Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-19 Thread G T Smith
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Greg Freemyer wrote:
 On Dec 17, 2007 8:31 PM, Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 17 December 2007 06:44:40 pm Greg Freemyer wrote:
 Another Save As anomaly is happening to me right now.

 I've created a bugzilla.  Bug 349422

 If others are having similar Save As issues, I'd appreciate some
 votes on the bug.

 Greg
 My message seems to be lost.
 Have you tried advice in this mail:
 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-12/msg01114.html

 That is another thread that you started on the same topic.
 I'll post this to bugzilla too.
 
 No I have not tried disabling locking.
 
 Since I'm only having problems (so far) when the doc is on a Samba
 share, I'd rather stay away from that approach.
 
 Greg

A problem I thought I had fixed by changing the oplock veto for a
particular samba share has resurfaced. I am now getting a repeat of the
issue where saving in Microsoft document formats to a cifs share fails
with the 'could not save backup copy' error message. (OO format save
without major problems).

To be honest I am not certain that the issue with OOCalc is related or
not, as to date I have had no problems with spreadsheet files, but I
have had some very bizarre issues with ODB files.

The 'backup copy' issue is an old problem (first reported elsewhere in
about 2005 for all documents), but the reason it now effects documents
of one format and not others is not clear to me. It does seem to be
associated with samba/cifs file locking on *NIX servers (AFAIK this is
not a problem with shares hosted on Windoze machines, I have yet to
perform a test on samba share from a Windoze session ).

This could be a timing issue, OO formats do lock for a while when
overwriting, but do not report errors.

In earlier versions of OO I did experience lock ups and crashes related
to this issue. But it was to some extent fixable by configuring the
locking options on the samba share concerned (IIRC the crashing stopped).

I did experiment with the OO share locking disabling suggestion
suggested elsewhere briefly. It did not fix the problem, and with the
particular way I tested it was implicated in a server thrash which took
out my server. (For obvious reasons I am not trying that one again :-)
)

I can live with this (I only save to MS formats if I need to share with
third parties). However, there is some evidence that either openOffice
is expecting samba/cifs to behave in a manner it does not, or is doing
something that samba/cifs does not support.

At the moment I cannot provide hard details on what is happening, (e.g.
logs of what open office is doing, what samba is doing etc). At some
point I will spend some time setting up an appropriate set of tests, and
then raise a more detailed report.



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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-19 Thread Greg Freemyer
On Dec 19, 2007 5:57 AM, G T Smith
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 Greg Freemyer wrote:
  On Dec 17, 2007 8:31 PM, Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Monday 17 December 2007 06:44:40 pm Greg Freemyer wrote:
  Another Save As anomaly is happening to me right now.
 
  I've created a bugzilla.  Bug 349422
 
  If others are having similar Save As issues, I'd appreciate some
  votes on the bug.
 
  Greg
  My message seems to be lost.
  Have you tried advice in this mail:
  http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-12/msg01114.html
 
  That is another thread that you started on the same topic.
  I'll post this to bugzilla too.
 
  No I have not tried disabling locking.
 
  Since I'm only having problems (so far) when the doc is on a Samba
  share, I'd rather stay away from that approach.
 
  Greg

 A problem I thought I had fixed by changing the oplock veto for a
 particular samba share has resurfaced. I am now getting a repeat of the
 issue where saving in Microsoft document formats to a cifs share fails
 with the 'could not save backup copy' error message. (OO format save
 without major problems).

 To be honest I am not certain that the issue with OOCalc is related or
 not, as to date I have had no problems with spreadsheet files, but I
 have had some very bizarre issues with ODB files.

 The 'backup copy' issue is an old problem (first reported elsewhere in
 about 2005 for all documents), but the reason it now effects documents
 of one format and not others is not clear to me. It does seem to be
 associated with samba/cifs file locking on *NIX servers (AFAIK this is
 not a problem with shares hosted on Windoze machines, I have yet to
 perform a test on samba share from a Windoze session ).

 This could be a timing issue, OO formats do lock for a while when
 overwriting, but do not report errors.

 In earlier versions of OO I did experience lock ups and crashes related
 to this issue. But it was to some extent fixable by configuring the
 locking options on the samba share concerned (IIRC the crashing stopped).

 I did experiment with the OO share locking disabling suggestion
 suggested elsewhere briefly. It did not fix the problem, and with the
 particular way I tested it was implicated in a server thrash which took
 out my server. (For obvious reasons I am not trying that one again :-)
 )

 I can live with this (I only save to MS formats if I need to share with
 third parties). However, there is some evidence that either openOffice
 is expecting samba/cifs to behave in a manner it does not, or is doing
 something that samba/cifs does not support.

 At the moment I cannot provide hard details on what is happening, (e.g.
 logs of what open office is doing, what samba is doing etc). At some
 point I will spend some time setting up an appropriate set of tests, and
 then raise a more detailed report.

G,

Just want to highlight, my issue is with the display of the Save As
dialog box.  Not the actual saving of files.

I have not had an issue where I got the display to show up correctly,
that I could not do the actual file write.  Not sure how often I've
succeeded either.  This is my office desktop, so I'm using primarily
MS doc formats.

Maybe I should revert to SLED?  I assume it gets tested in office
scenarios more than 10.3  Does it allow VMware Server to be setup?
Don't see why not, but I do need XP still.

Greg
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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-18 Thread Greg Freemyer
On Dec 17, 2007 8:31 PM, Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 17 December 2007 06:44:40 pm Greg Freemyer wrote:
  Another Save As anomaly is happening to me right now.
 
  I've created a bugzilla.  Bug 349422
 
  If others are having similar Save As issues, I'd appreciate some
  votes on the bug.
 
  Greg

 My message seems to be lost.
 Have you tried advice in this mail:
 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-12/msg01114.html

 That is another thread that you started on the same topic.
 I'll post this to bugzilla too.

No I have not tried disabling locking.

Since I'm only having problems (so far) when the doc is on a Samba
share, I'd rather stay away from that approach.

Greg
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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-17 Thread Greg Freemyer
Another Save As anomaly is happening to me right now.

I've created a bugzilla.  Bug 349422

If others are having similar Save As issues, I'd appreciate some
votes on the bug.

Greg

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On Dec 12, 2007 1:31 PM, Greg Freemyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 12, 2007 5:25 AM, Jan Holesovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Greg,
 
  On Sunday 09 of December 2007, Greg Freemyer wrote:
   I find this hard to believe, but I'm able to repeatably lock my GUI
   (KDE) via oocalc and a simple file - save as command.
  
   If I cntrl-alt-F2 and use that console to kill oocalc associated
   process, everything is working again.
  
   Very strange.  Do other people have this problem?
  
   I'm running OO 2.3.0 build 2.3.0.1.3 from the Open Office Build Service.
 
  As others is this thread suggested that it could be something with the X
  driver, what graphics card/driver are you using, please?
 
  [Please, keep me cc'd, I'm not on the list.  I'm interested because I am the
  author of the KDE Save As dialog in OOo ;-)]
 
  Regards,
  Jan
 
 Jan,

 I'm happy to keep troubleshooting if you have any specific suggestions, but 
 ...

 The problem went away after a couple of hours.  I had not done a
 software update, so it was not due to a fix.  The problem was simply
 temporary.

 Currently it takes a couple seconds for the Save As dialog to show
 up.  Not sure if that is normal or not.  I'm new to truly using the
 KDE as my office desktop.

 When the problem was occurring, the dialog box never opened.  And I
 could generate it by simply typing oocalc in konsole, then clicking
 file-save as.  No debug messages were displayed in the konsole tab.

 I'm guessing that clicking Save As caused something in the KDE event
 processing logic to stall.  The mouse would move, but I got no
 feedback when I clicked on various things.

 The only keyboard activity I noticed that worked was cntrl-alt-F2, and
 also alt-tab.

 If I used alt-tab to select most of the things I had running, then no
 effect from that either.

 OTOH, if I used alt-tab to select a konsole program I had running, it
 came to the foreground and I was able to interact with it by typing
 commands.  I don't remember trying to change to different konsole tab.

 Hope that helps,

 Greg
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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-17 Thread Rajko M.
On Monday 17 December 2007 06:44:40 pm Greg Freemyer wrote:
 Another Save As anomaly is happening to me right now.

 I've created a bugzilla.  Bug 349422

 If others are having similar Save As issues, I'd appreciate some
 votes on the bug.

 Greg

My message seems to be lost.
Have you tried advice in this mail:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-12/msg01114.html

That is another thread that you started on the same topic.
I'll post this to bugzilla too.  

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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-12 Thread Russell Jones

Dave Howorth wrote:

On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 15:57 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
  

On Dec 9, 2007 3:28 PM, Volker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I had this problem from the very beginning of my out-of-the-box install and no
solution yet.
  

A couple hours later and my problem disappeared. Hope you figure
yours out as well.



To anybody that has the problem ... it is perhaps worth starting ooo
from a terminal and seeing if it outputs any diagnostics when things go
wrong. It might also be easier to kill it :)

Cheers, Dave
  

You can store the warning/error messages with
oocalc  oocalc.log

Also, try running it with strace, e.g.
strace -f oocalc  oocalc.strace.log

You might get a clue about the cause in the log file. The OOo messages 
will be in there too, with more context.


Oh, and IME Beagle is a dog, at least under 10.2 There's a clue in the 
name ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-12 Thread Greg Freemyer
On Dec 12, 2007 5:25 AM, Jan Holesovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Greg,

 On Sunday 09 of December 2007, Greg Freemyer wrote:
  I find this hard to believe, but I'm able to repeatably lock my GUI
  (KDE) via oocalc and a simple file - save as command.
 
  If I cntrl-alt-F2 and use that console to kill oocalc associated
  process, everything is working again.
 
  Very strange.  Do other people have this problem?
 
  I'm running OO 2.3.0 build 2.3.0.1.3 from the Open Office Build Service.

 As others is this thread suggested that it could be something with the X
 driver, what graphics card/driver are you using, please?

 [Please, keep me cc'd, I'm not on the list.  I'm interested because I am the
 author of the KDE Save As dialog in OOo ;-)]

 Regards,
 Jan

Jan,

I'm happy to keep troubleshooting if you have any specific suggestions, but ...

The problem went away after a couple of hours.  I had not done a
software update, so it was not due to a fix.  The problem was simply
temporary.

Currently it takes a couple seconds for the Save As dialog to show
up.  Not sure if that is normal or not.  I'm new to truly using the
KDE as my office desktop.

When the problem was occurring, the dialog box never opened.  And I
could generate it by simply typing oocalc in konsole, then clicking
file-save as.  No debug messages were displayed in the konsole tab.

I'm guessing that clicking Save As caused something in the KDE event
processing logic to stall.  The mouse would move, but I got no
feedback when I clicked on various things.

The only keyboard activity I noticed that worked was cntrl-alt-F2, and
also alt-tab.

If I used alt-tab to select most of the things I had running, then no
effect from that either.

OTOH, if I used alt-tab to select a konsole program I had running, it
came to the foreground and I was able to interact with it by typing
commands.  I don't remember trying to change to different konsole tab.

Hope that helps,
Greg
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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-10 Thread Dave Howorth
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 * Dave Howorth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-09-07 19:56]:
 To anybody that has the problem ... it is perhaps worth starting ooo
 from a terminal and seeing if it outputs any diagnostics when things go
 wrong. It might also be easier to kill it :)
 
 Nope, freezes the X display, all but the mouse pointer  :^(
 
 and you cannot recover, even by ssh'ing in and restarting xdm or
 dropping to runlevel 3 or 1.  Only a system restart recovers!

Interesting. There appears to be more than one problem. From the message
that started the thread:

Greg Freemyer wrote:
 I find this hard to believe, but I'm able to repeatably lock my GUI
 (KDE) via oocalc and a simple file - save as command.

 If I cntrl-alt-F2 and use that console to kill oocalc associated
 process, everything is working again.

Greg's last para and Patrick's apparently describe different problems.

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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-10 Thread John (raz0r)
On Dec 9, 2007 8:19 PM, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  To anybody that has the problem ... it is perhaps worth starting ooo
  from a terminal and seeing if it outputs any diagnostics when things go
  wrong. It might also be easier to kill it :)

 Nope, freezes the X display, all but the mouse pointer  :^(

 and you cannot recover, even by ssh'ing in and restarting xdm or
 dropping to runlevel 3 or 1.  Only a system restart recovers!

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I run into this problem, only I don't have to restart.  I hit
ctrl+alt+f1, log in, and su to root.  I init 3 and ps my username.  I
then kill all my username processes.  After that is done, I init 5 and
I'm back in business.  No reboot.

After X is back up and running, I can then go back to oocalc and the
same thing that locked up X doesn't anymore.  I go a couple of days
w/o problems with oocalc, then it starts all over.

Then I just rinse and repeat.  It's a pain.  I've tried updating,
turning off the use of java.  I'll try the suggestion about 3D to see
of that helps.
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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-10 Thread John (raz0r)
Let me add that I've run into this on my 10.2 x86_64 box, but not on
my 10.2 x86 box or my 10.3 x86 laptop.

On Dec 10, 2007 8:14 AM, John (raz0r) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  * Dave Howorth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-09-07 19:56]:
   To anybody that has the problem ... it is perhaps worth starting ooo
   from a terminal and seeing if it outputs any diagnostics when things go
   wrong. It might also be easier to kill it :)
 
  Nope, freezes the X display, all but the mouse pointer  :^(
 
  and you cannot recover, even by ssh'ing in and restarting xdm or
  dropping to runlevel 3 or 1.  Only a system restart recovers!
 
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 I run into this problem, only I don't have to restart.  I hit
 ctrl+alt+f1, log in, and su to root.  I init 3 and ps my username.  I
 then kill all my username processes.  After that is done, I init 5 and
 I'm back in business.  No reboot.

 After X is back up and running, I can then go back to oocalc and the
 same thing that locked up X doesn't anymore.  I go a couple of days
 w/o problems with oocalc, then it starts all over.

 Then I just rinse and repeat.  It's a pain.  I've tried updating,
 turning off the use of java.  I'll try the suggestion about 3D to see
 of that helps.

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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-10 Thread Greg Freemyer
On Dec 9, 2007 7:54 PM, Dave Howorth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 15:57 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
  On Dec 9, 2007 3:28 PM, Volker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I had this problem from the very beginning of my out-of-the-box install 
   and no
   solution yet.
 
  A couple hours later and my problem disappeared. Hope you figure
  yours out as well.

 To anybody that has the problem ... it is perhaps worth starting ooo
 from a terminal and seeing if it outputs any diagnostics when things go
 wrong. It might also be easier to kill it :)


By chance that is how I was running it when I had problems.  (I really
am a CLI guy at heart.)

No diagnostics at all.  And I looked in /var/log/*.  Nothing there
seemed relevant either.

As to the level of lockup, within KDE I was able to alt-tab and bring
up the list of icons, but most choices had no effect.  OTOH, I was
able to alt-tab to my konsole window and then I was interactive from
there.  So I don't think I had any kind of kernel issue.  It seemed to
be KDE itself that was blocking mouse clicks, etc.  I don't remember
trying to click on any of the Konsole tabs to see if that would work.

And yes, once I killed the OO app I was golden, but simply typing
oocalc at the command line, then clicking file - save as put me
back under the bus.

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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
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* John (raz0r) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-10-07 08:20]:
 I run into this problem, only I don't have to restart.  I hit
 ctrl+alt+f1, log in, and su to root.  I init 3 and ps my username.  I
 then kill all my username processes.  After that is done, I init 5 and
 I'm back in business.  No reboot.

I would, but have no keyboard.  BUT, ssh from another machine, then
restarting xdm or dropping to runlevels 3 or 1 do not unfreeze the
display or enable the keyboard.  ONLY a system restart recovers.

I just reconfirmed above, result was forced restart.

BUT, now I can start oocalc (didn't try any others) and work as
expected, appears fully functional.

go figure  ?

one thing, I did uncomment 'noopengl' in /usr/bin/soffice.

# Uncomment the line below if you suspect that OpenGL is not
# working on your system.
SAL_NOOPENGL=true; export SAL_NOOPENGL


but I did this prior to the last test which forced a restart.  The
code should not have any more effect after the restart than prior ??

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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-10 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Monday 10 December 2007 13:14, John (raz0r) wrote:
 After X is back up and running, I can then go back to oocalc and the
 same thing that locked up X doesn't anymore.  I go a couple of days
 w/o problems with oocalc, then it starts all over.

Wasn't there a thread a few weeks ago about OO freezes, where the problem was 
eventually traced to an upstream bug in xorg-z11-server?  I believe one of 
the SUSE guys sent the fix upstream, and posted a new package.  Try upgrading 
to that and see what happens.

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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-10 Thread Rajko M.
On Sunday 09 December 2007 01:07:46 pm Greg Freemyer wrote:
 I find this hard to believe, but I'm able to repeatably lock my GUI
 (KDE) via oocalc and a simple file - save as command.

 If I cntrl-alt-F2 and use that console to kill oocalc associated
 process, everything is working again.

 Very strange.  Do other people have this problem?

 I'm running OO 2.3.0 build 2.3.0.1.3 from the Open Office Build Service.


Hi Greg, can you check:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-12/msg01026.html
the option offered by Paul Constable.


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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-09 Thread Bryen

On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 14:07 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
 I find this hard to believe, but I'm able to repeatably lock my GUI
 (KDE) via oocalc and a simple file - save as command.
 
 If I cntrl-alt-F2 and use that console to kill oocalc associated
 process, everything is working again.
 
 Very strange.  Do other people have this problem?
 
 I'm running OO 2.3.0 build 2.3.0.1.3 from the Open Office Build Service.
 
 Greg

I had a similar problem under GNOME that was traced back to the CRUX
desktop theme.  Once I changed to a different desktop theme, the problem
went away.   I don't know much about KDE, but if you can change desktop
themes, try that and then see if it doesn't lock up anymore.
 
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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-09 Thread Tom Patton
I upgraded yesterday from normal suse channels, (says build 2.3.0.1.3),
and just tried a save as to an .ods file with no problem.

Linux master 2.6.22.13-0.3-default #1 SMP 2007/11/19 15:02:58 UTC i686
athlon i386 GNU/Linux

using FVWM as desktop.

Tom in NM


On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 14:07 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
 I find this hard to believe, but I'm able to repeatably lock my GUI
 (KDE) via oocalc and a simple file - save as command.
 
 If I cntrl-alt-F2 and use that console to kill oocalc associated
 process, everything is working again.
 
 Very strange.  Do other people have this problem?
 
 I'm running OO 2.3.0 build 2.3.0.1.3 from the Open Office Build Service.
 
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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-09 Thread Greg Freemyer
On Dec 9, 2007 2:26 PM, Bryen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 14:07 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
  I find this hard to believe, but I'm able to repeatably lock my GUI
  (KDE) via oocalc and a simple file - save as command.
 
  If I cntrl-alt-F2 and use that console to kill oocalc associated
  process, everything is working again.
 
  Very strange.  Do other people have this problem?
 
  I'm running OO 2.3.0 build 2.3.0.1.3 from the Open Office Build Service.
 
  Greg

 I had a similar problem under GNOME that was traced back to the CRUX
 desktop theme.  Once I changed to a different desktop theme, the problem
 went away.   I don't know much about KDE, but if you can change desktop
 themes, try that and then see if it doesn't lock up anymore.
 
  ---Bryen---

I'm running the out of the box theme.  Haven't yet experimented with
that aspect of KDE.

I just did a right-click configure desktop and don't see an easy way
to set a theme.

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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-09 Thread Greg Freemyer
Strange,

An hour later I can no longer reproduce the problem.

I have _not_ logged out/rebooted/etc.  So no idea what would have
cleared up the problem.

Greg

On Dec 9, 2007 2:39 PM, Greg Freemyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 9, 2007 2:26 PM, Bryen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 14:07 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
   I find this hard to believe, but I'm able to repeatably lock my GUI
   (KDE) via oocalc and a simple file - save as command.
  
   If I cntrl-alt-F2 and use that console to kill oocalc associated
   process, everything is working again.
  
   Very strange.  Do other people have this problem?
  
   I'm running OO 2.3.0 build 2.3.0.1.3 from the Open Office Build Service.
  
   Greg
 
  I had a similar problem under GNOME that was traced back to the CRUX
  desktop theme.  Once I changed to a different desktop theme, the problem
  went away.   I don't know much about KDE, but if you can change desktop
  themes, try that and then see if it doesn't lock up anymore.
  
   ---Bryen---

 I'm running the out of the box theme.  Haven't yet experimented with
 that aspect of KDE.

 I just did a right-click configure desktop and don't see an easy way
 to set a theme.


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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-09 Thread Volker
Am Sonntag, 9. Dezember 2007 20:07:46 schrieb Greg Freemyer:
 I find this hard to believe, but I'm able to repeatably lock my GUI
 (KDE) via oocalc and a simple file - save as command.

 If I cntrl-alt-F2 and use that console to kill oocalc associated
 process, everything is working again.

 Very strange.  Do other people have this problem?

 I'm running OO 2.3.0 build 2.3.0.1.3 from the Open Office Build Service.

Similar problem here: OOo stalls on open, save, save as. It seems to be unable 
to bring up the kde file requester. Problem doesn't appear using window maker 
(haven't tried gnome yet).

I had this problem from the very beginning of my out-of-the-box install and no 
solution yet.
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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-09 Thread Greg Freemyer
On Dec 9, 2007 3:28 PM, Volker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 9. Dezember 2007 20:07:46 schrieb Greg Freemyer:
  I find this hard to believe, but I'm able to repeatably lock my GUI
  (KDE) via oocalc and a simple file - save as command.
 
  If I cntrl-alt-F2 and use that console to kill oocalc associated
  process, everything is working again.
 
  Very strange.  Do other people have this problem?
 
  I'm running OO 2.3.0 build 2.3.0.1.3 from the Open Office Build Service.

 Similar problem here: OOo stalls on open, save, save as. It seems to be unable
 to bring up the kde file requester. Problem doesn't appear using window maker
 (haven't tried gnome yet).

 I had this problem from the very beginning of my out-of-the-box install and no
 solution yet.

A couple hours later and my problem disappeared. Hope you figure
yours out as well.

Greg
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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-09 Thread Dave Howorth
On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 15:57 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
 On Dec 9, 2007 3:28 PM, Volker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I had this problem from the very beginning of my out-of-the-box install and 
  no
  solution yet.
 
 A couple hours later and my problem disappeared. Hope you figure
 yours out as well.

To anybody that has the problem ... it is perhaps worth starting ooo
from a terminal and seeing if it outputs any diagnostics when things go
wrong. It might also be easier to kill it :)

Cheers, Dave
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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
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* Dave Howorth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-09-07 19:56]:
 To anybody that has the problem ... it is perhaps worth starting ooo
 from a terminal and seeing if it outputs any diagnostics when things go
 wrong. It might also be easier to kill it :)

Nope, freezes the X display, all but the mouse pointer  :^(

and you cannot recover, even by ssh'ing in and restarting xdm or
dropping to runlevel 3 or 1.  Only a system restart recovers!

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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-09 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Sunday 2007-12-09 at 20:19 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:


Nope, freezes the X display, all but the mouse pointer  :^(

and you cannot recover, even by ssh'ing in and restarting xdm or
dropping to runlevel 3 or 1.  Only a system restart recovers!


OOo can use some 3D effects: try disabling them. Also, you can choose to 
use dialogs from OOo or via gnome/kde/whatever: try changing that, 
switching to the other type of dialog.


Those two things have been known in the past to cause problems to OOo. I 
vote for 3D :-)


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Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?

2007-12-09 Thread Tom Patton

On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 15:57 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
 On Dec 9, 2007 3:28 PM, Volker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Am Sonntag, 9. Dezember 2007 20:07:46 schrieb Greg Freemyer:
   I find this hard to believe, but I'm able to repeatably lock my GUI
   (KDE) via oocalc and a simple file - save as command.
  
   If I cntrl-alt-F2 and use that console to kill oocalc associated
   process, everything is working again.
  
   Very strange.  Do other people have this problem?
  
   I'm running OO 2.3.0 build 2.3.0.1.3 from the Open Office Build Service.
 
 
Oddly enough, now I am seeing a problem that might be related...

I don't use KDE much, but my wife does, and when she logs on, the system
seems to hang for several (5-7) minutes after saving a web page in
Firefox, or a spreadsheet in OO.  So much so that if she logs off her
session, it appears the X-server has died.  (no NumLoc key, etc.).  I
ssh'd in and Beagle was eating my entire CPU...

Three times now, by the time I walked back into this room, KDM had
finally returned to allow me to log on.  I then checked, and Beagle was
idle...

So I retract my earlier post that OO was working fine for me...I wasn't
using it in KDE.  I wonder if Beagle is getting a lock on the
scheduler?

More checking here required!

Tom in NM

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