Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-13 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 19:29 -0500, dwain wrote:
> OK. I have the Samba client and windbind installed.  I can see the two win 
> boxes in SMB shares.  I can use the printers.  Would someone please explain 
> how I get the two win boxes to see my linux box?
> 
> Dwain

Did you create any shares for the MS boxes to see?

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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-13 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-04-13 18:29, dwain wrote:
> OK. I have the Samba client and windbind installed.  I can see the two win 
> boxes in SMB shares.  I can use the printers.  Would someone please explain 
> how I get the two win boxes to see my linux box?
>
> Dwain
>   
Is nmbd running?

Do you have the firewall open on the appropriate ports? (137:139 and 445
for TCP, 137 for UDP). Are you allowing broadcasts on port 137?
(FW_ALLOW_FW_BROADCAST_INT in /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2).

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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-13 Thread dwain
On Friday 13 April 2007, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 19:29 -0500, dwain wrote:
> > OK. I have the Samba client and windbind installed.  I can see the two
> > win boxes in SMB shares.  I can use the printers.  Would someone please
> > explain how I get the two win boxes to see my linux box?
> >
> > Dwain
>
> Did you create any shares for the MS boxes to see?
>
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What does this mean?  Create a folder on the linux box for the 2 windows 
boxes?  How do I go about doing this?

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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-13 Thread dwain
On Friday 13 April 2007, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> On 2007-04-13 18:29, dwain wrote:
> > OK. I have the Samba client and windbind installed.  I can see the two
> > win boxes in SMB shares.  I can use the printers.  Would someone please
> > explain how I get the two win boxes to see my linux box?
> >
> > Dwain
>
> Is nmbd running?

I don't know, what is it?  How do I check to see that it is?

>
> Do you have the firewall open on the appropriate ports? (137:139 and 445
> for TCP, 137 for UDP). Are you allowing broadcasts on port 137?
> (FW_ALLOW_FW_BROADCAST_INT in /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2).

The firewall on the router takes care of the security; and the linux firewall 
is off.

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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-13 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 21:22 -0500, dwain wrote:
> On Friday 13 April 2007, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 19:29 -0500, dwain wrote:
> > > OK. I have the Samba client and windbind installed.  I can see the two
> > > win boxes in SMB shares.  I can use the printers.  Would someone please
> > > explain how I get the two win boxes to see my linux box?
> > >
> > > Dwain
> >
> > Did you create any shares for the MS boxes to see?
> >
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> > UNIX  since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE  since 1998
> 
> What does this mean?  Create a folder on the linux box for the 2 windows 
> boxes?  How do I go about doing this?
> 

It means the same thing it means in windows, you need to create a shared
resource in order for the windows machines to access the linux box. Take
a look at the /etc/samba/smb.conf file. A good way to do this is with
the less command: less /etc/samba/smb.conf (to exit less just hit the q
key.

There should already be some shares defined that look like this:

[users]
comment = All users
path = /home
read only = No
inherit acls = Yes
veto files = /aquota.user/groups/shares/

One I have created looks like this:

[download]
comment = Download Area
inherit acls = Yes
path = /storage/download/
read only = No

Also look throughman smb.conf   for a little more info. You are on a
steep learning curve and appear to be doing a good job learning but it
will take more than a couple of weeks to get it all. I have been at this
for almost 20 years and and have barely scratched the surface so just
learn the best way you can. Stick with it and be patient.

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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-13 Thread Graham Smith
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, dwain wrote:
> On Friday 13 April 2007, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> > On 2007-04-13 18:29, dwain wrote:
> > > OK. I have the Samba client and windbind installed.  I can see the two
> > > win boxes in SMB shares.  I can use the printers.  Would someone please
> > > explain how I get the two win boxes to see my linux box?
> > >
> > > Dwain
> >
> > Is nmbd running?
>
> I don't know, what is it?  How do I check to see that it is?
>
nmbd - NetBIOS name server to provide NetBIOS over IP naming services to 
clients

man nmbd

Use the following command to see if it is running
ps -e | grep nmbd

To enable it you can use Yast --> System --> System Services
Then select "Expert Mode" and scroll down to nmb 
It should be set to run on levels 3, 5 --- Use the "Set/Reset" to change this.


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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-13 Thread dwain
On Friday 13 April 2007, Graham Smith wrote:
> > > Is nmbd running?
 no
>
> nmbd - NetBIOS name server to provide NetBIOS over IP naming services to
> clients
>
> man nmbd
either i don't know how or where to do this, but i tried from kde help and got 
nothing, tried from konqueor and got malformed url, tried from terminal and 
got no pages.
>
> Use the following command to see if it is running
> ps -e | grep nmbd
did this and returned to "login"(?) line displayed no information.
>
> To enable it you can use Yast --> System --> System Services
> Then select "Expert Mode" and scroll down to nmb

 did this and it wasn't there.



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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-13 Thread Kai Ponte
On Friday 13 April 2007 09:06:28 pm dwain wrote:
> On Friday 13 April 2007, Graham Smith wrote:
> > > > Is nmbd running?
>
>  no
>
> > nmbd - NetBIOS name server to provide NetBIOS over IP naming services to
> > clients
> >
> > man nmbd
>
> either i don't know how or where to do this, but i tried from kde help and
> got nothing, tried from konqueor and got malformed url, tried from terminal
> and got no pages.

Don't bother, man pages are less than useful. They are - IMO - harmful in 
general. They cause more confusion than assistance. Being in the text window, 
they're also hard to read.

http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/2047/1/

http://groups.northwestern.edu/exec/htmldocs/nmbd.8.html

>
> > Use the following command to see if it is running
> > ps -e | grep nmbd
>
> did this and returned to "login"(?) line displayed no information.

Mine says this:

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 2770 ?00:00:00 nmbd


>
> > To enable it you can use Yast --> System --> System Services
> > Then select "Expert Mode" and scroll down to nmb
>
>  did this and it wasn't there.

Should be under nmb.  Scroll down. It will be there, if you have SAMBA 
installed.

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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-13 Thread dwain
On Friday 13 April 2007, Kai Ponte wrote:
> Should be under nmb.  Scroll down. It will be there, if you have SAMBA
> installed.

samba server?

dwain


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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-13 Thread Graham Smith
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, dwain wrote:
> On Friday 13 April 2007, Graham Smith wrote:
> > > > Is nmbd running?
>
>  no
>
> > nmbd - NetBIOS name server to provide NetBIOS over IP naming services to
> > clients
> >
> > man nmbd
>
> either i don't know how or where to do this, but i tried from kde help and
> got nothing, tried from konqueor and got malformed url, tried from terminal
> and got no pages.
The above command should be run in a terminal. you could try #nmbd in 
konqueror.

>
> > Use the following command to see if it is running
> > ps -e | grep nmbd
>
> did this and returned to "login"(?) line displayed no information.
>
> > To enable it you can use Yast --> System --> System Services
> > Then select "Expert Mode" and scroll down to nmb
>
>  did this and it wasn't there.

Open a terminal (konsole) and run the following command
whereis nmbd
you should get
nmbd: /usr/sbin/nmbd /usr/share/man/man8/nmbd.8.gz

If you don't it appears that something is mucked up in your install of samba.

Try the following command in a terminal
whereis smdb
you should get
smbd: /usr/sbin/smbd /usr/share/man/man8/smbd.8.gz

If you don't I suggest you reinstall samba using Yast.




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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-13 Thread Rajko M.
On Friday 13 April 2007 23:37, dwain wrote:
> samba server?
>
> dwain

Yes. It should be running. 
Console as root:
  rcnmb start
  rcsmb start
Client is used to see windows, server is used to share linux resources.
You may want to configure Samba. 
I would read 
  http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/
there are listed some examples how to configure Samba server for trusted 
network that simply work. 

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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-13 Thread dwain
On Saturday 14 April 2007, Graham Smith wrote:
> Open a terminal (konsole) and run the following command
> whereis nmbd
> you should get
> nmbd: /usr/sbin/nmbd /usr/share/man/man8/nmbd.8.gz

i did this and received exactly what you said.  where do i go from here to set 
up the network so my win boxes can see my computer.  in yast under windows 
domains i don't see any computers near me.

i'm really trying hard to get this, and also trying not to get real 
frustrated.  i like the challange, but it's beginning to wear me down for the 
day.

i think i can handle one more reply for the night and then i need to get some 
rest.

thanks for the help.

dwain


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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-13 Thread Graham Smith
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, dwain wrote:
> On Saturday 14 April 2007, Graham Smith wrote:
> > Open a terminal (konsole) and run the following command
> > whereis nmbd
> > you should get
> > nmbd: /usr/sbin/nmbd /usr/share/man/man8/nmbd.8.gz
>
> i did this and received exactly what you said.  where do i go from here to
> set up the network so my win boxes can see my computer.  in yast under
> windows domains i don't see any computers near me.
>
> i'm really trying hard to get this, and also trying not to get real
> frustrated.  i like the challange, but it's beginning to wear me down for
> the day.
>
> i think i can handle one more reply for the night and then i need to get
> some rest.
>
> thanks for the help.
>
> dwain

In the terminal switch to root using su -
then run
rcnmb restart
you should see something like
Shutting down Samba NMB daemondone
Starting Samba NMB daemon done

and it may be best to run
rcsmb restart
you should see something like
Shutting down Samba SMB daemondone
Starting Samba SMB daemon done

to check to see if they are running
rcnmb status
you should see
Checking for Samba NMB daemon running
and
rcsmb status
you should see
Checking for Samba SMB daemon running



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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-13 Thread dwain
On Saturday 14 April 2007, Graham Smith wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, dwain wrote:
> > On Saturday 14 April 2007, Graham Smith wrote:
> > > Open a terminal (konsole) and run the following command
> > > whereis nmbd
> > > you should get
> > > nmbd: /usr/sbin/nmbd /usr/share/man/man8/nmbd.8.gz
> >
> > i did this and received exactly what you said.  where do i go from here
> > to set up the network so my win boxes can see my computer.  in yast under
> > windows domains i don't see any computers near me.
> >
> > i'm really trying hard to get this, and also trying not to get real
> > frustrated.  i like the challange, but it's beginning to wear me down for
> > the day.
> >
> > i think i can handle one more reply for the night and then i need to get
> > some rest.
> >
> > thanks for the help.
> >
> > dwain
>
> In the terminal switch to root using su -
> then run
> rcnmb restart
> you should see something like
> Shutting down Samba NMB daemondone
> Starting Samba NMB daemon done
>
> and it may be best to run
> rcsmb restart
> you should see something like
> Shutting down Samba SMB daemondone
> Starting Samba SMB daemon done
>
> to check to see if they are running
> rcnmb status
> you should see
> Checking for Samba NMB daemon
> running and
> rcsmb status
> you should see
> Checking for Samba SMB daemon
> running

 did it all and received the results you said.

i'm going to bed, but i'll be at this set up tomorrow some time.

moochas gracious for the walk through.  this is pretty tough.  what a lesson.

dwain


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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-14 Thread G.T.Smith
Rajko M. wrote:
> On Friday 13 April 2007 23:37, dwain wrote:
>   
>> samba server?
>>
>> dwain
>> 
>
> Yes. It should be running. 
> Console as root:
>   rcnmb start
>   rcsmb start
> Client is used to see windows, server is used to share linux resources.
> You may want to configure Samba. 
> I would read 
>   http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/
> there are listed some examples how to configure Samba server for trusted 
> network that simply work. 
>
>   
If you install the samba-doc rpm you should get some of the major books
and tutorials (including the Samba by Example which does what the title
implies) you should find these under /usr/share/doc/packages/samba. 
As stated elsewhere samba configuration is not a trivial exercise
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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-14 Thread Dave Barton
 Original Message 
From: dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun 15 Apr 2007 06:41:12 EST

> Other than installing samba, I don't know what I did, but now I can see my 
> linux box on the windows machines.  Now I have some more questions, but will 
> hold off and let this "miraculous" event soak in.
> 
> What an adventure!
> 
> Dwain

Hi Dwain,

Now that you have successfully completed that exercise in mental
gymnastics ;) could you please send your public key to a key-server.
Signing your emails is meaningless if we cannot retrieve your public key.

Thanks

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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-14 Thread jfweber
On Sat April 14 2007, dwain scratched these words onto a coconut shell, 
hoping for an answer:
> Other than installing samba, I don't know what I did, but now I can
> see my linux box on the windows machines.  Now I have some more
> questions, but will hold off and let this "miraculous" event soak in.
>
> What an adventure!
>
> Dwain

yup! but strangely, once you go thru this sort of thing.. if you took  
notes, or saved the emails you find it's not so scarey the next time you 
have to get into the pool... just jump in, it'll work out fine..  

Congratulations on your new skill set. 
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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-14 Thread dwain
On Saturday 14 April 2007, Dave Barton wrote:
>  Original Message 
> From: dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun 15 Apr 2007 06:41:12 EST
>
> > Other than installing samba, I don't know what I did, but now I can see
> > my linux box on the windows machines.  Now I have some more questions,
> > but will hold off and let this "miraculous" event soak in.
> >
> > What an adventure!
> >
> > Dwain
>
> Hi Dwain,
>
> Now that you have successfully completed that exercise in mental
> gymnastics ;) could you please send your public key to a key-server.
> Signing your emails is meaningless if we cannot retrieve your public key.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave

I ask again, how do I do this through Kmail.  I sent the keys to M.I.T when I 
was using Thunderbird and I find no way of sending the keys through Kmail.  
In fact, I'm not sure how to get to the keys to send them any way.

Dwain

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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-14 Thread dwain
On Saturday 14 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat April 14 2007, dwain scratched these words onto a coconut shell,
>
> hoping for an answer:
> > Other than installing samba, I don't know what I did, but now I can
> > see my linux box on the windows machines.  Now I have some more
> > questions, but will hold off and let this "miraculous" event soak in.
> >
> > What an adventure!
> >
> > Dwain
>
> yup! but strangely, once you go thru this sort of thing.. if you took
> notes, or saved the emails you find it's not so scarey the next time you
> have to get into the pool... just jump in, it'll work out fine..
>
> Congratulations on your new skill set.
> ;-)
>
> --
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Thanks, I have a folder called "keepers" in Kmail that I save messages on how 
to do things and links to how to do things.  I also have a fairly good memory 
for an old guy and repetition helps with the long term memory.  I wouldn't be 
as far along as I am without this list and I am very appreciative of all the 
help I have received.  This is a real adventure for me and I finally feel a 
bit more secure with this OS than I felt with Windoze (I feel I can use this 
terminology now).

Dwain

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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-15 Thread Jos van Kan
dwain wrote:
> Other than installing samba, I don't know what I did, but now I can see my 
> linux box on the windows machines.  
(snip)
Lemme guess... You rebooted the windows machines? (evil grin)

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Re: [opensuse] setting up a home network

2007-04-15 Thread dwain
On Sunday 15 April 2007, Jos van Kan wrote:
> dwain wrote:
> > Other than installing samba, I don't know what I did, but now I can see
> > my linux box on the windows machines.
>
> (snip)
> Lemme guess... You rebooted the windows machines? (evil grin)
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No.  At least I don't remember rebooting it after I installed samba. :-o

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