Re: [opensuse] XFCE4
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 23:46 -0400, Chuck Payne wrote: > Question, > > When will XFCE be a part of base install of OpenSUSE? I'd love this to be so too! I use it on a couple of old 500 and 400mhz/512mb ram class pentia, and it will run on those whereas the other guis like kde (which I generally like for the bells and whistles) drag most mightily upon. I'm really not technical at all, so don't know how or if it is possible, to put in the Suse menu button onto xfce4, so one can point and click to bring up a list of programs and tools. Anyone know how/if this can be done? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Giving up on Nvidia fx5500 - what other pci vid card has good drivers?
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 17:02 -0400, Carl Hartung wrote: > First, you've omitted most of the details that might help other subscribers > understand and help with your problem (mainboard make/model, retail or OSS, > etc.?) I've tried everything over many months with this system - including tips from earlier threads months ago, as pthers have also reported difficulties with fx5500 and 5200 chipsets Being on a limited income due to disability now, I can't afford to make a wrong choice again, hence request for guidance to a card with reliable drivers! I got it working once, not sure how - I was floundering around poking into anything by that time of night after many attempts over a few weeks. Then disk died so had to reinstall and total lack of success since. So I didn't bother anyone with details - just said I give up. It ain't gonna work. > Second, this list (opensuse) deals with future releases (factory, > betas and release candidates,) whereas suse-linux-e (SLE) is the appropriate > list for problems with released versions (i.e. 10.0, 9.3, 9.2...) > Oh my time has run on, this was the release/beta when I started on building up a new system.. yikes > Have you seen these instructions?: > > http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html Oh yes, indeedy. Yup. And err... > > Carl > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- - "When the multitude detests a man, inquiry is necessary; when the multitude likes a man, inquiry is equally necessary." Confucius, Analects (circa 6th century BC) Or more pertinently: "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." Benjamin Franklin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Giving up on Nvidia fx5500 - what other pci vid card has good drivers?
I've given up on trying to make a nvidia fx5500 work with Suse 10.0, can't even get it to complete installation using the graphics installer, and can't get it to start X even when using fx86config to try and set up a basic. What other video card chipset has a good driver support with suse? There was an ATI Radeon something there, but I recall ATI has had a reputation for poor support. Has this improved? (My wife dropped by the shop on a trip into town but can't remember the exact model). Almost all that seem to be in the local shop are using that super pci wotsit, but I'm about 3yrs out of date with my motherboard and haven't been keeping up with developments (so can't even remember the name of the new slot standard...) -- - "When the multitude detests a man, inquiry is necessary; when the multitude likes a man, inquiry is equally necessary." Confucius, Analects (circa 6th century BC) Or more pertinently: "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." Benjamin Franklin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OSS 10.0 Improper console display when running X on nividia FX5500
Hi Pete Thanks for the tip. Did you mean the Suse archives for finding out where you could disable the TV output and nvidia display logo?? On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 22:39 +, Pete Connolly wrote: > On Monday 27 February 2006 13:15, Martin Schlander wrote: > > On Monday 27 February 2006 13:48, M.Blackmore wrote: > > > with the FX5500, if I ctrl-alt-f1,f2 etc. into a console I get > > > a mashed up screen of magenta and cyan and black rectangles... not too > > > useful. > > > > I have the exact same thing - coincidentally I also use FX5500. Seems to be > > a problem with the Nvidia-driver - as I believe there's no problem while > > using the open source nv driver. I believe the problem is there no matter > > whether you install Nvidia via YOU or using latest official driver from > > Nvidia.com. > > > > I can't answer, however if there's a fix, but I too surely would like to > > know it, if there is. > > > > cb400f > > > > HI Martin and Malcolm > > I seem to remember having similar problems with another Nvidia card a while > back that turned out to be due to the driver trying to output to the TV when > it wasn't connected. I ended up trawling the archives and disabling the > display of the Nvidia logo and any output to the TV and it solved my problem. > > > I'm afraid I can't remember the magic runes used in the XF86config/xorg.conf > file, but take a look around focussing on the TV out disabling. Worked for > me. > > Good luck > > Pete > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OSS 10.0 Improper console display when running X on nividia FX5500
Good news is solved the dual display problem, not sure how though (matrox millenium ISA, Nvidia fx5500). Went into x86config and config file and fiddled and something worked... However, with the FX5500, if I ctrl-alt-f1,f2 etc. into a console I get a mashed up screen of magenta and cyan and black rectangles... not too useful. Persists after closing down x-windows (I boot into level 3, screens are OK until run x-windows). This is a real nuisance (I like going into a console for various admin things). Anyone else seen this? Any idea why it occurs? Any thoughts on a cure? Due to totally cocking-up the suse otherwise (see newbie warning below...) I did a reinstall and the problem has manifested itself again. Twice could be coincidence, but then again it could be enemy action. I don't want to reinstall again! Warning - my technical level of knowledge in linux is still very low >;) VERY! Darn, gotta go and get 3 yr old from playgroup! Await helpful messages for tonight when got kids to bed! They'll be pleased with the snow forcast for Britain tomorrow. Not sure we will - half an inch of snow and rail and road communications cease and we get cut off in the Cotswold Hills... not like when I was a lad in Canada living in the Erie snowbelt! Malcolm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Do we need an official web forum?
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 06:36 -0600, Glenn Holmer wrote: > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 08:25, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote: > > The first question is: do we need/want an official openSUSE web > > forum? Why? > > No: > > Unnecessary waste of energy that could be used elsewhere. > As a non-technical user I'll add my voice in agreement here. Why moderate another forum? This one must take up enough of Suse staffs' time. So I vote "NON" too (echoing De Gaulle there, eh? Which would mean something to Europeans of a certain age...) > Adds confusion (and just when we've decided to have only one same > version of SUSE...). > Not necessarily, but the point about two different audiences is perhaps valid, but not as important as the first point. > Re. "mailing lists are too hard to use", people who can't follow simple > instructions to join (send an e-mail to... to subscribe, send an e-mail > to... to unsubscribe) probably won't be helped by the message content > in any case. > Well, I found my way to the list ... but still often find the help too technical anyway! But resources would be better spent doing some really helpful idiot tips over stupid things that one doesn't find in the usual manuals that fox newbies, those odd gaps, that tekkies have subsumed into an instinctive level they don't think about in their assumptions. Information storage and retrieval is important too - Email lists thread nicely - I've not seen a web list that does. Only thing I've ever seen with decent threading is Cix's web based conferencing system, which grew out of an old BBS since the early 80s. Might be worth a look at that for an inspiration ... but what does that provide that a mailing list won't, apart from access on the move for people away from their message base? In cix's case the off line reader threading and the web prescence are simply interchangeable, and it works well for differing needs. Now web access to list stuff may be a useful facility to have for people who could use it away from base, but that could be done using a different and less intensive method, surely?? He asks the technical ...! > Also: tradition! www is not the whole internet, even if we no longer use > gopher :) > Indeed, point taken. I've been "on the net" since the err 70s. Just because one is a shallow user doesn't mean to say that one hasn't been using the technology as a tool and communications system for a lifetime - just not needed to/have time to delve into the inner workings in the way that professional IT people simply have to as their core knowledge. I think it is important that the less resource consuming older layers of the systems continue to be used. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] X fails to start - locks up completely, won't install graphically
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 22:18 -0500, BandiPat wrote: > That command will make it do a new search. You can also do sax2 -p, Well, the mga card is there listed, as 0, with the nvidia as 1 > which will give you info on what sax2 has found in the system either in > PCI or AGP or both. Might be a good idea to try that first just to see > if it's finding your card/s. > > Since you are using a LCD monitor and I've found those can be somewhat > problematic for sax2, you might also try sax2 -l, to see if using a > lores screen will get into the setup gui. Playing with variations, -m 0=mga,1=nvidia or nv at least things didn't lock up, but sax2 exited without being able to proceed. Varying the input to -m 0=mga brought up both screens and identified the cards properly and allowed me to configure, both from the command line in runlevel 3,and also from within the gui as a yast module. So we make some progress. BUT this sets up the mga screen to be the primary video screen - which I don't want, I want the AGP slot nvidia to be the primary screen. Even more oddly, when running xwindows session on the mga card, that screen is in the xwindows, and the nvidia monitor is still showing the command prompt login, which I can switch back to using ctrl-alt-fx key - I started x windows from a user login on alt-f2 in this case. Now I can see this being occassionally useful >;) setup in such a way (allowing one to have a gui display with say a help manual displayed and a nice command line on the other monitor) but it is not, generally, how I would like to have things when I run the twin monitor. I set up the two monitors to be two independent displays, then I use a kvm switch onthe second monitor to be able ti display independently the output from a second computer, when I want to. Works nicely like that. I've had a look at the yast modules and there seems to be no option for telling it which monitor to use as the default, but I'm sure I've seen this in the past! Wheres it gone?? Also now that I remember it, when I did the yast setup, it didn't show any display on the nvidia despite it being identified as an active display. Hmmm. Its all gotta be in some config files somewhere - but where? And in what form? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] X fails to start - locks up completely, won't install graphically
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 17:05 -0500, BandiPat wrote: > - > > Ok, it seems the problems persist no matter if one or two cards are > installed, so go ahead and put the Matrox back in for this test. Let's > try this then and it will require a bit of command line stuff for a > moment, but it's painless. ;o) > > ctrl-alt-F1 > login as root > at root prompt type: init 3 (this stops X, kills all graphics) Already in there - not booting to gui > now type: sax2 -m 0=nvidia (this should start sax2 gui using the nvidia > card as the base) > If all goes well, sax2 should start, Whoops... SaX: ups lost card during probing ... abort pooter:~# Which card I wonder, did it lose? I stumbled across something in yast which indicates that the OS knows about the matrox millenium card, under system>pci drivers>pci card setup The matrox is listed as being in there, but I don't know what to do with it (add it? What criteria/settings?)... Ooohh, I suppose this is character forming. So is trying to run a gui (xfce4) on a 128mb P350 - but, hey, at least that one works! Well, with patience. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] X fails to start - locks up completely, won't install graphically
Oh, I've just noticed something - Monitor 1 (there is no monitor two mentioned!) doesn't have any name attached to the video card setting, tho' its recognsied the IIyama LCD monintor model correctly. Hmmm. On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 21:14 +0000, M.Blackmore wrote: > On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 18:10 -0500, BandiPat wrote: > > On Saturday 14 January 2006 17:17, M.Blackmore wrote: > > > Total lock up with two different nvidia cards (fx5500, followed by > > > 5200), won't install graphics on installation of Suse 10 (Linux > > > Magazine UK version DVD - good on Linux Mag!!). > > > > I've had mixed success so far. > > The systems also got a matrox millenium pci card for a second display, > which I have had in and out of the box, and played with pic slot irq > assignations etc. > > > - > > Have you tried removing the Matrox card to see if things begin to work > > normally? > > Nope, doing that didn't work initially using sax2/yast tools - lockup. > > I did, however, set up a basic nvidia generic driver using xf86config, > and that seemed to enable something enough to run sax2, and I was then > able to set up the nvidia card and monitor using the pointyklikky tools > that lusers like me like... however, no second card with this. > > > You might also check your /var/log/messages file or the > > Xorg.0.log for errors/help in what's happening. > > Had a look at those but didn't mean anything to me - a reflection of my > ignorance. But didn't seem to be anything saying "failed" or whatever. > System just hangs on running sax2. > > > Are you saying the > > setup doesn't work with either the SuSE supplied nv driver or nVidia's > > driver? > > > Yes, problem was with both. > > OK, now if I was able to, with both the matrox card in and out of the > system, do something with xf86config that enabled sax2 to run, how can I > set up the second PCI slot card as well using the same method - it might > work?? > > Sax2 isn't recognising the existence of the second card now that I've > taken it out. I did have a system running with both cards recognised but > the monitor settings were all wrong and I couldn't run the yast control > panel to change them without locking the system. > > At least I can get a single monitor system running, which is an > improvement. I like GUIs - as thick as two short planks when it comes to > command lines... > > Yours in bafflement > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] X fails to start - locks up completely, won't install graphically
On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 18:10 -0500, BandiPat wrote: > On Saturday 14 January 2006 17:17, M.Blackmore wrote: > > Total lock up with two different nvidia cards (fx5500, followed by > > 5200), won't install graphics on installation of Suse 10 (Linux > > Magazine UK version DVD - good on Linux Mag!!). > > I've had mixed success so far. The systems also got a matrox millenium pci card for a second display, which I have had in and out of the box, and played with pic slot irq assignations etc. > > - > Have you tried removing the Matrox card to see if things begin to work > normally? Nope, doing that didn't work initially using sax2/yast tools - lockup. I did, however, set up a basic nvidia generic driver using xf86config, and that seemed to enable something enough to run sax2, and I was then able to set up the nvidia card and monitor using the pointyklikky tools that lusers like me like... however, no second card with this. > You might also check your /var/log/messages file or the > Xorg.0.log for errors/help in what's happening. Had a look at those but didn't mean anything to me - a reflection of my ignorance. But didn't seem to be anything saying "failed" or whatever. System just hangs on running sax2. > Are you saying the > setup doesn't work with either the SuSE supplied nv driver or nVidia's > driver? > Yes, problem was with both. OK, now if I was able to, with both the matrox card in and out of the system, do something with xf86config that enabled sax2 to run, how can I set up the second PCI slot card as well using the same method - it might work?? Sax2 isn't recognising the existence of the second card now that I've taken it out. I did have a system running with both cards recognised but the monitor settings were all wrong and I couldn't run the yast control panel to change them without locking the system. At least I can get a single monitor system running, which is an improvement. I like GUIs - as thick as two short planks when it comes to command lines... Yours in bafflement - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] X fails to start - locks up completely, won't install graphically
On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 18:10 -0500, BandiPat wrote: > > Xorg.0.log for errors/help I forgot to ask - where do I find that? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] X fails to start - locks up completely, won't install graphically
On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 18:10 -0500, BandiPat wrote: > > - > Have you tried removing the Matrox card to see if things begin to work > normally? I've had cards in and out of this slot like a ... well, a lot. I think I did .. need to double check that. Had meant to! Got to look after a toddler between times so its been a bit fragmented today! > You might also check your /var/log/messages file or the > Xorg.0.log for errors/help in what's happening. Ah, ha, right I'll look into those. Nice to know of their existence. > Are you saying the > setup doesn't work with either the SuSE supplied nv driver or nVidia's > driver? Exactly!! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] X fails to start - locks up completely, won't install graphically
Total lock up with two different nvidia cards (fx5500, followed by 5200), won't install graphics on installation of Suse 10 (Linux Magazine UK version DVD - good on Linux Mag!!). Installing system to boot into runlevel 3 sax2 locks up - screen flicks blank once, comes back with cursor at left top, fixed not blinking, nothing works except reset switch. What do I do? This has occurred both before installing updates and after online update, including downloading nvidia drivers. Only oddity I can think of is second video card - a PCI matrox millenium. But works OK in 9.3 with that. How to solve? Beware non tekkie user - spell it out and don't make basic knowledge assumptions!! Many thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] YAST for Debian - what happened to this?
Sort of tangential to topic I know, but wasn't someone porting YAST to Debian now that Suse had open sourced YAST code? Did anything happen about that? I think that if YAST became more widely available it would be a good thing for Suse variant of linux... question prompted by someone on GLLLUG asking if there were any easy config tools for Debian. Anyone know? I depend on yast as I don't know enough about setting up config files etc. to be able to do it myself, and there are plenty of shallow users/neonate penguinistas in the same sort of boat I should think. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Votes for Codename Theme now Open
On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 19:36 +0100, Juergen Weigert wrote: > On Jan 12, 06 18:21:41 +, 'o-Dzin Tridral wrote: > > Can we include the Monitor lizard? > > [honoluluzoo.org] > " Monitors belong to the family Varanidae. They are active lizards, that may > " be very hostile, lashing out with their tails upon the slightest > " provocation. Even a small monitor can produce a stinging lash with its > " tail. The claws of monitors are long and sharp. The jaws are very strong. > Once > " they bite something it is very difficult to get them to let go. Also mouth and dentition host to virulently hostile hosts of bacteria - quick slashing chomp, then sit back waiting for the victim to expire/ get too weak from massive septacemia, is favoured hunting tactic. Charming. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Votes for Codename Theme now Open
On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 11:25 -0700, Darren R. Davis wrote: > I think Dinosaurs sends the wrong message (old, outdated) where as > Dragons sends the right message "large and powerful serpent Hmm. Or not as the case may be - threatening and interesting times. Better make it a red dragon, red is supposed to be culturally positive to the Chinese at least. Beware of cultural sensitivities! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] [OT] This is a sweet little Penguin ... can we have drawings for a chameleon?
This is cute: http://www.free-penguin.org/ Anyone up to doing the pattern for a chameleon? The kids (3 and 8) have a godmother who is pretty nifty with a needle >;) and although we've got a Tux courtesy of Linux Emporium some years back (who sits by the monitor with three little baby penguins), the sproggets have asked about the lizard like daddy's compooter... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Installing KDE 3.5 onto SUSE OSS 10.0 - handholding please!
OK I don't get it. I simply can't grasp what people are saying about doing stuff with YAST or not doing stuff with err... whatever it was has disappeared off my ISP's remote IMAP server again so can't remember (that server has been locking up for weeks now and randomly loses stuff... ) I've found a directory with KDE updates, but this is a tree of directories containing RPMs. The wiki didn't seem to bring anything up meaningful on a search of kde 3.5 howto etc. Can someone step me through what I am supposed to be trying to achieve to get this upgrade to KDE 3.5 installed so I have an idea of what is being aimed for, using what tools available? Assume very low level of linux knowledge here, I'm drowning not waving... Much appreciated. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OSS 10. Nvidia FX5500 and mashed up terminal screens ctrl-f1 etc.
Downloaded nvidia drivers via yast, and now if ctrl-f1 etc. into terminals get nasty magenta red blue blocks mashed up all over the screen. Can't go into second, third etc. terminals via f1..n keys, they are completely blank (nor cursor, nuffink). Whats wrong? What cure? Not much use as a system without those terminals! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Kmail filtering ... no, surely they allow that...!!
On Saturday 10 December 2005 01:26, Mathias Homann wrote: > kmail older than from kde 3.5 can't use imap folders as targets for > filtering. Ah, 10.0 comes with Kmail 1.8.2, so I assume you mean the kmail that comes with KDE 3.5 is a later version with this feature? Is there a 3.5 update available to put into suse 10.0 (online updated)? For download? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Kmail filtering ... no, surely they allow that...!!
I'm playing with kmail under newly installed 10 (courtesy of Linux Mag Europe and their DVD). I've access to a - very old - IMAP mail provision located somewhere else in the world nowadays, but that doesn't matter about where. It works generally, and is historically cheap! Now, with Kmail, when I try and filter messages by mailing list into the appropriate sub folders below the Inbox of the remote IMAP server (as I have done for YEARS) Kmail's option menus ONLY seem to allow me to set the moving rule for messages meeting the filter specifications to The Local Folders. It does not allow me to move messages from the inbox of the IMAP server to the subfolders residing under the IMAP servers inbox. For whatever reason, the IMAP server refuses point blank to make any folders except and only when they are made by the user under inbox as subfolders. Where or what would I do to turn this most convenient filtering into sibfolders on the remote imap server back on again? It is a Must Have, I fear. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Most odd... where are evolution's contact (address) information kept??
On Sun, 2005-11-13 at 00:46 +, M.Blackmore wrote: > I've just set nfs export the .evolution folder from the server (which is > quite often used for just checking mail as it is on all day and I can't > be bothered to boot the much quicker desktop - saves electricity too) > mapped onto the desktop box's home/myname/.evolution folder to try and > keep things in sync (even though the mailbox is IMAP on a remote > machine, things do seem to get confused when accessed from two boxes). > > However, the contacts seem to have disappeared from the desktop machine, > indicating that the contacts data is held somewhere else. Ah, its in ~/.gconf/apps/evolution. And its now clear (err, yes?) that .gconf is sort of a gnome conf folder. I would never have thought to look in there, but once one looks, it's sort of obvious. Well, it always helps, when looking for something, to know what you are looking for. Bit like --help or man pages - they are reminders for people who know it already, but pretty much useless for those without the base knowledge to start with! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Most odd... where are evolution's contact (address) information kept??
On Sun, 2005-11-13 at 08:58 +, James Ogley wrote: > > However, the contacts seem to have disappeared from the desktop machine, > > indicating that the contacts data is held somewhere else. > > Did you sync ~/.gconf as well? Thanks Magev and James. I would never have thought of .gconf as having anything to do with Evilotion! No, I didn't nfs export that directory. What else is held in that directory off home? Or is it only evolution stuff? I assume this is where junk filtering information is held as well. I don't know what you mean by "sync" in this context. All I'm doing is simply exporting the data directory (and now the .gconf directory) via nfs onto the local network so I can use mail from another desktop 'pooter rather than this creaking 400mhz/256mb old faithful that acts as a file server. For some reason, despite an IMAP mail account "somewhere in Britain" which I've had for, well, about '85 or '86 (perhaps it wasn't IMAP then but turned into IMAP at some point in the 90s) the mail kept on getting out of sync between the machines. In particular not tracking deletions and filing into sub folders on the IMAP box. I assume just exporting them via NFS is workable and there aren't any nasty pitfalls? Copying them would work too, but that wouldn't deal with the syncing problems. I'd prefer to be using Thunderbird, but for some reason that screws up and locks on the IMAP server. And I don't want to give that account up - its really cheap now, and too convenient! Evolution, though I don't like it that much, does the job. Sylpheed Claws also screws up with the imap server. Otherwise Sylpheed looks very effective as a user software. So I suspect something not quite compliant about the server they are using. Hopefully they are keeping it patched! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Most odd... where are evolution's contact (address) information kept??
On Sun, 2005-11-13 at 00:46 +, M.Blackmore wrote: > I've just set nfs export the .evolution folder from the server ... > mapped onto the desktop box's home/myname/.evolution folder... > > However, the contacts seem to have disappeared from the desktop machine, > indicating that the contacts data is held somewhere else. > > Any ideas where? And the same with the filters, all of which are having to be set up on the desktop box seperately. Innocent me, I had assumed that home/name/.evolution would have all that information available. So... anyone any idea where the contact and calender data is held? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Most odd... where are evolution's contact (address) information kept??
I've just set nfs export the .evolution folder from the server (which is quite often used for just checking mail as it is on all day and I can't be bothered to boot the much quicker desktop - saves electricity too) mapped onto the desktop box's home/myname/.evolution folder to try and keep things in sync (even though the mailbox is IMAP on a remote machine, things do seem to get confused when accessed from two boxes). However, the contacts seem to have disappeared from the desktop machine, indicating that the contacts data is held somewhere else. Any ideas where? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] install suse 10 eval from network
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 16:19 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: > Michal Hlavac wrote: > > > Yep. Download the 5 CDs, loop-mount them etc., then boot from CD1, then > on the screen use F3 and F4 to select an NFS install. > But will this work with a downloaded DVD iso? I've had no success with the Eval .iso image at all. Always worked before from copying the relevant directories of a ftp server onto a local networked drive. Getting nowhere loop mounting the DVD iso. Is it simply unworkable for loop mounting? Otherwise I'm going to have to download the whole 5x CDs' :-( A slow and painful process. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] STANDARDISING ON *GNOME*!!! hOW *COULD* YOU.....!!!!
Surely not, please tell me this is a mis-reporting, someone. Please Please. http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/11/05/1620206.shtml?tid=223&tid=106 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] ftpd command isn't there ... what is it? Where should it be?
I'm still trying to get suse 10.0 gm onto my desktop (emailing here from a P200/128mb "server" until a network install works!). In the context of mounting a loopback dvd.iso image into a directory for export via nfs (which didn't work with an nfs error returned) it was suggested I mounted another way and then started an ftp "server" (I assume). The command to do this was suggested as ftpd -D However, this returned a - command not found in bash - error. What is ftpd? i.e. what is it starting up? Is there anything else in suse 9.3 that is supposed to do the same thing (different name or different program)? If it is on the installation, where would it live? And how do I direct the 'pooter to find it in its search path? Trying to get suse10.0 onto my desktop is proving quite an obstacle course. At least in windows I'd have some clue where to start poking about ... Good thing I'm into free/open source stuff for political/ideological reasons, eh? That's if I can get "in" to it... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Exporting Evolution address book, mail, to another machine.
On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 13:26 +0100, M.Blackmore wrote: > to migrate over ... the contents of Evolution > > However, it doesn't look like Evolution is going to be so easy. > > No luser menus for export anywhere, Thanks for the collective wisdom, pengiepersons. And as someone said, this lack of transparent "export" - even if it is simply copy the contents of .evolution directory into a "file" and then undo them into the required (and prompted for??) directory on the new box, it is really a Useability Bug. What is almost - and often truly is - subliminal absorbed knowledge to a IT technical person is so out of the information range for those not so versed as to make it hard to even find the right way to conceptualise the question about the problem one has, much less articulate it. Heck, its makes it hard to conceptualise in any meaningful way what the problem IS to ask a question around. Imagine the scene: an Aussie squaddie in the middle of the Papua New Guinea mountains asks a local (who has never seen anyone from the other side of the ridge in the next valley, much less a European) to "G'day mate, go fix that radio over there. It ain't transmitting." Presuming that the chap speaks English, of course. Which he probably doesn't. The people in the next valley don't either. In fact they speak a totally unrelated language that is mutually incomprehensible to any valley around. Well, thats just the way it feels hereabouts at times - something isn't simply "doing what I want". Err err err. There is an old Irish joke it is always worth pondering, for it is both banal and deep: Gentleman asked gobda in the middle of the remotest bog in the west: "Is that the way to Dublin?" "Sure 'tis Sir. But if I were you, I wouldn't be starting from here!" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Loop mounting iso doesn't seem to work...
On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 00:03 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Let's say you have user id = 1000 and group id = 1000. The easy way goes like > this (this is what I did): > > mkdir ~/suse > mount xx.iso ~/suse -ouid=1000,gid=1000,loop Thanks Konstantin, that bit works works OK, in that from the server where I just setup the loopback, a ls of the /suse directory (well, /suse10.0 in this instance) shows the contents of the dvd.iso. (How does this relate to the command hoaghi gives in his mounting the iso: mount -o loop /dadadadum.iso /anywhere; does the ouid and gid alter where the loop goes, or is the loop optional front or back of the command?). > ftpd -D err just tried ftpd, came back with an error (this is in suse 9.3) saying "bash command not found". This is su'd into a terminal window as root immediately after executing the mount command given above. What is ftpd and where would it normally be resident? (I must get a grip of path commands in linux some day, old Dos was s easy to set up a path command...) Thanks for the help so far! > > When the installer prompts you for your ftp server, give the corresponding IP > address and log in with your username and password. When it asks for a > directory, just enter "suse". Remember to remove the "/" it has by default or > the source will not be found! > > > Konstantinos Tampouris > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Loop mounting iso doesn't seem to work...
On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 22:16 +0200, Alexander S. Usov wrote: > why not do the install over ftp/http using the same image? > Worked fine for me. > Utterly no idea how to set ftp up!! Only time I tried a couple of months ago using yast tools I totally failed to be able to do it - the installer simply didn't find the source on the server. In the end I managed to get a downloaded directory of 9.3 off the ftp server at a mirror onto my hard disk (shorn of the 64 bit stuff which I can't use) and that exported fine via nfs. 10.0 doesn't seem to exist in that form last time I looked at a mirror! I assume one has to set up the file server as an ftp server as well, with the export/suse/suse10.0 directory as the directory served up. I tried that (with 9.3) and the installer failed to find it. If it don't work in yast then I'm sunk without trace knowledge wise. And snatching 10 minutes here, 5 there, between small kids when I'm well enough to think (which with a long term illness a bit like FM/MS can be pretty seldom) means that the learning process is slow... I find most how-tos very difficult. I suspect they are written as aides memoires for tekkies to each other - i.e. you have to know how to do soemthing before you can understand the howto or help page, which just jogs the memory if can't quite recall the exact syntax etc. Not much use for the utterly ignorant and time-restrained! With ftp what sort of things need I be looking out for that could be making me trip up when doing it with yast? Or something I have to delve into an initiation or config file to twiddle about that yast won't do or won't do properly? And seeing as I don't have a clue where most of these things reside or what they are called anymore that can be problematic. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Loop mounting iso doesn't seem to work...
Fiddling with this for hours and still no luck. Any thoughts what I am missing? Suspect its probably me :-(( On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 00:03 +0100, M.Blackmore wrote: > Hokay. I've downloaded the iso's of the cd and also the EVAL dvd. > > Loop mounted them per hoaghi's instructions. > > Is there any reason why mounting the DVD iso (and not makeDVD from the > CD's) should fail as an nfs source for booting another 'pooter off the > boot cd (as burned from boot.iso)? > > The error message is something along the lines of (shutdown the other > pooter before noting it down, alas) > > error in nfs unknown error -1 > > Huh? > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] XFCE4 and "suse menu" - how do I put it on the toolbar?
On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 10:56 +0200, Jerry Westrick wrote: > > > > Yes, yes the client is King, even if he doesn't even read what your saying... > > But you asked for help xcfe, and there I can offer you none, as I've never > seen it... Fair 'nuff Guv! XFCE4 is actually very efficient on a 433/265mb ram box, running evolvution and firefox with ff having up to half a dozen open tabs. Jus' wan' me little menu tab, mate, thats all - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] XFCE4 and "suse menu" - how do I put it on the toolbar?
On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 20:30 +0200, Jerry Westrick wrote: > .. > > You should not be running aGUI on the box at all... > > I suggeest you let the box run without GUI, and do your work and updates > remote from either a linux or windows box... Ah, but running a GUI on a low end box is PRECISELY what I want to do. It's convenient, that old machine runs all day, every day, except for bedtimes (to save electricity again. I'm very greeny). Precisely what I don't want to do is to boot up another box for those casual email checks and web site scans... and I don't know command line stuff. And don't have time to "invest" in learning them. And I like GUI's. And xfce4 works quite respectably with evolution and firefox with a few tabs open. What I'd like is very simple: my little green SUSE menu lizard (or just a button without the lizard picture) that brings up all the application and tools options on a single click! Always listen to what the customer wants, eh? >;) Even if the tekkie thinks it is foolish/lame/uncool! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Loop mounting iso doesn't seem to work...
Hokay. I've downloaded the iso's of the cd and also the EVAL dvd. Loop mounted them per hoaghi's instructions. Is there any reason why mounting the DVD iso (and not makeDVD from the CD's) should fail as an nfs source for booting another 'pooter off the boot cd (as burned from boot.iso)? The error message is something along the lines of (shutdown the other pooter before noting it down, alas) error in nfs unknown error -1 Huh? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] XFCE4 and "suse menu" - how do I put it on the toolbar?
I'm using a low end box as a file server and, to save energy and switching on his or hers "proper" boxes will often use this to do quick access to mail held on a remote imap account, basic web access etc. I've found that XFCE4 seems to be the "nicest looking" and causes a LOT less diskswapping than the other KDE/Gnome alternatives installed "out of the box". I don't have time for learning how to configure stuff from scratch, from bitty bits of information written by tekkies for tekkies (me, provacative? Heh heh heh). Looking after preschool kids with real dodgy health and energy levels does that to you... Anyway, XFCE4 does all I need for this "always on" box EXCEPT give me the nice Suse popup menu with the fetching reptile's mug grinning on the green button. It would be nice to have that available for some of the apps and functions. How can I put it onto a toolbar? i.e. what is it "called" - if it is a single item? I don't even know where to start! Assume a most trivial level of knowledge! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Exporting Evolution address book, mail, to another machine.
I'm migrating from a slower 433mhz box running Suse 9.3 (with xfcs4 in a small amount of ram) to a "newer" 2ghz box with 10.0 (installing real soon now ..tick-tock-tick-tock). When this is done I want to migrate over the bookmarks for Firefox (easy) and the contents of Evolution (got a shared network drive to ease things). However, it doesn't look like Evolution is going to be so easy. No luser menus for export anywhere, and my level of knowledge is pretty shallow. Have I missed something? The most useful thing google showed up was a couple of scripts for exporting the contacts for thunderbird. Can't use thunderbird, for some reason it screws up totally on my email provider (which after 15yrs I don't want to adandon as it provides me with IMAP, though I have to keep the folder sizes moderate on the server, so have to periodically copy archives onto the local disks. Or the imap chokes). Seems a bit odd I can't just seamlessly move something from evolution on one box to evolution on the other - both the same version afaik tell, too. Must be other inexperienced lusers who will hit similar problems ... any "instructions" or pointers anyone can give? A How-to anywhere? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ktorrent killing the ethernet connection??
On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 11:32 +0200, Alexander Grujic wrote: > He is talking about capping your _upload_ speed, not your _download_ speed. > adsl is usually assymetric and you will have much less upload bandwith then > the 2mbit. > > So you have to limit upload to approx 80% of your available speed in order > not > to chocke your line. > That's what I did - downed it to 5kbps as well and still seemed to lock up the ports. In the end and ftp's cd and dvd iso's off a mirror in just on 11 hours... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 0.5kbps bittorrent on a 2mb adsl!!???
On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 22:37 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: > Oh no. Linux is keeping you young, and OpenSUSE even can make younger. > > SUSE people, please tell this your marketing team. ;-)) > Hmmm ... Suse Linux: Viagra for Bits. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 0.5kbps bittorrent on a 2mb adsl!!???
On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 12:16 -0400, Joan Manuel Ventura Felix wrote: > excuse my bad english. Damn sight better than my Spanish, French, German or anything else except a bit of West Sussex dialect, so stop apologising! Us anglophones are notoriously bad at learning other languages so can't complain. Blame the Americans and their mindrotting media... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ktorrent killing the ethernet connection??
On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 20:58 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 18 Oct 2005, M.Blackmore wrote: > > What's more it seems to kill the ethernet connection to the firewall, > > which I can only bring up again by rebooting the smoothie box or the > > suse 9.3 box. > > Maybe you are bound by not reducing the upload rate to 80% of your line > capacity? I've fiddled with that in the ktorrent config drop down menu - set it to something like 20kbps max, which on a 2mbit adsl connection (which is supposed to be theoretically what per second? I seldom get more than about 170kbps on it) seems like well under 80%... Unless you are referring the actual download speed? If that is a princely 1.0kbps, then should I limit the upload to o.25kbps? Somehow I can't imagine that being the case... I've opened the relevant port using YAST, although that didn't make any difference. It was uploading quite well before that, though. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Ktorrent killing the ethernet connection??
Anyone else having this problem? When running ktorrent (to get 10.00GM. Seems a fat chance of that succeeding so far...) I'm getting download speeds of the 0.5kbps to 1.0kbps level, and then after about 3-4mb it stalls. What's more it seems to kill the ethernet connection to the firewall, which I can only bring up again by rebooting the smoothie box or the suse 9.3 box. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 0.5kbps bittorrent on a 2mb adsl!!???
This can't be right. I've used the bittorrent file from a mirror (ftp.gwdg.de) to start ktorrent downloading the 10.0 cd iso's. My download speed is about 0.5bps What could be wrong? Is the torrent file from a ftp site "linked" to that site? I can't believe that 'cos at the moment there seem to be 62 other peers... The upload is going faster than the download by about 50 times. So it spends a lot of time doing nowt until a bit of a backlog has been built up and then whoosh, and then waits again. Something must be amiss - I can't believe its THAT slow...! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Command line torrent downloader to get 10.x for suse 9.3?
Thought I'd try and give a bit back :-) whilst downloading 10.0 but the PC I want to download using a torrent is non-gui (a "fileserver" of a sort) and would creak rather (well, very very) badly if I fired up a gui. If I could get one to load in the resources available at all... Is bittorrent a command line option or is it only under x? Is there anything else that is reliable? And, incidentally, how does one call it (bittorrent)? I installed it from a downloaded rpm using Yast but it hasn't shewn on any menu and wasn't exactly forthcoming with telling me what to type in using either alt-f2 or from a shell Don't assume much knowledge!!! Cheers - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sound not available when a new user session started
On Sun, 2005-10-02 at 15:44 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Am Sonntag, 2. Oktober 2005 13:19 schrieb Guðlaugur Jóhannesson: > > M.Blackmore wrote: > > > On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 22:31 +, Guðlaugur Jóhannesson wrote: > > >>There is a file called logindevperm in ..change the > > >> permissions on /dev/dsp to 0660. > > ... this is the header for my file and an example > > line > > ... > > :0 0600 /dev/cdrom:/dev/cdrom1:/dev/cdrom2:/dev/cdrom3 > > This is for display ":0" on tty7. If you have a second login on display > But that means they use the device exclusively. Better is: > :0 0660 /dev/cdrom:/dev/cdrom1:/dev/cdrom2:/dev/cdrom3 > :1 0660 /dev/cdrom:/dev/cdrom1:/dev/cdrom2:/dev/cdrom3 Thanks Gudlauger, meister et al. I've tried changing the thing to 0660 but no joy on the sound front. I'm confused by meister's comments: is this telling me that the first user (normal xwindows first "bootup" is :0 for a sound device, and that the second user (from the switch user menu option, who resideth henceforth on ctrl-alt-f8) is :1? And for each subsequent user this should increment - :2 :3 ... ? > So they share the access to the device. (If it is a sound device: hold > yer horses...) Well, they won't be using them at the same time, the other session should just be lurking 'til ctr-alt-fx's back again. It's just convenient to bump the kids onto the switch user (or me to do email etc.) without one of logging off and then logging back on again. I'd just like to have sound in the second (or third!) switch option. Many thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sound not available when a new user session started
On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 22:31 +, Guðlaugur Jóhannesson wrote: > There is a file called logindevperms in /etc/ that changes permissions > for the various devices. You should change the permissions on /dev/dsp > to 0660. Alas, this does not appear to exist on my machine! I can create it, of course ... if so, what would be the syntax? But if not that name, there must be the same function somewhere ... where would it be? I realised though that I'm being thick about the version, on the machine in question which the kids use it is of course suse 9.3. I'd upgraded from clean to 9.3 on that one, and 10 on "my" box. Doh! The trouble with KVMs... But a quick check reveals same problem on both... Sorry for such basic questions. Since the kids were born I really haven't had time or energy to learn the guts of linux. (Don't let anyone on this no doubt very male populated list think being a housemum is a leisurely option mooching at home - as a housedad I can tell you its as hard, demanding of time, energy, and particularly emotional resource and endurance to nurture little ones, as the high pressure stuff I did over the previous 25 years!!) So my knowledge is luser level - if it don't work out of the box I'm baffled and often don't know where to start... Just the sort of person that linux collectively needs to be catering for in one part of its efforts to conquer the world - as well as the highly technical applications which someone like me rightly leaves to those who need it, with the knowledge to implement. But if it don't work out of the box for "us" then something isn't quite right with the "product"!! The job of you tekkies is to put it "right", eh! Forums like this expose you to the sorts of trivial problems that those with little technical knowledge or time to fiddle have, that stop us dead in the water- things that the cognoscenti don't even stop to think about anymore and have probably forgotten they once never knew... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Sound not available when a new user session started
If one switches user (the alt-ctrl-f7 or f8 switch trick) the second user doesn't seem to have any sound capability at all. Quite a pain when the kids want to play something! How does one make the sound work in the second, third etc. user session (under xwindows/kde)? If it is possible at all, of course. Many thanks. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] This is silly but ... where's the sound volume icon gone from bottom bar?
On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 21:29 +, Guðlaugur Jóhannesson wrote: > The program is called kmix, start it again and you will have your volume > control. It is in the multimedia -> volume control section of the > "start" menu. > Thanks Gudlaugur and Chahibi and Doh! As the Americans say (or was that Homer?). I'd pored through menus and somehow managed to miss that. Then my wife always complains about my ability not to find things around the house, so that's not too surprising... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] This is silly but ... where's the sound volume icon gone from bottom bar?
OK, I know I know, but I'm not very knowledgeable... the sound volume icon has disappeared from the bottom right hand side of the bar, so I and the kids can't adjust sound levels easily. How do I put it back? Sorry... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
