[opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE 10.3 Beta 1
Hi! It looks like openSUSE 10.3 Beta 1 won the race against my son, so I'm glad to announce it to you (I might be able to share the code name of beta2 later the week :). Important Changes Since Alpha7 == * GNOME 2.19.6 * Revised DVD5 (the DVD is now made up mainly from patterns) * We're back on 64bit Mozilla for x86_64 * Revised GNOME CD (after a lot of valueable feedback - thanks) Alpha7 is just a week old, but we've seen 575 package submissions since then. So we got plenty of features finished, but we will also see an amount of new bugs with it, so don't be suprised. A more detailed list of changes is available via http://en.opensuse.org/Factory/News . Most Annoying Bugs == * libzypp does not like to have a two yum repositories (we're preparing an online update to this very problem) * We noticed too late that iwlwifi didn't make it on the DVDs. It will be in Factory soon though - and it's on the CDs. * Registration fails in some cases * The signature of the Release Notes can't be checked * GNOME x86_64 ISO is still too big for a CD (you can use a DVD) * glib keeps flashplayer 100% busy in both konqueror and opera * Probably many others, we'll keep http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs_10.3_dev updated Call for Testing If you want to help testing our standard test cases, please coordinate with others and subscribe to opensuse-testing If you want to help with organized testing, * HAL The new HAL version unfortunately missed the deadline and we did not want to rush it in late. So we're asking everyone to test the HAL update from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dkukawka:/hal-beta/openSUSE_Factory/ after installation and test if his devices are correctly recognized, if your burn applications behave correctly, etc. Our internal QA will do the same. Some more information: * you need to update HAL and PolicyKit from the repo * be sure that ConsoleKit is running before HAL What should you test?: * compare lshal output before the update with output after the update * check if you get a info on the desktop if you insert a media (USB-disk/stick, DVD/CD etc), if the volume get mounted correctly and if you are able to umount/eject the media via the desktop tools * are you able to mount LUKS media * are you able to suspend (via KPowersave or g-p-m) * if you could change the brightness of your laptop panel before the update, are you able to do the same with the new HAL version There are some more new features in HAL, but for the moment we need to be sure that there are no regressions between the HAL version on Beta 1 and the new version. We'll integrate this into Factory as soon as possible. Media and Download == openSUSE 10.3 Beta1 for i386, x86-64 and ppc comes as different media sets: * 1 DVD containing OSS and NonOSS software * 1 CD with a default KDE installation (not for ppc) * 1 CD with a default GNOME installation (not for ppc) * 1 AddOn CD with only NonOSS packages on it * 1 AddOn CD with language packages that are used for extra languages (the DVD contains support for english, french, italian, spanish, german, chinese, japanese, czech, danish, norwegian, khmer, hungarian, polish) (the DVD has support for installation in all languages, just extra packages are only on this extra media) * DVD containing the sources corresponding to the media We have created Delta ISOs from openSUSE 10.3 Alpha7. Please use them for download. The DVDs and the source media are only available via bittorrent. Please report all bugs you find on in our bugzilla as explained in http://bugs.opensuse.org, discussion is most appropriate on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. To download media, please use the links provided at: http://software.opensuse.org/developer or get the delta ISOs from: http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version#Downloads Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: Alpha7 Live CDs
On Sunday 05 August 2007 09:48:41 am Stephan Kulow wrote: Hi! With openSUSE 10.3 we want to try something different: have live CDs available already during beta phase, so as a start I created live CDs of the installation set of the i386 GNOME CD and i386 KDE CD (the final version might come with a live installer if it works out). So please give these a try: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha7/iso/cd/openSUSE-10.3- Alpha7-GNOME-Live-i386.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha7/iso/cd/openSUSE-10.3- Alpha7-KDE-Live-i386.iso Report problems in this thread - this is a very first try of 10.3 live CDs, so we better wait for the beta with bugs :) 1) QEMU without acceleration is still usable (about 300 MHz CPU) 2) QEMU with acceleration is fine except one has to configure default gateway. 3) eMachines 6528 (64 bit, AMD 3500, with 1 GB MB RAM, IDE hard disk) Dual screen has the same problem as in regular 10.3 a7, but end result is one good screen. 4) MSI motherboard, Athlon 2000+, IDE hard disks, nVidia MX 4000 AGP Boots with errors mentioned in other posts. Has icon on a desktop that gives back greeter. Nice. Openoffice has somewhat dark splash ;-) -- Regards, Rajko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Beta1 MD5SUM
I have downloaded openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7_Beta1-DVD-i386.delta.iso. The MD5SUM matches the one listed in the MD5SUMS file and applied without problems on openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7-DVD-i386.iso. But the MD5SUM of the resulting openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-i386.iso (6523c15858b624af3475a26eadfa09a1) differs from the sum listed in MD5SUMS.of.DVDs (596167b087703eb5bcf46e157b9e90ee). Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta1 MD5SUM
Herbert Graeber schrieb: I have downloaded openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7_Beta1-DVD-i386.delta.iso. The MD5SUM matches the one listed in the MD5SUMS file and applied without problems on openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7-DVD-i386.iso. But the MD5SUM of the resulting openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-i386.iso (6523c15858b624af3475a26eadfa09a1) differs from the sum listed in MD5SUMS.of.DVDs (596167b087703eb5bcf46e157b9e90ee). Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try to repair (or check) it with bittorrent: Click on the corresponding bittorrent link on the download server and when your favourite bittorrent-client starts, stop the download immediately and exit the client. Then copy your .iso file over the bittorrent iso file and start up your client and do a check. Maybe that this helps you save some bandwidth, kind regards, Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta1 MD5SUM
On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:29:41PM +0200, Herbert Graeber wrote: I have downloaded openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7_Beta1-DVD-i386.delta.iso. The MD5SUM matches the one listed in the MD5SUMS file and applied without problems on openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7-DVD-i386.iso. But the MD5SUM of the resulting openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-i386.iso (6523c15858b624af3475a26eadfa09a1) differs from the sum listed in MD5SUMS.of.DVDs (596167b087703eb5bcf46e157b9e90ee). Checking... Thanks, Christoph -- Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: Alpha7 Live CDs
... http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha7/iso/cd/openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7-KDE-Live-i386.iso Report problems in this thread - this is a very first try of 10.3 live CDs, so we better wait for the beta with bugs :) 10.3-Alpha-7-KDE-Live freezes during install on two different K6-2/500 machines (VIA chipsets I think, one I know has a Gigabyte GA-5AX mobo) - at the point where the log says freeing kernel memory... xxx freed Not sure what more info might be useful? Look serious though especially as this is just the sort of hardware some people will want to experiment on. BTW - what is recommended / minimum spec for RAM / CPU? It would be sensible to put this on the select screen at CD boot, ideally with a check to see what seems to be there (but I don't know how easy that is)? Downloading the Beta-1 version now, will try over the weekend. I assume you'd prefer reports against the newest version? -- Regards, Richard (MQ) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta1 MD5SUM
Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2007 schrieb Thomas Meindl: Herbert Graeber schrieb: I have downloaded openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7_Beta1-DVD-i386.delta.iso. The MD5SUM matches the one listed in the MD5SUMS file and applied without problems on openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7-DVD-i386.iso. But the MD5SUM of the resulting openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-i386.iso (6523c15858b624af3475a26eadfa09a1) differs from the sum listed in MD5SUMS.of.DVDs (596167b087703eb5bcf46e157b9e90ee). [...] Try to repair (or check) it with bittorrent: Click on the corresponding bittorrent link on the download server and when your favourite bittorrent-client starts, stop the download immediately and exit the client. Then copy your .iso file over the bittorrent iso file and start up your client and do a check. Maybe that this helps you save some bandwidth, The delta iso file I have downloaded seems to be fine according to it's md5sum. It's the result of appling it, where the md5sum does not match. I think it's the MD5SUMS.of.DVDs that is wrong. I rember that such a mismatch happend before with at least one alpha. Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta1 MD5SUM
Hi, On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Herbert Graeber wrote: Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2007 schrieb Thomas Meindl: Herbert Graeber schrieb: I have downloaded openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7_Beta1-DVD-i386.delta.iso. The MD5SUM matches the one listed in the MD5SUMS file and applied without problems on openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7-DVD-i386.iso. But the MD5SUM of the resulting openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-i386.iso (6523c15858b624af3475a26eadfa09a1) differs from the sum listed in MD5SUMS.of.DVDs (596167b087703eb5bcf46e157b9e90ee). [...] Try to repair (or check) it with bittorrent: Click on the corresponding bittorrent link on the download server and when your favourite bittorrent-client starts, stop the download immediately and exit the client. Then copy your .iso file over the bittorrent iso file and start up your client and do a check. Maybe that this helps you save some bandwidth, The delta iso file I have downloaded seems to be fine according to it's md5sum. It's the result of appling it, where the md5sum does not match. I think it's the MD5SUMS.of.DVDs that is wrong. I rember that such a mismatch happend before with at least one alpha. Yes, the md5sum text file is wrong. This is right: ftp5:4 22:21:49 /Y/opensuse-dvd5-only/10.3-Beta1/iso # cat MD5SUMS 8f7fba6e07088ab57610b7dbe5a4889a openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-Addon-Lang-Biarch-SOURCES.iso 4a9a930426bfb017bd3d8182607078d6 openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-Addon-Lang-i386-SOURCES.iso a4b449890b4532f43bb48ae1d4958e25 openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-Addon-Lang-ppc-SOURCES.iso e9e945e1e727c55f18ee75395d78aba3 openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-Addon-Lang-x86_64-SOURCES.iso ae5213358fa106124a158f72bcb91f99 openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-Addon-NonOSS-BiArch-SOURCES.iso 0be835f67214d3d270fec776e386ceff openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-Addon-NonOSS-ppc-SOURCES.iso e0ec6ed03e11cf8173f2b50d56222d55 openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-i386-SOURCES.iso 6523c15858b624af3475a26eadfa09a1 openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-i386.iso 6fe667266f0da258e780d0ffb8f055da openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-ppc-SOURCES.iso b8d60c5049f45fec351ec9a16cef928d openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-ppc.iso 923f38f20bc032469979e5b1c37a5ad8 openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-x86_64-SOURCES.iso 21a0687137f0127684047e53ebb287a3 openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-x86_64.iso ftp5:4 22:22:01 /Y/opensuse-dvd5-only/10.3-Beta1/iso # md5sum -c MD5SUMS openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-Addon-Lang-Biarch-SOURCES.iso: OK openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-Addon-Lang-i386-SOURCES.iso: OK openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-Addon-Lang-ppc-SOURCES.iso: OK openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-Addon-Lang-x86_64-SOURCES.iso: OK openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-Addon-NonOSS-BiArch-SOURCES.iso: OK openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-Addon-NonOSS-ppc-SOURCES.iso: OK openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-i386-SOURCES.iso: OK openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-i386.iso: OK openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-ppc-SOURCES.iso: OK openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-ppc.iso: OK openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-x86_64-SOURCES.iso: OK openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-x86_64.iso: OK ftp5:4 22:30:45 /Y/opensuse-dvd5-only/10.3-Beta1/iso # Viele Grüße Eberhard Mönkeberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta1 MD5SUM
On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:49:58PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:29:41PM +0200, Herbert Graeber wrote: I have downloaded openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7_Beta1-DVD-i386.delta.iso. The MD5SUM matches the one listed in the MD5SUMS file and applied without problems on openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7-DVD-i386.iso. But the MD5SUM of the resulting openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-i386.iso (6523c15858b624af3475a26eadfa09a1) differs from the sum listed in MD5SUMS.of.DVDs (596167b087703eb5bcf46e157b9e90ee). Checking... 596167b087703eb5bcf46e157b9e90ee is not mentioned in the openSUSE 10.3 Beta1 MD5SUMS.of.DVDs. You are looking at the Alpha7 MD5SUMS.of.DVDs! Best, Christoph -- Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta1 MD5SUM
On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:49:58PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:29:41PM +0200, Herbert Graeber wrote: I have downloaded openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7_Beta1-DVD-i386.delta.iso. The MD5SUM matches the one listed in the MD5SUMS file and applied without problems on openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7-DVD-i386.iso. But the MD5SUM of the resulting openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-i386.iso (6523c15858b624af3475a26eadfa09a1) differs from the sum listed in MD5SUMS.of.DVDs (596167b087703eb5bcf46e157b9e90ee). Checking... 596167b087703eb5bcf46e157b9e90ee is not mentioned in the openSUSE 10.3 Beta1 MD5SUMS.of.DVDs. You are looking at the Alpha7 MD5SUMS.of.DVDs! 6523c15858b624af3475a26eadfa09a1 is definitely the correct MD5SUM for openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-i386.iso -- with kind regards (mit freundlichem Grinsen), Ruediger Oertel ([EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Linux Fatou 2.6.22.1-3-default #1 SMP 2007/07/22 01:02:40 UTC x86_64 Key fingerprint = 17DC 6553 86A7 384B 53C5 CA5C 3CE4 F2E7 23F2 B417 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta1 MD5SUM
Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2007 schrieb Christoph Thiel: On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:49:58PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:29:41PM +0200, Herbert Graeber wrote: I have downloaded openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7_Beta1-DVD-i386.delta.iso. The MD5SUM matches the one listed in the MD5SUMS file and applied without problems on openSUSE-10.3-Alpha7-DVD-i386.iso. But the MD5SUM of the resulting openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-DVD-i386.iso (6523c15858b624af3475a26eadfa09a1) differs from the sum listed in MD5SUMS.of.DVDs (596167b087703eb5bcf46e157b9e90ee). Checking... 596167b087703eb5bcf46e157b9e90ee is not mentioned in the openSUSE 10.3 Beta1 MD5SUMS.of.DVDs. You are looking at the Alpha7 MD5SUMS.of.DVDs! Strange, I had looked into the file with kwrite and the MD5SUMS.of.DVDs of Alpha7 is not listed in the last recent files list, but the one of Beta1 is. Nevertheless, maybe it's my fault... I have taken a look again, now everthing is OK. Cheers Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.3 beta1 download?
Terje J. Hanssen wrote: According to DesktopLinux.com the openSUSE 10.3 beta1 was released on LinuxWorld August 7. The download page still contains Alpha 7. When will Beta1 become available? http://desktoplinux.com/news/NS7931889340.html Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen I kind of dug around and all that I found was 10.2 in CD or DVD -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : [EMAIL PROTECTED] VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador http://counter.li.org #279316 Did you know? The transistor was invented by three white men. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Upgrading OpenOffice 2.0 to 2.2
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 07:06 +0200, Clayton wrote: And... why would you reboot after installing OpenOffice? Must be because OpenOffice is soo very compatible with MS Office... :) -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Upgrading OpenOffice 2.0 to 2.2
in some cases, reboot is required. dont know why :) Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 07:06 +0200, Clayton wrote: And... why would you reboot after installing OpenOffice? Must be because OpenOffice is soo very compatible with MS Office... :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] BlueZ always switch to off
i have a button on my HP Pavilion DV2213 laptop to switch on the Wifi + Bluetooth altogether. If I use it on MS Vista, both will switch on together without problem, but with opensuse, wifi is on meanwhile the bluetooth will report : BlueZ switch device into off mode How do I switch it on? I've installed Bluez and have a Bluetooth Manager icon on my taskbar. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Upgrading OpenOffice 2.0 to 2.2
in some cases, reboot is required. dont know why :) When you update your kernel.. yes... otherwise Especially not when you install OpenOffice. If you need to reboot after installing or updating OpenOffice, then something is horribly wrong... C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Upgrading OpenOffice 2.0 to 2.2
hehehe i dont think that far since i m just a user, not an expert in linux. I m quite happy i can live without microsoft and other expensive software. in this case, i m just sharing some of my experience. A reboot for me is not a problem as long as it works ;) Clayton wrote: in some cases, reboot is required. dont know why :) When you update your kernel.. yes... otherwise Especially not when you install OpenOffice. If you need to reboot after installing or updating OpenOffice, then something is horribly wrong... C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 in OpenSuSE 10.3 alpha/beta?
On Thursday 09 August 2007 03:18:34 Peter Van Lone wrote: On 8/8/07, Mohammad Bhuyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I get KDE4 (If KDE is chosen as my DE during installation) as default installation with OpenSUSE 10.3 Alpha / Beta release? If not, can I install and make KDE4 as my default DE? Or any suggestion regarding getting latest OpenSUSE with KDE4 installed. I heard on Novell Open Audio one of the KDE devs say that KDE4 would NOT make it into 10.3 .. but he did say that a preview or some-such would be packaged and available. He was talking release ... so I don't know about beta, whether a KDE4 beta is going to work/install properly. I guess I don't really see why not. That would have beens me. KDE 4.0 final will not be out in time for openSUSE 10.3. However, we package all of KDE 4 and include *) A selection of KDE 4 applications on the KDE 1-CD install CD, that you can run in a KDE 3 session *) A full KDE 4 environment on the other install media, which you can make your default session and start from the usual login manager The current version of KDE4 we have on 10.3beta1 is KDE 4.0beta1, but we will update this as KDE 4 progresses. There is a lot of work left to do on KDE 4 so expect there to be problems and missing things. Hope that's what you wanted to know. Will -- Will Stephenson Desktop Engineer KDE Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Software.opensuse.org search feature?
Dne Wednesday 08 August 2007 08:55:20 Leo Eraly napsal(a): Hi, First of all: I really like the new search interface on software.o.o Would it be possible to add a small feature to this search to save all the searches for suse packages that don't return a result. (Offcourse with the necessary security in mind) Afterwards we can make a top 10 from this 'wanted-but-not-available' software every month or so and see which software still needs to be packaged to make users even more happy ;) This is great idea. You probably know that there is whislist? http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Wishlist P -- Pavel Nemec Software Engineer - SuSE CR, s.r.o. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarska 1060/12 tel:+420 284 028 981 190 00 Praha 9 fax:+420 296 542 374 Ceska republika http://www.suse.cz - signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[opensuse] FYI: Linux and laptops
Lenovo to sell laptops with Linux Laptops to be preloaded with Linux software from Novell This from a recent Computerworld article: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9029178source=NLT_LINnlid=40 :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: New desktop
Doug McGarrett wrote: On Wednesday 08 August 2007 05:03, Eberhard Roloff wrote: Kaare Rasmussen wrote: Hi One missing thing in your list imho: How silent will your computer need to be and what will you be able to spend for silence? Anyone has any input to this? Any sites that can help me with the configuration, any do-it-yourself sites? As regards silence, the old IBM keyboards are absolutely the most wonderful and loud keyboards in existance. Some electronics/computer/ham-radio fleamarkets have these. If noise is no object, get one! They seem to last forever. No Windows keys, but you probably wouldn't care. --doug, wa2say Fully agreed Although I confess being a silent PC geek and there is hardly anything that nerves me more than noisy PCs that I must work with for hours , this does not apply to keyboards. This is typed on a Model M style keyboard with 122 keys that I got from ebay for 10€. Looks like this http://www.shoppalstores.com/ibmmodelm/image//2002021-004.jpg Unfortunately not all keys work with a PC, but all I need and much more is there. This one is also suitable for self-defence and in case you need a hammer but do not one, you do not need to buy one. They are great, they are even greater when your PC is silent and they are greatest when there is no one else in the room who is constantly complaining about your IBM klicky-keyboard noise. ;-) Lately I found a solution to the latter problem and bought my wife another Model M. Now we are both on Klickey-Keyboard, she never wants to use anything else keyboardwise and most important, we are in love, once again. ;-)) regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 20:52, Tero Pesonen wrote: [snip I don't feel comfortable recommending Linux desktop to others. Because when they will need help, I probably won't be able to help. And they should not need help from me with basic issues such as burning disks or having some proprietary video formats play back. Tero The proprietary video formats issue is one for the lawyers, not Linux people. These formats don't play back because copyright and patent owners or abusers will not allow free access to them and have threatened and bullied, and even prosecuted, people trying simply to view files using open source systems. This distinction is extremely important. Badger your government about it, not those working on Linux multimedia, who have shown time and again that they can easily overcome any technical issues when not threatened by corporations and their legal teams. -- Fergus Wilde Chetham's Library Long Millgate Manchester M3 1SB Tel: 0161 834 7961 Fax: 0161 839 5797 http://www.chethams.org.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] multiple network configuration
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thierry de Coulon wrote: Hello, I'm running 10.2 on a Thinkpad X60. I've setup the network to *not* use networkmanager. I've setup the wired network and the wifi card to use fixed IPs because that's what I am using on my network. As obviously I could not get both cards to run at the same time (it seems this should be feasible if I understand right but it did not work), so I've created two scripts than either turn the wired eth0 card off and the wifi card eth1 on, or the other way round, then two icons in kicker, all that remains is to enter the root password to let them run. This setup works fine for me (provided I remember to use the slider that locks the wifi off of course, I always forget that one). Now, my problem is this: I will soon be back at work, where I can hook myself on a wireless network that uses DHCP *and* requires me to use the right DNS values. Now: - is it possible to easily specify several wifi configurations, if possible including DNS values? Mac OS X does do that, you can save several configs and load the one you need here or there. Do we have anything approaching? - should I go for a bunch of scripts that would ifconfig everything each time I turn a network device on (if I remember correctly I should be able to use ifconfig to setup IP or DHCP, and route to add the gateway. I don't know if I can change the gateway on the fly however). Anyone has experience with such stuff? Regards, Thierry It is relatively straightforward to change IP related settings on an extant wired device, but a bit more problematic with secure wireless connections (in any environment with any OS BTW). In linux WPA support is usually a function of wpa_supplicant, I have not explored how this is used in SuSE 10.2 in any depth, but have been forced to work with it directly in 9.x. The key file for this is in /etc/sys/config/network and usually named as following form (this may vary as I suspect the wlan bit is a interface device spec and if you are using ethx it will probably be eth).. ifcfg-wlan-id-card mac address the ifcfg bit seems to be an indicator for the if tools which use the parameters in this file, the mac address is the unique identifier. There is a template for this file somewhere but I cannot remember where I found it. A simple trick would be to write a small script which a) ifdown current WiFi connection... b) copies appropriate WiFi config to the ifcfg file c) ifup WiFi connection I do not use this now because some quirks in my hardware mean I need to use hwup and hwdown rather than ifup and ifdown (or whatever the new equivalent is) so I cannot verify whether this would work with 10.x but I did do this when I had 9.x on this machine and it worked then. - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGuszxasN0sSnLmgIRAqazAKDyPmD3CyGeK6ubjOnyw04W/4F/NACfcQwK LZCWiKQ2X2V/flTLWKW4gf4= =49z8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: domain and email forwarding
Dave Howorth wrote: On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 21:25 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote: Just to clear up some probable misunderstanding: do you mean that your server receives the mail and then sends it onwards to your ISP? THAT is forwarding. If you mean that you have a domain which is hosted by your ISP and the mailserver of your ISP is the MX for that domain, that is NOT forwarding. I don't have a server. Company A hosting my domains receives the mail and forwards it to my ISP (company B) and I pick it up from there with POP3. Weird construction. (^-^) Why not poll the Server of Company A directly? The trouble with forwarding is, that different methods of determining spam might lead to blocking, if Company B considers the server of Company A as a source of spam. If you want to set up your own server the basic setup for Postfix/Cyrus is relatively simple. I still see a lot of traffic on this list from people with problems! They're ably helped by you and others but it still looks like more hassle than I'd like :( Of course. I only said that the basic setup is relatively easy. I didn't say anything about troubleshooting. (^-^) On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 19:13 -0400, Razi Khaja wrote: I just started using the google service for my own domain. Its very easy to setup and the standard edition is free so its worth a try. After trying it, if you dont like it you can always cancel the service. The good thing about the google service is that you can be pretty sure that your mail server wont go down (since you wont be admin'ing it, google will) and you wont have to become an expert in mail servers. Thanks, Razi. I'll investigate this - it sounds like what I'm looking for. It's definitely a better choice than to start your own server without knowing much about SMTP and IMAP. One caveat is that I simply don't trust Google to handle my data. They are a business in the first place, so they have to get some value out of it in a currency you don't see at first glance. -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] multiple network configuration
On Thursday, 9. August 2007, G T Smith wrote: It is relatively straightforward to change IP related settings on an extant wired device, but a bit more problematic with secure wireless connections (in any environment with any OS BTW). Our School wifi network is open (it has to be accessible to the students, so it's not encrpyted and has no password - but the counterpart is you only have Internet access. Local network is accessible only from wired computers with personnal accounts A simple trick would be to write a small script which a) ifdown current WiFi connection... b) copies appropriate WiFi config to the ifcfg file c) ifup WiFi connection Thanks, I'll look at that and test it as soon as I'm back to work. Thierry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: domain and email forwarding
Sandy Drobic wrote: Dave Howorth wrote: I don't have a server. Company A hosting my domains receives the mail and forwards it to my ISP (company B) and I pick it up from there with POP3. Weird construction. (^-^) Why not poll the Server of Company A directly? The trouble with forwarding is, that different methods of determining spam might lead to blocking, if Company B considers the server of Company A as a source of spam. Originally, company A didn't offer POP3/IMAP access on their forwarding accounts. They do now but I'm looking to move away following other changes in their business policy (i.e. extra charges appearing without warning). As regards spam, I tell both A and B not to filter my mail at all. I pay them money to deliver it! It's definitely a better choice than to start your own server without knowing much about SMTP and IMAP. There are far too many things where I already know more than I want to. I'd like to treat mail as a black box and concentrate on things I find more interesting. One caveat is that I simply don't trust Google to handle my data. I trust Google more than some but I'd prefer to deal with a company whose people servers are in the UK or EU. Just call it an irrational prejudice :) Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 SAX/8600GT Strange Problem
Le Mercredi 8 Août 2007 14:11, Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) a écrit : Hi, I have just assembled new PC with Intel Core2 Duo, Gigabyte m/b, Intel P35 Chipset, and Asus 8600GT/512MB PCIe video card. Software: SuSE 10.2 with latest kernel update, latest nvidia driver from its web site installed manually (modprobe nvidia works) However, neither sax2 neither sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia do not work as expected - sax2 ALWAYS switch to framebuffer mode. I have replaced video card with MSI 8600GT, installed it into another PCIe slot, problem still exists. Strange enogh, since lspci DOES lists this video card. Additionally, Windoze works on this PC. Anyone can explain me what went wrong? Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s). Hi, I have kind of the same problem (well it is not really a problem actually), with an MSI 7600GT (AGP) under OpenSuSE 10.2. The nvidia driver is properly installed, xorg.conf points to the nvidia driver and 3D is working perfectly (even Beryl/Compiz/Xgl). So as you see, no real problem. But if i launch Sax2, it lists the card as VESA Framebuffer, and I can't change this behaviour. The card is supposed to be supported (SUSE HDB) but it was the PCIe version. Anyway, it might be possible to have the card working properly without using sax2. Cheers. Matthias -- __ Matthias Titeux, PhD Département de génétique des maladies cutanées et allergiques dans des modèles animaux et chez l'homme. INSERM U563 - CPTP Pavillon Lefebvre, 5ème étage CHU Purpan BP3028 31024 Toulouse cedex 03 __ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SLES9 and MySQL5
2007/8/7, Michal Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks, i've already seen this (exactly http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/upgrading-from-4-1.html), but i was willing to hear experiences from someone that actually did the upgrade. I would be interested as well. But I'm affraid the buildservice packages for SLES9 don't have many users, given that two months ago they didn't exist. You'll probably be the first one! ;-) Michal Probably i'll copy the datafiles (as soon as i get the needed space) to a vmware installation and try to update mysql or probably reinstall it (rpm -e mysql/rpm -i mysql-5.blah). For production i would like to wait for 5.1 as i'm interested on using table partitions (there's an ugly +60GB table around). Have any idea when it's going to be released (and added to Build Service)? I'll report back the result of my tests. Regards, Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 SAX/8600GT Strange Problem
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 11:34 +0200, Matthias Titeux wrote: I have kind of the same problem (well it is not really a problem actually), with an MSI 7600GT (AGP) under OpenSuSE 10.2. The nvidia driver is properly installed, xorg.conf points to the nvidia driver and 3D is working perfectly (even Beryl/Compiz/Xgl). So as you see, no real problem. But if i launch Sax2, it lists the card as VESA Framebuffer, and I can't change this behaviour. The card is supposed to be supported (SUSE HDB) but it was the PCIe version. Similar here. I think it is because SAX does not know about the nvidia binary driver. It only knows what it can probe and id. For that I am assuming it uses only x.org's drivers. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Upgrading OpenOffice 2.0 to 2.2
Hans Linux wrote: in my case with GNOME, I just ignore all dependency, otherwise it would remove GNOME :P Next install OpenOffice from rpm, reboot your system and all should be fine Why reboot? The only software change that requires a reboot is the kernel. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Printing Problems through D-Link Router
Don Raboud wrote: Hi all, I recently got a new computer (openSUSE 10.2, x86_64, fully patched) which does not have a parallel port. However I have an old HP Laserjet 4M (old, but works well) which only has a parallel port connection. This is at home, and I have a small D-Link DI-704P router which has a built in parallel port for sharing a printer - exactly what I would like to do here. Many of those old HP printers can take an ethernet card. Perhaps you can find on on ebay. You can also buy ethernet to parallel port adapters, which might do the trick. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Upgrading OpenOffice 2.0 to 2.2
Hans Linux wrote: in some cases, reboot is required. dont know why :) I've never seen it, not even in Windows. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 in OpenSuSE 10.3 alpha/beta?
On 8/9/07, Will Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *) A full KDE 4 environment on the other install media, which you can make your default session and start from the usual login manager The current version of KDE4 we have on 10.3beta1 is KDE 4.0beta1, but we will update this as KDE 4 progresses. There is a lot of work left to do on KDE 4 so expect there to be problems and missing things. Ideally what I want is to have 10.3beta1 with KDE3.5.* and at the same time KDE4 with KDE4 apps installed with the option to choose it as my session during login. Is it *easily* possible? I mean with no extensive tweaking. I am aware of the status of KDE4 but can't wait to get my hands on :D Regards, Mohammad -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 10.3beta1?
Hi all, When/Where do I get to downlaod 10.3beta1? Don't see it in the download page. Regards, Mohammad -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3beta1?
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 21:56 +1000, Mohammad Bhuyan wrote: Hi all, When/Where do I get to downlaod 10.3beta1? Don't see it in the download page. Try looking here: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution Ken -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3beta1?
Mohammad Bhuyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, When/Where do I get to downlaod 10.3beta1? Don't see it in the download page. It will be available later today - once it's announced on opensuse-announce, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpZ5TBpTrU6K.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse] Suse 10.2 installation on Raid 1
I have ra1d1 setup as follows. MD3, 20 GB as /(SDA2, SDC2) MD4, 267 GB as /home (SDA3, SDC3) Swap as SDA5 1 gb and SDC5 1 gb Installation went fine on installation, but on reboot, it says disk has no operating system. What did I do wrong and how can I fix it? Art -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3beta1?
On 2007/08/09 14:17 (GMT+0200) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed: Mohammad Bhuyan wrote: When/Where do I get to downlaod 10.3beta1? Don't see it in the download page. It will be available later today - once it's announced on opensuse-announce, Do those of us who HTTP/FTP install Factory need to wait? 3 days ago I was prevented from success by https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=296332 which hasn't yet been marked fixed. -- It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible.George Washington Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SLES9 and MySQL5
Ciro Iriarte wrote: Probably i'll copy the datafiles (as soon as i get the needed space) to a vmware installation and try to update mysql or probably reinstall it (rpm -e mysql/rpm -i mysql-5.blah). If you have the possibility to test your app in a testing environment, then this is definitely the recommended way. rpm -Uvh should work as well btw, or adding the repo to yast (if you want to update all packages). For production i would like to wait for 5.1 as i'm interested on using table partitions (there's an ugly +60GB table around). Have any idea when it's going to be released (and added to Build Service)? I can't answer the first question. As for buildservice, there used to be rpms of 5.1 beta version in the same repository, but I removed them, as it caused problems when building other packages. I'm going to resurrect them however (after 10.3 or so). So the answer to the second question is soon after the official release ;) I'll report back the result of my tests. Cool. Looking forward for your results :) Michal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] Suse 10.2 installation on Raid 1
I have ra1d1 setup as follows. MD3, 20 GB as /(SDA2, SDC2) MD4, 267 GB as /home (SDA3, SDC3) Swap as SDA5 1 gb and SDC5 1 gb Installation went fine on installation, but on reboot, it says disk has no operating system. What did I do wrong and how can I fix it? Without more info I would check to make sure that you have the right disk set to boot from in the bios. I had this problem ones and had to set it to boot from device / driver that the raid setup was on in the bios. Jack Malone -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.2 installation on Raid 1
On 08/09/2007 08:10 PM, Art Fore wrote: I have ra1d1 setup as follows. MD3, 20 GB as /(SDA2, SDC2) MD4, 267 GB as /home (SDA3, SDC3) Swap as SDA5 1 gb and SDC5 1 gb Installation went fine on installation, but on reboot, it says disk has no operating system. What did I do wrong and how can I fix it? What is saying disk has no operating system, BIOS or grub? If BIOS, I would suggest installing grub in the MBR of both drives. If grub, post your menu.lst and device.map files, and a ls -l /boot and maybe cat /etc/fstab to be more complete. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3beta1?
Mohammad Bhuyan wrote: Hi all, When/Where do I get to downlaod 10.3beta1? Don't see it in the download page. http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Beta1/ /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 in OpenSuSE 10.3 alpha/beta?
On Thursday, 9. August 2007 13:54:42 Mohammad Bhuyan wrote: Ideally what I want is to have 10.3beta1 with KDE3.5.* and at the same time KDE4 with KDE4 apps installed with the option to choose it as my session during login. Is it *easily* possible? Yes. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
On Thursday 09 August 2007, Fergus Wilde wrote: On Wednesday 08 August 2007 20:52, Tero Pesonen wrote: [snip I don't feel comfortable recommending Linux desktop to others. Because when they will need help, I probably won't be able to help. And they should not need help from me with basic issues such as burning disks or having some proprietary video formats play back. Tero The proprietary video formats issue is one for the lawyers, not Linux people. These formats don't play back because copyright and patent owners or abusers will not allow free access to them and have threatened and bullied, and even prosecuted, people trying simply to view files using open source systems. This distinction is extremely important. Badger your government about it, not those working on Linux multimedia, who have shown time and again that they can easily overcome any technical issues when not threatened by corporations and their legal teams. I do understand this. I'm not blaming people working on opensource multimedia -- they are the people who make it possible for me to view these videos! The problem is, that an average user coming from Windows does not (based on my experience) know anything about the whys and hows relating to video codecs on opensource platforms. If things won't just work out of the box or with the install of a media player, the said things become an issue. Most people have never even heard of video codecs in their life. They just start Windows Mediaplayer or whatever and open the video file, or as is often the case, the video source or file automatically opens the correct player. On Linux I've always had to manually find and install the codecs. I don't know if the latest SUSE has changed that, or what is the case on Ubuntu or others popular now. It is no problem at all to me. It could be a problem to many others though. What comes to politics, I enquired those I deemed worth voting for in EU and local elections about their stance on software patents in the EU. Not that it makes much difference, though. Whatever the government's stance on this, it always seems to follow that of Nokia. The industry dictates these things here, I guess. Tero -- Fergus Wilde Chetham's Library Long Millgate Manchester M3 1SB Tel: 0161 834 7961 Fax: 0161 839 5797 http://www.chethams.org.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Question..
Hi list, im looking for a compiled version of kernel to opensuse that support layer7, to block specifcs programs like skype, msn But i didnt find any package.. does anybody know if exist a package precompiled to opensuse 10.2 ??? Regards, Fabio -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.2 installation on Raid 1
On 8/9/07 9:22 AM, Jack Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have ra1d1 setup as follows. MD3, 20 GB as /(SDA2, SDC2) MD4, 267 GB as /home (SDA3, SDC3) Swap as SDA5 1 gb and SDC5 1 gb Installation went fine on installation, but on reboot, it says disk has no operating system. What did I do wrong and how can I fix it? Without more info I would check to make sure that you have the right disk set to boot from in the bios. I had this problem ones and had to set it to boot from device / driver that the raid setup was on in the bios. Jack Malone By default, opensuse wants to install grub onto the root partition. However, with an md root, that won't work. Basically, you need to boot into the rescue system, get the md array up, bind /proc and /dev into it, and then install grub onto the MBR. (I'm typing those commands out from memory, so I may have the syntax slightly wrong, but it should be pretty close.) Getting the MD array up is a little tricky. Once you're in the rescue system, you need to edit /etc/mdadm.conf, and add the lines DEVICE /dev/sda2 DEVICE /dev/sdc2 Then you can do `mdadm --examine --scan`, and it should find the array. Verify that the correct info is output to the console, and if so do `mdadm --examine --scan /etc/mdadm.conf`, and then `mdadm --activate --scan` to get the array active. Then, do `mount /dev/md3 /mnt`. Bind the /proc and /dev filesystems to the md array by doing `mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc` `mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev` Chroot to your real system by doing `chroot /mnt` Enter grub, by doing `grub`. In the grub shell, do `root (hd0,1)` And then `setup (hd0)` `setup (hd2)` That should get the correct config installed onto the MBR of the disks. Note that by doing the setup for both hd0 and hd2, you've got the boot info installed on the MBR of sdc as well; that way, if the first disk fails, you don't need to repeat this process -- your machine will be bootable using the remaining disk. (yes, setting root to (hd0,1) is counterintuitive, since that's just a RAID member. But, it works...) This process is actually one of the things that drives me batty about opensuse. I'm using it in a production environment, and have bunches of machines with md roots, and have to do this with every single one of them. The bootloader installation part of the installer is simply incapable of dealing with an install onto the MBR of two separate disks. I don't know why, but it is. HTH, Ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.2 installation on Raid 1
Art Fore wrote: I have ra1d1 setup as follows. MD3, 20 GB as /(SDA2, SDC2) MD4, 267 GB as /home (SDA3, SDC3) Swap as SDA5 1 gb and SDC5 1 gb Installation went fine on installation, but on reboot, it says disk has no operating system. What did I do wrong and how can I fix it? Is /boot on it's own partition, outside of the RAID array? If you are using RAID or LVM, /boot has to have it's own partition. BTW, you can use LVM inside RAID, to make it easier to have multiple partitions. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Question..
On Aug 9 2007 10:56, Fabio Silva wrote: Hi list, im looking for a compiled version of kernel to opensuse that support layer7, to block specifcs programs like skype, msn But i didnt find any package.. does anybody know if exist a package precompiled to opensuse 10.2 ??? kernel-*-2.6.22.1-ccj51 from suser-jengelh. Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Active Directory and HAL
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 18:20 +0200, Pigia wrote: I have a suse 10.2 joined to a Windows 2003 Domain and my Domain user can logon and I can work as well but I can't mount peripherials (CD, DVD; USB Keys) because by default HAL seems to ignore the existance of my user; the exact error is: rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume member Mount error name (unser) destination org.freedesktop.Hal. Since the output of the id command for my user is: This sounds similar to a SLED 10 SP1 bug fix for a customer. (That means a fix is probably in 10.3). -JP -- JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.2 installation on Raid 1
On 08/09/2007 10:04 PM, James Knott wrote: Is /boot on it's own partition, outside of the RAID array? If you are using RAID or LVM, /boot has to have it's own partition. Wrong. I think it used to be so (8.0), but I have an md root and home similar to the OP with NO separate boot partition. I do think grub has to be installed in the MBR though, as was suggested. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] SLES9 refuses TIghtVNC 1.3.9 connections
When I try to conenct to my SLES9 boxes with the latest TightVNC program, all I I get is a Status: Protocol version negotiated message. Googling it appears the VNC server in SLES9 does not support the new protocol used in TightVNC 1.3.9, and the solution is to either upgrade the VNC Server on SLES9, or downgrade the client's TightVNC to 1.2.9. I'd like to use 1.3.9 on the client because it apparently properly traps Alt-Tab window cycling and sends it to the SLES9 box. How to I upgrade the VNC Server on my SLES9 box? I'm using SLES9 SP3. I was trying to find some new VNC rpms, but this site didn't seem searchable: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/ Any suggestions? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
Tero Pesonen wrote: On Thursday 09 August 2007, Fergus Wilde wrote: he proprietary video formats issue is one for the lawyers, not Linux people. These formats don't play back because copyright and patent owners or abusers will not allow free access to them and have threatened and bullied, and even prosecuted, people trying simply to view files using open source systems. This distinction is extremely important. Badger your government about it, not those working on Linux multimedia, who have shown time and again that they can easily overcome any technical issues when not threatened by corporations and their legal teams. I do understand this. I'm not blaming people working on opensource multimedia -- they are the people who make it possible for me to view these videos! The problem is, that an average user coming from Windows does not (based on my experience) know anything about the whys and hows relating to video codecs on opensource platforms. If things won't just work out of the box or with the install of a media player, the said things become an issue. Most people have never even heard of video codecs in their life. They just start Windows Mediaplayer or whatever and open the video file, or as is often the case, the video source or file automatically opens the correct player. On Linux I've always had to manually find and install the codecs. I don't know if the latest SUSE has changed that, or what is the case on Ubuntu or others popular now. It is no problem at all to me. It could be a problem to many others though. FWIW, a friend has an IBM ThinkPad, that came loaded with Windows 98. A couple of years ago, she upgraded to XP and found she could no longer play video DVDs. After some checking, we found that she has to buy the necessary software, from a web site that's very irritating and difficult to navigate through. She decided against providing her credit card info and went without DVD video playback. Another issue is when you install such things, you often get a load of crapware along with it. So, it is not always so easy for Windows users either. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Question..
On Aug 9 2007 11:41, Fabio Silva wrote: Jan, i installed your package, but, do you have some samples on how to apply the iptables rules ?? I tryed it iptables -A INPUT -m layer7 --l7proto skypeout –j DROP but, i think that is not usefull with your package. what module do i need to load and how can i apply any rule? Post the error message. Jan --
Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Alpha 5: CD/ DVD NOT AUTOMOUNTED - Workaround
Matthias Ebert wrote: Cause I dont like to go through the login-procedure of Novell, so I couldnt report it to bugzilla Hope this mail goes to sby who could handle it :) I wouldn't bet on it. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
On Thursday 09 August 2007, James Knott wrote: Tero Pesonen wrote: On Thursday 09 August 2007, Fergus Wilde wrote: he proprietary video formats issue is one for the lawyers, not Linux people. These formats don't play back because copyright and patent owners or abusers will not allow free access to them and have threatened and bullied, and even prosecuted, people trying simply to view files using open source systems. This distinction is extremely important. Badger your government about it, not those working on Linux multimedia, who have shown time and again that they can easily overcome any technical issues when not threatened by corporations and their legal teams. I do understand this. I'm not blaming people working on opensource multimedia -- they are the people who make it possible for me to view these videos! The problem is, that an average user coming from Windows does not (based on my experience) know anything about the whys and hows relating to video codecs on opensource platforms. If things won't just work out of the box or with the install of a media player, the said things become an issue. Most people have never even heard of video codecs in their life. They just start Windows Mediaplayer or whatever and open the video file, or as is often the case, the video source or file automatically opens the correct player. On Linux I've always had to manually find and install the codecs. I don't know if the latest SUSE has changed that, or what is the case on Ubuntu or others popular now. It is no problem at all to me. It could be a problem to many others though. FWIW, a friend has an IBM ThinkPad, that came loaded with Windows 98. A couple of years ago, she upgraded to XP and found she could no longer play video DVDs. After some checking, we found that she has to buy the necessary software, from a web site that's very irritating and difficult to navigate through. She decided against providing her credit card info and went without DVD video playback. Another issue is when you install such things, you often get a load of crapware along with it. So, it is not always so easy for Windows users either. interesting. This was new to me. Regards, Tero Pesonen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.2 installation on Raid 1
Art Fore wrote: I have ra1d1 setup as follows. MD3, 20 GB as /(SDA2, SDC2) MD4, 267 GB as /home (SDA3, SDC3) Swap as SDA5 1 gb and SDC5 1 gb Installation went fine on installation, but on reboot, it says disk has no operating system. What did I do wrong and how can I fix it? Check that you've got your boot-manager properly configured. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
FWIW, a friend has an IBM ThinkPad, that came loaded with Windows 98. A couple of years ago, she upgraded to XP and found she could no longer play video DVDs. After some checking, we found that she has to buy the necessary software, from a web site that's very irritating and difficult to navigate through. She decided against providing her credit card info and went without DVD video playback. Another issue is when you install such things, you often get a load of crapware along with it. So, it is not always so easy for Windows users either. interesting. This was new to me. I've seen this many times before. A few friends bought XP off the shelf... no DVD playback at all. A few bought pre-assembled package deal machines from a local computer store... some included a crippled DVD playback application on a few.. others had complete DVD playback apps. The only option for most was to buy (or illegally download in some cases) some commercial software. So.. this business of things like playing DVD out of the box... simply is a case of people getting systems with a software pack... not some inbuilt capability of Windows. Can't speak for Vista C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.2 installation on Raid 1
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 09:44 -0400, Ian Marlier wrote: On 8/9/07 9:22 AM, Jack Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have ra1d1 setup as follows. MD3, 20 GB as /(SDA2, SDC2) MD4, 267 GB as /home (SDA3, SDC3) Swap as SDA5 1 gb and SDC5 1 gb Installation went fine on installation, but on reboot, it says disk has no operating system. What did I do wrong and how can I fix it? Without more info I would check to make sure that you have the right disk set to boot from in the bios. I had this problem ones and had to set it to boot from device / driver that the raid setup was on in the bios. Jack Malone By default, opensuse wants to install grub onto the root partition. However, with an md root, that won't work. Basically, you need to boot into the rescue system, get the md array up, bind /proc and /dev into it, and then install grub onto the MBR. (I'm typing those commands out from memory, so I may have the syntax slightly wrong, but it should be pretty close.) Getting the MD array up is a little tricky. Once you're in the rescue system, you need to edit /etc/mdadm.conf, and add the lines DEVICE /dev/sda2 DEVICE /dev/sdc2 Then you can do `mdadm --examine --scan`, and it should find the array. Verify that the correct info is output to the console, and if so do `mdadm --examine --scan /etc/mdadm.conf`, and then `mdadm --activate --scan` to get the array active. Then, do `mount /dev/md3 /mnt`. Bind the /proc and /dev filesystems to the md array by doing `mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc` `mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev` Chroot to your real system by doing `chroot /mnt` Enter grub, by doing `grub`. In the grub shell, do `root (hd0,1)` And then `setup (hd0)` `setup (hd2)` That should get the correct config installed onto the MBR of the disks. Note that by doing the setup for both hd0 and hd2, you've got the boot info installed on the MBR of sdc as well; that way, if the first disk fails, you don't need to repeat this process -- your machine will be bootable using the remaining disk. (yes, setting root to (hd0,1) is counterintuitive, since that's just a RAID member. But, it works...) This process is actually one of the things that drives me batty about opensuse. I'm using it in a production environment, and have bunches of machines with md roots, and have to do this with every single one of them. The bootloader installation part of the installer is simply incapable of dealing with an install onto the MBR of two separate disks. I don't know why, but it is. HTH, Ian Thanks for the info. I will try that tomorrow. It is getting pretty late here in Taiwan now. Art -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
On Thursday 09 August 2007 16:54, Tero Pesonen wrote: FWIW, a friend has an IBM ThinkPad, that came loaded with Windows 98. A couple of years ago, she upgraded to XP and found she could no longer play video DVDs. After some checking, we found that she has to buy the necessary software, from a web site that's very irritating and difficult to navigate through. She decided against providing her credit card info and went without DVD video playback. Another issue is when you install such things, you often get a load of crapware along with it. So, it is not always so easy for Windows users either. interesting. This was new to me. It is? Here's a challenge. Take a new computer with NO OS on it. Install XP and tell me what you can do with it except surf the net with IE, use Outlook express, and play solitaire. Oh, and I hope all the hardware you have works out of the box. It might or not. If it doesn't, you have to go out and find the driver. Sound user friendly? Most things will work, but there are a few oddballs out there that don't. Look at the driver disk sometime for the equipment you buy. Does the average user know what type of network card they have? Not usually. It was working when I bought it, they say. So now you have to find that driver. Oh, but without the network card you can't connect to the net to find it. Been there done that. Thank goodness for a live linux cd. It found the card, and happened to have a driver. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 10.0 Kernel 2.6.13 X86_64 KDE 3.4 Kmail 1.8 4:58pm up 11 days 7:14, 4 users, load average: 2.48, 2.32, 2.23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
Clayton wrote: FWIW, a friend has an IBM ThinkPad, that came loaded with Windows 98. A couple of years ago, she upgraded to XP and found she could no longer play video DVDs. After some checking, we found that she has to buy the necessary software, from a web site that's very irritating and difficult to navigate through. She decided against providing her credit card info and went without DVD video playback. Another issue is when you install such things, you often get a load of crapware along with it. So, it is not always so easy for Windows users either. interesting. This was new to me. I've seen this many times before. A few friends bought XP off the shelf... no DVD playback at all. A few bought pre-assembled package deal machines from a local computer store... some included a crippled DVD playback application on a few.. others had complete DVD playback apps. The only option for most was to buy (or illegally download in some cases) some commercial software. So.. this business of things like playing DVD out of the box... simply is a case of people getting systems with a software pack... not some inbuilt capability of Windows. Can't speak for Vista C. My favorite cross-platform player (closed source) is VLC Media player. I've thrown many formats at it and it has never failed to play them. You don't always have to jump through hoops to play multimedia. *You* have to decide if you want to use other than open source software. It works for me. http://www.videolan.org/ As usual, I'm not associated, etc. -- Casey Stamper http://www.stampersite.com/wordpress -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 17:14 +0200, Casey Stamper wrote: My favorite cross-platform player (closed source) is VLC Media player. I've thrown many formats at it and it has never failed to play them. You don't always have to jump through hoops to play multimedia. *You* have to decide if you want to use other than open source software. It works for me. http://www.videolan.org/ As usual, I'm not associated, etc. closed source? -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.2 installation on Raid 1
Ian Marlier wrote: This process is actually one of the things that drives me batty about opensuse. I'm using it in a production environment, and have bunches of machines with md roots, and have to do this with every single one of them. The bootloader installation part of the installer is simply incapable of dealing with an install onto the MBR of two separate disks. Might be worth raising an enhancement request. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3beta1?
Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2007/08/09 14:17 (GMT+0200) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed: Mohammad Bhuyan wrote: When/Where do I get to downlaod 10.3beta1? Don't see it in the download page. It will be available later today - once it's announced on opensuse-announce, Do those of us who HTTP/FTP install Factory need to wait? 3 days ago I was prevented from success by https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=296332 which hasn't yet been marked fixed. I assume that the last sync which happened this morning is complete. The bug you mention should be fixed - I'm confused ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpPWickn8cHp.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse] suspend2disk and nvidia driver
Hello. I have some problems with suspend2disk and 'nvidia' driver. System hangs after resume. (For a long time I've used 'nv' driver and hibernate worked fine.) I tried to use System : OpenSuse 10.2 (x86) Kernel : 2.6.18.2-34-default NVidia driver : 1.0-9755 video : GeForce 6800 (PCI-E) I've set NvAGP option to 1 in xorg.conf. 'lsmod | grep agp' shows only 'agpgart' module. For suspend2 disk I use command 'powersave -U'. Is it any way to use suspend2disk with nvidia driver without suspend2 kernel patch? -- WBR, Dmitry. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 17:14 +0200, Casey Stamper wrote: My favorite cross-platform player (closed source) is VLC Media player. I've thrown many formats at it and it has never failed to play them. You don't always have to jump through hoops to play multimedia. *You* have to decide if you want to use other than open source software. It works for me. http://www.videolan.org/ As usual, I'm not associated, etc. closed source? GPL!!! jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://gourmandises.orangeblog.fr/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
jdd wrote: Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 17:14 +0200, Casey Stamper wrote: My favorite cross-platform player (closed source) is VLC Media player. I've thrown many formats at it and it has never failed to play them. You don't always have to jump through hoops to play multimedia. *You* have to decide if you want to use other than open source software. It works for me. http://www.videolan.org/ As usual, I'm not associated, etc. closed source? GPL!!! jdd I know, I know! I was talking more about using it in Windows. -- Casey Stamper http://www.stampersite.com/wordpress -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
On Thursday 09 August 2007 18:05:05 Casey Stamper wrote: I know, I know! I was talking more about using it in Windows. It's still open source on windows -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Adjusting volume on a USB headset?
In all the troubleshooting, i rebooted to Windows and checked it there... it works fine there... at least in the quick check I did. I will try a more detailed test there,,, maybe I missed something. It it possible that there is a hardware failure in the USB sound device... I would expect 100% failure though, not less than half volume. Done more digging on this today... and the problems I am encountering seem not to be software related... if dozens of postings on various forums have any merit. The common theme regardless of OS or platform (Windows, Linux, PS3 etc) seems to be that either the chip in the little box on the headset wire is failing, or there is a broken wire. The symptoms are... extremely low sound volume from the speakers while the microphone works as it should. The only solution is complete replacement. I cannot complain about a failure... the headset has served me well... several years almost constant use out of it (both for VOIP phone and online gaming)... so a replacement isn't too painful... fingers crossed that the new one works :-) I wonder if there is a good quality wireless headset available now. C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
Tero Pesonen wrote: On Thursday 09 August 2007, James Knott wrote: ould be a problem to many others though. FWIW, a friend has an IBM ThinkPad, that came loaded with Windows 98. A couple of years ago, she upgraded to XP and found she could no longer play video DVDs. After some checking, we found that she has to buy the necessary software, from a web site that's very irritating and difficult to navigate through. She decided against providing her credit card info and went without DVD video playback. Another issue is when you install such things, you often get a load of crapware along with it. So, it is not always so easy for Windows users either. interesting. This was new to me. Most people who use Windows are sheltered from reality, because they don't have to install anything to get the hardware working and as long as they stick with the original OS intall, they don't have a problem. I was recently reading an article, by someone who was trying to install the boxed version of Windows XP on a notebook. One problem, among others, was that the NIC wasn't supported. He'd have to go to a web site to download the drivers. If he hadn't had another computer available, he wouldn't have been able to get the drivers, to enable networking. As for the crapware, that's par for the course for Windows. Dell recently announced they're going to sell systems without it, but according to the same article I mentioned above, when they bought a new Toshiba computer, it was already loaded with with crapware! -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
Clayton wrote: FWIW, a friend has an IBM ThinkPad, that came loaded with Windows 98. A couple of years ago, she upgraded to XP and found she could no longer play video DVDs. After some checking, we found that she has to buy the necessary software, from a web site that's very irritating and difficult to navigate through. She decided against providing her credit card info and went without DVD video playback. Another issue is when you install such things, you often get a load of crapware along with it. So, it is not always so easy for Windows users either. interesting. This was new to me. I've seen this many times before. A few friends bought XP off the shelf... no DVD playback at all. A few bought pre-assembled package deal machines from a local computer store... some included a crippled DVD playback application on a few.. others had complete DVD playback apps. The only option for most was to buy (or illegally download in some cases) some commercial software. So.. this business of things like playing DVD out of the box... simply is a case of people getting systems with a software pack... not some inbuilt capability of Windows. Can't speak for Vista C. Quite so. Windows built in hardware support is actually very poor. It's only because the computer manufactures install the systems, that the hardware is supported. In this respect, Linux is far better than Windows. I always get a chuckle when some new piece of hardware works fine with Linux, but Windows requires a driver install. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
On Thursday 09 August 2007 10:08, Mike wrote: On Thursday 09 August 2007 16:54, Tero Pesonen wrote: FWIW, a friend has an IBM ThinkPad, that came loaded with Windows 98. A couple of years ago, she upgraded to XP and found she could no longer play video DVDs. After some checking, we found that she has to buy the necessary software, from a web site that's very irritating and difficult to navigate through. She decided against providing her credit card info and went without DVD video playback. Another issue is when you install such things, you often get a load of crapware along with it. So, it is not always so easy for Windows users either. interesting. This was new to me. It is? Here's a challenge. Take a new computer with NO OS on it. Install XP and tell me what you can do with it except surf the net with IE, use Outlook express, and play solitaire. Oh, and I hope all the hardware you have works out of the box. It might or not. If it doesn't, you have to go out and find the driver. Sound user friendly? Most things will work, but there are a few oddballs out there that don't. Look at the driver disk sometime for the equipment you buy. Does the average user know what type of network card they have? Not usually. It was working when I bought it, they say. So now you have to find that driver. Oh, but without the network card you can't connect to the net to find it. Been there done that. Thank goodness for a live linux cd. It found the card, and happened to have a driver. Mike I got computer with recovery CD for operating system only. The rest should be on hidden partition that was wiped off. It was interesting experience. Only screen, keyboard, mouse, USB and CD drive worked out of the box. What I did was to install openSUSE and it added memory card reader, sound, network, printer, better graphic and more in software. Than I was able to go to the net and collect missing pieces for out of the box OS. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
Mike wrote: On Thursday 09 August 2007 16:54, Tero Pesonen wrote: FWIW, a friend has an IBM ThinkPad, that came loaded with Windows 98. A couple of years ago, she upgraded to XP and found she could no longer play video DVDs. After some checking, we found that she has to buy the necessary software, from a web site that's very irritating and difficult to navigate through. She decided against providing her credit card info and went without DVD video playback. Another issue is when you install such things, you often get a load of crapware along with it. So, it is not always so easy for Windows users either. interesting. This was new to me. It is? Here's a challenge. Take a new computer with NO OS on it. Install XP and tell me what you can do with it except surf the net with IE, use Outlook express, and play solitaire. Sometimes you can't even do that much. As I mentioned in another note, someone tried installing XP on a notebook and found he had no driver for the NIC. He had to use another computer to download one. Also, a few years ago, I installed XP for someone and it wouldn't recognize their U.S. Robotics modem. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3beta1?
2007/8/9, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I assume that the last sync which happened this morning is complete. The bug you mention should be fixed - I'm confused ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 Is there a official announcement ?? any links ? -- Marcel Mourguiart -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
On Thursday 09 August 2007, James Knott wrote: Tero Pesonen wrote: On Thursday 09 August 2007, James Knott wrote: ould be a problem to many others though. FWIW, a friend has an IBM ThinkPad, that came loaded with Windows 98. A couple of years ago, she upgraded to XP and found she could no longer play video DVDs. After some checking, we found that she has to buy the necessary software, from a web site that's very irritating and difficult to navigate through. She decided against providing her credit card info and went without DVD video playback. Another issue is when you install such things, you often get a load of crapware along with it. So, it is not always so easy for Windows users either. interesting. This was new to me. Most people who use Windows are sheltered from reality, because they don't have to install anything to get the hardware working and as long as they stick with the original OS intall, they don't have a problem. I was recently reading an article, by someone who was trying to install the boxed version of Windows XP on a notebook. One problem, among others, was that the NIC wasn't supported. He'd have to go to a web site to download the drivers. If he hadn't had another computer available, he wouldn't have been able to get the drivers, to enable networking. As for the crapware, that's par for the course for Windows. Dell recently announced they're going to sell systems without it, but according to the same article I mentioned above, when they bought a new Toshiba computer, it was already loaded with with crapware! Yes, you're right. And the crapware is included because the PC makers lust after every extra penny they can get per unit sold, as the margins for PC's are so low. They don't care if the user wants it or not. I think Google is amongst the bigger companies that have paid to have their software included on new (at least Dell?) PC's and set up as the default. Tero -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Upgrading OpenOffice 2.0 to 2.2
On Thursday 09 August 2007 08:24, Clayton wrote: in some cases, reboot is required. dont know why :) When you update your kernel.. yes... otherwise When you decide to use xgl? And other times when it crashes. Admittedly, not many. Lynn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Upgrading OpenOffice 2.0 to 2.2
On Thursday 09 August 2007 08:24, Clayton wrote: in some cases, reboot is required. dont know why :) When I went from 2.0.4 to 2.1 I just added ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/OpenOffice.org/10.2-x86_64 to installation sources in yast and chose the new version. It pulled in some java stuff but no reboot was necessary. Just out of interest, what features o ooo are you looking for that are not available in the 2.0 suse version? Lynn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenSUSE 10.3 and dazuko
In /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.1-14/include/linux/dcache.h extern char *__d_path(struct dentry *, struct vfsmount *, struct dentry *, struct vfsmount *, char *, int, int); In dazuko-2.3.3/dazuko_linux26.c #ifndef WITH_LOCAL_DPATH extern char * __d_path(struct dentry *, struct vfsmount *, struct dentry *, struct vfsmount *, char *, int); #endif The last parameter is lost. In dazuko-2.3.3/README.linux26 If your kernel is SMP then you should _not_ use Dazuko's copy of __d_path(). You can disable Dazuko's local copy of __d_path() by configuring Dazuko with: $ ./configure --disable-local-dpath Result Compiling the dazuko kernel module is completed with an error. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3beta1?
2007/8/9, Marcel Mourguiart [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/8/9, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I assume that the last sync which happened this morning is complete. The bug you mention should be fixed - I'm confused ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 Is there a official announcement ?? any links ? Well here is the announcement, i found how to check the announcements archive. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-announce/2007-08/msg3.html -- Marcel Mourguiart -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
James Knott wrote: someone tried installing XP on a notebook and found he had no driver for the NIC. same for inboard motherboard, you must have the mobo cd. I even had a config with the cd as /dev/hda and the Hd as /dev/hdb, and XP didn't see the cd most of the time. say: * with with a pre-configured computer no OS should have any problem. * With a bare computer brand new, chance is you have the windows drivers thanks to the manufacturer. If you don't have you may never have them (may be only vista or only XP), not sure if Linux can install - will probably do with some hand work * with a not too new computer (say, one year old make, may be new), Linux installs nearly all without problem, Windows may ask for days of work if it can. the main drawback of Linux is new hardware (new printer, new scanner, new special hardawre): most don't work well. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://gourmandises.orangeblog.fr/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 21:23 +0200, Philipp Thomas wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:24:44 +0300, Munkii wrote: even better, i just installed alpha7 yesterday, i haven't been able to even install the basic dependencies for AWN, they're either not in the factory repos or yast/zypper is acting out on me, i just got smart up, and i'll see what i can do.. My last hurdle are the .desktop files for awn and awn-settings where I need to come up with a category listing our build system groks (I know next to nothing about .desktop files). But that means that the package itself builds so it shouldn't take long until I have it all in place. gcc package is broken on alpha7 i filed a bug but it turned out to be a duplicate, now it's almost impossible to compile awn from source, any progress on your package? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] postfix isn't accepting connections anymore. Any changes to postfix?
Dear list, I ran out of ideas. My postfix installation on a opensuse 10.0 isn't accepting connections anymore. Out of sudden!! I didn't change anything (last what I did was using the apt upgrades for apache and php the day before but there can't be any relation I guess). While port 25 is dead submission port 587 is working as expected. Log files are still growing since spammers were rejected (mail and mail.info). I tried everything I could think of (in my panic including a restart of the machine :-x) - turned firewall in yast on/off - tried with telnet remote and from localhost - googled the lines of the log files Is there anything recent I should know about postfix?? Is there a heavy spam attack? But it's not slow it isn't working anymore...Webserver and cyrus imap is running as it should. Thanks for any help. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Yast setup
I trashed my kernel. I have been thinking of replacing the HD anyways so I will probably just reinstall the OS from scratch. My question is where does yast keep the the config info like the update servers? I am hoping to just copy it from the old HD onto the new one after I get the initial install done. Thanks Michael Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] postfix isn't accepting connections anymore. Any changes to postfix?
Thu, 09 Aug 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear list, I ran out of ideas. My postfix installation on a opensuse 10.0 isn't accepting connections anymore. Out of sudden!! I didn't change anything (last what I did was using the apt upgrades for apache and php the day before but there can't be any relation I guess). While port 25 is dead submission port 587 is working as expected. Log files are still growing since spammers were rejected (mail and mail.info). Either it's not accepting connections, and thus not rejecting them either, or it is accepting connections and maybe rejecting (because of something you've changed). It can't be both. I tried everything I could think of (in my panic including a restart of the machine :-x) - turned firewall in yast on/off - tried with telnet remote and from localhost - googled the lines of the log files http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html When Postfix does not receive or deliver mail, the first order of business is to look for errors that prevent Postfix from working properly: % egrep '(warning|error|fatal|panic):' /some/log/file | more Theo -- Theo v. WerkhovenRegistered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 10.2 + Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kernel 2.6.20 + See headers for PGP/GPG info. Claimer: any email I receive will become my property. Disclaimers do not apply. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] How to speed up Ktorrent
I am downloading suse 10.3 beta 2 with Ktorrent, however, it says it is going to take 3 days. Why is it so slow and is there any way to speed it up? Average down speed is 12 KB/Sec while upload is 21 KB/Sec. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] mtrr error
Hello, Just noticed this message from 'dmesg'; mtrr: 0xd800,0x200 overlaps existing 0xd800,0x80 ~~ cating /proc/iomem shows; cat /proc/iomem -0009fbff : System RAM 0009fc00-0009 : reserved 000a-000b : Video RAM area 000c-000cdfff : Video ROM 000f-000f : System ROM 0010-1dfe : System RAM 0010-002d2bcf : Kernel code 002d2bd0-0037737f : Kernel data 1dff-1dff2fff : ACPI Non-volatile Storage 1dff3000-1dff : ACPI Tables d000-d7ff : :00:00.0 d800-dbff : PCI Bus #01 d800-dbff : :01:00.0 d800-d9ff : vesafb dc00-ddff : PCI Bus #01 dc00-dcff : :01:00.0 de00-deff : :00:0f.0 de00-deff : via-rhine de001000-de0010ff : :00:10.3 de001000-de0010ff : ehci_hcd de002000-de0020ff : :00:12.0 de002000-de0020ff : via-rhine - : reserved What does this error mean how can I fix it? Thank you, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?
* Munkii ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070809 23:56]: gcc package is broken on alpha7 i filed a bug but it turned out to be a duplicate, Bug number? any progress on your package? Nope :( No valid Category in .desktop files - no package. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] mtrr error
Just noticed this message from 'dmesg'; mtrr: 0xd800,0x200 overlaps existing 0xd800,0x80 ~~ cating /proc/iomem shows; cat /proc/mtrr? ~~~ Thanks Jan. cat /proc/mtrr reg00: base=0x ( 0MB), size= 512MB: write-back, count=1 reg01: base=0x1e00 ( 480MB), size= 32MB: uncachable, count=1 reg02: base=0xd000 (3328MB), size= 128MB: write-combining, count=1 reg03: base=0xd800 (3456MB), size= 8MB: write-combining, count=1 Now what? I am not sure what this means nor if something is wrong. Best regards, ~James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] mtrr error
On Aug 9 2007 15:52, James D. Parra wrote: Just noticed this message from 'dmesg'; mtrr: 0xd800,0x200 overlaps existing 0xd800,0x80 ~~ cating /proc/iomem shows; cat /proc/mtrr? Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] How to speed up Ktorrent
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 06:41 +0800, Art Fore wrote: I am downloading suse 10.3 beta 2 with Ktorrent, however, it says it is going to take 3 days. Why is it so slow and is there any way to speed it up? Average down speed is 12 KB/Sec while upload is 21 KB/Sec. Considering that Beta2 won't be released for two weeks I would say that is doing pretty good. Perhaps you meant to say Beta1? Ken -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3beta1 - factory mirrors dependency failure continues
On 2007/08/09 11:37 (GMT-0400) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed: Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do those of us who HTTP/FTP install Factory need to wait? 3 days ago I was prevented from success by https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=296332 which hasn't yet been marked fixed. I assume that the last sync which happened this morning is complete. The bug you mention should be fixed - I'm confused ;-) Just like the last time I tried a few days ago, the expert initial installation settings screen below Software in red says: Cannot solve dependencies automatically. Manual intervention is required. Trying to proceed through software selection is impossible due to dependency problems based on zypper. Dep checking continues to make mere attempted installation a painfully long process. AMD - i386 -- It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible.George Washington Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] mtrr error
On Thursday 09 August 2007 18:10, James D. Parra wrote: Just noticed this message from 'dmesg'; mtrr: 0xd800,0x200 overlaps existing 0xd800,0x80 ~~ cating /proc/iomem shows; cat /proc/mtrr? ~~~ Thanks Jan. cat /proc/mtrr reg00: base=0x ( 0MB), size= 512MB: write-back, count=1 reg01: base=0x1e00 ( 480MB), size= 32MB: uncachable, count=1 reg02: base=0xd000 (3328MB), size= 128MB: write-combining, count=1 reg03: base=0xd800 (3456MB), size= 8MB: write-combining, count=1 Now what? I am not sure what this means nor if something is wrong. Best regards, ~James So far I found this: http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=33736241 -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] postfix isn't accepting connections anymore. Any changes to postfix?
Thanks Theo for your fast answer. I ran out of ideas. My postfix installation on a opensuse 10.0 isn't accepting connections anymore. Out of sudden!! I didn't change anything (last what I did was using the apt upgrades for apache and php the day before but there can't be any relation I guess). While port 25 is dead submission port 587 is working as expected. Log files are still growing since spammers were rejected (mail and mail.info). Either it's not accepting connections, and thus not rejecting them either, or it is accepting connections and maybe rejecting (because of something you've changed). It can't be both. I telnet the server on port 25. Now the so called banner should be sent. But it isn't. So no chance to drop HELO. And after a while the connection will be closed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SLES9 refuses TIghtVNC 1.3.9 connections
2007/8/9, Xn Nooby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I try to conenct to my SLES9 boxes with the latest TightVNC program, all I I get is a Status: Protocol version negotiated message. Googling it appears the VNC server in SLES9 does not support the new protocol used in TightVNC 1.3.9, and the solution is to either upgrade the VNC Server on SLES9, or downgrade the client's TightVNC to 1.2.9. I'd like to use 1.3.9 on the client because it apparently properly traps Alt-Tab window cycling and sends it to the SLES9 box. How to I upgrade the VNC Server on my SLES9 box? I'm using SLES9 SP3. I was trying to find some new VNC rpms, but this site didn't seem searchable: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/ Any suggestions? Probably you could specify the protocol version to be used on the client (not sure, just guessing) Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SLES9 and MySQL5
2007/8/9, Michal Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ciro Iriarte wrote: Probably i'll copy the datafiles (as soon as i get the needed space) to a vmware installation and try to update mysql or probably reinstall it (rpm -e mysql/rpm -i mysql-5.blah). If you have the possibility to test your app in a testing environment, then this is definitely the recommended way. rpm -Uvh should work as That probably won't do it, the package are not the same. We currently have: mysql-4.1.10a-3.4 taken from suse 9.3 mysql-client-4.1.10a-3 taken from suse 9.3 mysql-shared-4.0.18-32.1 --- stock, needed by php and other packages. It'll be a mess to try to compile php with the new libs i guess mysql-devel-4.0.18-32.20 --- stock too MySQL5: libedit-devel-2.10.snap20070302-11.1.x86_64.rpm libedit0-2.10.snap20070302-11.1.x86_64.rpm --- huh? libmysqlclient-devel-5.0.45-2.1.x86_64.rpm libmysqlclient15-5.0.45-2.1.x86_64.rpm --- confused libmysqlclient_r15-5.0.45-2.1.x86_64.rpm --- confused mysql-5.0.45-2.1.x86_64.rpm --- goes in mysql-Max-5.0.45-2.1.x86_64.rpm -- not interested in mysql-bench-5.0.45-2.1.x86_64.rpm -- not interested in mysql-client-5.0.45-2.1.x86_64.rpm --- goes in mysql-debug-5.0.45-2.1.x86_64.rpm -- not interested in mysql-test-5.0.45-2.1.x86_64.rpm -- i don't think we need it mysql-tools-5.0.45-2.1.x86_64.rpm -- not sure pgpool-3.1.1-4.3.x86_64.rpm -- sounds out of place well btw, or adding the repo to yast (if you want to update all packages). For production i would like to wait for 5.1 as i'm interested on using table partitions (there's an ugly +60GB table around). Have any idea when it's going to be released (and added to Build Service)? I can't answer the first question. As for buildservice, there used to be rpms of 5.1 beta version in the same repository, but I removed them, as it caused problems when building other packages. I'm going to resurrect them however (after 10.3 or so). So the answer to the second question is soon after the official release ;) I'll report back the result of my tests. Cool. Looking forward for your results :) Michal Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop
On Thursday 09 August 2007 03:48, Eberhard Roloff wrote: Doug McGarrett wrote: On Wednesday 08 August 2007 05:03, Eberhard Roloff wrote: Kaare Rasmussen wrote: Hi One missing thing in your list imho: How silent will your computer need to be and what will you be able to spend for silence? Anyone has any input to this? Any sites that can help me with the configuration, any do-it-yourself sites? As regards silence, the old IBM keyboards are absolutely the most wonderful and loud keyboards in existance. Some electronics/computer/ham-radio fleamarkets have these. If noise is no object, get one! They seem to last forever. No Windows keys, but you probably wouldn't care. --doug, wa2say Fully agreed Although I confess being a silent PC geek and there is hardly anything that nerves me more than noisy PCs that I must work with for hours , this does not apply to keyboards. This is typed on a Model M style keyboard with 122 keys that I got from ebay for 10â¬. Looks like this http://www.shoppalstores.com/ibmmodelm/image//2002021-004.jpg The pictured keyboard is apparently a foreign version. I'm using 2 model Ms on my computers, and all the keys work with Linux or Windows, except probably the Scroll Lock, Print Screen, and Pause keys that I've never seen work on anything. My American model M's do not have any keys left of the Tab, Caps- Lock, Shift, Ctrl. And the bottom left alpha key is Z. --doug, wa2say Unfortunately not all keys work with a PC, but all I need and much more is there. This one is also suitable for self-defence and in case you need a hammer but do not one, you do not need to buy one. They are great, they are even greater when your PC is silent and they are greatest when there is no one else in the room who is constantly complaining about your IBM klicky-keyboard noise. ;-) Lately I found a solution to the latter problem and bought my wife another Model M. Now we are both on Klickey-Keyboard, she never wants to use anything else keyboardwise and most important, we are in love, once again. ;-)) regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: has anybody installed AWN svn on his openSUSE?
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 01:26 +0200, Philipp Thomas wrote: * Munkii ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070809 23:56]: gcc package is broken on alpha7 i filed a bug but it turned out to be a duplicate, Bug number? here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=298264 and this is the original: id=297716, which has (supposedly) been fixed any progress on your package? Nope :( No valid Category in .desktop files - no package. ah, forget about it if it's too much work, after all it's just a toy. the project is moving very fast anyway, and a non-svn will probably be available in a matter of weeks. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] keyboards, was: New desktop
Robert Smits wrote: On Wednesday 08 August 2007 19:08, James Knott wrote: Incidentally, many years ago, I bought a huge Cherry keyboard, without any encoder logic. I designed built my own encoder and used that keyboard with my IMSAI 8080. Had one of those. Mine came with the optional 4K memory, and I entered programs in with toggle switches I Byte at a time. In 1976 I got cassete tape drives, and then 8 inch floppy drives (1.2 MB each). Don't miss CP/M all that much, though. Mine didn't come with any memory. I bought a 16K board, loaded with 4K from another vendor. My system eventually reached 20K. I also used cassettes with it, but never graduated to floppies. I eventually connected it to my ham radio gear, a modem and also a Model 35 ASR Teletype. I designed and built an 8 port serial I/O card for it (only installed 4 UARTs) and in the process found a bug in the 8250A UART chip that National Semiconductor didn't know about. I also wrote a lot of my own software, though I bought an editor, monitor, assembler and BASIC (Scelbal) from Scelbi. I did a lot of learning with that box. Had a lot of fun with it too. It's hard to believe I bought it almost 31 years ago! -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] keyboards, was: New desktop
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 19:08, James Knott wrote: Incidentally, many years ago, I bought a huge Cherry keyboard, without any encoder logic. I designed built my own encoder and used that keyboard with my IMSAI 8080. Had one of those. Mine came with the optional 4K memory, and I entered programs in with toggle switches I Byte at a time. In 1976 I got cassete tape drives, and then 8 inch floppy drives (1.2 MB each). Don't miss CP/M all that much, though. Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections
On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 11:16 -0400, James Knott wrote: In the over thirty years I've been using computers, I've only once experienced a virus on my own computer. It was at work and I accidentlally left an infected floppy in my drive when I booted the computer. The IBMAV program I was using quickly found and removed it. Other than that one instance, I've never seen an infected OS/2 system, even though I used to do OS/2 and AV software support at IBM Canada. I haven't had any problems with a Linux system. On the other hand, I've seen many Windows computers so badly infected that the only recourse was to wipe the disk clean and reinstall. At one company that I supported, re-imaging was a common practice. Reimaging is used by the local Jr College because infections there are more common than in a red light district. After a bout with a boot sector virus I do not upload files from any media save in Linux. -- ___ _ _ _ _ _ _ || | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] keyboards, was: New desktop
On Thursday 09 August 2007 18:52, James Knott wrote: Robert Smits wrote: On Wednesday 08 August 2007 19:08, James Knott wrote: Incidentally, many years ago, I bought a huge Cherry keyboard, without any encoder logic. I designed built my own encoder and used that keyboard with my IMSAI 8080. Had one of those. Mine came with the optional 4K memory, and I entered programs in with toggle switches I Byte at a time. In 1976 I got cassete tape drives, and then 8 inch floppy drives (1.2 MB each). Don't miss CP/M all that much, though. Mine didn't come with any memory. I bought a 16K board, loaded with 4K from another vendor. My system eventually reached 20K. I also used cassettes with it, but never graduated to floppies. I eventually connected it to my ham radio gear, a modem and also a Model 35 ASR Teletype. I designed and built an 8 port serial I/O card for it (only installed 4 UARTs) and in the process found a bug in the 8250A UART chip that National Semiconductor didn't know about. I also wrote a lot of my own software, though I bought an editor, monitor, assembler and BASIC (Scelbal) from Scelbi. I did a lot of learning with that box. Had a lot of fun with it too. It's hard to believe I bought it almost 31 years ago! I used mine for connecting to usenet via ubc, and then as my packet radio terminal when we used V3 protocol before AX25. I'm VE7HS. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
