OTN service

2002-05-02 Thread Ray Stell


I mentioned that the 32 bit solaris gz file for 8.1.7
that I downloaded from otn provided one disk image on the order
of 900MB.  What technology do I need to move to in order
to burn this onto plastic?  Are we talking dvd burner here? 

I asked oracle what the intent was with this, the answer is 
a classic:

The OTN Service Network is specifically designed for customers who need
support on software downloaded via OTN. The OTN Service Network offers
pay-per-incident support provided by Oracle certified professionals.
Support is available on Oracle Database Server, Oracle9I Application
Server and Oracle Tools products. Pricing is $50, $75 or $100 based on
the complexity of the issue.

By intent, I ment what technology was targeted.  Anybody know? 
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RE: pl/sql is INTERPRETED?

2002-05-02 Thread Ramon E. Estevez

I can give you a hand in that :-)

Or If you want to write it in spanish.

Ramon

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Independent contractors in Albany NY who know Cobol are getting $120/hour
because all of the original employees who know Cobol are retiring.  And the
legacy systems are going to be around for quite awhile.


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You THINK that you are kidding.
I submit to you that in a few years there will be a great demand for Cobol
programmers as the current old crop goes into retirement
and all the newbe's are learning Java and perl.

Start writing those books. They will be  needed by the time that you finish
them.

Just my 2$ (inflation, you know)

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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> Whatever happend to COBOL anyway??  That was so easy to code, along with
> Fortran, BASIC, Pascal was a lot of fun.  What's wrong with storing your
> data in VSAM files???
>
> I think I hear my pasture calling me...35, and retired...that would be
nice.
> I can write COBOL books to fund my retirement...
>

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Re: Changing SQL statements inside the database

2002-05-02 Thread Tim Gorman

The Virtual Private Database (VPD) facility (a.k.a. "fine-grain" or
"row-level" security) can be used to alter SQL on the server, regardless of
origin.  I implemented an access control list (ACL) feature for a system two
years ago, complete with recursion inside PL/SQL for navigating the
(implied) double-dimensioned linked-lists that typical ACL functionality
requires.

Navigating linked-lists is naturally something that you wouldn't want to
code in a SQL statement, but VPDs did it quite nicely by allowing me to run
a custom PL/SQL packaged function during the PARSE phase of a SQL statement.
The packaged function is supposed to return a string which is tacked onto
the SQL statement, so you cannot "modify" existing text in the SQL, but you
can add additional SQL text to the WHERE clause, including subqueries.
There are other little useful twists and tricks and gotchas involved, but
that's the general idea...

But, be *very* careful!  You can just imagine how badly you can harm
performance and accessibility through casual use of this feature...  :-)

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> Hello list
>
> This time I need your help on how to implement a weird idea.
> We have a third party application that fire wasteful SQL's to the
database.
> (Remember the discussion on using x$dual Vs dual some days ago?)
>
> I am wondering: Is there a way to change the SQL that the user send?
>
> In ADABAS on the mainframe I can activate a user exit that gets the
command
> that
> the user send to the database and change it (Not only can, but we are
doing
> it!).
>
> Is there a way to do the same with SQL in Oracle?
>
> In the server (preferably) or in the client.
>
> Thanks
>
> Yechiel Adar
> Mehish
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Re: datatypes

2002-05-02 Thread Rick_Cale


Hi,

One way is to do the following:

1. Export the table for backup purposes
2. Create a temp table containing the primary key and column to be altered.
3. update original_table set number_column=null;
4. alter original_table  MODIFY (column(3,2));
5. Update column from temp table.  (Assuming all the data in temp table
will go in number(3,2) format.


Rick


   

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Hi,

i have a column set to number(3). However this needs
to be changed to number (3,2). But i cannot do a
straight alter table as there is data in the column.

how can i get round this?

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9i new features update

2002-05-02 Thread JOE TESTA



I finally got the website updated.  For those of you who lost, never 
saw, would like to review, all of the past editions of the 9i new features 
series is at
 
http://www.oracle-dba.com
 
click on the 9i link.
 
joe
 


Can't Connect to DB

2002-05-02 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ



Oracle 9i on XP Prof.  
DB is on a single PC.
 
When I try to do a DB connection I get this error.  
Yesterday I created a second DB on my PC and was able to connect successfully to 
either of them.  This morning I rebooted my PC and now I cannot 
connect.  
 
Any idea what the problem is?
 
TIA,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
 
-
 
ORA-12541: TNS:no listener
Details:Building Oracle HOMES List  HOME Name 
OraHome90 added to list.  Found multiple homes, searching each HOMEx 
for valid PATH  searching in SOFTWARE\ORACLE\HOME0  
Oracle_Home found in SOFTWARE\ORACLE\HOME0 IS in system path!  
oci.dll found  


RE: ERD generation tool

2002-05-02 Thread Ron Rogers

Moving the columns should not be a problem for anyone, heck you should
be able to alphabetize them and everything be okay. If you take the
output and use it to create tables that should not cause a problem
except for the developer that codes for columns to appear in a specific
order.
Ron
ROR mª¿ªm

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No, no Paul is stating it as a bug.  This has happend to me, where on
occasion ERwin decides to move columns around for no reason when it
creates
the table in the database.  I have looked at every single option and I
can't
find anything, so I am assuming it's a bug.

But if anyone knows otherwise...please do share...

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RE: pl/sql is INTERPRETED?

2002-05-02 Thread Khedr, Waleed

 May be it's time to switch back to Cobol!
 I've done it for four years (Cobol & F77 with Codasyl).

 Regards,

 Waleed

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Independent contractors in Albany NY who know Cobol are getting
$120/hour
because all of the original employees who know Cobol are retiring.  And
the
legacy systems are going to be around for quite awhile.


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You THINK that you are kidding.
I submit to you that in a few years there will be a great demand for
Cobol
programmers as the current old crop goes into retirement
and all the newbe's are learning Java and perl.

Start writing those books. They will be  needed by the time that you
finish
them.

Just my 2$ (inflation, you know)

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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> Whatever happend to COBOL anyway??  That was so easy to code, along
with
> Fortran, BASIC, Pascal was a lot of fun.  What's wrong with storing
your
> data in VSAM files???
>
> I think I hear my pasture calling me...35, and retired...that would be
nice.
> I can write COBOL books to fund my retirement...
>

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RE: Correcting user sql inside the database

2002-05-02 Thread johanna . doran

I did something way back wehn using PIPES to catch a runaway third party encapsulated 
pl sql code.

I dont remember the specifics but you can look at the docs for it.

Hannah

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> Hello list
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> This time I need your help on how to implement a weird idea.
> We have a third party application that fire wasteful SQL's to the database.
> (Remember the discussion on using x$dual Vs dual some days ago?)
> 
> I am wondering: Is there a way to change the SQL that the user send?
> 
> In ADABAS on the mainframe I can activate a user exit that gets the command
> that
> the user send to the database and change it (Not only can, but we are doing
> it!).
> 
> Is there a way to do the same with SQL in Oracle?
> 
> In the server (preferably) or in the client.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Yechiel Adar
> Mehish
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Re: Correcting user sql inside the database

2002-05-02 Thread Anjo Kolk

Outlines is one way, but there is another sneaky way, but that involves a
lot of programming depending on what you want to change.
And it also depends on where the client runs and how it is linked 

Anjo.

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> Hello list
>
> This time I need your help on how to implement a weird idea.
> We have a third party application that fire wasteful SQL's to the
database.
> (Remember the discussion on using x$dual Vs dual some days ago?)
>
> I am wondering: Is there a way to change the SQL that the user send?
>
> In ADABAS on the mainframe I can activate a user exit that gets the
command
> that
> the user send to the database and change it (Not only can, but we are
doing
> it!).
>
> Is there a way to do the same with SQL in Oracle?
>
> In the server (preferably) or in the client.
>
> Thanks
>
> Yechiel Adar
> Mehish
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RE: datatypes

2002-05-02 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Imran,

what I do is the following:


create table temp_table as select primary_key_column, number_column from
table_to_be_changed;

update table_to_be_changed
set number_column=null;

alter table_to_be_changed modify(number_column(3,2));

declare
 cursor c1 is
  select primary_key_column, number_column
from temp_table;
begin
 
for c1_rec in c1 loop
  update table_to_be_changed
 set numebr_column = c1_rec.number_column
where primary_key_column = c1_rec.primary_key_column;
end loop;

commit;

end;
/

Hope this helps.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Perhaps:
Export, truncate table, alter table, import
or
Create  as select * from ,
truncate table ,
alter table,
insert from ,
drop 




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Hi,

i have a column set to number(3). However this needs
to be changed to number (3,2). But i cannot do a
straight alter table as there is data in the column.

how can i get round this?

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Re: How to know if another database is running on the same machine?

2002-05-02 Thread Don Granaman

v$database will always show one and only one database - the database to
which the instance you are running the query against is attached.  As for
how to find out on Windows, I'll leave that to someone who knows Windows
better than I.

Don Granaman
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> Hi!
>
> On my win2k server I configured two databases one for data (MYData) and
the
> other for EM Repository OEMREP. The tools do not seem to be able to
connect
> to the database having data. The error reported is that TNS couldn't
> identify SID.
>
> The v$database shows only the OEMREP database (Could be because the other
> one is not accessible or perhaps the view shows the one that is active).
>
> How do I know whether the other database is there or not and how to make
it
> accessible?
>
> TIA!
>
> Aleem
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datatypes

2002-05-02 Thread Imran Ashraf

Hi,

i have a column set to number(3). However this needs
to be changed to number (3,2). But i cannot do a
straight alter table as there is data in the column.

how can i get round this?

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Re: migration MS SQL 6.5 to ORACLE 8i

2002-05-02 Thread Joe Raube

See otn.oracle.com for Oracle Migration Workbench.

-Joe

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Re: datatypes

2002-05-02 Thread rchalton


Perhaps:
Export, truncate table, alter table, import
or
Create  as select * from ,
truncate table ,
alter table,
insert from ,
drop 




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Hi,

i have a column set to number(3). However this needs
to be changed to number (3,2). But i cannot do a
straight alter table as there is data in the column.

how can i get round this?

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Changing SQL statements inside the database

2002-05-02 Thread Yechiel Adar

Hello list

This time I need your help on how to implement a weird idea.
We have a third party application that fire wasteful SQL's to the database.
(Remember the discussion on using x$dual Vs dual some days ago?)

I am wondering: Is there a way to change the SQL that the user send?

In ADABAS on the mainframe I can activate a user exit that gets the command
that
the user send to the database and change it (Not only can, but we are doing
it!).

Is there a way to do the same with SQL in Oracle?

In the server (preferably) or in the client.

Thanks

Yechiel Adar
Mehish

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RE: pl/sql is INTERPRETED?

2002-05-02 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Independent contractors in Albany NY who know Cobol are getting $120/hour
because all of the original employees who know Cobol are retiring.  And the
legacy systems are going to be around for quite awhile.


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You THINK that you are kidding.
I submit to you that in a few years there will be a great demand for Cobol
programmers as the current old crop goes into retirement
and all the newbe's are learning Java and perl.

Start writing those books. They will be  needed by the time that you finish
them.

Just my 2$ (inflation, you know)

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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> Whatever happend to COBOL anyway??  That was so easy to code, along with
> Fortran, BASIC, Pascal was a lot of fun.  What's wrong with storing your
> data in VSAM files???
>
> I think I hear my pasture calling me...35, and retired...that would be
nice.
> I can write COBOL books to fund my retirement...
>

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Re: How to know if another database is running on the same machine?

2002-05-02 Thread Ora NT DBA

Hi Dmit,

When you connect to a database and look at v$database,  it will only 
show you
information about the current database.  

On win2k you should check the following:
1.  go to the services panel and make sure you have services created and
started for each database
2. from the dos prompt check the listener to make sure it is listening 
for each
of these databases
3.  assuming you are using tnsnames file check to make sure each of these
databases are in the tnsnames file
4. from the dos prompt see if you can connect to each of these databases
using the oracle_sid
set oracle_sid=oemrep
sqlplus user/password
select * from v$database;
exit

set oracle_sid=mydata
sqlplus user/password
select * from v$database;
exit

If  all of the above are ok, you should be able to connect
using the listener as well.

Good luck,
John

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>On my win2k server I configured two databases one for data (MYData) and the
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>identify SID.
>
>The v$database shows only the OEMREP database (Could be because the other
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RE: ITS THE PHB, STOOOOPID (was: anti-virus spam)

2002-05-02 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

what - you changing careers - trying out for Denis Miller's show?

nice rant.

you win the award for the most number of '*' words in an essay.

take a chill-pill, babe.  :)

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It is kind of amazing how irrelevant and lacking in substance this 
discussion is.

It has been explained that the original offender's email server was 
configured in *stupid mode* because of damagement, not because of 
the techies.

fyi: PHB = pointed headed boss

( http://kltp.kldp.org/eunjea/jargon/?idx=PHB ) 


to clarify: it is a complete outrage that an email server is set up 
to barf out a whole screen full of worthless, erroneous and time 
wasting "virus warning" messages back to a message sender *MONTHS* 
(almost a *YEAR*?) after a text attachment has been sent to the 
list.

certainly the above situation qualifies for the WHAT THE F* award 
of the week, doesn't it?

certainly the list owner's attention ought to be brought to bear on 
whether or not a subscriber ought to be allowed to remain if their 
system is generating such a huge pile of unwanted fecal material, 
and certainly consideration should be given to pressuring the email 
admin, or other f*ing d*kheads in positions of "respoinsibility" at 
said subscriber's corporation/organization into reversing their 
f*ing stupid email configuration policy, no?

presumably an expression of outrage at the f*ing stupidity of said 
f*ing email server configuration would tend to put the issue on 
someones f*ing radar screen more than some "polite" request that 
everyone ignores?

anyways, Tim was wrong in thinking that I was insulting fatcity's 
email admin.

Tim's observations about language and tone were irrelevant and 
lacking in substance, and frankly, regardless of Tim's many other 
undoubtedly great/vast/endless virtues, culinary or not, I don't 
care about such ninny-like posturing and false rectitude anyway, so 
his advice was completely wasted on me.

I'm sure everyone was infinitely amused and entertained by your 
story of being fooled into eating a dead animals' testicles 
(apparently that topic wasn't covered in 5th grade).

regards,
ep


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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> Sigh. I wish I understood half the words used in this exchange. Or maybe
> not. But I still think Tim is a cool guy and I'm looking forward to
> drinking beer with him next time we meet. The first time I met with Tim
> was in Denver where he tricked me into eating  something he called Rocky
> Mountain Oysters. If he ever makes it to Denmark I'll trick him into
> eating our world-famous blood sausage.
> 


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Re: Oracle IFS

2002-05-02 Thread Gene Sais

Samba, best is its free.

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And also store millions of little files that are now a backup nightmare.

Does anybody have any experience with IFS (performance, possibilities,
pitfalls )

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RE: ERD generation tool

2002-05-02 Thread johanna . doran

I dont mind the PK thing, I prefer it that way, but it also inconsistently places 
migrated foreign keys on the bottom (this is just mdoeling, no reverse engineering).  
This is just a slight pain for us as we have a bunch of auditing fields that I like to 
be last for readability.  Sometimes I can move them, soemtimes I can't.

Hannah


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> I have seen it create two columns with the exact same name in a table.  It
> did this by putting double quotes around the column it was adding (that
> actually already existed.)
> 
> What's so bad about moving the pk fields to the top?  Why would you put them
> in the middle of the table?  I think having pk at the top is more readable,
> and it assists with more optimal storage at a very low level.
> 
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migration MS SQL 6.5 to ORACLE 8i

2002-05-02 Thread Arslan Bahar


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Correcting user sql inside the database

2002-05-02 Thread Yechiel Adar

Hello list

This time I need your help on how to implement a weird idea.
We have a third party application that fire wasteful SQL's to the database.
(Remember the discussion on using x$dual Vs dual some days ago?)

I am wondering: Is there a way to change the SQL that the user send?

In ADABAS on the mainframe I can activate a user exit that gets the command
that
the user send to the database and change it (Not only can, but we are doing
it!).

Is there a way to do the same with SQL in Oracle?

In the server (preferably) or in the client.

Thanks

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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RE: ERD generation tool - Active Comparisons

2002-05-02 Thread johanna . doran

Why?  For consistnecy.  I am in charge of making ALL changes to the data model, then 
rolling out those changes to the db.  Our developers RELY on me and my tools for a 
database that reflects the model that we developed (Without Error). 

Therefore, everything we do here STARTS with the model (dreamy, huh?).  And the 
developers agree with this as we can get literally hundreds of changes (this has 
calmed down now that we have our first release), and this is the best way in our case 
to manage it (one point of change).

Now, I had been seeing some *weird* stuff creep into the model (inconsistencies, 
datatypes not being consistent from the logical to physical model etc).  So, I spent 
some time going throught the entire model *fixing* the little stuff and syncing the 
logical and physical models.  I ran a bunch of reports to looks at it (and got some of 
the wierdness that I mentioned previously like pk cloumn showing up a NULLABLE...etc). 
So, as a further TEST, I rolled out the model using the scripts generated by ERWin and 
just for the Heck of it, decided to do the compare and it failed.  NO ONE was mucking 
with the database.  But compares from model to db are useful for syncing the db IF 
something like that should happen.

Think of it this way, copying a file in an editor (take Word for example).  You may 
not NEED that extra file, but you would be completely WIGGED out if your copy was NOT 
the same as the original.  Which was my point of doing it in the first - to test 
ERWin.  It failed.

Hannah
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Re: SIMPLE QUESTION

2002-05-02 Thread Yechiel Adar

Dave

I checked this out and it depends on the oracle version.
Editing the listener.log of 8.1.6.3.4 on NT failed as: Another process is
using the file.
The same for 9.0.1.3 on NT. Editing not problem. Marked the whole text
except for
the last day and deleted it and then I saved the file.
Size down to 9k from about 10,000k.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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If you are running Oracle on Windoze, you have to stop the listener service,
then rename the listener.log, then start the listener service again.  I
don't know how on Unix.

Dave

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HI AGAIN,

JUST WANT TO CHECK WITH YOU GUYS, MY LISTENER.LOG IS GETTING BIG I TRY TO
RENAME IT THEN CREATE A NEW LISTENER.LOG BUT STILL THE OLD ONE IS USING BY
ORACLE.
HOW CAN I TRUNCATE THE LISTENER.LOG OR CAN I JUST SIMPLY DELETE IT OR NOT?
THANKS FOR HELP.




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Re: pl/sql is INTERPRETED?

2002-05-02 Thread Yechiel Adar

You THINK that you are kidding.
I submit to you that in a few years there will be a great demand for Cobol
programmers as the current old crop goes into retirement
and all the newbe's are learning Java and perl.

Start writing those books. They will be  needed by the time that you finish
them.

Just my 2$ (inflation, you know)

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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> Whatever happend to COBOL anyway??  That was so easy to code, along with
> Fortran, BASIC, Pascal was a lot of fun.  What's wrong with storing your
> data in VSAM files???
>
> I think I hear my pasture calling me...35, and retired...that would be
nice.
> I can write COBOL books to fund my retirement...
>

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How to know if another database is running on the same machine?

2002-05-02 Thread Abdul Aleem

Hi!

On my win2k server I configured two databases one for data (MYData) and the
other for EM Repository OEMREP. The tools do not seem to be able to connect
to the database having data. The error reported is that TNS couldn't
identify SID.

The v$database shows only the OEMREP database (Could be because the other
one is not accessible or perhaps the view shows the one that is active).

How do I know whether the other database is there or not and how to make it
accessible?

TIA!

Aleem
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Re: Oracle-L gathering etc.

2002-05-02 Thread Mogens Nørgaard

Well, if rumors are true, Howard Rogers ordered about 60 tons of James' 
book in order to get his barbeque going. That would explain it. They're 
sold out. Don't expect this special bargain again until they've 
re-printed James' book (maybe with a new title like "Failing Oracle9i" 
or such).

Mogens

Jonathan Lewis wrote:

>Strange,
>
>But I can't get to see the offer now either.
>Yesterday you could get all three books
>Practical Oracle 8i ...
>Internal services for waits, latches ..
>Scaling Oracle 8i ...
>
>For the knock-down price of $78.91 instead
>of $109.89  (and I've got the html to prove it !)
>
>Today the offer has disappeared.
>
>
>Thank for the tip about ISBN
>
>
>Jonathan Lewis
>http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk
>
>Author of:
>Practical Oracle 8i: Building Efficient Databases
>
>Next Seminar - Australia - July/August
>http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html
>
>Host to The Co-Operative Oracle Users' FAQ
>http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 01 May 2002 23:42
>
>
>|On Wed, 1 May 2002, Connor McDonald wrote:
>|
>|> Having seem some of the presenters in action, I can
>|> heartily recommend the seminar in Oz to anyone that
>|> can get there...I can also heartily recommend Oz as
>|> easily the best place on the planet! (touch of bias)
>|>
>|> ... also interesting is that under my piddly old
>|> Netscape 3 I can see the "Great Buy" offer Jonathan
>|> alludes to, but it does not appear under IE 5.5
>|>
>|> Jeremiah - comment?
>|
>|Well having never been down under it is a little hard to comment.
>|Being under the restrictions of employee NDA with the zon, it is even
>|harder to say.
>|
>|But I'll give you this: It isn't the flavor of browser.
>|
>|Also, remember when posting that you can specify Amazon detail page
>|URLs as shorter strings by cutting off everything after the ISBN,
>like
>|so:
>|
>|http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201715848
>|
>|--
>|Jeremiah Wilton
>|http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton
>|
>


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Re: Oracle-L gathering etc.

2002-05-02 Thread Jonathan Lewis


Strange,

But I can't get to see the offer now either.
Yesterday you could get all three books
Practical Oracle 8i ...
Internal services for waits, latches ..
Scaling Oracle 8i ...

For the knock-down price of $78.91 instead
of $109.89  (and I've got the html to prove it !)

Today the offer has disappeared.


Thank for the tip about ISBN


Jonathan Lewis
http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk

Author of:
Practical Oracle 8i: Building Efficient Databases

Next Seminar - Australia - July/August
http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html

Host to The Co-Operative Oracle Users' FAQ
http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html



-Original Message-
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 01 May 2002 23:42


|On Wed, 1 May 2002, Connor McDonald wrote:
|
|> Having seem some of the presenters in action, I can
|> heartily recommend the seminar in Oz to anyone that
|> can get there...I can also heartily recommend Oz as
|> easily the best place on the planet! (touch of bias)
|>
|> ... also interesting is that under my piddly old
|> Netscape 3 I can see the "Great Buy" offer Jonathan
|> alludes to, but it does not appear under IE 5.5
|>
|> Jeremiah - comment?
|
|Well having never been down under it is a little hard to comment.
|Being under the restrictions of employee NDA with the zon, it is even
|harder to say.
|
|But I'll give you this: It isn't the flavor of browser.
|
|Also, remember when posting that you can specify Amazon detail page
|URLs as shorter strings by cutting off everything after the ISBN,
like
|so:
|
|http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201715848
|
|--
|Jeremiah Wilton
|http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton
|

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RE: How to deinstall oracle 9i and leave 8i intact

2002-05-02 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi,

May be those are shared component with your old 8i, btw what are those component



regards
Sinardy

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Tom,

I started with using the installer. It appears it installed Oracle
software. Of course this does nothing with the registry,services,etc.  When
I go back into
installer it still shows some 9i installed. When I try to uninstall it
insist on un-installing some oracle 8i software.  I have been working in
Oracle since the
end of Oracle 5 and one thing is constant Oracle install/uninstall
procedures SUCKS. Ok I feel a little better now,back to the problem.  I
found a Oracle
document detailing removal or oracle software and a oracle home, followed
it to the letter. Everything appears to work fine except the installer
still shows some 9i software installed when I know there is not. It mus be
stored elsewhere but do not know how to correct.  This may cause problems
if I attempt to re-install 9i. Any ideas?

Thanks
Rick


   
   
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Rick,

how about using the installer?

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Reposting as I forgot to include a subject line on previous post.

I have Oracle 8i with 4 instances and Oracle 9i with 1 instance.
How can I just remove all of Oracle 9i without touching Oracle 8i?


Thanks
Rick



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RE:

2002-05-02 Thread Sinardy Xing

What is the OS ?

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I have been reading/searching the DAMN documentation like I always do
before posting a question.  It is frustrating enough to get this to
work correctly. I do not need this type of reply so keep it to yourself.
All it does is add to the frustration.  I greatly appreciate the
constructive
help I have gotten from the others.



   

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> I have Oracle 8i with 4 instances and Oracle 9i with 1 instance.
> How can I just remove all of Oracle 9i without touching Oracle 8i?
>
>
> Thanks
> Rick
>
>
>

how about reading the documentation that came with the damn software?


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Oracle IFS

2002-05-02 Thread Jack van Zanen

Hi All,


We are looking for possible solutions to share files between Windows &
Unix.
And also store millions of little files that are now a backup nightmare.

Does anybody have any experience with IFS (performance, possibilities,
pitfalls )

TIA

Jack

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Re: pl/sql is INTERPRETED?

2002-05-02 Thread Jared Still


Hold on Lisa!

Java is not complex.  It's a very simple language
actually.  It took me a week to learn it, though I'm 
not using it now:  I much prefer Perl.

Getting a handle on all of the libraries and API's is
another story, but Java as a language is pretty simple.

Jared

On Tuesday 30 April 2002 11:14, Koivu, Lisa wrote:
> You have a point Chris, but pl/sql is nowhere near as complex as an OO
> language like java or C++, IMHO.  I agree with Tom that pl/sql can be
> learned fairly easily in comparison to the many other choices out there.
> However, it takes a bit of database savvy to do it correctly.  (Not much
> tho)
>
> I was amazed in my "database" class in college that the same people failing
> the simple entity-relationship modeling portion of the class that had aced
> the Op Systems and networking classes we took.  I nearly failed both
> classes, they were so complex.  I was the teacher's pet in the db class
> because I asked him questions that made him think, and he sometimes
> couldn't answer.  (And I had to wear a skirt - night student, straight from
> work.)
>
> What's easy for who is dependent on the person's strengths.
>
> Lisa Koivu
> Oracle Database Monkey Mama
> Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
> 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway
> Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Grabowy, Chris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:14 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject:RE: pl/sql is INTERPRETED?
> >
> > IMHO, I don't believe that you can "properly" learn PL/SQL in a very
> > short period of time, or for that matter, any other language.
> >
> > I attended Steve Feuerstein's presentation at MAOP-AOTC conference, and
> > he tore into many real-life examples of PL/SQL.  Supposedly, these were
> > written
> > by developers that knew what they were doing.
> >
> > Granted, if a smart developer sits down and reads Feuerstein's Learning
> > PL/SQL and Best Practices books, then perhaps they will be good.  But who
> > the hell has free time?  There is no free time on any project or effort
> > that
> > I know of!!  I'm struggling with trying to improve my Oracle DBA skills,
> > plus some developers skills so I can speak their language when they blow
> > out
> > OPEN_CURSORS or something.  My head is swimming in the stupid technical
> > alphabet soup, XML, XDK, XSQL, XSLT, XPath, SOAP, ASP, ADO, EJB, BC4J,
> > JDBC,
> > SQLJ, PSP, JVM, JSP, J2EE, EAD, RMI, CORBA, IIOP...and don't ask me what
> > all
> > those mean, because I can't keep them straight.  But I do keep hearing
> > that
> > XML is going to put me out of a job, so I guess I should learn
> > that...whatever that is.  Isn't XML an add-on, or extension, or something
> > to
> > DML???
> >
> > Now where the heck did I hide that bottle...
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:15 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Lisa,
> >
> > You are right about the debate between PL/SQL & Java (or anything else
> > outside of the db).
> >
> > In my mind, the deciding factor (and something that is *never* mentioned)
> > is
> > what programming langauage the organization is satisfied with/settled
> > upon.
> >
> > In my little opinion, *any* programmer can learn PL/SQL in a very short
> > period of time.  This means that development and maintenance costs are
> > relatively low.  If an IT shop is stronger in Java, then they should
> > probably program in Java, or Cobol, or Ada, or whatever the flavor of the
> > decade happens to be (lets bring back APL!).
> >
> > IT tool selection/standards should be the deciding factor.
> >
> > Tom Mercadante
> > Oracle Certified Professional
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:34 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > This is something that's been debated on the list in the past.  The
> > general
> > consensus was:
> >
> > For manipulating data in the database, nothing beats pl/sql.  It is well
> > suited for this purpose.
> >
> > For everything else, java could beat it.
> >
> > I am sure fellow list members will post links describing studies.  I
> > remember seeing these last year.
> >
> > Stefan, have you tried running your own test?  There's a sure fire way to
> > convince yourself.  Even a small test (no fancy code) would suffice. 
> > Wish I
> > had more time to play...
> >
> > Lisa Koivu
> > Oracle Database Monkey Mama
> > Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
> > 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway
> > Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Stefan Jahnke [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:49 AM
> > > To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject:  AW: pl/sql is INTERPRETED?
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > how about Java within Oracle. What do you think about it ?
> > > When does it make sense to use Java instead of PL/SQL ?
> > > The problem is that I dislike a mix

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