Re: [opensuse] Any fcron users

2007-12-29 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
>> Quoting Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> The Thursday 2007-12-27 at 20:58 -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
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> Then you can create an script in /etc/cron.daily/
 Will it run every day, even if the system is suspended to disk at the 
 nominal
 scheduled time?
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> It will run when you awake it, if at least 24 hours have passed since the 
>>> last time it run.
>>>
>> It appears have run several minutes after wakeup.  From reading man pages, 
>> it
>> appears the lastrun file check is every 15 minutes.
>
> I believe you can make that more frequent by modifying
> root's crontab.  As I recall, the lastrun file is checked
> by a script which is started by a crontab entry.
>

Yes, I see it in /etc/crontab.  Every 15 minutes is fine for my purposes.

Thank you,
  Jeffrey
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Re: [opensuse] Any fcron users

2007-12-29 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

Quoting Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

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The Thursday 2007-12-27 at 20:58 -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:


Then you can create an script in /etc/cron.daily/
Will it run every day, even if the system is suspended to disk at the 
nominal

scheduled time?

Yes.

It will run when you awake it, if at least 24 hours have passed since the 
last time it run.




It appears have run several minutes after wakeup.  From reading man pages, it
appears the lastrun file check is every 15 minutes.


I believe you can make that more frequent by modifying
root's crontab.  As I recall, the lastrun file is checked
by a script which is started by a crontab entry.


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Re: [opensuse] Any fcron users

2007-12-29 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Friday 2007-12-28 at 22:24 -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:


It will run when you awake it, if at least 24 hours have passed since the
last time it run.


It appears have run several minutes after wakeup.  From reading man pages, it
appears the lastrun file check is every 15 minutes.


The check, yes. The actual run of the scripts, depends.

In the file /etc/sysconfig/cron there are some variables to adjust the 
hour preferred.


For instance:

# At which time cron.daily should start. Default is 15 minutes after booting
# the system. Due to the fact that cron script runs only every 15 minutes,
# it will only run on xx:00, xx:15, xx:30, xx:45, not at the accurate time
# you set.
DAILY_TIME=""

# Maximum days not running when using a fixed time set in DAILY_TIME.
# 0 to skip this. This is for users who will power off their system.
#
# There is a fixed max. of 14 days set,  if you want to override this
# change MAX_NOT_RUN_FORCE in /usr/lib/cron/run-crons
MAX_NOT_RUN="5"


So, say, you can tell it to run at 22 hours every night; but if the 
machine is off 5 days on a row at that hour, it will run at most 15 
minutes after boot (or awakening).



I would prefer the DAILY_TIME be a range of hours, not a single hour.


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Re: [opensuse] Any fcron users

2007-12-28 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> The Thursday 2007-12-27 at 20:58 -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
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>>> Then you can create an script in /etc/cron.daily/
>>
>> Will it run every day, even if the system is suspended to disk at the 
>> nominal
>> scheduled time?
>
> Yes.
>
> It will run when you awake it, if at least 24 hours have passed since the 
> last time it run.
>

It appears have run several minutes after wakeup.  From reading man pages, it
appears the lastrun file check is every 15 minutes.

Thanks all,
  Jeffrey
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Re: [opensuse] Any fcron users

2007-12-28 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Thursday 2007-12-27 at 20:58 -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:


Then you can create an script in /etc/cron.daily/


Will it run every day, even if the system is suspended to disk at the nominal
scheduled time?


Yes.

It will run when you awake it, if at least 24 hours have passed since the 
last time it run.


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Re: [opensuse] Any fcron users

2007-12-27 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Rajko M. wrote:

On Thursday 27 December 2007 08:58:07 pm Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

Quoting Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

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The Thursday 2007-12-27 at 17:11 -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

Has anyone used fcron from the OpenSuSE Build Service?  My laptop isn't
on 24x7 or even reliably on at any given time in the day.  There are
several jobs
that need to be run every day.

Then you can create an script in /etc/cron.daily/

Will it run every day, even if the system is suspended to disk at the
nominal scheduled time?


Once before it was running 15 min after boot if it missed schedule. 
I don't know about wake from suspend.


yes, the /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly} scripts each
touch a file, and then test the time that the file was last
touched to see if it should be run again.






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Re: [opensuse] Any fcron users

2007-12-27 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 27 December 2007 21:41, Rajko M. wrote:
> > > Then you can create an script in /etc/cron.daily/
> >
> > Will it run every day, even if the system is suspended to disk at the
> > nominal scheduled time?
>
> Once before it was running 15 min after boot if it missed schedule.
> I don't know about wake from suspend.
Yes, the purpose of cron.daily [on suse] is that the computer does not 
need 
to be on at the specified time... it will get run when the computer is turned 
on...within 15 minutes...  and this should include wake from suspend... but 
test it... 

   In general though, this takes scripting... which suse has done for you. 
Typically cron will only run if the machine is on, and only at the specified 
times. The scripting works by having cron check every 15 minutes and then 
against a directory called 
   /var/spool/cron/lastrun
   for files that have been touched... like cron.daily.

   If the cron.daily file exists then its been run, otherwise run it.  



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Re: [opensuse] Any fcron users

2007-12-27 Thread Rajko M.
On Thursday 27 December 2007 08:58:07 pm Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
> Quoting Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> > The Thursday 2007-12-27 at 17:11 -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
> >> Has anyone used fcron from the OpenSuSE Build Service?  My laptop isn't
> >> on 24x7 or even reliably on at any given time in the day.  There are
> >> several jobs
> >> that need to be run every day.
> >
> > Then you can create an script in /etc/cron.daily/
>
> Will it run every day, even if the system is suspended to disk at the
> nominal scheduled time?

Once before it was running 15 min after boot if it missed schedule. 
I don't know about wake from suspend. 

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Re: [opensuse] Any fcron users

2007-12-27 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> The Thursday 2007-12-27 at 17:11 -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
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>> Has anyone used fcron from the OpenSuSE Build Service?  My laptop isn't on
>> 24x7 or even reliably on at any given time in the day.  There are several 
>> jobs
>> that need to be run every day.
>
> Then you can create an script in /etc/cron.daily/
>

Will it run every day, even if the system is suspended to disk at the nominal
scheduled time?

TIA,
  Jeffrey
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Re: [opensuse] Any fcron users

2007-12-27 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Thursday 2007-12-27 at 17:11 -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:


Has anyone used fcron from the OpenSuSE Build Service?  My laptop isn't on
24x7 or even reliably on at any given time in the day.  There are several jobs
that need to be run every day.


Then you can create an script in /etc/cron.daily/

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