Re: [opensuse] What the hell does zypper

2008-01-21 Thread Joe Sloan
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Since I installed 10.3, I notice an awfull lot of disc activities during the, 
> say, five minutes following boot. I've suspected beagle,but if I run top I 
> see 
> that the culprit seems to be "zypper". I can't figure out what it's doing, 
> but it's eating up to 97% of my CPU time at moments.
> 
> I've done some search, but I am not sure if I could reduce zypper's activity, 
> or simply remove it? Seems to be used by Yast2 for package management, but 
> can Yast2 do without?

Every time you log in and start a desktop session, zypper checks for
updates. That should finish fairly soon, it only checks at startup.

Joe
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Re: [opensuse] What the hell does zypper

2008-01-21 Thread Bryen
libzyp is the backend for zypper and software updates.   When you boot
your computer, your computer is checking for any updates.   I'd want
this kept on so I can be aware of any security notices.

Yours may be slower because of the number of repositories you have
enabled that zypper searches for updates.


On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 20:20 +0100, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Since I installed 10.3, I notice an awfull lot of disc activities during the, 
> say, five minutes following boot. I've suspected beagle,but if I run top I 
> see 
> that the culprit seems to be "zypper". I can't figure out what it's doing, 
> but it's eating up to 97% of my CPU time at moments.
> 
> I've done some search, but I am not sure if I could reduce zypper's activity, 
> or simply remove it? Seems to be used by Yast2 for package management, but 
> can Yast2 do without?
> 
> Thierry
> 
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Re: [opensuse] What the hell does zypper

2008-01-21 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Monday 2008-01-21 at 20:20 +0100, Thierry de Coulon wrote:


I've done some search, but I am not sure if I could reduce zypper's activity,
or simply remove it? Seems to be used by Yast2 for package management, but
can Yast2 do without?


It's an applet somewhere on your taskbar, and of course you can dissable 
it - but then remember to manually check for updates using Yast instead.


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Re: [opensuse] What the hell does zypper

2008-01-21 Thread JB2
On Mon 21 January 08 13:43, Bryen wrote:

   

  Please don't top-post.

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Re: [opensuse] What the hell does zypper

2008-01-21 Thread Bryen

On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 20:04 -0600, JB2 wrote:
> On Mon 21 January 08 13:43, Bryen wrote:
> 
>
> 
>   Please don't top-post.

My apologies.  I normally don't top-post as you can see evidence from my
previous postings.   But, as mentioned in a different thread, I had just
been finished writing a slew of posts to several blind-user mailing
lists where top-posting is the preferred method.  Then immediately
afterwards, I posted here to this topic.  My mind hadn't unjarred yet to
the fact that at the moment, I wasn't those lists.  Gets to be tricky at
times changing my methods on one list versus another.  Again, my
apologies for this momentary lapse.


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Re: [opensuse] What the hell does zypper

2008-01-22 Thread David C. Rankin

Thierry de Coulon wrote:

Hello,

Since I installed 10.3, I notice an awfull lot of disc activities during the, 
say, five minutes following boot. I've suspected beagle,but if I run top I see 
that the culprit seems to be "zypper". I can't figure out what it's doing, 
but it's eating up to 97% of my CPU time at moments.


I've done some search, but I am not sure if I could reduce zypper's activity, 
or simply remove it? Seems to be used by Yast2 for package management, but 
can Yast2 do without?


Thierry



(Re: post from Yesterday)

Modifying this behavior is simple. Just right-click opensuseupdater in 
the sys tray, choose quit and then click "do not start on login" (or 
something similar). This will disable online update from running every 
time you login and stop the automaitc refresh of all repositories.


This is no big deal, I run that way. Just remember you must manually do 
the yast->online update once in a while.


Depending on whether you use Beagle search index, you will also want to 
either (1) disable Beagle in control center, or (2) remove it completely 
with "rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry" from the command line as root.


After making those two modifications, you will not experience any more 
slowdown during the first 5-10 minutes after login. Online update and 
beagle are the problems.


For online update the solution is to configure yast->software->configure 
online update. You can set online update to run weekly/monthly, etc. 
That way you can still stay current on updates without it running on 
every login.




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Re: [opensuse] What the hell does zypper

2008-01-22 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Tuesday 2008-01-22 at 07:53 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:

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After making those two modifications, you will not experience any more 
slowdown during the first 5-10 minutes after login. Online update and beagle 
are the problems.


Ha! You forget 'locate' and 'updatedb', and a bunch of other cron fired 
activities :-p


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Re: [opensuse] What the hell does zypper

2008-01-23 Thread David C. Rankin

Carlos E. R. wrote:



The Tuesday 2008-01-22 at 07:53 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:

...

After making those two modifications, you will not experience any more 
slowdown during the first 5-10 minutes after login. Online update and 
beagle are the problems.


Ha! You forget 'locate' and 'updatedb', and a bunch of other cron fired 
activities :-p


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Hell, if that's all I have forgotten in the past two days, I'm doing 
good :-)


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