Re: [opensuse] 10.1 Multiple wireless routers 1 wireless card?
Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Sep 2 2007 17:37, Adolph Weidanz wrote: Now I found a couple of ideas on how to do it: I set the linksys to 192.168.1.2, both the routers are on channel 1. One place I've run into problems is that the howtos I've found all say that the essid's have to be different. So say, the dlink's essid is route1, and linksys is route2. The problem with this is the network card setup requires an essid in order to use WEP. If I use route1 then it can't see route2. The easiest way to do it is to buy a second wireless card and set the linksys as 192.168.0.1, but I would rather get it to work without the this way. Any ideas be appreciated... I know of the rt2500 2.x driver which does provide a wmaster0 interface of which more interfaces can be cloned so as to log into multiple ESSIDs. Never tried it though. Jan Well... I gave it up and just rearranged things so the printer hooked to the main router... -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes “To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” [Theodore Roosevelt] 1918 Adolph Sharon Weidanz SuSE 10.1 '78 43' Endeavour Ketch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Team 45 S/V Time To Paws -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.1 Multiple wireless routers 1 wireless card?
On Sep 2 2007 17:37, Adolph Weidanz wrote: Now I found a couple of ideas on how to do it: I set the linksys to 192.168.1.2, both the routers are on channel 1. One place I've run into problems is that the howtos I've found all say that the essid's have to be different. So say, the dlink's essid is route1, and linksys is route2. The problem with this is the network card setup requires an essid in order to use WEP. If I use route1 then it can't see route2. The easiest way to do it is to buy a second wireless card and set the linksys as 192.168.0.1, but I would rather get it to work without the this way. Any ideas be appreciated... I know of the rt2500 2.x driver which does provide a wmaster0 interface of which more interfaces can be cloned so as to log into multiple ESSIDs. Never tried it though. Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.1 Multiple wireless routers 1 wireless card?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adolph Weidanz wrote: Hey all... This might be one of those that just can't be done... Ok... I have a DLink 451 (HSDPA hotspot wireless router) that I have setup as 192.168.1.1 w/ DHCP off (all the computers have set IPs). I also have a ancient linksys befw11s4 wireless. In a perfect world I want to have the linksys act as an AP for the printer (yes it is networkable) and the dlink connect to the world. All of the computers would connect via the dlink, but be able to print by sending via cups to 192.168.1.1/2 Now I found a couple of ideas on how to do it: I set the linksys to 192.168.1.2, both the routers are on channel 1. One place I've run into problems is that the howtos I've found all say that the essid's have to be different. So say, the dlink's essid is route1, and linksys is route2. The problem with this is the network card setup requires an essid in order to use WEP. If I use route1 then it can't see route2. The easiest way to do it is to buy a second wireless card and set the linksys as 192.168.0.1, but I would rather get it to work without the this way. Any ideas be appreciated... What I am not clear about is whether the other machines have wi-fi or cable networking ... Unfortunately AP are low level connection points and normal IP based routing techniques cannot be used with the APs themselves. If you choose to run two distinct wireless networks and you need one machine to connect to both you will need two wi-fi cards on that machine. To avoid the two interfering with each other you need them to be on two channels at least 2 apart (i.e. 5 7 , 6 8) but preferably further, it is definitely not a good idea to have them on the same channel. BTW Check your countries wireless regulation a couple of EU states have some restrictions on what channels can be used. You do not state the make of printer or the distance between printer and the box you wish to connect to. Some printer have Bluetooth support or can be upgraded with a WiFi card this may provide an alternative option. It is possibled to setup a wireless bridge but this is usually only possible with two devices from the same manufacturer which have support for that manufacturers bridging technology (I am running a netgear wifi bridge based setup myself). You will probably be able to do this if one or other of the manufacturers of your current APs supplies an AP with bridge support that can be connected to by cable to the other manufacturers router. Finally, there are wireless print servers available. - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG28yvasN0sSnLmgIRArwlAKDfRidkHYyyiqUuJRuixNKnwn/rXgCgnrt/ HY4wWtRWX8cr28n+VC/OQqw= =uN8U -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.1 Multiple wireless routers 1 wireless card?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adolph Sharon Weidanz wrote: G T Smith wrote: Adolph Weidanz wrote: Hey all... Any ideas be appreciated... What I am not clear about is whether the other machines have wi-fi or cable networking ... The other machines are all wi-fi, the only cable I wanted to use was the one between the linksys and the printer. Unfortunately AP are low level connection points and normal IP based routing techniques cannot be used with the APs themselves. Since the printer has it's own IP (192.168.1.15) then would the AP be transparent and the packet just hunt down where .15 is? No.. been there, got the teeshirt. What you will have is two separate networks that will not pass info between each other and random connectivity to the APs that link to those networks.. not only will you not get the result you desire you are likely to prang the whole network (as routing will become chaotic). To integrate the APs you need to bridge between them somehow so everything is always connectable to everything else. APs do not function like network cards they provide the equivalent of the wire to connect between locations. A possible alternative is a power cable network connection (via your power cables, not a lot of bandwidth but do you really need it for a printer?). I have never investigated using this technology with Linux but it might worth considering in your situation. . If you choose to run two distinct wireless networks and you need one machine to connect to both you will need two wi-fi cards on that machine. To avoid the two interfering with each other you need them to This is what I was hoping to avoid. I guess this is the way to go, the cards are fairly cheap... With this you will have two approaches available (bridging or routing), with the linux bridge support I have had problems with WiFi cards so routing is probably the soundest option. BTW you may have further problems if you use a laptop for routing, a desktop class machine is probably preferable. You do not state the make of printer or the distance between printer and the box you wish to connect to. Some printer have Bluetooth support or can be upgraded with a WiFi card this may provide an alternative option. The printer is a Dell 1600N and the linksys router sits next to it. The dlink sits about 30ft away, but because of the location a wire can't be run from the printer to the dlink. Finally, there are wireless print servers available. But they are more then the wireless cards, and the goal of the setup was to make it work with existing equipment. Actually if you have old knackered PC available you can put in a a WiFi card in it and connect to the printer directly. (You only would only need a monitor for the initial setup). - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG3BrFasN0sSnLmgIRAhu9AKDQsOAnjHEVeDZoGtRR9ocXl4DHmACgiZay aksSbuX/7bdBIUuhjpCpJDs= =leV3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.1 Multiple wireless routers 1 wireless card?
On Monday 03 September 2007 10:31, G T Smith wrote: Adolph Sharon Weidanz wrote: G T Smith wrote: Adolph Weidanz wrote: Hey all... Any ideas be appreciated... What I am not clear about is whether the other machines have wi-fi or cable networking ... The other machines are all wi-fi, the only cable I wanted to use was the one between the linksys and the printer. Unfortunately AP are low level connection points and normal IP based routing techniques cannot be used with the APs themselves. Since the printer has it's own IP (192.168.1.15) then would the AP be transparent and the packet just hunt down where .15 is? No.. been there, got the teeshirt. What you will have is two separate networks that will not pass info between each other and random connectivity to the APs that link to those networks.. not only will you not get the result you desire you are likely to prang the whole network (as routing will become chaotic). To integrate the APs you need to bridge between them somehow so everything is always connectable to everything else. APs do not function like network cards they provide the equivalent of the wire to connect between locations. A possible alternative is a power cable network connection (via your power cables, not a lot of bandwidth but do you really need it for a printer?). I have never investigated using this technology with Linux but it might worth considering in your situation. . If you choose to run two distinct wireless networks and you need one machine to connect to both you will need two wi-fi cards on that machine. To avoid the two interfering with each other you need them to This is what I was hoping to avoid. I guess this is the way to go, the cards are fairly cheap... With this you will have two approaches available (bridging or routing), with the linux bridge support I have had problems with WiFi cards so routing is probably the soundest option. BTW you may have further problems if you use a laptop for routing, a desktop class machine is probably preferable. You do not state the make of printer or the distance between printer and the box you wish to connect to. Some printer have Bluetooth support or can be upgraded with a WiFi card this may provide an alternative option. The printer is a Dell 1600N and the linksys router sits next to it. The dlink sits about 30ft away, but because of the location a wire can't be run from the printer to the dlink. Finally, there are wireless print servers available. But they are more then the wireless cards, and the goal of the setup was to make it work with existing equipment. Actually if you have old knackered PC available you can put in a a WiFi card in it and connect to the printer directly. (You only would only need a monitor for the initial setup). I musta missed the original post. It sounds like you want to connect a printer to a router / wap and use it on an existing wireless network. I have my computer connected that way right now! I had a Linksys WAP11 originally, there is a setting in one of the menu's that allows it to operate basiclly in reverse, after you set it up you can unplug a wired system and plug in the AP and the system knows no difference. I just upgraded to a Buffalo WHR-G54S and did the same thing, so it can be done, it's all in the setup! I bought the Buffalo because it was $50 with $25 in rebates. HTH, Good Luck. Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
