Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box
Am Wednesday 15 November 2006 10:02 schrieb jdd: Lukas Ocilka a écrit : As you can see, it's a bit more complicated and even YaST developers aren't sometimes sure about the correct solution :) ;) so it will be possible to document this on the wiki. If I correctly understand, the expected action is always on the left? I find this a bit curious, but may be it's only me :-( Sigi, what is the state of publishing the YaST HIG ? bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box
jdd wrote: Lukas Ocilka a écrit : As you can see, it's a bit more complicated and even YaST developers aren't sometimes sure about the correct solution :) ;) so it will be possible to document this on the wiki. If I correctly understand, the expected action is always on the left? I find this a bit curious, but may be it's only me :-( As I've written before, we plan to have a wiki-based YaST Dialog Style Guide but for now (openSUSE 10.2 Beta/RC1 phase) we don't have enough time to start it. If I think about it ... yes ... it seems that the expected action is on the left. But, even if the expected action was [ No ] (cannot imagine the situation now) in the [ Yes ] [ No ] popup, [ Yes ] would be still on the left side. Of course, we have such style guide but it's a bit obsolete and has about (maybe I'm wrong) about 400 pages (with images). It takes weeks to go through it and select the important parts to be written into the wiki. It also needs the general idea (structure) at fist, that also takes some time to design it well. L. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box
Lukas Ocilka a écrit : So, here are some rules: [ OK ] [ Cancel ] [ OK ] [ Cancel ] [ Skip ] [ Abort ] [ Retry ] [ Abort ] [ Retry ] [ Ignore ] [ Yes ] [ No ] [ Continue ] [ Cancel ] abort and cancel are nearly the same, so * why two words? * why a different layout (abort on left, cancel on right)? thanks better have all this written. Consistency in the interface is of course not the first thing to do, but probably should be the second :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box
Andreas Jaeger wrote: jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andreas Jaeger a écrit : jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure of that, But I have the feeling than the boxes asking for OK, cancel, retry are not all the same. I mean that some times the OK button is on the right, sometimes on the left of the box (sometimes the OK is a big left icon, when most of the time the icons are only decoration. If those are in YaST: Please make screenshots and open a bugreport, well... what is the normal way? (not necessary to fill a bug report in that case) First case: cancel retry OK or second case OK cancel retry or??? I don't remember :-(. Jiri? Actually, we have some non-written rules. Or they are written but internally. Our plan is to release a wiki-based YaST Dialog Style Guide but after openSUSE 10.2 is out. So, here are some rules: [ OK ] [ Cancel ] [ OK ] [ Cancel ] [ Skip ] [ Abort ] [ Retry ] [ Abort ] [ Retry ] [ Ignore ] [ Yes ] [ No ] [ Continue ] [ Cancel ] Because these rules are still not officially 'written', it might be a bit hard to file a bug against them :) ;) Lukas signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box
Am Tuesday 14 November 2006 17:57 schrieb jdd: Lukas Ocilka a écrit : So, here are some rules: [ OK ] [ Cancel ] [ OK ] [ Cancel ] [ Skip ] [ Abort ] [ Retry ] [ Abort ] [ Retry ] [ Ignore ] [ Yes ] [ No ] [ Continue ] [ Cancel ] abort and cancel are nearly the same, so * why two words? * why a different layout (abort on left, cancel on right)? it cames from the time, where Abort did close the complete YaST window and Cancel just canceld one action (esp. in a popup box). -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box
jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure of that, But I have the feeling than the boxes asking for OK, cancel, retry are not all the same. I mean that some times the OK button is on the right, sometimes on the left of the box (sometimes the OK is a big left icon, when most of the time the icons are only decoration. If those are in YaST: Please make screenshots and open a bugreport, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpqlPjHbdNSR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box
Andreas Jaeger a écrit : jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure of that, But I have the feeling than the boxes asking for OK, cancel, retry are not all the same. I mean that some times the OK button is on the right, sometimes on the left of the box (sometimes the OK is a big left icon, when most of the time the icons are only decoration. If those are in YaST: Please make screenshots and open a bugreport, well... what is the normal way? (not necessary to fill a bug report in that case) First case: cancel retry OK or second case OK cancel retry or??? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box
jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andreas Jaeger a écrit : jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure of that, But I have the feeling than the boxes asking for OK, cancel, retry are not all the same. I mean that some times the OK button is on the right, sometimes on the left of the box (sometimes the OK is a big left icon, when most of the time the icons are only decoration. If those are in YaST: Please make screenshots and open a bugreport, well... what is the normal way? (not necessary to fill a bug report in that case) First case: cancelretry OK or second case OK cancel retry or??? I don't remember :-(. Jiri? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpj9rmFV0AhV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box
--nextPart1327252.NhjGFaoLKR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 12 November 2006 13:07, Andreas Jaeger wrote: I don't remember :-(. Jiri? I'm sure it depends on the GUI style you want to follow. GNOME/GTK is=20 using Cancel OK, KDE/Qt is using OK Cancel... IMO all dialogs in YaST Qt-GUI should use OK Cancel. Well, at least if=20 it's running under KDE. I know KDE has a setting to change the button=20 order so KDE apps look better under GNOME, but I'm not sure if it's=20 possible with pure Qt applications as well. Andras =2D-=20 Quanta Plus developer - http://quanta.kdewebdev.org K Desktop Environment - http://www.kde.org --nextPart1327252.NhjGFaoLKR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBFVwsSTQdfac6L/08RAl2yAJ4nUuhq88WZxYinNayG6hqWIbb6TgCgljd5 AqWV5vaWNi5rJ45dNhDxSnM= =nmUo -END PGP SIGNATURE- --nextPart1327252.NhjGFaoLKR-- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box
Andras Mantia a écrit : I'm sure it depends on the GUI style you want to follow. GNOME/GTK is=20 using Cancel OK, KDE/Qt is using OK Cancel... why make things simple... that's probably the rule. mozilla or yast gives yes No, cancel on the right, when GIMP gives cancel accept I feel this quite perturbating as it makes me fail to do the right thing from time to time But I didn't know it was a GUI war problem :-((( thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] ok box
I'm not sure of that, But I have the feeling than the boxes asking for OK, cancel, retry are not all the same. I mean that some times the OK button is on the right, sometimes on the left of the box (sometimes the OK is a big left icon, when most of the time the icons are only decoration. is there a openSUSE standard? if not, there should be one :-). Of course several options must probably thought of :-) any comment? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
