Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 46
On Nov 14, 2007 6:16 PM, M9. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This version has some live cd specific fixes and is done with latest updates (including kernel). Greetings, Stephan These are i686 versions.. do they work on X86_64 also? Yes, x86_64 is backward-compatible. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] AIGLX
Users tend to ask about AIGLX quite a bit. Why do we not have this enabled by default, where possible? Xgl is nice and a lot of people prefer it (including myself), but a lot of people prefer using AIGLX too. Having it enabled by default where possible of course also provides the possibility of switching between compiz/kwin/metacity easier too. If not setting it up by default, perhaps we could consider having a script similar to gnome-xgl-switch for setting it up a little more easily for users. Any thoughts? Regards, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Some 10.3 Bug Statistics
On 9/28/07, Michael Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francis, On Thursday 27 September 2007 23:36, Francis Giannaros wrote: Since the DVD9s are being sent off for shipping, I thought I'd interest myself again by taking a look at some Bugzilla statistics again. So why not share? :-) isn't that worth an article on news.opensuse.org? I think it will be mention in the next quickies article, yeah :-) Kind thoughts, --- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] VirtualBox on 64bit
Can anyone verify that VirtualBox works and runs on 64bit? I spent a large amount of time trying to get it working for a user, and they seemed to be doing everything right: * kernel module was loaded * user was in the vboxusers group ...but it still produced the not in vboxusers group or module not loaded. They tried the .run on virtualbox.org and it worked fine there. I tried to pressure him into a bug report but I don't think he'll file one (that was yesterday), so I'll ask here. :-) Similar problem perhaps to bug 309089. Kind thoughts, -- Francis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] VirtualBox on 64bit
On 9/27/07, Sylvester Lykkehus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francis Giannaros wrote: Can anyone verify that VirtualBox works and runs on 64bit? I spent a large amount of time trying to get it working for a user, and they seemed to be doing everything right: * kernel module was loaded * user was in the vboxusers group ...but it still produced the not in vboxusers group or module not loaded. They tried the .run on virtualbox.org and it worked fine there. I tried to pressure him into a bug report but I don't think he'll file one (that was yesterday), so I'll ask here. :-) Similar problem perhaps to bug 309089. Kind thoughts, I know this is trivial, but did they logout the user(s) after adding them to the vboxusers group ? Sorry, I forgot to mention: yes, they did. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] VirtualBox on 64bit
On 9/27/07, Magnus Boman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here. I found that after I installed VirtualBox, /dev/vboxdrv were owned by root:root. So adding the user to vboxusers didn't make a difference. I ended up chown'ing it to root:users, but root:vboxusers is probably what you want to try. On my 32-bit install that's not the case: opensuse:/home/francis # ls -lh /dev/vboxdrv crw-rw 1 root vboxusers 10, 62 2007-09-27 11:58 /dev/vboxdrv ...might be a good idea to file a bug report then? I take it that it worked for you after that? Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Some 10.3 Bug Statistics
Since the DVD9s are being sent off for shipping, I thought I'd interest myself again by taking a look at some Bugzilla statistics again. So why not share? :-) Without further ado (and no double-checking)... There was a total of 6708 bugs reported; a massive 5308 of these were CLOSED/RESOLVED already (~80%). 258 of these were blockers, and 567 of them were critical.[0] 3138 are RESOLVED+FIXED. With 3258 bug reports (and the top three bug reporters), the non-Novell Community makes up 49% of all bug reports in openSUSE 10.3. 918 different people reported those bugs! 423 of them reported 1 bug report; 128 of them reported 2. 773 of them reported 9 or less. The top 10 bug reporters are: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 350 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 180 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 177 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 165 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 149 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 148 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 124 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 116 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 95 Please buy them an extra beer! Or if you really want to thank them, cider ;-). ahanke hasn't reported anything for over 4 months (where are you!). 300 different people or teams had bugs assigned to them. The bug with the most duplicates[1] is Bug 240922[2], with 18. Beta 2 had the most bugs filed against it,[3] taking 873 of the total. 100% of the votes say openSUSE 10.3 is an awesome release 8). That's all for now :-) [0]For a run-down on the severity of others, see: http://tinyurl.com/3dadqw [1] http://tinyurl.com/2wa46b [2] Enable array subscript is above array bounds gcc warnings? [3] http://tinyurl.com/2j3rwe Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Issues with RC1
On 9/21/07, nordi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - What happened to the media check? When I installed from DVD I was not asked if I wanted to check the installation media. Is this a bug or a feature? I know it was there before... Known bug, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=326861 Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Beta3+ KDE Live
On 9/15/07, Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Friday 14 September 2007 schrieb Francis Giannaros: Hi, Just tried out the Live CD. Pretty much everything in the Live CD itself works, the only thing I wonder is if it's worth launching opensuse-updater-kde on the live session; it's really as if a user can update things from in there. There are several reasons why we want to have the live CD as close as possible to a real system even though it doesn't make sense on exactly that medium. - we use the same config also for USB images - you can install the CD - you can try the real system. After all you _can_ update on the CD, it will just eat up all your memory :) Alrighty, it may well be a good idea then. I tried out the live installer, and it has a lot of rough edges; might be a bad idea to have the icon on the desktop (and instead wait for 11.0). Anyway, for the install (let me know if any of these require bug reports): * After you initially press Next, why doesn't it go straight to the Change Installation Settings? The screen it provides gives a very loose summary of what's happening, and _very_ important text like formatting your whole hard drive is written in regular sized black text. This is a serious issue. * It lists Keyboard but there's nothing below it (not even en_US) or whatever. Please file these. Sure; done. Thanks. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] 10.3 Beta3+ KDE Live
Hi, Just tried out the Live CD. Pretty much everything in the Live CD itself works, the only thing I wonder is if it's worth launching opensuse-updater-kde on the live session; it's really as if a user can update things from in there. I tried out the live installer, and it has a lot of rough edges; might be a bad idea to have the icon on the desktop (and instead wait for 11.0). Anyway, for the install (let me know if any of these require bug reports): * After you initially press Next, why doesn't it go straight to the Change Installation Settings? The screen it provides gives a very loose summary of what's happening, and _very_ important text like formatting your whole hard drive is written in regular sized black text. This is a serious issue. * It lists Keyboard but there's nothing below it (not even en_US) or whatever. * Changing the keyboard layout (I tried en_UK) seems to have no effect on the installed system. * I got two big green YaST errors: ** Calling the YaST module 'inst_fam' has failed ** 'inst_live_cleanup' later fails too ** My yast logs: http://francis.giannaros.org/temp/y2logs.tar.bz2 * KInternet tray icon (as well as KNetworkManager) is started up on initial boot for some reason. Issues that would be great to have but are probably impossible for 10.3: * Selection of repositories before install * All the install in one go (so when you reboot, you start the first session straight away) It is super-speedy though; time flies when you can browse the web/irc at the same time. This is definitely the way forward :-) Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME
On 9/2/07, Bernhard Walle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Alberto Passalacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-02 17:52]: during a discussion on IRC it emerged that GNOME still has a very high number of blockers and critical bugs. GNOME will be updated before release. Perhaps you could clarify what this means? Is it hoped that the updates and final release will solve all the 200+ bugs? The only reason I ask about this is because I notice around the place the general sense from some users of neglect for GNOME in openSUSE, which I know is certainly as a statement unfair; but I can see why some of them might question things when you take a look at comparative figures like this (GNOME 200+ with a lot of blockers, KDE just 64, and dealing with a web browser). It would be a real shame to have GNOME slip behind as it did in 10.2 which I think everyone will agree was not ideal. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Combining Add Internet Repos.. and Include Add-on...Media
Today I was thinking about whether it's possible to combine Add Internet Repositories Before Installation and Include Add-On Products from Separate Media options. Reasons: * Include Add-On Products from Separate Media just doesn't imply that you can also add external repositories; Internet Repositories aren't really thought of as Media * In both cases you're adding extra repositories, so it seems pretty sensible to combine them. The Add Internet Repo... screen could just contain an Add button, which brings up the Repo Adding Screen. Then it could just be one tick-box saying Add Internet Repositories or Add-On Products from Separate Media Before Installation Thoughts? Regards, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] State of including new repositories before installation
Hi, I remember that original discussions on the possibility of including a repository before installation was about giving the user a possibility of adding their own repository rather than choosing from a pre-selected list (though that is useful as well). Is there a plan, currently, to implement this (doesn't appear in alpha 7)? It would be pretty nice. Furthermore, most people seem to not notice the location of the new option (or if so, skip over it because of possible ambiguity). Beineri suggested Include Internet repositories during installation and that sounds a little clearer to me. How about it? Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] kde4
On 8/4/07, Donn Washburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently downloaded a bunch of kde4 rpms via yast2. It took awhile and when finished I thought I would try it. Question is how! I have not found anything like startkde4. I already was aware of the new kde4 location other than /opt. What is the trick? Take a look at http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 If you have 'kdebase4-session' installed then it should appear as one of the sessions in KDM/GDM as Mike has said. For 10.3 it looks like 3.5 is going to be the default, but it will ship with some KDE4 apps which are sufficiently stable (i.e. kdegames). The KDE4 session will be available, however. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] fingerprint reader support
On 7/15/07, Carlos F Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a plan to include fingerprint reader support in 10.3? According to Thinkwiki there is a thinkfinger driver and Fedora has a libbiometrics RPM implementing it. You can also specifically get more information on what Timo and Pavel (the openSUSE guys) are doing/working on from checking out the talk that they did at FOSDEM. See http://en.opensuse.org/FOSDEM2007 for the slides and videos. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Webcam Drivers
The Drivers Wishlist[1] seems to have had quite a few requests for webcam drivers over time; would it be possible to get some of these in for 10.3? spca5xx for example is very popular, supports a plethora of webcams[2], is GPL'd, and is already built very well in the build service[3]. I've played with 5 different webcams over the days, and all of them worked perfectly with kopete and that driver. Any thoughts? [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist_Drivers [2]http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html [3] http://software.opensuse.org/download/drivers:/webcam Regards, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug Day/s Lets Get it going.
To the right list this time; this reply-to business will really be the death of me ;) On 6/4/07, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, what needs to be done to get this going (besides announcing a day)? I'm in favor of doing it soon - and repeat if needed ;-) Andreas After speaking quickly to a few people on IRC we're thinking of the weekend on the 16-17 of June. This is only one day after alpha5, but I'm not sure we should wait a whole week later for the next weekend. So, to sum up, the plan would be: * Have one bug day for clearing out old bugs (say, from 10.1) which would be just after alpha5 time. Also encourage users to file enhancement requests for 10.3 at this time, otherwise they may not be implementable later. * Have another bug day after beta1 time (we don't have to think about the date yet) for trying to really concentrate on all 10.3 bugs. * Can take place in #opensuse-bugs. bugbot currently reports all openSUSE bug changes in there, but we'll change it at the time to only report _new_ bugs to get the traffic down. I'm thinking we should only announce a day or two before the bug day, so it's fresh in people's minds :). Thoughts? Regards, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug Day/s Lets Get it going.
On Saturday 10 March 2007 03:57:29 Rajko M. wrote: BTW, is there any other activity, except this here. I haven't really announced it anywhere yet, but I've got a bugbot (information at http://francis.giannaros.org/bugbot) in #openSUSE-bugs (on Freenode of course) where it reports all new bugs/changes. I was thinking also that the channel will eventually (whenever we have a bug day) become the place for the bug triaging efforts. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros Website: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos on irc.freenode.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug Day/s Lets Get it going.
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 20:50:52 you wrote: Alberto Passalacqua wrote: Il giorno dom, 04/03/2007 alle 13.18 +, Francis Giannaros ha scritto: Just a note that I don't necessarily think that the Bug triage day(s) should happen just yet -- I think the ideal time is just a couple or so months before release, where changes can still be made, but there's feature freeze etc. That would be the most productive time for it, I believe. Yes! I agree on this. Doing them now is premature in my opinion because too many changes and features still have to be introduced. Regards, Alberto I disagree with this, I think that a bug review should be scheduled as soon as reasonable. While your statements about it being too early are true for the bugs listed against the 10.3 release, the bugs listed against the older releases should really be addressed as quickly as possible so that they stand a chance of making it into the 10.3 at all. If you wait too long on this, they will skip yet another release cycle. I think that the early alpha time frame is ideal to review bugs against the older releases otherwise fixing them might introduce too much churn to be included after a feature freeze. Thoughts? The point of course is to not way *too* long, so that changes can still be put into effect, but not too early, before the features and new packages are in. If that happens, then we'll start fixing/cleaning up places of bugs, but then a whole horde of other ones might be created before release. A couple of months before release time sounds good to me. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros Website: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos on irc.freenode.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] y2pmsh, why is not integrated?
On Thursday 08 March 2007 19:51:56 Vincenzo Barranco wrote: Hi, So, why the y2pmsh is not integrated on the factory development tree? openSUSE has zypper now, which can even also give you a jailed session just like y2pmsh, so there's no need for it anymore. Unfortunately libzypp's broken in factory at the moment (so currently zypper/yast won't work), but hopefully that will be up-and-running again soon. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros Website: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos on irc.freenode.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug Day/s Lets Get it going.
On Saturday 03 March 2007 19:07:19 Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote: Hello, With all the great discussion on the topic, We need to get it going. I like the IRC, but really think a summeray is needed on the email list to keep consistency across time zone. I don't see any problem with adding a summary sometime to the list as well, though if people temporarily subscribe to the bug list too they'll get a rundown. Just a note that I don't necessarily think that the Bug triage day(s) should happen just yet -- I think the ideal time is just a couple or so months before release, where changes can still be made, but there's feature freeze etc. That would be the most productive time for it, I believe. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros Website: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos on irc.freenode.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations
On Friday 02 March 2007 22:15:26 Marcus Meissner wrote: The problem in general is that our GNOME developers work more on the enterprise desktop , while the KDE guys work more on the openSUSE snapshots, for above reasons. Perhaps this is a complaint, then (like a few others we get around), that not enough time is left for openSUSE GNOME? Perhaps the balance could be revisited, since quite a few people have issues with this, it seems to me. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros Website: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos on irc.freenode.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations
On Saturday 03 March 2007 09:17:46 jdd wrote: Francis Giannaros wrote: On Saturday 03 March 2007 00:12:15 Ted Bullock wrote: For instance I currently see the following: 251 Open bugs for 10.0 683 Open bugs for 10.1 1224 Open bugs for 10.2 Wow, that is quite a few more than I thought. don't forget many bugs are duplicates, many others are moved from an earlier distro to the next one, so this don't mean the 10.0 have less bugs, but that they will never be fixed :-) Even in that scenario, they shouldn't be left open; they should be marked as WONTFIX. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros Website: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos on irc.freenode.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations
On Saturday 03 March 2007 15:22:21 Rajko M. wrote: On Saturday 03 March 2007 09:02, Alberto Passalacqua wrote: I'm a bit critical about the _one_day_ bug testing because I think it's too short to examine the bugs of something complex like a distribution. ... I personally prefer shorter meetings in multiple days than 24 hours meeting where everyone has to wait for the moment which interests him. But of course this is an opinion. While IRC meetings are cooncentrated they exclude all people that are not in right time zone. With present number of active users that is not good. I would prefer one thread on this list that will announce start of triage and than separate threads for each bug. That's an argument against a meeting _time_, but not really against a meeting day. If it's a bug triage weekend (or any given couple of days), then different people can be on at different times. And particularly on a weekend, people's sleeping patterns vary quite a bit, so I don't think it's a problem. Like I said though anyway, this is a tried, tested and proven method: many other projects have these, and they work tremendously well. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros Website: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos on irc.freenode.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] meeting minutes of last dist meeting
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 10:00:29 Andreas Jaeger wrote: Francis Giannaros [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 19 February 2007 18:35:32 Andreas Jaeger wrote: Our last meeting was moved by a week and I forgot to inform you. Sorry about that. Here're the minutes, I understand the issue/status of GNOME packages (and of the several apparently ignored critical bugs) was going to be addressed. Any update on this? Those are not on-topic for the dist meeting. I see, apologies about that. Henne mentioned to us that he'd raise it. I got a list of 4 bugs and I though we see progress there. Don't we? There's some activity now in the last week, but why's that? Some of those bug reports have had replies from a lot of people, and even raised before release (so months ago), and people in many cases were pleading for a response and there was nothing? I don't use GNOME myself at all, but there's a very small majority of GNOME users we see around who persistently complain about these. Some of them seem really critical too; do you know if there will be updates for these? I understand that some of them tried to contact the GNOME developers about it and just didn't have any luck. Sorry to bother you, but thanks again. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros Web: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos (irc.freenode.net) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] meeting minutes of last dist meeting
On Monday 19 February 2007 18:35:32 Andreas Jaeger wrote: Our last meeting was moved by a week and I forgot to inform you. Sorry about that. Here're the minutes, I understand the issue/status of GNOME packages (and of the several apparently ignored critical bugs) was going to be addressed. Any update on this? Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros Web: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos (irc.freenode.net) pgpBVvRwWQkbx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Banshee and iPod in 10.2
On Saturday 27 January 2007 21:37:46 Alberto Passalacqua wrote: Banshee and Helix-banshee in opensuse 10.2 are affected by a bug which doesn't allow them to recognize iPod's. The bug is quite serious and was reported on bugzilla some time ago: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215301 The problem is solved in the version of banshee on BS, but no helix-banshee is available, which is necessary to properly manage the iPod. Will a patch be provided for 10.2? Alberto I really think this deserves to be added to updates, since it's such a prized feature of Banshee's, and so many people have iPods these days and it really doesn't work at all. There have been *many* comments from different people experiencing the problem (even from one guy who is a Novell engineer/employee), and yet no comments at all from the package maintainers. What's up? Regards, -- Francis Giannaros Web: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos (irc.freenode.net) pgpVeIDlKc8eU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] perfect 10.2 GM download
On Friday 08 December 2006 11:07, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2006-12-07 at 21:28 -0700, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote: ares2c destroyed my download. It finished with a checksum error, then it destroyed the downloaded file. I'm not using it again :-/ Did you use the guru rpm's? I did not have any problems with them. Yes, I did. It is a problem with the client itself (aria2c) or the protocol, not of the package preparer. That client is not reliable. I'm certainly not trying again and wasting my time. :-/ Interesting. As one person thinks it was a waste, a whole horde (I'd say 40+) of people (i.e. yesterday in #suse) wouldn't stop praising it. Probably most patently myself 8). Anyhow, there was a lot of reported success with metalinks (and no such problems as you mention). Metalinks are excellent and I hope that (i) they take as prominent a role in the future with ISO downloads, and (ii) that we can get the aria2 client in by default for 10.3. Nevertheless, as was mentioned support is being added for metalinks to kget (though not until kde4), curl and wget, so that's a step in the right direction. Regards, Francis. pgpFFCfYAPhz2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] perfect 10.2 GM download
On Friday 08 December 2006 15:38, Carlos E. R. wrote: I have seen no such praise here. I will actively dis-recomend it to anybody thinking of using it, at least till I'm convinced problems have been solved. Enjoy. The fact is, my download did not checksum, and instead of repairing it, aria2c destroyed it and started afresh. That is an undeniable fact: it is a broken client. For you, yes, perhaps. For me the only fact is that something went wrong, not that there's anything wrong with the client. In fact, all the prior evidence I've had implies the direct opposite. Regards, Francis. pgpQuEShpgJAI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] perfect 10.2 GM download
On Friday 08 December 2006 17:38, Carlos E. R. wrote: You call that reliable? It is no more reliable than a single http/ftp download. That is annoying, but again, I'm not particularly worried about http/ftp unreliability. i.e. the danger is there, but if aria2 is going to ensure that I get a *very* fast download and still have that risk (which I consider very small) then that's perfect. And in fact, it *will* be the case like that for most people. Should we really remove http/ftp as a download option? This is getting ridiculous. A single failure proves unreliability. A hundred sucesses do not prove otherwise. A hundred successes proves that it's a decent method, but not that it's a perfect one; I wish you'd see that. Your inference from it didn't work for me, others: DON'T USE IT!!! is curious to say the least. The only thing I'd conclude is dang, it didn't work for me, maybe try to find out the reasons why, I'd hardly go on a righteous crusade to wipe out anyone using aria2 (which is what you're doing). A wget download failed once for me because of ftp/http problems; idea! Let's tell everyone to never use wget, at all, ever. Regards, Francis. pgpz9dzGjNgBB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] perfect 10.2 GM download
On Friday 08 December 2006 22:54, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote: Could you update the page at http://en.opensuse.org/Metalinks with an exact command. My friends are out for a few days and there computer is not online for me to quickly gramd the command I used. I do not have the time right now to look it up again and sort things out. Ok, edited the wiki now with a direct example case. Tested it with an aria2 download that I stopped at 90%, and it fixed it up just fine. md5sum matched. Regards, Francis. pgp0BGMhjZC97.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] perfect 10.2 GM download
On Saturday 09 December 2006 00:23, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: I would recommend simply rsync -avv ... because most servers have a setting of dont compress = *. I see. Edited the page now, thanks. Regards, Francis. pgpo1cykdr1ud.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] perfect 10.2 GM download
On Saturday 09 December 2006 01:08, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: And you can shorten the destination parameter to . if the filename is the same as at the source. Hey! It's a wiki, anyone can edit :P Regards, Francis. pgpD8fH8hjq3s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] perfect 10.2 GM download
On Thursday 07 December 2006 16:18, Carlos E. R. wrote: I plugged in the metalink link, obviously; and it is not seeding. It is pulling from ftp servers only, AFAIK. Yes, like I said, it won't seed unless you use the torrent file (obviously). The links that metalink files provide are just mirrors. If you want to see, grab the .torrent file and seed the already-downloaded ISO that you have. Regards, Francis. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
On Saturday 18 November 2006 14:58, Steve Barnhart wrote: The Iguana was hard to read and really looked unprofessional. I believe thats what they use for beta/alpha builds cuz its kind of fun, but not suitable for a professional release imo. I agree; my girlfriend was genuinely scared by it :). pgpQRfqoRgXJT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
On Saturday 18 November 2006 15:30, Robby (M9.) wrote: Why is that changed to a black grubmenu, in the following beta's? That was a bug, as noted in the beta2 Release notes. Kind thoughts, Francis. pgpu0gvGGjkcO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] tiny-nvidia-installer removed from factory
On Sunday 05 November 2006 16:06, you wrote: On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 10:12:31PM +, Francis Giannaros wrote: On Friday 03 November 2006 16:29, Greg KH wrote: That's not the kernel driver, only the Xorg drivers, as per the list of the files contained in this package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filel ist word=nvidia-glxversion=edgyarch=i386 so I don't have a problem with them being distributed. I see. What of http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/misc/nvidia-kernel-source ? That's just the source code for the module, you have to install it and build it yourself. It is the end result of that action that is not able to be distributed under the GPL. This is how Ubuntu handles the issue with this driver, a legal solution, but not the nicest :) Just for the record this isn't the only, nor the widest used method. As I didn't notice before, the linux-restricted-modules is used. All a user has to do, from their point of view, is install that package and then install nvidia-glx (and alter xorg.conf) and they're good to go. Seems the tidiest way I've seen to do it. Regards, Francis. pgpL0G3Xr3suV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] tiny-nvidia-installer removed from factory
On Friday 03 November 2006 16:29, Greg KH wrote: That's not the kernel driver, only the Xorg drivers, as per the list of the files contained in this package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist; word=nvidia-glxversion=edgyarch=i386 so I don't have a problem with them being distributed. I see. What of http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/misc/nvidia-kernel-source ? From what I remember, Ubuntu gets around this whole issue by downloading the files from somewhere and then having the user (through an automatic script) build the kernel driver and do the linking on their own. That way they don't violate the GPL, and push the violation onto the user (if the user happens to redistribute the binary). Perhaps I should speak to people since it seems my memory is playing up on me, but I can't remember doing anything but running sed on xorg.conf s/nv/nvidia/. Looking at the guide now I see it tells you to run nvidia-glx-config enable -- would it really be contained in there? If so, that's a remarkably tidy way of getting around such a thing, and I can't imagine why other distributions wouldn't adopt it too (like SUSE). So again, Ubuntu is moving toward the same situation that Novell currently has. And that's fine with me. I see; will be interesting to see how this turns out. Regards, Francis. pgp5o8Zn4e6N0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] tiny-nvidia-installer removed from factory
To address a point made earlier: Greg KH wrote: Both of these are third party packages, Ubuntu was forced to stop shipping their pre-built packages a while ago for the obvious legal reasons. That's not true at all (see http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/x11/nvidia-glx ). That is the package for the Edgy release, which was released just over a week ago. It's in the Restricted repository, officially supported and released by Ubuntu. These packs have never been stopped; always been there. In fact, their future intentionson getting these included by default are even stronger. See a spec for Feisty (the next version of Ubuntu) drafted by the Shuttleworth himself: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/accelerated-x All to fit into the plan of getting Beryl installed by default on feisty. Regards, Francis Giannaros (apokryphos) pgpbSWD62Zqnx.pgp Description: PGP signature
