[opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-06 Thread Michael Loeffler
Hi Shayon, 

cc'ing the marketing list
On Wednesday 06 October 2010 07:00:54 Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
> Hi Michael ,
> 
> My name is Shayon , you can say a former openSUSE contributor (Wiki and
> marketing). I lost contact and touch with openSUSE people and project
> due to my examinations and admission to University. But now I would like
> to again contribute to the project , I will not be having too much of
> time like before , but still I can manage I believe.
> 
> I am interested in contributing to openSUSE shop (as i read that in open
> jobs). So you already got a maintainer for that ? if not , I would like
> to volunteer for that . But before, I would also like to know what all
> tasks are to be performed ,  and a bit more detail on that .
> 
> Let me know what you feel on this ...
This is a great idea I more then appreciate that we re-animate the shop as it 
currently doesn't get the love it deserves. 
I need to find the access details for the shop so you guys can change/add 
stuff. 

Best
Michael
> 
> Looking forward to hear from you 
> 
> Cheers
> Shayon (Sj)

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[opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-06 Thread Shayon Mukherjee

On 10/06/2010 01:52 PM, Michael Loeffler wrote:


This is a great idea I more then appreciate that we re-animate the shop as it
currently doesn't get the love it deserves.
I need to find the access details for the shop so you guys can change/add
stuff.
   


Sounds good . I would like to know the process of the shop / maintain 
the shop in more detail . So if anyone can guide me through , it would 
be cool .



Best
Michael
   

Looking forward to hear from you 

Cheers
Shayon (Sj)
 


Thanks !

Cheers !
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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-06 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
So far so good, I believe including me, we already have 3 interested
geekos about this threat and the better is that each one is from
different areas, Europe, South America and meridional Asia.
Having such different cultures working together and focusing on same
objective results in several and different ideas that could be mixed and
implemented through the openSUSE "future" shop.



Em Qua, 2010-10-06 às 14:22 -0500, Shayon Mukherjee escreveu:
> On 10/06/2010 01:52 PM, Michael Loeffler wrote:
> >
> > This is a great idea I more then appreciate that we re-animate the shop as 
> > it
> > currently doesn't get the love it deserves.
> > I need to find the access details for the shop so you guys can change/add
> > stuff.
> >
> 
> Sounds good . I would like to know the process of the shop / maintain 
> the shop in more detail . So if anyone can guide me through , it would 
> be cool .
> 
> > Best
> > Michael
> >
> >> Looking forward to hear from you 
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Shayon (Sj)
> >>  
> 
> Thanks !
> 
> Cheers !
> Sj


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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-06 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
Well... 
As I as informed a few seconds ago, our geeko friend Shayon is not in
Asia anymore, moves to US but the main idea about still there .

"multicultural / geographically spread logic still works"
by our friend kknundy during irc conversation 

and for openSUSE Shop even works better I think.

best multicultural regards to all
CarlosRibeiro 

 Em Qua, 2010-10-06 às 17:28 -0300, Carlos Ribeiro escreveu:
> So far so good, I believe including me, we already have 3 interested
> geekos about this threat and the better is that each one is from
> different areas, Europe, South America and meridional Asia.
> Having such different cultures working together and focusing on same
> objective results in several and different ideas that could be mixed and
> implemented through the openSUSE "future" shop.
> 
> 
> 
> Em Qua, 2010-10-06 às 14:22 -0500, Shayon Mukherjee escreveu:
> > On 10/06/2010 01:52 PM, Michael Loeffler wrote:
> > >
> > > This is a great idea I more then appreciate that we re-animate the shop 
> > > as it
> > > currently doesn't get the love it deserves.
> > > I need to find the access details for the shop so you guys can change/add
> > > stuff.
> > >
> > 
> > Sounds good . I would like to know the process of the shop / maintain 
> > the shop in more detail . So if anyone can guide me through , it would 
> > be cool .
> > 
> > > Best
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >> Looking forward to hear from you 
> > >>
> > >> Cheers
> > >> Shayon (Sj)
> > >>  
> > 
> > Thanks !
> > 
> > Cheers !
> > Sj
> 
> 


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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-06 Thread Shayon Mukherjee

On 10/06/2010 04:08 PM, Carlos Ribeiro wrote:

Well...
As I as informed a few seconds ago, our geeko friend Shayon is not in
Asia anymore, moves to US but the main idea about still there .

"multicultural / geographically spread logic still works"
by our friend kknundy during irc conversation

and for openSUSE Shop even works better I think.

best multicultural regards to all
CarlosRibeiro

  Em Qua, 2010-10-06 às 17:28 -0300, Carlos Ribeiro escreveu:
   

So far so good, I believe including me, we already have 3 interested
geekos about this threat and the better is that each one is from
different areas, Europe, South America and meridional Asia.
Having such different cultures working together and focusing on same
objective results in several and different ideas that could be mixed and
implemented through the openSUSE "future" shop.
 




Hi all,

Well good to know that , heh ! . Yes I am in US now.
So where are we leading with this ?I mean Is a meeting required to jot 
things down and start with the task ? Or something else .?


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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-07 Thread Robert Lihm

On 06.10.2010, at 23:17, Shayon Mukherjee wrote:

> On 10/06/2010 04:08 PM, Carlos Ribeiro wrote:
>> Well...
>> As I as informed a few seconds ago, our geeko friend Shayon is not in
>> Asia anymore, moves to US but the main idea about still there .
>> 
>> "multicultural / geographically spread logic still works"
>> by our friend kknundy during irc conversation
>> 
>> and for openSUSE Shop even works better I think.
>> 
>> best multicultural regards to all
>> CarlosRibeiro
>> 
>>  Em Qua, 2010-10-06 às 17:28 -0300, Carlos Ribeiro escreveu:
>>   
>>> So far so good, I believe including me, we already have 3 interested
>>> geekos about this threat and the better is that each one is from
>>> different areas, Europe, South America and meridional Asia.
>>> Having such different cultures working together and focusing on same
>>> objective results in several and different ideas that could be mixed and
>>> implemented through the openSUSE "future" shop.
>>> 
>> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Well good to know that , heh ! . Yes I am in US now.
> So where are we leading with this ?I mean Is a meeting required to jot things 
> down and start with the task ? Or something else .?
> 

Hey all!

About the shop ... we use Spreadshirt [1] as provider and include the 
spreadshiert-shop via iframe into our website. The stuff running on shop.o.o is 
static html, so no voodoo :-)
I plan to move the stuff we have right now to the new Bento theme in the next 
time.

As far as I remember we have two shops at Spreadshirt. One for Americas and one 
for EU/Asia/Africa. But we don't cover all countries on this way because 
Spreadshirt is not shipping to e.g. most African countries. 

I have to look into the whole shop story again. Get the login data together and 
so on. 
If you have any questions just let me know, I will give my best to deliver good 
answers ;-)

Thank you and have a good time!

Robert


[1] http://www.spreadshirt.com/

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-07 Thread Manu Gupta
Hi
There are a few websites in India that can take care of the shop too

http://www.myntra.com/

They usually reply fast ie within a week.

Contacting them could be good.. they even do 20 - 30 tshirts :)

However, the only think we need to keep in mind is for India we cannot
keep the rate as high as in Europe/ US otherwise no one will buy them.
Standard t- shirt rates in India 3 - 6 Euros ie 3 is optimal and 6 is
worst case scenario again.

Theres one more site

http://www.24hoursloot.com/ that delivers only in India

you can see it here too...

However I am not sure whether they will allow to keep this up in our
website.. if we wish too, contacting them can help.. Also I am not
sure about the distribution of profits(if we do that).. as I have not
been involved in that kind of exchang

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-07 Thread Shayon Mukherjee

On 10/07/2010 09:39 AM, Manu Gupta wrote:

Hi
There are a few websites in India that can take care of the shop too

http://www.myntra.com/

They usually reply fast ie within a week.

Contacting them could be good.. they even do 20 - 30 tshirts :)

However, the only think we need to keep in mind is for India we cannot
keep the rate as high as in Europe/ US otherwise no one will buy them.
Standard t- shirt rates in India 3 - 6 Euros ie 3 is optimal and 6 is
worst case scenario again.

Theres one more site

http://www.24hoursloot.com/ that delivers only in India

you can see it here too...

However I am not sure whether they will allow to keep this up in our
website.. if we wish too, contacting them can help.. Also I am not
sure about the distribution of profits(if we do that).. as I have not
been involved in that kind of exchang

   

Hello all ,

Thanks Robert for the update. Ping anytime (one of us) in case you need 
some help with the tasks.


About the shops : My experience with Myntra was not good, the product 
described is not exactly (100%) what they send.It differs in respect to 
quality and design .Also I am not sure if country specific stores will 
benefit or feasible.I guess Robert can answer that.Else , sounds good to me.

*Spreadshirt +1

After the update is done (current ---> Bento). I would like to see some 
more designs in the store.So how we do that ? I have some options with me.



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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-07 Thread Michael Loeffler
Moni, 
On Thursday 07 October 2010 17:11:56 Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
> On 10/07/2010 09:39 AM, Manu Gupta wrote:
> > Hi
> > There are a few websites in India that can take care of the shop too
> > 
> > http://www.myntra.com/
> > 
> > They usually reply fast ie within a week.
> > 
> > Contacting them could be good.. they even do 20 - 30 tshirts :)
> > 
> > However, the only think we need to keep in mind is for India we cannot
> > keep the rate as high as in Europe/ US otherwise no one will buy them.
> > Standard t- shirt rates in India 3 - 6 Euros ie 3 is optimal and 6 is
> > worst case scenario again.
> > 
> > Theres one more site
> > 
> > http://www.24hoursloot.com/ that delivers only in India
> > 
> > you can see it here too...
> > 
> > However I am not sure whether they will allow to keep this up in our
> > website.. if we wish too, contacting them can help.. Also I am not
> > sure about the distribution of profits(if we do that).. as I have not
> > been involved in that kind of exchang
> 
> Hello all ,
> 
> Thanks Robert for the update. Ping anytime (one of us) in case you need
> some help with the tasks.
> 
> About the shops : My experience with Myntra was not good, the product
> described is not exactly (100%) what they send.It differs in respect to
> quality and design .Also I am not sure if country specific stores will
> benefit or feasible.I guess Robert can answer that.Else , sounds good to
> me. *Spreadshirt +1
I'd focus first on the existing spreadshirt shop and enhance here and wouldn't 
add any new shops for regions spreadshirt isn't shipping to. Each additional 
shop adds work. 

What we do currently with spreadshirt is that we've chosen some items, gave 
them an openSUSE design and set our price tag. 
Our price tag, what dose this mean ?
Spreadshirt sell their stuff at their price. Let's take a something which 
would cost 15 €/$ per unit. We add normally 1 or 2 €/$ and sell it then for 
more. This difference (1 or 2 €/$) then goes into our pockets. This "our 
pockets" is currently Novell as openSUSE isn't yet a legal entity. With an 
openSUSE Foundation we could redirect this income to the Foundation. And to 
give you a better picture - we're not talking about a high sales rate. So we 
sell with the two shops 30 items a month we have a good month.

Best
M


> 
> After the update is done (current ---> Bento). I would like to see some
> more designs in the store.So how we do that ? I have some options with me.

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-07 Thread Shayon Mukherjee

On 10/07/2010 11:03 AM, Michael Loeffler wrote:


Hello all ,

Thanks Robert for the update. Ping anytime (one of us) in case you need
some help with the tasks.

About the shops : My experience with Myntra was not good, the product
described is not exactly (100%) what they send.It differs in respect to
quality and design .Also I am not sure if country specific stores will
benefit or feasible.I guess Robert can answer that.Else , sounds good to
me. *Spreadshirt +1
 

I'd focus first on the existing spreadshirt shop and enhance here and wouldn't
add any new shops for regions spreadshirt isn't shipping to. Each additional
shop adds work.
   


+1 . And how do you plan to enhance ? I feel that , we should 
upload/create few more designs . In other words , give users/public more 
options to choose from . I find the current state is really limited . 
Also we can add lot many other stuffs like Mugs , stickers , etc .


In designs (for Sweatshirts and T-shirts)- we already have some good 
logo's . Things which we actually require are some real good 
slogans.Which would make the users feel good , wearing them- that said 
it should make them feel geeky and show the openSUSE (Gecko) love.


Something like:  Geek by nature , Linux by choice - Re-phrase -->> Geek 
by nature , openSUSE by choice.

The above is just an example :) .

Also we need to investigate more on the taste of the openSUSE lovers. I 
mean how or what actually they want to show their love towards openSUSE 
(through our shop-this , we need to figure out) . I hope I made myself 
clear ...



What we do currently with spreadshirt is that we've chosen some items, gave
them an openSUSE design and set our price tag.
Our price tag, what dose this mean ?
Spreadshirt sell their stuff at their price. Let's take a something which
would cost 15 €/$ per unit. We add normally 1 or 2 €/$ and sell it then for
more. This difference (1 or 2 €/$) then goes into our pockets. This "our
pockets" is currently Novell as openSUSE isn't yet a legal entity. With an
openSUSE Foundation we could redirect this income to the Foundation. And to
give you a better picture - we're not talking about a high sales rate. So we
sell with the two shops 30 items a month we have a good month.

   


Nice! And more options make ---> MORE SALE ;)

Any other ideas are welcome .. :)

Best
M


Cheers !
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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-08 Thread Michael Loeffler
Moin, 
On Friday 08 October 2010 02:41:06 Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
> On 10/07/2010 11:03 AM, Michael Loeffler wrote:
> >> Hello all ,
> >> 
> >> Thanks Robert for the update. Ping anytime (one of us) in case you need
> >> some help with the tasks.
> >> 
> >> About the shops : My experience with Myntra was not good, the product
> >> described is not exactly (100%) what they send.It differs in respect to
> >> quality and design .Also I am not sure if country specific stores will
> >> benefit or feasible.I guess Robert can answer that.Else , sounds good to
> >> me. *Spreadshirt +1
> > 
> > I'd focus first on the existing spreadshirt shop and enhance here and
> > wouldn't add any new shops for regions spreadshirt isn't shipping to.
> > Each additional shop adds work.
> 
> +1 . And how do you plan to enhance ? I feel that , we should
> upload/create few more designs . In other words , give users/public more
> options to choose from . I find the current state is really limited .
> Also we can add lot many other stuffs like Mugs , stickers , etc .
Fully agreed.
> 
> In designs (for Sweatshirts and T-shirts)- we already have some good
> logo's . Things which we actually require are some real good
> slogans.Which would make the users feel good , wearing them- that said
> it should make them feel geeky and show the openSUSE (Gecko) love.

> 
> Something like:  Geek by nature , Linux by choice - Re-phrase -->> Geek
> by nature , openSUSE by choice.
> The above is just an example :) .
In 2007 we had a "slogan" contest. The winner was:

openSUSE - Linux for open minds

Why not using that ?

And this was the collection of slogans we received: 
http://old-en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Slogan

Best
Michael 
> 
> Also we need to investigate more on the taste of the openSUSE lovers. I
> mean how or what actually they want to show their love towards openSUSE
> (through our shop-this , we need to figure out) . I hope I made myself
> clear ...
> 
> > What we do currently with spreadshirt is that we've chosen some items,
> > gave them an openSUSE design and set our price tag.
> > Our price tag, what dose this mean ?
> > Spreadshirt sell their stuff at their price. Let's take a something which
> > would cost 15 €/$ per unit. We add normally 1 or 2 €/$ and sell it then
> > for more. This difference (1 or 2 €/$) then goes into our pockets. This
> > "our pockets" is currently Novell as openSUSE isn't yet a legal entity.
> > With an openSUSE Foundation we could redirect this income to the
> > Foundation. And to give you a better picture - we're not talking about a
> > high sales rate. So we sell with the two shops 30 items a month we have
> > a good month.
> 
> Nice! And more options make ---> MORE SALE ;)
> 
> Any other ideas are welcome .. :)
> 
> > Best
> > M
> 
> Cheers !
> Sj

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-08 Thread Robert Lihm

On 08.10.2010, at 10:02, Michael Loeffler wrote:

> Moin, 
> On Friday 08 October 2010 02:41:06 Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
>> On 10/07/2010 11:03 AM, Michael Loeffler wrote:
 Hello all ,
 
 Thanks Robert for the update. Ping anytime (one of us) in case you need
 some help with the tasks.
 
 About the shops : My experience with Myntra was not good, the product
 described is not exactly (100%) what they send.It differs in respect to
 quality and design .Also I am not sure if country specific stores will
 benefit or feasible.I guess Robert can answer that.Else , sounds good to
 me. *Spreadshirt +1
>>> 
>>> I'd focus first on the existing spreadshirt shop and enhance here and
>>> wouldn't add any new shops for regions spreadshirt isn't shipping to.
>>> Each additional shop adds work.
>> 
>> +1 . And how do you plan to enhance ? I feel that , we should
>> upload/create few more designs . In other words , give users/public more
>> options to choose from . I find the current state is really limited .
>> Also we can add lot many other stuffs like Mugs , stickers , etc .
> Fully agreed.

+1

>> 
>> In designs (for Sweatshirts and T-shirts)- we already have some good
>> logo's . Things which we actually require are some real good
>> slogans.Which would make the users feel good , wearing them- that said
>> it should make them feel geeky and show the openSUSE (Gecko) love.
> 
>> 
>> Something like:  Geek by nature , Linux by choice - Re-phrase -->> Geek
>> by nature , openSUSE by choice.
>> The above is just an example :) .
> In 2007 we had a "slogan" contest. The winner was:
> 
> openSUSE - Linux for open minds
> 
> Why not using that ?
> 
> And this was the collection of slogans we received: 
> http://old-en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Slogan
> 


What about the "/me ha fun!" under the openSUSE logo? ;-)

How ever, one thing is, that we have just a basic account at Spreadshirt. This 
give us some limitations like we can upload only -not sure- 3 vector images. We 
can upload as many bitmap-images as we want, but this can be printed only on 
white background.
@michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many 
advantages like localised shops and so on.

Next thing is, that we need to summarise spreadhirts rules and our brand guide 
to a how to. So that people in the community can contribute artwork which work.

So far :-)

Robert


> Best
> Michael 
>> 
>> Also we need to investigate more on the taste of the openSUSE lovers. I
>> mean how or what actually they want to show their love towards openSUSE
>> (through our shop-this , we need to figure out) . I hope I made myself
>> clear ...
>> 
>>> What we do currently with spreadshirt is that we've chosen some items,
>>> gave them an openSUSE design and set our price tag.
>>> Our price tag, what dose this mean ?
>>> Spreadshirt sell their stuff at their price. Let's take a something which
>>> would cost 15 €/$ per unit. We add normally 1 or 2 €/$ and sell it then
>>> for more. This difference (1 or 2 €/$) then goes into our pockets. This
>>> "our pockets" is currently Novell as openSUSE isn't yet a legal entity.
>>> With an openSUSE Foundation we could redirect this income to the
>>> Foundation. And to give you a better picture - we're not talking about a
>>> high sales rate. So we sell with the two shops 30 items a month we have
>>> a good month.
>> 
>> Nice! And more options make ---> MORE SALE ;)
>> 
>> Any other ideas are welcome .. :)
>> 
>>> Best
>>> M
>> 
>> Cheers !
>> Sj
> 
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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-08 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:
> @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many
> advantages like localised shops and so on.
As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than three good 
SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to start with just a few 
things, then do an announcement on news.opensuse.org about the re-vitalized 
shop and see if people like it. If they do order things, the number of SVG's 
you can upload will be increased, afaik, so we can grow organically.

Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely upgrade 
to pro.


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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-08 Thread S.Kemter
Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
> On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:
> > @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many
> > advantages like localised shops and so on.
> 
> As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than three
> good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to start with
> just a few things, then do an announcement on news.opensuse.org about the
> re-vitalized shop and see if people like it. If they do order things, the
> number of SVG's you can upload will be increased, afaik, so we can grow
> organically.

sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because for 
upload ur own motives u need a professional account on spreadshirt. Then u can 
upload every month 20 motives. 

)
> 
> Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely
> upgrade to pro.

So there is no choice on the end as get an proffessional account, but that 
costs first money ;)

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-08 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Friday 08 October 2010 19:14:23 S.Kemter wrote:
> Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
> > On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:
> > > @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many
> > > advantages like localised shops and so on.
> > 
> > As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than three
> > good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to start with
> > just a few things, then do an announcement on news.opensuse.org about the
> > re-vitalized shop and see if people like it. If they do order things, the
> > number of SVG's you can upload will be increased, afaik, so we can grow
> > organically.
> 
> sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because for
> upload ur own motives u need a professional account on spreadshirt. Then u
> can upload every month 20 motives.

But why would you? Can't we first put up a few good designs then see if ppl 
like it or not?

> 
> > Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely
> > upgrade to pro.
> 
> So there is no choice on the end as get an proffessional account, but that
> costs first money ;)
> 
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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-12 Thread Robert Lihm

On 08.10.2010, at 19:14, S.Kemter wrote:

> Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
>> On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:
>>> @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many
>>> advantages like localised shops and so on.
>> 
>> As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than three
>> good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to start with
>> just a few things, then do an announcement on news.opensuse.org about the
>> re-vitalized shop and see if people like it. If they do order things, the
>> number of SVG's you can upload will be increased, afaik, so we can grow
>> organically.
> 
> sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because for 
> upload ur own motives u need a professional account on spreadshirt. Then u 
> can 
> upload every month 20 motives. 
> 
> )

We already started with view designs ;-) And are you sure with the 20 templates?

>> 
>> Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely
>> upgrade to pro.
> 
> So there is no choice on the end as get an proffessional account, but that 
> costs first money ;)
> 

+1 I think finally we will need a pro-account.

Robert

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-12 Thread Robert Lihm

On 08.10.2010, at 20:23, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

> On Friday 08 October 2010 19:14:23 S.Kemter wrote:
>> Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
>>> On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:
 @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many
 advantages like localised shops and so on.
>>> 
>>> As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than three
>>> good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to start with
>>> just a few things, then do an announcement on news.opensuse.org about the
>>> re-vitalized shop and see if people like it. If they do order things, the
>>> number of SVG's you can upload will be increased, afaik, so we can grow
>>> organically.
>> 
>> sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because for
>> upload ur own motives u need a professional account on spreadshirt. Then u
>> can upload every month 20 motives.
> 
> But why would you? Can't we first put up a few good designs then see if ppl 
> like it or not?
> 

+1

But isn't our current revenue hight enough to refinance the pro-acount?

R

>> 
>>> Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely
>>> upgrade to pro.
>> 
>> So there is no choice on the end as get an proffessional account, but that
>> costs first money ;)
>> 
>> br gnokii

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-12 Thread Michael Loeffler
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:37:52 Robert Lihm wrote:
> On 08.10.2010, at 20:23, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > On Friday 08 October 2010 19:14:23 S.Kemter wrote:
> >> Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
> >>> On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:
>  @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many
>  advantages like localised shops and so on.
> >>> 
> >>> As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than
> >>> three good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to
> >>> start with just a few things, then do an announcement on
> >>> news.opensuse.org about the re-vitalized shop and see if people like
> >>> it. If they do order things, the number of SVG's you can upload will
> >>> be increased, afaik, so we can grow organically.
> >> 
> >> sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because
> >> for upload ur own motives u need a professional account on spreadshirt.
> >> Then u can upload every month 20 motives.
> > 
> > But why would you? Can't we first put up a few good designs then see if
> > ppl like it or not?
> 
> +1
> 
> But isn't our current revenue hight enough to refinance the pro-acount?
Yes, it is high enough. 
M
> 
> R
> 
> >>> Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely
> >>> upgrade to pro.
> >> 
> >> So there is no choice on the end as get an proffessional account, but
> >> that costs first money ;)
> >> 
> >> br gnokii
> 
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> 
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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-12 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:36:52 Robert Lihm wrote:
> On 08.10.2010, at 19:14, S.Kemter wrote:
> > Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
> >> On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:
> >>> @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many
> >>> advantages like localised shops and so on.
> >> 
> >> As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than three
> >> good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to start with
> >> just a few things, then do an announcement on news.opensuse.org about
> >> the re-vitalized shop and see if people like it. If they do order
> >> things, the number of SVG's you can upload will be increased, afaik, so
> >> we can grow organically.
> > 
> > sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because
> > for upload ur own motives u need a professional account on spreadshirt.
> > Then u can upload every month 20 motives.
> > 
> > )
> 
> We already started with view designs ;-) And are you sure with the 20
> templates?

Nice, can I see em somewhere?

> >> Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely
> >> upgrade to pro.
> > 
> > So there is no choice on the end as get an proffessional account, but
> > that costs first money ;)
> 
> +1 I think finally we will need a pro-account.
> 
> Robert
> 
> > br gnokii
> 
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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-12 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:59:35 Michael Loeffler wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:37:52 Robert Lihm wrote:
> > On 08.10.2010, at 20:23, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > > On Friday 08 October 2010 19:14:23 S.Kemter wrote:
> > >> Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
> > >>> On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:
> >  @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring
> >  many advantages like localised shops and so on.
> > >>> 
> > >>> As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than
> > >>> three good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to
> > >>> start with just a few things, then do an announcement on
> > >>> news.opensuse.org about the re-vitalized shop and see if people like
> > >>> it. If they do order things, the number of SVG's you can upload will
> > >>> be increased, afaik, so we can grow organically.
> > >> 
> > >> sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because
> > >> for upload ur own motives u need a professional account on
> > >> spreadshirt. Then u can upload every month 20 motives.
> > > 
> > > But why would you? Can't we first put up a few good designs then see if
> > > ppl like it or not?
> > 
> > +1
> > 
> > But isn't our current revenue hight enough to refinance the pro-acount?
> 
> Yes, it is high enough.
> M

Fine, let's do it then.

> > R
> > 
> > >>> Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely
> > >>> upgrade to pro.
> > >> 
> > >> So there is no choice on the end as get an proffessional account, but
> > >> that costs first money ;)
> > >> 
> > >> br gnokii
> > 
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> > Tel: +49-911-74053-0  - rl...@suse.de
> > 
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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-12 Thread Robert Lihm

On 12.10.2010, at 13:33, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

> On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:36:52 Robert Lihm wrote:
>> On 08.10.2010, at 19:14, S.Kemter wrote:
>>> Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
 On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:
> @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many
> advantages like localised shops and so on.
 
 As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than three
 good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to start with
 just a few things, then do an announcement on news.opensuse.org about
 the re-vitalized shop and see if people like it. If they do order
 things, the number of SVG's you can upload will be increased, afaik, so
 we can grow organically.
>>> 
>>> sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because
>>> for upload ur own motives u need a professional account on spreadshirt.
>>> Then u can upload every month 20 motives.
>>> 
>>> )
>> 
>> We already started with view designs ;-) And are you sure with the 20
>> templates?
> 
> Nice, can I see em somewhere?

I maenad the stuff which is already in the shop ... :-/ ... which is not so 
nice :-)

> 
 Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely
 upgrade to pro.
>>> 
>>> So there is no choice on the end as get an proffessional account, but
>>> that costs first money ;)
>> 
>> +1 I think finally we will need a pro-account.
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
>>> br gnokii
>> 
>> 

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-12 Thread Robert Lihm

On 12.10.2010, at 13:33, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

> On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:59:35 Michael Loeffler wrote:
>> On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:37:52 Robert Lihm wrote:
>>> On 08.10.2010, at 20:23, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
 On Friday 08 October 2010 19:14:23 S.Kemter wrote:
> Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
>> On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:
>>> @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring
>>> many advantages like localised shops and so on.
>> 
>> As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than
>> three good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to
>> start with just a few things, then do an announcement on
>> news.opensuse.org about the re-vitalized shop and see if people like
>> it. If they do order things, the number of SVG's you can upload will
>> be increased, afaik, so we can grow organically.
> 
> sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because
> for upload ur own motives u need a professional account on
> spreadshirt. Then u can upload every month 20 motives.
 
 But why would you? Can't we first put up a few good designs then see if
 ppl like it or not?
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> But isn't our current revenue hight enough to refinance the pro-acount?
>> 
>> Yes, it is high enough.
>> M
> 
> Fine, let's do it then.
> 

+1

Rob

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-12 Thread S.Kemter
Am Dienstag 12 Oktober 2010, 11:36:52 schrieben Sie:
> On 08.10.2010, at 19:14, S.Kemter wrote:
> > Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
> >> On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:
> >>> @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many
> >>> advantages like localised shops and so on.
> >> 
> >> As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than three
> >> good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to start with
> >> just a few things, then do an announcement on news.opensuse.org about
> >> the re-vitalized shop and see if people like it. If they do order
> >> things, the number of SVG's you can upload will be increased, afaik, so
> >> we can grow organically.
> > 
> > sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because
> > for upload ur own motives u need a professional account on spreadshirt.
> > Then u can upload every month 20 motives.
> > 
> > )
> 
> We already started with view designs ;-) And are you sure with the 20
> templates?

yes I am sure after some said to me I should make shirts from some of my 
designs I looked for it. 

There isnt the problem to do some, have some cool motifes, u know kawaii 
geeko, openSUSE super hero, openSUSE+GNOME=Love and so on.
> 
> >> Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely
> >> upgrade to pro.
> > 
> > So there is no choice on the end as get an proffessional account, but
> > that costs first money ;)
> 
> +1 I think finally we will need a pro-account.
> 
> Robert
> 
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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-19 Thread Shayon Mukherjee
 Is anybody there who can help with openSUSE guidelines for the shop ? 
Or should I ask later , as I see most them busy with the conference ...


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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-10-27 Thread Jos Poortvliet
For those who DO have some time now - see below :D

On 2010-10-19 Shayon wrote:
>   Is anybody there who can help with openSUSE guidelines for the shop ?
> Or should I ask later , as I see most them busy with the conference ...
> 
> Cheers
> Sj




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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-11-01 Thread Kostas Koudaras
As you might know I was out on the mountains for 8 days without
electricity  so excuse my late response,can you explain me a little
more how can someone help?



2010/10/27 Jos Poortvliet :
> For those who DO have some time now - see below :D
>
> On 2010-10-19 Shayon wrote:
>>   Is anybody there who can help with openSUSE guidelines for the shop ?
>> Or should I ask later , as I see most them busy with the conference ...
>>
>> Cheers
>> Sj
>
>
>



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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-11-26 Thread Michael Loeffler
Moin, 
On Monday 01 November 2010 21:46:59 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
> As you might know I was out on the mountains for 8 days without
> electricity  so excuse my late response,can you explain me a little
> more how can someone help?
my idea is to give more people access to shop.opensuse.org so the shop gets 
more attractive and getting an professional account (or how ever this thing is 
named). We can pay the cost for it directly from the income of the shop. 

As I'm leaving today there is one person less with access to the shop. But 
Robert has access too and in the near future I hope some of you guys as well. 

Best
Michael 
> 
> 2010/10/27 Jos Poortvliet :
> > For those who DO have some time now - see below :D
> > 
> > On 2010-10-19 Shayon wrote:
> >>   Is anybody there who can help with openSUSE guidelines for the shop ?
> >> Or should I ask later , as I see most them busy with the conference ...
> >> 
> >> Cheers
> >> Sj

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-12-08 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Friday 26 November 2010 11:12:38 Michael Loeffler wrote:
> Moin,
> 
> On Monday 01 November 2010 21:46:59 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
> > As you might know I was out on the mountains for 8 days without
> > electricity  so excuse my late response,can you explain me a little
> > more how can someone help?
> 
> my idea is to give more people access to shop.opensuse.org so the shop gets
> more attractive and getting an professional account (or how ever this thing
> is named). We can pay the cost for it directly from the income of the
> shop.
> 
> As I'm leaving today there is one person less with access to the shop. But
> Robert has access too and in the near future I hope some of you guys as
> well.
> 
> Best
> Michael
> 
> > 2010/10/27 Jos Poortvliet :
> > > For those who DO have some time now - see below :D
> > > 
> > > On 2010-10-19 Shayon wrote:
> > >>   Is anybody there who can help with openSUSE guidelines for the shop
> > >>   ?
> > >> 
> > >> Or should I ask later , as I see most them busy with the conference
> > >> ...
> > >> 
> > >> Cheers
> > >> Sj

The shop came up again, robert, manu, can you guys help t0xa with getting 
involved with the shop?


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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer

2010-12-10 Thread Manu Gupta
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 02:54 +0100, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> On Friday 26 November 2010 11:12:38 Michael Loeffler wrote:
> > Moin,
> > 
> > On Monday 01 November 2010 21:46:59 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
> > > As you might know I was out on the mountains for 8 days without
> > > electricity  so excuse my late response,can you explain me a little
> > > more how can someone help?
> > 
> > my idea is to give more people access to shop.opensuse.org so the shop gets
> > more attractive and getting an professional account (or how ever this thing
> > is named). We can pay the cost for it directly from the income of the
> > shop.
> > 
> > As I'm leaving today there is one person less with access to the shop. But
> > Robert has access too and in the near future I hope some of you guys as
> > well.
> > 
> > Best
> > Michael
> > 
> > > 2010/10/27 Jos Poortvliet :
> > > > For those who DO have some time now - see below :D
> > > > 
> > > > On 2010-10-19 Shayon wrote:
> > > >>   Is anybody there who can help with openSUSE guidelines for the shop
> > > >>   ?
> > > >> 
> > > >> Or should I ask later , as I see most them busy with the conference
> > > >> ...
> > > >> 
> > > >> Cheers
> > > >> Sj
> 
> The shop came up again, robert, manu, can you guys help t0xa with getting 
> involved with the shop?

I am not really involved with the shop but SJ did a lot of nice work.
Probably Robert and Sj are the persons who know the best



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