[opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Moby
Does anyone here run subversion on Suse boxes?  I noticed that no 
updated subversion rpms have become available for SuSE since 1.3.0


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Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Daniel Bauer
On Thursday 16 November 2006 18:52, Moby wrote:
> Does anyone here run subversion on Suse boxes?  I noticed that no
> updated subversion rpms have become available for SuSE since 1.3.0
>
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I run subversion 1.2.3-2 on Suse 10.0.
it works.

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Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Moby



Daniel Bauer wrote:

On Thursday 16 November 2006 18:52, Moby wrote:
  

Does anyone here run subversion on Suse boxes?  I noticed that no
updated subversion rpms have become available for SuSE since 1.3.0

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I run subversion 1.2.3-2 on Suse 10.0.
it works.

Daniel
  

Thanks Daniel,
I run 1.3.0 and it runs fine as well - I was curious as to why no 
updates had been released.  Subversion itself is upto version 1.4.2, 
while the latest RPMs available from SuSE are 1.3.0.  I may just have to 
uninstall SuSE's RPMs and install the latest Subversion from source.


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Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Thursday 16 November 2006 10:27, Moby wrote:
> ...
>
> Thanks Daniel,
> I run 1.3.0 and it runs fine as well - I was curious as to why no
> updates had been released.  Subversion itself is upto version 1.4.2,
> while the latest RPMs available from SuSE are 1.3.0.  I may just have
> to uninstall SuSE's RPMs and install the latest Subversion from
> source.

For the record, openSUSE 10.2 beta2 includes Subversion 1.4.0.


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Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006, Moby wrote:
> Daniel Bauer wrote:
> > On Thursday 16 November 2006 18:52, Moby wrote:
> > > Does anyone here run subversion on Suse boxes?  I noticed that no
> > > updated subversion rpms have become available for SuSE since 1.3.0
> I run 1.3.0 and it runs fine as well - I was curious as to why no updates had
> been released.  Subversion itself is upto version 1.4.2, while the latest RPMs
> available from SuSE are 1.3.0.  I may just have to uninstall SuSE's RPMs and
> install the latest Subversion from source.

I know that the SUSE developers do not always notice that packages have
newer versions.  I not that the one's I have add to bugzilla as a feature
request have all been updated.  Maybe someon should file a bug feature
request.

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Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Thursday 16 November 2006 18:46, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Thursday 16 November 2006 10:27, Moby wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > Thanks Daniel,
> > I run 1.3.0 and it runs fine as well - I was curious as to why no
> > updates had been released.  Subversion itself is upto version 1.4.2,
> > while the latest RPMs available from SuSE are 1.3.0.  I may just have
> > to uninstall SuSE's RPMs and install the latest Subversion from
> > source.
>
> For the record, openSUSE 10.2 beta2 includes Subversion 1.4.0.
>

And there is allways the build service: 
http://software.opensuse.org/download/Subversion/

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Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2006-11-16 12:27:34 -0600, Moby wrote:
> I run 1.3.0 and it runs fine as well - I was curious as to why no 
> updates had been released.  Subversion itself is upto version 1.4.2, 
> while the latest RPMs available from SuSE are 1.3.0.  I may just have to 
> uninstall SuSE's RPMs and install the latest Subversion from source.

no version for release products. use the buildservice if you want newer
packages. (url in another mail in this thread.)

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Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Moby



Marcus Rueckert wrote:

On 2006-11-16 12:27:34 -0600, Moby wrote:
  
I run 1.3.0 and it runs fine as well - I was curious as to why no 
updates had been released.  Subversion itself is upto version 1.4.2, 
while the latest RPMs available from SuSE are 1.3.0.  I may just have to 
uninstall SuSE's RPMs and install the latest Subversion from source.



no version for release products. use the buildservice if you want newer
packages. (url in another mail in this thread.)

darix

  

Thanks Darix - good to know

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Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Lars Rupp
Hi

Am Do 16.11.2006 19:49 schrieb Boyd Lynn Gerber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I know that the SUSE developers do not always notice that packages
> have
> newer versions.

That could be true for FACTORY - not for released products ;-)

> I not that the one's I have add to bugzilla as a feature
> request have all been updated.  Maybe someon should file a bug feature
> request.


You'll not get Version Upgrades for a released product directly over the
SUSE update channel (ok: we have some exeptions). SUSE has a strict
policy for released products: no version upgrades, only updates for the
version released with the distribution.

The "trick" behind it: sometimes developers decide to add new features
and perhaps some API changes to new versions. If you have installed a
programm on your system and SUSE will deliver a upgrade - perhaps
afterwards neither your programm nor any other programm linked against
it will execute... Ask people who decided to upgrade their KDE version:
sometimes it works, sometimes not.

So the answer is: yes, you can _upgrade_ - but you should know that your
system can be unstable if something happens with the newer programm
version. If you just _update_, everything should work as expected - and
even better after the update.

The SUSE developers spend a lot of time fixing old versions of a
programm. Remember: the programms (and their version numbers!) on SLES10
have seven years support. So perhaps in seven years, a user who has
updated his system every day will just have subversion 1.3.1 on his
plattform - but this version should be very "stable" then. ;-)

Greetings,
  Lars

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Re: [opensuse] Subversion on SuSE

2006-11-16 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006, Lars Rupp wrote:
> Am Do 16.11.2006 19:49 schrieb Boyd Lynn Gerber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I know that the SUSE developers do not always notice that packages
> > have
> > newer versions.
>
> That could be true for FACTORY - not for released products ;-)

Yes, I should have said that factory is where the feature requests end up
being updated.  I reported 5 or 6 packages that I use often that had not
been updated in a long time.  They have all been updated to the latest
released version prior to the feature freeze for 10.2.  I am very pleased
with how responsive the SUSE developers have been.

> > I not that the one's I have add to bugzilla as a feature
> > request have all been updated.  Maybe someon should file a bug feature
> > request.
> You'll not get Version Upgrades for a released product directly over the
> SUSE update channel (ok: we have some exeptions). SUSE has a strict
> policy for released products: no version upgrades, only updates for the
> version released with the distribution.
>
> The "trick" behind it: sometimes developers decide to add new features
> and perhaps some API changes to new versions. If you have installed a
> programm on your system and SUSE will deliver a upgrade - perhaps
> afterwards neither your programm nor any other programm linked against
> it will execute... Ask people who decided to upgrade their KDE version:
> sometimes it works, sometimes not.
>
> So the answer is: yes, you can _upgrade_ - but you should know that your
> system can be unstable if something happens with the newer programm
> version. If you just _update_, everything should work as expected - and
> even better after the update.
>
> The SUSE developers spend a lot of time fixing old versions of a
> programm. Remember: the programms (and their version numbers!) on SLES10
> have seven years support. So perhaps in seven years, a user who has
> updated his system every day will just have subversion 1.3.1 on his
> plattform - but this version should be very "stable" then. ;-)

I agree totally.  The upgrade via the build service is at your own risk.
But I have been very pleased with how well they have worked.  I use them
often.

Thanks,

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