Stop it! (was Re: [opensuse] Counter needed)

2007-09-14 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi,

this thread stops right here. It seems you cant get your act together and
keep insulting each other in this kindergarten fashion. 

I will not tollerate any of this on the list anymore. Everybody who
does so gets booted immediately.

This warning goes especially to Aaron and Marcio but is valid for
everybody.

Henne

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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-14 Thread Druid
By the way, I was supposed to be out of any lists, as the idiot
promised. Oh, seems it didnt quite work, eh...

doh, kids pretending to be haxxorz...

On 9/14/07, Druid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/14/07, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > > * Kai Ponte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-11-07 15:01]:
> > >
> > >> On Tuesday 11 September 2007 11:14, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > >>
> >  A quick google reveals that you behave like this all over the
> >  internet. It really isn't very nice
> > 
> > >>> Only towards idiots.
> > >>>
> > >> Aaron - I see you're a COLA regular. 11K posts in November 2000?  What -
> > >> someone using your nym?
> > >>
> > >> Or were you going for a netkook award?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > Or perhaps the earlier accusation of mail bombing was true?
> > >
> > >
> > Now you're being silly.
>
> It is true. Too bad Aaron is a clueless newbie wannabe...
>
> Should be excluded from the internet. But we dont have a thing like a
> driver license for the internet. Unfortunately.
>
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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-14 Thread Druid
On 9/14/07, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Kai Ponte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-11-07 15:01]:
> >
> >> On Tuesday 11 September 2007 11:14, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >>
>  A quick google reveals that you behave like this all over the
>  internet. It really isn't very nice
> 
> >>> Only towards idiots.
> >>>
> >> Aaron - I see you're a COLA regular. 11K posts in November 2000?  What -
> >> someone using your nym?
> >>
> >> Or were you going for a netkook award?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Or perhaps the earlier accusation of mail bombing was true?
> >
> >
> Now you're being silly.

It is true. Too bad Aaron is a clueless newbie wannabe...

Should be excluded from the internet. But we dont have a thing like a
driver license for the internet. Unfortunately.

Marcio
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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-13 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Kai Ponte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-11-07 15:01]:
  

On Tuesday 11 September 2007 11:14, Aaron Kulkis wrote:


A quick google reveals that you behave like this all over the
internet. It really isn't very nice


Only towards idiots.
  
Aaron - I see you're a COLA regular. 11K posts in November 2000?  What - 
someone using your nym?


Or were you going for a netkook award?





Or perhaps the earlier accusation of mail bombing was true?

  

Now you're being silly.

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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Kai Ponte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-11-07 15:01]:
> On Tuesday 11 September 2007 11:14, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > > A quick google reveals that you behave like this all over the
> > > internet. It really isn't very nice
> >
> > Only towards idiots.
> 
> 
> Aaron - I see you're a COLA regular. 11K posts in November 2000?  What - 
> someone using your nym?
> 
> Or were you going for a netkook award?
> 


Or perhaps the earlier accusation of mail bombing was true?

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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-11 Thread Kai Ponte
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 11:14, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > A quick google reveals that you behave like this all over the
> > internet. It really isn't very nice
>
> Only towards idiots.


Aaron - I see you're a COLA regular. 11K posts in November 2000?  What - 
someone using your nym?

Or were you going for a netkook award?


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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-11 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Anders Johansson wrote:

On Wednesday 05 September 2007 14:00:21 Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Jerry Houston wrote:

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Linux is not Windows, so kindly quit offering solutions which are most
appropriate for that horrific abortion of an O/S.

Responses like this make the writer appear to be very young, or very
inexperienced with computers, or both.

I've been programming since 1980.

I'm more than familiar with more than half a dozen distinct operating
sytems (and that's counting ALL of Linux and Unix as ONE O/S).

I've written operating systems, including a multi-user, multi-tasking
one on a mere 8-bit 6809...

And your point is?


I don't know about his point, but my point is that if the above is 
really true, you really should spend less time behaving like a 
sociopathic 8-year old


A quick google reveals that you behave like this all over the 
internet. It really isn't very nice



Only towards idiots.

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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-06 Thread David C. Rankin
Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> David C. Rankin wrote:
>> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>>> Jerry Houston wrote:
 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> Linux is not Windows, so kindly quit offering solutions which are most
> appropriate for that horrific abortion of an O/S.

 Responses like this make the writer appear to be very young, or very
 inexperienced with computers, or both.
>>> I've been programming since 1980.
>>>
>>> I'm more than familiar with more than half a dozen distinct operating
>>> sytems (and that's counting ALL of Linux and Unix as ONE O/S).
>>>
>>> I've written operating systems, including a multi-user, multi-tasking
>>> one on a mere 8-bit 6809...
>>>
>>> And your point is?
>>>
>>
>> De Cafe  maybe???
>>
>>
> 
> De Cafe?  I'm unfamiliar with that particular OS.
> 
> 

Nor myself, but its rumored to exist, however, the rumored performance
is less than stellar.


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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-05 Thread David C. Rankin
Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> Jerry Houston wrote:
>> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>>> Linux is not Windows, so kindly quit offering solutions which are most
>>> appropriate for that horrific abortion of an O/S.
>>
>>
>> Responses like this make the writer appear to be very young, or very
>> inexperienced with computers, or both.
> 
> I've been programming since 1980.
> 
> I'm more than familiar with more than half a dozen distinct operating
> sytems (and that's counting ALL of Linux and Unix as ONE O/S).
> 
> I've written operating systems, including a multi-user, multi-tasking
> one on a mere 8-bit 6809...
> 
> And your point is?
> 

De Cafe  maybe???


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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-05 Thread Pete Connolly
Anders Johansson wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 September 2007 14:00:21 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>   
>> Jerry Houston wrote:
>> 
>>> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>>>   
 Linux is not Windows, so kindly quit offering solutions which are most
 appropriate for that horrific abortion of an O/S.
 
>>> Responses like this make the writer appear to be very young, or very
>>> inexperienced with computers, or both.
>>>   
>> I've been programming since 1980.
>>
>> I'm more than familiar with more than half a dozen distinct operating
>> sytems (and that's counting ALL of Linux and Unix as ONE O/S).
>>
>> I've written operating systems, including a multi-user, multi-tasking
>> one on a mere 8-bit 6809...
>>
>> And your point is?
>> 
>
> I don't know about his point, but my point is that if the above is really 
> true, you really should spend less time behaving like a sociopathic 8-year 
> old
>
> A quick google reveals that you behave like this all over the internet. It 
> really isn't very nice
>   
Sometimes *it is better to be quiet and let people* *think* you are an
idiot than to open your mouth and prove it, as the old saying goes.

I stay quiet a lot :)

Cheers

Pete



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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-05 Thread Anders Johansson
On Wednesday 05 September 2007 14:00:21 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> Jerry Houston wrote:
> > Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >> Linux is not Windows, so kindly quit offering solutions which are most
> >> appropriate for that horrific abortion of an O/S.
> >
> > Responses like this make the writer appear to be very young, or very
> > inexperienced with computers, or both.
>
> I've been programming since 1980.
>
> I'm more than familiar with more than half a dozen distinct operating
> sytems (and that's counting ALL of Linux and Unix as ONE O/S).
>
> I've written operating systems, including a multi-user, multi-tasking
> one on a mere 8-bit 6809...
>
> And your point is?

I don't know about his point, but my point is that if the above is really 
true, you really should spend less time behaving like a sociopathic 8-year 
old

A quick google reveals that you behave like this all over the internet. It 
really isn't very nice
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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-05 Thread Mike
On Wednesday 05 September 2007 14:00, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> Jerry Houston wrote:
> > Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >> Linux is not Windows, so kindly quit offering solutions which are
> >> most appropriate for that horrific abortion of an O/S.
> >
> > Responses like this make the writer appear to be very young, or
> > very inexperienced with computers, or both.
>
> I've been programming since 1980.

We are supposed to be impressed?

> I'm more than familiar with more than half a dozen distinct operating
> sytems (and that's counting ALL of Linux and Unix as ONE O/S).

Again, we are supposed to be impressed?

> I've written operating systems, including a multi-user, multi-tasking
> one on a mere 8-bit 6809...

Gee,I guess we are supposed to be impressed.

> And your point is?

You sound like a jacka$$.. That's the point. Every response you made 
today was derogatory. Absolutely nothing constructive. Blah., blah, 
Bitch, bitch, bitch. 

Don't bother,  you made the kill file.
  
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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-05 Thread Rainer Brinkmann
On Weddnesday, 5. September 2007 12:55 Jerry Houston wrote:
> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > Linux is not Windows, so kindly quit offering solutions which are most
> > appropriate for that horrific abortion of an O/S.
>
> Responses like this make the writer appear to be very young, or very
> inexperienced with computers, or both.
Dear youngsters,
What do you do ??
Why do you disencourage any writer in this way?
He got a question and i think it is always ok to ask any question regarding 
openSuSE. So my question again: Why?

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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-05 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Jerry Houston wrote:

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Linux is not Windows, so kindly quit offering solutions which are most
appropriate for that horrific abortion of an O/S.



Responses like this make the writer appear to be very young, or very
inexperienced with computers, or both.


I've been programming since 1980.

I'm more than familiar with more than half a dozen distinct operating
sytems (and that's counting ALL of Linux and Unix as ONE O/S).

I've written operating systems, including a multi-user, multi-tasking
one on a mere 8-bit 6809...

And your point is?

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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-05 Thread Jerry Houston
Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> 
> Linux is not Windows, so kindly quit offering solutions which are most
> appropriate for that horrific abortion of an O/S.


Responses like this make the writer appear to be very young, or very
inexperienced with computers, or both.
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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-04 Thread Aaron Kulkis

ken wrote:

Fri, 06 Jul 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 I need a simple program which counts the elapsed time starting from
a given point. Could you give some suggestions?


Another way would be to create one file at the start time and another at
the end time, then calculate the differences in the creation times, e.g.,

touch startfile
(time marches on)
touch finishfile

#output files' mod times in seconds since Epoch's begin; pipe to bc
echo $(stat -c %Y finishfile)-$(stat -c %Y startfile) | bc


#clean up
rm startfile finishfile


That's what the damned time command is for, you twit.

Compared to using the time command, that's just a f***ing stupid
waste of resources, kernal I/O, and it's problematic to boot (if
the computer is rebooted during the job, then the start file is
left to litter the filesystem.  With apologies to South Park:
"dubbmb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dummb-dummb-dummb")

Just because you "can" do something doesn't mean it's advisable,
or even worth considering for more than, oh, 1/10th of a second.


Linux is not Windows, so kindly quit offering solutions which are most
appropriate for that horrific abortion of an O/S.





The above could go into a script with prompts or you could play around
with glade, a nifty GUI front-end builder.  Building GUI front-ends
isn't that tough on Tk either.





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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-07-08 Thread Cristea Bogdan

This is the approach I have chosen to create a simple bash script
which acts as a counter.
http://bashscripts.org/viewtopic.php?t=401

On 7/9/07, Theo v. Werkhoven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Fri, 06 Jul 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>  I need a simple program which counts the elapsed time starting from
> a given point. Could you give some suggestions?

STARTTIME=$( date +%s )

ENDTIME=$(date +%s)

ELAPSETIME=$((ENDTIME - STARTTIME))

Working out minutes and hours is left as exercise for the reader, as
usual.

Otherwise Python and Perl have easy to use modules to do these
things.

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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-07-08 Thread ken
Fri, 06 Jul 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>  I need a simple program which counts the elapsed time starting from
> a given point. Could you give some suggestions?

Another way would be to create one file at the start time and another at
the end time, then calculate the differences in the creation times, e.g.,

touch startfile
(time marches on)
touch finishfile

#output files' mod times in seconds since Epoch's begin; pipe to bc
echo $(stat -c %Y finishfile)-$(stat -c %Y startfile) | bc


#clean up
rm startfile finishfile

The above could go into a script with prompts or you could play around
with glade, a nifty GUI front-end builder.  Building GUI front-ends
isn't that tough on Tk either.

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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-07-08 Thread Theo v. Werkhoven
Fri, 06 Jul 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>  I need a simple program which counts the elapsed time starting from
> a given point. Could you give some suggestions?

STARTTIME=$( date +%s )

ENDTIME=$(date +%s)

ELAPSETIME=$((ENDTIME - STARTTIME))

Working out minutes and hours is left as exercise for the reader, as
usual.

Otherwise Python and Perl have easy to use modules to do these
things.

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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-07-06 Thread Dave Howorth
On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 20:21 +0300, Cristea Bogdan wrote:
> In my case, I need to start the counter on the host (PC) and in
> parallel to launch some process on a target (switch).

time ssh switch some-process

perhaps?

Cheers, Dave

> On 7/6/07, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Friday 06 July 2007 09:55:09 Cristea Bogdan wrote:
> > >   I need a simple program which counts the elapsed time starting from
> > > a given point. Could you give some suggestions?
> >
> > for the shell, just use time:
> >
> > time somecommand
> >
> > will gve to you the time (user time and total time, that is total - 
> > syscalls)
> > when the program finishes.
> >
> > Something similar, for use in C++ code, look how Measure class is 
> > implemented:
> >
> > http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/zypp/trunk/libzypp/zypp/base/Measure.h
> > http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/zypp/trunk/libzypp/zypp/base/Measure.cc
> >
> > You can see the docs in the header file itself.
> >
> > Is that what you are looking for?
> >
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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-07-06 Thread Cristea Bogdan

In my case, I need to start the counter on the host (PC) and in
parallel to launch some process on a target (switch).

On 7/6/07, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Friday 06 July 2007 09:55:09 Cristea Bogdan wrote:
>   I need a simple program which counts the elapsed time starting from
> a given point. Could you give some suggestions?

for the shell, just use time:

time somecommand

will gve to you the time (user time and total time, that is total - syscalls)
when the program finishes.

Something similar, for use in C++ code, look how Measure class is implemented:

http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/zypp/trunk/libzypp/zypp/base/Measure.h
http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/zypp/trunk/libzypp/zypp/base/Measure.cc

You can see the docs in the header file itself.

Is that what you are looking for?

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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-07-06 Thread John D Lamb
On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 10:55 +0300, Cristea Bogdan wrote:
>   I need a simple program which counts the elapsed time starting from
> a given point. Could you give some suggestions?

I regularly use C/C++ programs for this. The starting point is 
#include
#include

and the getrusage functions. If you want more details, email me or the
suse-programming-e list.

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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-07-06 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Friday 06 July 2007 09:55:09 Cristea Bogdan wrote:
>   I need a simple program which counts the elapsed time starting from
> a given point. Could you give some suggestions?

for the shell, just use time:

time somecommand

will gve to you the time (user time and total time, that is total - syscalls) 
when the program finishes.

Something similar, for use in C++ code, look how Measure class is implemented:

http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/zypp/trunk/libzypp/zypp/base/Measure.h
http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/zypp/trunk/libzypp/zypp/base/Measure.cc

You can see the docs in the header file itself.

Is that what you are looking for?

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[opensuse] Counter needed

2007-07-06 Thread Cristea Bogdan

 I need a simple program which counts the elapsed time starting from
a given point. Could you give some suggestions?

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