[opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Stevens]

It's been a while since I wanted to do this, but what's the 
best way to convert a WAV file to .mp3? FYI, am running 
Suse 10.2.
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Stevens wrote:
> It's been a while since I wanted to do this, but what's the
> best way to convert a WAV file to .mp3? FYI, am running
> Suse 10.2.

man sox

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Clayton]

> It's been a while since I wanted to do this, but what's the
> best way to convert a WAV file to .mp3? FYI, am running
> Suse 10.2.

man sox


A while back I used to have a 'plug-in' for Konqueror.  I could
right-click on any audio file, and convert it to pretty much any other
format.  Beats using sox any day for people who are intimidated by the
command line and sox's "grotty" command line options.  For the life of
me I cannot find the Konqueror component, or remember what it was
called.  Anyone know the one I'm talking about?  It is a more
new-user-friendly solution than sox at the CLI.

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Clayton wrote:

> Beats using sox any day for people who are intimidated by the
> command line and sox's "grotty" command line options.  For the life of
> me I cannot find the Konqueror component, or remember what it was
> called.  Anyone know the one I'm talking about?  It is a more
> new-user-friendly solution than sox at the CLI.


Are you sure you were not talking about the 
Audio Cd Browser in Kong?  It converted the opposite
direction.

You probably got that word grotty right out of the man page.

Odd that the very next sentence after the word grotty shows that the syntax by 
default is extension driven for output files, and the simple command
   sox   file.mp3 file.wav
is all you really need.  I'm not sure it can get a lot simpler.

And converting a 3meg mp3 to a 35 meg wav took mere seconds on this
clunk of a machine I use for email.  File growth is to be expected in this
type of conversion.  

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[jdd]

John Andersen wrote:

On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Stevens wrote:

It's been a while since I wanted to do this, but what's the
best way to convert a WAV file to .mp3? FYI, am running
Suse 10.2.


man sox


why not simply use lame?

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Clayton]

Are you sure you were not talking about the
Audio Cd Browser in Kong?  It converted the opposite
direction.


Nope, definitely not that.  This was an extension to Konq that added a
component to the right-click menu.  Convert Audio or something like
that and when you went to the submenu you were presented a list of
possible formats... so if it was a WAV, you would get MP3, OGG etc. as
choices.  I got it out of the SUSE 3rd party repositories... around
the 10.0 time frame.  Haven't seen it since or looked that hard for it
since then.



You probably got that word grotty right out of the man page.


Yup :-)  I don't mind CLI and sox is fine with me when I need
something and feel like using the CLI.  I was just thinking about a
solution a new user... someone who may simply not understand what man
sox means, and who is intimidated by command line stuff...

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[michael norman]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 09:27:47 Clayton wrote:
> > Are you sure you were not talking about the
> > Audio Cd Browser in Kong?  It converted the opposite
> > direction.
>
> Nope, definitely not that.  This was an extension to Konq that added a
> component to the right-click menu.  Convert Audio or something like
> that and when you went to the submenu you were presented a list of
> possible formats... so if it was a WAV, you would get MP3, OGG etc. as
> choices.  I got it out of the SUSE 3rd party repositories... around
> the 10.0 time frame.  Haven't seen it since or looked that hard for it
> since then.
>
> > You probably got that word grotty right out of the man page.
>
> Yup :-)  I don't mind CLI and sox is fine with me when I need
> something and feel like using the CLI.  I was just thinking about a
> solution a new user... someone who may simply not understand what man
> sox means, and who is intimidated by command line stuff...
>
> C.

I use audiokonverter, a KDE app.

http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12608.  When its installed 
you just right click on the file in Konqueror and it give you all sorts of 
options, including conversion to mp3.
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[zoran]

What is lame? I have a same problem, more input needed, please.




THX
Zoran

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 10:21, jdd Schreef:
> John Andersen wrote:
> > On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Stevens wrote:
> >> It's been a while since I wanted to do this, but what's the
> >> best way to convert a WAV file to .mp3? FYI, am running
> >> Suse 10.2.
> >
> > man sox
>
> why not simply use lame?
>
> jdd
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Clayton]

I use audiokonverter, a KDE app.

http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12608.  When its installed
you just right click on the file in Konqueror and it give you all sorts of
options, including conversion to mp3.


That's the app I used to use.  It is very handy... and very easy to
use.  Works great for the average format conversion requirements.

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[jdd]

zoran wrote:


What is lame? I have a same problem, more input needed, please.


lame is the mp3 utility that do the real conversion. It have a library 
but also a binary


yast->search lame->install (CLI)

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Kevin Donnelly]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 09:50, michael norman wrote:
> I use audiokonverter, a KDE app.

Soundconverter is also good, with a nice GUI - it's available on Packman.

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Randall R Schulz]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 01:55, zoran wrote:
> What is lame? I have a same problem, more input needed, please.

LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder.

Except that it is, now. The name describes it's original status as a 
executive program that didn't actually perform the MP3 encoding it does 
now.

Man lame, of course. On my 10.0 installation it comes from package 
lame-3.96.1-2. On my 10.2 system, it's lame-3.97-1. You can find it in 
the Packman repository (a primary repository for SuSE users to find 
media-related packages, of course).


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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[James Knott]

Randall R Schulz wrote:

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 01:55, zoran wrote:
  

What is lame? I have a same problem, more input needed, please.



LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder.

  


That's a lame excuse.  ;-)


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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Randall R Schulz]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 08:01, James Knott wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > On Wednesday 18 April 2007 01:55, zoran wrote:
> >> What is lame? I have a same problem, more input needed, please.
> >
> > LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder.
>
> That's a lame excuse.  ;-)

Names are hard!

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[jdd]

Randall R Schulz wrote:

the Packman repository (a primary repository for SuSE users to find 
media-related packages, of course).


we have to quote here, because it can't be done on the wiki for legal 
reasons, than at least "packman" and "guru" repositories are perfectly 
trustable ones and even mandatory ones for most users.


I knox than on the beginning, users don't like to add non official 
repos, here they are wrong :-))


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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Richard Bos]

Op Wednesday 18 April 2007 03:44:43 schreef Stevens:
> It's been a while since I wanted to do this, but what's the
> best way to convert a WAV file to .mp3? FYI, am running
> Suse 10.2.

konqueror and type in its location bar:
audiocd:/
This provides a virtual file system to many different audio formats.

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Kai Ponte]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 08:01:34 am James Knott wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > On Wednesday 18 April 2007 01:55, zoran wrote:
> >> What is lame? I have a same problem, more input needed, please.
> >
> > LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder.
>
> That's a lame excuse.  ;-)
>

IIRC, the name was (a) a play on words similar to GNU in that it is a 
recursive acronym and (b) specifically directed at Frauenhofer telling them 
it does not violate any of their so-called patents.


In fact, come to think of it GNU does the same thing - Gnu is Not Unix.

lol - forgot about that one!

...and here we are at the County running in-house software called

Your Online Document Archive, Visual Analysis Definition Extraction Repository 
and we just came up with Job Expendedure Download Information. 


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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[David Brodbeck]

Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 April 2007 01:55, zoran wrote:
>   
>> What is lame? I have a same problem, more input needed, please.
>> 
>
> LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder.
>
> Except that it is, now. The name describes it's original status as a 
> executive program that didn't actually perform the MP3 encoding it does 
> now.
>   

"Following the great history of GNU naming, LAME originally stood for 
LAME Ain't an Mp3 Encoder. LAME started life as a GPL'd patch against
the dist10 ISO demonstration source, and thus was incapable of producing
an mp3 stream or even being compiled by itself." (from
http://lame.sourceforge.net/about.php)

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[John Andersen]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007, Clayton wrote:
> someone who may simply not understand what man
> sox means, and who is intimidated by command line stuff...

Well the sooner we cure them of that, the better.  ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[James Knott]

John Andersen wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 April 2007, Clayton wrote:
>   
>> someone who may simply not understand what man
>> sox means, and who is intimidated by command line stuff...
>> 
>
> Well the sooner we cure them of that, the better.  ;-)
>
>   
I tried sox yesterday and it never completed converting a wav to mp3.  I
started it before I left for work and when I came home it was still
"running".  Lame, on the other hand, completed the conversion in a
minute or two.


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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Stevens]

> On Wednesday 18 April 2007, Clayton wrote:
> > someone who may simply not understand what man
> > sox means, and who is intimidated by command line stuff...
>

I guess those are garments that go on feet and are more
masculine than women sox ;-)

Well, DUH! This IS a linux list, ain't it? If someone doesn't
know about the man command by the time he/she gets here,
then there is always "Linux for Dummies" at Amazon.com.

I appreciated the terse "man sox" reply. That was the first
time I ever heard of sox and it worked to convert my .wav
file to .mp3, just like I wanted it to do. It's such a simple tool.

As a footnote, the .wav file was a conversion of a song (free,
no copyright) that I thought was an mp3 file but when it saved,
it was a .wav file. The .wav file was about 13MB. After sox,
the .mp3 is around 1.5MB (or so). The same file, downloaded
via Firefox and saved to my relative's Winders box is about
3MB. Not sure why, don't really care, but mine sounds as
good and takes up half the space. Score another for the penguin.

Thanks,
Fred

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Clayton]

Well, DUH! This IS a linux list, ain't it? If someone doesn't
know about the man command by the time he/she gets here,
then there is always "Linux for Dummies" at Amazon.com.


:-)  I spend a lot of time helping out new users who are just making
their first jump into Linux.  There seem to be a LOT lately.  The vast
majority are not so ready to jump into the CLI with both feet and a
couple arms.  Ha... so I've been thinking in terms of that level  :-)
I'm always looking for ways I can ease people into Linux a little
slower... GUI solutions etc.

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Stevens]

On Thursday 19 April 2007 16:15, Clayton wrote:
>  I spend a lot of time helping out new users who are just making
> their first jump into Linux.  There seem to be a LOT lately.  The vast
> majority are not so ready to jump into the CLI with both feet and a
> couple arms.  Ha... so I've been thinking in terms of that level  :-)
> I'm always looking for ways I can ease people into Linux a little
> slower... GUI solutions etc.
>

Just tell them that, unlike Windows, Linux comes with a complete 
manual for all of it's commands (well, most of them). The fact that
most recent Windows users or other uninitiated won't be able to
decipher the cryptic meanings without a book (manual) is beside
the point.

Personally, I prefer a gui to cli since I am basically lazy and would
rather point-n-click than lean over and open a terminal window and
type, then wonder what I forgot to enter when it doesn't work right.

Am I glad the "CLI Forever" types have been losing the war.

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[John Andersen]

On Thursday 19 April 2007, Stevens wrote:
> Well, DUH! This IS a linux list, ain't it? If someone doesn't
> know about the man command by the time he/she gets here,
> then there is always "Linux for Dummies" at Amazon.com.

either that or 
   man man


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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Clayton]

Just tell them that, unlike Windows, Linux comes with a complete
manual for all of it's commands (well, most of them). The fact that
most recent Windows users or other uninitiated won't be able to
decipher the cryptic meanings without a book (manual) is beside
the point.


We were just discussing this point at work yesterday.  The point was
that Microsoft made a conscious decision not to release detailed
manuals for the new Office 2007 or whatever it's called... you know,
the one with the annoying ribbon thing.  OpenOffice.org on the other
hand is doing what they can to try and make documentation more
accessible... rolling out documentation wikis ect.  People complain
about lack of documentation in Linux, and in the past that was very
real, but I think the proverbial tide has turned... documentation is
better in Linux related apps now :-)

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

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Stevens wrote:
> On Thursday 19 April 2007 16:15, Clayton wrote:
>   
>>  
> Personally, I prefer a gui to cli since I am basically lazy and would
> rather point-n-click than lean over and open a terminal window and
> type, then wonder what I forgot to enter when it doesn't work right.
>
> Am I glad the "CLI Forever" types have been losing the war.
>   
What war!? The command line is useful for some things and GUI interfaces
for others. It is more a matter of identifying which tool is best for
the job in hand.

GUIs are constrained in the complexity and type of tasks that can
usefully performed with them, mainly because they are both syntactically
and  sequentially limited, or to put it another way you can write a
short sentence, but there is problem in putting together a paragraph.

The command line interface in the *nix world not only allow build such
paragraphs, but reuse those paragraph with the command history. In some
ways one can be more lazy with the command line than with a gui when you
know what you are doing :-)



> Fred
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[Clayton]

paragraphs, but reuse those paragraph with the command history. In some
ways one can be more lazy with the command line than with a gui when you
know what you are doing :-)


Ahh... if only I could get the new user's minds around Tab complete
(even though it's there in Microsoft as well, they've never discovered
it) and up arrow to the previous command :-P  Instead they laboriously
retype the commands or type in long paths... and typos are
inevitable... sigh.

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[James Knott]

John Andersen wrote:
> On Thursday 19 April 2007, Stevens wrote:
>   
>> Well, DUH! This IS a linux list, ain't it? If someone doesn't
>> know about the man command by the time he/she gets here,
>> then there is always "Linux for Dummies" at Amazon.com.
>> 
>
> either that or 
>man man
>
>
>   
Or man rtfm.  ;-)

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>> Or man rtfm.  ;-)
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[jdd]

James Knott wrote:


Or man rtfm.  ;-)


man rtfm
Aucune entrée de manuel pour rtfm

(in english: no manual entry for RTFM)

:-)

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[David Brodbeck]

Clayton wrote:
> Ahh... if only I could get the new user's minds around Tab complete
> (even though it's there in Microsoft as well, they've never discovered
> it) and up arrow to the previous command :-P  Instead they laboriously
> retype the commands or type in long paths... and typos are
> inevitable... sigh.

I remember being annoyed when Windows 95 came out and they took away all
the nice command history features that were in DOS 6.22.

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[James Knott]

Clayton wrote:

paragraphs, but reuse those paragraph with the command history. In some
ways one can be more lazy with the command line than with a gui when you
know what you are doing :-)


Ahh... if only I could get the new user's minds around Tab complete
(even though it's there in Microsoft as well, they've never discovered
it) and up arrow to the previous command :-P  Instead they laboriously
retype the commands or type in long paths... and typos are
inevitable... sigh.

C.

How do you do command completion in XP???


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[James Knott]

David Brodbeck wrote:

Clayton wrote:
  

Ahh... if only I could get the new user's minds around Tab complete
(even though it's there in Microsoft as well, they've never discovered
it) and up arrow to the previous command :-P  Instead they laboriously
retype the commands or type in long paths... and typos are
inevitable... sigh.



I remember being annoyed when Windows 95 came out and they took away all
the nice command history features that were in DOS 6.22.

  

All you have to do is run DOSKEY.

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Clayton]

How do you do command completion in XP???


Should be on by default in any Command window.  Start > Run > cmd
When the window opens click the top left corner to open the window
menu.  Select Defaults.  It's a checkbox there.

Of course Microsoft munged the tab complete thing HORRIBLY as usual,
but it is there... and it sorta works... ish.. kinda...


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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Randall R Schulz]

On Friday 20 April 2007 13:10, James Knott wrote:
> Clayton wrote:
> >> paragraphs, but reuse those paragraph with the command history. In
> >> some ways one can be more lazy with the command line than with a
> >> gui when you know what you are doing :-)
> >
> > Ahh... if only I could get the new user's minds around Tab complete
> > (even though it's there in Microsoft as well, they've never
> > discovered it) and up arrow to the previous command :-P  Instead
> > they laboriously retype the commands or type in long paths... and
> > typos are inevitable... sigh.
> >
> > C.
>
> How do you do command completion in XP???

Hit tab. You may need to enable it using one of the various "tweaker" 
tools (or, if you're really a hardcore Windows hacker, edit the 
registry). In X-Setup Pro (), it's Program 
Options -> Built-In Windows Apps -> Command Prompt -> CMD Directory 
AutoComplete Key and ... -> CMD File AutoComplete Key.


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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[James Knott]

Clayton wrote:
>> How do you do command completion in XP???
>
> Should be on by default in any Command window.  Start > Run > cmd
> When the window opens click the top left corner to open the window
> menu.  Select Defaults.  It's a checkbox there.
>
> Of course Microsoft munged the tab complete thing HORRIBLY as usual,
> but it is there... and it sorta works... ish.. kinda...
>
>
> C.
One thing I hate is the totally screwed up command history.  You don't
know if you have to scroll up or down!  How could MS mess up something
so simple???


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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Randall R Schulz]

On Friday 20 April 2007 14:26, James Knott wrote:
> ...
>
> One thing I hate is the totally screwed up command history.  You
> don't know if you have to scroll up or down!  How could MS mess up
> something so simple???

It's an art!


RRS
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Teruel de Campo MD]

Hey guy

What all this has to do with "Best way to convert wav to mp3". We have
to make an effort to stay with the subject of the thread. This makes
searching in the future easier. If the thread stimulates another topic
great just a small line saying that we will continue in "xx" subject and
there we go.

Have all of you a good weekend!

-=terry(Denver)=-

On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 14:51 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Friday 20 April 2007 14:26, James Knott wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > One thing I hate is the totally screwed up command history.  You
> > don't know if you have to scroll up or down!  How could MS mess up
> > something so simple???
> 
> It's an art!
> 
> 
> RRS

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Randall R Schulz]

On Friday 20 April 2007 14:48, Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
> Hey guy
>
> What all this has to do with "Best way to convert wav to mp3". We
> have to make an effort to stay with the subject of the thread. This
> makes searching in the future easier.

How so? Each message in the archive has a separate URL and indexers such 
as Google won't return pages whose content is irrelevant to the query.


> ...
>
> Have all of you a good weekend!

I shall try.


> -=terry(Denver)=-


Randall Schulz
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Theo v. Werkhoven]

Fri, 20 Apr 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> Clayton wrote:
> >> How do you do command completion in XP???
> >
> > Should be on by default in any Command window.  Start > Run > cmd
> > When the window opens click the top left corner to open the window
> > menu.  Select Defaults.  It's a checkbox there.
> >
> > Of course Microsoft munged the tab complete thing HORRIBLY as usual,
> > but it is there... and it sorta works... ish.. kinda...
> >
> >
> > C.
> One thing I hate is the totally screwed up command history.  You don't
> know if you have to scroll up or down!  How could MS mess up something
> so simple???

If no one of the testers cares, and if only a tiny percentage of the
users actually use the cmd box for anything serious (unlike what
"we" do), then I can easily see how these things gets messed up.

If something would get screwed up in Bash, or any other shell, I
assure you that the problem would be solved in a day, if not sooner.

Theo
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