Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-04 Thread jdd

steve reilly a écrit :


  wget http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv


a 130Mo file, need good dowload speed... (I have it, do you?)
jdd


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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-04 Thread jdd

jdd a écrit :

steve reilly a écrit :


  wget http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv


a 130Mo file, need good dowload speed... (I have it, do you?)
jdd


and I could rename it with an avi extension and read it 
(with sound) with VLC (VideoLan Media Player) - on openSUSE 10.1

jdd

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-04 Thread jdd

jdd a écrit :

steve reilly a écrit :


  wget http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv


a 130Mo file, need good dowload speed... (I have it, do you?)
jdd


notice than the beginning of the file is buggy, one must 
wait nearly 1 minute to get the image right. At the 
beginning there is only a fixed pannel, then black screen, 
then only the normal image (same direct from the web)

jdd

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-04 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2006-11-04 at 09:23 +0100, jdd wrote:

  wget http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv
  
  a 130Mo file, need good dowload speed... (I have it, do you?)

It took nearly two hours on my adsl. Not my fault, but novell's end.

 and I could rename it with an avi extension and read it (with sound) with
 VLC (VideoLan Media Player) - on openSUSE 10.1

«The monkey with silk dress is still a monkey» (Spanish saying)

I mean, the extension doesn't change a thing. Could you check which audio 
codec is VLC using to play it?

Or, do you know of a link that explains which codec needs each multimedia 
type?


Nice of Novell to put the webcast in an open format playable in linux, 
yes...

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-04 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Friday 2006-11-03 at 22:32 -0500, steve reilly wrote:

 I got the video by wget, but i think im having the same problem as someone 
 else no sound.
 
 plays fine when streaming though... streams from some omedia. something.

It should be a codec problem. Very nice of Novell, yes.

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-04 Thread jdd

Carlos E. R. a écrit :


and I could rename it with an avi extension and read it (with sound) with
VLC (VideoLan Media Player) - on openSUSE 10.1


«The monkey with silk dress is still a monkey» (Spanish saying)

I mean, the extension doesn't change a thing.


without the renaming, it was not opened...

 Could you check which audio

codec is VLC using to play it?


mp3 :-), 22050Hz

and FLV1 for video

probably VLC codecs, no other video reader (kefeine, 
codeiona, noatune, avidemux...) can do the job, may be 
because of the initial bug


I verified than even under windows xp, only VLC can read, 
probably because VLC go ahead the first buggy bytes



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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-04 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2006-11-04 at 12:27 +0100, jdd wrote:

  I mean, the extension doesn't change a thing.
 
 without the renaming, it was not opened...

xine does not care about the extension. It uses the file method or 
equivalent.

 
  Could you check which audio
  codec is VLC using to play it?
 
 mp3 :-), 22050Hz
 
 and FLV1 for video
 
 probably VLC codecs, no other video reader (kefeine, codeiona, noatune,
 avidemux...) can do the job, may be because of the initial bug


xine shows the video fine. I mean, it starts with the still, and about a 
minute later shows the people. I don't know if it is a bug, is just a 
still photo.

 I verified than even under windows xp, only VLC can read, probably because VLC
 go ahead the first buggy bytes

:-(

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-04 Thread T. Lodewick
Carlos E. R. wrote:

 xine shows the video fine. I mean, it starts with the still, and about a 
 minute later shows the people. I don't know if it is a bug, is just a 
 still photo.

thats the video. it starts that way, means it is not a video that starts
 with the people on the conference but with the still image and someone
telling the reporter the people ( mostly CEOs ) are there.

 I verified than even under windows xp, only VLC can read, probably because 
 VLC
 go ahead the first buggy bytes
 
 :-(
 

on windows XP, there was no problem to show the video ( but I have to
say that I have a) the new Mediaplayer 11 installed and b) also the
Flashplayer 9.

on my openSUSE I've watched the video with the FlashPlayer 9 Beta (
version 9.0.21.55 ). I didn't try any other player or to watch the
downloaded FLV-file directly.

regards,
JBScout

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-04 Thread steve reilly
On Saturday 04 November 2006 03:15, jdd wrote:

yup,  i have it too.  
put in on my server so i can show it at next 
lug meeting.  why does sound not work?


 steve reilly a écrit :
wget http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv

 a 130Mo file, need good dowload speed... (I have it, do you?)
 jdd

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-04 Thread steve reilly
On Saturday 04 November 2006 03:23, jdd wrote:

ill have to try vnc, dont have it installed.  thanks.


 jdd a écrit :
  steve reilly a écrit :
wget http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv
 
  a 130Mo file, need good dowload speed... (I have it, do you?)
  jdd

 and I could rename it with an avi extension and read it
 (with sound) with VLC (VideoLan Media Player) - on openSUSE 10.1
 jdd

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* steve reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-04-06 11:45]:
 On Saturday 04 November 2006 03:23, jdd wrote:
 
 ill have to try vnc, dont have it installed.  thanks.
 
 
  jdd a écrit :
   steve reilly a écrit :
 wget http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv
  
   a 130Mo file, need good dowload speed... (I have it, do you?)
   jdd
 
  and I could rename it with an avi extension and read it
  (with sound) with VLC (VideoLan Media Player) - on openSUSE 10.1
  jdd
 

Then you will have a problem with it.   VLC \= vnc
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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-04 Thread steve reilly
On Saturday 04 November 2006 11:49, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

lol my bad, i was just messing around with tightvnc  that was on my 
mind.


 * steve reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-04-06 11:45]:
  On Saturday 04 November 2006 03:23, jdd wrote:
 
  ill have to try vnc, dont have it installed.  thanks.
 
   jdd a écrit :
steve reilly a écrit :
  wget
http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv
   
a 130Mo file, need good dowload speed... (I have it, do you?)
jdd
  
   and I could rename it with an avi extension and read it
   (with sound) with VLC (VideoLan Media Player) - on openSUSE 10.1
   jdd

 Then you will have a problem with it.   VLC \= vnc

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread James Oakley
On Friday 03 November 2006 7:41 am, Joao Paulo Pires wrote:
 I visited http://www.babyfirsttv.com/ but I can't found the link of flash
 files in view source code. Any help? Where can I find getvideo url ?
 Best regards, Joao.

http://www.funktronics.ca/getvideo

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Friday 2006-11-03 at 11:27 -0400, James Oakley wrote:

 On Friday 03 November 2006 7:41 am, Joao Paulo Pires wrote:
  I visited http://www.babyfirsttv.com/ but I can't found the link of flash
  files in view source code. Any help? Where can I find getvideo url ?
  Best regards, Joao.
 
 http://www.funktronics.ca/getvideo

Is that a script to save flash streams to a file? I tried it on the Novell 
webcast and it doesn't work.

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread James Oakley
On Friday 03 November 2006 11:49 am, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Friday 2006-11-03 at 11:27 -0400, James Oakley wrote:
  On Friday 03 November 2006 7:41 am, Joao Paulo Pires wrote:
   I visited http://www.babyfirsttv.com/ but I can't found the link of
   flash files in view source code. Any help? Where can I find getvideo
   url ? Best regards, Joao.
 
  http://www.funktronics.ca/getvideo

 Is that a script to save flash streams to a file? I tried it on the Novell
 webcast and it doesn't work.

What's the URL?

If the src is specified through a javascript function, the script won't be 
able to download it, since it doesn't include a javascript interpreter. :-)

If the video is in a popup and not the url you pass it, you need to use the 
popup url. You can right-click and show the location bar to get it.

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Friday 2006-11-03 at 14:27 -0400, James Oakley wrote:

  Is that a script to save flash streams to a file? I tried it on the Novell
  webcast and it doesn't work.
 
 What's the URL?

Let me see. The main page is 
http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/webcast.html. From there, there 
are two links:

  Flash: http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/flash_stream.html
  WMP:   
http://metahost.origindigital.com/microsoft/20061102/ms_announcement_20061102_100.asx
   

 If the src is specified through a javascript function, the script won't be 
 able to download it, since it doesn't include a javascript interpreter. :-)
 
 If the video is in a popup and not the url you pass it, you need to use the 
 popup url. You can right-click and show the location bar to get it.

Let me try again. The flash link (novell) opens a flash pop up, that says 
buffering 38% and doesn't ever reach 100%. It is overloaded. Right click 
shows me a settings a menu and about macromedia flash 7. I can not see 
where it is downloading from, only transferring files from 
files1.novell.com at the bottom.

The windows media player link works opening xine. This one shows in the 
tittle bar the real link, that I have to copy by hand. Or, I can try 
Realplayer, that doesn't work, but is saves a handy file in 
/tmp/ms_announcement_20061102_100.asx, which I can open with less and see 
the real mms:wmv link. Lets try getvideo with that one:

  IOError: [Errno url error] unknown url type: 'mms'


So... No go. Ideas?


How do I get to know the real link for flash?

[...]

I have forced open the flash in a new firefox window, and in the menu I 
select show source. It is indeed javascript, and I see two links; I 
think it should be this one:

 http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv

I try getvideo with that one, seems to be working, the network usage 
goes up, but I don't see any file growing there. 

What am I missing?


The Novell webcast is useless. This morning it run interrupted, 
unintelligible. This evening it doesn't even run. The one from MS runs
fine even at high definition. One round to them.

My idea was to try save it to a file, an so be able to listen it, with 
pauses. Impossible so far.

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Hertweck


Joao Paulo Pires wrote:
 I visited http://www.babyfirsttv.com/ but I can't found the link of
 flash files in view source code. Any help?

Use Firefox, install the Add-On called UnPlug[1] - this should provide
you the URL of embedded objects which can then be downloaded.

Cheers,
Th.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2254/
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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread jdd

Carlos E. R. a écrit :


 http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/flash_stream.html


this run perfectly nice on my seamonkey stock (not to say I 
can save it :-()


jdd



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The Friday 2006-11-03 at 23:08 +0100, jdd wrote:

  http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/flash_stream.html
 
 this run perfectly nice on my seamonkey stock (not to say I can save it :-()

Then your network is better or nearer the source. Here I can't fill the 
buffer more that 40%, so it doesn't even start. Ah, the getvideo download 
saved nothing in two hours and a half, I just stopped it.

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread James Oakley
On Friday 03 November 2006 6:16 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Friday 2006-11-03 at 23:08 +0100, jdd wrote:
   http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/flash_stream.html
 
  this run perfectly nice on my seamonkey stock (not to say I can save it
  :-()

 Then your network is better or nearer the source. Here I can't fill the
 buffer more that 40%, so it doesn't even start. Ah, the getvideo download
 saved nothing in two hours and a half, I just stopped it.

The file is at http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv

The reason getvideo didn't save it is because it's loaded by javascript.

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Friday 2006-11-03 at 18:38 -0400, James Oakley wrote:

  Then your network is better or nearer the source. Here I can't fill the
  buffer more that 40%, so it doesn't even start. Ah, the getvideo download
  saved nothing in two hours and a half, I just stopped it.
 
 The file is at http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv
 
 The reason getvideo didn't save it is because it's loaded by javascript.

I had the following command running during two and a half hours, till I 
interrupted it:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/getvideo getvideo 
http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/cer/bin/getvideo, line 34, in ?
  page = urllib.urlopen(url).read()
File /usr/lib/python2.4/socket.py, line 285, in read
  data = self._sock.recv(recv_size)
  KeyboardInterrupt
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/getvideo 


and I got nothing.


However, if I tell mozilla to save mswebcast.flv, it says it's going to 
download 135 MiB at 30 KiB/s, it works.

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread steve reilly
On Friday 03 November 2006 17:08, jdd wrote:

it would be nice to be able to save a flash stream.


 Carlos E. R. a écrit :
   http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/flash_stream.html

 this run perfectly nice on my seamonkey stock (not to say I
 can save it :-()

 jdd

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

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The Friday 2006-11-03 at 19:39 -0500, steve reilly wrote:

 it would be nice to be able to save a flash stream.

Do it:

  wget http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv

The problem I have is playing it later. Video is ok, audio no:

 Video   Audio

Has:   yesno 
Handled:   yesyes
Ignore:no no
codec: Flash Video  unavailable
   (ffmpeg)


Does it mean that the saved file has no audio? It's useless, then.


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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread steve reilly
On Friday 03 November 2006 21:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:


lol, thats why im here, learn something new every day.   i was trying to right 
click on the link and save as   this was only saving the link not the file.

thanks.



 The Friday 2006-11-03 at 19:39 -0500, steve reilly wrote:
  it would be nice to be able to save a flash stream.

 Do it:

   wget http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv

 The problem I have is playing it later. Video is ok, audio no:

  Video   Audio

 Has:   yesno
 Handled:   yesyes
 Ignore:no no
 codec: Flash Video  unavailable
(ffmpeg)


 Does it mean that the saved file has no audio? It's useless, then.

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread James Oakley
On Friday 03 November 2006 7:22 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Friday 2006-11-03 at 18:38 -0400, James Oakley wrote:
   Then your network is better or nearer the source. Here I can't fill the
   buffer more that 40%, so it doesn't even start. Ah, the getvideo
   download saved nothing in two hours and a half, I just stopped it.
 
  The file is at
  http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv
 
  The reason getvideo didn't save it is because it's loaded by javascript.

 I had the following command running during two and a half hours, till I
 interrupted it:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/getvideo getvideo
 http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv Traceback
 (most recent call last):
 File /home/cer/bin/getvideo, line 34, in ?
   page = urllib.urlopen(url).read()
 File /usr/lib/python2.4/socket.py, line 285, in read
   data = self._sock.recv(recv_size)
   KeyboardInterrupt
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/getvideo

Ah. getvideo downloads objects parsed from html. I used it to save videos by 
handing it the url from my browser's location bar, which is faster than 
looking through ugly html and, in many cases, piecing the url together 
manually.

Handing it a url to the actual video will cause it to parse the file as html, 
which would result in a lot of grinding. :-)

If you already have the video url, wget is the appropriate utility.

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Re: SPAM: Re: Re: [opensuse] Howto save flash files from web with SuSE 10.1

2006-11-03 Thread steve reilly
On Friday 03 November 2006 21:38, James Oakley wrote:

I got the video by wget, but i think im having the same problem as someone 
else no sound.

plays fine when streaming though... streams from some omedia. something.




 On Friday 03 November 2006 7:22 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
  The Friday 2006-11-03 at 18:38 -0400, James Oakley wrote:
Then your network is better or nearer the source. Here I can't fill
the buffer more that 40%, so it doesn't even start. Ah, the getvideo
download saved nothing in two hours and a half, I just stopped it.
  
   The file is at
   http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv
  
   The reason getvideo didn't save it is because it's loaded by
   javascript.
 
  I had the following command running during two and a half hours, till I
  interrupted it:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/getvideo getvideo
  http://files1.novell.com/cached/video/microsoft/mswebcast.flv Traceback
  (most recent call last):
  File /home/cer/bin/getvideo, line 34, in ?
page = urllib.urlopen(url).read()
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/socket.py, line 285, in read
data = self._sock.recv(recv_size)
KeyboardInterrupt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/getvideo

 Ah. getvideo downloads objects parsed from html. I used it to save videos
 by handing it the url from my browser's location bar, which is faster than
 looking through ugly html and, in many cases, piecing the url together
 manually.

 Handing it a url to the actual video will cause it to parse the file as
 html, which would result in a lot of grinding. :-)

 If you already have the video url, wget is the appropriate utility.

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