Re: [opensuse-factory] Grub Problem

2007-08-29 Thread Sid Boyce

Felix Miata wrote:

On 2007/08/29 04:25 (GMT+0100) Sid Boyce apparently typed:

I had a failing IDE HD as /dev/sda, so I installed 10.3 on a new SATA 
drive /dev/sdb and was booting from it until I removed /dev/sda. The 
SATA drive is now /dev/sda, but it won't boot, just the cursor on the 
top of the screen.
Booted from DVD to rescue, altered fstab and menu.lst was changed from 
(hd1,0) to (hd0,0), still won't boot and grub commands give unrecognised 
device string errors.

menu.lst now says
gfxmenu (hd0,0)/boot/message
No luck.


Rescue isn't as easy as it used to be. The solution in
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-04/msg00048.html might be
your solution.


Did all that, /dev/disk/by-* tree is sound, looked up info grub and 
info grub-install, nothing makes any sense.

# grub-install /dev/sda1
# grub-install /dev/sda
# grub-install (hd0)
# grub-install (hd0,0)
grub setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0)
grub setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0,0)
and other combinations using /dev/sda and /de/sda1 all give Error 12: 
Invalid device requested.
The odd thing is that when I had the IDE drive installed (/dev/sda) with 
the SATA (/dev/sdb), it booted off /dev/sdb, after removing the IDE 
drive, it refused to boot. fdisk -l /dev/sda shows the bootable flag 
on /dev/sda1. I have / and a swap partition on the drive.

I can't think of any incantation that will make grub do anything.
/dev/disk/by-id:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 240 Aug 29 11:13 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 
ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963 - ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part2 - ../../sda2

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80 - ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80-part2 - ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963 - ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part2 - ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 
usb-HP_Photosmart_C4180_MY6CMH72JX04J7-0:0 - ../../sdb


/dev/disk/by-path:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 140 Aug 29 11:13 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 
pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:2.3:1.3-scsi-0:0:0:0 - ../../sdb
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:04.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 - 
../../sr0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 - 
../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part2 - ../../sda2


/dev/disk/by-uuid:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  80 Aug 29 11:13 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
85d24d84-6169-4acd-8b05-0d4283199835 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
e99d0381-afb9-4678-93bb-14f9afd27247 - ../../sda2


Regards
Sid.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Grub Problem

2007-08-29 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer

Sid Boyce wrote:

Felix Miata wrote:

On 2007/08/29 04:25 (GMT+0100) Sid Boyce apparently typed:

I had a failing IDE HD as /dev/sda, so I installed 10.3 on a new 
SATA drive /dev/sdb and was booting from it until I removed 
/dev/sda. The SATA drive is now /dev/sda, but it won't boot, just 
the cursor on the top of the screen.
Booted from DVD to rescue, altered fstab and menu.lst was changed 
from (hd1,0) to (hd0,0), still won't boot and grub commands give 
unrecognised device string errors.

menu.lst now says
gfxmenu (hd0,0)/boot/message
No luck.


Rescue isn't as easy as it used to be. The solution in
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-04/msg00048.html 
might be

your solution.


Did all that, /dev/disk/by-* tree is sound, looked up info grub and 
info grub-install, nothing makes any sense.

# grub-install /dev/sda1
# grub-install /dev/sda
# grub-install (hd0)
# grub-install (hd0,0)
grub setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0)
grub setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0,0)
and other combinations using /dev/sda and /de/sda1 all give Error 12: 
Invalid device requested.
The odd thing is that when I had the IDE drive installed (/dev/sda) 
with the SATA (/dev/sdb), it booted off /dev/sdb, after removing the 
IDE drive, it refused to boot. fdisk -l /dev/sda shows the bootable 
flag on /dev/sda1. I have / and a swap partition on the drive.

I can't think of any incantation that will make grub do anything.
/dev/disk/by-id:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 240 Aug 29 11:13 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 
ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963 - ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part2 - ../../sda2

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80 - ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80-part1 - 
../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80-part2 - 
../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963 - ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part2 - ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 
usb-HP_Photosmart_C4180_MY6CMH72JX04J7-0:0 - ../../sdb


/dev/disk/by-path:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 140 Aug 29 11:13 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 
pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:2.3:1.3-scsi-0:0:0:0 - ../../sdb
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:04.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 
- ../../sr0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 
- ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part2 - ../../sda2


/dev/disk/by-uuid:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  80 Aug 29 11:13 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
85d24d84-6169-4acd-8b05-0d4283199835 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
e99d0381-afb9-4678-93bb-14f9afd27247 - ../../sda2


Regards
Sid.


The only way I could recover successfully in a similar situation is 
described here. Seems grub as a program itself gets its device info 
directly from the partition table only:


https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=showredirect=RecoverGrub

Regards,

FMF

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[opensuse-factory] zypper problem

2007-08-29 Thread Peter Nixon
The following Unexpected exception occurs for me when trying to update or 
install ANY package via zypper (or Yast)

Does anyone have any clue?

# zypper -vv in python-mysql
Verbosity: 2
Non-option program arguments: 'python-mysql'
Checking whether to refresh metadata for devel:tools:scm
Checking whether to refresh metadata for Factory
Checking whether to refresh metadata for openSUSE-10.3-Updates
Checking whether to refresh metadata for openSUSE-10.3-DVD_10.3_1
Checking whether to refresh metadata for openSUSE-extra-FTP_10.3
Checking whether to refresh metadata for Network:AAA
Checking whether to refresh metadata for devel:languages:python
Initializing Target
* Reading repository 'devel:tools:scm' cache
 (87 resolvables found)
* Reading repository 'Factory' cache
 (23637 resolvables found)
* Reading repository 'openSUSE-10.3-Updates' cache
 (380 resolvables found)
* Reading repository 'openSUSE-10.3-DVD 10.3' cache
 (5560 resolvables found)
* Reading repository 'openSUSE-extra-FTP 10.3' cache
 (215 resolvables found)
* Reading repository 'Network:AAA' cache
 (113 resolvables found)
* Reading repository 'devel:languages:python' cache
 (379 resolvables found)
* Reading installed packages [100%]
   (1628 resolvables)
capstr: python-mysql
Capability: [package] (namedcap) python-mysql
Adding requirement [package] (namedcap) python-mysql
0 items locked
Establishing status of aggregates
Resolving dependencies...

The following NEW package is going to be installed:
  python-mysql-1.2.1_p2-71.x86_64  (Factory)

Overall download size: 74.3 K. After the operation, additional 232.7 K will 
be used.
Continue? [y/n]: y
committing
Downloading package python-mysql-1.2.1_p2-71.x86_64, 74.3 K (232.7 K 
unpacked)
Downloading: 
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/media.1/media
* Downloading [100%]
Unexpected exception.
Can't provide file ./suse/x86_64/python-mysql-1.2.1_p2-71.x86_64.rpm from 
repository Factory
Please file a bug report about this.
See http://en.opensuse.org/Zypper#Troubleshooting for instructions.
Exiting main()


# rpm -qi zypper
Name: zypper   Relocations: /usr
Version : 0.8.16Vendor: SUSE LINUX Products 
GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany
Release : 2 Build Date: Sat Aug 25 07:48:51 
2007
Install Date: Wed Aug 29 13:43:43 2007  Build Host: antheil.suse.de
Group   : System/Packages   Source RPM: 
zypper-0.8.16-2.src.rpm
Size: 1234218  License: GPL v2 or later
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Sat Aug 25 07:56:26 2007, Key ID a84edae89c800aca
Packager: http://bugs.opensuse.org
URL : http://en.opensuse.org/Zypper
Summary : Command Line Package Management Using Libzypp
Description :
Command Line Package Management Using Libzypp



Authors:

Jan Kupec [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Duncan Mac-Vicar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Martin Vidner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Distribution: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] zypper problem

2007-08-29 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Peter Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Aug 29. 2007 13:56]:
 The following Unexpected exception occurs for me when trying to update or 
 install ANY package via zypper (or Yast)
 
 Does anyone have any clue?
 
Yes:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=305785

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Re: [opensuse-factory] zypper problem

2007-08-29 Thread Krupanský Rastislav
I had exactly the same problem (but with anothers packages).Andreas Jaeger  
had given me advice to create bug.Next day i tried commands,just to be  
sure.

zypper -vv ref
zypper up
and then it started work.i don´t know why, but it started:-)
Try it.Maybe it will help you.

Regards

The following Unexpected exception occurs for me when trying to update  
or

install ANY package via zypper (or Yast)

Does anyone have any clue?

# zypper -vv in python-mysql
Verbosity: 2
Non-option program arguments: 'python-mysql'
Checking whether to refresh metadata for devel:tools:scm
Checking whether to refresh metadata for Factory
Checking whether to refresh metadata for openSUSE-10.3-Updates
Checking whether to refresh metadata for openSUSE-10.3-DVD_10.3_1
Checking whether to refresh metadata for openSUSE-extra-FTP_10.3
Checking whether to refresh metadata for Network:AAA
Checking whether to refresh metadata for devel:languages:python
Initializing Target
* Reading repository 'devel:tools:scm' cache
 (87 resolvables found)
* Reading repository 'Factory' cache
 (23637 resolvables found)
* Reading repository 'openSUSE-10.3-Updates' cache
 (380 resolvables found)
* Reading repository 'openSUSE-10.3-DVD 10.3' cache
 (5560 resolvables found)
* Reading repository 'openSUSE-extra-FTP 10.3' cache
 (215 resolvables found)
* Reading repository 'Network:AAA' cache
 (113 resolvables found)
* Reading repository 'devel:languages:python' cache
 (379 resolvables found)
* Reading installed packages [100%]
   (1628 resolvables)
capstr: python-mysql
Capability: [package] (namedcap) python-mysql
Adding requirement [package] (namedcap) python-mysql
0 items locked
Establishing status of aggregates
Resolving dependencies...

The following NEW package is going to be installed:
  python-mysql-1.2.1_p2-71.x86_64  (Factory)

Overall download size: 74.3 K. After the operation, additional 232.7 K  
will

be used.
Continue? [y/n]: y
committing
Downloading package python-mysql-1.2.1_p2-71.x86_64, 74.3 K (232.7 K
unpacked)
Downloading:
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/media.1/media
* Downloading [100%]
Unexpected exception.
Can't provide file ./suse/x86_64/python-mysql-1.2.1_p2-71.x86_64.rpm from
repository Factory
Please file a bug report about this.
See http://en.opensuse.org/Zypper#Troubleshooting for instructions.
Exiting main()


# rpm -qi zypper
Name: zypper   Relocations: /usr
Version : 0.8.16Vendor: SUSE LINUX  
Products

GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany
Release : 2 Build Date: Sat Aug 25  
07:48:51

2007
Install Date: Wed Aug 29 13:43:43 2007  Build Host: antheil.suse.de
Group   : System/Packages   Source RPM:
zypper-0.8.16-2.src.rpm
Size: 1234218  License: GPL v2 or later
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Sat Aug 25 07:56:26 2007, Key ID a84edae89c800aca
Packager: http://bugs.opensuse.org
URL : http://en.opensuse.org/Zypper
Summary : Command Line Package Management Using Libzypp
Description :
Command Line Package Management Using Libzypp



Authors:

Jan Kupec [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Duncan Mac-Vicar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Martin Vidner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Distribution: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64)



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Re: [opensuse-factory] Grub Problem

2007-08-29 Thread Gabriel
Sid Boyce escribió:
 Felix Miata wrote:
 On 2007/08/29 04:25 (GMT+0100) Sid Boyce apparently typed:

 I had a failing IDE HD as /dev/sda, so I installed 10.3 on a new SATA
 drive /dev/sdb and was booting from it until I removed /dev/sda. The
 SATA drive is now /dev/sda, but it won't boot, just the cursor on the
 top of the screen.
 Booted from DVD to rescue, altered fstab and menu.lst was changed
 from (hd1,0) to (hd0,0), still won't boot and grub commands give
 unrecognised device string errors.
 menu.lst now says
 gfxmenu (hd0,0)/boot/message
 No luck.

 Rescue isn't as easy as it used to be. The solution in
 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-04/msg00048.html might be
 your solution.
 
 Did all that, /dev/disk/by-* tree is sound, looked up info grub and
 info grub-install, nothing makes any sense.
 # grub-install /dev/sda1
 # grub-install /dev/sda
 # grub-install (hd0)
 # grub-install (hd0,0)
 grub setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0)
 grub setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0,0)
 and other combinations using /dev/sda and /de/sda1 all give Error 12:
 Invalid device requested.
 The odd thing is that when I had the IDE drive installed (/dev/sda) with
 the SATA (/dev/sdb), it booted off /dev/sdb, after removing the IDE
 drive, it refused to boot. fdisk -l /dev/sda shows the bootable flag
 on /dev/sda1. I have / and a swap partition on the drive.
 I can't think of any incantation that will make grub do anything.
 /dev/disk/by-id:
 total 0
 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 240 Aug 29 11:13 ./
 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14
 ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963 - ../../sda
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
 ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part1 - ../../sda1
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
 ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part2 - ../../sda2
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80 - ../../sda
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80-part1 - ../../sda1
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80-part2 - ../../sda2
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14
 scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963 - ../../sda
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
 scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part1 - ../../sda1
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
 scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part2 - ../../sda2
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14
 usb-HP_Photosmart_C4180_MY6CMH72JX04J7-0:0 - ../../sdb
 
 /dev/disk/by-path:
 total 0
 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 140 Aug 29 11:13 ./
 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14
 pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:2.3:1.3-scsi-0:0:0:0 - ../../sdb
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:04.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 -
 ../../sr0
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 -
 ../../sda
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
 pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 - ../../sda1
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
 pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part2 - ../../sda2
 
 /dev/disk/by-uuid:
 total 0
 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  80 Aug 29 11:13 ./
 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
 85d24d84-6169-4acd-8b05-0d4283199835 - ../../sda1
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
 e99d0381-afb9-4678-93bb-14f9afd27247 - ../../sda2
 
 Regards
 Sid.

Shouldn't be necessary because you switch the disks, but, did you check
device.map ?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Grub Problem

2007-08-29 Thread Sid Boyce

Frank-Michael Fischer wrote:

Sid Boyce wrote:

Felix Miata wrote:

On 2007/08/29 04:25 (GMT+0100) Sid Boyce apparently typed:

I had a failing IDE HD as /dev/sda, so I installed 10.3 on a new 
SATA drive /dev/sdb and was booting from it until I removed 
/dev/sda. The SATA drive is now /dev/sda, but it won't boot, just 
the cursor on the top of the screen.
Booted from DVD to rescue, altered fstab and menu.lst was changed 
from (hd1,0) to (hd0,0), still won't boot and grub commands give 
unrecognised device string errors.

menu.lst now says
gfxmenu (hd0,0)/boot/message
No luck.


Rescue isn't as easy as it used to be. The solution in
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-04/msg00048.html 
might be

your solution.


Did all that, /dev/disk/by-* tree is sound, looked up info grub and 
info grub-install, nothing makes any sense.

# grub-install /dev/sda1
# grub-install /dev/sda
# grub-install (hd0)
# grub-install (hd0,0)
grub setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0)
grub setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0,0)
and other combinations using /dev/sda and /de/sda1 all give Error 12: 
Invalid device requested.
The odd thing is that when I had the IDE drive installed (/dev/sda) 
with the SATA (/dev/sdb), it booted off /dev/sdb, after removing the 
IDE drive, it refused to boot. fdisk -l /dev/sda shows the bootable 
flag on /dev/sda1. I have / and a swap partition on the drive.

I can't think of any incantation that will make grub do anything.
/dev/disk/by-id:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 240 Aug 29 11:13 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 
ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963 - ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part2 - ../../sda2

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80 - ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80-part1 - 
../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80-part2 - 
../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963 - ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part2 - ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 
usb-HP_Photosmart_C4180_MY6CMH72JX04J7-0:0 - ../../sdb


/dev/disk/by-path:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 140 Aug 29 11:13 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 
pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:2.3:1.3-scsi-0:0:0:0 - ../../sdb
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:04.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 
- ../../sr0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 
- ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part2 - ../../sda2


/dev/disk/by-uuid:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  80 Aug 29 11:13 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
85d24d84-6169-4acd-8b05-0d4283199835 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 
e99d0381-afb9-4678-93bb-14f9afd27247 - ../../sda2


Regards
Sid.


The only way I could recover successfully in a similar situation is 
described here. Seems grub as a program itself gets its device info 
directly from the partition table only:


https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=showredirect=RecoverGrub 



Regards,

FMF



Whoosh! that done it, thanks. Time was when grub was simpler, you never 
get anything like this from the man or info pages.

Regards
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Grub Problem

2007-08-29 Thread Sid Boyce

Gabriel wrote:

Sid Boyce escribió:

Felix Miata wrote:

On 2007/08/29 04:25 (GMT+0100) Sid Boyce apparently typed:


I had a failing IDE HD as /dev/sda, so I installed 10.3 on a new SATA
drive /dev/sdb and was booting from it until I removed /dev/sda. The
SATA drive is now /dev/sda, but it won't boot, just the cursor on the
top of the screen.
Booted from DVD to rescue, altered fstab and menu.lst was changed
from (hd1,0) to (hd0,0), still won't boot and grub commands give
unrecognised device string errors.
menu.lst now says
gfxmenu (hd0,0)/boot/message
No luck.

Rescue isn't as easy as it used to be. The solution in
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-04/msg00048.html might be
your solution.

Did all that, /dev/disk/by-* tree is sound, looked up info grub and
info grub-install, nothing makes any sense.
# grub-install /dev/sda1
# grub-install /dev/sda
# grub-install (hd0)
# grub-install (hd0,0)
grub setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0)
grub setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0,0)
and other combinations using /dev/sda and /de/sda1 all give Error 12:
Invalid device requested.
The odd thing is that when I had the IDE drive installed (/dev/sda) with
the SATA (/dev/sdb), it booted off /dev/sdb, after removing the IDE
drive, it refused to boot. fdisk -l /dev/sda shows the bootable flag
on /dev/sda1. I have / and a swap partition on the drive.
I can't think of any incantation that will make grub do anything.
/dev/disk/by-id:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 240 Aug 29 11:13 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14
ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963 - ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part2 - ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80 - ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80-part2 - ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963 - ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part2 - ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14
usb-HP_Photosmart_C4180_MY6CMH72JX04J7-0:0 - ../../sdb

/dev/disk/by-path:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 140 Aug 29 11:13 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14
pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:2.3:1.3-scsi-0:0:0:0 - ../../sdb
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:04.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 -
../../sr0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 -
../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part2 - ../../sda2

/dev/disk/by-uuid:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  80 Aug 29 11:13 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
85d24d84-6169-4acd-8b05-0d4283199835 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Aug 29 11:14
e99d0381-afb9-4678-93bb-14f9afd27247 - ../../sda2

Regards
Sid.


Shouldn't be necessary because you switch the disks, but, did you check
device.map ?

Regards.
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I certainly did and it is the same before and after the problem was 
fixed. I also had removed the line (hd1)/dev/sdb).

(fd0) /dev/fd0
(hd0) /dev/sda
I'm perplexed as to why simply removing the IDE drive would cause the 
SATA drive to suddenly not boot, must have been something in the stages.

Regards
Sid..

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[opensuse-factory] Re: Audacity in Opensuse 10.3 beta 1 or 2

2007-08-29 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:31:39 -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:

Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
[Switching to Thread 0xb676a6d0 (LWP 28895)]
0xe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
(gdb)

At that point, give it the bt command. This should give you a
backtrace.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSE 10.3 beta 2

2007-08-29 Thread Hubert Figuiere
Donn Washburn wrote:

 It seems that the DVD vesion that I spent 2+ days downloading with
 Bittorrent has a bug.  I have installed SuSE for about 10 years and the
 biggest headache has always been Dependence Check (DP).  I booted 10.3
 beta 2 and just about hit ALTN on about every case.  I finally got to
 select packages and even the default will not go passed DP check.  It is
 like it is stuck in a loop.  This happens with Accept or Try again.
  After satisfying Yasts problem and 10 minutes of time the blank
 Warning screen is back

This is unfortunately a known bug. I got hit by it too.
  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302496
It is fixed for next release.

Just a tip: for beta3 just download a delta iso and run applydeltaiso.

Cheers,

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-29 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 22:21 +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
  I know that this is a topic that gets endless questions. Perhaps because
  a mistake can be so problematic. Here goes mine:
  
  I am running an openSUSE 10.0 system with kernel 2.6.13-15.16-default.
  This is a rather recent security-fixed kernel. But still the 2.6.13 that
  came with 10.0.
  
  I am looking at trying a more recent kernel. Like
  kernel-default-2.6.22.5-4.1.i586.rpm, which is available from openSUSE's
  downloads.
  
  A few questions:
  
  1) This contains all the various SUSE patches so it will (or should) fit
  in like the 2.6.13 kernel did?
 
 I am not sure what you mean by fit in. It will most likely require
 updates of other packages to work correctly. RPM will probably tell you
 that it requires later versions of some packages when you try to install
 the kernel RPM.

I mean things like the boot splash and any other less obvious things
that SUSE fiddle with.

  2) Will this keep my current kernel? Meaning, can this rpm be removed
  allowing the original kernel to be used?
 
 The SuSE kernel RPMs will change your bootloader config via the RPM
 postinstall script. In principle, you can install several kernels in
 parallel (don't use RPM's -U option). All you have to make sure is that
 your bootloader config contains correct entries for both kernels (after
 the installation) so you can decide which one to boot at the grub boot
 menu. The installation of the new kernel RPM will probably change the
 default kernel entry in grub's menu.conf and if you're unlucky it will
 also mess up some old entries (I've seen it happening several times; it
 will probably also change some links in /boot) - therefore, you should
 check the bootloader config and /boot before rebooting the system.

I understand all that. It is a 'best case' scenario. If the RPM has no
errors. There was another thread here just recently where it was claimed
that the parallel install of kernels in fact replaced large parts of the
existing kernel. To be sure, as the kernel parts in /lib/modules
and /usr/src have different top level directories, I am not sure how
this could happen. But a determined RPM could surely find a way.

 I am usually compiling and installing new kernels myself, I do not use
 the RPM packages.
 
  3) Are there any issues with glibc when going from 2.6.13 to 2.6.22? Or
  any other issues? I see that sysfsutils needs updating. I guess this is
  because of the disk name changes. However, I do not find any sysfsutils
  for 10.0 when searching openUSUE (http://software.opensuse.org/search).
  The same is true for irqbalance.
 
 You not only have to install a new kernel but other software as well
 (you've already mentioned it), and this software needs to be
 backward-compatible otherwise it could happen that you're no longer able
 to run the old kernel (usually, it is). The main problem is that you
 might have to compile all of these additional packages yourself because
 nobody offers ready-to-use RPMs for old distro versions like SuSE
 10.0. And sometimes these software packages require updates of other
 software packages, and so on. Sometimes it can become quite tricky...
 
 My recommendation: think twice whether you really need a new kernel. I
 am also using 10.0 here and the kernel works fine for me. Do you need
 some of the new features in the latest kernel? If you only want to have
 a look at it and play with the latest kernel version, then it might
 be easier to setup a new openSuSE 10.2 or beta 10.3 on a spare partition
 (or in a virtual environment) and use it there. Otherwise you have to go
 through the process of updating some packages on 10.0 - whether this is
 easy or not depends a bit on your experience.

I think I will give it a pass. My real reason for this is new features
in the firewire video drivers that would drastically improve a component
I make. There is a greatly improved user-land DMA interface. I want to
try it, but it seems that it requires 2.6.19 or newer. I will next
investigate if this is because of the kernel itself, or because that is
when the new drivers were released. Maybe it will be easier to get the
newer firewire drivers to work with 2.6.13. I should be so lucky...

Which kernel introduced the udev changes? Wasn't it after 2.6.19?

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-29 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 18:28 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:

 I would rather install on another partition Beta 2 or wait few days for Beta3 
 (Sept. 6th). That way you get all software updated and if it doesn't work 
 well, there is good old 10.0 installation. 

We are planning our SUSE release support for the coming year. Our
primary platform is 10.0. We can't decide if we should go with 10.2 or
10.3. 10.2 we know. 10.3 is unknown. We need to decide/commit in the
next month. I think it make be a bit close for choosing 10.3.

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[opensuse] Conflicts on KDE upgrade

2007-08-29 Thread Ciro Iriarte
Hi, trying to update a [EMAIL PROTECTED] system with the latest KDE3
packages from build service i get a lot of conflicts between kdelibs3
and kdelibs3-32bit. Shouldn't this libraries go to a different
directory?

Example:

error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkspell.so.4.2.0 from install of
kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkspell2.so.1.0.0 from install of
kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libktexteditor.so.0.0.0 from install of
kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkunittest.so.1.0.0 from install of
kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkutils.so.1.2.0 from install of
kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkwalletbackend.so.1.0.0 from install of
kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkwalletclient.so.1.0.1 from install of
kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libvcard.so.0.0.0 from install of
kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3

Regards,
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RE: [opensuse] rsync and acl's

2007-08-29 Thread Per Jessen
James D. Parra wrote:

Does rsync not copy over the acl's? Is there a way to accomplish this?
 
 man rsync
 Result: yes = -AX
 
 ~
 Thanks, I had not noticed that the first time. By the way, what is the
 'X' switch? I don't see it in the manpage on Suse 9.3.
 

-A, --acls  preserve ACLs (implies -p) [non-standard]
-X, --xattrspreserve extended attrs (implies -p) [n.s.]



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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.3 Beta 2 Repositories

2007-08-29 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Tuesday 28 August 2007 22:41:54 Robert Lewis ste napísal:

 Everytime I go to YaST and try to do an Online Update Configuration
 I get a failure and it does not complete.  It says ERROR
 An error occured while connecting to the server.  I press Details and I
 get back: Cannot list services.

http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs_10.3_dev#openSUSE_10.3_Beta_2

Registration / Adding of Update Repositories fails (Bug #302152)

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[opensuse] Is side effect of ifup on iwconfig explicable ?

2007-08-29 Thread Tom Axehult

With respect to wlan and internet access I have had some success
with OS10.2 and so have
after a succession of DVD updating a remnant ifcfg-wlan0, now
evidently not entirely compatible
to OS10.3beta2.

There has however been no success in booting up the wlan ( in Linux
) during the good halfyear
of switching my dualboot Fujitsu-Siemens desktop between WinXp and
any alpha or beta version of
OpenSuse 10.*. Rather while in XP I use the YAReg tool for looking
into the Reiser file system
to examine the crucial man and /etc/.. files from within cygwin, in
relative repose, thus able
to send this email.

Tia to those reading what has become much too long / Tom
My observations are marked : Comment

After booting the state of 10.3 beta2 is examined:

Axehult-Fujitsu:/home/taxehult # ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:30:05:6C:7A:A7  
  UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:820 (820.0 b)  TX bytes:820 (820.0 b)

Comment: No wlan is discovered. In my brick house the desktop is 
10m for radio waves, 25m
   cable distance from the Dell Wireless 2350 Broadband
Router. I have no cable connection.

Axehult-Fujitsu:/home/taxehult # ndiswrapper -l
wlanuig : driver installed
device (0BF8:1007) present

Comment: Card: Fujitsu-Siemens Connect2Air E-5400 USB
   Chipset: Intersil-Frisbee + Netchip
   usbid: 0bf8:1007 Fujitsu Siemens Computers

Axehult-Fujitsu:/home/taxehult # ifconfig wlan0
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:30:05:61:02:61  
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1

Comment: why was that accepted ?

Axehult-Fujitsu:/home/taxehult # iwconfig wlan0
wlan0 IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:Axehult-Fujitsu
  Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated   
  Bit Rate:2 Mb/s   Tx-Power:32 dBm   
  RTS thr:2347 B   Fragment thr:2346 B   
  Encryption key:0850-1564-5915----** [3]   Security
mode:restricted
  Power Management:off
  Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0

Comment: Security mode:restricted. why ?

Axehult-Fujitsu:/home/taxehult # iwconfig wlan0 essid wireless key open
Axehult-Fujitsu:/home/taxehult # iwconfig
lono wireless extensions.

eth0  no wireless extensions.

wlan0 IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:wireless  Nickname:Axehult-Fujitsu
  Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.472 GHz  Access Point: 00:90:4B:E2:74:E8

  Bit Rate=6 Mb/s   Tx-Power:32 dBm   
  RTS thr:2347 B   Fragment thr:2346 B   
  Encryption key:0850-1564-5915----** [3]   Security
mode:open
  Power Management:off
  Link Quality:25/100  Signal level:-80 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0

Comment: Finally, ssid, AP and Security mode:open
And now something odd:

Axehult-Fujitsu:/home/taxehult # ifdown wlan0
wlan0 
Axehult-Fujitsu:/home/taxehult # ifup wlan0
wlan0 
Starting DHCP Client Daemon on wlan0... . IP/Netmask: 192.168.2.2 /
255.255.255.0 ('Axehult-Fujitsu') 
Error while executing:
   Command 'ip route replace to 213.163.128.185/24 via 192.168.2.1 dev
wlan0' returned:
  RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
   Configuration line: 213.163.128.185 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0 wlan0  
Error while executing:
   Command 'ip route replace to 213.142.0.242/24 via 192.168.2.1 dev wlan0'
returned:
  RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
   Configuration line: 213.142.0.242 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0 wlan0  

Axehult-Fujitsu:/home/taxehult # iwconfig wlan0
wlan0 IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:wireless  Nickname:Axehult-Fujitsu
  Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.472 GHz  Access Point: 00:90:4B:E2:74:E8

  Bit Rate=6 Mb/s   Tx-Power:32 dBm   
  RTS thr:2347 B   Fragment thr:2346 B   
  Encryption key:0850-1564-5915----** [3]   Security
mode:restricted
  Power Management:off
  Link Quality:29/100  Signal level:-77 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  

[opensuse] php script not working in firefox

2007-08-29 Thread Bogdan Cristea
I have a html page with a search box using a php script. However the search 
facility does not work, each time I press enter a new window appears asking 
to open or save the file *.php. Is there something else I need to install in 
order to have the php script working?
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Re: [opensuse] php script not working in firefox

2007-08-29 Thread Leo Eraly

Bogdan Cristea wrote:
I have a html page with a search box using a php script. However the search 
facility does not work, each time I press enter a new window appears asking 
to open or save the file *.php. Is there something else I need to install in 
order to have the php script working?


PHP works server-side. So it has nothing to do with your browser.
Probably there is something wrong with the server configuration.


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Re: [opensuse] php script not working in firefox

2007-08-29 Thread Bogdan Cristea
Sorry, I was not clear enough. The web page is opened locally. 

On Wednesday 29 August 2007 13:10, you wrote:
 Bogdan Cristea wrote:
  I have a html page with a search box using a php script. However the
  search facility does not work, each time I press enter a new window
  appears asking to open or save the file *.php. Is there something else I
  need to install in order to have the php script working?

 PHP works server-side. So it has nothing to do with your browser.
 Probably there is something wrong with the server configuration.


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Re: [opensuse] php script not working in firefox

2007-08-29 Thread Leo Eraly

Bogdan Cristea wrote:
Sorry, I was not clear enough. The web page is opened locally. 



I assume this is the reason why it's not working

A php page is parsed on the server and sends the html and output to the 
client ( = your browser).


from http://be.php.net/manual/en/introduction.php

...
What distinguishes PHP from something like client-side JavaScript is 
that the code is executed on the server.

...


You cannot open a php file locally in your browser. If you want to test 
it on a local machine you need to run a webserver on your machine and

access the page by surfing to it (e.g http://localhost/page.php)

Leo


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Re: [opensuse] php script not working in firefox

2007-08-29 Thread Daniel Bauer
On Wednesday 29 August 2007, Bogdan Cristea wrote:
 Sorry, I was not clear enough. The web page is opened locally.

 On Wednesday 29 August 2007 13:10, you wrote:
  Bogdan Cristea wrote:
   I have a html page with a search box using a php script. However the
   search facility does not work, each time I press enter a new window
   appears asking to open or save the file *.php. Is there something else
   I need to install in order to have the php script working?
 
  PHP works server-side. So it has nothing to do with your browser.
  Probably there is something wrong with the server configuration.
 

Bogdan Cristea was right anyway... If it's opened locally you need a webserver 
(apache) running on your computer. The webserver only executes those scripts 
that are located in the directories that are configured for it. IIRC if you 
installed the server with Yast then by default you have a directory /srv and 
pages or scripts you place in (subdirectories in) there are executed.

Also, to make apache handle your scripts you must load the page correctly with 
http://localhost/your_dir_inside_srv/your_page.html
(and *not*:  file:///srv/your_dir/your_page.html)

hth

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Re: [opensuse] php script not working in firefox

2007-08-29 Thread Daniel Bauer
Sorry: I wanted to say, that Leo Eraly was right, of course :-)
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Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-29 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 8/29/07, Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 18:28 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:

  I would rather install on another partition Beta 2 or wait few days for 
  Beta3
  (Sept. 6th). That way you get all software updated and if it doesn't work
  well, there is good old 10.0 installation.

 We are planning our SUSE release support for the coming year. Our
 primary platform is 10.0. We can't decide if we should go with 10.2 or
 10.3. 10.2 we know. 10.3 is unknown. We need to decide/commit in the
 next month. I think it make be a bit close for choosing 10.3.

10.2 security support should end Dec. 08 iiuc.
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Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-29 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Aug 29 2007 08:09, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 18:28 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:

 I would rather install on another partition Beta 2 or wait few days for 
 Beta3 
 (Sept. 6th). That way you get all software updated and if it doesn't work 
 well, there is good old 10.0 installation. 

We are planning our SUSE release support for the coming year. Our
primary platform is 10.0. We can't decide if we should go with 10.2 or
10.3. 10.2 we know. 10.3 is unknown. We need to decide/commit in the
next month. I think it make be a bit close for choosing 10.3.

Or you could use 10.2 plus a 3rd-party 2.6.22. Webpin will tell.




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Re: [opensuse] About install nvidia 7600GS on SUSE 10.0

2007-08-29 Thread Matthias Titeux
Le Mardi 28 Août 2007 05:05, Kalvin Weng a écrit :
 Dear All,

 I want to install nvidia 7600GS on suse 10.0  I download the drive from the
 nvidia.com and install as the readme step by step ,but it failed something
 with the kernal version.  Must I update the kernal version to the newest or
 I cann't install it ?

 Or I can use online update to install the drive automatically? Does it work
 ?

 Any one know what I should do ,thanks :)

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Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.2 installation on Raid 1

2007-08-29 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
On 08/29/2007 09:20 AM, James Knott wrote:
 I was using RAID 5 and the installer refused to configure the boot loader.
   
RAID 5 I am not sure of.

 How would I get to Yast, when I couldn't install a bootable system?
   
Don't you install from Yast?  I am pretty sure the configuration of the
bootloader is a part of what can be configured via the Yast install setup.

 As I mentioned above, I was using RAID 5, not RAID 1 and SUSE refused to
 install a boot loader with /boot on a RAID 5 array.

   
It may not work with Raid 5, but it does with Raid 1.  So it is limited
to needing a separate boot with Raid 5, probably Raid 0, and LVM.  It
isn't that it is software Raid, but the array type.  Raid 1 works great.

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[opensuse] Problem installing 10.3 beta2 with PATA SATA DVDs

2007-08-29 Thread Michael Cartmell
Hi,

I just updated to 10.3/x86 beta2 from beta1 using the DVD ISO.
Everything worked OK except for recognising the DVD during boot.

I have one PATA DVD  one SATA DVD.  The system can't boot from the SATA
DVD.  10.3b2 boots OK from the PATA DVD but then fails to load the
installation catalogue, gives me a message in red  then goes to the
manual install.  Checking the boot logs I see that it is trying to find
the catalogue on /dev/sr0, the SATA DVD.  I can proceed from that point
by selecting the PATA DVD  every thing is OK from then on.

In beta 1 the devices where /dev/hda (PATA)  /dev/sr0 (SATA)  I had no
problem.  This time they where /dev/sr1 (PATA)  /dev/sr0 (SATA).

This is probably a bug report but I found the registration process to be
somewhat intrusive in the amount of information required.

Thanks for the best distro around.

Regards,
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Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-29 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 12:48 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
 On Aug 29 2007 08:09, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 18:28 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
 
  I would rather install on another partition Beta 2 or wait few days for 
  Beta3 
  (Sept. 6th). That way you get all software updated and if it doesn't work 
  well, there is good old 10.0 installation. 
 
 We are planning our SUSE release support for the coming year. Our
 primary platform is 10.0. We can't decide if we should go with 10.2 or
 10.3. 10.2 we know. 10.3 is unknown. We need to decide/commit in the
 next month. I think it make be a bit close for choosing 10.3.
 
 Or you could use 10.2 plus a 3rd-party 2.6.22. Webpin will tell.

Webpin? I found http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/ 

Is that what you mean? What 3rd party kernel package does all the other
things needed to go from 2.6.13 to 2.6.22. Or whatever one introduced
big udev changes.


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Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-29 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 01:58:51PM +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 12:48 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
  On Aug 29 2007 08:09, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
  On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 18:28 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
  
   I would rather install on another partition Beta 2 or wait few days for 
   Beta3 
   (Sept. 6th). That way you get all software updated and if it doesn't 
   work 
   well, there is good old 10.0 installation. 
  
  We are planning our SUSE release support for the coming year. Our
  primary platform is 10.0. We can't decide if we should go with 10.2 or
  10.3. 10.2 we know. 10.3 is unknown. We need to decide/commit in the
  next month. I think it make be a bit close for choosing 10.3.
  
  Or you could use 10.2 plus a 3rd-party 2.6.22. Webpin will tell.
 
 Webpin? I found http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/ 
 
 Is that what you mean? What 3rd party kernel package does all the other
 things needed to go from 2.6.13 to 2.6.22. Or whatever one introduced
 big udev changes.

I guess he meant his own kernel.

You can use the 2.6.22 kernel from 10.3 on 10.2. Only thing affected is likely
udev/hal.

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-29 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 14:00 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:

 You can use the 2.6.22 kernel from 10.3 on 10.2. Only thing affected is likely
 udev/hal.

Seems like a big 'only thing' :)


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Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-29 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Aug 29 2007 14:00, Marcus Meissner wrote:
  Or you could use 10.2 plus a 3rd-party 2.6.22. Webpin will tell.
 
 Webpin? I found http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/ 
 
 Is that what you mean? What 3rd party kernel package does all the other
 things needed to go from 2.6.13 to 2.6.22. Or whatever one introduced
 big udev changes.

I guess he meant his own kernel.

You can use the 2.6.22 kernel from 10.3 on 10.2. Only thing affected is likely
udev/hal.

Well you can use the 10.3 one on 10.2, but it does not fly very well
when you need to compile modules. The kernel rpm is compiled with gcc
4.2 in 10.3, but there is gcc 4.1.2 installed on 10.2. A compiled
module is rejected by the kernel because its vermagic is different.
Which leaves you with two possibilities: either upgrade gcc (and, as
dependencies kick in, the whole distribution), or don't.




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Re: [opensuse] php script not working in firefox

2007-08-29 Thread Kai Ponte
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 02:59, Bogdan Cristea wrote:
 I have a html page with a search box using a php script. However the search
 facility does not work, each time I press enter a new window appears asking
 to open or save the file *.php. Is there something else I need to install
 in order to have the php script working?

Is PHP up and running as a service to apache?

Since PHP is a server-side script, if you're getting any PHP files on the 
browser, your server isn't running or processing the file properly.

You need to make sure (a) the PHP script is properly written (b) apache is 
running PHP as a module and (c) that the script is being called from within 
your page.

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Re: [opensuse] Epson Stylus C87+

2007-08-29 Thread Kai Ponte
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 03:34, Adi Nugroho wrote:
 Dear all,

 Is there someone here has experience with Epson Stylus C87+?
 I am interested to this printer, but it is not (yet) listed in
 http://openprinting.org/


Huh?

http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_C87

http://www.avasys.jp/english/linux_e/dl_ink.html


 SInce *ussually* epson printer is working well in Linux, I need advise, if
 this printer is working properly in openSUSE 10.2.


I can't imagine there being an issue. I've had great luck with Epson and HP 
printers as well as All-In-Ones.


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Re: [opensuse] Problem installing 10.3 beta2 with PATA SATA DVDs

2007-08-29 Thread Johannes Nohl
 I have one PATA DVD  one SATA DVD.  The system can't boot from the SATA
 DVD.  10.3b2 boots OK from the PATA DVD but then fails to load the
 installation catalogue, gives me a message in red  then goes to the
 manual install.  Checking the boot logs I see that it is trying to find
 the catalogue on /dev/sr0, the SATA DVD.  I can proceed from that point
 by selecting the PATA DVD  every thing is OK from then on.

 In beta 1 the devices where /dev/hda (PATA)  /dev/sr0 (SATA)  I had no
 problem.  This time they where /dev/sr1 (PATA)  /dev/sr0 (SATA).

I have a problem with pata and sata, too. And I filed a bug report,
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=301699. I don't know if
it's related. I use a nForce4 chipset.

Johannes
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Re: [opensuse] Removing Gnome

2007-08-29 Thread Kai Ponte
On Tuesday 28 August 2007 22:44, Ladislav Slezak wrote:
 Kai Ponte napsal(a):
  On Tuesday 28 August 2007 18:48, Fernando Costa wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  When I initially installed openSUSE 10.2, I choose all the default
  settings, big mistake, after that I realized that the default desktop
  enviroment was GNOME and not KDE I as expected so I reinstalled choosing
  both desktop environments now i want to uninstall al the gnome
  desktop, so, is it sure doing that through YAST? or is it better to wait
  for openSUSE 10.3 and upgrade the system just with the KDE option?
 
  Well, keep in mind that some apps - if you use them - use the GNOME
  libraries. For example, I occasionally use Pan, which requires the GNOME
  libraries.

 Yast will of course leave all needed libraries in the system, you shouldn't
 be afraid of any problems. 

Exactly!

 I should have mentioned that. I don't have the GNOME desktop but do have the 
appropriate libraries needed for GIMP and PAN.


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[opensuse] How do I upgrade 10.3 Beta1 to 10.3 Beta2

2007-08-29 Thread Art Fore
I am not having any luck upgrading Beta1 to Beta2.

I download the openSUSE-10.3-Beta1_Beta2-DVD-x86_64.delta.iso (via
Ktorrent which is as slow as Christmas) and try to burn it with K3B. K3B
comes up that it is not an iso image. Burn it anyway. Sure enough, it
will not boot.

Try doing online update configuration. Will not work, there is a bug on
this. Looked at the tar.gz file, no info on how to impliment the update
fix that I could find. The details CGI leads to dead end. 

Doing sofware management in Yast, it comes up with db locked. Delete
the /var/lip/zypp/db folder and try again. It updates and comes up with
the same error.

There is no full iso for the beta2 that I could find, so cannot even do
a new install.

After doing all of this, I insert a blank dvd in the dvd drive, hald no
longer comes up with a dialog box asking what to do with it.

So, any suggestion on howto update Beta1 to Beta2?

Art



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Re: [opensuse] How do I upgrade 10.3 Beta1 to 10.3 Beta2

2007-08-29 Thread Erik Jakobsen
Art Fore wrote:
 So, any suggestion on howto update Beta1 to Beta2?


   
Think you have downloaded the delta iso, that is the different between
the Beta1 and Beta2.
You have to link the delta iso to the Beta1 iso to get the full Beta2 iso.
Se opensuse for further details.

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Re: [opensuse] How do I upgrade 10.3 Beta1 to 10.3 Beta2

2007-08-29 Thread Druid
this is the exactly moment you should start reading the help for the
command applydeltaiso, provided by deltarpm.rpm

On 8/29/07, Art Fore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am not having any luck upgrading Beta1 to Beta2.

 I download the openSUSE-10.3-Beta1_Beta2-DVD-x86_64.delta.iso (via
 Ktorrent which is as slow as Christmas) and try to burn it with K3B. K3B
 comes up that it is not an iso image. Burn it anyway. Sure enough, it
 will not boot.

 Try doing online update configuration. Will not work, there is a bug on
 this. Looked at the tar.gz file, no info on how to impliment the update
 fix that I could find. The details CGI leads to dead end.

 Doing sofware management in Yast, it comes up with db locked. Delete
 the /var/lip/zypp/db folder and try again. It updates and comes up with
 the same error.

 There is no full iso for the beta2 that I could find, so cannot even do
 a new install.

 After doing all of this, I insert a blank dvd in the dvd drive, hald no
 longer comes up with a dialog box asking what to do with it.

 So, any suggestion on howto update Beta1 to Beta2?

 Art



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Re: [opensuse] How do I upgrade 10.3 Beta1 to 10.3 Beta2

2007-08-29 Thread Erik Jakobsen
Erik Jakobsen wrote:

 Think you have downloaded the delta iso, that is the different between
 the Beta1 and Beta2.
 You have to link the delta iso to the Beta1 iso to get the full Beta2 iso.
 Se opensuse for further details.

   
The link for the help is to be found here:

http://en.opensuse.org/Download_Instructions

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Re: [opensuse] How do I upgrade 10.3 Beta1 to 10.3 Beta2

2007-08-29 Thread Ken Schneider
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 22:06 +0800, Art Fore wrote:
 I am not having any luck upgrading Beta1 to Beta2.
 
 I download the openSUSE-10.3-Beta1_Beta2-DVD-x86_64.delta.iso (via
 Ktorrent which is as slow as Christmas) and try to burn it with K3B. K3B
 comes up that it is not an iso image. Burn it anyway. Sure enough, it
 will not boot.
 

That's because it's not an iso, it only contains the changes between B1
and B2 that nee to be applied to B1 to make the B2 iso.

Ken

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[opensuse] compiz +emerald +suse 10.2, 10.3

2007-08-29 Thread Art Fore
Started this email with a problem with compiz, but think I found the
answer. When I would boot into suse level 5, I could no get the start
menu or do anything else other than right-click, and log out. I would go
to console session, the startx. Logout again, and do startx again, then
everything seemed to work as it should.

In ~.kde/Autostart/startcompiz.sh, I changed it from 

#! /bin/sh
compiz --replace ccp 
emerald --replace 

#! /bin/sh
emerald --replace 

It now works from cold boot without having to logout etc. Without the
emarald statement, the windows have no decoration at all, not even the
close-minimize-maximize buttons.

Also changed the NVIDIA drivers from 9639 to 100.14.11. KDE no longer
locks up on exit as it did before and I get about a 2% increase in the
glxgears fps noted below.

I do have another question related though. 

Suse 10.2 system is AMD X64 X2 +3200 with Nvidia Gforce 7300 GT AGP
graphic card. Doing glxgears, as it opens, I get about 6500 fps. I
maximize it to full screen of 1680X1050 and get about 400 fps.

Suse 10.3 system is AMD X64 X2 +4600 with Nvidia Gforce 7300 GT PciE X16
graphic card. Doing glxgears, as it opens, I get about 4500 fps. I
maximize it to full screen of 1680X1050 and get about 290 fps.

With 10.3 system I also tried Geforce 7600GS and got about the same
thing. 

The question is, is it normal for the PCI Express X16 to be so much
slower than the AGP8? I mean, the 7300 GT and 7600 GS are not the
speediest cards on the block, but I would expect they would be closer
thatn that.

Art

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Re: [opensuse] How do I upgrade 10.3 Beta1 to 10.3 Beta2

2007-08-29 Thread Art Fore
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 11:12 -0300, Druid wrote:
 this is the exactly moment you should start reading the help for the
 command applydeltaiso, provided by deltarpm.rpm
 
 On 8/29/07, Art Fore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am not having any luck upgrading Beta1 to Beta2.
 
  I download the openSUSE-10.3-Beta1_Beta2-DVD-x86_64.delta.iso (via
  Ktorrent which is as slow as Christmas) and try to burn it with K3B. K3B
  comes up that it is not an iso image. Burn it anyway. Sure enough, it
  will not boot.
 
  Try doing online update configuration. Will not work, there is a bug on
  this. Looked at the tar.gz file, no info on how to impliment the update
  fix that I could find. The details CGI leads to dead end.
 
  Doing sofware management in Yast, it comes up with db locked. Delete
  the /var/lip/zypp/db folder and try again. It updates and comes up with
  the same error.
 
  There is no full iso for the beta2 that I could find, so cannot even do
  a new install.
 
  After doing all of this, I insert a blank dvd in the dvd drive, hald no
  longer comes up with a dialog box asking what to do with it.
 
  So, any suggestion on howto update Beta1 to Beta2?
 
  Art
 
 
 
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Never heard of this or seen anything on the opensuse website about it,
but will try it tomorrow as it is getting late here tonight and I have
to go to work tomorrow morning.

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[opensuse] mount cifs via fstab

2007-08-29 Thread Greg Freemyer
All,

I have a few remote samba shares I want to mount from my desktop.

I have not found the magic method yet.

I looked in Yast - nothing, the opensuse wiki - nothing, google - lots
but it does not seem to work on my box.

FYI: Both the samba server and my desktop are opensuse 10.2 with
updates applied.

So is there a KDE tool to update fstab?  Or do I do it manually, and
if so what is the right syntax.

I'm trying:
//10.0.1.44/share /my_mnt cifs
user=me,pass=my_pwd,noperm,dir_mode=0777,rw 0 0

and it fails.  From Konquerer I can access smb://10.0.1.44/share with
the above user/pwd so the basics should be right.

Thanks
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[opensuse] not able to start openoffice.org spadmin on opensuse 10.2

2007-08-29 Thread Guido Pinkernell
Hi all,

I recently sent this to the openoffice mailing list, with no response yet. 
Probably this has more to do with opensuse. Here we go:

This problem occurs on my freshly installed openSUSE 10.2 x86-64 system with 
openoffice.org 2.2.1-43.1: I can't start spadmin for installing a printer. 
What happens is this:

amilo:/usr/lib64/ooo-2.0/program # ./spadmin
sh: paperconf: command not found
Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 603: _dl_open: Assertion 
`_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)-r_state == 
RT_CONSISTENT' failed!

Is there any way to have a printer installed?

Thanks, Guido
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Re: [opensuse] compiz +emerald +suse 10.2, 10.3

2007-08-29 Thread CyberOrg
On 8/29/07, Art Fore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In ~.kde/Autostart/startcompiz.sh, I changed it from

 #! /bin/sh
 compiz --replace ccp 
 emerald --replace 


You do not require emerald --replace in there, add that to ccsm -
decoration - command.

See also: http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz_Fusion

Regarding fps, no idea, may be someone else knows about that.

Ciao

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[opensuse] how to start wlan

2007-08-29 Thread jdd

Hello,
I'm probably dumb or not well awaiken :-).

I use openSUSE 10.2
I have an ethernet card for internet link (fixed IP)

I just plugin a pcmcia wifi (wlan) card seen as Ralink RT2500 802.11g 
cardbus miniPCI.


I don't have any other wifi of my own, except a wifi cellular phone.

I configured (partly at random) my wifi card on an other network (IP) 
than the eth card (also fixed IP)


and then, I can't start the wifi network  the eth net. Only the eth 
net is started by rcnetworks start


what may I do to have it start?

It seems to start if _I remove the eth card_, but my cellular don't 
see it.


I already used my wifi cellular with other installs, but I have no 
access point here. Can the wifi card work like an access point with 
only two wifi device present?


thanks
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Re: [opensuse] not able to start openoffice.org spadmin on opensuse 10.2

2007-08-29 Thread Guido Pinkernell
Am Mittwoch, 29. August 2007 16:57:13 schrieb Guido Pinkernell:
 Hi all,

 I recently sent this to the openoffice mailing list, with no response yet.
 Probably this has more to do with opensuse. Here we go:

 This problem occurs on my freshly installed openSUSE 10.2 x86-64 system
 with openoffice.org 2.2.1-43.1: I can't start spadmin for installing a
 printer. What happens is this:

 amilo:/usr/lib64/ooo-2.0/program # ./spadmin
 sh: paperconf: command not found
 Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 603: _dl_open: Assertion
 `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)-r_state ==
 RT_CONSISTENT' failed!

 Is there any way to have a printer installed?

Hm. After a reboot of my system everything works as expected. 
Never mind

Guido

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Re: [opensuse] mount cifs via fstab

2007-08-29 Thread G T Smith
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Greg Freemyer wrote:
 All,
 
 I have a few remote samba shares I want to mount from my desktop.
 
 I have not found the magic method yet.
 
 I looked in Yast - nothing, the opensuse wiki - nothing, google - lots
 but it does not seem to work on my box.
 
 FYI: Both the samba server and my desktop are opensuse 10.2 with
 updates applied.
 
 So is there a KDE tool to update fstab?  Or do I do it manually, and
 if so what is the right syntax.
 
 I'm trying:
 //10.0.1.44/share /my_mnt cifs
 user=me,pass=my_pwd,noperm,dir_mode=0777,rw 0 0
 
 and it fails.  From Konquerer I can access smb://10.0.1.44/share with
 the above user/pwd so the basics should be right.
 
 Thanks
 Greg
 

I would suggest you have a look at..

 http://pserver.samba.org/samba/ftp/cifs-cvs/linux-cifs-client-guide.pdf

This also gives some help with some settings which can be helpful with
OpenOffice documents on cifs on the samba server side. There are also
some things to watch out for with UID and GUID settings, (Unless you
state otherwise the mount will not always apply the UID and GID of the
samba user to access files on the server, which can be a bit of a pain).



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Re: [opensuse] mount cifs via fstab

2007-08-29 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 8/29/07, G T Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Greg Freemyer wrote:
  All,
 
  I have a few remote samba shares I want to mount from my desktop.
 
  I have not found the magic method yet.
 
  I looked in Yast - nothing, the opensuse wiki - nothing, google - lots
  but it does not seem to work on my box.
 
  FYI: Both the samba server and my desktop are opensuse 10.2 with
  updates applied.
 
  So is there a KDE tool to update fstab?  Or do I do it manually, and
  if so what is the right syntax.
 
  I'm trying:
  //10.0.1.44/share /my_mnt cifs
  user=me,pass=my_pwd,noperm,dir_mode=0777,rw 0 0
 
  and it fails.  From Konquerer I can access smb://10.0.1.44/share with
  the above user/pwd so the basics should be right.
 
  Thanks
  Greg
 

 I would suggest you have a look at..

  http://pserver.samba.org/samba/ftp/cifs-cvs/linux-cifs-client-guide.pdf

 This also gives some help with some settings which can be helpful with
 OpenOffice documents on cifs on the samba server side. There are also
 some things to watch out for with UID and GUID settings, (Unless you
 state otherwise the mount will not always apply the UID and GID of the
 samba user to access files on the server, which can be a bit of a pain).

Okay, for those that follow, my problem was the  symbols in the
above.  They were in the HowTo stuff I read, so I assumed they were
part of the syntax.  You would think HowTo writers would know the
Linux syntax in examples is user and password, not user and
password.  If they would have used standard linux syntax for syntax
I would have known what to do without the hassle.

Thanks again
greg
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Re: [opensuse] mount cifs via fstab

2007-08-29 Thread Greg Freemyer
Thanks, looks good.  There is too much info out there to make google a friend.

I'm very surprised that Novell does not have an easy to find HowTo for this.

Greg

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 Greg Freemyer wrote:
  All,
 
  I have a few remote samba shares I want to mount from my desktop.
 
  I have not found the magic method yet.
 
  I looked in Yast - nothing, the opensuse wiki - nothing, google - lots
  but it does not seem to work on my box.
 
  FYI: Both the samba server and my desktop are opensuse 10.2 with
  updates applied.
 
  So is there a KDE tool to update fstab?  Or do I do it manually, and
  if so what is the right syntax.
 
  I'm trying:
  //10.0.1.44/share /my_mnt cifs
  user=me,pass=my_pwd,noperm,dir_mode=0777,rw 0 0
 
  and it fails.  From Konquerer I can access smb://10.0.1.44/share with
  the above user/pwd so the basics should be right.
 
  Thanks
  Greg
 

 I would suggest you have a look at..

  http://pserver.samba.org/samba/ftp/cifs-cvs/linux-cifs-client-guide.pdf

 This also gives some help with some settings which can be helpful with
 OpenOffice documents on cifs on the samba server side. There are also
 some things to watch out for with UID and GUID settings, (Unless you
 state otherwise the mount will not always apply the UID and GID of the
 samba user to access files on the server, which can be a bit of a pain).



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Re: [opensuse] Opensuse 10.2 ATI Drivers won't load DRI - no 3D

2007-08-29 Thread David C. Rankin
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
 On Aug 24 2007 12:19, David C. Rankin wrote:
   
 Mates,

On my Toshiba P35 laptop with the ati Radeon 9700 chipset and the
 latest drivers install via yast, there is no 3D and glxgears gives only
 160 FPS.  The fglrx rpms installed are:

 Rankin-P35a:/home/david # rpm -qa | grep fglrx
 x11-video-fglrxG01-8.36.5-7.1
 ati-fglrxG01-kmp-default-8.36.5_2.6.18.8_0.3-2.1
 
  ^^
   
 Kernel Installed is:

 Rankin-P35a:/home/david # uname -r
 2.6.22.3-ccj53-default
 
  ^^


 Not heard of recompiling ATI, yet?



   Jan
   
Nice 2076 pfs on my laptop w/glxgears not bad...

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Re: [opensuse] php script not working in firefox

2007-08-29 Thread Jos van Kan
Bogdan Cristea schreef:
 Sorry, I was not clear enough. The web page is opened locally. 
 
 On Wednesday 29 August 2007 13:10, you wrote:
 Bogdan Cristea wrote:
 I have a html page with a search box using a php script. However the
 search facility does not work, each time I press enter a new window
 appears asking to open or save the file *.php. Is there something else I
 need to install in order to have the php script working?
 PHP works server-side. So it has nothing to do with your browser.
 Probably there is something wrong with the server configuration.


If you want to test php scripts without installing a full blown webserver you
may consider installing php on your machine and do a

php foo.php  foo.html

from the command line.

Alternatively there is the invaluable

http://www.meandeviation.com/tutorials/learnphp/php-syntax-check

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[opensuse] Dual and Quad core processors

2007-08-29 Thread Robert Lewis
I was thinking about buying a Q6600 processor that
has four cores.

Does anyone have htop running using this processor?

Does htop show all four cores?

Is the current kernel multi-threaded such that the
end user gets any benefit if they purchase this processor?

My laptop has dual core and I do see htop reporting that
the both CPU's are being utilized.

Cheers,
Bob
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Re: [opensuse] Dual and Quad core processors

2007-08-29 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Aug 29 2007 10:46, Robert Lewis wrote:
I was thinking about buying a Q6600 processor that
has four cores.

Does anyone have htop running using this processor?
Does htop show all four cores?

top (not sure about htop) will show 'cpus', which is the liberal term for core
in linux.

Is the current kernel multi-threaded such that the
end user gets any benefit if they purchase this processor?

The kernel is MT. We'd be in performance hell if it was not.
Though there is some code which makes use of the BKL
[http://lwn.net/Articles/202780/], which means you actually
get to notice performance minuses.
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Re: [opensuse] Dual and Quad core processors

2007-08-29 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Aug 29 2007 19:55, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Aug 29 2007 10:46, Robert Lewis wrote:
I was thinking about buying a Q6600 processor that
has four cores.

Does anyone have htop running using this processor?
Does htop show all four cores?

top (not sure about htop) will show 'cpus', which is the liberal term for core
in linux.

Yes, it shows one bar per core.
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Re: [opensuse] Dual and Quad core processors

2007-08-29 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 10:46, Robert Lewis wrote:
 I was thinking about buying a Q6600 processor that
 has four cores.

 Does anyone have htop running using this processor?

It handles two just fine, I'm sure four will work, too.


 Does htop show all four cores?

It should.


 Is the current kernel multi-threaded such that the
 end user gets any benefit if they purchase this processor?

Linux has been able to support multi-CPU and multi-core processor for 
quite a while.

The issue is more how any given application is written. No application 
parallelizes automatically.


 My laptop has dual core and I do see htop reporting that
 the both CPU's are being utilized.

Modern operating systems frequently have more than one runnable thread 
or process.

Individual applications are another story. While GUI applications 
typically have a certain amount of multi-threading to accommodate the 
event-driven programming model of modern GUI frameworks, their core 
functionality is something else. Some do and some don't. It's not even 
meaningful for all applications to be multi-threaded.


Anyway, the advent of multi-core processors is driving developers to 
exploit them on a more widespread basis for the first time. You can 
expect a couple of things:

1) An general trend toward better performance as multi-core systems 
become more common and programmers learn to exploit them.

2) Concurrency bugs: Concurrent programming can be much more challenging 
than conventional single-thread programming. Programmers, especially 
application programmers, haven't generally had to deal with concurrent 
programming models in the past.


The Core 2 processors are a considerable improvement over their 
predecessors. I doubt you'll be sorry to have built a system around one 
of them.


 Cheers,
 Bob


Randall Schulz

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[opensuse] openXchange

2007-08-29 Thread Bjarne Hansen

Was wondering if anyone had run into the problem of openXchange as setup
  default in opensuse, that contacts (using ldap and postgresql) are in
  the database but not showing up when doing a search?


Powered by Open-Xchange.com

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[opensuse] Re: Conflicts on KDE upgrade

2007-08-29 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2007/8/29, Ciro Iriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi, trying to update a [EMAIL PROTECTED] system with the latest KDE3
 packages from build service i get a lot of conflicts between kdelibs3
 and kdelibs3-32bit. Shouldn't this libraries go to a different
 directory?

 Example:

 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkspell.so.4.2.0 from install of
 kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
 kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkspell2.so.1.0.0 from install of
 kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
 kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libktexteditor.so.0.0.0 from install of
 kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
 kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkunittest.so.1.0.0 from install of
 kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
 kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkutils.so.1.2.0 from install of
 kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
 kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkwalletbackend.so.1.0.0 from install of
 kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
 kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkwalletclient.so.1.0.1 from install of
 kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
 kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libvcard.so.0.0.0 from install of
 kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package
 kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3

 Regards,
 Ciro

Is smart choosing the wrong architecture?, i checked and the installed
packages are for x86_64 and the repository
(http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.1/)
includes packages for x86_64.

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Re: [opensuse] OpenSUSE 10.3 and dazuko

2007-08-29 Thread Gmail Rhaddamant
http://dazuko.org/

you can just wait for 2.3.4 :-)


Yuriy Lalym wrote:
 In /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.1-14/include/linux/dcache.h


 extern char *__d_path(struct dentry *, struct vfsmount *, struct
 dentry *, struct vfsmount *, char *, int, int);


 In dazuko-2.3.3/dazuko_linux26.c


 #ifndef WITH_LOCAL_DPATH
 extern char * __d_path(struct dentry *, struct vfsmount *, struct
 dentry *, struct vfsmount *, char *, int);
 #endif

 The last parameter is lost.


 In dazuko-2.3.3/README.linux26


 If your kernel is SMP then you should _not_ use Dazuko's copy of
 __d_path().
 You can disable Dazuko's local copy of __d_path() by configuring
 Dazuko with:

 $ ./configure --disable-local-dpath


 Result

 Compiling the dazuko kernel module is completed with an error.


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[opensuse] Getting rid of annoying first-time dialogs

2007-08-29 Thread Jan Engelhardt
Hi lists and Novell,


as I set up a diskless boot, I am facing a rather desktop-oriented 
problem. Have a look at this screenshot:

http://jengelh.hopto.org/GFX0/ohnoes.png

what we see here is

* opensuse/novell registration

* “wanna configure your network card?”

Is there a simple way to disable these annoyances globally? I really do 
not think a user should configure around hardware! (In the past, similar 
dialogs have popped up asking _regular_ users to configure hard disks. 
What for? They do not even have the privileges for it.)


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[opensuse] Asterisk 1.4.10 and freePBX 2.3

2007-08-29 Thread Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru)
Hi !

Anyone has been able to configure Asterisk 1.4.10 to work with freePBX on SuSE 
10.2?

I am struggling to do so dispite following instruction on freePBX install 
guide.

I have downloaded Asterisk 1.4.10 RPMs from:
download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/vitsoft/openSUSE_10.2/i586/

Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s)
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[opensuse] Tape Drive for personal usage

2007-08-29 Thread Jorge Fábregas
Hello Guys,

Do anyone of you use any tape drive for personal backup? I personally use a 
2nd internal hard-drive where I perform nightly backups but twice a year I 
backup to offline media (DVD-R DL media)...but right now I'm reaching 100 GB 
of data...that's a bunch of data to burn!  (even if it's dual layer media).  
I know there are HD and Blu-ray drives but they're too expensive. I think I 
can get a tape-drive for much mess.

I just would like to know if anyone recommends any particular tape-drive and 
also what software do you use with it (just plain tar?)  

Thanks!
Jorge
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Re: [opensuse] Tape Drive for personal usage

2007-08-29 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 8/29/07, Jorge Fábregas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Guys,

 Do anyone of you use any tape drive for personal backup? I personally use a
 2nd internal hard-drive where I perform nightly backups but twice a year I
 backup to offline media (DVD-R DL media)...but right now I'm reaching 100 GB
 of data...that's a bunch of data to burn!  (even if it's dual layer media).
 I know there are HD and Blu-ray drives but they're too expensive. I think I
 can get a tape-drive for much mess.

 I just would like to know if anyone recommends any particular tape-drive and
 also what software do you use with it (just plain tar?)

 Thanks!

Good tape drives are expensive (LTO, DLT, AIT).  Cheap tape drives are
not worth the money (DDS4, etc.) imho.

For only 100GB, you might look for a used one (eBay?), but even they
are likely too expensive for home use.

The only middle ground I know of is the Exabyte VXA-2 drives, but I
have not kept up with real world feedback, just the initial specs from
a few years ago.  New they are too expensive for home use, but maybe
you can find a used one?

Greg
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[opensuse] 32b compiled program not running in 64x environment - open SuSE 10.2

2007-08-29 Thread Vahe Avedissian
Hi,

I have open SuSE 10.2 32 and 64 bit installed on the same machine.

I compile a small matlab example under 32b (either by booting 32b linux or -m32 
compiler flag) and run under 32 and 64 bit
linux. The code compiles under both environments.

However, the code runs normally under 32b linux, but the 64b linux runtime 
causes an error condition and the sample
code exits.

I have the 32 bit environment loaded under the 64b installation. Yet, there is 
a subtle difference which is causing this problem.

I've checked the shared libs used in each case and they are identical. I cannot 
figure out what is causing this issue?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Vahe




   
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Re: [opensuse] 32b compiled program not running in 64x environment - open SuSE 10.2

2007-08-29 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2007-08-29 15:31:01 -0700, Vahe Avedissian wrote:
 I have open SuSE 10.2 32 and 64 bit installed on the same machine.
 
 I compile a small matlab example under 32b (either by booting 32b
 linux or -m32 compiler flag) and run under 32 and 64 bit linux. The
 code compiles under both environments.
 
 However, the code runs normally under 32b linux, but the 64b linux
 runtime causes an error condition and the sample code exits.
 
 I have the 32 bit environment loaded under the 64b installation. Yet,
 there is a subtle difference which is causing this problem.
 
 I've checked the shared libs used in each case and they are identical.
 I cannot figure out what is causing this issue?
 
 Any help is greatly appreciated!

can you add the error message please. my crystal ball is overheated.

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Re: [opensuse] 32b compiled program not running in 64x environment - open SuSE 10.2

2007-08-29 Thread Vahe Avedissian
Hi Marcus,

I have checked my matlab installation and I can launch standalone matlab under 
both 32 and 64 linux.

The code snippet from Mathworks is: 


   /*
 * Start the MATLAB engine locally by executing the string
 * matlab
 *
 * To start the session on a remote host, use the name of
 * the host as the string rather than \0
 *
 * For more complicated cases, use any string with whitespace,
 * and that string will be executed literally to start MATLAB
 */
if (!(ep = engOpen(\0))) {
fprintf(stderr, \nCan't start MATLAB engine\n);
return EXIT_FAILURE;
}

...


Under 32b linux the program continues and executes sample commands.
Under 64b linux, the return code from engOpen is *not* zero and I get the
can't start matlab engine error.

Thanks again,

Vahe



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From: Marcus Rueckert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:38:51 PM
Subject: Re: [opensuse] 32b compiled program not running in 64x environment -  
open SuSE 10.2

On 2007-08-29 15:31:01 -0700, Vahe Avedissian wrote:
 I have open SuSE 10.2 32 and 64 bit installed on the same machine.
 
 I compile a small matlab example under 32b (either by booting 32b
 linux or -m32 compiler flag) and run under 32 and 64 bit linux. The
 code compiles under both environments.
 
 However, the code runs normally under 32b linux, but the 64b linux
 runtime causes an error condition and the sample code exits.
 
 I have the 32 bit environment loaded under the 64b installation. Yet,
 there is a subtle difference which is causing this problem.
 
 I've checked the shared libs used in each case and they are identical.
 I cannot figure out what is causing this issue?
 
 Any help is greatly appreciated!

can you add the error message please. my crystal ball is overheated.

darix

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[opensuse] OT: Things are getting interesting at Groklaw

2007-08-29 Thread SOTL
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2007082918292633
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Re: [opensuse] OT: Things are getting interesting at Groklaw

2007-08-29 Thread James Knott
SOTL wrote:
 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2007082918292633
   
I find the stories about MS stuffing the ISO ballot box to be more
interesting, such as 37 identical letters sent to the Norwegian
committee.  Or how MS bought so many members on Sweden's committee etc.


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Re: [opensuse] OT: Things are getting interesting at Groklaw

2007-08-29 Thread Michael Skiba
Am Donnerstag, 30. August 2007 03:44 schrieb James Knott:
 SOTL wrote:
  http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2007082918292633

 I find the stories about MS stuffing the ISO ballot box to be more
 interesting, such as 37 identical letters sent to the Norwegian
 committee.  Or how MS bought so many members on Sweden's committee etc.
It's not a secret that they do that, German DIN got sold out too, which makes 
me very sad about my country :(

For some German background infos from heise: 
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/94766
As bizzare and curious describe insiders, while Microsoft welcomes this 
decision
Many of them works directly for Microsoft or for companies which works 
for/with microsoft (not to mention that two of them were from companies that 
develop an Open-XML-Translator for Microsoft). 
At the end only IBM, SUN, the foreign department and the inner department for 
no.IMHO it's especially interesting, that only the parties that are completly 
independent from microsoft voted for no.

The German Telekom and Google, which wanted to participate(and guess what they 
would have voted for..), where cut out :/

Greetings
Michael


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Re: [opensuse] nvidia driver

2007-08-29 Thread steve

joe wrote:

Bob S wrote:
  

Hello SuSE people,

Downloaded the latest nvidia driver last night. (100.14.09) RPMs from the 
Nvidia repo.  Installed OK, but, GLXgears shows only about 2900 FPS. 
Shouldn't it be much faster? I get the nvidia spalsh at bootup amd my 
xorg.conf shows nvidia as the driver.




2900 fps? wow, wish I could get that many. If you were using the plain old
frame  buffer you'd be lucky to get a few hundred FPS on glxgears.

Joe
  
2900 would be great by me..thats more than double what I have !!! 


5802 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1160.341 FPS
5917 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1183.387 FPS
6317 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1263.319 FPS
6513 frames in 5.1 seconds = 1285.175 FPS
6598 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1319.585 FPS



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Re: [opensuse] nvidia driver

2007-08-29 Thread Art Fore
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 23:32 -0400, steve wrote:
 joe wrote:
  Bob S wrote:

  Hello SuSE people,
 
  Downloaded the latest nvidia driver last night. (100.14.09) RPMs from the 
  Nvidia repo.  Installed OK, but, GLXgears shows only about 2900 FPS. 
  Shouldn't it be much faster? I get the nvidia spalsh at bootup amd my 
  xorg.conf shows nvidia as the driver.
  
 
 
  2900 fps? wow, wish I could get that many. If you were using the plain old
  frame  buffer you'd be lucky to get a few hundred FPS on glxgears.
 
  Joe

 2900 would be great by me..thats more than double what I have !!! 
 
 5802 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1160.341 FPS
 5917 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1183.387 FPS
 6317 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1263.319 FPS
 6513 frames in 5.1 seconds = 1285.175 FPS
 6598 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1319.585 FPS
 
 
 
I get about 1500 fps on Dell Latitude D820 with Geforce Go 7300GT (Suse
10.2)

On my AMD64 64 X2 +3200 AGP8, Geforce 7300 GT I get 8800 fps without
Compiz and about 6500 fps with Compiz. (Suse 10.2)

On my AMD64 64 X2 +4600 PCIE X16, Geforce 7300 GT I get 6800 fps without
Compiz and about 4500 fps with Compiz. (Suse 10.3, Beta1) 

These are all with the 100.14.11 driver, but I got about 2% less with
the 9639 driver.

Seems to depend a great deal on the video card interface.

Art

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Re: [opensuse] nvidia driver

2007-08-29 Thread Bob S
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 22:48:36 joe wrote:
 Bob S wrote:
  Hello SuSE people,
 
  Downloaded the latest nvidia driver last night. (100.14.09) RPMs from the
  Nvidia repo.  Installed OK, but, GLXgears shows only about 2900 FPS.
  Shouldn't it be much faster? I get the nvidia spalsh at bootup amd my
  xorg.conf shows nvidia as the driver.

 2900 fps? wow, wish I could get that many. If you were using the plain old
 frame  buffer you'd be lucky to get a few hundred FPS on glxgears.

Well yeah, butthe gears were in that little box. When I go full screen it 
drops to about 200 FPS.  The previous driver used to whip those gears so fast 
you couldn't see the cogs. Don't remember the numbers.

BobS.


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[opensuse-wiki] Wiki Site Layout Suggestion (http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org)

2007-08-29 Thread Christopher Cook
Just a suggestion, http://www.opensuse.org/ got a new layout, which
looks a lot nicer than the old one, and the Get It link there looks
very nice and professional, but shouldn't the wiki site get a new
layout as well? It would be more inviting. I don't know about you
guys, but I always love to see a new layout or design on one of my
favorite sites.
Maybe I'm wrong and it seems nice and new enough? I'm open to any
comments about this. It wouldn't serve much more than a cosmetic
purpose, but it still may be time for an upgrade.

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Wiki Site Layout Suggestion (http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org)

2007-08-29 Thread Rajko M.
On Wednesday 29 August 2007 10:22:20 pm Christopher Cook wrote:
 Just a suggestion, http://www.opensuse.org/ got a new layout, which
 looks a lot nicer than the old one, and the Get It link there looks
 very nice and professional, but shouldn't the wiki site get a new
 layout as well? It would be more inviting. I don't know about you
 guys, but I always love to see a new layout or design on one of my
 favorite sites.
 Maybe I'm wrong and it seems nice and new enough? I'm open to any
 comments about this. It wouldn't serve much more than a cosmetic
 purpose, but it still may be time for an upgrade.

The new layout is planned, but there is a lot more testing that has to be done 
for en.opensuse.org to prevent large scale breakage :-) 

BTW, there is an idea for Frank:
How about to transfer articles to test wiki, and fix them there if necessary? 
It is a lot of work, but also opportunity for cleanup, reorganization etc. 
Than whole wiki can be copied back. 

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