[opensuse] ATI driver problems - continued

2007-05-12 Thread Jim Flanagan
This is an updated post on problem getting the new ATI driver to work. I
can get to KDE, but there are things still broken.

What I've done so far:
1. Installed the new ATI driver rpm (v. 8.35.5) thru YAST sources, got
black screen, uninstalled.
2. Followed instructions at  http://en.opensuse.org/ATI, made rpm,
installed, got black screen.
3. Followed trouble shooting at the ATI page, never got past black screen.
4. Uninstalled the rpm.
5. I now have KDE, but my screensaver will not start.

I see many others having problems with the ATI driver, some on this
list, many others thru searching google.

At this point I'd like to get back to my original defalult KDE/xorg
install. I will try the ATI driver agian later, but for now I'd like to
get back to the original install. How do I do this?

Running glxinfo returns the following message, glxinfo: symbol lookup
error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmCloseOnce

Running openSUSE 10.2, radeon 9800 pro.

Thanks for any assistance.

Jim Flanagan

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Re: [opensuse] ATI driver problems - continued

2007-05-12 Thread Jim Flanagan
Jim Flanagan wrote:
 This is an updated post on problem getting the new ATI driver to work. I
 can get to KDE, but there are things still broken.


 Running glxinfo returns the following message, glxinfo: symbol lookup
 error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmCloseOnce

   
Another issue is that clicking on My Computer on the desktop is broken
as well. The window opens and shows...
  An error occurred while loading sysinfo:/:
Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
 klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_sysinfo'.

How do I restore my previous X and KDE setup?

thanks,

Jim Flanagan
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Re: [opensuse] ATI driver problems - continued

2007-05-12 Thread M Harris
On Saturday 12 May 2007 08:57, Jim Flanagan wrote:
 At this point I'd like to get back to my original defalult KDE/xorg
 install. I will try the ATI driver agian later, but for now I'd like to
 get back to the original install. How do I do this?
This is really easy...

... put the machine in runlevel 3:

sudo init 3

runsax2 -r

 or sax2 -r -m 0=radeon

Sax will rebuild your install  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file.

(or)
If this is the card you installed the machine with, then you probably 
still 
have a file  called   /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install you might try using that 
by linking to it in /etc/X11

cd /etc/X11as root

rm  xorg.conf
ln -sf xorg.conf.install xorg.conf




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Re: [opensuse] ATI driver problems - continued

2007-05-12 Thread Jim Flanagan
M Harris wrote:
 On Saturday 12 May 2007 08:57, Jim Flanagan wrote:
   
 At this point I'd like to get back to my original defalult KDE/xorg
 install. I will try the ATI driver agian later, but for now I'd like to
 get back to the original install. How do I do this?
 
   This is really easy...

   ... put the machine in runlevel 3:

   sudo init 3

   runsax2 -r

or sax2 -r -m 0=radeon

   Sax will rebuild your install  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file.

 (or)
   If this is the card you installed the machine with, then you probably 
 still 
 have a file  called   /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install you might try using that 
 by linking to it in /etc/X11

   cd /etc/X11as root

   rm  xorg.conf
   ln -sf xorg.conf.install xorg.conf




   
Hi Mike,

I did the sax2 -r -m 0=radeon

The test screen in sax did not look too good, but it was readable. Got
back up to runlevel 5 OK, but screensaver will not run, nor will glxinfo
or glxgears.

I have not tried your last method yet. Tha ~install file is in
/etc/X11/. Why would I use ln instead of just cp xorg.config.install
xorg.config?

Jim F
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Re: [opensuse] ATI driver problems - continued

2007-05-12 Thread M Harris
On Saturday 12 May 2007 08:57, Jim Flanagan wrote:
 Running openSUSE 10.2, radeon 9800 pro.

 Thanks for any assistance.
... and another thing...

... did you try running   aticonfig  --initial

??

The instructions change for suse 10.2 and on... previous to 10.2 you 
run:

aticonfig  --initial  --input=/blah/blah/... profile

... but on 10.2 you do not need the profile.

Also, when you built the driver did you receive any errors or warnings 
about 
symbols not being resolved?   The kernel sources may not be installed 
correctly or completely, or you may need to  copy the kernel config to the 
sources tree and then run   make dep  to get the dependencies right.   Also, 
take a look in  /var/log/Xorg.log   to see if there are any clues...

My experience so far with the radeon card and the fglrx driver:

So far its been a PITA and very flaky. My kernel kept crashing on my 
boys 
machine...  anywhere from 10 to 30 minutes of use down she goes... no hits, 
no runs, no error messages, no panic... just dead.  (very unLinux like).  I 
have now set my AGP bios settings down to 4x ,  64M apature,  fastwrite off, 
and things seem to be stable now.  I still get a double X server running 
even though I'm configured for one head, and only have one card/monitor. And 
two of the games which ship with openSUSE 10 do not play ...   Amazon Queen, 
and Steel Blue SKy... both cause the monitor to blank... turn grey... with 
streaks... not good.   All other 3D stuff works well, and for the most part 
we're happy... but I have to be honest... this is my very last ATI card, 
period.

What we need is a 3D hardware standard with open drivers period. (ok, 
I'll 
spare you the rant)

Good luck with your card.



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Re: [opensuse] ATI driver problems - continued

2007-05-12 Thread M Harris
On Saturday 12 May 2007 22:25, Jim Flanagan wrote:
 I have not tried your last method yet. Tha ~install file is in
 /etc/X11/. Why would I use ln instead of just cp xorg.config.install
 xorg.config?
Sorry... forgot to tell you...

... I have several xorg.conf files... like this:

xorg.conf.install
xorg.conf.radeon
xorg.conf.fglrx
xorg.conf.640x480

And, I have a script that I run in a wrapper when I  startx  (from 
runlevel3) 
that selects the xorg.conf file (driver) I need based on what I'm going to 
do.  For text processing I use the radeon driver... more stable... one X 
server... and I don't need 3D.  For 3D the fglrx xorg.conf file is what is 
needed...the script takes the choice input and then links forinstance:

ln -sf xorg.conf.fglrx  xorg.conf

... creates a symbolic link in /etc/X11 that looks like this:

xorg.conf -- xorg.conf.fglrx


Its just a personal preference... I like symbolic links, and I make 
heavy use 
of them too.



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Re: [opensuse] ATI driver problems - continued

2007-05-12 Thread Jim Flanagan
M Harris wrote:
 On Saturday 12 May 2007 08:57, Jim Flanagan wrote:
   
 Running openSUSE 10.2, radeon 9800 pro.

 Thanks for any assistance.
 
   ... and another thing...

   ... did you try running   aticonfig  --initial

   ??

   The instructions change for suse 10.2 and on... previous to 10.2 you 
 run:

   aticonfig  --initial  --input=/blah/blah/... profile

   ... but on 10.2 you do not need the profile.

   
I did run aticonfig --initial --input=blah...  earlier when trying
to install the ATI driver.
   Also, when you built the driver did you receive any errors or warnings 
 about 
 symbols not being resolved?   The kernel sources may not be installed 
 correctly or completely, or you may need to  copy the kernel config to the 
 sources tree and then run   make dep  to get the dependencies right.   Also, 
 take a look in  /var/log/Xorg.log   to see if there are any clues...
   
I did not see any errors when building the rpm. But I have since
uninstalled that rpm. xorg.log does not show any (EE) errors, but there
are a number of warnings, such as (WW) The directory
/usr/share/fonts/local does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.

I'm not familiar at all with kernel config and source tree. But will try
your last method, ln .. and see if that works.
   My experience so far with the radeon card and the fglrx driver:

   So far its been a PITA and very flaky. My kernel kept crashing on my 
 boys 
 machine...  anywhere from 10 to 30 minutes of use down she goes... no hits, 
 no runs, no error messages, no panic... just dead.  (very unLinux like).  I 
 have now set my AGP bios settings down to 4x ,  64M apature,  fastwrite off, 
 and things seem to be stable now.  I still get a double X server running 
 even though I'm configured for one head, and only have one card/monitor. And 
 two of the games which ship with openSUSE 10 do not play ...   Amazon Queen, 
 and Steel Blue SKy... both cause the monitor to blank... turn grey... with 
 streaks... not good.   All other 3D stuff works well, and for the most part 
 we're happy... but I have to be honest... this is my very last ATI card, 
 period.

   What we need is a 3D hardware standard with open drivers period. (ok, 
 I'll 
 spare you the rant)

   Good luck with your card.



   
At this point I have pretty much given up trying to get the ATI driver
working. At least the current version. I had hoped the new one would
have solved the problems many had in the past. It didn't for me. As far
as the rant goes, I'm with you on that one. ATI video cards and Linux
don't mix.

Many thanks,

Jim F
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