Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Martin Mielke
nice ol'good ASCII-art :-)


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From: Peter Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Charles philip Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 12:28:38 AM
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:
>
>
> You can send me a pint of vitual Bitter.  ;-)
>
> Charles
>
>   

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Enjoy!


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:



You can send me a pint of vitual Bitter.  ;-)

Charles

  


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Charles philip Chan

> Many thanks to you all for your patience and forebearance.  

No problem.

> If any of you get to Cardiff, drop me an email and I'll buy you a
> pint.

You can send me a pint of vitual Bitter.  ;-)

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2007-01-08 Thread Peter Bradley


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Ysgrifennodd Randall R Schulz:

On Monday 08 January 2007 10:21, Peter Bradley wrote:
  

Huh? The only thing I wrote on this topic was a question about S/PDIF 
outputs from disc players and inputs on contemporary sound I/O 
hardware.
  

Sorry Randall.  My bad.  I got confused.


Peter

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:

[EMAIL PROTECTED], I checked the rpm's for you. They moved kscd to
kdemultimedia3-extra. kdemultimedia3-CD now only contains kaudiocreator.
  

Bingo

Now, I realise I've not behaved like the most intelligent of users, and 
I apologise for that.


Many thanks to you all for your patience and forebearance.  If any of 
you get to Cardiff, drop me an email and I'll buy you a pint.


Best regards


Peter

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Charles philip Chan
On  8 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The problem now is that KsCD no longer seems to be installed (at least
> it isn't in /opt/kde3/bin where it used to be),

[EMAIL PROTECTED], I checked the rpm's for you. They moved kscd to
kdemultimedia3-extra. kdemultimedia3-CD now only contains kaudiocreator.

> Amarok crashes  (SIGSEV) when I try to run it, 

Waht error do you get when you try to run it from a console?

> and XMMS runs but still doesn't play anything and since I can't see
> any controls on it, 

What do you mean? Send me a screenshot privately if you want.

> I've no idea how to configure it.

(1) Right click on xmms (not on the playlist window). Select "Options"->
"Preferences"

(2) In the "Input Plugin" pane, select "CD Audio Player" and click
"Configure"

(3) In the configuration dialog, check "Digital audio extraction"

> I'm really grateful to you all for all the help the help you've given
> me.

No Problem.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:


It is sitting there right in the directory:

http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.0/x86_64/kdemultimedia3-CD-3.5.5-28.2.x86_64.rpm

  
Forgive me.  I'm trying to do too many things at once and not doing any 
of them well.


OK.  That's now installed:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/kde3/bin> rpm -qa | grep multimedia
kdemultimedia3-video-3.4.2-10
kdemultimedia3-sound-3.5.5-28.2
kdemultimedia3-CD-3.5.5-28.2
kdemultimedia3-mixer-3.4.2-11.pm.0
kdemultimedia3-3.4.2-10

The problem now is that KsCD no longer seems to be installed (at least 
it isn't in /opt/kde3/bin where it used to be), Amarok crashes (SIGSEV) 
when I try to run it, and XMMS runs but still doesn't play anything and 
since I can't see any controls on it, I've no idea how to configure it.


I'm really grateful to you all for all the help the help you've given 
me.  Do any of you have any ideas as to how I should proceed from here?



Peter

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Charles philip Chan
On  8 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ah, in that case, it doesn't appear to be available.  Not for x86_64
> anyway.  

It is sitting there right in the directory:

http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.0/x86_64/kdemultimedia3-CD-3.5.5-28.2.x86_64.rpm

> Would I be OK installing the i586 version?

No, not unless if you do a 32-bit QT3 and KDE install.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:

Well, I've installed kdemultimedia3-sound-3.5.5-28.2.x86_64.rpm as



kscd is not in kdemultimedia3-sound. It is in kdemultimedia3-CD.

Charles

  
Ah, in that case, it doesn't appear to be available.  Not for x86_64 
anyway.  Would I be OK installing the i586 version?



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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Charles philip Chan

> Well, I've installed kdemultimedia3-sound-3.5.5-28.2.x86_64.rpm as

kscd is not in kdemultimedia3-sound. It is in kdemultimedia3-CD.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Darryl Gregorash:


Add it as an installation source in Yast; then use the Yast
"Install/Remove Software" module. Don't bother about all that smart
nonsense, Yast is your friend :-)

  


Well, I've installed kdemultimedia3-sound-3.5.5-28.2.x86_64.rpm as 
suggested, but it hasn't made any difference:


linux:/etc/yum.repos.d # rpm -qa | grep multimedia
kdemultimedia3-video-3.4.2-10
kdemultimedia3-sound-3.5.5-28.2
kdemultimedia3-mixer-3.4.2-11.pm.0
kdemultimedia3-CD-3.4.2-11.pm.0
kdemultimedia3-3.4.2-10

and KsCD is version 1.5

Looks like I'm going to have to look out the screwdriver, doesn't it?  
What should I look for in the guts of my box?  Will I have to buy 
anything (like some kind of cable or something) before I start?




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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 08 January 2007 10:21, Peter Bradley wrote:
> Ysgrifennodd J. Scott Thayer M.D.:
> > For what it's worth, I tried KsCD after reading this thread and it
> > didn't work. When I tried Amarok it worked just fine. Is using KsCD
> > mandatory? S
>
> No, Randall.

Huh? The only thing I wrote on this topic was a question about S/PDIF 
outputs from disc players and inputs on contemporary sound I/O 
hardware.


> ...
>
> Perhaps I'm missing something?

Am _I_ missing something?


> ...
> Peter


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Darryl Gregorash:


I use xmms, and it works just fine. It definitely has a setting for
analog or digital extraction, and AFAICR always has.


  
I've also got xmms, but it just comes up as an unreadable tiny black 
square on my monitor.  I've failed to make any sense out of it at all.



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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Sunday 07 January 2007 19:40, Anders Johansson wrote:
> On Monday 08 January 2007 04:38, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > Now that I think of it, I wonder if there are audio cards out there
> > with S/PDIF input connectors. I've had several with S/PDIF outputs,
> > but I don't think I've seen S/PDIF inputs.
>
> If you look at the link I gave, there is a picture of one

Ah. And I see now that my optical drives _do_ have those outputs and so 
does the on-board audio on my mainboard.

Cool.


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd J. Scott Thayer M.D.:


For what it's worth, I tried KsCD after reading this thread and it didn't 
work. When I tried Amarok it worked just fine. Is using KsCD mandatory?

S

  
No, Randall.  KsCD is not mandatory.  I have Amarok 1.3 installed, but I 
don't see how to get it to play anything.  I tried File | Play media ... 
and then in the file selection box that appears, selected 
/dev/cdrecorder, /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd, all of which sounded likely, 
but none of them worked.  I got a message saying, "Some media could not 
be loaded (not playable)": but I know it is playable, because I can play 
it from the same drive in XP.


Perhaps I'm missing something?

Regards


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Mike McMullin:



  Also note that some mobo's and optical drives come with ports for
digital sound connection between the two, bypassing the IDE cable.

  


Hmm.  Which is why I'll do almost anything to avoid opening the case.

:)


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Darryl Gregorash:


Good grief, Charles, he's probably got an empty DVD drive! :-)

Peter: in the Yast installation source module, just disable the device
as an installation medium. If necessary, add in an ftp or http
repository from one of the mirrors.

  
Heh!  Well, not an empty drive, but there does seem to be a physical 
problem with it.  I got it to behave in the end, though.


Nice vote of confidence, though - and probably just what I deserve!

:)


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-08 Thread Kai Ponte
On Sunday 07 January 2007 11:36, Peter Bradley wrote:
> I have a Compaq with an AMD64 dual core processor and an IXP SB-400

Wow, sweet. How is that?

> I've checked all the volume settings I can find, and they all appear to
> be OK.
>
> Does anyone have a clue what I'm missing?

Don't know if you're on KDE or some other manager, but in KDE, I noticed that 
- by default - the sound tick for CD media wasn't set on a few systems I'd 
setup.

I did a simple right-click on KMIx in the system tray > show mixer window > 
the input tab and made sure the CD input selection was enabled. 


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-01-07 23:07, Charles philip Chan wrote:
> On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>   
>> I don't know how recently that might be. In 9.3, CD audio is provided
>> by libcdaudio.so, part of the xmms-lib package, which is built from
>> the same src.rpm as xmms itself.
>> 
>
> Just for your interest, after looking at the Changelog of my xmms tree,
> digital extaction was put in on Thu Jan 2 23:47:01 CET 2003.
>
>
>   
OK, thanks. PDOTTR (*) updated.


(*) I hope that isn't already used for something else :-)

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Charles philip Chan
On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I don't know how recently that might be. In 9.3, CD audio is provided
> by libcdaudio.so, part of the xmms-lib package, which is built from
> the same src.rpm as xmms itself.

Just for your interest, after looking at the Changelog of my xmms tree,
digital extaction was put in on Thu Jan 2 23:47:01 CET 2003.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Charles philip Chan
On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I don't know how recently that might be. In 9.3, CD audio is provided
> by libcdaudio.so, part of the xmms-lib package, which is built from
> the same src.rpm as xmms itself.

I know, that is why I said *you used to*. :-)

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-01-07 21:58, Charles philip Chan wrote:
> On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>   
>> It definitely has a setting for analog or digital extraction, and
>> AFAICR always has.
>> 
>
> No, you used to need a third party input plugin such as xmms-cdread for
> digital extraction.
I don't know how recently that might be. In 9.3, CD audio is provided by
libcdaudio.so, part of the xmms-lib package, which is built from the
same src.rpm as xmms itself.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Charles philip Chan
On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> No kidding? There are CD/DVD drives with S/PDIF connectors? Optical? 
> Coax? Interesting...

Interesting. Never seen one either.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Charles philip Chan
On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I use xmms, and it works just fine. 

Yes, it does.

> It definitely has a setting for analog or digital extraction, and
> AFAICR always has.

No, you used to need a third party input plugin such as xmms-cdread for
digital extraction.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Anders Johansson
On Monday 08 January 2007 04:38, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Now that I think of it, I wonder if there are audio cards out there with
> S/PDIF input connectors. I've had several with S/PDIF outputs, but I
> don't think I've seen S/PDIF inputs.

If you look at the link I gave, there is a picture of one

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Sunday 07 January 2007 18:37, Anders Johansson wrote:
> On Monday 08 January 2007 03:27, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > ...
> > > Also note that some mobo's and optical drives come with ports
> > > for digital sound connection between the two, bypassing the IDE
> > > cable.
> >
> > Really? What interface spec is used? What do the connectors look
> > like? Can you point us to some information on this interface?
>
> S/PDIF is one such standard, for digital connection between devices
> and sound card

No kidding? There are CD/DVD drives with S/PDIF connectors? Optical? 
Coax? Interesting...

Now that I think of it, I wonder if there are audio cards out there with 
S/PDIF input connectors. I've had several with S/PDIF outputs, but I 
don't think I've seen S/PDIF inputs.


> ...


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-01-07 21:18, J. Scott Thayer M.D. wrote:
> 
> For what it's worth, I tried KsCD after reading this thread and it didn't 
> work. When I tried Amarok it worked just fine. Is using KsCD mandatory?
>   
I use xmms, and it works just fine. It definitely has a setting for
analog or digital extraction, and AFAICR always has.

Can't stand amarok, personally, but as always, mileage varies.


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread J. Scott Thayer M.D.
On Sunday 07 January 2007 21:27, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Sunday 07 January 2007 18:19, Mike McMullin wrote:
> > ...
> >
> >   Also note that some mobo's and optical drives come with ports for
> > digital sound connection between the two, bypassing the IDE cable.
>
> Really? What interface spec is used? What do the connectors look like?
> Can you point us to some information on this interface?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Randall Schulz
For what it's worth, I tried KsCD after reading this thread and it didn't 
work. When I tried Amarok it worked just fine. Is using KsCD mandatory?
S

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Mike McMullin
On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 23:21 +, Peter Bradley wrote:
> Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:
> > On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Does anyone know where I can go from here?
> >> 
> >
> > Either:
> >
> > (1) Upgrade to the current version of OPENSUSE
> >
> > or
> >
> > (2) Try downloading the iso for SUSE 10.0 (I presume you are on ix86):
> >
> > ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.0/iso
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >   
> Sorry Charles (and everybody else).  False alarm.
> 
> I'm tired.  Time for bed, I think.  I'll have another go tomorrow 
> evening.  Many, many thanks for all of your help.

  Rather than dl'ing the .iso, if you can come up with the names of the
required files, it might be possible to have the e-mailed to you, or
better yet, to get them off of one of SuSE's ftp servers, even if you
have to add the server as an installation source.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Anders Johansson
On Monday 08 January 2007 03:27, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Sunday 07 January 2007 18:19, Mike McMullin wrote:
> > ...
> >
> >   Also note that some mobo's and optical drives come with ports for
> > digital sound connection between the two, bypassing the IDE cable.
>
> Really? What interface spec is used? What do the connectors look like?
> Can you point us to some information on this interface?

S/PDIF is one such standard, for digital connection between devices and sound 
card

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/82

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Sunday 07 January 2007 18:19, Mike McMullin wrote:
> ...
>
>   Also note that some mobo's and optical drives come with ports for
> digital sound connection between the two, bypassing the IDE cable.

Really? What interface spec is used? What do the connectors look like? 
Can you point us to some information on this interface?

Thanks.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Mike McMullin
On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 15:15 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> On 2007-01-07 14:59, ianseeks wrote:
> >  
> >  
> >  ... digital playback cable between your player and sound card ...
> That cable is analogue playback.. the "digital" playback cable is the
> one connected to your IDE controller.

  Also note that some mobo's and optical drives come with ports for
digital sound connection between the two, bypassing the IDE cable.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-01-07 17:17, Charles philip Chan wrote:
> On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>   
>> Does anyone know where I can go from here?
>> 
>
> Either:
>
> (1) Upgrade to the current version of OPENSUSE
>
> or
>
> (2) Try downloading the iso for SUSE 10.0 (I presume you are on ix86):
>
> ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.0/iso
>
> Charles
>
>   
Good grief, Charles, he's probably got an empty DVD drive! :-)

Peter: in the Yast installation source module, just disable the device
as an installation medium. If necessary, add in an ftp or http
repository from one of the mirrors.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-01-07 16:21, Peter Bradley wrote:
> Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:
>>
>>
>> http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.0/
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>   
> I'm sorry to be a pain, Charles, but is there any way I can use YOU to
> get the updated version of KDE from there?  I can see myself getting
> into dependency hell otherwise. 
Add it as an installation source in Yast; then use the Yast
"Install/Remove Software" module. Don't bother about all that smart
nonsense, Yast is your friend :-)

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:

For YUM:

Copy 


http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.0/KDE:KDE3.repo

to

/etc/yum.repos.d/

Charles

  

OK.  Definitely my last post tonight.

I've got yum installed, and I've copied the file to /etc/yum.repos.d, 
but I'm now getting the error message:


*** Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: KDE:KDE3
*** failure: repodata/repomd.xml from KDE:KDE3: [Errno 256] No more 
mirrors to try.
*** Error: failure: repodata/repomd.xml from KDE:KDE3: [Errno 256] No 
more mirrors to try.


Any ideas gratefully received.


Peter (retiring to bed ...)

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:

On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Does anyone know where I can go from here?



Either:

(1) Upgrade to the current version of OPENSUSE

or

(2) Try downloading the iso for SUSE 10.0 (I presume you are on ix86):

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.0/iso

Charles

  

Sorry Charles (and everybody else).  False alarm.

I'm tired.  Time for bed, I think.  I'll have another go tomorrow 
evening.  Many, many thanks for all of your help.



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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Charles philip Chan
On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can go from here?

Either:

(1) Upgrade to the current version of OPENSUSE

or

(2) Try downloading the iso for SUSE 10.0 (I presume you are on ix86):

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.0/iso

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:

For YUM:

Copy 


http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.0/KDE:KDE3.repo

to

/etc/yum.repos.d/

Charles

  

Sigh!

Things are now going from bad to worse.

I don't have yum or smart installed, so I tried to install yum and am 
now getting an error message saying that there is something wrong with 
my installation DVD.  When I do a media check, I get:


Check started (/dev/hdc)...
Identification: SuSE-Linux-DVD-10.0
Medium: DVD1
Size: 8331742 kB
Result: md5sum wrong

Does anyone know where I can go from here?


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Charles philip Chan
On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'm sure you're right, but it's what comes with SuSE Linux 10.0 -
> which isn't that old, and I used to play CDs under SuSE 9.3.

I am still on 9.3 :-). However, I compile my own KDE.

> But the real trouble is, I've no idea how to go about doing an
> upgrade.  Nothing is available via YaST as far as I can see.

http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.0/

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Charles philip Chan
On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'm sorry to be a pain, Charles, 

No problem.

> but is there any way I can use YOU to get the updated version of KDE
> from there?  I can see myself getting into dependency hell otherwise.

Please refer to the info on this page:

   http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/User

It looks you can use either smart or YUM

For smart:

smart channel --add 
http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.0/KDE:KDE3.repo

For YUM:

Copy 

http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.0/KDE:KDE3.repo

to

/etc/yum.repos.d/

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:



http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.0/

Charles

  
I'm sorry to be a pain, Charles, but is there any way I can use YOU to 
get the updated version of KDE from there?  I can see myself getting 
into dependency hell otherwise.



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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Darryl Gregorash:

There is no such option in the version I have either, kmultimedia
3.4.0-14 with kscd 1.5.

  

How did you get the version info, Darryl?


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Charles philip Chan
On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> There is no such option in the version I have either, kmultimedia
> 3.4.0-14 with kscd 1.5.

You need KSCD 1.6. KDE 3.4 is really old, you should consider upgrading.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread ianseeks
 
 On Sunday 07 January 2007 21:25, Peter Bradley wrote:
> Ysgrifennodd Darryl Gregorash:
> > There is no such option in the version I have either, kmultimedia
> > 3.4.0-14 with kscd 1.5.
>
> How did you get the version info, Darryl?

Extras / Help / About KsCD
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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread ianseeks
 
 On Sunday 07 January 2007 21:15, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> On 2007-01-07 14:59, ianseeks wrote:
> >  ... digital playback cable between your player and sound card ...
>
> That cable is analogue playback.. the "digital" playback cable is the
> one connected to your IDE controller.

aha - i wasn't sure but i knew it helped somewhere.  thanks
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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd ianseeks:


Extras / Help / About KsCD
  

Oops!  Sorry.  Don't know how I missed that.


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Pete Connolly:

On Sunday 07 January 2007 21:25, Peter Bradley wrote:
  
Hi Peter


Try this:

rpm -qa | grep multimedia

It should give something like:

kdemultimedia3-3.5.5-31.pm.0
kdemultimedia3-mixer-3.5.5-31.pm.0
kdemultimedia3-CD-3.5.5-31.pm.0
kdemultimedia3-sound-3.5.5-31.pm.0

My system is a fully patched 10.2

Cheers

Pete

  

Thanks.  I get:

kdemultimedia3-video-3.4.2-10
kdemultimedia3-CD-3.4.2-10
kdemultimedia3-sound-3.4.2-10
kdemultimedia3-3.4.2-10
kdemultimedia3-mixer-3.4.2-10


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Darryl Gregorash:

On 2007-01-07 15:25, Peter Bradley wrote:
  

Ysgrifennodd Darryl Gregorash:


There is no such option in the version I have either, kmultimedia
3.4.0-14 with kscd 1.5.

  
  

How did you get the version info, Darryl?


Peter



~ # rpm -qf `which kscd`
kdemultimedia3-CD-3.4.0-14
~ # kscd -v
Qt: 3.3.4
KDE: 3.4.0 Level "b"
KsCD: 1.5

  

Hmmm.  I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -qf `which kscd`
kdemultimedia3-CD-3.4.2-10
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> kscd -v
Qt: 3.3.4
KDE: 3.4.2 Level "b"
KsCD: 1.5

This is all a bit odd, isn't it.


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-01-07 15:25, Peter Bradley wrote:
> Ysgrifennodd Darryl Gregorash:
>> There is no such option in the version I have either, kmultimedia
>> 3.4.0-14 with kscd 1.5.
>>
>>   
> How did you get the version info, Darryl?
>
>
> Peter
>
~ # rpm -qf `which kscd`
kdemultimedia3-CD-3.4.0-14
~ # kscd -v
Qt: 3.3.4
KDE: 3.4.0 Level "b"
KsCD: 1.5

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd James Knott:

Incidentally, I've noticed that the Eject function doesn't work with
this version, though it does from the icon in the "My Computer" folder.

  

Ha!  Eject works for me.  It's about the only thing that does!

:)


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread James Knott
Peter Bradley wrote:
> Ysgrifennodd Darryl Gregorash:
>> There is no such option in the version I have either, kmultimedia
>> 3.4.0-14 with kscd 1.5.
>>
>>   
> How did you get the version info, Darryl?
>

Extras > Help > About Kscd.

I've got 1.6 in OpenSUSE 10.2.

Incidentally, I've noticed that the Eject function doesn't work with
this version, though it does from the icon in the "My Computer" folder.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:

You need KSCD 1.6. KDE 3.4 is really old, you should consider upgrading.

Charles

  
I'm sure you're right, but it's what comes with SuSE Linux 10.0 - which 
isn't that old, and I used to play CDs under SuSE 9.3.


But the real trouble is, I've no idea how to go about doing an upgrade.  
Nothing is available via YaST as far as I can see.



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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Pete Connolly
On Sunday 07 January 2007 21:25, Peter Bradley wrote:
> Ysgrifennodd Darryl Gregorash:
> > There is no such option in the version I have either, kmultimedia
> > 3.4.0-14 with kscd 1.5.
>
> How did you get the version info, Darryl?
>
>
> Peter

Hi Peter

Try this:

rpm -qa | grep multimedia

It should give something like:

kdemultimedia3-3.5.5-31.pm.0
kdemultimedia3-mixer-3.5.5-31.pm.0
kdemultimedia3-CD-3.5.5-31.pm.0
kdemultimedia3-sound-3.5.5-31.pm.0

My system is a fully patched 10.2

Cheers

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread ianseeks
 
 On Sunday 07 January 2007 20:57, Peter Bradley wrote:
> Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:
> > If it is not connected, one can turn on "Use direct digital playback" in
> > kscd. This will rip and play the CD in realtime. This is in fact the
> > default playback type in Windows since XP.
> >
> > Charles
>
> Hmm.  It seems the list won't accept either images or attachments.  So,
> OK, here's a list of what I can see in KsCD from Extras | Configure KsCD:
>
> CD Player
> Interface
> LCD font
> LCD color
> Background color
> Show icon in system tray (checked)
> Show track announcement (unchecked)
> Play options
> Skip interval (30 seconds)
> Autoplay when CD inserted (checked)
> Eject CD when finished playing (unchecked)
> Stop playing CD on exit (checked)
> CD Rom device
> /dev/cdrom
> Select audio backend (greyed out)
> Select audio device (greyed out)
> Music information services
> Allow encoding selection (unchecked, so dropdown list is greyed
> out) CDDB
>N/A
>
> The configuration looks the same whether I run KsCD as me or as root
>
>
>
> Peter

I got the attachment ok.
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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-01-07 14:59, ianseeks wrote:
>  
>  
>  ... digital playback cable between your player and sound card ...
That cable is analogue playback.. the "digital" playback cable is the
one connected to your IDE controller.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-01-07 14:57, Charles philip Chan wrote:
> On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>   
>> How do I do that, Charles?  
>> 
>
> "Extras"-> "Configure ksCD"-> "CD Player" -> check "Use direct digital
> playback" under "CD-ROM Deevice"
>   
There is no such option in the version I have either, kmultimedia
3.4.0-14 with kscd 1.5.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:

On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
How do I do that, Charles?  



"Extras"-> "Configure ksCD"-> "CD Player" -> check "Use direct digital
playback" under "CD-ROM Deevice"

  

There's nothing in the configuration that looks like that (see my
earlier reply for a screen dump (if it shows OK)).



No, the list software will reject it. If you like you can send it to me
privately.

Charles

  
Nope, 'fraid not.  The only options under CD-Rom device are "Select 
audio backend" and "Select audio device".  Both of these are disabled 
(greyed out)


:(


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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread ianseeks
 
 On Sunday 07 January 2007 20:44, Peter Bradley wrote:

> That option doesn't appear to be available.  I'm trying to attach a
> screen dump of the KsCD config settings.  If the list rejects it, I'll
> post again listing the options I can see.
>
> KsCD config
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Peter

I can only surmise that you either have an old KsCD version or your digital 
playback cable between your player and sound card is not attached.
My version is 1.6 (using KDE 3.5.5 release 50.1)
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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:



If it is not connected, one can turn on "Use direct digital playback" in
kscd. This will rip and play the CD in realtime. This is in fact the
default playback type in Windows since XP.

Charles 

  
Hmm.  It seems the list won't accept either images or attachments.  So, 
OK, here's a list of what I can see in KsCD from Extras | Configure KsCD:


CD Player
   Interface
   LCD font
   LCD color
   Background color
   Show icon in system tray (checked)
   Show track announcement (unchecked)
   Play options
   Skip interval (30 seconds)
   Autoplay when CD inserted (checked)
   Eject CD when finished playing (unchecked)
   Stop playing CD on exit (checked)
   CD Rom device
   /dev/cdrom
   Select audio backend (greyed out)
   Select audio device (greyed out)
   Music information services
   Allow encoding selection (unchecked, so dropdown list is greyed out)
CDDB
  N/A

The configuration looks the same whether I run KsCD as me or as root



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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Charles philip Chan
On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> How do I do that, Charles?  

"Extras"-> "Configure ksCD"-> "CD Player" -> check "Use direct digital
playback" under "CD-ROM Deevice"

> There's nothing in the configuration that looks like that (see my
> earlier reply for a screen dump (if it shows OK)).

No, the list software will reject it. If you like you can send it to me
privately.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Charles philip Chan:

If it is not connected, one can turn on "Use direct digital playback" in
kscd. This will rip and play the CD in realtime. This is in fact the
default playback type in Windows since XP.

Charles 

  
How do I do that, Charles?  There's nothing in the configuration that 
looks like that (see my earlier reply for a screen dump (if it shows OK)).



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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Charles philip Chan
On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> If that was the case, it wouldn't play in Windows, would it?  I'm not
> much of a hardware person, so I may be mistaken here.

Window defaults to using digital extraction.

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Markus Koßmann:
The audio cable between CDROM drive and soundcard ? 
  
If that was the case, it wouldn't play in Windows, would it?  I'm not 
much of a hardware person, so I may be mistaken here.



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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Charles philip Chan
On  7 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The audio cable between CDROM drive and soundcard ? 

If it is not connected, one can turn on "Use direct digital playback" in
kscd. This will rip and play the CD in realtime. This is in fact the
default playback type in Windows since XP.

Charles 

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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread ianseeks
 
 On Sunday 07 January 2007 19:36, Peter Bradley wrote:
> I have a Compaq with an AMD64 dual core processor and an IXP SB-400
> AC'97 Audio controller using the ATI IXP AC97 controller driver under
> SuSE 10.0.  The only problem I have with it is that it won't play music
> CDs from DVD/CDrom drive.
>
> The machine dual boots with XP.  All the sounds work on XP and I can
> play CDs from the DVD/CDrom drive.  So the hardware all appears to be
> present and correct.
>
> In Linux, where I spend most of my time, the system sounds work
> perfectly, and I can check the sounds in the YaST control centre where
> everything appears to be OK.
>
> When I put a CD into the drive, a SUSE Hardwar Detection dialog opens
> asking if I want to open the CD, with KsCD.  I say, "Open" and KsCD
> opens.  The CD light flashes and the KsCD 'LCD' says that the CD is
> playing with a volume setting of 99%.  However, I hear nothing.
>
> I've checked all the volume settings I can find, and they all appear to
> be OK.


Try configure it via Extras/Configure KsCD to select  the audio backend as 
Alsa and make sure "Use direct digital playback" is ticked and its pointing 
to the correct device i.e. I've got a CDwriter and DVD player in my PC and it 
selected the CDwriter as the player.

regards
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Re: [opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Markus Koßmann
Am Sonntag, 7. Januar 2007 20:36 schrieb Peter Bradley:
> I have a Compaq with an AMD64 dual core processor and an IXP SB-400
> AC'97 Audio controller using the ATI IXP AC97 controller driver under
> SuSE 10.0.  The only problem I have with it is that it won't play music
> CDs from DVD/CDrom drive.
>
> The machine dual boots with XP.  All the sounds work on XP and I can
> play CDs from the DVD/CDrom drive.  So the hardware all appears to be
> present and correct.
>
> In Linux, where I spend most of my time, the system sounds work
> perfectly, and I can check the sounds in the YaST control centre where
> everything appears to be OK.
>
> When I put a CD into the drive, a SUSE Hardwar Detection dialog opens
> asking if I want to open the CD, with KsCD.  I say, "Open" and KsCD
> opens.  The CD light flashes and the KsCD 'LCD' says that the CD is
> playing with a volume setting of 99%.  However, I hear nothing.
>
> I've checked all the volume settings I can find, and they all appear to
> be OK.
>
> Does anyone have a clue what I'm missing?
>
The audio cable between CDROM drive and soundcard ? 
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[opensuse] Playing CDs

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Bradley
I have a Compaq with an AMD64 dual core processor and an IXP SB-400 
AC'97 Audio controller using the ATI IXP AC97 controller driver under 
SuSE 10.0.  The only problem I have with it is that it won't play music 
CDs from DVD/CDrom drive.


The machine dual boots with XP.  All the sounds work on XP and I can 
play CDs from the DVD/CDrom drive.  So the hardware all appears to be 
present and correct.


In Linux, where I spend most of my time, the system sounds work 
perfectly, and I can check the sounds in the YaST control centre where 
everything appears to be OK.


When I put a CD into the drive, a SUSE Hardwar Detection dialog opens 
asking if I want to open the CD, with KsCD.  I say, "Open" and KsCD 
opens.  The CD light flashes and the KsCD 'LCD' says that the CD is 
playing with a volume setting of 99%.  However, I hear nothing.


I've checked all the volume settings I can find, and they all appear to 
be OK.


Does anyone have a clue what I'm missing?

Thanks


Peter
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