Re: [opensuse-factory] rkhunter 1.3.0
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, David Bolt wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:- snip The 1.3.0 one does not know either unless I patch another stupid 1 liner into its config file to detect 10.3. If you're referring to the os.dat file, it's unused by anything other than check_update.sh. Don't know about 1.3.0, but 1.2.8 does not know the md5sums of openSUSE 10.3: # rkhunter -c --nocolors -sk Rootkit Hunter 1.2.8 is running Determining OS... Unknown Warning: This operating system is not fully supported! Warning: Cannot find md5_not_known All MD5 checks will be skipped! I just tried again, and found that 1.2.8 does not complain about md5 in 10.2 and 10.1. So my original statement about the older releases was wrong. I've been running 1.3.0, from the CVS release in July when I added bug #1713985 to the rkhunter/sourceforge bugzilla[0], and it's been fine on the various systems I've used it on[1][2]. One thing I did need to do after installation, and probably something that should have been added to the %post of the spec is to call rkhunter --propupd to create the rkhunter.dat database. Does this only exist in 1.3.0? 1.2.8 does not know about --propupd : # rkhunter --propupd Fatal: Invalid option --propupd -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] rkhunter 1.3.0
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Andreas Vetter wrote:-
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, David Bolt wrote:
If you're referring to the os.dat file, it's unused by anything other
than check_update.sh.
Looking at the check_update.sh script, I'm not sure why the os.dat file
is still there. It's no longer used by any of the other scripts and even
the update script ignores it. Well, it did when I tried using the
--update option.
Don't know about 1.3.0, but 1.2.8 does not know the md5sums of
openSUSE 10.3:
# rkhunter -c --nocolors -sk
Rootkit Hunter 1.2.8 is running
Determining OS... Unknown
Warning: This operating system is not fully supported!
Warning: Cannot find md5_not_known
All MD5 checks will be skipped!
1.3.0 doesn't know _any_ md5sums. That's the purpose of the --propupd
option. The --propupd option creates the reference file containing the
md5sums, and should be called as soon as possible after the initial
installation.
One thing I did need to do after installation, and probably something
that should have been added to the %post of the spec is to call
rkhunter --propupd to create the rkhunter.dat database.
Does this only exist in 1.3.0? 1.2.8 does not know about --propupd :
# rkhunter --propupd
Fatal: Invalid option --propupd
Yes, it's one of quite a few new options. Here's the --help output for
the 1.3.0 release:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qi rkhunter ; sudo rkhunter --help
Name: rkhunter Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 1.3.0 Vendor: (none)
Release : 1 Build Date: Mon 12 Nov 2007
14:25:58 GMT
Install Date: Wed 21 Nov 2007 16:58:12 GMT Build Host: cobra-mk3.davjam.org
Group : Applications/System Source RPM: rkhunter-1.3.0-1.src.rpm
Size: 747022 License: GPL
Signature : (none)
Packager: David Bolt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL : http://rkhunter.sourceforge.net/
Summary : rkhunter scans for rootkits, backdoors and local exploits
Description :
Rootkit Hunter is a scanning tool to ensure you are about 99.9%
clean of nasty tools. It scans for rootkits, backdoors and local
exploits by running tests like:
- File hash check
- Look for default files used by rootkits
- Wrong file permissions for binaries
- Look for suspected strings in LKM and KLD modules
- Look for hidden files
- Optional scan within plaintext and binary files
- Software version checks
- Application tests
Rootkit Hunter is released as a GPL licensed project and free for everyone to
use.
Distribution: openSUSE 10.3
root's password:
Usage: rkhunter {--check | --update | --propupd | --versioncheck |
--list [tests | languages | rootkits] |
--version | --help} [options]
Current options are:
--append-log Append to the logfile, do not overwrite
--bindir directory... Use the specified command directories
-c, --check Check the local system
--cs2, --color-set2 Use the second color set for output
--configfile file Use the specified configuration file
--cronjob Run as a cron job
(implies -c, --sk and --nocolors options)
--dbdir directory Use the specified database directory
--debug Debug mode
(Do not use unless asked to do so)
--disable test[,test...] Disable specific tests
(Default is to disable no tests)
--display-logfile Display the logfile at the end
--enable test[,test...] Enable specific tests
(Default is to enable all tests)
--hash {MD5 | SHA1 | NONE | Use the specified file hash function
command}(Default is SHA1)
-h, --helpDisplay this help menu, then exit
--lang, --language language Specify the language to use
(Default is English)
--list [tests | languages | List the available test names, languages,
rootkits] or checked for rootkits, then exit
-l, --logfile [file] Write to a logfile
(Default is /var/log/rkhunter.log)
--noappend-logDo not append to the logfile, overwrite
it
--nocolorsUse black and white output
--nolog Do not write to a logfile
--nomow, --no-mail-on-warning Do not send a message if warnings occur
--ns, --nosummary Do not show the summary of check results
--novl, --no-verbose-logging No verbose logging
--pkgmgr {RPM | DPKG | BSD | Use the specified package
Re: [opensuse-factory] rkhunter 1.3.0
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, David Bolt wrote: 1.3.0 doesn't know _any_ md5sums. That's the purpose of the --propupd option. The --propupd option creates the reference file containing the md5sums, and should be called as soon as possible after the initial installation. thank you, I didn't know. And another --propupd after every update of a binary that is scanned by --propupd. So we need to keep track of the rpms that contain such binaries. Then put some code in the postinstall of those rpms (at least coreutils) that checks if rkhunter is installed and if so finally runs rkhunter --propupd. I don't think it should be a SuSEconfig script like the ldconfig thing. This would run too often and could make replaced binaries trusted. -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] rkhunter 1.3.0
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Andreas Vetter wrote:- On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, David Bolt wrote: 1.3.0 doesn't know _any_ md5sums. That's the purpose of the --propupd option. The --propupd option creates the reference file containing the md5sums, and should be called as soon as possible after the initial ^^^ Gah! That should be sha1sums, unless you change the defaults. installation. thank you, I didn't know. And another --propupd after every update of a binary that is scanned by --propupd. That's probably the best way of doing it. So we need to keep track of the rpms that contain such binaries. Yes. Then put some code in the postinstall of those rpms (at least coreutils) that checks if rkhunter is installed and if so finally runs rkhunter --propupd. Except that doing that would/could add a dependency for rkhunter that may no be a good thing. I think the best way would be to add a check to the %post so that rkhunter --propupd is run after the initial installation. Then root can perform a scan to see if any unexpected files have changed and, if not, then run rkhunter --propupd manually. The trouble with that is that it's another thing root has to remember to do after an update. I don't think it should be a SuSEconfig script like the ldconfig thing. This would run too often and could make replaced binaries trusted. The joys of system security :| Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-P2 @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~15Mkeys | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit | openSUSE 10.3 32bit SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit | RISC OS 3.11 | RISC OS 3.6 | TOS 4.02| openSUSE 10.3 PPC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-11-20 at 18:03 +0100, jdd wrote: Sid Boyce wrote: http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/opensuse10.3.review.html Mentions of for the uninitiated sounds about right. To sidestep any problems with the DVD, I've installed from Factory. Looks like the DVD should have been delayed until it was compared with Factory for stability. I think the reviewer attempted to be fair (he points to the URL to show where he is coming from). Perhaps some pertinent pointers for 11.0. Regards Sid. always the same garbage... the author say that he wouldn't give openSUSE to a newcommer, but he try the install on a very special machine (grub on the root partition, and he wonder why he can't reboot without editing the original grub!!!), and when going to console he tries to use mandriva tools and don't know yast is at hand. so one people that wants to make all special by himself and wonder why openSUSE don't do this automatically. May I say no distribution can do? and on my own laptop, mandriva installs worst than openSUSE (what means little) I don't find the review that bad. I know how to have solved/avoided some of the problems he had, but simply because I'm an experienced suse user. I would have probably similar problems switching to any other distro. No big deal. About those grub problems... he admits his setup is special (as special as mine). A small modification would have solved those problems - just that I know why, and he didn't. He probably didn't know his way about yast enough to twiddle initial grub config. Yast during the first install allows almost everything, and this, which I like, is probably confusing to a newcomer. It's just a problem of knowing The SuSE Way of Things :-P Multimedia? He didn't know/discover about the one click install of multimedia (xine et al), and for that we can not blame him, as it is not advertised in big letters. We know of better links with better info than some of those he used. It is not garbage. We are convinced suse users. He, they, are not. If we want to bring people to our side, we have to pave the way for them; and reading about the difficulties a new user finds, is a good way to know which edges in our distro could be ironed out. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHRkjhtTMYHG2NR9URAq9iAJ0W2xEmtcp40av3dQZclYe5rUULIgCfd3+O ah4thK/DWpks1bSyCBVW2I8= =neUE -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-11-20 at 18:03 +0100, jdd wrote: Sid Boyce wrote: http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/opensuse10.3.review.html Mentions of for the uninitiated sounds about right. To sidestep any problems with the DVD, I've installed from Factory. Looks like the DVD should have been delayed until it was compared with Factory for stability. I think the reviewer attempted to be fair (he points to the URL to show where he is coming from). Perhaps some pertinent pointers for 11.0. Regards Sid. always the same garbage... the author say that he wouldn't give openSUSE to a newcommer, but he try the install on a very special machine (grub on the root partition, and he wonder why he can't reboot without editing the original grub!!!), and when going to console he tries to use mandriva tools and don't know yast is at hand. so one people that wants to make all special by himself and wonder why openSUSE don't do this automatically. May I say no distribution can do? and on my own laptop, mandriva installs worst than openSUSE (what means little) I don't find the review that bad. I know how to have solved/avoided some of the problems he had, but simply because I'm an experienced suse user. I would have probably similar problems switching to any other distro. No big deal. About those grub problems... he admits his setup is special (as special as mine). A small modification would have solved those problems - just that I know why, and he didn't. He probably didn't know his way about yast enough to twiddle initial grub config. Yast during the first install allows almost everything, and this, which I like, is probably confusing to a newcomer. It's just a problem of knowing The SuSE Way of Things :-P Multimedia? He didn't know/discover about the one click install of multimedia (xine et al), and for that we can not blame him, as it is not advertised in big letters. We know of better links with better info than some of those he used. It is not garbage. We are convinced suse users. He, they, are not. If we want to bring people to our side, we have to pave the way for them; and reading about the difficulties a new user finds, is a good way to know which edges in our distro could be ironed out. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. The only distros I had a problem with at first were Kubuntu and freespire, it's that root thing for which I still can't see the logic of having to do sudo su or su and entering the user password. The grub problem would have been exactly the same installing Mandriva which is his normal distro, so he screwed up, period. A quick search on google will point to packman for the multimedia stuff, though most of it comes in Mandriva as standard. Even for seasoned users KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) rules, so such experiences should be educational in getting the best product out there for all comers. Pity the Unofficial SUSEFAQ isn't still maintained - when it was, updates were always on freshmeat, but there is a wealth of stuff in the archives and the wiki to rival any other distro. The difference is that unlike Ubuntu which puts out lots of articles on how to do just about anything under Ubuntu (useful to openSUSE also), we don't get out much these days. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Configuring GRUB and using KDE fonts in Open Office (openSUSE 10.3)
Hi All: Please help a first-timer: 1) I've installed openSUSE 10.3 alongside WinXP. Can I increase the time the GRUB loader takes before it automatically loads openSUSE? Or, can I change the GRUB loader to wait or beep for input before deciding which operating sytem to load? 2) In openSUSE 10.3, I like the Schumacher Clean font which is available as a font in the KDE. How can I get Open Office 2.3 to see this font so that I can use it in Calc and Writer? I find the fonts provided by Open Office a bit blurry/hazy. I have an LG Flatron L1552S LCD monitor and do not use a white background but a light grey or teal background to avoid eye-strain. If anyone can help, please do so in beginner's language! AE Souza November 22. 2007 Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
The only gripe I have with Ubuntu is a tool like Yast, and Sax. Those two would be high on my wish list. They are working on that but their solution is nowhere near as good or as slick as YAST. Ubuntu also does some odd things with where some things end up. Like the web server ends up placing everything in /var/www instead of /srv/www (maybe that is just my familiarity with SUSE's oddities there though). When people ask me, I usually say that if they want a simple desktop, Ubuntu works fine. If they want to run a MySQL database, run a webserver etc etc in addition to the desktop, then openSUSE wins by a few light years despite it's warty bits. :-) The article that started this thread makes a lot of really good points. While a lot of the problems the author got himself into were a product of his own tinkering, those problems are very real. I see a lot of the same kinds of dufficulties when I am helping newbie users install their very first openSUSE. I don't run into those problems (or at least am not so bothered by them) because I have been using SUSE since 6.0. I'm used to the warts. I do hope that the comments made in the article are taken to heart and at least some of the problems attended to in the next release or two. Some of those problems have been around since forever. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] migrating imap dovecot to cyrus
El dc 21 de 11 del 2007 a les 14:45 +, en/na Kevin Thorpe va escriure: Marcus Rueckert wrote: On 2007-11-21 10:54:45 +0100, Jordi Massaguer wrote: I am trying to migrate an imap dovecot-fedora server to an imap cyrus-suse. However, I do not know how to migrate the current emails and folders. Could anyone point me to somewhere where to find more information? Does anyone knows about tools for doing that? I moved from cyrus to Scalix (Exchange replacement) using a tool called imapsync. Best part is that it's intelligent and only copies messages that aren't already present. That means you can do it on the live mailstore and have a relatively quick redo when the mailstore is disconnected. That is what I was looking for! It looks like dovecot has the folders at the same hierarchy as the INBOX, so at the root level, and Cyrus has it at the INBOX level. For example: in Dovecot: INBOX opensuse in Cyrus: INBOX |--opensuse so what we tried (and worked quite well) is using the options --prefix2 INBOX/ --exclude INBOX for the folders. Just to mention it here if someone has the same problem. greetings Kevin Thorpe, Purchasing Index (UK) Ltd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SAMBA options definitions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bryen wrote: On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 07:45 +0800, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: On 11/22/2007 07:31 AM, Bryen wrote: When using YaST2 to configure Samba shares, there are many many options available. Where can I get just a simple list of definitions for each option? Man samba or smb.conf doesn't offer a complete listing. I would suggest installing (if it isn't) samba-doc for the documentation, and the easiest way to get the details for each setting is to use swat, i.e. enable it in xinted and point a browser to http://localhost:901 -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.3 x86_64 Still not what I'm looking for, although some of the options listed in YaST can be found scattered about in the documentation. I just need a simple quick list reference of what each option is, not hunting all over the documents to find that option. Use swat... Each option is inked into the html documentation on the configuration screen...really handy man swat.. for details... Avoid Yast, I find it tends to mangle samba configurations if you move away from the really simple... - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHRUcJasN0sSnLmgIRAh+gAJ9dSLosqtvDh56IZ3hjNZq40+DLvwCfQBx/ TEJpwUgorLopS8YAw1GCJis= =8FNu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Configuring GRUB and using KDE fonts in Open Office (openSUSE 10.3)
Hi On Nov 22, 2007 10:16 AM, Tony D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) I've installed openSUSE 10.3 alongside WinXP. Can I increase the time the GRUB loader takes before it automatically loads openSUSE? Or, can I change the GRUB loader to wait or beep for input before deciding which operating sytem to load? For this one use Yast - Boot Loader-Boot Loader Installation -Boot Loader Options. There is a field Timeout in Seconds. Or as a root edit /boot/grub/menu.lst. There is a line timeout. Put there the value you like. -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] addresses
On Thursday 22 November 2007, Doug McGarrett said: ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc Is what Jan meant, the rest of it indicated where in the file to look. That file has been in that place for kmail users since at least suse 6.4 :). Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] migrating imap dovecot to cyrus
Jordi Massaguer wrote: That is what I was looking for! It looks like dovecot has the folders at the same hierarchy as the INBOX, so at the root level, and Cyrus has it at the INBOX level. For example: in Dovecot: INBOX opensuse in Cyrus: INBOX |--opensuse so what we tried (and worked quite well) is using the options --prefix2 INBOX/ --exclude INBOX Careful! Cyrus is not using Maildir, even if it looks like it at first glance. If you simply copy all the folders on the system level you need to reconstruct the mailbox in cyradm after copy, so that Cyrus can rebuild the database for the folder. This should also take care to add the copied subfolders to the mailboxes.db. -- Sandy List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Configuring GRUB and using KDE fonts in Open Office (openSUSE 10.3)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Tony D'Souza wrote: Please help a first-timer: 1) I've installed openSUSE 10.3 alongside WinXP. Can I increase the time the GRUB loader takes before it automatically loads openSUSE? Yes: boot Linux and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst as the root user. The timeout variable defined how long Grub waits to boot the menu entry indicated by the default variable. Or, can I change the GRUB loader to wait or beep for input before deciding which operating sytem to load? I don't think that beeping is possible, but you can of course set the timeout to a very high value, so it will sit there and wait for your input. 2) In openSUSE 10.3, I like the Schumacher Clean font which is available as a font in the KDE. How can I get Open Office 2.3 to see this font so that I can use it in Calc and Writer? I find the fonts provided by Open Office a bit blurry/hazy. I have an LG Flatron L1552S LCD monitor and do not use a white background but a light grey or teal background to avoid eye-strain. Not sure about this one. If the font is available to KDE, it should also appear in the font selection list of OOo. Bye, LenZ - -- - -- Lenz Grimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -o) [ICQ: 160767607 | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/\\ http://www.lenzg.org/ V_V -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHRVU0SVDhKrJykfIRAp5VAJ4gaFy9VF4+dbcA1DH8yg7+QaomiQCfV4fu GKYiWE3A+GAgwSJvnXHRwA4= =nNTA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, it's rare that I am soliciting this list for help, but maybe someone could share his experiences with me. I have browsed the hardware compatibility list at http://www.sane-project.org/sane-backends.html to find a suitable USB scanner model. However, it seems as if most of the models listed on there are no longer available (except as used devices on eBay). Does anybody have a recommendation for a flatbed scanner, connected via USB2 that works flawlessly with Linux (openSUSE 10.3 in particular) and is still on sale (especially in Europe/Germany)? Thanks in advance for your suggestions! Bye, LenZ - -- - -- Lenz Grimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -o) [ICQ: 160767607 | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/\\ http://www.lenzg.org/ V_V -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHRVahSVDhKrJykfIRAp7IAJ9ZtKJ2nCVN830NwfHsOffuwJapLwCfUeiu 2WHSV24zB4BRawqGu4W2OuY= =/SSZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: nVidia GeForce 8500GT not active at boot after nvidia-xconfig tweak
Denis Brown wrote: Dear List Members, openSuSE 10.3 on x86_64 system with Intel Core2Duo CPU and nVidia GeForce 8500GT video card and ASUS P5K motherboard. Forgive the long post but I figure it will save time in the long run if I give as much info as possible at day one. Installation went well from downloaded and burned DVD iso. Updates not a problem. But 3D not enabled and I wanted to implement Xgl and Compix for use with medical imaging software - this will be a scientific workstation machine. Information on http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA suggested a one click approach to installing the new nVidia driver which theoretically activates 3D, allows Xgl and so forth. The one click method appeared to work correctly - no error messages. Subsequent instructions said to run nvidia-xconfig with some options. With each of the three invocations the xorg.conf file was overwritten - I expected this would be the case. There was one instance of screen went black and evidently lost synch during this process - IIRC it was during the first of the nvidia-xconfig operations but I could be wrong. That was the only unexpected event. So far no error messages or other abnormal behaviour. However upon logout and logon again, as per instructions, there was no video output from the nVidia card! SSH'ed into the machine and restored xorg.conf from a backup copy, restarted the X system (ctrl-alt-backspace) and had video again. Attempted to use sax2 to sort things out but similar results - had to SSH in again and rescue the system. And I still do not have 3D, nor can I get info out of glxinfo - claims the display 0:0 does not exist. Consequently things like glxgears do not run. At this point a cold boot. Disturbingly during the POST there was *no* video on screen. The card and monitor have dual (analogue and digital) connections but video did not appear on either. Once the POST was over and Linux took over things, I get the log-on screen. Subsequent cold starts repeat this behaviour - it is as if the video card has had a personality change and now only works in conjunction with the Linux OS and the nVidia drivers... it no longer functions stand alone with just the motherboard BIOS. I assume the on-board firmware has been tweaked by the actions of X, sax2 and/or nvidia-xconfig such that it is now reliant on the Linux environment.If so, is there a way forward which will allow the card to return to its native state from whence I can start afresh? I have seen reference on the web to others' experiences with nVidia and openSuSE which suggests that the one click method is sometimes inappropriate - for non-specific reasons. I am happy to use the long method such as running the nVidia installer in init3 mode (non graphical) and withstand the pain of Linux kernel upgrades if that in fact solves the problem :-) Your help and patience are appreciated! Kind regards, Denis Hi Denis, I experienced a very similar behaviour with a motherboard that had integrated graphics where I wanted to use an older nvidia board. So as the P5K surely does not have integrated graphics, by chance do you happen to have another graphics board inside your computer? Yesterday I installed an Nvidia 8600GT inside an Asus P5KR Board with the hard way installer/init 3 installation of the nvidia drivers. No problems like that so far. Kind regards Eberhard Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 usable?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Binner schreef: On Thursday 22 November 2007 03:53:58 Rajko M. wrote: The problem with alpha, beta naming is real. People are afraid to install test versions. You don't fix that by calling something Release Candidate. Why not just continue to have 2 or 3 months Betas? Bye, Steve Sounds sane no? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-31-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) KDE: 3.5.8 release 21.2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHRVZ+X5/X5X6LpDgRAnNxAKCnKQCMlVj8J6No1UJXnhpBkz8RiACffxMS 5ngJCpggXYBLXaQshJ9EzGE= =27LH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?
Torsdag 22 november 2007 11:14 skrev Lenz Grimmer: Hi, it's rare that I am soliciting this list for help, but maybe someone could share his experiences with me. I have browsed the hardware compatibility list at http://www.sane-project.org/sane-backends.html to find a suitable USB scanner model. However, it seems as if most of the models listed on there are no longer available (except as used devices on eBay). Does anybody have a recommendation for a flatbed scanner, connected via USB2 that works flawlessly with Linux (openSUSE 10.3 in particular) and is still on sale (especially in Europe/Germany)? Thanks in advance for your suggestions! Bye, LenZ -- -- Lenz Grimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -o) [ICQ: 160767607 | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/\\ http://www.lenzg.org/ V_V I'm quite happy with my EPSON V700 for which I use vuescan. -- - Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] good notebook
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jack Malone I'm needing to spend money this week on a notebook. I'm planning on running both opensuse an SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop it. Can someone here running Linux on a new laptop care to share what model you have. I'm trying to spend the money while I have the permission to spend an need to buy before end of week. Linux on Laptops maintains reports of linux compatibility for a wide variety of laptops: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com I have recently installed openSuse on several Dell notebooks -- an Inspiron 1501, a 1505, and a Precision M90. They all work well with openSuse 10.2/10.3 out of the box. The Precision M90 is older hardware and worked particularly well: http://www.kenjennings.cc/m90/M90_openSuse_10_2.html Does your comment apply also to getting wifi to work? Don Henson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] midnight crashes (10.3 on IBM x3455)
Dear All, I am trying to get to the bottom of a problem with running 10.3 on IBM x3455 servers (2x dual core opteron). The machines crash without fail, exactly on midnight if the hardware and system clocks are synchronised. They also crash less predictably when the hardware clock reaches midnight. The crashes are so swift and complete that nothing gets written to the system, BIOS or BMC logs. If any of you have seen a similar fault, I'd like to hear from you and compare notes. And I'll summarise the outcome here for everybody's benefit. Cheers, Anna -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?]
Torsdag 22 november 2007 11:14 skrev Lenz Grimmer: Hi, it's rare that I am soliciting this list for help, but maybe someone could share his experiences with me. I have browsed the hardware compatibility list at http://www.sane-project.org/sane-backends.html to find a suitable USB scanner model. However, it seems as if most of the models listed on there are no longer available (except as used devices on eBay). Does anybody have a recommendation for a flatbed scanner, connected via USB2 that works flawlessly with Linux (openSUSE 10.3 in particular) and is still on sale (especially in Europe/Germany)? Most Epson scanners and printers work. I use the Perfection V100 Photo Scanner with the C1100 colour laser with the avasys drivers quite successfully on OpenSUSE 10.3. The V100 is available at Media-Markt and Amazon.de. The price (incl. transport) at Amazon.de is about the same as Media-Markt. RPM Drivers at: http://www.avasys.jp/english/linux_e/dl_scan.html :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] midnight crashes (10.3 on IBM x3455)
Anna Langley wrote: The crashes are so swift and complete that nothing gets written to the system, BIOS or BMC logs. Set kernel logging to be sent to a serial port and attach another device (terminal, PC etc) to record what it sees there. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: nVidia GeForce 8500GT not active at boot after nvidia-xconfig tweak
At 07:24 PM 22/11/2007, Eberhard Roloff wrote: Denis Brown wrote: Dear List Members, openSuSE 10.3 on x86_64 system with Intel Core2Duo CPU and nVidia GeForce 8500GT video card and ASUS P5K motherboard. Forgive the long snip Your help and patience are appreciated! Kind regards, Denis Hi Denis, I experienced a very similar behaviour with a motherboard that had integrated graphics where I wanted to use an older nvidia board. So as the P5K surely does not have integrated graphics, by chance do you happen to have another graphics board inside your computer? Yesterday I installed an Nvidia 8600GT inside an Asus P5KR Board with the hard way installer/init 3 installation of the nvidia drivers. No problems like that so far. Thanks Eberhard. At present there is only the one video card, the 8500. Tomorrow I will replace it temporarily with a 7800GT to test my theory that the card has somehow been reprogrammed. If so, the question remains as to how to un-reprogram it :-) Nice to know that the hard way (which I have used in other Linux + nVidia instances) works well. Kind regards, Denis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] good notebook
On Thursday 2007-11-22 06:43, Donald D Henson wrote: ken_jennings wrote: [...] Linux on Laptops maintains reports of linux compatibility for a wide variety of laptops: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com I have recently installed openSuse on several Dell notebooks -- an Inspiron 1501, a 1505, and a Precision M90. They all work well with openSuse 10.2/10.3 out of the box. The Precision M90 is older hardware and worked particularly well: http://www.kenjennings.cc/m90/M90_openSuse_10_2.html Does your comment apply also to getting wifi to work? Yup. The details are on the web page. The install saw the wifi hardware and went through the config. I only had to enter the SSID and key and it worked. I didn't have to rebuild any modules. (And this is a 64-bit install, too). The Wifi is started as eth1 on demand by KNetwork Manager when I log in. The wired ethernet eth0 overrides it when it is plugged in, because they are using the same route to the internet through the router. Both interface addresses/routes are configured by the router with DHCP. It was so simple it was scary. Thanks, Ken. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?]
Hello, On Nov 22 12:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (shortened): RPM Drivers at: http://www.avasys.jp/english/linux_e/dl_scan.html Why don't you use our RPMs of their software? I keep them as up-to-date as possible (i.e. I check in the current version a short time before package version freeze). I provide their proprietary stuff in the packages iscan, iscan-proprietary-drivers, and iscan-firmware. Additionally I provide their free software in the package iscan-free so that it works natively on 64-bit systems for those scanners which don't need their proprietary binary-only i386-only modules. For details read the RPM package infos. Regarding scanner recommendation: I cannot recommend a particular model but I would avoid any scanner which requires firmware upload and/or which requires a proprietary binary-only i386-only module from iscan-proprietary-drivers. I think the simplest way to check which scanner is supported to which extent by the packages which we provide in a particular product, run the YaST scanner setup, read the comments in its model list, and fake to set up the model which you intend to buy. In case of known possible problems, the YaST scanner setup shows a popup message. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?
Hello, On Nov 22 11:14 Lenz Grimmer wrote (shortened): ... a flatbed scanner, connected via USB2 that works flawlessly From time to time I notice a problem report regarding USB2 for this or that particular scanner / user / computer / openSUSE version so that it seems there are no general USB2-problems except the usual USB-crap related issues. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 usable?
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 10:31:25 pm Stephan Binner wrote: On Thursday 22 November 2007 03:53:58 Rajko M. wrote: The problem with alpha, beta naming is real. People are afraid to install test versions. You don't fix that by calling something Release Candidate. People fears can be fixed, or created with words, that is fact of life. In this particlar case fears are associated to words and uncertainty what they mean. There is no real definition of alpha, beta and RC in openSUSE ie. what developers can and will change in each of stages. It is plain counter productive to test stuff that can break system in Beta stage, and absolutely not good in RC stage. That kind of problems should be solved during Alpha. Having blocker in RC should never happen, unless blocker is consdiered important application (OpenOffice) crash. The effect of blockers in late testing stage we can see now when people don't start massive downloads before GM. Next iteration will be that most of users will wait for remastered media, and after that fails there will be no more users. If somebody think that it will go in different way let me know what observation are used to get to such conslusion. Mine is based on perceived load on servers, users questions and statements in miscellaneous 'suse' related communication media, so not quite accurate. In the case of 10.3, the Beta releases were imho usable. Most major problems were reported and fixed. Sadly some people started to test only when it was in Release Candidate state (note the difference to just calling it that) and expected new reports to get fixed when only blocker fixes were allowed. Sincerely I had lesser problems with Alphas than later. When RC allows only blocker fixes, instead of polishing product, then development process seems to be upside down. In the case of KDE 4.0, nobody tested/used it as daily desktop environment (in opposite to runing a single application) during the Beta releases. One observation was that people who participated in the KDE2 or KDE3 beta testing completely missed the KDE4 beta cycle (because it was as desktop environment unusable until recently). Why not just continue to have 2 or 3 months Betas? Unusable desktop is a problem, but problem is also calling KDE4 RC and than later explaining that base technology and desktop are not at the same development level. For me and proably another 99% of users KDE and KDE4 is a single item. I can't use base technology without desktop, and explanation helps me to stop complaining, but still whole is not in better shape than worse of 2. One major problem for me as a user is that I know about KDE very little comparing to X, kernel and some other stuff. It was just working all the time and now when I have trouble even to start KDE4 session, I'm in the middle of nowhere. Looking on KDE4 site I can't find instructions how it starts and how components interact, and I can't experiment on component level. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?]]
Hello, On Nov 22 12:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (shortened): RPM Drivers at: http://www.avasys.jp/english/linux_e/dl_scan.html * Why don't you use our RPMs of their software? * I keep them as up-to-date as possible (i.e. I check in the * current version a short time before package version freeze). * I provide their proprietary stuff in the packages * iscan, iscan-proprietary-drivers, and iscan-firmware. * Additionally I provide their free software in the package * iscan-free so that it works natively on 64-bit systems * for those scanners which don't need their proprietary * binary-only i386-only modules. * For details read the RPM package infos. Thanx a lot Johannes. I used their drivers in previous OpenSUSE versions, because none were then available and did not know of the OpenSUSE RPM's (iscan, iscan-proprietary and iscan-firmware) My next system is a 64 bit, then I will use your RPM's. Great work. I will replace their RPM's with yours. :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Reading SDP memory data
2007/11/21, Ciro Iriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, looking at this topic found a Windows app (http://www.techpowerup.com/spdtool/) that can query/modify this data but can't find a way to query it on linux, hwinfo doesn't have that info and can't find anything alike on /proc. Comments? Ciro Anyone? Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] nvidia gigabit network card
I should probably add the fact the motherboard has a nvidia chipset -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] GA-m61p-s3 motherboard with built-in network card issues
During the install opensuse found the network card and used forcedeth drivers. However once the install is done I have no network card configuration. Do I need to recompile forcedeth in the kernel? -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Kmail transfer from 10.2 to 10.3
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 07:16:00 Carl Hartung wrote: On Tue November 20 2007 03:58:09 pm Jan Ritzerfeld wrote: I did this two weeks ago. snip Thanks for the excellent 'refresher course', Jan. Definitely a keeper. I guess it's been so long since my last KMail upgrade that I'd forgotten these items needed attention. Thanks all. This is a thread to keep for next Sue or KDE(?) version. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Updater problem
James Knott wrote: I recently experienced the problem mentioned in another thread about a problem with the updater displaying the error message 2 Problems: Problem: No valid solution found with just resolvables..., that occurs with the Sun Java updates. I checked that thread in the archives and didn't see a fix for this problem. Is there one? I'm running 64 bit 10.3. tnx jk I still can't get rid of it... and it's pretty annoying. Something is with java_sun_plugin. I even tried to uninstall it, but then lot's of dependencies... I see new updates are available every 5 minutes, and they fail... that's killing. Sergey -- Sergey Mkrtchyan, PhD Student @ Department of Physics Astronomy, Faculty of Science, University of Waterloo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] NFS misconfig problem w/files 2GB
Linda Walsh wrote: I'm exporting some files (10GB files) via NFS from a 2.6.23.1-kernel, SuSE system, and mounting on another (same kernel). All of my files 2GB (not exactly sure if break point is at 2 or 4GB's, all the large files I look at on the source are over 20G) give stat errors over NFS. Both kernels have nfs v4 as well as v3 compiled in. I've heard v2 has a 2GB limit, but v3 should be fine. Have been playing with tags 'nfsvers=[3 or 4]' in the /etc/exports file, but exports doesn't recognize nfsver=4, and gives out of range error message on nfsver=3 saying allowed values are Min=1, Max=2. !? I'm not sure if it is using V3 or 4 (am trying to use 'tcp' tag as well, but not using the tcp isn't the prob, as that was the default before I started looking at this problem. I don't have problems over CIFS from a windows box, but so far, limited benchmarks show better linux-to-linux perf over NFS (assuming I stay under 2GB files, but that's sorta limiting...). Underlying filesystem on the server box is XFS -- been serving Win clients for years, so haven't had alot of experience using NFS, recently, since 2G files became fairly common place. Any ideas how I could be serving up NFS and not 2GB files with a modern kernel and client? *scratching head* ;^? which NFS deamon (nfsd) are you running? also, man 8 exportfs there might be something there that helps. Sorry I can't be more specific, because don't have the means to replicate your situation at the current time. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Updater problem
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 01:14:25PM -0500, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: James Knott wrote: I recently experienced the problem mentioned in another thread about a problem with the updater displaying the error message 2 Problems: Problem: No valid solution found with just resolvables..., that occurs with the Sun Java updates. I checked that thread in the archives and didn't see a fix for this problem. Is there one? I'm running 64 bit 10.3. tnx jk I still can't get rid of it... and it's pretty annoying. Something is with java_sun_plugin. I even tried to uninstall it, but then lot's of dependencies... I see new updates are available every 5 minutes, and they fail... that's killing. Did you open a bugreport? Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Updater problem
Marcus Meissner wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 01:14:25PM -0500, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: I still can't get rid of it... and it's pretty annoying. Something is with java_sun_plugin. I even tried to uninstall it, but then lot's of dependencies... I see new updates are available every 5 minutes, and they fail... that's killing. Did you open a bugreport? Ciao, Marcus Well, it'll be first bugreport I do, and I'm kind of scared ;) Ok, I'll figure out how to do that now. Sergey -- Sergey Mkrtchyan, PhD Student @ Department of Physics Astronomy, Faculty of Science, University of Waterloo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Updater problem
Marcus Meissner wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 01:14:25PM -0500, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote: Did you open a bugreport? Ciao, Marcus Well, it appears that there is a bugreport about this already. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343094 -- Sergey Mkrtchyan, PhD Student @ Department of Physics Astronomy, Faculty of Science, University of Waterloo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GA-m61p-s3 motherboard with built-in network card issues
Seems my original reply was not sent to the list. I have added the list to ths message. On 22/11/2007, Michael S. Dunsavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I wrote: On 22/11/2007, Michael S. Dunsavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During the install opensuse found the network card and used forcedeth drivers. However once the install is done I have no network card configuration. Do I need to recompile forcedeth in the kernel? No. You need to configure the interface. This is done thru yast. ...uh...how can I configure an interface when the card can't be found? I am going to have to reboot into 10.3. While I am doing that, please post the output of /sbin/lspci | grep therne . I also need you to check the output of /sbin/lsmod for forcedeth and I need the contents of /etc/modprobe.conf. I need to know what is listed for any eth you may have in there. ne... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Certified: 75% bastard, 42% of which is tard. http://www.thespark.com/bastardtest Now accepting personal mail for GMail invites. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?
On Thursday 22 November 2007, Lenz Grimmer wrote: Does anybody have a recommendation for a flatbed scanner, connected via USB2 that works flawlessly with Linux (openSUSE 10.3 in particular) and is still on sale (especially in Europe/Germany)? Almost anything from HP will be supported, except their very cheapest models which cut a few corners. They're the gold standard for manufacturer based printer scanner support under linux. Epson reportedly also has fairly good support. John. -- Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:[opensuse] GA-m61p-s3 motherboard with built-in network card issues
Not sure whether you saw this. Was sent to me by Shuai Yu. you should use hwinfo --netcard to see if the module for card is active. hwinfo also shows you the command to active the card. From there I think Yast sould work. On 11/22/07, ne... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems my original reply was not sent to the list. I have added the list to ths message. On 22/11/2007, Michael S. Dunsavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I wrote: On 22/11/2007, Michael S. Dunsavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During the install opensuse found the network card and used forcedeth drivers. However once the install is done I have no network card configuration. Do I need to recompile forcedeth in the kernel? No. You need to configure the interface. This is done thru yast. ...uh...how can I configure an interface when the card can't be found? I am going to have to reboot into 10.3. While I am doing that, please post the output of /sbin/lspci | grep therne . I also need you to check the output of /sbin/lsmod for forcedeth and I need the contents of /etc/modprobe.conf. I need to know what is listed for any eth you may have in there. -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Certified: 75% bastard, 42% of which is tard. http://www.thespark.com/bastardtest Now accepting personal mail for GMail invites. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
jdd wrote: Richard Creighton wrote: Balderdash!Are you saying that because he is experienced and that he has other distros or OS's on his system that he can't write an objective review he can't say I don't recommand this for a beginner, because a beginner won't have 4 linuxes on his machine. jdd, I just thought I'd enclose a direct E-Mail from the person that wrote the review. I think it explains or addresses the issues you raised fairly well. At least, I think it amplifies some of the points you questioned in some of your earlier posts. Quote: Dear Richard, you don't know me, but you've read my work at: http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/opensuse10.3.review.html I've found your comments in this thread: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/SuSE/2007-11/msg02200.html If those are not your comments, please forgive me; it's not easy to retrieve the proper email address... but please do let me know if I messed up! Since the opensuse list mentions over 100 mails per day, I don't feel inclined to subscribe, so I'll just mention the following to you directly, mostly related to the tangle of words in that thread with jdd, who jumps to conclusions several times, even though I thought my review was actually clear enough to the contrary. Guess not. Neither he nor I am native English speakers though. So this kind of misunderstanding can happen. First: thanks for the positive feedback. I'm quite used to getting flamed after mentioning negative points, and it's more rare to get praise. Now on to the points I'd like to make: 1) the installation was definitely fully fresh. The subsection named 'installation' mentions the word 'installation' about 10 times explicitly, and nowhere is the word update or upgrade used in that section, and where used elsewhere it's clear from the context that it's only related to software packages for the openSUSE 10.3 This explains why I was seriously delighted that openSUSE could actually pick up the users from my other systems, including passwords! and also the systems in the bootloader. If it were an upgrade, I would have expected no less. BTW it seems the user data and boot info is taken from the partition on which one installs (from the comments in the above thread), which held a Mandriva 2007.0 installation before with LILO. Colour me even more impressed that openSUSE can manage that! 2) the problems with booting and rebooting were to do with a faulty grub in the root partition, and with my ignorance about whether I should relaunch the installation from dvd or start the half installed and unconfigured system. My only point there was that I would have liked to have some more information than just now it's time to reboot. I do not blame the faulty grub in the root partition on SUSE, and I'm not sure if this is repeatable, and or a problem with the partitioning of my drive. Note that I intended to use chainloading from the GRUB in the MBR, which I also use to start 2 of the other systems - the GRUB in the mbr is the one from the latest Mandriva 2008.0 installation. 3) the reason my other system is not mentioned is that from the 3 other partitions, all are Mandriva: 64 and 32 bit 2007.1 and 64 bit 2008.0. I tried and managed to keep the whole name Mandriva out of the text of the review. It's not a comparative review, it's a review that looks at things in their own right. The comparative review is still coming. Otherwise, I have two swap partitions and a /home partition - which I didn't use in the openSUSE installation, it was truly and completely _fresh_ and standalone. I count on wiping it. And yes, I do count on giving openSUSE 11 a try in about 5 months. 4) sax2 clearly used settings for the i810 driver for the setup with the default intel graphics driver; I've found out this causes problems only with laptop screens, and maybe only those of 1280x800 resolution - so quite a few less systems than one could think when Intel GMA950 / 945GM is mentioned. Essentially, the modeline of sax2 works with i810 and not with intel - where it's actually perfectly fine (at least in my case) to omit any timing and modelines. 5) the locking of the system is caused by issues with the TSST drive in my system, with the older ata driver there's no problem, with the new libata driver there is this issue - also seen on gentoo, ubuntu and other systems. My Mandriva 2008.0 is fine since they stuck with the old driver, because they _knew_ the new one was problematic. My guess: they knew from: gentoo, ubuntu and openSUSE 10.3... 6) by the way, the hardware I used and which I bought as 'Novell Certified' is a transtec branded MSI Megabook s262 Intel Core 2 Duo Intel GMA950/945GM 3945ABG 12 laptop. The main points: Intel Core 2 Duo, gma950 and ipw3945 are mentioned. I didn't know that the drive was a TSST at all at that point - never cared to check, only came upon this due to the
[opensuse] CD titles artist how to?
I made a wav files of vinyl records. Then I burned those wav using k3b. I fill the spaces for artist title etc. When I play it I only see track 1, track 2 etc. I have been searching in how this info is contained I have not find any useful information. Q: how do you write the track info so it can be display in a cd player TIA -=terry=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Reading SDP memory data
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 10:35, Ciro Iriarte wrote: Hi, looking at this topic found a Windows app (http://www.techpowerup.com/spdtool/) that can query/modify this data but can't find a way to query it on linux, hwinfo doesn't have that info and can't find anything alike on /proc. Lots of info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Presence_Detect -- jim barnes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kmid not playing sound
Will Stephenson wrote: On Saturday 17 November 2007, Ken Schneider said: I finally got this going last night. Much thanks to Ed and Rajko for your help. I tried adding the command to my .profile and it made my login hang. So for now I will just run the command by hand when needed. kmid is basically unmaintained these days. If you want to have .mid playing functionality in KDE, would you guys consider starting to maintain it? Will Hi Will, Never thought of myself as capable of maintaining an app. What sort of knowledge would this require? I'm a long way from being a developer. -ED- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Mysql problem.
Mahmoud Mohammad Abdelsalam wrote: Hallo all, i have a big problem here with my server, after i upgraded mysql from 4 to 5, i found that there are two pid files in /var/lib/mysql which mean i have two mysql servers, Not necessarily. If MySQL5 uses a slightly different filename, then two pid files is to be expected -- if I remember correctly, mysqld overwrites the previous pid file. If MySQL5 is creating a pid file with a different name, then the old MySQL4 pid file will still be there, because I don't believe that mysqld cleans up the pid file. [I could be wrong on that...it's been over a 20 months since I last played with mysql] and mysql is failing at startup with error regarding the .sock file, please help. Have you tried starting mysqld from a command line? Regards, Mahmoud Abdelsalam. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-11-20 at 20:01 +0100, jdd wrote: I *never* make an upgrade, and this with any distro (I tried many, specially mandrake or debian for years) because there are always a lot of problems. And I *always* make an upgrade. This machine has been upgraded from 7.3 up to 10.3 with only one interruption in the flowchain. As a matter of fact, the 10.2 -- 10.3 upgrade was the smoother of them all, and the 7.3 -- 8.1 the worst. But the reviewer did a fresh install - as any reviewer should do. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHRkEotTMYHG2NR9URAo28AJwIJY2Spdpo7vRAZTiRmA16gJlrzACdGmjR SHkWx1p1G2xAgH9uQsWMdds= =J0Pt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] CD titles artist how to?
Teruel de Campo MD wrote: I made a wav files of vinyl records. Then I burned those wav using k3b. I fill the spaces for artist title etc. When I play it I only see track 1, track 2 etc. I have been searching in how this info is contained I have not find any useful information. Q: how do you write the track info so it can be display in a cd player Any CD info I've seen, comes from a CDDB database, which someone uploaded. I don't think there's any means to store that info on the disk. There's no reason why you couldn't create your own description file, so that the CD player can read it. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] nvidia gigabit network card
I don't see an earlier message, but I recently had a nvidia Gbit NIC on MB issue where I had to disable MSI (iirc). For the details search Novell's bugzilla for an entry from me. There have only been a few so it should be easy to identify. Greg On Nov 22, 2007 1:04 PM, Michael S. Dunsavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should probably add the fact the motherboard has a nvidia chipset -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-packaging] Requires in -devel packages
On 2007-11-22 14:25:42 +0100, Philipp Thomas wrote: * Adrian Schröter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20071121 10:43]: It should NOT require a compiler package like gcc or gcc-c++. OK, the C compiler is default, but how in the world should I express that these are C++ sources and therefore need a C++ compiler? Or do you want to introduce automatic detection? how about using external compilers that dont come as rpm? like intel compiler? darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-packaging] Requires in -devel packages
On Thu, Nov 22, Philipp Thomas wrote: * Adrian Schröter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20071121 10:43]: It should NOT require a compiler package like gcc or gcc-c++. OK, the C compiler is default, but how in the world should I express that these are C++ sources and therefore need a C++ compiler? Or do you want to introduce automatic detection? Why do you think that only C++ compilers can understand your C++ header files? If you find a requires, which always works, fine. We can add it. But I know that this is not possible. There is no common tag, which all C++ compiler available for Linux provides. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk http://www.suse.de/~kukuk/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5 D-90409 Nuernberg Key fingerprint = 8C6B FD92 EE0F 42ED F91A 6A73 6D1A 7F05 2E59 24BB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-packaging] libSieve, wherefore art thou?
It seems that libSieve dropped out of OpenSuSE 10.3 (but was in OpenSuSE 10.2), and I can find no note in google or the changelog as to why. Any takers? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [opensuse-packaging] libSieve, wherefore art thou?
Am Freitag 23 November 2007 schrieb tabris: It seems that libSieve dropped out of OpenSuSE 10.3 (but was in OpenSuSE 10.2), and I can find no note in google or the changelog as to why. Any takers? Hi! I can't see such a package for 10.2: http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=libsieve Greetings, Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-packaging] libSieve, wherefore art thou?
Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Freitag 23 November 2007 schrieb tabris: It seems that libSieve dropped out of OpenSuSE 10.3 (but was in OpenSuSE perhaps I should have said 'available in 10.2' 10.2), and I can find no note in google or the changelog as to why. Any takers? Hi! I can't see such a package for 10.2: http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=libsieve note that it is listed in 10.2, but not 10.3. http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/openSUSE_10.2/i586/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/openSUSE_10.3/i586/ Greetings, Stephan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
