[opensuse-factory] bug 304318 - user option not working with nfs in fstab
Hi, has somebody found a way around bug 304318? I really need the option to mount nfs shares as an ordinary user. Thanks! FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 305195
Bernhard Walle wrote: * Frank-Michael Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-30 12:44]: Is there someone who does not experience this bug with Beta2? If not, I should raise it to Blocker. Please don't. As Christoph pointed out in the last status mail, GNOME will be updated anyway before openSUSE 10.3 gets released. So, maybe Could, please, someone help me understand, what this comment is supposed to mean: --- /Comment #7 From Mark Gordon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-09-04 15:42:16 MST / [reply https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=305195#add_comment] --- There are many ways to create files in Gnome. This one method is currently broken. Yes, there are many applications by which one is able to create files despite this bug. But isn't Nautilus supposed to server as THE file manager in Gnome. Or are there other file managers in Gnome I could use for creating files? Or is touch a Gnome application since one may use it in the Gnome terminal? FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
Cristian Rodriguez wrote: Alexey Eremenko escribió: Hi Susers ! Ubuntu team have just developed an excellent technology, that existed in Windows for many years before. and that exists in SUSE since many many years. type sax.sh -a in the command line and get your messed up configuration fixed. no critical feature request . doh ! sax.sh -a? What kind of a joke is this supposed to be? Either we are interested in broadening the market or in pushing THE platform for developers. Developers, however, do not need any sax.sh they just need lspci, vi and some xorg.conf to start from. Somebody deserving the description user versus administrator or programmer should not even be allowed to know, that sax exists. Let's get serious about openSUSE, please. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Bug 305195
Is there someone who does not experience this bug with Beta2? If not, I should raise it to Blocker. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 305195
Bernhard Walle wrote: * Frank-Michael Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-30 12:44]: Is there someone who does not experience this bug with Beta2? If not, I should raise it to Blocker. Please don't. As Christoph pointed out in the last status mail, GNOME will be updated anyway before openSUSE 10.3 gets released. So, maybe that update also fixes this bug ... The question is not whether Gnome gets updated before release. The question is: will the to be released Gnome be beta tested before the release? And if yes, why not bugzilla bugs the proper way? FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
Christian Morales Vega wrote: On Thursday 30 August 2007 10:09:44 Alexey Eremenko wrote: Hi Susers ! Ubuntu team have just developed an excellent technology, that existed in Windows for many years before. More specifically, the ability to recover from Graphics Adapter misconfigurations. It is called: BulletProofX ! I would like to see this included into openSUSE (11.0 ?), and available as an addon for openSUSE 10.3. Home Page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX Ubuntu wiki talks about Xorg7.3Integration... will X.org 7.3 help with this? I understand that it will provide input and ouput hotplug, but can this help? What are the normal problems that make X unable to start, are just misconfigured Device Section or there are other things that can make it unable to start (even if we have EDID...)? And what is going Ubuntu to make exactly? They talk about a GDM Failsafe Server that isn't supported by KDM??? Have a look e.g. at Bug 304142. Such or similar may come up with new monitor device name strings and/or graphics chipsets anytime. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Grub Problem
Sid Boyce wrote: Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/08/29 04:25 (GMT+0100) Sid Boyce apparently typed: I had a failing IDE HD as /dev/sda, so I installed 10.3 on a new SATA drive /dev/sdb and was booting from it until I removed /dev/sda. The SATA drive is now /dev/sda, but it won't boot, just the cursor on the top of the screen. Booted from DVD to rescue, altered fstab and menu.lst was changed from (hd1,0) to (hd0,0), still won't boot and grub commands give unrecognised device string errors. menu.lst now says gfxmenu (hd0,0)/boot/message No luck. Rescue isn't as easy as it used to be. The solution in http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-04/msg00048.html might be your solution. Did all that, /dev/disk/by-* tree is sound, looked up info grub and info grub-install, nothing makes any sense. # grub-install /dev/sda1 # grub-install /dev/sda # grub-install (hd0) # grub-install (hd0,0) grub setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) grub setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0,0) and other combinations using /dev/sda and /de/sda1 all give Error 12: Invalid device requested. The odd thing is that when I had the IDE drive installed (/dev/sda) with the SATA (/dev/sdb), it booted off /dev/sdb, after removing the IDE drive, it refused to boot. fdisk -l /dev/sda shows the bootable flag on /dev/sda1. I have / and a swap partition on the drive. I can't think of any incantation that will make grub do anything. /dev/disk/by-id: total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 240 Aug 29 11:13 ./ drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Aug 29 11:14 ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963 - ../../sda lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Aug 29 11:14 ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part1 - ../../sda1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Aug 29 11:14 ata-WDC_WD3200AAKS-22SBA0_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part2 - ../../sda2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80 - ../../sda lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80-part1 - ../../sda1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Aug 29 11:14 edd-int13_dev80-part2 - ../../sda2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Aug 29 11:14 scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963 - ../../sda lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Aug 29 11:14 scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part1 - ../../sda1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Aug 29 11:14 scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200AAKS-_WD-WCAPZ1455963-part2 - ../../sda2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Aug 29 11:14 usb-HP_Photosmart_C4180_MY6CMH72JX04J7-0:0 - ../../sdb /dev/disk/by-path: total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 140 Aug 29 11:13 ./ drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:2.3:1.3-scsi-0:0:0:0 - ../../sdb lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:04.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 - ../../sr0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 - ../../sda lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 - ../../sda1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Aug 29 11:14 pci-:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part2 - ../../sda2 /dev/disk/by-uuid: total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 Aug 29 11:13 ./ drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 120 Aug 29 12:02 ../ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Aug 29 11:14 85d24d84-6169-4acd-8b05-0d4283199835 - ../../sda1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Aug 29 11:14 e99d0381-afb9-4678-93bb-14f9afd27247 - ../../sda2 Regards Sid. The only way I could recover successfully in a similar situation is described here. Seems grub as a program itself gets its device info directly from the partition table only: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=showredirect=RecoverGrub Regards, FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] md5sums for beta?
Jim Pye wrote: http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version#Downloads There is a line hidden in the table called Checksums :) Even trying to refind them I had abot 4 clicks :( J I am sorry, but I am still not able to find the md5sum for e.g.: openSUSE-10.3-Beta2-DVD-i386-iso Any idea where to look? Thanks FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] bow out of this beta test?
Seems it will be the first time, I won't be able to participate in an (open)SUSE beta test. My test computer has the ASUS M2N-MX motherboard. The noapic boot parameter needed for 32bit kernels isn't the biggest problem, the nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2) interface (perfectly supported under 32bit openSUSE 10.2) is neither recognized nor functions with manually loaded forcedeth driver. Meaning the test box has no network available, making testing basically impossible. Until my motherboard gets supported then, FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] bow out of this beta test?
Greg KH wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 08:49:15AM +0200, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: Greg KH wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 08:30:48AM +0200, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: Seems it will be the first time, I won't be able to participate in an (open)SUSE beta test. My test computer has the ASUS M2N-MX motherboard. The noapic boot parameter needed for 32bit kernels isn't the biggest problem, the nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2) interface (perfectly supported under 32bit openSUSE 10.2) is neither recognized nor functions with manually loaded forcedeth driver. Meaning the test box has no network available, making testing basically impossible. Until my motherboard gets supported then, Is there a bug number for this? thanks, greg k-h Nope, since there is too much trouble to supply all the information to Bugzilla from a box that is not connected to the internet. That is exactly why my internal beta test rules tell me: bow out. Plus: either only my MCP61 ethernet chip is not supported then Bugzilla is of no help to, or openSUSE 10.3 does not support the chip in general, then my Bugzilla entry is not needed. Well, that sounds like a pretty serious kernel regression. And, if you can't report it, well, we can't help fix it. So the odds that it will be fixed for the final 10.3 release is pretty slim. Can you just try booting with the 10.3 kernels on your 10.2 release? That will let you help test and provide us with hopefully enough information to fix this. Bug 299141 Submitted - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] bow out of this beta test?
Klaus Kaempf wrote: * Frank-Michael Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Aug 10. 2007 08:49]: Nope, since there is too much trouble to supply all the information to Bugzilla from a box that is not connected to the internet. But you do have a machine with internet connection since you were able to send this mail ;-) Please boot 10.3 beta1 on the problematic system, switch to a bash-prompt by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F2, plug in a usb-stick and run - mount /dev/sda /mnt # resp. sdb, sdc or whereever the usb stick appears - hwinfo /mnt/hwinfo - dmesg /mnt/dmesg# (see below) - umount /mnt done, by double reboot, without USB stick ;-); Bug 299141 FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] bow out of this beta test?
Greg KH wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 08:30:48AM +0200, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: Seems it will be the first time, I won't be able to participate in an (open)SUSE beta test. My test computer has the ASUS M2N-MX motherboard. The noapic boot parameter needed for 32bit kernels isn't the biggest problem, the nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2) interface (perfectly supported under 32bit openSUSE 10.2) is neither recognized nor functions with manually loaded forcedeth driver. Meaning the test box has no network available, making testing basically impossible. Until my motherboard gets supported then, Is there a bug number for this? thanks, greg k-h Nope, since there is too much trouble to supply all the information to Bugzilla from a box that is not connected to the internet. That is exactly why my internal beta test rules tell me: bow out. Plus: either only my MCP61 ethernet chip is not supported then Bugzilla is of no help to, or openSUSE 10.3 does not support the chip in general, then my Bugzilla entry is not needed. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] perfect 10.2 GM download
I'd just like to share my excitement how fast the openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-i386.iso download went this morning. The corresponding x86_64 torrent is pretty fast, too, quite an improvement from last release. Congratulations! FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2RC1 and CrossoverOffice
Kenneth Schneider schrieb: On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 20:32 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote: On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 01:38:55PM -0500, Kenneth Schneider wrote: Since upgrading to the latest kernel, 2.6.18.2-33 I can no longer run my CXO programs I.E. Quicken. I get the following error when launching the program: What distro? In the subject line. wine: failed to initialize: /opt/cxoffice/lib/wine/ntdll.dll.so: failed to map segment from shared object: Cannot allocate memory Is this something being caused by the latest kernel update? It might be because of default ulimits we have. And I can change these where? I reloaded the install kernel with the same results. I don't know about others but this is a show stopper for me. I still need to run a couple of MS apts and do not have the option of dual boot or VMware available. So much for upgrading my desktop. I will still experiment with the laptop for now ( this is how I found the problem ). Ken What do you mean by have not VMware available: http://www.vmware.com/products/server ? FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] the MS truetype fonts script has got problems
Retrieving kernel-default... Delta-RPM ./rpm/i586/kernel-default-2.6.18.2-23_31.i586.delta.rpm wird heruntergeladen OK Delta-RPM wird angewendet: /var/adm/mount/AP_0x000d/rpm/i586/kernel-default-2.6.18.2-23_31.i586.delta.rpm OK Installation von ./rpm/i586/kernel-default-2.6.18.2-31.i586.rpm: The Standard Kernel for both Uniprocessor and Multiprocessor Systems OK Retrieving kernel-source... Delta-RPM ./rpm/i586/kernel-source-2.6.18.2-23_31.i586.delta.rpm wird heruntergeladen OK Delta-RPM wird angewendet: /var/adm/mount/AP_0x000d/rpm/i586/kernel-source-2.6.18.2-23_31.i586.delta.rpm OK Installation von ./rpm/i586/kernel-source-2.6.18.2-31.i586.rpm: The Linux Kernel Sources OK Skript fetchmsttfonts.sh-2302-patch-fetchmsttfonts.sh-2-2302-1.noarch wird gestartet note: No proxy is used. Please set the environment variable http_proxy note: to your favorite proxy, if you want to use a proxy for the download. note: note: bash: export http_proxy=http://proxy.provider.de:3128/; note: tcsh: setenv http_proxy http://proxy.provider.de:3128/; EULA: Fetching ... done Trying to find the fastest server: puzzle ... 9 sec ovh ... 1 sec switch ... 1 sec citkit ... to slow (aborted) mesh ... 1 sec jaist ... 2 sec cogent ... to slow (aborted) kent ... 1 sec nchc ... 5 sec heanet ... 2 sec easynews ... 2 sec optusnet ... 1 sec voxel ... to slow (aborted) The winner is: ovh andale32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! andale32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe): Fetching ... failed ... deleted! andale32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! andale32.exe (http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... done arial32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! arial32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe): Fetching ... failed ... deleted! arial32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! arial32.exe (http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... done arialb32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! arialb32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe): Fetching ... failed ... deleted! arialb32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! arialb32.exe (http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... done comic32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/comic32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! comic32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/comic32.exe): Fetching ... failed ... deleted! comic32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/comic32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! comic32.exe (http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/comic32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... done courie32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/courie32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! courie32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/courie32.exe): Fetching ... failed ... deleted! courie32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/courie32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! courie32.exe (http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/courie32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... done georgi32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/georgi32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! georgi32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/georgi32.exe): Fetching ... failed ... deleted! georgi32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/georgi32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! georgi32.exe
Re: [opensuse-factory] the MS truetype fonts script has got problems
Andreas Hanke schrieb: Frank-Michael Fischer schrieb: Extracting ... failed ... deleted! impact32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/impact32.exe): Anybody any idea why this happens? Yes, it happens because this code failed: cabextract -l $file /dev/null if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then rm -f $file echo failed ... deleted! This can fail for different reasons, one of them could be that cabextract is not installed. Do you have cabextract installed? Try to do the cabextract manually, what does it print? Btw.: The script installs the fonts into /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype. This should better be /usr/share/fonts/truetype. It's installed and functions. At the end all the fonts got downloaded and installed after many, many retries. And it's unlikely that cabextract stops working for a while and comes back again etc. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2
Andreas Jaeger schrieb: We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes via online update for 10.2. Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new problems. The major changes since the RC1 kernel are: * a couple of fixes in the SATA area * Disabling of the This module is unsupported by Novell warnings * Support for Intel 965 DRM * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards * Fixes for Xen Andreas Installation went smoothly, even the sources. Only side problem: zen-updater neither showed nor did some component from zmd find the update. YaST2 online_update did it. After almost a year of testing, using and switching to other linuxes I am really beginning to wonder, which client company will make more profit through this zmd stuff or which private openSUSE user will have a happier life and family through this monster. Amongst my global company customers I did not find a single one who would decide in favour of Linux (not even talking of Novell Linux) because zmd is there. This stuff is not just imposed onto the community, it's imposed onto companies as well. It has created the hugest bloat of an operation system since MVS/VM times. It's by far the least stable component of openSUSE and guzzles CPU cycles and time off the users and the companies. Might sound far fetched, but the zmd adventure - being clearly of much less tragic nature than some civilization exercises in the Middle East - would also benefit from rethink what we are all doing when wasting time and resources dealing with one of the most bitter jokes in software architecture. Get rid of it and stop throwing good money after bad money. The world will NOT be a better place thanks to zenworks Co. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] the MS truetype fonts script has got problems
Andreas Hanke schrieb: Frank-Michael Fischer schrieb: And it's unlikely that cabextract stops working for a while and comes back again etc. Hm, with the information that is currently available it almost looks like exactly that. This is the script: http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2/scripts/fetchmsttfonts.sh Download it, run it on its own (without YaST around it) and try to find out why it fails. I tend to blame the sourceforge servers. Right, seems ovh.dl.sourceforge.net cab files are just plain rotten and puzzle is not in this font business at all. FMF EULA: Fetching ... done Trying to find the fastest server: puzzle ... to slow (aborted) ovh ... 1 sec switch ... 6 sec citkit ... to slow (aborted) mesh ... 1 sec jaist ... 2 sec cogent ... to slow (aborted) kent ... 1 sec nchc ... 3 sec heanet ... 5 sec easynews ... 1 sec optusnet ... 1 sec voxel ... to slow (aborted) The winner is: ovh andale32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! andale32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe): Fetching ... failed ... deleted! andale32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! andale32.exe (http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... done arial32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! arial32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe): Fetching ... failed ... deleted! arial32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! arial32.exe (http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... done arialb32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! arialb32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe): Fetching ... failed ... deleted! arialb32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! arialb32.exe (http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... done comic32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/comic32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! comic32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/comic32.exe): Fetching ... failed ... deleted! comic32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/comic32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! comic32.exe (http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/comic32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... done courie32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/courie32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! courie32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/courie32.exe): Fetching ... failed ... deleted! courie32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/courie32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! courie32.exe (http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/courie32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... done georgi32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/georgi32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! georgi32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/georgi32.exe): Fetching ... failed ... deleted! georgi32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/georgi32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! georgi32.exe (http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/georgi32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... done impact32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/impact32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! impact32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/impact32.exe): Fetching ... failed ... deleted! impact32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/impact32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! impact32.exe (http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/impact32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... done times32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/times32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! times32.exe (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/times32.exe): Fetching ... failed ... deleted! times32.exe (http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/times32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... failed ... deleted! times32.exe (http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/times32.exe): Fetching ... done Extracting ... done trebuc32.exe (http
[opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?
Anybody an idea why (unlike with xfs or reiserfs) I could not manage to make an ext3 filesystem with external journal. After mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 -O /dev/sda5 /dev/hda7 I get: Unvollständige Dateisystem-Option gesetzt: /dev/sda5 And after mke2fs -b 4096 -n -j -J device=/dev/hda7 /dev/sda5 I end up with Filesystem has unexpected block size beim Versuch, das Journal-Device /dev/hda7 zu öffnen at the very end of the process. Also using tune2fs to convert: little:/home/fmf # tune2fs -j /dev/sda5 -J device=/dev/hda7 tune2fs 1.39 (29-May-2006) tune2fs: Filesystem has unexpected block size beim Öffnen des Journals auf /dev/hda7 after making an ext2 filesystem fails. What did I overlook here? Appreciating any help FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?
Anders Johansson schrieb: I think you misunderstand the manpage. It should literally be journal_dev, that shouldn't be replaced with a device name. If you want to have the journal on hda7, the command should be mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 -O journal_dev /dev/hda7 Right you are, thanks for the help, working now here! FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?
Anders Johansson schrieb: I think you misunderstand the manpage. It should literally be journal_dev, that shouldn't be replaced with a device name. If you want to have the journal on hda7, the command should be mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 -O journal_dev /dev/hda7 Interesting: now after external journalling working I found out that using /dev/ram0 as journal device slows writing down a bit compared to local journal or journal on another disk. Strange. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?
Robert Schiele schrieb: On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 01:13:45PM +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: I can't say why it should be slower, but since it shouldn't be used at all, it doesn't seem to matter much That depends on your point of view. From a user's point of view this is really pointless because it does not make any sense at all to use such a scenario on any productive system. For the developer of the code such observations could be quite valuable because the process of finding an explanation for such strange observations often uncover obscure bugs or design issues. Robert Right, I wanted to find out the impact of journal device speed on overall performance and had to learn: there is no useful correlation.There is not even a reasonable performance difference between internal and external journal on ext3. At least none that bonnie would show. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ext3 external journal impossible?
Anders Johansson schrieb: On Sunday 26 November 2006 14:01, Robert Schiele wrote: On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 01:13:45PM +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: I can't say why it should be slower, but since it shouldn't be used at all, it doesn't seem to matter much That depends on your point of view. From a user's point of view this is really pointless because it does not make any sense at all to use such a scenario on any productive system. For the developer of the code such observations could be quite valuable because the process of finding an explanation for such strange observations often uncover obscure bugs or design issues. It could be as simple as the RAM disk taking up memory that would otherwise be used for buffering. Reducing the size of the buffers can cause substantial performance loss Not really in my case, only about 50% of memory in use including the 32MB ram disk. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Test for Online Update (RC1)
Marcus Meissner schrieb: On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 08:32:51PM +0100, Marcel Hilzinger wrote: opensuseupdater shows me no updates. What am I doing wrong? There are no new updates for RC1 yet. I've just installed another 11 updates, like an hour ago. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Test for Online Update (RC1)
Marcus Meissner schrieb: On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 08:00:49PM +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote: On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 08:32:51PM +0100, Marcel Hilzinger wrote: opensuseupdater shows me no updates. What am I doing wrong? There are no new updates for RC1 yet. 2 now: - fetchmsttfonts script for TrueType fonts. - libzypp 3rd test update kernel will follow when ready. Started libzypp 3rd test update about one hour ago. Now it's hanging for a while at 99% - updating software - finishing... What are we testing here? The bandwidth of the update server? FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Test for Online Update (RC1)
Marcus Meissner schrieb: Started libzypp 3rd test update about one hour ago. Now it's hanging for a while at 99% - updating software - finishing... What are we testing here? The bandwidth of the update server? I used yast online update to test. If you used ZMD/zen-updater and it hangs please open a bugreport. (And it downloaded delta and patch rpms for me, so not much bandwith). Bug 223828 Submitted - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Dummy Updates for Yast YOU
Keith Goggin schrieb: Hi, 1.I've added http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/suse/update/10.2/ to opensuseupdater in both 10.2b2 and 10.2RC1. In 10.2b2 opensuseupdater shows 7 patches available. In 10.2RC1 opensuseupdater shows none? 2.What happened to the dummy update I asked for back in September? 3.So far I've not seen any suggestion of how we might test Yast YOU / opensuseupdater / Zen. Bearing in mind that system updating was the single biggest failure in SUSE10.1, I am more than a little puzzled that nothing seems to have been done. I don't know what happened, but I got dummy update suggestions right after installation. And I've already installed four proposed real updates, three of them from openSUSE, one from madwifi. Works just fine. Still I am running into bug 217326 on my RC1. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 45 minutes for Installation
Marcel Hilzinger schrieb: I just saw, that YaST estimates Installlation time to be 45 minutes. This seems too long (from DVD). Older versions installed within 30 minutes or below. Installation seems faster than 45 min, however. Wrong estimation? Nope, as long as you plan to have the / partition formatted as ext3 (or ext2) during installation you will run into bug 220200 which is fixed for GM only. And this bug could mean doubling or even tripling the installation time. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] ext2
from /var/log/boot.omsg after a 10.2 RC1 boot: 4ext2: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag. 1. Is there a module from Novell handling ext2 file systems at all? If so: is it patented? ;-) 2. If not what is Novell's problem with ext2 file systems? In older machines e.g it can make perfect sense to set up an ext2 /boot partition. It makes also sense for ro partitions. Did I miss something here? I always thought ext2 is supported under GPL. Appreciating any enlightenment on this issue. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: openSUSE 10.2 Beta2 is available
Andreas Jaeger schrieb: Is there any reason this torrent is at a standstill? Literally? I've had it running for 15 minutes and not a byte has arrived yet. What's up? Or down? Too many downloads? No idea - Marcus, can you check? Andreas There are just no seeds up yet. Without them you know FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] regedit for linux?
Maybe someone can help me out of some of my bad feelings I am having around putting config data into XML files. One of the striking advantages (and used in day-to-day work almost daily) of linux versus windows was the use of plain text files for basically anything concerning system or application configuration. Putting more and more config data into XML files makes me worry if we are not going the registry way where reading, interpreting and changing config data becomes more and more a programmers job. Not that I hate the idea to create more and more higher qualified jobs around linux and the creation of the LCE (Linux Certified Engineer) position for simple system administration tasks. It might just raise the hurdle to switch to linux if the thing gets as confusing in administration as windows. Yes, XML is a open standard, compared to Windows registry. But in real life tasks it does not matter. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
Heiko Helmle wrote: Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: Might sound a bit emotional, but the parse-metadata problem turns 10.1 into a virtually unusable desktop for my customers (and me) really. In certain server setups it might be acceptable that the system needs up to 30 minutes after reboot before giving full power to the users. But on a desktop? As a workaround i'd suggest to disable zmd and configure smart. It's quite fast and doesn't take 5 minutes to wake up some background daemon just to search for a package. (Packages smart and smart-gui are on the OpenSUSE CDs). You'll lose that little update icon on your desktop - which means you should do 'smart update' occasionally. Together with a little restriction on beagle (as suggested by others on this list) you should get a pretty speedy SUSE Experience. Regards Heiko Great, thanks. Just one suggestion: I wouldn't call disabling zen a workaround; it's THE solution. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
Peter Czanik wrote: Hello, Marcus Meissner wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 08:08:02AM +0200, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: Might sound a bit emotional, but the parse-metadata problem turns 10.1 into a virtually unusable desktop for my customers (and me) really. In certain server setups it might be acceptable that the system needs up to 30 minutes after reboot before giving full power to the users. But on a desktop? We cannot confirm this behaviour. parse-metadata occassionaly leads to a slow down, but only a minute at most and not on bootup. It's an often reported bug on the Hungarian SUSE mailing list, so I can confirm this behavior. AFAIK it's a problem on slower machines, and comes combined with beagle. But 'parse-metadata' is the most often reported resource hog. You are overblowing the issue. I think, he is right for slower machines, but it's a non issue on recent machines (max 2 years old). /etc/init.d/novell-zmd stop rpm -e zmd rug zen-updater Is there any functionality lost this way? I know, that the update icon from the tray will be gone, which is a positive change for me :-) Anything else? Bye, CzP These are three machines showing this bug: 2GHz/512MB, 2.2GHz/512MB and 2.8GHz/1GB. Older, slow machines? FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
Marcus Meissner wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 08:08:02AM +0200, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: Might sound a bit emotional, but the parse-metadata problem turns 10.1 into a virtually unusable desktop for my customers (and me) really. In certain server setups it might be acceptable that the system needs up to 30 minutes after reboot before giving full power to the users. But on a desktop? We cannot confirm this behaviour. parse-metadata occassionaly leads to a slow down, but only a minute at most and not on bootup. It blocks my three 10.1 systems always at bootup and never for less than 20 minutes. These are all installations from scratch. To me it smells like the end of SUSE on desktops, really. As I am using and testing other linux distros as well I know that the only difference is Zen. My wild guess: Zen architecture prevents it from performing well. Because if it would be the implementation of Zen making its performance so ridiculous, we would find some messages concering fixes and dramatic improvements and timetables. You are overblowing the issue. I really wish you were right. For the time being none of my customers will upgrade to 10.1 or switch to SUSE. You can also do: /etc/init.d/novell-zmd stop rpm -e zmd rug zen-updater Ofcourse, that's what I am doing. But I could also build linux from scratch then. The moment, Novell decides to drop zmd rug zen-updater from the default installation I can recommend this distro again. Why? Because my customers should NOT be dependent on me as person. So someone else with lesser linux know-how should be able to (re-)install SUSE Linux and get a well performing desktop system. Which is not the case with the current 10.1. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
Andreas Jaeger wrote: Frank-Michael, have you done an update from a previous beta/RC on these machines? What's the output of: * rug sl * rug ca Andreas No updates, just installations from scratch. There is no rug anymore on my machines so I couldn't tell you the output of these commands. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
jdd wrote: Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: Might sound a bit emotional, but the parse-metadata problem turns 10.1 into a virtually unusable desktop for my customers (and me) really. In certain server setups it might be acceptable that the system needs up to 30 minutes after reboot before giving full power to the users. But on a desktop? I never had this problem. I even see that the time to refresh when I lauch yast software install is significantly faster on 10.1 than on 10.0 jdd Whenever someone (like me) runs into this bug on three different machines with a 10.1 default installation it does not really help to know whether there are chances no to run into it. ;-) FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
jdd wrote: Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: It blocks my three 10.1 systems always at bootup and never for less than 20 minutes. These are all installations from scratch. note that thousand of SUSE Linux 10.1 users _don't_ have this problem. so may be you could try to understant what goes wrong, as it may be possible than one of your prefered setup may just conflict with the default settings. I think if the problem was as hard as you say for anybody, we should already know. so why flame? please, slowdown and try to find the real problem. jdd With 9.3 I was the first reporting (bug 74585) the problem that ext3 and reiserfs mounted on / showed on all machines a 50-80% disk performance loss, unless mounted with noatime, which is not the default. It took developers and maintainers several weeks, up to two months, to recognize this as a general problem, not a bug specific to my installation. And I got nastier comments than yours about claiming it must be a general problem. Later on a kernel fix came through you and the bug was fixed. So: I am well trained in taking comments like yours. Did you have a look at your systems load for the first 10 to 30 minutes after booting? And this with the default sw setup? It would be more constructive to give us (or bugzilla) some real numbers showing that your default sw installation setup does not have the bug. And I found the real problem: it's the way libzypp is architected and implemented. Now what? FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
Andreas Jaeger wrote: Frank-Michael, have you done an update from a previous beta/RC on these machines? What's the output of: * rug sl * rug ca Andreas linux:~ # rug sl # | Status | Type | Name | URI --++--++ 1 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-EXTRA-10.1-0-20060512-060816 | ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-inst-source?alias=SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-EXTRA-10.1-0-20060512-060816 2 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-10.1-0-20060512-060713 | ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source?alias=SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-10.1-0-20060512-060713 3 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-10.1-Add-on-10.1-0-20060512-071716 | nfs://little.cp//CDNONOSS?alias=SUSE-Linux-10.1-Add-on-10.1-0-20060512-071716 4 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86-10.1-0-20060512-071731 | nfs://little.cp/CD1?alias=SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86-10.1-0-20060512-071731 5 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates | http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/update/10.1/ 6 | Active | ZYPP | 20060512-104623 | http://packman.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/10.1 linux:~ # rug ca Sub'd? | Name | Service ---++--- Yes | SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-10.1-0-20060512-060713 | SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-10.1-0-20060512-060713 Yes | SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-EXTRA-10.1-0-20060512-060816 | SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-EXTRA-10.1-0-20060512-060816 Yes | SUSE-Linux-10.1-Add-on-10.1-0-20060512-071716 | SUSE-Linux-10.1-Add-on-10.1-0-20060512-071716 Yes | SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates | SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates Yes | 20060512-104623 | 20060512-104623 Yes | SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86-10.1-0-20060512-071731 | SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86-10.1-0-20060512-071731 Strange thing: rug says active for some services but yast: Status│Refresh│Name │URL Off │Off │SUSE Linux Add-on 10.1│nfs://little.cp//CDNONOSS Off │Off │SUSE Linux 10.1 │nfs://little.cp/CD1 FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
jdd wrote: this don't mean you do anything wrong, only something that not any people do. identifying this could be of great help like the rug test you where asked to do. and all this helps fixing the bug. done FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
jdd wrote: jdd wrote: I will try the lanch on start and see is this slows the starting) no slowing down at all... almost instant result for: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rug sl # | État | Type | Nom| URI --++--++-- 1 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-i386-10.1-0-20060430-120239 | dir:///media/usb_linux/factory/rc3?alias=SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-i386-10.1-0-20060430-120239 2 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-i386-10.1-0-20060430-164930 | cd:///?alias=SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-i386-10.1-0-20060430-164930 3 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-i386-10.1-0-20060430-185800 | dir:///media/usb_linux/factory/rc3?alias=SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-i386-10.1-0-20060430-185800 4 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86-10.1-0-20060511-135302 | cd:///?devices=/dev/hdcalias=SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86-10.1-0-20060511-135302 5 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-10.1-0-20060515-174254 | http://download.opensuse.org//distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/?alias=SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-10.1-0-20060515-174254 6 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-EXTRA-10.1-0-20060515-174815 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-inst-source/?alias=SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-EXTRA-10.1-0-20060515-174815 7 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86-10.1-0-20060515-181442 | dvd:///?alias=SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86-10.1-0-20060515-181442 8 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates| http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linux/suse.com/suse/update/10.1/ 9 | Active | ZYPP | 20060518-144808| http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/10.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rug ca Abonné ? | Nom | Service -++--- Oui | SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-i386-10.1-0-20060430-164930 | SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-i386-10.1-0-20060430-164930 Oui | SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-i386-10.1-0-20060430-120239 | SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-i386-10.1-0-20060430-120239 Oui | SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-i386-10.1-0-20060430-185800 | SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-i386-10.1-0-20060430-185800 Oui | SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-EXTRA-10.1-0-20060515-174815 | SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-EXTRA-10.1-0-20060515-174815 | SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates| SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates Oui | 20060518-144808 | 20060518-144808 Oui | SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86-10.1-0-20060511-135302 | SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86-10.1-0-20060511-135302 Oui | SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86-10.1-0-20060515-181442 | SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86-10.1-0-20060515-181442 Oui | SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-10.1-0-20060515-174254 | SUSE-Linux-10.1-FTP-10.1-0-20060515-174254 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ My first rug sl command took about 8 mins to complete. The next one was lightening fast. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
Andreas Jaeger wrote: Frank-Michael, have you done an update from a previous beta/RC on these machines? What's the output of: * rug sl * rug ca Andreas Now this is interesting: After reinstalling rug, running rug sl rug ca and rebooting the system, bug 177758 does not show anymore. Could it be that everyone who started rug at least once explicitely or implicitely gets rid of the bug? FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
jdd wrote: Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: My first rug sl command took about 8 mins to complete. The next one was lightening fast. is this true through reboots? that is, is that the first run of the session or the first run at all that is long? in the first case, something goes wrong in the start mechanism, in the second there is a cache somewhere. I experiment mostly slowdown problem with DHCP. It lasts through reboots. So seems only the very first rug in the lifetime of an installation takes that long. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 10:17 +0200, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: Problem is: during beta test I have been busy reporting and detailling other bugs so I did not participate in the zen buddism here. Real problem is that during beta testing there were no [EMAIL PROTECTED] update servers available for testing, just a new beta every week, so none of the Zen stuff (practically the only reason for the 10.1 release) ever got any testing. My guess as to why some people have problems and others don't: Bad connectivity to the update server that got picked for the system. Try poking around on the mirrors list and selecting different ones manually. Hard to believe that bad connectivity could put my system into 96% wait state for 30 minutes. Please, explain. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
Andreas Jaeger wrote: Frank-Michael Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason why I am assuming it's libzypp's fault is: when I filed the bug it was for the Zen component, then Nat Budin changed the component to libzypp and connected this bug with bug 176301. This bug I am not supposed to view. So it's fair to guess there is something rotten in the state of libzypp. And we should not participate, just sit and wait. Why is everybody thinking there's something rotten going on if a bug is closed? Not because it's closed. I could not even know that. It's because I am not supposed to know the bug. This creates the rotten suspicion. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
jdd wrote: Henne Vogelsang wrote: (...) This is bad but not unfixable. I really like this kind of post. thanks jdd Henne was just quoting Sean Connery in Entrapment. ;-) FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758
Ulrich Windl wrote: On 23 May 2006 at 14:09, jdd wrote: If I follow well the thread it seems this is a meta-data download problem. If it's a download problem, why would the CPU be at 100%? Regards, Thanks for your support! I started to get confused already. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] [RC2] Can't write to fat32 filesystem with default rights
jdd wrote: and I know the problem. I have to share video files from Linux and Windows and such files can be up to 12Gb, so FAT32 is not a solution :-) jdd http://www.fs-driver.org http://www.fs-driver.orggives a near perfect and stable solution I am using on two video production systems with excellent results for quite some time now. E.g. on one 120 GB partition. My daily transfer needs are never less than 10 GB with an average of about 16 GB. The only really little drawback: you need an ext3 (or ext2) partition for sharing. And ext3 is well supported on the linux side, good fsck (just a bit on the slow side). So as a rule I am using ext3 for all /home partitions on dual boot systems. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] old KDE update
For a test I am looking for the supplementary KDE update_for_9.0. It has been taken off the mirrors everywhere. Does someone still have a copy on some accessible FTP server I could download? Thanks in advance! FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] recommendation for WLAN PCMCIA card?
Hartmut Meyer wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation for a PCMCIA WLAN card. + supported out of the box (also with upcoming 10.1 release) + 54MBit or better if possible Greetings from Stuhr hartmut My Netgear WG511 works just fine out of the box. And it comes for €25 only. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ndiswrapper missing on the beta8 CDs
Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) wrote: About the bug I posted bellow: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=160804 It has been closed with the following comment: [Andreas Jaeger]: We will not add it to our media, it will be available via ftp only. Can I have a why on that? I can't see the logics here. I didn't have a wired LAN available by the time of install, and it's not easy to get one, so you mean I'm forced to use floppies, usb sticks, or whatever other way I could get to download the packages somewhere else and install them on my machine? Yes, I fail to see the logics here. So you're simply stating that I can't have network connection because my wlan card isn't natively supported by the kernel? See, I would accept if you say it's a license problem with ndiswrapper (which I think isn't), but simply saying we will not isn't a polite answer. Oh, BTW, the ndiswrapper on factory doesn't match ther kernel installed by beta8 CDs, so I can't even use it, unless I switch my kernel too. Sometimes we just need to take into account the sheer number of non-native English speakers here. What Andreas meant to say most likely was: Novell/SUSE supports only HW configuration fulfilling at least one of the two conditions: Your wlan card works out of the box or you must have wired internet access. The real outcome is: ndiswrapper is not supported anymore since you might need it in order to have it. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ndiswrapper missing on the beta8 CDs
Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) wrote: About the bug I posted bellow: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=160804 It has been closed with the following comment: [Andreas Jaeger]: We will not add it to our media, it will be available via ftp only. Can I have a why on that? I can't see the logics here. I didn't have a wired LAN available by the time of install, and it's not easy to get one, so you mean I'm forced to use floppies, usb sticks, or whatever other way I could get to download the packages somewhere else and install them on my machine? Yes, I fail to see the logics here. So you're simply stating that I can't have network connection because my wlan card isn't natively supported by the kernel? See, I would accept if you say it's a license problem with ndiswrapper (which I think isn't), but simply saying we will not isn't a polite answer. Oh, BTW, the ndiswrapper on factory doesn't match ther kernel installed by beta8 CDs, so I can't even use it, unless I switch my kernel too. The WLAN strategy gets even more messy since (bug 148210) NetworkManager does support the fairly widespread prism54 chip through ndiswrapper only at present. So SUSE is aiming back to the good old rock-solid wired LAN, so it seems. Do not worry that bug 148210 has been declared fixed, it's just cosmetics for the time being: no fix has been submitted yet making ndiswrapper obsolete for prism54 support. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Beware of NetworkManager
There are a couple of non-documented shortcomings in this package I would like you all inform about: 1. NetworkManager at its present state cannot deal with WLAN card using the prism54 chip. The corresponding bug 148210 has been marked FIXED without submitting or communicating a fix. Workaround: Either do not use NetworkManager (the traditional method supports prism54 with no problems) or install ndiswrapper from the factory tree (not included in the beta isos!) and use the corresponding MS driver with ndiswrapper. Then NetworkManager can deal with it. Sort of a Trojan horse to get MS drivers into Linux. 2. NetworkManager relies on DCHP in a very rigid manner: DHCP must provide not only the IP address but also the name server address. As many DHCP servers sit in DSL routers and similar devices they are often limited in functionality. E.g. they cannot provided a fixed MAC-IP address relation. Naturally these routers work as the name servers. So in case you want to put your DHCP server on to another node this server needs to address the issue of having a different name server (the one in the router). All this because there is currently no way to specify a fixed name server address NetworkManager will use (bug 159524). FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] hidden comments in Bugzilla and no fix for testing and no timing for the fix?
Amongst others I have reported bug 148210. It got marked as fixed (no fix provided, so I cannot verify the fix). I find not only this strange but also there are comments missing like #46, #48 and #49. Moreover there is no entry in which milestone it got fixed. Does someone now if this common policy for an OpenSUSE product, so reporters and contributors get no idea how the bug got fixed (or if it got really fixed at all)? FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] installation stops during hardware detection
Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: Anyone any idea how to get around bug 158958? Thanks! FMF Found my workaround: since Beta 8 (for the first time ever) I need noapic both for installation and the rescue system. The installed system works fine without this parameter. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default Root Partition Size
David Wright wrote: Just a word of warning regarding the new default partition sizes suggested by YaST. I have a 10GB root partition on my laptop and just went to install IBM Rational Software Architect. The install files take up around 2.5GB of space and the installed program itself takes another 2GB (I eliminated some of the options I didn't need) Let's assume users have got a DVD burning device. Then the default setup of a SUSE 10.1 installation puts intermediate burning files into /tmp. Which is normally a directory under /. So just for this very purpose we almost 10GB free space. Otherwise users will just fail when duplicating a double layer DVD. And there is no checking by the burning program if /tmp has got enough space and even if so, the burning program would not even disclose where and how to change its temporary directory. Therefore a valid configuration for a full desktop setup needs either a separate 10GB /tmp partition or at least a 16GB / partition. Anything else would get an ordinary user in trouble as soon as DVD burning comes into place. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default Root Partition Size
houghi wrote: On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 03:49:58PM +0100, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: Let's assume users have got a DVD burning device. Then the default setup of a SUSE 10.1 installation puts intermediate burning files into /tmp. I have a DVD burner, 10GB space and no problems. Which is normally a directory under /. So just for this very purpose we almost 10GB free space. Otherwise users will just fail when duplicating a double layer DVD. You are talking about a dual layer DVD burner. Most people do not have a dual layer burner. snip Therefore a valid configuration for a full desktop setup needs either a separate 10GB /tmp partition or at least a 16GB / partition. Anything else would get an ordinary user in trouble as soon as DVD burning comes into place. So then please suggest how it should be calculated in your eyes. Also think that it should be workable on smaller HD's. Not everybody has a 250GB HD. houghi It doesn't help that YOU can work with a 10GB / partition, not even that I can work with 8GB. My suggestion: whenever hwinfo says there is a DVD burner in the system the default suggestion should be a separate 10GB /tmp partition. If there isn't enough space for it, post a warning and go for one / partition. The we are on the safe side. A more complicated approach would be to come up with a k3b or such defaulting its temporary space to the user's home directory. Very impractical, since there is a reason for a joint /tmp directory, isn't it? FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] installation stops during hardware detection
Anyone any idea how to get around bug 158958? Thanks! FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] suse xp home sp2?
Ulrich Windl wrote: Is there some guarantee that Zenworks is free from patent claims (from Novell)? The issue here is not just patent claims, the whole license situation around ZENworks is a bit foggy, since it comes NOT under a GPL but under an LGPL license. Which is legally questionable, LPGL explicitly is only applicable for libraries and derived (depending) software. Now have a look at yast sw_single and you will realize that in former SUSEs you will see a section Depencies. This section is gone now (why???), so you have to dig in (rpm -R) in order to find out what libraries ZENworks depends on (on mono and others) From LGPL text now: You must give prominent notice with each copy of the work that the Library is used in it and that the Library and its use are covered by this License. So where's the _prominent_ notice in ZENworks components? Therefore one could argue ZENworks is not derived from mono libraries, just because of the missing prominent notice. As devil's advocate I claim now: ZENworks LGPL license is void for the reasons I just lined out (and a few more). So what license does ZENworks run under? if any? Anybody proving I am wrong is very welcome :-) In lesser legalese: Why don't mono and ZENworks come with GPL license? What's the reason? FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] suse xp home sp2?
S Glasoe wrote: It doesn't really matter if people like FMF (former MD of Gartner Group) will help kill some Linux-distro's in marketplace. However, if he touches SUSE Linux or things that depends on it, people like me (Azerion, noob beta-tester that should not be doing that) will help kill FMF in real life. And very efficiently, believe me. Azerion Nothing in the software world deserves a death threat. No matter what happens with SUSE Linux, no one's life needs to be threatened for any reason whatsoever. Stan Right, you are, Stan, I'am sure Azerion tried just a little joke here. I am convinced, however, there are products (especially in software) who deserve to get eliminated. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] NetworkManager?
Martin Schlander wrote: I believe this to be true, but I can't get my Linksys (bcm4306 chipset, using ndiswrapper) to connect using (k)networkmanager - if I choose traditional method via ifup in yast nic module it connects fine (For testing purposes I'm using no encryption and dhcp - should be simple enough). Whether this problem is networkmanagerndiswrapper, networkmanager or knetworkmanager I don't have the slightest idea - but something isn't working right. I suspect some of the other people in this thread have had similar problems. One thing I might help with: After installing ndiswrapper and loading the module I did not manage to get NetworkManager working with the WLAN device right away. A reboot was necessary, not even init 1 - init 3 helped. Didn't have time to figure out why. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] NetworkManager?
Edward Dunagin wrote: NOT have this file: NetworkManager or knetworkmanager. am i missing something? Peace.ed To be exact: knetworkmanager hasn't been part of SUSE distros before 10.1 FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] NetworkManager?
Marcus Meissner wrote: Well, reading the changelog it does support ndiswrapper already. Ciao, Marcus The problem is getting more complicated: Following my tests, NetworkManager works somehow with ndiswrapper (somehow, as Network Manager supports only DHCP setups), but the ndiswrapper module is not part of the distribution anymore, appearently for license reasons. Which renders ndiswrapper unusable. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] inst-source not work as installation source
Does anybody whether and when ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source will work as an Installation Source for YaST2 Software Management again? FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] ndiswrapper module dropped for no reason?
Seems, the ndiswrapper module is not part of the OSS distribution anymore. This is based on some basic misunderstanding, I believe. Quoting my comment in Bugzilla: This is from SourceForge.net: Ndis driver wrapper for the Linux kernel Project Admins: kiszka, pgiri, pof Operating System: Linux License: GNU General Public License (GPL) Therefore: there are no licensing issues around ndiswrapper. If someone feels there are since one uses the ndiswapper module to make proprietary drivers availabe for linux one would need to exclude e.g. ghostview or koffice or samba and especially mount, too, since all these pieces of software make proprietary bits and pieces available to linux. mount enables vfat and ntfs, koffice enables MS word files and ghostview even manipulates pdf. I'd be happy to know what others think and recommend around this issue. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] NetworkManager?
Hi, as the NetworkManager package is not capable of supporting my prism54 card (bug 148210), does someone now whether there are plans for supporting ndiswrapper through NetworkManager? If not, the market for 10.1 will shrink substantially, as at least most notebooks come with wlan cards requiring ndiswrapper for proper function. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] GNOME in 10.1
General Version Freeze is with Beta1, Andreas I can't help it, but when will the Version Freeze of the package manager then happen? With 10.2 RC1? ;-) FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] WARNING about FACTORY ftp installations
Andreas Jaeger wrote: We have received bugreports that our current installer does not handle the FACTORY ftp tree correctly and installs packages for other platforms. [Bug 151933 and Bug 151954] I suggest to not use the tree for now, Andreas Shall we be informed asap, please, when the factory tree will be usable for installation again? In my current setup beta4 is impossible to install. Or shall we have to wait for BETAx or RCy? FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] FTP installation of factory
Does anyone have an idea, why my installation of the opensuse-factory via FTP fails both ways, when going via internet or from my local rsync mirror? When going local FTP, installation complains there are no packages groups available after choosing Gnome or KDE. When going internet the installation just hangs at Software Auswahl without complaining. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
