to a more current, far less buggy version? jeff -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SN9C201 Sonic Webcam Drivers
Hans van der Merwe wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 02:21 +0200, Fernando Costa wrote: Hi all, I own a Sonic (Microdia) webcam that is not supported right now, but surfing the net I found the drivers that make the webcam works in Ubuntu Feisty. The driver is not opensource and it is just compiled for Ubuntu (a .deb package). Is there any way to install debian packages in openSUSE? openSUSE 10.2 Regards, So you did check here: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html I see the sn9c211 is supported - maybe get the developer to tweak the driver to work with 201 - or maybe do it yourself, or maybe it just works. Hans E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm I checked the web site, but although the SN9C211 is supported, it doesn't work with my webcam and I neither know how to contact the developer nor develope it myself if you know how to do any of them, i'll appreciate any guide... F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Resized Partition Issue SOLVED!
On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 02:14:34 +0200 Fernando Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your reply, I used the GParted Live CD to repair the filesystem and my OS recognizes all the partition size... Wonderful. There are some very good tools on Linux. Even the Windows professionals I know use Linux tools to to fix broken Windows servers. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Default ethernet interface
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andy Harrison wrote: On 8/3/07, G T Smith wrote: This is telling me that you have at one time or another had four different cards with the MAC addresses. 00:03:ba:f0:ce:50 00:50:04:d2:73:7d 00:03:ba:f0:ce:51 00:50:04:62:0a:00 If you have only one remove, all of these references and reboot and things may settle down. (Make a backup copy of file just in case). If you have more than one network interface be a bit more careful and identify which card you want on which interface and edit accordingly. This machine actually does have 4 ethernet interfaces. Two onboard and two pci. I only care about the two onboard and I do actually want eth3 to work, I just don't want it to be primary. The eth3 interface is just connected to a lab network and it won't even have a default gateway or anything. The order of the numbering of the devices is really irrelevant has (as far as I know) no impact on the device priority, (it is how you define what gets delivered where that is a bit more critical). You can change the device names as you see fit by editing this file, provided each device name is unique (and you keep to the conventions, designating a network device as hda1 is probably not a good idea :-) ). Most things connect using the IP address of the interface, it is really only the network configuration tools which make use of device names. SuSE store device related IP info and other stuff in files of the form ifcfg-type-id-MAC ADDRESS in /etc/sysconfig/network ... type may be eth or wlan (dunno about other network device types) so the IP address component is effectively tied to the MAC address of the card. (BTW I would not recommend editing these outside of YaST unless you really know what you are doing). - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGs4sIasN0sSnLmgIRAg/6AJ4wB5vSRsnodtaoQ49gnTCBcg1mMwCg7EXZ 8q5g1VilyG8W284eqKEgBg8= =hMJS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Copy hard drive
On 8/3/07, Eberhard Roloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Arnold wrote: SMART is saying that one of my hard drives is an accident waiting to happen and that I should replace it. No worries there, as I have two 160gb hard drives just sitting around in an unused box I was going to cannibalize anyway. But it does have / and /home on it, so what would be the best way to go about doing this? I think I have an IDE slot to plug in the new drive, or at least I could temporarily replace my CD or something. I assume I would want to use dd or something? I use dd for this, assuming that the new drive is as big as or bigger than the old one. The resulting harddisk layout of course just mirrors the old disk so that you either will use the remaining space for something else or you will need to resize your partitions. For the latter parted/qtparted will be your friends ;-) regards Eberhard I too would use dd for this, but be sure to use the conv=sync,noerror argument. Otherwise if you do have a failed sector read the resulting copy will be garbage. Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Have postfix limit email from 192.168.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.0/16 from Nat to Nat other IP's to any where.
Fri, 03 Aug 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Is there a way to have postfix limit sending email to only Natted IP's whill allowing all other to email any other system. I need to have any email from a 192.168.0.0/16 IP to only be able to send email to another 192.168.0.0/16 IP. Any ideas? http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html#external Theo -- Theo v. WerkhovenRegistered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 10.2 + Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kernel 2.6.20 + See headers for PGP/GPG info. Claimer: any email I receive will become my property. Disclaimers do not apply. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Copy hard drive
Fri, 03 Aug 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SMART is saying that one of my hard drives is an accident waiting to happen and that I should replace it. No worries there, as I have two 160gb hard drives just sitting around in an unused box I was going to cannibalize anyway. But it does have / and /home on it, so what would be the best way to go about doing this? I think I have an IDE slot to plug in the new drive, or at least I could temporarily replace my CD or something. I assume I would want to use dd or something? I came across 'Clonezilla' the other day, a wonderful tool. It lets you make clones of drives in mere minutes, copying only the used parts. It works with all the usual Linux filesystems, plus NTFS. You can also make images on servers running SSH, or on a dedicated Image drive, for archive purposes. There is a live cd with GParted and Clonezilla together, just the combo you need when a drive treatens to fail. Highly recommended. Theo -- Theo v. WerkhovenRegistered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 10.2 + Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kernel 2.6.20 + See headers for PGP/GPG info. Claimer: any email I receive will become my property. Disclaimers do not apply. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:00:23 +0300, Munkii wrote: That way you get a rpm package compiled specifically for your system that, when installed, is registered with the system and easily removable. there is still the dependency problem i mentioned earlier, look it up.. Actually the dependency problems are rather small. I took a spec for Fedora 6 and could use that with small changes. But something else is broken in the source that I have to research. I'll report when I have a working package. Maybe Pascal (aka GURU) will take on from there. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Resized Partition Issue
On Friday 03 August 2007 15:01, Sunny wrote: Just adding entries in fstab does not create partitions. You need first to resize the partition on which suse resides. If you use ubutu, I think the the right tool is gparted (I may be wrong). After you resize this partition, you can create new ones on the freed space. But before you resize the partition, make sure u resize the filesystem, otherwise you will corrupt it. Thanks Sunny. And Jerry Feldman. GParted is on the Ubuntu CD and works like a charm. I shrank both partitions to make room for other distros. I did not resize and the installed SuSE 10.2 seems to be ok. I spent many hours trying to find out why YaST, cfdisk and parted don't work. Marty -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] RE: Damaged Master Boot Record
Thanks Jim, for the only reply that is relevant I did try this option without success. The boot partition is hda and the bootloader option showed this partition as correct. What I need are 2 things. 1. How do I dismount all the drives to run fsck at Xterm? 2. How do I use fdisk to re-write MBR from xterm? The second one might be difficult as there is plently of info on re-creating a LiLO MBR but not GRUB on the internet Yes I have run other utils off the CD1 menu, some work and yet some indicate 1 error with 1 file (smpt?) from memory but can not repair it. I chose the option to recover lost files and the NTFS partitions were re-created - I have formatted ALL HDD 4-6 times since I ever had an NTFS partition!!!?? I have check the the bootloader file and all is in order via YAST. I am running clamAV with freshclam at the moment from xterm as the GUI is all stuffed up with an error unable to parse option just in case. Background - The unit is my F/S ( I have backups) it has been running for over 18month non stop without issue. The error started when I suspended the unit to HDD after that the MBR was screwed. I have tried all 3 disks to hold the MBR and I cannot believe all HDD have faulty track 0 cylinder 1 all physically damaged. Scott Jim Flanagan wrote: Registration Account wrote: I have 3 HDD in my PC. No matter which Disk I partition to be the boot drive via the GUI Partitioner, I cannot boot the PC from HDD. I am sure the MBR is corrupted - I am using GRUB with NO NTFS Partitions. I cannot find many clear directions on how to re-write the MBR. Can some one please help me with a few clear directions on how to correct this - Perhaps after replying to me you might like to consider writing a SDB page on this as there is little info on this Thanks Scott Boot from your opensuse install disk. Select 'installation' (you will not do a complete install). Select your language, accept license. At that point select 'other optionsrepair installed system'. Then select 'expert options', then 'install new boot loader'. That should do it. Jim smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [opensuse] RE: Damaged Master Boot Record
Sorry I forgot to mention I am using ex2 File system and I have 1 RAID0 containing 3 partitions sorry for not advising you before. Scott Registration Account wrote: Thanks Jim, for the only reply that is relevant I did try this option without success. The boot partition is hda and the bootloader option showed this partition as correct. What I need are 2 things. 1. How do I dismount all the drives to run fsck at Xterm? 2. How do I use fdisk to re-write MBR from xterm? The second one might be difficult as there is plently of info on re-creating a LiLO MBR but not GRUB on the internet Yes I have run other utils off the CD1 menu, some work and yet some indicate 1 error with 1 file (smpt?) from memory but can not repair it. I chose the option to recover lost files and the NTFS partitions were re-created - I have formatted ALL HDD 4-6 times since I ever had an NTFS partition!!!?? I have check the the bootloader file and all is in order via YAST. I am running clamAV with freshclam at the moment from xterm as the GUI is all stuffed up with an error unable to parse option just in case. Background - The unit is my F/S ( I have backups) it has been running for over 18month non stop without issue. The error started when I suspended the unit to HDD after that the MBR was screwed. I have tried all 3 disks to hold the MBR and I cannot believe all HDD have faulty track 0 cylinder 1 all physically damaged. Scott Jim Flanagan wrote: Registration Account wrote: I have 3 HDD in my PC. No matter which Disk I partition to be the boot drive via the GUI Partitioner, I cannot boot the PC from HDD. I am sure the MBR is corrupted - I am using GRUB with NO NTFS Partitions. I cannot find many clear directions on how to re-write the MBR. Can some one please help me with a few clear directions on how to correct this - Perhaps after replying to me you might like to consider writing a SDB page on this as there is little info on this Thanks Scott Boot from your opensuse install disk. Select 'installation' (you will not do a complete install). Select your language, accept license. At that point select 'other optionsrepair installed system'. Then select 'expert options', then 'install new boot loader'. That should do it. Jim smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [opensuse] RE: Damaged Master Boot Record
On 8/3/07, Registration Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry I forgot to mention I am using ex2 File system and I have 1 RAID0 containing 3 partitions sorry for not advising you before. Scott So, is this software or hw raid? -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:34:05 +0200, Philipp Thomas wrote: Actually the dependency problems are rather small. I took a spec for Fedora 6 That's not correct. I looked at http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/SVN+Fedora+Core+6 and took the necessary packages from the yum call, removing packages not needed as they're automatically installed when using the build script. These are the resulting BuildRequires for awn: BuildRequires: intltool libwnck-devel gnome-desktop-devel BuildRequires: libgnome-devel gnome-vfs2-devel dbus-1-glib-devel BuildRequires: gnome-common I'll post the .spec once I have a working one. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] zmd update status
I was just trying to do a few things on my laptop (centrino duo 2GHz/2GB RAM/160G 7200RPM HDD) and noticed things were running really slow. I couldn't update web pages, my CD ripping went way slow, and NetBeans was taking forever to load an app. I hit CTRL+ESC to see what was going on and noticed a process was taking up 78% of system resources and 36% of user resources. I killed it and things got instantly better. The process was zmd update-status. What's that? I googled it, thinking it might be the cursed Zen Updater, but I know I removed zmd-daemon. I wonder if it could be this? http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp/ZMD/ZMD7.1/helpers/update-status What could this be and how do I get rid of it? kai ponte www.perfectreign.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ocfs2 package updates?
2007/8/3, Jeff Bachtel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Factory version of the ocfs2 package I just downloaded still contains buggy 1.2.2 code. I suspect that the repository used for SLES 10 SP1 has a newer version, as the network timeout knobs were added, but I'm really not intentionally installing SLES ever again. So, all of that said, does anyone know if there are plans to update the ocfs2 package to a more current, far less buggy version? jeff -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SLES10SP1 ships with 1.2.5. You could rebuild from src packages for your Suse flavor... Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] zmd update status
Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was just trying to do a few things on my laptop (centrino duo 2GHz/2GB RAM/160G 7200RPM HDD) and noticed things were running really slow. I couldn't update web pages, my CD ripping went way slow, and NetBeans was taking forever to load an app. I hit CTRL+ESC to see what was going on and noticed a process was taking up 78% of system resources and 36% of user resources. I killed it and things got instantly better. The process was zmd update-status. What's that? I googled it, thinking it might be the cursed Zen Updater, but I know I removed zmd-daemon. Are you sure you removed the package zmd? If you did, then the helper should not run at all since it's only called from zmd. I wonder if it could be this? http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp/ZMD/ZMD7.1/helpers/update-status What could this be and how do I get rid of it? Did you remove the complete zmd pattern in YaST? The helpers are in the package libzypp-zmd-backend - and those are only called from zmd itself. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpF3v7iUqFxh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-packaging] dropping jabberd from distribution
On 2007-08-03 14:07:04 +0200, Petr Cerny wrote: I would like do discuss dropping jabberd from distribution and maintaining it only in the BuildService. As the project is actively developped, the version in distribution is more or less obsolete at release time. the actual version of jabberd in BS is 2.0s11, I have now an update to 2.1.12 (which will appear in BS soon). Comments, please. i think it would be good to have at least one jabber server in the distribution. darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-packaging] dropping jabberd from distribution
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: I'm no user of jabberd so I don't care to much in that special case. The issue I see with such things (dropping from distribution and maintaining in buildservice only) is a quality one. Generally a package from the official distribution is trusted because it maintains a certain quality standard (in most cases) because it is (should be) more tested from Novell and the community in theory while that might be not true for every single package. There are for sure packages in the buildservice which meet the same quality standard and testing level but at the moment there is no way to know that for the normal user. I agree however, having some fast evolving project in distribution may also be very painfull and time-demanding as we have to provide (i.e. backport) security bugfixes for product lifetime (currently 2y for OpenSuSE) - not that I strictly refuse want to do that, yet it's an add-on which isn't used very often. Best regards Petr - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]