Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-16 Thread Andreas Hanke
Christoph Thiel schrieb:
 Therefore, I'd like to ask YOU to help identify those bugs, that are
 currently hiding under the radar (ie. aren't red) and should be elevated.

Given that today is officially the last day where non-Blockers are
allowed to be fixed, I'd like to point at the following two non-Blockers
which are still annoying enough (and have fixes attached):



https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221383
The gdm default configuration file (/opt/gnome/share/gdm/defaults.conf)
is corrupted because it contains a comment that is not commented out:

Willing script, none is shipped, X11's one is used by default.

Should be:

# Willing script, none is shipped, X11's one is used by default.

This invalidates the file and causes all values below the corrupted line
to be discarded, esp. the MinimalUID setting. I assume that the impact
of this is higher than currently known and documented in the bug report.



https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220300
Alacarte is untranslated although it installs many translations because
it doesn't find them. I have a feeling that the bug is currently
incorrectly assigned because of a misunderstanding (alacarte doesn't
have anything to do with gnome-main-menu) - can you investigate?



Andreas Hanke
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-16 Thread Juan Erbes

2006/11/16, Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Juan Erbes schrieb:
 Other bug I view in bugzilla (I found it in my system, but at this
 time, it was registered in bugzilla) is with the hal-resmgr, and it
 appear the last weekend as resolved, but the new package with the
 fixes, do'nt appear in the repositories.

Be patient, syncing the packages out needs a long time (sometimes a
whole week).

The issue is definitely resolved. Maybe even wait for RC1 (today in 1 week).


Well!, very nice notice!

But for RC1 the grub installer related bugs will be resolved?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-16 Thread Andreas Hanke
Juan Erbes schrieb:
 But for RC1 the grub installer related bugs will be resolved?

Yes, they will be, or are already; search Bugzilla and include FIXED
bugs in your search.

Please, let's not make this thread off-topic; it is used to track bugs
which are already in Bugzilla, known to be not yet fixed, and
underestimated.

If you have a particular Bug-ID that you know to be still unresolved and
having a too low severity or too little attention, use this thread; if
you do not have a Bug-ID or just want to ask questions about a bug, post
a completely new thread.

Especially, always watch this page:
http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs

I can see stuff there that sounds very much like your issue and is striked.

Did I already tell you to include FIXED bugs in the search settings when
searching Bugzilla?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-16 Thread Juan Erbes

2006/11/17, Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Juan Erbes schrieb:
 But for RC1 the grub installer related bugs will be resolved?

Yes, they will be, or are already; search Bugzilla and include FIXED
bugs in your search.

Please, let's not make this thread off-topic; it is used to track bugs
which are already in Bugzilla, known to be not yet fixed, and
underestimated.

If you have a particular Bug-ID that you know to be still unresolved and
having a too low severity or too little attention, use this thread; if
you do not have a Bug-ID or just want to ask questions about a bug, post
a completely new thread.

Especially, always watch this page:
http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs

I can see stuff there that sounds very much like your issue and is
striked.

Did I already tell you to include FIXED bugs in the search settings when
searching Bugzilla?



Thanks


Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-12 Thread Andreas Hanke
Christoph Thiel schrieb:
 [...]

I'd like to point at bug 210935:

The istanbul package is completely broken. The current summary of this
bug is just a tiny subset the brokenness: It also installs its gconf
schemas into /etc/gconf which doesn't work at all and other ugly things.

I will attach a fix for the packaging brokenness shortly. The bug is
ugly because istanbul had already been broken (in a different way) in 10.1.

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-12 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 12 November 2006 17:42, Andreas Hanke wrote:
 And another one:

 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220274

 I have heard that very often. I think it's a problem with the native
 x86_64 build and a duplicate of bug 219982 which is already Critical,
 but a confirmation would be nice.

I doubt it. Doesn't work at all with sun java 1.5 and starts slowly don't 
sound like duplicate bugs
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-12 Thread Andreas Hanke
Anders Johansson schrieb:
 On Sunday 12 November 2006 17:42, Andreas Hanke wrote:
 And another one:

 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220274

 I have heard that very often. I think it's a problem with the native
 x86_64 build and a duplicate of bug 219982 which is already Critical,
 but a confirmation would be nice.
 
 I doubt it. Doesn't work at all with sun java 1.5 and starts slowly don't 
 sound like duplicate bugs

It's both specific to x86_64 and there was another report (don't have
the # at hand) where the reporter said that completely removing Sun Java
resolved the slowness.

It doesn't really matter whether it's a duplicate, an OOo startup time
of almost 2 minutes is certainly unacceptable and needs more attention
than Normal, especially if it happens to many people.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-08 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hi,

Christoph Thiel wrote:
 Therefore, I'd like to ask YOU to help identify those bugs, that are
 currently hiding under the radar (ie. aren't red) and should be elevated.
 I'd propose posting the bug numbers in this thread + giving a short
 rationale. Please keep in mind that we should try to focus on the bugs that
 really affect a majority of the users!
   

I would like that someone looks at bug 217259 - YaST2 x86-64 - Printer
segfaults https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=217259

Tobias
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-08 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Tobias Burnus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 Christoph Thiel wrote:
 Therefore, I'd like to ask YOU to help identify those bugs, that are
 currently hiding under the radar (ie. aren't red) and should be elevated.
 I'd propose posting the bug numbers in this thread + giving a short
 rationale. Please keep in mind that we should try to focus on the bugs that
 really affect a majority of the users!
   

 I would like that someone looks at bug 217259 - YaST2 x86-64 - Printer
 segfaults https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=217259

Will be done, I moved it forward,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-07 Thread Glenn Holmer
On Saturday 04 November 2006 11:18, Christoph Thiel wrote:
 Therefore, I'd like to ask YOU to help identify those bugs, that are
 currently hiding under the radar (ie. aren't red) and should be
 elevated.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=130452 (Update tomcat to 
current version)

Tomcat 5.5 was released over two years ago, please update.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-07 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

Am Dienstag, 7. November 2006 01:35 schrieb Christoph Thiel:
 On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 12:01:15AM +0100, Christian Boltz wrote:
  two other candidate to fix for 10.2 I missed yesterday - both have
  the fix already included:
[...]
 Both are fixed already in STABLE and will hit Beta2 ;)

:-)

 [You need to watch opensuse-commit more closely ;)]

Yes, seems so :-/


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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-07 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Hi,

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=212053
Set promote_secondaries=1 by default

Rationale: If you have multiple IP addresses on one network
card and you delete the primary address, all other IP addresses
on this card vanish unexpectedly. This has bitten quite some
people in the past. Setting promote_secondaries=1 fixes this
bug.

I can provide a patch for this if needed.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-07 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Just filed another bug after notification from upstream.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218948
Resizing Vista NTFS partitions may keep Vista from booting

It seems that current Windows Vista Release Candidates refuse
to boot after any of the NTFS partitions they access are resized.
Details at http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html#vista
The linux-ntfs developers appreciate any testing and reports.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-07 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 12:15:40AM +0100, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
 Just filed another bug after notification from upstream.
 
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218948
 Resizing Vista NTFS partitions may keep Vista from booting
 
 It seems that current Windows Vista Release Candidates refuse
 to boot after any of the NTFS partitions they access are resized.
 Details at http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html#vista
 The linux-ntfs developers appreciate any testing and reports.

Thanks for the heads-up!


Best,
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-06 Thread Christoph Thiel
Christian, many thanks for sharing these with us!

On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:32:57PM +0100, Christian Boltz wrote:

 My candidates:
 
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216485
 opensuse-updater shows error message in tooltip
 zypp-checkpatches-wrapper does not get the suid-root bit if running with 
 permissions.secure. This makes opensuse-updater unuseable.
 Please reconsider the settings for permissions.secure (or remove zmd 
 when running with permissions.secure - I consider its broken permission 
 concept more critical ;-)

Let's get the security teams point of view here.


 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=148105
 no error message when RPM database is missing
 YaST silently switches to new installation mode if I start in upgrade
 mode with the RPM database not available. There should be an error message
 that informs the user about the switch to new installation mode and the
 reason for it. Probably easy to fix (add the error message), and can avoid
 some problems.

+1


 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=166881
 solver should provide dont delete $otherpackage as possible conflict 
 solution.
 This one could avoid several conflict messages. However, I'm not sure if 
 it should be done at this late stage of development :-/

Right, nothing for the 10.2 timeframe.


 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=171082
 YaST2 AppArmor report module should use radio buttons instead of 
 checkboxes for archived reports
 Just an enhancement, but a usability problem and probably easy to fix.

So, where is the patch? ;)


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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-06 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 10:11:08PM +0100, Christian Boltz wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Am Sonntag, 5. November 2006 20:32 schrieb Christian Boltz:
  My candidates:
 
 Another one:
 
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=193095
 Font of Gnome apps don't have antialiasing in KDE
 Looks terrible :-(
 (The GIMP setup assistant looks even more terrible than the two 
 screenshots in the bugreport - I can attach the GIMP screenshot if you 
 want/request it.)

+1


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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-06 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:31:04AM +0100, Christoph Thiel wrote:
 Christian, many thanks for sharing these with us!
 
 On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:32:57PM +0100, Christian Boltz wrote:
 
  My candidates:
  
  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216485
  opensuse-updater shows error message in tooltip
  zypp-checkpatches-wrapper does not get the suid-root bit if running with 
  permissions.secure. This makes opensuse-updater unuseable.
  Please reconsider the settings for permissions.secure (or remove zmd 
  when running with permissions.secure - I consider its broken permission 
  concept more critical ;-)
 
 Let's get the security teams point of view here.

Rational:

You likely do not want users to be able to run system administrator
tasks in secure mode at all, without root password protection.

It should probably not start opensuse-updater then.
 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-06 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

first: 
two other candidate to fix for 10.2 I missed yesterday - both have the 
fix already included:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=190084
apparmor.vim missing
The apparmor syntax highlighting file for vim is missing (was removed in 
10.1 because it was terribly outdated). I have updated and fixed it. 
(well, vim syntax profiles can cause real headache...)

The working file is attached to the bugreport. It simply needs to be 
added to the vim package.
(Not sure if the assignee is the correct one.)


https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=188068
pin -v 100 foo tries to su 100 (su $2)
The description says it all, and the fix is available. (Martin?)


second:

Am Montag, 6. November 2006 10:36 schrieb Marcus Meissner:
 On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:31:04AM +0100, Christoph Thiel wrote:
  On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:32:57PM +0100, Christian Boltz wrote:
   https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216485
   zypp-checkpatches-wrapper does not get the suid-root bit if
   running with permissions.secure. This makes opensuse-updater
   unuseable. 
[...]
 You likely do not want users to be able to run system administrator
 tasks in secure mode at all, without root password protection.

Hmm, zen-updater runs with permissions.secure in 10.1 [1] - and even 
grants _permanent_ permissions once one has entered the root password.

Since I didn't install any updates with opensuse-updater yet: how does 
it handle installing updates? Does it ask for the root password every 
time when installing packages (as susewatcher did)?
(If yes, I would consider it more secure than zen-updater.)

 It should probably not start opensuse-updater then.

Not starting the updater at all isn't a solution also because not 
installing updates will make the system insecure over time.
(Yes, I know that there's a difference bitween installing updates and 
being notified about updates - but it's easy to forget to run the 
update when nothing notifies you...)

To sum it up:
- being notified about updates should be available independend of the 
  permissions.* level (I don't see that this could cause any harm 
  because a user could also check the RPM database for outdated 
  packages ;-)
- missing notification could cause security problems (if nobody installs
  the fixed packages)
- installing updates should require the root password (maybe 
  permissions.easy could be an exception)

If you really don't change your decision here, I foretell that this will 
become a FAQ for 10.2 ;-)


Regards,

Christian Boltz

PS @ Christoph: regarding bug 171082: sorry, I only speak german, 
   english, pfälzisch, bash, php, perl, (my)sql and HTML - but not 
   ycp :-(

[1] dunno for 10.2 - I uninstalled it ;)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-06 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 12:01:15AM +0100, Christian Boltz wrote:

 first: 
 two other candidate to fix for 10.2 I missed yesterday - both have the 
 fix already included:
 
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=190084
 apparmor.vim missing
 The apparmor syntax highlighting file for vim is missing (was removed in 
 10.1 because it was terribly outdated). I have updated and fixed it. 
 (well, vim syntax profiles can cause real headache...)
 
 The working file is attached to the bugreport. It simply needs to be 
 added to the vim package.
 (Not sure if the assignee is the correct one.)
 
 
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=188068
 pin -v 100 foo tries to su 100 (su $2)
 The description says it all, and the fix is available. (Martin?)

Both are fixed already in STABLE and will hit Beta2 ;) [You need to watch
opensuse-commit more closely ;)]


Best,
Christoph
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-05 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 09:37:50AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:

  Therefore, I'd like to ask YOU to help identify those bugs, that are
  currently hiding under the radar (ie. aren't red) and should be
  elevated. I'd propose posting the bug numbers in this thread + giving
  a short rationale. Please keep in mind that we should try to focus on
  the bugs that really affect a majority of the users!
 
 Where does one see this status indication? And how does one alter or
 influence it?

What do you mean by status indication? If you are talking about bug
severity, I'd like to ask you to refrain from changing it. Technically,
that's something which should be exclusively done by engineering or product
management.


 I surely hope I don't have to live with an X server that dies every couple
 of hours (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216149).
 
 And the beta1 font rendering is pretty poor. I have work-arounds for both,
 but they are not tenable in the long term since they both require running
 alternate versions of packages in place of those that are part of the
 distribution.

I'm in good hope that we will be able to resolve that issue very soon.


Best,
Christoph
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-05 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 09:06:32PM +0100, Martin Schlander wrote:
 Lørdag 04 november 2006 20:31 skrev Randall R Schulz:
   Where does one see this status indication? And how does one alter or
   influence it?
 
  I'd still like to hear answers to these questions.
 
 Go to any bug, this for instance:
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216097
 
 The status is clearly marked in red, New. You can change it at the
 bottom but in this particular case Christoph asked to post to the
 mailinglist with reasons for making a given bug a blocker, not changing
 it autonomously, as we'd then soon have 800 blockers.

Exactly! The plan is to get a better idea of where the problems are, so we
can make sure to address them. (However, I can't promise that each and every
blocker will be resolved until GM -- at some point blockers aren't real
blockers anymore ... the usual disclaimers apply, etc. ;))


Best,
Christoph
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-05 Thread Christoph Thiel
Andreas,

first of all, many thanks for the extensive list!

On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 02:41:24AM +0100, Andreas Hanke wrote:
 Christoph Thiel schrieb:
  Therefore, I'd like to ask YOU to help identify those bugs, that are
  currently hiding under the radar (ie. aren't red) and should be elevated.
  I'd propose posting the bug numbers in this thread + giving a short
  rationale. Please keep in mind that we should try to focus on the bugs that
  really affect a majority of the users!
 
 OK, here we go:
 
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206954
 There is still no audio player installed by default for GNOME users who
 decide not to use the AddOn product.

I have that issue in my inbox already -- should be resolved on Beta2.


 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216560
 The author of cdrecord heavily dislikes it if other programs call
 themselves cdrecord. Even if it's just an oversight and might break
 translations, we should fix the wodim package description to avoid such
 trouble.

+1, a cdrecord compat-symlink won't vanish any time soon, though.


 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=217660
 This package, part of the GNOME platform, is completely broken and the
 fix is easy. More and more packages from www.gnomefiles.org depend on
 it, users should be able to install them and not be blocked by a
 relatively stupid packaging bug.

+1, elevated.

 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=217326
 This is happening to a lot of people and is really annoying. It makes
 zmd unusable and happens even during first installations, so people
 don't get their security update repos synced with zmd.

- blocker.


 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218032
 The gtk2ification of gnucash was impatiently awaited by many people, and
 now gnucash doesn't start up. There was a different bug where gnucash
 didn't start up that was marked critical. This one should be critical,
 too - because gnucash is installed by default.

- crit.


 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=217875
 Updating lua so extremely late was already wrong in the first place, but
 now at least the consequences should be minimized. File conflicts are a
 serious packaging bug, and users will see it if they try to install two
 games that need different lua versions. The packages should be split as
 suggested in comment 1 and the remaining conflicting parts marked as
 conflicting.

+1


 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216982
 Don't know how to solve, but at least there should be an Xgl update for
 10.1 that fixes the wrong %postun script so that at least those users
 who install patches regularly can update properly.

+1, IIRC there is a compiz update in the queue already -- I'll look into
this on Monday.


 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=214884
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210922
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216880
 There should not be any unresolved dependencies in the final product.
 This looks very buggy.

Right ;)


 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216155
 If the report is correct, it seems to break the build of Xine, which is
 very bad because it's one of the first package many users are typically
 installing.

+1, easy to fix.


 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215392
 Gives the desktop an unfinished feeling and users are being told to use
 the eject context menu because of possible data loss. They should not
 run into an error message when doing that.

+1.


Best,
Christoph
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-05 Thread Randall R Schulz
Cristoph,

On Sunday 05 November 2006 03:37, Christoph Thiel wrote:
 ...
 
  Where does one see this status indication? And how does one alter
  or influence it?

 What do you mean by status indication? If you are talking about bug
 severity, I'd like to ask you to refrain from changing it.
 Technically, that's something which should be exclusively done by
 engineering or product management.

OK, severity. What I was really looking for is a way to see a listing 
of these bugs. I tried to generate a list, but apparently I'm using the 
Bugzilla Advanced Search feature incorrectly, 'cause I get zero 
listings.

What combination of settings there will lsit the bugs with the severity 
level(s) you want reviewed?


  I surely hope I don't have to live with an X server that dies every
  couple of hours
  (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216149).
 
  And the beta1 font rendering is pretty poor. I have work-arounds
  for both, but they are not tenable in the long term since they both
  require running alternate versions of packages in place of those
  that are part of the distribution.

 I'm in good hope that we will be able to resolve that issue very
 soon.

Good... but: Which one? The X server crash or the font rendering? I can 
live with the latter (mostly be rebuilding the FreeType2 package), but 
the X server is a severe problem.


 Best,
 Christoph


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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-05 Thread Andras Mantia
On Sunday 05 November 2006 13:56, Christoph Thiel wrote:
  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216982
  Don't know how to solve, but at least there should be an Xgl update
  for 10.1 that fixes the wrong %postun script so that at least those
  users who install patches regularly can update properly.

 +1, IIRC there is a compiz update in the queue already -- I'll look
 into this on Monday.

I'm not sure that this is the best solution as upgrade will fail for all 
those who missed this last update of 10.1.  I'd rather do what I 
suggested to fix the %postun script in the 10.2 package and remove the 
unneded SuSEConfig.xdm in an update for xgl for 10.2.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-05 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:03:57AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:

 What combination of settings there will lsit the bugs with the severity 
 level(s) you want reviewed?

I was looking for hiding bugs in the Major/Normal/Minor/Enhancement range.


   I surely hope I don't have to live with an X server that dies every
   couple of hours
   (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216149).
  
   And the beta1 font rendering is pretty poor. I have work-arounds for
   both, but they are not tenable in the long term since they both
   require running alternate versions of packages in place of those that
   are part of the distribution.
 
  I'm in good hope that we will be able to resolve that issue very soon.
 
 Good... but: Which one? The X server crash or the font rendering? I can
 live with the latter (mostly be rebuilding the FreeType2 package), but the
 X server is a severe problem.

... the font rendering.


Best,
Christoph
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-05 Thread Andras Mantia
On Sunday 05 November 2006 18:09, Christoph Thiel wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 05:31:54PM +0200, Andras Mantia wrote:
  On Sunday 05 November 2006 13:56, Christoph Thiel wrote:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216982
Don't know how to solve, but at least there should be an Xgl
update for 10.1 that fixes the wrong %postun script so that at
least those users who install patches regularly can update
properly.
  
   +1, IIRC there is a compiz update in the queue already -- I'll
   look into this on Monday.
 
  I'm not sure that this is the best solution as upgrade will fail
  for all those who missed this last update of 10.1.  I'd rather do
  what I suggested to fix the %postun script in the 10.2 package and
  remove the unneded SuSEConfig.xdm in an update for xgl for 10.2.

 I guess you already stated this in the bug? :)

Sure, just that the idea was different here, so I thought it is wise to 
mention. ;-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-05 Thread Felix Miata
On 2006/11/05 12:53 (GMT+-0500) Carl-Daniel Hailfinger apparently typed:

 Christoph Thiel wrote:

 while going through the openSUSE 10.2 RED bugs (Blocker/Criticals), I
 thought it might be a good idea to ask for some help regarding bug
 prioritization.

 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218122

 Enable more than 15 partitions for libata. I have already written a
 patch for this bug. Once it is applied, we have up to 63 partitions
 per libata/SCSI drive and the warning in the installer can disappear.

Why didn't you attach your patch to the existing bug that AJ already
reopened once? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=214992
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-05 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

Am Samstag, 4. November 2006 18:18 schrieb Christoph Thiel:
 while going through the openSUSE 10.2 RED bugs (Blocker/Criticals),
 I thought it might be a good idea to ask for some help regarding bug
 prioritization.

My candidates:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216485
opensuse-updater shows error message in tooltip
zypp-checkpatches-wrapper does not get the suid-root bit if running with 
permissions.secure. This makes opensuse-updater unuseable.
Please reconsider the settings for permissions.secure (or remove zmd 
when running with permissions.secure - I consider its broken permission 
concept more critical ;-)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=148105
no error message when RPM database is missing
YaST silently switches to new installation mode if I start in upgrade 
mode with the RPM database not available. There should be an error 
message that informs the user about the switch to new installation 
mode and the reason for it.
Probably easy to fix (add the error message), and can avoid some 
problems.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=166881
solver should provide dont delete $otherpackage as possible conflict 
solution.
This one could avoid several conflict messages. However, I'm not sure if 
it should be done at this late stage of development :-/

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=171082
YaST2 AppArmor report module should use radio buttons instead of 
checkboxes for archived reports
Just an enhancement, but a usability problem and probably easy to fix.

I also vote for fixing all bugs that have a patch attached already.


Regards,

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[opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Christoph Thiel
Hi everyone,

while going through the openSUSE 10.2 RED bugs (Blocker/Criticals), I
thought it might be a good idea to ask for some help regarding bug
prioritization.

openSUSE 10.2 is going to be released rather soon. With the current bug
count of 910 open bugs filed for 10.2, we will certainly have to postpone
fixing some of them to 10.3.

Therefore, I'd like to ask YOU to help identify those bugs, that are
currently hiding under the radar (ie. aren't red) and should be elevated.
I'd propose posting the bug numbers in this thread + giving a short
rationale. Please keep in mind that we should try to focus on the bugs that
really affect a majority of the users!


Thanks in advance,
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Randall R Schulz
Christoph,

On Saturday 04 November 2006 09:18, Christoph Thiel wrote:
 ...

 Therefore, I'd like to ask YOU to help identify those bugs, that are
 currently hiding under the radar (ie. aren't red) and should be
 elevated. I'd propose posting the bug numbers in this thread + giving
 a short rationale. Please keep in mind that we should try to focus on
 the bugs that really affect a majority of the users!

Where does one see this status indication? And how does one alter or 
influence it?

I surely hope I don't have to live with an X server that dies every 
couple of hours (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216149).

And the beta1 font rendering is pretty poor. I have work-arounds for 
both, but they are not tenable in the long term since they both require 
running alternate versions of packages in place of those that are part 
of the distribution.


 Christoph


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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Christoph Thiel wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 while going through the openSUSE 10.2 RED bugs (Blocker/Criticals), I
 thought it might be a good idea to ask for some help regarding bug
 prioritization.
 
 openSUSE 10.2 is going to be released rather soon. With the current bug
 count of 910 open bugs filed for 10.2, we will certainly have to postpone
 fixing some of them to 10.3.

What about bugs which have patches attached? Even if they are not red right
now, it causes less work to apply the patches than it causes to release
updates after GA. How should we tag these bugs? Keyword Fix_is_Ready?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 09:37:50AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 I surely hope I don't have to live with an X server that dies every 
 couple of hours (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216149).

Still crashing the last RPM you tried? Please comment in bugzilla.

 And the beta1 font rendering is pretty poor. I have work-arounds for 
 both, but they are not tenable in the long term since they both require 
 running alternate versions of packages in place of those that are part 
 of the distribution.

We have

1) legal (*)
2) technical

issues with/when enabling Subpixel hinting.

Best regards,
Stefan

(*) probably resolved since friday

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Randall R Schulz
Stefan,

On Saturday 04 November 2006 10:15, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 09:37:50AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
  I surely hope I don't have to live with an X server that dies every
  couple of hours
  (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216149).

 Still crashing the last RPM you tried? Please comment in bugzilla.

I've replied there with all the information requested.


  And the beta1 font rendering is pretty poor. I have work-arounds
  for both, but they are not tenable in the long term since they both
  require running alternate versions of packages in place of those
  that are part of the distribution.

 We have

 1) legal (*)
 2) technical

 issues with/when enabling Subpixel hinting.

How is it that you have (2) when I do not by the simple expedient of 
rebuilding the package with the proper configuration change?


 Best regards,
 Stefan

 (*) probably resolved since friday


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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Peter Czanik

Hello,

Christoph Thiel wrote:

while going through the openSUSE 10.2 RED bugs (Blocker/Criticals), I
thought it might be a good idea to ask for some help regarding bug
prioritization.
  

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=202133
If it's not fixed, there is no X.org on Pegasos PPC. That would make 
openSUSE on this platform quite useless... Bye,


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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 04 November 2006 09:37, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 Christoph,

 On Saturday 04 November 2006 09:18, Christoph Thiel wrote:
  ...
 
  Therefore, I'd like to ask YOU to help identify those bugs, that
  are currently hiding under the radar (ie. aren't red) and should
  be elevated. ...

 Where does one see this status indication? And how does one alter or
 influence it?

I'd still like to hear answers to these questions.


 ...


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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Martin Schlander
Lørdag 04 november 2006 18:18 skrev Christoph Thiel:
 openSUSE 10.2 is going to be released rather soon. With the current bug
 count of 910 open bugs filed for 10.2, we will certainly have to postpone
 fixing some of them to 10.3.

 Therefore, I'd like to ask YOU to help identify those bugs, that are
 currently hiding under the radar (ie. aren't red) and should be elevated.
 I'd propose posting the bug numbers in this thread + giving a short
 rationale. Please keep in mind that we should try to focus on the bugs that
 really affect a majority of the users!

Maybe we should also help you guys clean up a little?

Some of the 900+ bugs are mine, and some of those have either been resolved 
already or are wontfixes, but their status hasn't been changed. I assume this 
applies to other reports than mine too.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204826
I understand that the evil bastards at broadcom won't allow redistribution of 
their stupid firmware. Might as well close it if no progress is going on.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215649
Obviously a wontfix.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215269
The localization will be in b2 or b2+ - the report is pretty irrelevant.

3 down, 907 to go.

I also have some for 10.1 that are either fixed or irrelvant, will close em up 
now.

Martin


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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 10:48:02AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 Stefan,
 
 On Saturday 04 November 2006 10:15, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
  On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 09:37:50AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
   I surely hope I don't have to live with an X server that dies every
   couple of hours
   (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216149).
 
  Still crashing the last RPM you tried? Please comment in bugzilla.
 
 I've replied there with all the information requested.

Ok. Then we know which update has been responsible for the regression
you see on your system. Unfortunately the update contains huge changes
(over about 3 months git master checkins), so it won't be easy to fix
this issue. Therefore I can't make any promises to have this fixed
until final release! And going back is no option ATM.

   And the beta1 font rendering is pretty poor. I have work-arounds
   for both, but they are not tenable in the long term since they both
   require running alternate versions of packages in place of those
   that are part of the distribution.
 
  We have
 
  1) legal (*)
  2) technical
 
  issues with/when enabling Subpixel hinting.
 
 How is it that you have (2) when I do not by the simple expedient of 
 rebuilding the package with the proper configuration change?

That it works for you does not mean, that it works for all
fonts. Subpixel rendering is currently broken in freetype2, believe
me. This issue is under investigation and the feature won't be enabled
again until we have fixed it.

Best regards,
Stefan

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Martin Schlander
Lørdag 04 november 2006 20:31 skrev Randall R Schulz:
  Where does one see this status indication? And how does one alter or
  influence it?

 I'd still like to hear answers to these questions.

Go to any bug, this for instance:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216097

The status is clearly marked in red, New. You can change it at the bottom 
but in this particular case Christoph asked to post to the mailinglist with 
reasons for making a given bug a blocker, not changing it autonomously, as 
we'd then soon have 800 blockers.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Randall R Schulz
Stefan,

On Saturday 04 November 2006 12:00, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 10:48:02AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
  Stefan,
 
  On Saturday 04 November 2006 10:15, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
   On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 09:37:50AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
I surely hope I don't have to live with an X server that dies
every couple of hours
(https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216149).
  
   Still crashing the last RPM you tried? Please comment in
   bugzilla.
 
  I've replied there with all the information requested.

 Ok. Then we know which update has been responsible for the regression
 you see on your system. Unfortunately the update contains huge
 changes (over about 3 months git master checkins), so it won't be
 easy to fix this issue. Therefore I can't make any promises to have
 this fixed until final release! And going back is no option ATM.

Why is going back to a stable release not an option? And how do you 
figure that a frequently bombing X server _is_ an option?


And the beta1 font rendering is pretty poor. I have
work-arounds for both, but they are not tenable in the long
term since they both require running alternate versions of
packages in place of those that are part of the distribution.
  
   We have
  
   1) legal (*)
   2) technical
  
   issues with/when enabling Subpixel hinting.
 
  How is it that you have (2) when I do not by the simple expedient
  of rebuilding the package with the proper configuration change?

 That it works for you does not mean, that it works for all
 fonts. Subpixel rendering is currently broken in freetype2, believe
 me. This issue is under investigation and the feature won't be
 enabled again until we have fixed it.

Perhaps it would make more sense to adjust the schedule to the 
requirements of the software included rather than the reverse?

The fact is, in both these cases you switched to new versions of 
software when those versions were inferior to the ones they replaced. 
Why do this?


 Stefan

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Stefan Dirsch
Randall

You don't know the details, why we switched to newer releases of X.Org
and freetype2. And no, we will not discuss all decisions for software
updates. Especially when there are legal issues.

Best regards,
Stefan

On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 12:12:36PM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 Stefan,
 
 On Saturday 04 November 2006 12:00, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
  On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 10:48:02AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
   Stefan,
  
   On Saturday 04 November 2006 10:15, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 09:37:50AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 I surely hope I don't have to live with an X server that dies
 every couple of hours
 (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216149).
   
Still crashing the last RPM you tried? Please comment in
bugzilla.
  
   I've replied there with all the information requested.
 
  Ok. Then we know which update has been responsible for the regression
  you see on your system. Unfortunately the update contains huge
  changes (over about 3 months git master checkins), so it won't be
  easy to fix this issue. Therefore I can't make any promises to have
  this fixed until final release! And going back is no option ATM.
 
 Why is going back to a stable release not an option? And how do you 
 figure that a frequently bombing X server _is_ an option?
 
 
 And the beta1 font rendering is pretty poor. I have
 work-arounds for both, but they are not tenable in the long
 term since they both require running alternate versions of
 packages in place of those that are part of the distribution.
   
We have
   
1) legal (*)
2) technical
   
issues with/when enabling Subpixel hinting.
  
   How is it that you have (2) when I do not by the simple expedient
   of rebuilding the package with the proper configuration change?
 
  That it works for you does not mean, that it works for all
  fonts. Subpixel rendering is currently broken in freetype2, believe
  me. This issue is under investigation and the feature won't be
  enabled again until we have fixed it.
 
 Perhaps it would make more sense to adjust the schedule to the 
 requirements of the software included rather than the reverse?
 
 The fact is, in both these cases you switched to new versions of 
 software when those versions were inferior to the ones they replaced. 
 Why do this?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Randall R Schulz
Stefan,

On Saturday 04 November 2006 12:38, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
 Randall

 You don't know the details, why we switched to newer releases of
 X.Org and freetype2. And no, we will not discuss all decisions for
 software updates. Especially when there are legal issues.

So you want to enlist our help in beta testing (and I put considerable 
time into filing these reports and supplying the follow-up information 
requested) and then just ignore us when we have problems you don't care 
to fix?

Surely you can see that with an X server behaving as the current one 
does the system has no usable GUI at all. Am I just supposed to accept 
that?

And I do not see why legal issues are an excuse for not informing your 
users. This is open source software, and I think we deserve to know 
what's going on within the organization that is using that software for 
their own profit-making purposes. We also need to know your reasoning 
and plans so we can make our own plans. If you're not going to be able 
to supply what I need, then I'd just as soon cut my losses now and 
start working with a distribution that can.

I'd probably be more understanding if you'd give me something to go on, 
but from what I'm getting here, it sounds like you don't give a damn 
whether users and customers get something useful or not.

For the record, I've been paying for boxed versions of SuSE Linux for 
over five years now, including every single version released from 9.0 
onward and a few earlier ones. So far, I'd planned to buy the boxed 
10.2 release, as well. So I feel I've got a legitimate reason to press 
this issue.


 Stefan


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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 01:05:25PM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 On Saturday 04 November 2006 12:38, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
  Randall
 
  You don't know the details, why we switched to newer releases of
  X.Org and freetype2. And no, we will not discuss all decisions for
  software updates. Especially when there are legal issues.
 
 So you want to enlist our help in beta testing (and I put considerable 
 time into filing these reports and supplying the follow-up information 
 requested) and then just ignore us when we have problems you don't care 
 to fix?

Did I say this? I'm still interested in fixing this problem. I would
like to spend my time on this instead of discussing why we switched to
a newer Xserver verion closer to X.org 7.2 release rather than staying
with something undefined between 7.1 and 7.2, which won't be easy to
support you might imagine.

Best regards,
Stefan

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Lørdag 04 november 2006 18:18 skrev Christoph Thiel:
 openSUSE 10.2 is going to be released rather soon. With the current bug
 count of 910 open bugs filed for 10.2, we will certainly have to postpone
 fixing some of them to 10.3.

 Therefore, I'd like to ask YOU to help identify those bugs, that are
 currently hiding under the radar (ie. aren't red) and should be elevated.
 I'd propose posting the bug numbers in this thread + giving a short
 rationale. Please keep in mind that we should try to focus on the bugs that
 really affect a majority of the users!

 Maybe we should also help you guys clean up a little?

 Some of the 900+ bugs are mine, and some of those have either been resolved 
 already or are wontfixes, but their status hasn't been changed. I assume this 
 applies to other reports than mine too.

Feel free to close them.

 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204826
 I understand that the evil bastards at broadcom won't allow redistribution of 
 their stupid firmware. Might as well close it if no progress is going on.

 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215649
 Obviously a wontfix.

 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215269
 The localization will be in b2 or b2+ - the report is pretty irrelevant.

 3 down, 907 to go.

 I also have some for 10.1 that are either fixed or irrelvant, will close em 
 up 
 now.

Thanks a lot!
Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Andreas Hanke
Christoph Thiel schrieb:
 Therefore, I'd like to ask YOU to help identify those bugs, that are
 currently hiding under the radar (ie. aren't red) and should be elevated.
 I'd propose posting the bug numbers in this thread + giving a short
 rationale. Please keep in mind that we should try to focus on the bugs that
 really affect a majority of the users!

OK, here we go:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206954
There is still no audio player installed by default for GNOME users who
decide not to use the AddOn product.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216560
The author of cdrecord heavily dislikes it if other programs call
themselves cdrecord. Even if it's just an oversight and might break
translations, we should fix the wodim package description to avoid such
trouble.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=217660
This package, part of the GNOME platform, is completely broken and the
fix is easy. More and more packages from www.gnomefiles.org depend on
it, users should be able to install them and not be blocked by a
relatively stupid packaging bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=217326
This is happening to a lot of people and is really annoying. It makes
zmd unusable and happens even during first installations, so people
don't get their security update repos synced with zmd.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218032
The gtk2ification of gnucash was impatiently awaited by many people, and
now gnucash doesn't start up. There was a different bug where gnucash
didn't start up that was marked critical. This one should be critical,
too - because gnucash is installed by default.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=217875
Updating lua so extremely late was already wrong in the first place, but
now at least the consequences should be minimized. File conflicts are a
serious packaging bug, and users will see it if they try to install two
games that need different lua versions. The packages should be split as
suggested in comment 1 and the remaining conflicting parts marked as
conflicting.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216982
Don't know how to solve, but at least there should be an Xgl update for
10.1 that fixes the wrong %postun script so that at least those users
who install patches regularly can update properly.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=214884
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210922
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216880
There should not be any unresolved dependencies in the final product.
This looks very buggy.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216155
If the report is correct, it seems to break the build of Xine, which is
very bad because it's one of the first package many users are typically
installing.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215392
Gives the desktop an unfinished feeling and users are being told to use
the eject context menu because of possible data loss. They should not
run into an error message when doing that.

Andreas Hanke
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-04 Thread Peter Czanik

Hello,

Marc Collin wrote:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=202133
If it's not fixed, there is no X.org on Pegasos PPC. That would make
openSUSE on this platform quite useless... Bye,


novell support opensuse
don't think a lot of client use ppc
  
According to my download statistics (I ran a large seeder for beta1 DVD 
downloads), about 5% of downloads were PPC. I also maintain PPC version 
of Packman packages for 10.1, and the number of users seems to be 
constantly rising. 10.2 without X.org would break these nice 
tendencies... Bye,


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