Re: [opensuse] Duel Screening

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Jesse Shaver wrote:

I have a Lenovo Thinkpad X61 with a dock. and a Samsung

 SynchMaster 915N 19 inch monitor. the laptop works great,
 but I can't get it to split the desktop across two screens.
 I have gone into SaX2 through YaST and my settings are:


Display 1: Intel 965 MGMonitor VESA [EMAIL PROTECTED] HZ
Display 2: Samsung SSYNCHMASTER 1280X1024

Xinerama Multihead is selected for the Dual Head Mode,

 and the arangement is 2 next to 1.


In this setting it simply clones the built in one (at

 1024x768) onto the larger one.


anyone have this working with a similar box/video card?


I think you should let them fight it out at 15 paces.

Oh..you mean DUAL screens.



thanks in advance,

-Jesse




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Re: [opensuse] Duel Screening

2008-01-28 Thread Neil
 I think you should let them fight it out at 15 paces.

 Oh..you mean DUAL screens.
LOL :D
Seriously: genious!
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Re: [opensuse] Duel Screening

2008-01-25 Thread Jesse Shaver
 What is the video card brand? Do they have native linux drivers? Did
 you install them? Did you try to config it using the native programs?

The card is an Intel 965G It has linux drivers that are installed and 
working. I tried configuring it with sax2, that did not work.

I have been playing with the xorg.conf file and have made some progress with 
xrandr which gives me the status as:
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1280 x 1280
VGA connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right) 376mm x 301mm
   1024x768   75.1 +   70.1 60.0
   1280x1024  60.0 +   75.0 59.9
   1152x864   75.0 74.8
   832x62474.6
   800x60072.2 75.0 60.3 56.2
   640x48075.0 72.8 66.7 60.0
   720x40070.1
   1024x768_6060.0*
LVDS connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right) 246mm x 185mm
   1024x768   50.0*+   60.0 40.0
   800x60060.3
   640x48060.0 59.9

(notice that on the first line: maximum [resalution =] 1280 x 1280


But this does not match my config file. From xorg.conf:

Section Screen
  Identifier   LScreen
  Device   Intel 965G
  Monitor  monitor-LVDS
  SubSection Display
Depth  16
Modes  1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480
Virtual2304 2304
  EndSubSection
EndSection
..
This is the only screen section, and notice the Virtual2304 2304... 
When I run: 
$xrandr --output VGA --right-of LVDS  
(which apears to be the command I want)
I get:
xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1280x1280 (desired size 2048x768)

I have restarted the computer with the hope that this will take effect, but it 
did not. How do I get my virtual screen size to change? (note that sax2 is 
probably not a good option as I just ripped out a lot of its extra stuff)

Thanks,

-Jesse


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Re: Top-Bottom Posting (was: Re: [opensuse] Duel Screening)

2008-01-24 Thread Neil
On Jan 23, 2008 3:10 PM, Donald D Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is an example of top-posting. In other words, my reply is posted at
 the top of this message. Now scroll all the way down to the bottom of
 this message to see an example of bottom posting and a longer
 explanation of posting models.

snip

 This is an example of bottom posting. In other words, my reply is posted
 at the bottom of the message. Which to use is a subject that takes on an
 almost religious fervor. Proponents of each posting model (see below)
 can give dozens of reasons why their model is best. In practice, the
 solution to which model is used is set by the owner(s) of the list. The
  owner(s) of this list appear to prefer bottom posting. A couple other
 things that can get you yelled at on this list is sending html mail and
 hijacking a thread. Hijacking is changing the topic being discussed
 without changing the subject line. See the subject line of this reply to
 see one way to change it. Okay. As promise here's some more info on the
 posting models, probably more than you want to know. Anyway...

snip

Okay I'll try and observe the simpel rule offered there: be a sheep
and folow the first one :P (just kiddin, It's a good idea)
If I read correctly I was the first one to reply and therefor set the
rule to toppost, true?
I personally prefer to read top posts. In the unlikely event I forgot
what the original message was about I can always read on. In top
posting you do not have to search where the new part starts. In bottom
posting you have to find where the reply started, and start reading
there. I am so unfocust I usually start reading what I already know,
so bottom posting costs me a lot of time. Top posts however, I can
simply start reading at the beginning and read the msg when I need it.

Neil
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Re: Top-Bottom Posting (was: Re: [opensuse] Duel Screening)

2008-01-24 Thread Sunny
On Jan 24, 2008 9:16 AM, Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I personally prefer to read top posts. In the unlikely event I forgot
 what the original message was about I can always read on. In top
 posting you do not have to search where the new part starts. In bottom
 posting you have to find where the reply started, and start reading
 there. I am so unfocust I usually start reading what I already know,
 so bottom posting costs me a lot of time. Top posts however, I can
 simply start reading at the beginning and read the msg when I need it.


Hi Neil,
I do appreciate your preference. But this list has it's rules,
(netiquette) and we all try to follow it as good guests. There were
thousands of discussions like this in the past, so there is no need of
a new one.

You are free to express yourself the way you like it - the consequence
will be that if you do not follow the list's netquette, you most
probably would not receive all the help you need, or your email will
end up filtered out by most of the old users, which are most likely
to be able to help you.

Here is a link to the list netiquette (you have received it with your
subscription email, but looks like you have missed it):
http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette

Cheers,
and welcome


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Re: Top-Bottom Posting (was: Re: [opensuse] Duel Screening)

2008-01-24 Thread Neil
On Jan 24, 2008 5:32 PM, Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Here is a link to the list netiquette (you have received it with your
 subscription email, but looks like you have missed it):
 http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette

Okay I skimmed over that when I signed up, must have missed that.
Thanks for the heads up

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Re: Top-Bottom Posting (was: Re: [opensuse] Duel Screening)

2008-01-24 Thread Steve Jeppesen
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:32:40 -0600
Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 24, 2008 9:16 AM, Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I personally prefer to read top posts.

 Hi Neil,
 I do appreciate your preference. 

Lets look at it from a different perspective.  Say you are a new user
to linux, suse, etc and you have a problem and are searching for an
answer.

You find a post here on the opensuse list that might have the answer
you are looking for, but when you are reading it, you find that the
responses appear to be out of order, because of personal tastes of
individuals who replied.  Now being a new user, are you going to be
able to sort thru that message and be able to put things in the order
they are suppose to be in (like performing certain steps in a certain
order)?

I agree, for personal email, or work-related email for that matter, top
posting is preferred.

But for mailing lists, newsgroups and the likes, bottom posting should
be preferred, not because of your personal preference, but for the
person who comes along in the future who may not have a clue to
anything and they will need to read the post in the order that it
should be in, from top to bottom.

Now if you're in China

0.02 and a half cents worth


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Re: [opensuse] Duel Screening

2008-01-23 Thread Neil
On 1/23/08, ba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 post
 top
 not
 do
 Please
 Please,

Do you mean I top posted? I am a newb, but I thought top posting was
something else. Waht did I do wrong?
Neil


  Hello
 
  What is the video card brand? Do they have native linux drivers? Did
  you install them? Did you try to config it using the native programs?
  I work with 3 monitors, and noticed Yast isn't simple when it gets to
  multiple monitors. I ended up modifying some of the xorg.conf file.
  Then again, my situation is quite complicated due to two vidcards
  (both Nvidia) and a wacom tablet.
 
  Neil
 
  On 1/18/08, Jesse Shaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have a Lenovo Thinkpad X61 with a dock. and a Samsung SynchMaster
   915N 19 inch monitor. the laptop works great, but I can't get it to
   split the desktop across two screens. I have gone into SaX2 through
   YaST and my settings are:
  
   Display 1: Intel 965 MGMonitor VESA [EMAIL PROTECTED] HZ
   Display 2: Samsung SSYNCHMASTER 1280X1024
  
   Xinerama Multihead is selected for the Dual Head Mode, and the
   arangement is 2 next to 1.
  
   In this setting it simply clones the built in one (at 1024x768)
   onto the larger one.
  
   anyone have this working with a similar box/video card?
  
   thanks in advance,
  
   -Jesse
  
  
 
 



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Top-Bottom Posting (was: Re: [opensuse] Duel Screening)

2008-01-23 Thread Donald D Henson
This is an example of top-posting. In other words, my reply is posted at
the top of this message. Now scroll all the way down to the bottom of
this message to see an example of bottom posting and a longer
explanation of posting models.

Neil wrote:
 On 1/23/08, ba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 post
 top
 not
 do
 Please
 Please,
 
 Do you mean I top posted? I am a newb, but I thought top posting was
 something else. Waht did I do wrong?
 Neil

 Hello

 What is the video card brand? Do they have native linux drivers? Did
 you install them? Did you try to config it using the native programs?
 I work with 3 monitors, and noticed Yast isn't simple when it gets to
 multiple monitors. I ended up modifying some of the xorg.conf file.
 Then again, my situation is quite complicated due to two vidcards
 (both Nvidia) and a wacom tablet.

 Neil

 On 1/18/08, Jesse Shaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a Lenovo Thinkpad X61 with a dock. and a Samsung SynchMaster
 915N 19 inch monitor. the laptop works great, but I can't get it to
 split the desktop across two screens. I have gone into SaX2 through
 YaST and my settings are:

 Display 1: Intel 965 MGMonitor VESA [EMAIL PROTECTED] HZ
 Display 2: Samsung SSYNCHMASTER 1280X1024

 Xinerama Multihead is selected for the Dual Head Mode, and the
 arangement is 2 next to 1.

 In this setting it simply clones the built in one (at 1024x768)
 onto the larger one.

 anyone have this working with a similar box/video card?

 thanks in advance,

 -Jesse


This is an example of bottom posting. In other words, my reply is posted
at the bottom of the message. Which to use is a subject that takes on an
almost religious fervor. Proponents of each posting model (see below)
can give dozens of reasons why their model is best. In practice, the
solution to which model is used is set by the owner(s) of the list. The
 owner(s) of this list appear to prefer bottom posting. A couple other
things that can get you yelled at on this list is sending html mail and
hijacking a thread. Hijacking is changing the topic being discussed
without changing the subject line. See the subject line of this reply to
see one way to change it. Okay. As promise here's some more info on the
posting models, probably more than you want to know. Anyway...

=

How to Post Replies

(Originally posted to an online University of Phoenix class.)

I have noticed that the postings here keep getting longer and longer,
making it difficult to determine who and what is being responded to. A
general rule is to edit out those parts that do not relate to your
reply. However, there are three response models to choose from.

1. Top Posting - This is where you put your reply at the top of the
message with all other earlier replies below. This appears to be the
model that UOP prefers. While top posting makes it easier for the person
replying, it makes it more difficult for a reader since she has to
scroll down to find the message you are replying to. Since the goal is
to get your point across, you should make it as easy as possible for
readers to figure out your point.

2. Bottom Posting - This is where you put your reply at the bottom of
the message with all other earlier replies above. While bottom posting
makes it more difficult for the person replying, it  makes it easier for
the reader, especially if this model is combined with appropriate
editing of the message you are replying to.

3. Dispersed Posting - This is where you insert your reply just below
the part of the message you are replying to. This may result in several
parts of a reply 'dispersed' throughout the message being replied to.
This is the most difficult for the person replying since it almost
requires editing but it results in better communications since the
reader has no problem figuring out what the reply is replying to.

While there is no model, there is one more situation that I refer to as
'random' posting. This occurs when some participants in a thread top
post, others bottom post, and a third may try to use dispersed posting,
all without regard to what has gone before. In these cases, it becomes
almost impossible to determine what the latest reply is replying to.
Unfortunately, this seems to happen a lot in the UOP forums. So, what do
you do in such a situation?

The rule I try to follow is to use whatever model was used earlier. In
other words, if the first reply is top-posted, then I will top post my
reply. If the first reply is bottom posted, I will bottom post my reply.
If everyone would follow this rule, the discussions would be much easier
to follow. But we cannot control those who will not comply. So, in order
to get your point across, it becomes incumbent on you to edit out
irrelevant parts of the message you are replying to so that there is no
doubt which part you are replying to. Remember that your posts must be
substantive in order to count toward participation. If I cannot figure
out what you are replying to, I may decide that it is not 

Re: Top-Bottom Posting (was: Re: [opensuse] Duel Screening)

2008-01-23 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Wednesday 2008-01-23 at 07:10 -0700, Donald D Henson wrote:


This is an example of bottom posting. In other words, my reply is posted
at the bottom of the message. Which to use is a subject that takes on an
almost religious fervor.


Proper bottom posting includes removing of superfluous text from the 
previous post; without doing that it is as bad as top posting.



A couple other
things that can get you yelled at on this list is sending html mail and
hijacking a thread. Hijacking is changing the topic being discussed
without changing the subject line.


X'-)

No, a hijack is attempting to post a new post to a list by hitting reply 
on any email from the list, changing the subject, and usually also 
removing the previous content. To the poster it appears as a new email, 
but it is not: it is a reply, and mail programs record that fact for ever.



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