Re: [opensuse] The Perfect Setup - OpenSuSE 10.2 (32-bit)
Hans du Plooy schreef: On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 19:09 -0500, Fred A. Miller wrote: [snip] [snip again] If anyone who knows MySQL well knows which table contains the e-mail address, I might get courier to authenticate against that instead of against pam. Hans Hi Hans, I do authentication against MySQL with Courier. Unfortunately, Courier from Suse 10.1 has no support for MySQL auth. If you don't mind compiling, you can add the missing pieces. To ease maintenance, I modified the courier-authlib specfile, using the 'original' (from Double Precision, maintainers (?) of Courier) spec-file and made an rpm for courier-authlib-mysql. After that, you have to make an authmysqlrc file in /etc/authlib. authmysqlrc is documented in postfixadmin, I think. Hope this helps, Koenraad lelong. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] network printer--Windows
Johannes Meixner schreef: Hello, On Jan 16 19:58 Doug McGarrett wrote (shortened): Let us assume that I have a Windows machine connected to a Win Printer-- a lowly Lazerjet that Linux doesn't particularly know or love. ... Can Linux print to this printer over a network connection, No. does Linux have to have some kind of driver for this printer? Yes. Not only "some kind of driver" but actually "the right driver". See for example: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Printing_via_SMB_(Samba)_Share_or_Windows_Share It doesn't matter which kind of network protocol you use (SMB, LPD, IPP, whatever) to transfer data from Linux to Windows. The crucial point is that a usual Windows system (without additional special software) cannot convert generic PostScript, PDF, JPEG, or whatever stuff which is to be printed into printer specific data. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner FWIW, that special software could be Redmon (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/redmon/ seems down for the moment). I used it to make a non-PCL printer accept PCL, but you can make it accept PostScript also. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Wireless setup [OT]
Sorry for the off-topic post, but I don't know where to ask, so any pointers are welcome. At home I'm trying to set up a wireless accesspoint (connected to a Suse sever, that's why I ask here ;-) ). If the accesspoint is placed inside the house it's impossible to get access to it. I tried with two different products (Linksys and D-Link). Those accesspoints do work fine elsewhere, even in my gagage, which is a different building than my home, max. 20m away, but from inside my home I can't connect. I tried all channels, with no luck. So, has anyone of you some hints what to try next to get connected ? P.S. as far as I know there are no other transmitters in that band (2.4GHz ?) at home. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Wireless setup [OT]
Patrick Kirsch schreef: Hey, So, has anyone of you some hints what to try next to get connected ? P.S. as far as I know there are no other transmitters in that band (2.4GHz ?) at home. Do you have a cordless phone? A lot of them are in that band and will interfere. We had to buy a new cordless in a higher band. Yes, DECT should use the band from 1880 MHz to 1900 MHz, but ETSI allows 2400–2480 MHz which can cause trouble. If your wlan router and your wlan cards allows you to choose channel 14 (normally available in Japan) then you have a good chance that they are not overlapping. I'm not sure if this helps, but you can also adjust the burst-rate at the wlan-router. Furthermore it helps to look for other radio-emitting (phone, microwave, ham radio) devices that stand closely to each other (to the wlan router). Try to place them at least 12,5cm away from each other. A next good guess would be to look what objects are standing close to the wlan router, because of reflection, refraction and interference it is possible that the transmission waves are razed. Patrick Thanks for those suggestions, but besides some cell-phones (not near laptor or accesspoint) we don't have any wireless (radio) devices, and the microwave oven is meters away and inactive at most of the times of my tests. I'll look at the burst rate and give it a try. I tried at least five different locations in the house but except for one these were on or in open wooden closets, next to a wall. The other one was on the table max. 1 meter away from my laptop. I'll try on a different table farther away. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Wireless setup [OT]
Russell Jones schreef: You could look at kismet http://www.kismetwireless.net/ , wellenreiter http://sourceforge.net/projects/wellenreiter/ and if you're feeling flush, wi-spy http://www.metageek.net/ ... Thanks for all suggestions. Since I think I could use that wi-spy on other occasions I'm going to buy that. I'll report back (if you don't mind). -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Avoiding spam to harvested addresses
Hi, Recently I started receiving spam to a mail-address I setup for a list. To get rid of the spam I removed that mail-address so that's solved. Crude, but it works. But then I read Sandy Drobic's post from 22/8 about those bounced mails from this list ("Why do I get this back all the time"). He mentions that he setup his system to reject mails not coming from the listserver. Where in the Postfix documentation should I look for information about setting this up ? Thanks. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Gigabyte M61p-s3
Jonathan Arnold schreef: Joseph Loo wrote: I just recently bought the Gigabyte M61P-s3 motherboard. I have an x2 AMD processor running on it. I installed opensuse 10.2 on it and found out it will not recognize the ethernet Realtek RTL 8211 and Realtek ALC883 Codec chip (audio). Has anyone found a way to get them to work? or will I have to buy a LAN card and audio card for this computer as the simplest solution? If it is, in fact, an ALC883, then check out the posting I did on Linux Brain Dump. It was for an ALC888 (and for Fedora 7), but I'll bet the process is very similar - download the drivers from Realtek and install them. http://linuxbraindump.org/2007/09/11/adding-realtek-sound-to-fedora/ I just got a new PC, with an ALC883 codec on the MoBo. I downloaded the Realtek driver and after compiling/installing it worked. The driver supplied on the CD didn't work (too old I think). It's an Asus P5K MoBo B.T.W. I also tried 10.3Beta3 on it, and then it works 'out of the box'. P.S. anyone knows if the detection of the channels works ? What I mean is with Windows XP one can insert a jack-plug and the system asks what channel it is supposed to be. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] NVidia after kernel-update
Hi, I just updated my laptop, it installed a new kernel. Now my NVidia-card doesn't work any more. I activated the nv-driver, but I would like the nvidia-one back. I tried to uninstall and re-install, but this didn't work. The download-site seems not to have a new version. Any suggestions before I try compiling from source ? Running 10.1. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] NVidia after kernel-update
Sunny schreef: On 9/11/07, Koenraad Lelong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I just updated my laptop, it installed a new kernel. Now my NVidia-card doesn't work any more. I activated the nv-driver, but I would like the nvidia-one back. I tried to uninstall and re-install, but this didn't work. The download-site seems not to have a new version. Any suggestions before I try compiling from source ? Running 10.1. You will need to install it manually. If it was installed with an rpm, uninstall it, and the download nvidia-installer, and run it. You will need to have kernel-sources installed in order for this to work, as it will need to build the kernel module. Read the README on the download page. I installed with the nvidia-installer. Seems to work fine now. Thanks. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] RDP through firewall
Hi, I would like some "external" users to have access to a W2k3 server via RDP. Between the Internet and our intranet there is a Suse 10.1 machine acting as firewall (Susefirewall2). To get access to the W2k3 server I added a rule in the firewall via Yast. When I look in sysconfig I see in FW_FORWARD_MASQ : source-network : IP of client (what if this is dynamic ?) IP to forward to : IP of W2k3 server protocol : TCP port : 3389 redirect Port : 3389 destination IP : IP of external NIC Any comments before I try this ? Maybe I should use FW_FORWARD ? -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Keeping 2 or more machines up-to-date, without wasting bandwidth
Sylvester Lykkehus schreef: Hello list, This question has puzzled my quite some time. I have 2 machines, both running openSUSE (10.2) They have different purposes, and therefore are quite different in amount/selection of installed packages. I use (and is a big fan of) smart to keep both machines up to date. They both have the same repositories added. Even though the machines have different selection of packages, there are a lot of overlaps, for example KDE and Gnome are installed on both. That means, when I do a 'smart upgrade', I will use 2x the bandwidth for the packages that the machines have in common. It's not enough to just upgrade one, and snatch the packages from smart's cache to upgrade the other, since PC1 might not have gotten all the upgrades that would be available to PC2 as well. Can anyone come up with a good solution to this problem ? It's not a big deal for 2 PC's, but I could see it be useful, if I added a couple of more PC's to my lan. I was thinking something like a third machine (or one of the already connected PC's), gathering a list of needed updates from all of the PC's, then download the packages needed, and serve them (over nfs for example) to the other PC's to grab as needed. I could do this with a bit of scripting, would it be a feasible solution, or can anyone come up with something better ? Best regards Sylvester Lykkehus What I recently did is sharing (NFS) the whole smart data-directory on one machine and point the other machine(s) to that shared directory. As long as you don't try to update at the same time on different machines I think this should work. Of course you have to configure smart to not delete the rpm's. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] stunnel certificates
Hi, I want to secure access to a databese server (Firebird). I want to do this with stunnel. I'm having troubles with the certificates. This is what I did, using standard Suse 10.0 stuff (I modified openssl.cnf to have a number of defaults) : #in a clean directory create structure : mkdir demoCA mkdir demoCA/private mkdir demoCA/newcerts touch demoCA/index.txt echo 00 > demoCA/serial #Create CA files openssl req -new -x509 -keyout demoCA/private/cakey.pem -out \ demoCA/cacert.pem #Create server key & signing request openssl req -nodes -new -newkey rsa:1024 -keyout server.key -out \ server.req #sign server certificate openssl ca -policy policy_anything -notext -in server.req -out \ server.crt #Create client key & signing request openssl req -nodes -new -newkey rsa:1024 -keyout client.key -out \ client.req #sign client certificate openssl ca -policy policy_anything -notext -in client.req -out \ client.crt cp demoCA/newcerts/00.pem /etc/stunnel/server.pem cp demoCA/cacert.pem /etc/stunnel/cacert.pem chmod 740 /etc/stunnel/server.pem My stunnel.conf is : client = no foreground = yes debug = 7 verify = 3 CApath = certs CAfile = cacert.pem cert = server.pem [firebird] accept = 3051 connect = localhost:3050 When I try to start stunnel I get : ace-cad-3:/etc/stunnel # stunnel stunnel.conf 2007.05.30 12:59:33 LOG7[14071:1076660896]: Snagged 64 random bytes from /root/.rnd 2007.05.30 12:59:33 LOG7[14071:1076660896]: Wrote 1024 new random bytes to /root/.rnd 2007.05.30 12:59:33 LOG7[14071:1076660896]: RAND_status claims sufficient entropy for the PRNG 2007.05.30 12:59:33 LOG6[14071:1076660896]: PRNG seeded successfully 2007.05.30 12:59:33 LOG5[14071:1076660896]: Could not load DH parameters from server.pem 2007.05.30 12:59:33 LOG4[14071:1076660896]: Diffie-Hellman initialization failed 2007.05.30 12:59:33 LOG3[14071:1076660896]: Error reading certificate file: server.pem 2007.05.30 12:59:33 LOG3[14071:1076660896]: SSL_CTX_use_certificate_chain_file: 906D06C: error:0906D06C:PEM routines:PEM_read_bio:no start line ace-cad-3:/etc/stunnel # This procedure is an adaptation from a document from the Firebird community. What am I missing ? I think the Diffie-Hellman stuff can be ignored. I tried three other documents (from the stunnel-site) but these don't work either (for me ;-) ). Anyone can give suggestions, tips, links ? They will be very much appreciated. Are there other methods ? I don't want to give ssh access to the users. I know of zebedee, but this seems old (unsupported ?). -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] stunnel certificates [partly solved]
George Stoianov schreef: I have used this: http://www.5dollarwhitebox.org/wiki/index.php/Howtos_Self_Signed_SSL_Certificates To create a csr and cert etc. I had to only add a flag to generate the file for the serial number. I am not sure what is causing this issue, but trying a different approach may help or llead to a different error message. HTH George ... Well, I tried another howto, about adding TLS support to Postfix, which worked for my mail-server. But this didn't work either for stunnel. Finally I combined some howto's and I got partial success. One has to append the private key, the certificate and "Diffie-Hellman parameters". Each section has a blank line between them. And the last line is also a blank line. I did it this way : cat server.key > server.keycrt echo \ >> server.keycrt cat server.crt >> server.keycrt echo \ >> server.keycrt openssl gendh 512 >> server.keycrt The server.keycrt is the cert stunnel uses. With partial success I mean I can connect if I don't check the client certificate at the server (verify = 2). I believe the server can't find the client-certificate, but I don't know why. Anyone knows how to see which file an application tries to open ? -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Migrating users to new machine
Hi, I'm planning to replace a samba-server acting as PDC now running Suse9.3. For this I need to migrate all users, retaining their UID and GID and of course the passwords. Is there a safe, fast way to do this ? The home directories will be made first (restore from backup). Then I was thinking of copying /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow and /etc/group from the old machine to temporary files on the new machine and editing /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow end /etc/group of the new machine to copy new users from the old files. The rest is following "Samba by example". And suggestions and opinions are welcome. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] hosts file and Yast
Hi, I have a stupid application that reads /etc/hosts and uses the IP-address where an alias is placed as the address to listen for requests. This is fine when there is only one IP-address on the machine. My server has two net-cards and thus two IP-addresses. One goes to the Internet, the other to the internal net. Unfortunately, everytime I change something in the network-card configuration the external IP-address gets the alias. That's not what I want. If I edit hosts to be like this : ... 192.168.0.1 box1.local.net box1 192.168.1.1 box1.local.net If I change something in the network-card configuration with Yast, hosts ends up like this : ... 192.168.0.1 box1.local.net 192.168.1.1 box1.local.net box1 Is there a way to tell Yast to give the alias to the internal address ? I use Suse 10.2 B.T.W. I hope this makes sense. Thanks for any help you could provide. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Wireless setup [OT]
Koenraad Lelong schreef: Russell Jones schreef: You could look at kismet http://www.kismetwireless.net/ , wellenreiter http://sourceforge.net/projects/wellenreiter/ and if you're feeling flush, wi-spy http://www.metageek.net/ ... Thanks for all suggestions. Since I think I could use that wi-spy on other occasions I'm going to buy that. I'll report back (if you don't mind). Hi all, This is my first report ;-). I found that in my house I have three peaks that are more or less blocking all channels except for channel 1 and maybe 13 (for 802.11g anyway). Anyone interested in a picture can have one ;-). I don't know where those peaks come from, maybe the detectors of the alarm system. I set my AP to channel 1, and WinXP seems not to have a problem connecting. Suse10.1 on the same laptop (dual boot) can't connect : it times out after 60 seconds, as seen in Networkmanagers' logfile. Is there an easy way to lengthen that time-out, to try ? -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] SB Live questions
Hi, Last week I removed WinME from my home PC and installed Suse10.2. Everything seems to work fine but I have some troubles using my SoundBlaster Live audio-card. With Windows it was possible to record sounds that were playing on the speakers ("what you hear is what you get"). With Linux I seem unable to do this. In fact I have trouble understanding kmix for this card. I tried recording with Krecord, but it doen't record anything, I tried all "inputs" with some music from the internet playing. I still have to try other sound-sources though. Googling does not help. Any help, experiences, comments are welcome. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Question about desktop position on display
Hi, It sounds confusing but I have following problem : I have a rather old IIyama LCD display, and the desktop slightly disappears from the display : on the left side I lose the whole cursor. If I try to position it whith the display's buttons, it jumps right back when the diplay leaves its setup-display. Is there a way to do this in software ? I tried Yasts screen setup but clicking the arrows doesn't move the display. It's no big problem though. I'm running Suse 10.2, the graphics card is NVidia (GeForce2 MX/MX 400 I think). Thanks for any help. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Question about desktop position on display
Joe Morris (NTM) schreef: Koenraad Lelong wrote: I have a rather old IIyama LCD display, and the desktop slightly disappears from the display : on the left side I lose the whole cursor. If I try to position it whith the display's buttons, it jumps right back when the diplay leaves its setup-display. Is there a way to do this in software ? Have you given the size of its x and y in sax2 or Yast2? Sorry for my late answer, beeing busy so I neglected reading the mailinglist. The dimensions of the dispaly were detected fine. I didn't configure them but they are correct. I played a bit with the max. and min. horizontal and vertical timing settings but that doesn't work. Other suggestions anyone ? For the record, the screen is a Iiyama ProLite 46a. I find it more annoying that I thought before so maybe I'm going to buy another screen. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Firewire and linux?
John Andersen schreef: On Monday 16 April 2007, Mike Adolf wrote: ... Firewire is twice as fast as usb 1.1, but not as fast as usb 2.0 There is a new firewire slowly starting to appear that will be about twice as fast as existing usb 2.0 (or existing firewire) but I've not actually seen this in production yet. AFAIK, Firewire 2, 800Mbps does exist for years. Maybe it's becomming mainstream now. Or maybe there are few devices using it. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Iomega Rev drive
Hi, Is anyone using a Iomega Rev-drive (70GB native) ? I would like to use it as a backup device. I briefly tested it on Suse (don't remember the version though) when I purchased an ATAPI one for a Windows machine, but it didn't work out of the box. Maybe it needs some tweaks or maybe recent Suse-versions work better. Or maybe the SATA version is better supported ? Googling showed it should work, but I would like to hear some experiences. Thanks. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Iomega Rev drive
Roger Oberholtzer schreef: On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 12:02 +0200, Koenraad Lelong wrote: Hi, Is anyone using a Iomega Rev-drive (70GB native) ? I would like to use it as a backup device. ... If you have a choice, look for something else. Prior to the REV we used the Peerless. That worked great. So of course it was discontinued. We now use basic USB disks like LaCie or Maxtor. They may cost a bit more than a REV disk, but we reuse them as they are only for data transport. For backups, they are perhaps more than you want to pay. Depends on how important the data is. Thanks for your vision. Like I said, I use it on a Windows machine, works fine. Backing up about 80Gb in about 4 hours over the network I find acceptable. But that's on Windows. I do the same with some USB disks also on the Windows 2K machine, but there the disks sometimes disconnect for no apparent reason. And another con is the size : a Rev disk is very small. Anyway, I'm gathering information to virtualise some servers. I would like the host OS to be Suse. Maybe it will be Windows :-( Thanks again. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] SNMP software
Hello, My router has snmp-functions and in the usermanual is written that this is "compatible with HP Openview compliant software". Is there some Linux-software I can use to access the router ? I played with net-snmp but I don't get anything back. I enabled snmp on another suse machine and from this I get answers on my queries. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Question on Uninteruptable Power Supplies
Aaron Kulkis schreef: Marc Chamberlin wrote: I have been looking at UPS to support some of my SuSE computers and am interested in one from CyberPower. I wrote them asking if theirs would run under SuSE Linux and got the following (somewhat unintelligible geek speak) and wonder if someone on this group can translate it for me.. ;-) Does anyone here use this UPS ( CyberPower Systems CP1350AVRLCD UPS) under SuSE? I use APC, because the explicitly support Linux, even providing the Linux version of their powerchute program on their website. ... Right now I'm considering a new UPS. I used MGE (a sponsor of NUT), but they seem to be taken over by APC. My question : do you protect more than one server with one UPS ? Does Powerchute provide information to the servers not directly communicating with the UPS ? What I mean is, when the UPS is exhausted, does the "master" server sends messages so the "slave" servers also go down cleanly (not just power off) ? "Master" meaning the server that listens to the UPS's status, "slaves" just get power from the UPS. Can Windows be part of this setup ? I looked on their web-site but I didn't find these answers, maybe I overlooked ? -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Question on Uninteruptable Power Supplies
Dave Howorth schreef: Sandy Drobic wrote: In our company the ups is a bit bigger and includes a snmp card, so all servers can query the ups directly and decide depending on their local configuration if they should shut down or not. I'd second everything Sandy said and add that it's not essential to have an snmp card for multiple servers. apcupsd also has its own method of distributing status to daemons on other machines. Use whichever is most suitable for you. Cheers, Dave Thank you both for this information. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong R&D Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]