Re: performance

2002-07-01 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev

> I didn't mean to be so stiff on the reply -- sorry for that...
You are excused...
Just kidding. :-) I didn't mean that either - my apologies.

And you may be very right on the political perspective. What's done is done.
It could be not the right time for late general setups, but analysis is
always a good choice.

> The most common issues in the redo stream are certainly sizing and I/O.
> Yes, it can be quite cut-and-dried.  But Ravi merely mentioned that
> "performance was slower" after enabling ARCHIVELOG mode and for all we
know,
> it truly may have nothing to do with the redo logging stream whatsoever.
It
> could be something else (i.e. bad SQL that someone recently slammed in at
> the same time) that neither Ravi (nor we) are aware of.  It could be
> anything at all...
>
> So, making changes in the complete absence of information can easily end
up
> with the following scenario:  Ravi makes the recommended changes (i.e. add
> redo log groups, change group sizes, pester SysAdmins to create new
> file-systems to separate online from archived destinations, etc), all with
> no impact on performance.  Thus, his credibility is harmed, if not totally
> destroyed.  Happens all the time...(8 million stories in the naked
city)...
>
> Better to look first, understand exactly what is happening, and act on
real
> information.
>
> - Original Message -
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 7:53 AM
>
>
> > I've assumed, that nothing changed beside ARCHIVE LOG mode. "when Our DB
> is
> > non-archive mode that was ok,when we moved to Archive, it is dead slow"
> > This directs to the question of I/O with archiving redo logs in first
> turn.
> > Doesn't it? What may be other direct performance issues of ARCHIVE LOG
> mode?
> > I admit that there is not enough information, which may easily make me
> > mistaken. However, there should be some general setup for archive log
> mode,
> > and that's what I gave. General setup should be made before moving to
> > archivelog mode and taken as basis for further tuning.
> >
> > Alexandre
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 2:43 PM
> >
> >
> > > Alexandre,
> > >
> > > I beg to differ.
> > >
> > > You have assumed, in the complete absence of any information, that he
> has
> > an
> > > I/O problem.  He might.  He also might not.  He should look first,
> before
> > > leaping.
> > >
> > > -Tim
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 1:53 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ravi,
> > > >
> > > > Make sure you have at least 5-10 redo log groups. That's depends on
> your
> > > > workload. You also may need to increase their size. Think how much
log
> > > info
> > > > your database can generate and size your logs that it would be
enough
> > for
> > > 10
> > > > mins at least. (Of course that would be pretty rough estimation)
> > > > Also make sure you put redo logs and arcived redo logs on differend
> > disks!
> > > > So that's for start. After, you may follow advice given in Tim's
> reply.
> > > >
> > > > hth
> > > > Alexandre
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 9:13 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Dear All,
> > > > >
> > > > > Can any one please give me some hints or tips when we
> > > > > move to archive mode? when Our DB is non-archive mode
> > > > > that was ok,when we moved to Archive, it is dead slow.
> > > > >
> > > > >  Obviosuly archive mode performance is slow, is there
> > > > > any other precations to be taken care?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your help.
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Ravi
> > > > >
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Re: Oracle client won't install on Windows 2000

2002-07-01 Thread Bunyamin Karadeniz

Check if the processor is P4.
If so , you must  replace the symcjit.dll and jvm.dll  with the ones in 9i
CD.

Bunyamin

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> One of our developers is having a problem installing Oracle Client
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> When he clicks on Install/Deinstall, however the Oracle Installer never
> comes
> up.
>
> Any ideas what might be wrong?
>
> Thanks
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Re: system event waits

2002-07-01 Thread Bunyamin Karadeniz

It was talked on the list and had been said that 1% of performance it
affects nearly as I remember.
Bunyamin
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> Do you guys think making times statistic =true has any performance impact
.
> Are there any other considerations ?
>
> -Bp
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>
>
> > > Depending on the version of the database, timed_statistics
> > > may be dynamic
> > > and
> > > not require a database bounce.
> >
> > True - but the timing values are meaningless unless the counters
> > (TOTAL_WAITS and TOTAL_TIMEOUTS) are reset. Only a bounce  resets the
> > counters and switches on timing at the same time I wouldn't
recommend
> > using the time values otherwise.
> >
> > John Kanagaraj
> > Oracle Applications DBA
> > DBSoft Inc
> > (W): 408-970-7002
> >
> > Want to know about a carpenter who built a bridge with two sticks and
> three
> > nails? Write me for details!
> >
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Re: the ora certified masters cert, yet again

2002-07-01 Thread Jared Still


Personal attacks certainly don't belong here.

Best not do it at all.

Jared

On Wednesday 26 June 2002 19:28, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> YO! JARED! has this gotten off-topic yet? since when is "picking on
> Rachel" part of the on topic list???
>
> --- Joe Testa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Chris, feel blessed, she stays during all of mine and asks bizarre
> > questions :),
> >
> > like:  If 2 control files are being updated at the same time and one
> > is
> > on raid-5 and the other on raid 0+1, which one will be finished
> > updating
> > first.
> >
> > joe
> >
> > Grabowy, Chris wrote:
> > >Matt, she walked out in the middle of your presentation??
> > >
> > >Your lucky.  She walked out of mine at the beginning, shaking her
> >
> > head.  Oh
> >
> > >well...
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:40 PM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have to
> >
> > walk
> >
> > >out in the middle
> > >
> > >
> > >--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >wrote:
> > >>Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
> > >>lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
> > >>little sparse on details.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>We have enough youth.
> > >>How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > >>
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
> > >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>But Mtt... you were always scheduled at either the
> > >>same
> > >>time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to yours, I
> > >>get
> > >>stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted to
> >
> > see
> >
> > >>equally as much were there.
> > >>
> > >>Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at 5, I
> > >>have to leave around 2:30 or so
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>
> > >>wrote:
> > >>>But Rachel, you never came to any of my
> > >>>presentations!  (in my best whiney voice)
> > >>>
> > >>>At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>We have enough youth.
> > >>>How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > >>>
> > >>>-Original Message-
> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
> > >>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
> > >>>
> > >>>or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
> > >>>
> > >>>"he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship him"
> > >>>
> > >>>:)
> > >>>
> > >>>--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>
> > >>>wrote:
> > Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was orginally
> > schedule
> > to give two presentations)  due to a medical situation.  I gave
> > >>>
> > >>>four
> > >>>
> > the
> > year
> > before that.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > We have enough youth.
> > How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > OK.  As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our best
> > >>
> > >>to
> > >>
> > weed out
> > the fluff.  If you were at IOUG this year, you should have
> > >>
> > >>noticed
> > >>
> > >>>a
> > >>>
> > significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more technical
> > content.
> > Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giving a presentation,
> > >>
> > >>but
> > >>
> > the
> > content has to be there.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Many people on this forum have submitted presentations to my
> > >>
> > >>track
> > >>
> > and then
> > complained that they were not accepted.  Let me give you some
> > concrete
> > numbers.  This year, we received over 400 abstracts for the DBA
> > >>>
> > >>>track
> > >>>
> > alone
> > and accepted only 80.  If one slips through the cracks, it won't
> > >>
> > >>a
> > >>
> > second
> > time.  Believe me when I say that 2002 was the best
> > >>>
> > >>>content-organized
> > >>>
> > IOUG.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Further comments?  Submit an abstract for 2003 and find out!!!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank You
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Stephen P. Karniotis
> > 
> > Product Architect
> > 
> > Compuware Corporation
> > 
> > Direct:   (248) 865-4350
> > 
> > Mobile:  (248) 408-2918
>
> === message truncated ===
>
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Re: Remove numbers from string

2002-07-01 Thread Jared Still


Yes, but not nearly as flexible as owa_pattern, and infinitely
more difficult to read.

Jared

On Monday 01 July 2002 14:33, Kirsch, Walter J (Northrop Grumman) wrote:
> Actually, it's simpler to use the trick
>
> select translate('abc123def432', '~1234567890','~') from dual;
>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:23 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Yes, use regular expressions via the owa_pattern package.
>
> Here's an example:
>
> declare
>tstr varchar2(100) := 'this c34ontains s0239everal 2340 numeric 882
> dig2its';
> begin
>dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
>-- remove the digits
>owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\d', '', 'g');
>dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
>-- remove the extra spaces
>owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\s+', ' ', 'g');
>dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
> end;
> /
>
> Jared
>
>
>
>
>
> Nils Höglund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 07/01/2002 04:18 AM
> Please respond to ORACLE-L
>
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> cc:
> Subject:Remove numbers from string
>
>
>
> Is there any way to remove all numbers from a string?
>
> The string might look like this: 'abc123def432'
> and I wan't it to look like this: 'abcdef'.
>
> I'm using Oracle 8.
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
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Re: Remove numbers from string

2002-07-01 Thread Jared Still


No,  I checked on my 8.1.7.3 database first, and it's there.

I don't have app server installed.  I have the source to 
the package anyway.  Don't know if it's wrapped now
or not, but I don't think so...

Nope, not wrapped:

$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/pubpat.sql
$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/privpat.sql

Jared

On Monday 01 July 2002 13:48, Grabowy, Chris wrote:
> JS,
>
> Doesn't that owa_pattern package come from the PL/SQL Web Toolkit, which
> requires that you have the Oracle App Server licensed??
>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:23 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Yes, use regular expressions via the owa_pattern package.
>
> Here's an example:
>
> declare
>tstr varchar2(100) := 'this c34ontains s0239everal 2340 numeric 882
> dig2its';
> begin
>dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
>-- remove the digits
>owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\d', '', 'g');
>dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
>-- remove the extra spaces
>owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\s+', ' ', 'g');
>dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
> end;
> /
>
> Jared
>
>
>
>
>
> Nils Höglund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 07/01/2002 04:18 AM
> Please respond to ORACLE-L
>
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> cc:
> Subject:Remove numbers from string
>
>
>
> Is there any way to remove all numbers from a string?
>
> The string might look like this: 'abc123def432'
> and I wan't it to look like this: 'abcdef'.
>
> I'm using Oracle 8.
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
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Re: Perl for Oracle DBAs....wow.

2002-07-01 Thread Jared Still


Here's the TOC.

Not too sure about an abstract, or what I can post here 
without upsetting O'Reilly's apple cart.  I'll find out.
I've put a few comments in the toolkit part of the TOC.

Jared

These chapter numbers are not correct.  I couldn't find a corrected
TOC in Word, so this is somewhat different than reality. Close 
enough for now though.


Table of Contents
Part I:  Introducing Perl for Oracle
1.Perl Meets Oracle
2. Installing Perl

Part II:Extending Perl
3.Perl GUI Extensions
4.Perl Web Extensions
5. Embedding Perl into Apache with mod_perl
6. Embedded Perl Web Scripting
7. Invoking the Oracle Call Interface with Oracle::OCI
8. Embedding Perl into PL/SQL

Part III:   The Perl Database Administration Toolkit
9. Installing the PDBA Toolkit
How to install the modules and scripts, and a number of
required supporting modules, for Win32 and Unix.

How to setup the password server.  Configurable for 
database, server and account names.  Allows restricting
some passwords to certain users.  Only authenticated
password server users allowed access.  Passwords 
sent over the network via RC4 encryption.

10.   Monitoring the Database with the PDBA Toolkit
Monitor alert.logs from a Unix Daemon or Service, use a
regular expression to catch errors of interest and mail to
DBA.

Monitor database connectivity.  Somewhat flexibile.  Configure
the times for required uptime during which the DBA should be
paged on a per database basis.  Rotating 'on call' DBA email addresses.
Optional paging of OPS, DBA Supervison, etc.
Log all connectivity checks.

Some other stuff.

11.   Building a Database Repository with the PDBA Toolkit

Store schemas in a repository.  Several canned reports to 
report on changes that may have occurred.

Store SQL and Execution Plans.  Find execution paths that
have changed over time.

Plan on using a lot of disk space for this stuff.  :)

12.   Performing Routine DBA Tasks with the PDBA Toolkit
Scripts for:
Killing Sniped Sessions ( flame on if you must, but I kill 'em,
and make it easier for others to do so as well ;)

creating and dropping user accounts, including a script to
create many at one time.

Extract DDL

sqlunldr.pl - dump a whole schema or selected tables to
CSV format, generating SQL*Loader files for each.  Handles
BLOB's and LONG's upto 32k.   One of my favorites. :)

13.   Extending the PDBA Toolkit

We walk through a script using most of the included modules
and give detailed explanations of the code.  Probably necessary
for writing your own unless you have a lot of Perl experience.

Worth the read just to understand how to use the Password Server
modules in your Perl scripts.  The command line stuff is easy, but
the modules require a bit of explanation, it's kind of tricky.

Part IV:Appendixes
A.The Essential Guide to Perl
B.The Essential Guide to Perl DBI
C.The Essential Guide to Perl Regular Expressions
D.The Essential Guide to Perl Data Munging

Index
Colophon

On Monday 01 July 2002 09:20, Rodd Holman wrote:
> Jared,
>
> What's the possibility of seeing the Table of Contents, or an abstract
> of this?  The title seems to have grabbed a lot of interest among us
> all.
>
> Rodd
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Re: Perl for Oracle DBAs....wow.

2002-07-01 Thread Jared Still


Top 10?  cool!

On Friday 28 June 2002 13:23, Grabowy, Chris wrote:
> Oh really?   Everyone order their copies from bookpool.com!!!
>
> Let's see if we can get it to the top ten list
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> yeah but then Jared loses even more money on it :)
>
>
> --- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > It's even cheaper at bookpool.
> >
> > http://www.bookpool.com/.x/7yyzb675nm/ss/1?qs=perl+oracle
> >
> > 
> > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > We have enough youth.
> > How about a fountain of intelligence?
> >
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Re: Asynchronous Procedure Calls

2002-07-01 Thread Jared Still


Doesn't sound too scalable, and you had to write your own queue.  :)

Jared

On Monday 01 July 2002 14:38, Scott Canaan wrote:
> That is true, I have figured it out.  dbms_job will allow the asynchronous
> execution of procedures and dbms_pipe allows the communication between the
> processes to occur.  It works.  I'm doing it now.  The jobs are being
> kicked off in groups of 10 and they are sending a message back to the
> calling program via pipes.  Each job has it's own pipe, so the main program
> can keep track of who is done.  Currently, I am waiting for all 10 to
> complete before starting the next 10, but I may work on a way to start the
> eleventh job when the first one finishes.  I'm just glad that I got
> something to work.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
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> > Jared
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> > You need dbms_job(s)
> > Also make sure you have enough background job processes to handle the
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> > Advanced Queuing will do what you need.
> >
> > There are examples at otn.oracle.com
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> > and the called procedure and that seems to be working.  What I want to
> > do is call the procedure multiple times, asynchronously, from the main
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Re: Questionable V$SQLAREA Statistics

2002-07-01 Thread Tim Gorman

Steve,

Query V$SESSION_EVENT for the SID of that session.  If you see the
wait-event "db file scattered read" change during the query, then it truly
is doing I/O, like it or not.  It is more likely that the CACHE attribute is
not working as you've apparently assumed it does, rather than there being a
bug...

---

The attribute CACHE is poorly named.  It ought to properly have been called
TREAT_FULL_TABLE_SCANS_LIKE_INDEXED_SCANSPERHAPS, but nobody asked...

...guess you wouldn't want to hear what I named my kids...  :-)

Anyway, the CACHE option only instructs Oracle not to place database blocks
read during FULL table scan at the LRU (i.e. least-recently used) end of the
LRU chain (causing them to fall off the chain almost immediately), but
instead place them at the MRU (i.e. most-recently used) end of the LRU chain
(just as with blocks read via indexed scans).  So, as you can imagine, this
is a long way from what I imagine you think it means:  "pinning" the blocks
for the table into the Buffer Cache.  Rather, it only improves the chances
for the table's blocks to remain in the Buffer Cache a little while longer.
There is rather sparse documentation on this feature, but what there is can
be found in the "SQL Reference" manual for CREATE/ALTER TABLE and in the
"Tuning" guide for the CACHE and NOCACHE hints.

>From Oracle8i onward, the operation of the "LRU Chain" in the Buffer Cache
has changed dramatically;  Craig Shallahamer has an excellent paper on the
"touch-count" algorithm on his website at http://www.orapub.com.  With these
changes to the venerable LRU algorithm, I wouldn't be surprised if the CACHE
attribute has become a complete "no-op", but I haven't tested if that has
happened or not yet.  I don't really care, to be honest, because it's never
been a very useful feature...

---

If you are trying to achieve that "pinned" effect in the Buffer Cache, the
best you can do is enable the KEEP buffer pool and direct your table to that
pool using CREATE/ALTER TABLE.  If you size the KEEP buffer pool at 10,000
blocks and direct fewer than 10,000 blocks into it, then you can be pretty
sure that you'll "cache" those objects, effectively "pinning" them into the
SGA.  If you oversubscribe to the KEEP buffer pool (i.e. assign more objects
and blocks to the pool than buffers available), then you'll start aging
things out and I/O will occur.  A query like "SELECT SUM(BLOCKS) FROM
DBA_TABLES WHERE BUFFER_POOL = 'KEEP'" would give you an idea, if you've
analyzed the tables recently...

Hope this helps

-Tim

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> The degree is 4 and it is cached via alter table, not the KEEP buffer. On
> Oracle 8.1.7.2 on Linux RedHat 7.2
>
> Thanks for clues...
>
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> What is the degree of parallelism on this table?
>
> Waleed
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>
> -Original Message-
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>
> What version of Oracle?
>
> > 1) I have a 400,000 row table table which is cached.
>
> How has the table been cached?  Alter table XXX cache?  Or with a KEEP
> buffer?
>
> -Original Message-
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> Here's the scene:
>
> 1) I have a 400,000 row table table which is cached.
>
> 2) I have a query against that table and no other with one column
referenced
> in the WHERE clause. (This column is indexed and of course I don't really
> need the index since the table is cached but it's there so ho hum...)
>
> 3) When I run tkprof on the query it shows a full table scan ignoring the
> index... that's what I want 'cause it's cached.
>
> 4) But when I look at V$SQLAREA the DISK_READS column is incremented.
>
> 5) This query is executed very often so my StatsPack report lists it as
one
> of the most expensive queries in terms of physical reads.
>
>
> It appears that Oracle is counting full table scans of cached tables as
> DISK_READS in V$SQLAREA. Seems like this is a bug to me 'cause it's not
> really a physical disk read but is getting data from the buffers.
>
> Don't you think this is a bug? Has anyone seen this before?
>
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Re: system event waits

2002-07-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

setting it to true might have a very small performance impact. the
impact of not having it set is that many of the statistics you gather
for performance tuning are meaningless.

If you need to get every possible millisecond of performance, turn
timed_statistics on when you have problems and wait for the problem to
recur or turn it on for a limited time, which will with luck encompass
a relative sample of the transactions you run across


--- BigP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do you guys think making times statistic =true has any performance
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> Are there any other considerations ?
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> > > Depending on the version of the database, timed_statistics
> > > may be dynamic
> > > and
> > > not require a database bounce.
> >
> > True - but the timing values are meaningless unless the counters
> > (TOTAL_WAITS and TOTAL_TIMEOUTS) are reset. Only a bounce  resets
> the
> > counters and switches on timing at the same time I wouldn't
> recommend
> > using the time values otherwise.
> >
> > John Kanagaraj
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RE: Remove numbers from string

2002-07-01 Thread Ferenc Mantfeld

Nils

I wrote this function some time ago, when our CTI application was crashing
because it found telephone numbers to dial like 1-800-Dial-a-prayer or
'(800)-555 1234', so I wrote this function to replace any non-alphanumeric
characters with nulls and any letters on the dial pad with the corresponding
numbers. You can adapt it for yourself to suit. It runs pretty fast on even
millions of rows. Cheers :



Regards:
Ferenc Mantfeld
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Siebel Performance Engineering
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Is there any way to remove all numbers from a string?

The string might look like this: 'abc123def432' 
and I wan't it to look like this: 'abcdef'.

I'm using Oracle 8.


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RE: Hints being ignored

2002-07-01 Thread Larry Elkins

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Connor
> McDonald
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 12:29 PM
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>
>
> Are you sure?  I've seen two very common examples in
> the past which lead people to think that hints are
> ignored when in fact they have not been:
>
>
> Example 1:
>
> In SQL, select /*+HINT*/ will work, but in PL/SQL,
> select /*+HINT*/ fails since the space trailing the +
> is missing.
>
> Example 2:
>
> select /*+ USE_MERGE(e) */ ...
> from DEPT d, EMP e
>
> can come back with a hash join - but the hint has NOT
> been ignored, it has been 'avoided'.  USE_MERGE simply
> says if EMP is the *target* in the join, then make
> sure its a sort-merge.  That of course does not stop
> EMP being the *driver* table in a hash join.

And one of the reasons it is recommended to use the ORDERED hint when
specifying join methods. There is nothing to prevent the CBO, as Connor
pointed out, from calculating costs using other join orders, as is its
normal behavior. The hint didn't *exclude* the evaluation of the various
combinations of driving orders of tables. I think this is the most common
example I see -- ignoring join methods when the person failed to specify the
ORDERED hint.

And another more subtle one is even if E, in the above example, is *not* the
driving table in the plan and yet a HASH JOIN instead of a MERGE JOIN is
used. What happens there is that the CBO evaluates driving by E, deciding on
an HJ and throwing a "swap sides" at you.

Larry G. Elkins

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Re: Oracle client won't install on Windows 2000

2002-07-01 Thread Ron Thomas


If this is a P4 machine, check metalink, et al, for the installer workaround.  There 
are a known
issues with symcjit.dll

   

 Doc 
ID: Note:131299.1 
 
Subject: ALERT: Oracle Installer 8.1.X Hangs on Machines with Pentium 
 4 
Processors  
 Type: 
ALERT   
 
Status: PUBLISHED 
 
Content Type: TEXT/PLAIN  
 
Creation Date: 02-JAN-2001
 Last 
Revision Date: 26-JUN-2001   
   

   

 This 
alert was modified 14-May-2001 by modifying the  
 
vesions affected section to a generic RDBMS version and adding a  
 
simplified
 
workaround.   
   

 This 
alert was modified 16-January-2001 by specifying specific Oracle 
 
Universal 
 
Installer Versions in the the Versions Affected section.  
   

   

 
Oracle Universal Installer (OUI) for RDBMS 8.1.x Hangs on Machines
 with 
Pentium 4 Processors 
 
~~
   

 
Versions Affected 
 
~ 
 
Oracle Universal Installer for RDBMS 8.1.x
   

   

 
Platforms Affected
 
~~   

Re: Oracle client won't install on Windows 2000

2002-07-01 Thread Jay

Sometmes this is an issue that I have run into.
Easy to fix, on the cd navigate out to the install folder, then the win32
folder and double click on the setup.exe there.
Just Microsoft having issues with Java.


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> When he clicks on Install/Deinstall, however the Oracle Installer never
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> up.
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> Thanks
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Re: exp73 dumpparam for unlimited extents?

2002-07-01 Thread Robert Monical

Thanks everyone for your advice.
If I want to retrofit to 7.3.4 I have to create the tables sans storage
clause then import import the data .

Otherwise wait until the database upgrade.




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Rule Based Hint

2002-07-01 Thread Nat

My queries are running exceptionally good with a rule based optimizer and
the cost based is doing a full table
scan for the same. Is it good idea to put the RULE hint..? or is there
anything I am missing. All my tables are properly analyzed. I thought I
should avoid RULE hint as much as possible.
any suggestions/comments on this pls..

Thanks in Advance,

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Re: Oracle client won't install on Windows 2000

2002-07-01 Thread Peter . McLarty

Hi
I am guessing that he has a P4 cpu in the system and you need to do the 
following. There is also a new installer to overcome this as well but 
don't have the info at hand there is more on Metalink

ORACLE ON PENTIUM 4 CONFLICT | by Liviu Obreja 

Here's a quick tip: The installation of Oracle8i on a Pentium 4
computer will exit without any notice. The reason for this is that
the Pentium 4 architecture has problems with the Just In Time
installer. To fix this problem, just find all copies of the file
symcjit.dll and rename them to symcjit.org. Then the installer will
work. Copy the installation CD to the HDD and make the changes, then
install from the HDD.  Voila!

>> CLICK for the full tip... 
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One of our developers is having a problem installing Oracle Client
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options to Install/Deinstall products, Explore CD, Browse Documentation.
When he clicks on Install/Deinstall, however the Oracle Installer never
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RE: Questionable V$SQLAREA Statistics

2002-07-01 Thread Orr, Steve

The degree is 4 and it is cached via alter table, not the KEEP buffer. On
Oracle 8.1.7.2 on Linux RedHat 7.2

Thanks for clues...


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What is the degree of parallelism on this table?

Waleed


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What version of Oracle?

> 1) I have a 400,000 row table table which is cached.

How has the table been cached?  Alter table XXX cache?  Or with a KEEP
buffer?

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Here's the scene:

1) I have a 400,000 row table table which is cached.

2) I have a query against that table and no other with one column referenced
in the WHERE clause. (This column is indexed and of course I don't really
need the index since the table is cached but it's there so ho hum...)

3) When I run tkprof on the query it shows a full table scan ignoring the
index... that's what I want 'cause it's cached.

4) But when I look at V$SQLAREA the DISK_READS column is incremented.

5) This query is executed very often so my StatsPack report lists it as one
of the most expensive queries in terms of physical reads.


It appears that Oracle is counting full table scans of cached tables as
DISK_READS in V$SQLAREA. Seems like this is a bug to me 'cause it's not
really a physical disk read but is getting data from the buffers. 

Don't you think this is a bug? Has anyone seen this before?


Steve Orr
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RE: Remove numbers from string

2002-07-01 Thread Khedr, Waleed

This is clever!

Waleed

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Actually, it's simpler to use the trick

select translate('abc123def432', '~1234567890','~') from dual;

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Yes, use regular expressions via the owa_pattern package.

Here's an example:

declare
   tstr varchar2(100) := 'this c34ontains s0239everal 2340 numeric 882 
dig2its';
begin
   dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
   -- remove the digits
   owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\d', '', 'g');
   dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
   -- remove the extra spaces
   owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\s+', ' ', 'g');
   dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
end;
/

Jared





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Is there any way to remove all numbers from a string?

The string might look like this: 'abc123def432' 
and I wan't it to look like this: 'abcdef'.

I'm using Oracle 8.


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OT: some questions regarding jobs in EU/US

2002-07-01 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (ubTools)

Hello,

I'm new to this topic. I don't know any procedures in detail.

As I know, to work in EU/US, I need to get work permission. What is the
procedure of getting work permission ? How long does it take to get work
permission ?

You can email me directly not to bother others...

regards...

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Re: Oracle client won't install on Windows 2000

2002-07-01 Thread Robert Monical

When I have seen this, the application attempted to start
and a window opens, but goes no further.
If you open up your processes there is a  jrew active. If it is not
there, then we are seeing a different problem.
Not repeatable: when I reboot, the next time I attempt the action it
works.

This also happens for DBA Studio every now and again.

I assume that there are some Java incompatibilities with Oracle 8 jrew
and Windows.

I have not seen yet it with oracle 9 uses, but have less attempts trying
things.


At 01:03 PM 7/1/2002 -0800, Schauss, Peter wrote:
One of our developers is having a problem
installing Oracle Client
(8.1.7).  When he inserts the CD the initial screen comes up with
the
options to Install/Deinstall products, Explore CD, Browse
Documentation.
When he clicks on Install/Deinstall, however the Oracle Installer
never
comes
up.

Any ideas what might be wrong?

Thanks
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Lead Oracle Architect-DBA Needed in Rhode Island...

2002-07-01 Thread OraStaff

Position: Lead Oracle Architect-DBA 

Location: Northern part of Rhode Island (near Mass. border)

Salary Range: 85-95K-depends on experience

Please Do Not send your resume for this position Unless you and have the skills 
outlined below for this position.

The company is looking for a solid Oracle DBA who has moved into architecture.

This company does not like to relocate, but may consider qualified candidates
willing to pay their own relocation expenses.

DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot be
considered.
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long term
project history.

This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties
please.

No H-1B Candidates please.

*Responsibilities:
This position requires in-depth database management, monitoring, tuning,
security and troubleshooting skills using Oracle on large Unix systems. Good
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Additional responsibilities include:
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*Requirements:
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-5+ years experience with Oracle running on Unix.  
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-Knowledge of transaction systems, data warehouse and ERP systems.  
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* Note: All interested candidates will be required to complete a DBA
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For  immediate consideration, please send your resume as a Word attachment to:
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Re: system event waits

2002-07-01 Thread BigP

Do you guys think making times statistic =true has any performance impact .
Are there any other considerations ?

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> > Depending on the version of the database, timed_statistics
> > may be dynamic
> > and
> > not require a database bounce.
>
> True - but the timing values are meaningless unless the counters
> (TOTAL_WAITS and TOTAL_TIMEOUTS) are reset. Only a bounce  resets the
> counters and switches on timing at the same time I wouldn't recommend
> using the time values otherwise.
>
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Re: Asynchronous Procedure Calls

2002-07-01 Thread Igor Neyman

What if the caller wants to be notified, when the job is completed?

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> Hi Jared,
>
> Why? The caller will resume operation once it submits the job for
immediate
> execution.
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> Am I missing something?
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> Waleed
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> DBMS_JOB will not solve the problem of
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> Jared
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> Advanced Queuing will do what you need.
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> There are examples at otn.oracle.com
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Re: Oracle client won't install on Windows 2000

2002-07-01 Thread Ferry Situmorang

Hi Peter,
I think you are using Intel Pentium IV processor for Win2K.
If this is the case, you may try Oracle 9i DB, or go to metalink
to see the tech note. 

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advance queue

2002-07-01 Thread BigP



   Is it possible to user nested 
table as part of payload in advance queue . If yes then how to give storage 
clause for nested table while creating queue table . Does some body out there 
have experience on using nested table or varray as part of payload . Which one 
is better from performance point .
 
-Bp


Re: system event waits

2002-07-01 Thread BigP

Thanks John and every body else .  You guys  rock .
-Bp


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> > Depending on the version of the database, timed_statistics
> > may be dynamic
> > and
> > not require a database bounce.
>
> True - but the timing values are meaningless unless the counters
> (TOTAL_WAITS and TOTAL_TIMEOUTS) are reset. Only a bounce  resets the
> counters and switches on timing at the same time I wouldn't recommend
> using the time values otherwise.
>
> John Kanagaraj
> Oracle Applications DBA
> DBSoft Inc
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RE: Oracle client won't install on Windows 2000

2002-07-01 Thread Bonnie Finke

I have had the problem with installing the Oracle Client on a Pentium IV machine.
If the developer is installing on a Pentium IV machine, please check out the note 
149297.1 on Metalink.

Regards,
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One of our developers is having a problem installing Oracle Client
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Re: Questionable V$SQLAREA Statistics

2002-07-01 Thread Stephane Faroult

"Orr, Steve" wrote:
> 
> Here's the scene:
> 
> 1) I have a 400,000 row table table which is cached.
> 
> 2) I have a query against that table and no other with one column referenced
> in the WHERE clause. (This column is indexed and of course I don't really
> need the index since the table is cached but it's there so ho hum...)
> 
> 3) When I run tkprof on the query it shows a full table scan ignoring the
> index... that's what I want 'cause it's cached.
> 
> 4) But when I look at V$SQLAREA the DISK_READS column is incremented.
> 
> 5) This query is executed very often so my StatsPack report lists it as one
> of the most expensive queries in terms of physical reads.
> 
> It appears that Oracle is counting full table scans of cached tables as
> DISK_READS in V$SQLAREA. Seems like this is a bug to me 'cause it's not
> really a physical disk read but is getting data from the buffers.
> 
> Don't you think this is a bug? Has anyone seen this before?
> 
> Steve Orr
> Looking for cache in Bozeman, Montana

Steve,

  First, as far as I understand it, to 'cache' a table is just to
specify that after a table scan the table blocks in memory will not be
prime candidate for recycling. It doesn't imply to me that the table is
pinned up there in physical memory. Do you know how many blocks your
table is made of? What percentage of db_block_buffers does it represent?
I see nothing shocking in having I/Os. Moreover do not forget consistent
reads (i.e. rollback segments). How can you be sure that your rollback
segment blocks stay in memory? Not to mention temporary segments and the
like.
  Second, it's not because a table is in memory that you should scorn
indexes. The index tells you, basically,that this row is at this
position in this block. Unless your table as been defined as a single,
char(1) (most of them null) table, 400,000 rows probably represent a
fair number of blocks and converting block number to memory address is
certainly far more efficient than scanning all the blocks in memory.

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Re: performance

2002-07-01 Thread Greg Moore

Nalla,

Is your database currently using a single RAID 5 device only?  Or what?  How
many separate disk devices does your database use?


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RE: Remove numbers from string

2002-07-01 Thread Kirsch, Walter J (Northrop Grumman)

Actually, it's simpler to use the trick

select translate('abc123def432', '~1234567890','~') from dual;

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Yes, use regular expressions via the owa_pattern package.

Here's an example:

declare
   tstr varchar2(100) := 'this c34ontains s0239everal 2340 numeric 882 
dig2its';
begin
   dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
   -- remove the digits
   owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\d', '', 'g');
   dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
   -- remove the extra spaces
   owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\s+', ' ', 'g');
   dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
end;
/

Jared





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Is there any way to remove all numbers from a string?

The string might look like this: 'abc123def432' 
and I wan't it to look like this: 'abcdef'.

I'm using Oracle 8.


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Re: Asynchronous Procedure Calls

2002-07-01 Thread Scott Canaan

That is true, I have figured it out.  dbms_job will allow the asynchronous
execution of procedures and dbms_pipe allows the communication between the
processes to occur.  It works.  I'm doing it now.  The jobs are being kicked
off in groups of 10 and they are sending a message back to the calling program
via pipes.  Each job has it's own pipe, so the main program can keep track of
who is done.  Currently, I am waiting for all 10 to complete before starting
the next 10, but I may work on a way to start the eleventh job when the first
one finishes.  I'm just glad that I got something to work.

Thank you for your help.

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> async communications.
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> Jared
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> Advanced Queuing will do what you need.
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> There are examples at otn.oracle.com
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Oracle client won't install on Windows 2000

2002-07-01 Thread Schauss, Peter

One of our developers is having a problem installing Oracle Client
(8.1.7).  When he inserts the CD the initial screen comes up with the
options to Install/Deinstall products, Explore CD, Browse Documentation.
When he clicks on Install/Deinstall, however the Oracle Installer never
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Re: Questionable V$SQLAREA Statistics

2002-07-01 Thread Greg Moore

What version of Oracle?

> 1) I have a 400,000 row table table which is cached.

How has the table been cached?  Alter table XXX cache?  Or with a KEEP
buffer?

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Re: How to read REDO log

2002-07-01 Thread Michael Sale

You can use logminer against an 8.0 database:

See metalink note 62508.1 in the "features" section:

It is possible to generate a Dictionary file from an
8.0.database and use it to Analyze Oracle 8.0 redo
logs. In order to do this run "dbmslogmnrd.sql"
against the 8.0 database, then follow the procedure as
below. All analysis of the logfiles will have to take
place while connected to an 8.1 database since
dbms_logmnr cannot operate against Oracle 8.0 because
it uses trusted callouts.

Regards,

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> LogMiner only works for Oracle8.1 or above, is it
> correct?  Is there another
> tool to read REDO log besides LogMiner?
>  
> Thanks,
> David
> 


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RE: Questionable V$SQLAREA Statistics

2002-07-01 Thread Khedr, Waleed

What is the degree of parallelism on this table?

Waleed

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Here's the scene:

1) I have a 400,000 row table table which is cached.

2) I have a query against that table and no other with one column referenced
in the WHERE clause. (This column is indexed and of course I don't really
need the index since the table is cached but it's there so ho hum...)

3) When I run tkprof on the query it shows a full table scan ignoring the
index... that's what I want 'cause it's cached.

4) But when I look at V$SQLAREA the DISK_READS column is incremented.

5) This query is executed very often so my StatsPack report lists it as one
of the most expensive queries in terms of physical reads.


It appears that Oracle is counting full table scans of cached tables as
DISK_READS in V$SQLAREA. Seems like this is a bug to me 'cause it's not
really a physical disk read but is getting data from the buffers. 

Don't you think this is a bug? Has anyone seen this before?


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RE: Asynchronous Procedure Calls

2002-07-01 Thread Khedr, Waleed

Hi Jared,

Why? The caller will resume operation once it submits the job for immediate
execution.

Am I missing something?

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DBMS_JOB will not solve the problem of
async communications.

Jared






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You need dbms_job(s)
Also make sure you have enough background job processes to handle the
expected maximum number of concurrent procedure calls.

Regards,

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Advanced Queuing will do what you need.

There are examples at otn.oracle.com

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am using dbms_pipe for the communication between the calling procedure
and the called procedure and that seems to be working.  What I want to
do is call the procedure multiple times, asynchronously, from the main
procedure.  The problem is that Oracle waits for each call to complete
before continuing processing.  Is there any way to do this in PL/SQL?
My environment is: Oracle 8.1.7.0.0, Sun Solaris 2.8.  I need to do
this in PL/SQL because it has to run through Oracle Warehouse Builder.

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RE: system event waits

2002-07-01 Thread K Gopalakrishnan

John:

There is an undocumented package thru which you can reset few of the
timings. (It resets the timing info in X$KCFIO and the MAX_WAIT_TIME
(!) in the V$SESSION/SYSTEM event views.


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RE: Asynchronous Procedure Calls

2002-07-01 Thread Jared . Still

DBMS_JOB will not solve the problem of
async communications.

Jared






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Also make sure you have enough background job processes to handle the
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Advanced Queuing will do what you need.

There are examples at otn.oracle.com

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I have a need to call a procedure repeatedly and asynchronously.  I
am using dbms_pipe for the communication between the calling procedure
and the called procedure and that seems to be working.  What I want to
do is call the procedure multiple times, asynchronously, from the main
procedure.  The problem is that Oracle waits for each call to complete
before continuing processing.  Is there any way to do this in PL/SQL?
My environment is: Oracle 8.1.7.0.0, Sun Solaris 2.8.  I need to do
this in PL/SQL because it has to run through Oracle Warehouse Builder.

Thank you.

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Questionable V$SQLAREA Statistics

2002-07-01 Thread Orr, Steve

Here's the scene:

1) I have a 400,000 row table table which is cached.

2) I have a query against that table and no other with one column referenced
in the WHERE clause. (This column is indexed and of course I don't really
need the index since the table is cached but it's there so ho hum...)

3) When I run tkprof on the query it shows a full table scan ignoring the
index... that's what I want 'cause it's cached.

4) But when I look at V$SQLAREA the DISK_READS column is incremented.

5) This query is executed very often so my StatsPack report lists it as one
of the most expensive queries in terms of physical reads.


It appears that Oracle is counting full table scans of cached tables as
DISK_READS in V$SQLAREA. Seems like this is a bug to me 'cause it's not
really a physical disk read but is getting data from the buffers. 

Don't you think this is a bug? Has anyone seen this before?


Steve Orr
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RE: Remove numbers from string

2002-07-01 Thread Grabowy, Chris

JS,

Doesn't that owa_pattern package come from the PL/SQL Web Toolkit, which
requires that you have the Oracle App Server licensed??

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Yes, use regular expressions via the owa_pattern package.

Here's an example:

declare
   tstr varchar2(100) := 'this c34ontains s0239everal 2340 numeric 882 
dig2its';
begin
   dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
   -- remove the digits
   owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\d', '', 'g');
   dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
   -- remove the extra spaces
   owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\s+', ' ', 'g');
   dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
end;
/

Jared





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Is there any way to remove all numbers from a string?

The string might look like this: 'abc123def432' 
and I wan't it to look like this: 'abcdef'.

I'm using Oracle 8.


Thanks in advance!

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RE: Oracle DBA with TS SCI Clearance Needed in Dayton, Ohio..

2002-07-01 Thread Jared . Still

Seems relevant to me.

Jared






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Actually, getting a certain type of Oracle job is not OT.

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217
> -Original Message-
> From:  Johnson, Michael  [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:  Thursday, June 27, 2002 5:33 PM
> To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:   RE: Oracle DBA with TS SCI Clearance Needed in 
Dayton,
> Ohio..
> 
> I would suggest we take this thread off
> line as it really is irrelevant with what
> this list is for.
> 
> Jared, correct me if Im wrong.
> 
> Mike
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> Get a job requiring the clearance, either as a direct government 
employee
> or
> as a contractor.
> 
> Scott Shafer
> San Antonio, TX
> 210-581-6217
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:Freeman, Robert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:Thursday, June 27, 2002 4:39 PM
> > To:  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: Oracle DBA with TS SCI Clearance Needed in 
Dayton,
> > Ohio..
> > 
> > For the curious around, does anyone know how one would do such a 
thing?
> > 
> > RF
> > 
> > Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
> > Oracle Database Architect
> > CSX Midtier Database Administration
> > Author: Oracle9i New Features 
> > Mastering Oracle8i 
> > 
> > Clark Griswold: Eddie, has anyone ever told you that you're bad luck?
> > Cousin Eddie: Those were my mother's dying words. But I
> > guess if your body's covered in third degree burns, and 
> > your foot's caught in a bear trap, you tend to start talkin' 
> > crazy.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
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> > 
> > Don't.  Its not worth the hassle.
> > 
> > Scott Shafer
> > San Antonio, TX
> > 210-581-6217
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From:  Michael Cupp [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent:  Thursday, June 27, 2002 1:53 PM
> > > To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject:   RE: Oracle DBA with TS SCI Clearance Needed in 
Dayton,
> > > Ohio..
> > > 
> > > How would one begin the process of getting one?  Or does it have to 
be
> > > government sponsored?
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:35 PM
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > It is my understanding that it currently takes 1.5 to 2 years to get
> > this
> > > clearence mainly due to events of 9/11. So, if you have one, it
> behooves
> > > you to keep it current.
> > > 
> > > They used to estimate these clearences were worth
> > > an additional $10K a year for salary.   Im thinking
> > > at least $25K now.Alot of  my friends that have
> > > these clearances , whether they be DBAs, programmers,
> > > Sys. Ads. etc, have standing offers for work in many
> > > places around the world due to the fact these clearances
> > > are very hard to get.
> > > 
> > > Also,  the companies will not foot the bill for this
> > > delay.  The government usually has to approve all hires
> > > where the individual is not cleared.  From what I have
> > > seen the government is in no mood to do this as of
> > > late.
> > > 
> > > FWIW !
> > > 
> > > Mike
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:54 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I don't understand the large number of positions coming out that
> require
> > 
> > > a CURRENT Secret or Top Secret clearance.  How can all these 
positions
> 
> > > be filled unless these company/entities start footing the bill for 
> > > people getting the clearances?!?
> > > 
> > > Johnson, Michael wrote:
> > > 
> > > >That is not my understanding.
> > > >
> > > >FWIW.  Mike
> > > >
> > > >-Original Message-
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Actually no one who has been holds any SCI tickets can admit to 
doing
> 
> > > >so :) One can say you have been the subject of a Special Backgroud 
> > > >Investigation, and Extensive Background Investigation, a Full Field 

> > > >Investigation even though 99. times out of 100 these
> investigations
> > 
> > > >are done for just such access.
> > > >
> > > >Ian MacGregor
> > > >Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-Original Message-
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> > > >To: Multiple recipients of li

Re: Remove numbers from string

2002-07-01 Thread Jared . Still

Yes, use regular expressions via the owa_pattern package.

Here's an example:

declare
   tstr varchar2(100) := 'this c34ontains s0239everal 2340 numeric 882 
dig2its';
begin
   dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
   -- remove the digits
   owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\d', '', 'g');
   dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
   -- remove the extra spaces
   owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\s+', ' ', 'g');
   dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
end;
/

Jared





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Is there any way to remove all numbers from a string?

The string might look like this: 'abc123def432' 
and I wan't it to look like this: 'abcdef'.

I'm using Oracle 8.


Thanks in advance!

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RE: Database Hung with all processes waiting on locks

2002-07-01 Thread John Kanagaraj

Mary,

> We don't plan to use MTS for 11i just during the AUTOUPGRADE 
> process from 10.7 to 11i.  We found that it runs 20% faster 
> with MTS because the workers logon/off thousands of times.   
> 
> And yes MTS is configured with with large pool.   Thanks for 
> the feedback.

Did Oracle Support suggest that you use MTS? If not, such problems may not
be looked at in case you get stuck with an iTAR during an upgrade. I would
look at using 11.5.7 which supposedly has a script that could check which
scripts need not run.

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RE: Frequent ''ORA -1650: unable to extend rollback segment error

2002-07-01 Thread Miller, Jay

Have you checked if someone might be holding space in the rollback segment
you're getting the error for?  We had a similar problem two weeks ago which
we resolved by killing the session that was holding the space (oddly, they
weren't holding any locks so I don't know why they were holding RBS space).
You can use this script (from the remarkably useful SQL & PL/SQL Annotated
Archives) to find out:

column rr heading 'RB Segment' format a18
column us heading 'Username' format a15
column os heading 'OS User' format a10
column te heading 'Terminal' format a10
select R.name rr,
NVL(S.Username, 'no transaction') us,
S.Osuser os,
S.Terminal te
from v$lock l, v$session s, v$rollname r
where l.sid=s.sid(+)
and trunc(l.id1/65536)=r.usn
and l.type='TX'
and l.lmode=6
order by r.name;

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errors'' in the



 Hi All,





 For the last 10-12 days Database is giving frequent ORA 1650 errors. My
 Database size is 74 GB and Total No. of Rollback segments are 19, with 
 Initial Extent 60MB, Next extent 60MB, MIN_EXTENTS 2, MAX_EXTENTS 505. 
 There are 2 Tablespaces holding these Rollback segments( 4GB and 1 GB) 
 There is no extra load on the database. I am really worried why this   
 problem has been started all of a sudden.  
 The rollback segment statistics is showing high number of Waits and wrap.  
 For few rollback segments wait statistics it is exceeding even 100 which I 
 have never seen. and now because of this few importants reports are
 aborted.   



 Mon Jun 24 00:49:48 2002   
 Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 5416 
 Current log# 2 seq# 5416 mem# 0: /oracle05/oradata/GASPROD/redo02.log  
 Mon Jun 24 00:49:55 2002   
 ORA-1650: unable to extend rollback segment RBS12 by 7680 in tablespace
 RBS

 Failure to extend rollback segment 12 because of 1650 condition
 Mon Jun 24 00:52:33 2002   
 Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 5417 
 Current log# 1 seq# 5417 mem# 0: /oracle05/oradata/GASPROD/redo01.log  
 Mon Jun 24 00:56:24 2002   
 Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 5418 







Kindly suggest if anybody has some clue.

Regards
deepender





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RE: system event waits

2002-07-01 Thread John Kanagaraj

> Depending on the version of the database, timed_statistics 
> may be dynamic
> and
> not require a database bounce.

True - but the timing values are meaningless unless the counters
(TOTAL_WAITS and TOTAL_TIMEOUTS) are reset. Only a bounce  resets the
counters and switches on timing at the same time I wouldn't recommend
using the time values otherwise.

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RE: system event waits

2002-07-01 Thread Freeman, Robert

Depending on the version of the database, timed_statistics may be dynamic
and
not require a database bounce.

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
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That TIMED_STATISTICS is defaulted to FALSE... To obtain any meaningful
information from Wait stats, this needs to be set to TRUE (followed by a Db
bounce).
 
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Hi List ,
In system_event i find total_waits , total_timeouts , time_waited and
avg_wait . If total_waits and total_timeouts are high but there are 0 value
for time_waited and avg_wait . What does this indicates ?
 
TIA
-Bp

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RE: Asynchronous Procedure Calls

2002-07-01 Thread Khedr, Waleed

You need dbms_job(s)
Also make sure you have enough background job processes to handle the
expected maximum number of concurrent procedure calls.

Regards,

Waleed

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Advanced Queuing will do what you need.

There are examples at otn.oracle.com

Jared






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I have a need to call a procedure repeatedly and asynchronously.  I
am using dbms_pipe for the communication between the calling procedure
and the called procedure and that seems to be working.  What I want to
do is call the procedure multiple times, asynchronously, from the main
procedure.  The problem is that Oracle waits for each call to complete
before continuing processing.  Is there any way to do this in PL/SQL?
My environment is: Oracle 8.1.7.0.0, Sun Solaris 2.8.  I need to do
this in PL/SQL because it has to run through Oracle Warehouse Builder.

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RE: Perl for Oracle DBAs....wow.

2002-07-01 Thread Orr, Steve

How to Get Free Drinks for DBA's:
1) Place bar tab and carbon paper under title page...
2) Feign adoration of esteemed author...
3) Get "autograph" on title page.   :-)


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The autograph is free.  :)

Jared


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Well I'll be dang...check out what book is now listed on Amazon...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596002106/qid=1025287397/sr=1-20/ref
=sr_1_20/102-7873510-7493740


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Re: Locked rows - finding out

2002-07-01 Thread Mario J Gonzalez

Hi, Vladimir

You can made a join between the table in question and v$session:

select a.*
from table_xx a, v$session s
where
 dbms_rowid.ROWID_ROW_NUMBER(a.rowid)=s.ROW_WAIT_ROW#
and dbms_rowid.ROWID_BLOCK_NUMBER(a.rowid)=s.ROW_WAIT_BLOCK#
and dbms_rowid.ROWID_RELATIVE_FNO(a.rowid)=s.ROW_WAIT_FILE#
and s.sid=&sid
;

Mario.



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Hello listers

By quering V$LOCK or V$LOCKED_OBJECT I may find which tables are locked.

How do I see rowids of rows that are locked? And how do I see into what
rollback segment is being used by transaction that placed locks on those
rows?



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RE: Perl for Oracle DBAs....wow.

2002-07-01 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Jared,

Congratulations on getting the book out!  Looking forward to getting my copy
when it is available!

Tom Mercadante
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The autograph is free.  :)

Jared





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RE: Perl for Oracle DBAs....wow.

2002-07-01 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Oh.  I was talking about Andy Duncan's autograph...but I guess you can sign
it too...on the inside back cover or something(big grin)

Just kidding.  I'm looking forward to getting the book.

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RE: How to read REDO log

2002-07-01 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: ORA-27101 Error



alter system dump logfile   will let 
you decode the contents of a redo logfile to a text file. Remember, by text 
file, I do not mean it is a verbose text, but much more understandable compared 
to the encoded redo log file.
 
Please make sure that background_dump_dest points to a directory that has 
enough space available, I have seen examples of a 5MB redo file creating a trace 
file about 5 times it size. You may also need to set max_dump_file_size 
appropriately (to unlimited).
 
I read all this information in an article written by Graham Thornton 
date 9/26/2000.
 
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personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. 
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RE: system event waits

2002-07-01 Thread John Kanagaraj

That TIMED_STATISTICS is defaulted to FALSE... To obtain any meaningful
information from Wait stats, this needs to be set to TRUE (followed by a Db
bounce).
 
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Hi List ,
In system_event i find total_waits , total_timeouts , time_waited and
avg_wait . If total_waits and total_timeouts are high but there are 0 value
for time_waited and avg_wait . What does this indicates ?
 
TIA
-Bp

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RE: Database Hung with all processes waiting on locks

2002-07-01 Thread Tortorelli, Mary Jo

John,

We don't plan to use MTS for 11i just during the AUTOUPGRADE process from 10.7 to 11i. 
 We found that it runs 20% faster with MTS because the workers logon/off thousands of 
times.   

And yes MTS is configured with with large pool.   Thanks for the feedback.

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Mary Jo,

Are you sure that MTS is supported in 11i (or at least in an upgrade)? My
understanding is that it is not - the work required is just too heavy for
MTS As a start, you could take out MTS, and try and use IPC if it your
APPL_TOP and Oracle DB are on the same server. There is an incredibly _huge_
number of jobs to be run through the workers and tons of SQL is loaded. I
wouldn't be surprised by lib cache/row cache related waits. How many workers
did you use? The recommendation is # of cpus + 2, although I would bump that
number up just a little. Is LARGE_POOL_SIZE configured?

More questions than answers, but I hope this shines a light in the right
direction!

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> 
> 
> We were running 11i Autoupgrade (from 10.7) on HP-UX 8.1.7.3 
> 64-bit Oracle.
> 
> Yesterday the database hung with every session having a 
> WAITING status in v$session_wait.  The MTS processes were 
> 'rdbms ipc message', several workers were waiting on 'row 
> cache lock' and 'library cache pin' and background processes 
> on 'pmon timer'.   
> 
> I flushed the shared pool but it didn't help.  I did a trace 
> level 10 dump and recycled the database.  Recycling worked 
> but now I'm trying to figure out what may have happened.  I 
> don't know how to interpret the trace file to glean a cause.
> 
> Any ideas or advice are welcome.  I wonder if the workers 
> stepped on each other or MTS somehow got hosed.  There were 
> 18 active workers.   Some samples from the trace file below.
> 
> Thanks in advance!!!
> 
> 
>   SO: c000e81e8ce0, type: 3, owner: c000ed03f580, 
> pt: 0, flag: INIT/-/-/0x00
>   (session) trans: 0, creator: c000ed03f580, flag: 
> (8e5) USR/- BSY/-/-/-/-/-
> DID: 0001-002B-0ACD, short-term DID: 
> --
> txn branch: 0
> oct: 0, prv: 0, user: 51/APPS
>   O/S info: user: applmgr, term: pts/tb, ospid: 11226, 
> machine: hr03
> program:
>   client info:
>0
>   waiting for 'library cache pin' blocking sess=0x0 
> seq=38949 wait_time=0
>   handle address=c001133639f0, pin 
> address=c000ed159bf8, 10*mode+namespace=1e
> --
>  SO: c000e81bcde0, type: 3, owner: c000e815c3a8, 
> pt: 0, flag: INIT/-/-/0x00
> (session) trans: 0, creator: c000e815c3a8, flag: (51) 
> USR/- BSY/-/-/-/-/-
>   DID: 0001-0002-0002, short-term DID: 
> --
>   txn branch: 0
>   oct: 0, prv: 0, user: 0/SYS
> waiting for 'pmon timer' blocking sess=0x0 seq=7330 wait_time=0
> duration=12c, =0, =0
> 
> SO: c000e81d10e0, type: 3, owner: c000e815e958, 
> pt: 0, flag: INIT/-/-/0x00
> (session) trans: 0, creator: c000e815e958, flag: (41) 
> USR/- BSY/-/-/-/-/-
>   DID: 0001-000B-1AA1, short-term DID: 
> --
>   txn branch: 0
>   oct: 0, prv: 0, user: 0/
> O/S info: user: , term: , ospid: , machine:
>   program:
> waiting for 'row cache lock' blocking sess=0x0 seq=2114 
> wait_time=0
> cache id=7, mode=0, request=3
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Re: Perl for Oracle DBAs....wow.

2002-07-01 Thread Jared . Still

The autograph is free.  :)

Jared





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Re: ORA-600 during replication

2002-07-01 Thread Jared . Still

Better look again.

I got 4 hits on 'ora-600 ktbdchk1'

Jared





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Good morning / afternoon/ evening (depending on your position)...

Alert log has following lines...

Tue Jun 25 10:07:30 2002
Errors in file E:\Oracle\admin\vurs\bdump\vursSNP2.TRC:
ORA-12012: error on auto execute of job 123
ORA-12008: error in snapshot refresh path
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [ktbdchk1: bad dscn], [], [], 
[],
[],
[], [], []
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_SNAPSHOT", line 617
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_SNAPSHOT", line 674
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_IREFRESH", line 577
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_REFRESH", line 211
ORA-06512: at line 1

What the hell is going on? I tried to do some search on metalink, but to 
no
avail.

Hate to say this, but it is kind of urgernt!

Regards,
Vladimir Barac

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Re: Hints being ignored

2002-07-01 Thread Jared . Still

Lee, Lee, Lee...

This is a serious RTFM question.  :)

It should read:

SELECT /*+ INDEX(d CONSUMER_COMM_D2C_PK) */ 


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All
 
Oracle 8.0.5.0.0
 
Tru64 4.0f
 
Select statement as follows. The hint is being totally ignored. Any ideas 
??
 
Regards
 
Lee
 
SELECT /*+ INDEX(CONSUMER_COMM_D2C CONSUMER_COMM_D2C_PK) */ 
i.household_id 
|| '|' || 'd'
|| '|' || d.promotion_item_id
|| '|' || xp.campaign_id
|| '|' || xp.document_id
|| '|' || xp.segment
|| '|' || xd.contact_type_code
|| '|'
FROM genex_individual i
, consumer_comm_d2c d
, x_promotion_item xp
, x_document xd
WHERE i.brief_name = '$brief_name'
AND i.individual_id = d.consumer_id
AND d.promotion_item_id = xp.promotion_item_id
AND xp.document_id = xd.document_id
ORDER
BY i.household_id
;
 
Table CONSUMER_COMM_D2C is as follows
 
NameNull?Type
 ---  
 CONSUMER_ID NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 PROMOTION_ITEM_ID   NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 COMMUNICATION_DATE  NOT NULL DATE
 COMMUNICATION_STATUS_CODEVARCHAR2(2)
 COMMUNICATION_DETAIL VARCHAR2(500)
 BLOCK_LDT   NOT NULL DATE
 ROW_CHANGE_SOURCE   NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 ROW_CHANGE_TIME  DATE
 ROW_CHANGE_USERIDVARCHAR2(50)
 
Index CONSUMER_COMM_D2C_PK  is built as follows
 
consumer_id
promotion_item_id
communication_date.
 
The table is partitioned on promotion_item_id and the indexes on the 
partitions are local
 
Explain plan is as follows
 
Operation Object Name Rows Bytes Cost TQ In/Out PStart PStop
SELECT STATEMENT 1440 G 106 G 
SORT ORDER BY 1440 G 171770G 106 G 
MERGE JOIN 1440 G 171770G 17 M 
SORT JOIN 13 M 1G 300284 
HASH JOIN 13 M 1G 10271 
TABLE ACCESS FULL X_PROMOTION_ITEM 7 K 409 K 10 
MERGE JOIN CARTESIAN 2 M 90 M 3206 
TABLE ACCESS FULL X_DOCUMENT 1 K 25 K 6 
SORT JOIN 1 K 31 K 3200 
TABLE ACCESS FULL GENEX_INDIVIDUAL 1 K 31 K 2 
SORT JOIN 1 G 39G 17 M 
PARTITION CONCATENATED 1 26
TABLE ACCESS FULL CONSUMER_COMM_D2C 1 G 39G 1352283 1 26
 


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Re: Asynchronous Procedure Calls

2002-07-01 Thread Jared . Still

Advanced Queuing will do what you need.

There are examples at otn.oracle.com

Jared






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I have a need to call a procedure repeatedly and asynchronously.  I
am using dbms_pipe for the communication between the calling procedure
and the called procedure and that seems to be working.  What I want to
do is call the procedure multiple times, asynchronously, from the main
procedure.  The problem is that Oracle waits for each call to complete
before continuing processing.  Is there any way to do this in PL/SQL?
My environment is: Oracle 8.1.7.0.0, Sun Solaris 2.8.  I need to do
this in PL/SQL because it has to run through Oracle Warehouse Builder.

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RE: control file I/O significantly changed

2002-07-01 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: control file I/O significantly changed





I am using Oracle 8.1.7.3


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Paula,


It would help if you told us which version you are using and seeing
this change in. I believe that with 9i more is written to the control
files. I  know that if you are using RMAN this is the case


You can also dump the control files to see what is in them. Are they
larger than they used to be?


Rachel



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>  
> It appears to me that control files are being written to continously
> versus
> only during checkpoints.  I.E. the I/O behaviour of control files has
> changed significantly.  Does anyone have any good doc. on this?  Is
> it an
> intentional architectural change?  
>  
> Thanks,
> Paula
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RE: How to read REDO log

2002-07-01 Thread Mandal, Ashoke
Title: RE: ORA-27101 Error



I 
think you can do this being in a 8i database.

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  to read REDO log
  Can I setup LogMiner to read REDO log of 
  Oracle8.0.5?  Someone tells me LogMiner only works for Oracle8.1 or 
  above, is it correct?  Is there another tool to read REDO log 
  besides LogMiner?
   
  Thanks,David


RE: Oracle8i Upgrade Exam Material

2002-07-01 Thread Freeman, Robert

The Oracle8i New Features For Administrators Exam Cram by Robert Freeman
(Tours Truly)
is available on Amazon. Not that I get a dime of royalty out of it
anymore :-(

RF

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
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Mastering Oracle8i    

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I am going to be taking the Oracle8i: New Features for Administrators
(1Z0-020) exam and am looking for study materials. Can anyone recommend and
books for this exam? Thanks

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How to read REDO log

2002-07-01 Thread Nguyen, David M
Title: RE: ORA-27101 Error



Can I setup LogMiner to read REDO log of 
Oracle8.0.5?  Someone tells me LogMiner only works for Oracle8.1 or above, 
is it correct?  Is there another tool to read REDO log besides 
LogMiner?
 
Thanks,David


system event waits

2002-07-01 Thread BigP



Hi List ,
In system_event i find total_waits , total_timeouts 
, time_waited and avg_wait . If total_waits and total_timeouts are high but 
there are 0 value for time_waited and avg_wait . What does this indicates 
?
 
TIA
-Bp


RE: Hints being ignored

2002-07-01 Thread Connor McDonald

Are you sure?  I've seen two very common examples in
the past which lead people to think that hints are
ignored when in fact they have not been:


Example 1:

In SQL, select /*+HINT*/ will work, but in PL/SQL,
select /*+HINT*/ fails since the space trailing the +
is missing.

Example 2:

select /*+ USE_MERGE(e) */ ...
from DEPT d, EMP e

can come back with a hash join - but the hint has NOT
been ignored, it has been 'avoided'.  USE_MERGE simply
says if EMP is the *target* in the join, then make
sure its a sort-merge.  That of course does not stop
EMP being the *driver* table in a hash join.

hth
connor

 --- "Miller, Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do you know in what version this became the case?  I
> certainly remember some
> hints being ignored in version 8.0.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> A hint is absolutely, positively a DIRECTIVE, not a
> suggestion.
> 
> Jonathan can explain if you have doubts.
> 
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 7:08 PM
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> 
> Hints used to be more like that.
> 
> hints are more like "do it" nowadays, their
> aggressiveness has gone up.
> 
> joe
> 
> 
> basher 59 wrote:
> 
> > When putting in hints, remember this bit of
> advise.   A hint is just a
> 
> > hint.  Oracle may choose today to use your hit and
> tomorrow it may 
> > not.   I don't like using hints for this reason,
> and I usually try and
> 
> > rewrite the query if I can.   Have you analyzed
> the table lately.  If 
> > the table is not analyzed, it may not use the
> indexes.
> >
> >
> >> From: Robertson Lee - lerobe
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: Hints being ignored
> >> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:13:19 -0800
> >>
> >> All
> >>
> >> Oracle 8.0.5.0.0
> >>
> >> Tru64 4.0f
> >>
> >> Select statement as follows. The hint is being
> totally ignored. Any 
> >> ideas ??
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Lee
> >>
> >> SELECT /*+ INDEX(CONSUMER_COMM_D2C
> CONSUMER_COMM_D2C_PK) */
> >> i.household_id
> >> || '|' || 'd'
> >> || '|' || d.promotion_item_id
> >> || '|' || xp.campaign_id
> >> || '|' || xp.document_id
> >> || '|' || xp.segment
> >> || '|' || xd.contact_type_code
> >> || '|'
> >> FROM genex_individual i
> >> , consumer_comm_d2c d
> >> , x_promotion_item xp
> >> , x_document xd
> >> WHERE i.brief_name = '$brief_name'
> >> AND i.individual_id = d.consumer_id
> >> AND d.promotion_item_id = xp.promotion_item_id
> >> AND xp.document_id = xd.document_id
> >> ORDER
> >> BY i.household_id
> >> ;
> >>
> >> Table CONSUMER_COMM_D2C is as follows
> >>
> >> NameNull?Type
> >>  ---  
> >>  CONSUMER_ID NOT NULL
> NUMBER(9)
> >>  PROMOTION_ITEM_ID   NOT NULL
> NUMBER(9)
> >>  COMMUNICATION_DATE  NOT NULL DATE
> >>  COMMUNICATION_STATUS_CODE   
> VARCHAR2(2)
> >>  COMMUNICATION_DETAIL
> VARCHAR2(500)
> >>  BLOCK_LDT   NOT NULL DATE
> >>  ROW_CHANGE_SOURCE   NOT NULL
> NUMBER(9)
> >>  ROW_CHANGE_TIME  DATE
> >>  ROW_CHANGE_USERID   
> VARCHAR2(50)
> >>
> >> Index CONSUMER_COMM_D2C_PK  is built as follows
> >>
> >> consumer_id
> >> promotion_item_id
> >> communication_date.
> >>
> >> The table is partitioned on promotion_item_id and
> the indexes on the
> >> partitions are local
> >>
> >> Explain plan is as follows
> >>
> >>
> >> Operation Object Name Rows Bytes Cost TQ
> In/Out PStart PStop
> >>
> >> SELECT STATEMENT 1440 G 106 G
> >>
> >> SORT ORDER BY 1440 G 171770G 106 G
> >>
> >> MERGE JOIN 1440 G 171770G 17 M
> >>
> >> SORT JOIN 13 M 1G 300284
> >>
> >> HASH JOIN 13 M 1G 10271
> >>
> >> TABLE ACCESS FULL X_PROMOTION_ITEM 7 K 409 K
> 10
> >>
> >> MERGE JOIN CARTESIAN 2 M 90 M 3206
> >>
> >> TABLE ACCESS FULL X_DOCUMENT 1 K 25 K 6
> >>
> >> SORT JOIN 1 K 31 K 3200
> >>
> >> TABLE ACCESS FULL GENEX_INDIVIDUAL 1 K 31 K 2
> >>
> >> SORT JOIN 1 G 39G 17 M
> >>
> >> PARTITION CONCATENATED 1 26
> >>
> >> TABLE ACCESS FULL CONSUMER_COMM_D2C 1 G 39G
> 1352283 1 26
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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RE: RE: WebLogic, Oracle JDBC related

2002-07-01 Thread Ji, Richard

understood. :)

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Just a poor choice of words on my part...

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> Just curious, why recode just to switch drivers?
> You can put the jdbc driver class and url in a .properties file
> and load it from there.  And keep url for both oci and thin in
> there and just comment out the one you don't use.
> 
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> 
> That is correct, at least as far as 8.1.7 is concerned.  We had to
> recode our applications to use the jdbc:oci8 driver instead of
> jdbc:thin.
> 
> Brian
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> I've also heard that thick driver is required for TAF (Transparent
> Application Failover).  Can someone confirm or refute this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Gerardo
> 
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> 
> 
> The pure java thin driver is supposed to be faster because it does 
> not 
> incur a context switch between the oci and java, while the thick 
> driver 
> has better lob support.
> 
> JDBC 3.0 is supposed to have improved lob support as well as 
> pooling, 
> but I don't believe the weblogic server can take advantage of it 
> yet...
> Suzy Vordos wrote:
> > IIRC, the WebLogic server startup script contains the 
> path/filename of
> > which weblogic.properties file that is used, and it's passed as a
> > command-line argument.  
> > 
> > At a previous job, one application we had used two properties files
> > (Tim's gonna like this one :).  One was weblogic.properties 
config'd
> > with connection pooling and JDBC Thin.  The other was
> > application.properties, no connection pooling and JDBC OCI.  The
> > developer's reason?  JDBC OCI was used to work with LOBs, and all
> other
> > database calls used JDBC Thin.  It never made sense to me, but then
> I'm
> > not a Java developer either.
> > 
> > "Deshpande, Kirti" wrote:
> > 
> >>Thank you all who responded. I really appreciate it very much.
> >>I am learning something new from you.
> >>
> >>I think I have enough 'ammunition' to ask some good(?) 
> questions. I
> found
> >>out that on one of the App servers, they use multiple 
> programs(Java?)to
> >>support the Web traffic. There are multiple weblogic.properties 
> files.Some
> >>have connection pooling setup (initialCapacity=3|1|5 maxCapacity=41
> with
> >>increments of 2|1|3 and such) while others don't. The CLASSPATH 
> seemsto
> be
> >>a mile long! My hunch is that the App is releasing the entire
> connection
> >>pool and establishing it again when a new request comes along. That
> may be
> >>keeping the listener on the database servers very busy all the 
> times.>>
> >>Following is a typical entry for Connection Pooling. No other
> properties
> are
> >>defined for any other pools (related to shrink, refreshes etc), at
> least I
> >>did not find them in other properties files..
> >>
> >>weblogic.jdbc.connectionPool.summaryPool_A=\
> >>   url=jdbc:oracle:thin:@rs001-cs1:1541:AS1TRP,\
> >>   driver=oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver,\
> >>   initialCapacity=3,\
> >>   maxCapacity=41,\
> >>   capacityIncrement=2,\
> >>   props=user=;password=
> >>
> >>Thank you very much...
> >>
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Re: performance

2002-07-01 Thread Tim Gorman

I didn't mean to be so stiff on the reply -- sorry for that...

The most common issues in the redo stream are certainly sizing and I/O.
Yes, it can be quite cut-and-dried.  But Ravi merely mentioned that
"performance was slower" after enabling ARCHIVELOG mode and for all we know,
it truly may have nothing to do with the redo logging stream whatsoever.  It
could be something else (i.e. bad SQL that someone recently slammed in at
the same time) that neither Ravi (nor we) are aware of.  It could be
anything at all...

So, making changes in the complete absence of information can easily end up
with the following scenario:  Ravi makes the recommended changes (i.e. add
redo log groups, change group sizes, pester SysAdmins to create new
file-systems to separate online from archived destinations, etc), all with
no impact on performance.  Thus, his credibility is harmed, if not totally
destroyed.  Happens all the time...(8 million stories in the naked city)...

Better to look first, understand exactly what is happening, and act on real
information.

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> I've assumed, that nothing changed beside ARCHIVE LOG mode. "when Our DB
is
> non-archive mode that was ok,when we moved to Archive, it is dead slow"
> This directs to the question of I/O with archiving redo logs in first
turn.
> Doesn't it? What may be other direct performance issues of ARCHIVE LOG
mode?
> I admit that there is not enough information, which may easily make me
> mistaken. However, there should be some general setup for archive log
mode,
> and that's what I gave. General setup should be made before moving to
> archivelog mode and taken as basis for further tuning.
>
> Alexandre
>
> - Original Message -
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 2:43 PM
>
>
> > Alexandre,
> >
> > I beg to differ.
> >
> > You have assumed, in the complete absence of any information, that he
has
> an
> > I/O problem.  He might.  He also might not.  He should look first,
before
> > leaping.
> >
> > -Tim
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 1:53 AM
> >
> >
> > > Ravi,
> > >
> > > Make sure you have at least 5-10 redo log groups. That's depends on
your
> > > workload. You also may need to increase their size. Think how much log
> > info
> > > your database can generate and size your logs that it would be enough
> for
> > 10
> > > mins at least. (Of course that would be pretty rough estimation)
> > > Also make sure you put redo logs and arcived redo logs on differend
> disks!
> > > So that's for start. After, you may follow advice given in Tim's
reply.
> > >
> > > hth
> > > Alexandre
> > > - Original Message -
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 9:13 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > Can any one please give me some hints or tips when we
> > > > move to archive mode? when Our DB is non-archive mode
> > > > that was ok,when we moved to Archive, it is dead slow.
> > > >
> > > >  Obviosuly archive mode performance is slow, is there
> > > > any other precations to be taken care?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your help.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Ravi
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RE: ORA-27101 Error

2002-07-01 Thread Baker, Barbara

Tom:
I believe the problem is the same on Win as Unix.
Here are some notes  I made on this error.
hope they help.

Barb


> When you start the database, a key for the shared memory segment is
> calculated based on the contents of ORACLE_SID and ORACLE_HOME.  When you
> try to connect to the database, your process needs to find the shared
> memory
> segment.  It does so by matching your oracle_sid and oracle_home against
> this hashed key. (In the case of a network connection, it does this by
> using
> the oracle_sid and oracle_home in the listener.)
> 
> 
> Check to see how your environment was set when you started the database
> versus how it is set when you're trying to connect.  In particular, if the
> oracle_home path or the oracle_sid is different in any way,you'll get the
> messages
> 
>   ORA-01034: ORACLE not available
>   ORA-27101: shared memory realm does not exist
>   SVR4 Error: 2: No such file or directory
> 
> In my case, I had the sid as lower case for the session that started the
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> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Barb
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RE: Hints being ignored

2002-07-01 Thread Miller, Jay

Do you know in what version this became the case?  I certainly remember some
hints being ignored in version 8.0.

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A hint is absolutely, positively a DIRECTIVE, not a suggestion.

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Hints used to be more like that.

hints are more like "do it" nowadays, their aggressiveness has gone up.

joe


basher 59 wrote:

> When putting in hints, remember this bit of advise.   A hint is just a

> hint.  Oracle may choose today to use your hit and tomorrow it may 
> not.   I don't like using hints for this reason, and I usually try and

> rewrite the query if I can.   Have you analyzed the table lately.  If 
> the table is not analyzed, it may not use the indexes.
>
>
>> From: Robertson Lee - lerobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:13:19 -0800
>>
>> All
>>
>> Oracle 8.0.5.0.0
>>
>> Tru64 4.0f
>>
>> Select statement as follows. The hint is being totally ignored. Any 
>> ideas ??
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Lee
>>
>> SELECT /*+ INDEX(CONSUMER_COMM_D2C CONSUMER_COMM_D2C_PK) */
>> i.household_id
>> || '|' || 'd'
>> || '|' || d.promotion_item_id
>> || '|' || xp.campaign_id
>> || '|' || xp.document_id
>> || '|' || xp.segment
>> || '|' || xd.contact_type_code
>> || '|'
>> FROM genex_individual i
>> , consumer_comm_d2c d
>> , x_promotion_item xp
>> , x_document xd
>> WHERE i.brief_name = '$brief_name'
>> AND i.individual_id = d.consumer_id
>> AND d.promotion_item_id = xp.promotion_item_id
>> AND xp.document_id = xd.document_id
>> ORDER
>> BY i.household_id
>> ;
>>
>> Table CONSUMER_COMM_D2C is as follows
>>
>> NameNull?Type
>>  ---  
>>  CONSUMER_ID NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
>>  PROMOTION_ITEM_ID   NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
>>  COMMUNICATION_DATE  NOT NULL DATE
>>  COMMUNICATION_STATUS_CODEVARCHAR2(2)
>>  COMMUNICATION_DETAIL VARCHAR2(500)
>>  BLOCK_LDT   NOT NULL DATE
>>  ROW_CHANGE_SOURCE   NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
>>  ROW_CHANGE_TIME  DATE
>>  ROW_CHANGE_USERIDVARCHAR2(50)
>>
>> Index CONSUMER_COMM_D2C_PK  is built as follows
>>
>> consumer_id
>> promotion_item_id
>> communication_date.
>>
>> The table is partitioned on promotion_item_id and the indexes on the
>> partitions are local
>>
>> Explain plan is as follows
>>
>>
>> Operation Object Name Rows Bytes Cost TQ In/Out PStart PStop
>>
>> SELECT STATEMENT 1440 G 106 G
>>
>> SORT ORDER BY 1440 G 171770G 106 G
>>
>> MERGE JOIN 1440 G 171770G 17 M
>>
>> SORT JOIN 13 M 1G 300284
>>
>> HASH JOIN 13 M 1G 10271
>>
>> TABLE ACCESS FULL X_PROMOTION_ITEM 7 K 409 K 10
>>
>> MERGE JOIN CARTESIAN 2 M 90 M 3206
>>
>> TABLE ACCESS FULL X_DOCUMENT 1 K 25 K 6
>>
>> SORT JOIN 1 K 31 K 3200
>>
>> TABLE ACCESS FULL GENEX_INDIVIDUAL 1 K 31 K 2
>>
>> SORT JOIN 1 G 39G 17 M
>>
>> PARTITION CONCATENATED 1 26
>>
>> TABLE ACCESS FULL CONSUMER_COMM_D2C 1 G 39G 1352283 1 26
>>
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Re: Twin City OUG Meeting

2002-07-01 Thread Tim Gorman



Yup.  Talking about using STATSPACK 
with Oracle Apps...

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  Is anyone on this list going to attend the TCOUG meeting on 
  July 18th.?
   
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RE: ORA-27101 Error

2002-07-01 Thread Richard Huntley
Title: RE: ORA-27101 Error





Tom, initially try typing this at a command prompt
c:\>set|more


and look for ORACLE_SID and ORACLE_HOME in the list of system variables to make sure
these are set correctly.


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ORA-27101 = Shared Memory Realm is not available


I have seen references to this error and how to repair it on UNIX systems,
but what is to be done on Win2000 when this thing rears its ugly head?




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Failover

2002-07-01 Thread Kader Ben

Hi All,

   I have 11i running on OPS database with two
instances. I assigned each instance to group of
responsibilities but I have no idea how to configure
the FAILOVER. If one instance goes down I want the
user who has assigned this instance can transparently
connect to the other instance.
I'll appreciate any suggestion.

Thank you,

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Re: Perl for Oracle DBAs....wow.

2002-07-01 Thread Rodd Holman

Jared,

What's the possibility of seeing the Table of Contents, or an abstract
of this?  The title seems to have grabbed a lot of interest among us
all.

Rodd



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RE: Remove numbers from string

2002-07-01 Thread Richard Huntley
Title: RE: Remove numbers from string






select replace(translate('abcdefg123456hijkl12345abcd0','1234567890',' '),' ','')
from dual
/


REPLACE(TRANSLAT

abcdefghijklabcd


First, the numbers are translated into spaces, then the spaces are cleaned up, leaving the string
without numbers.



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Is there any way to remove all numbers from a string?


The string might look like this: 'abc123def432' 
and I wan't it to look like this: 'abcdef'.


I'm using Oracle 8.



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RE: How to handle embedded single quotes in procedure

2002-07-01 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Rick,

Actually, it should work fine unless you are using dynamix sql, in which
case, you can use the REPLACE function to add an additional single quote.

Within the procedure you are calling, you may do the following:

loc_quote varchar2(1) := ;

REPLACE(value_to_be_inserted,loc_quote,loc_quote || loc_quote)


I just had the exact same issued and the above solved the problem.  You
could use the REPLACE statment in an Insert or Update statement.

Hope this helps.

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Hi DBAs,

I have strings that are being passed into parameters that contain embedded
single quotes. Obviously this fails the insert and
update statements.  How can I handle these inside stored procedure?

Thanks
Rick


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RE: How to handle embedded single quotes in procedure

2002-07-01 Thread Robson, Peter

double up the quotes:
'string string string '' string string strin'

will give you a string with one single quote within.

p.


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> contain embedded
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> update statements.  How can I handle these inside stored procedure?
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Re: How to handle embedded single quotes in procedure

2002-07-01 Thread Stephane Faroult

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> 
> Thanks
> Rick
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replace(my_parameter, , '')
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How to handle embedded single quotes in procedure

2002-07-01 Thread Rick_Cale

Hi DBAs,

I have strings that are being passed into parameters that contain embedded
single quotes. Obviously this fails the insert and
update statements.  How can I handle these inside stored procedure?

Thanks
Rick


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Re: Activating replication

2002-07-01 Thread Vladimir Barac - posao

Well, I was thinking about replicatin related sys-owned procedures only!!!

Actual data replication is on behalf of my own planning, of course! I don't
expect catrep.sql to quess my thoughts and do job instead of me!

Regards,
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> not even close
>
> read the docs... all that running catrep does is load the stored
> procedures  you will need to use.
>
> You need to decide on
>
> multi-master vs materialized view replication
> if materialized view:
>read-only, updateable, writeable
>
> synchronous or asynchronous
>
> and that's just to determine which kind of replication you want to be
> running.  Then you actually have to implement it.
>
> Rachel
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> > Oracle 8.1.7 EE
> >
> > both Win2000 and Solaris
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> > Is running catrep.sql really, really, really all that is needed to
> > activate replication in 8i?
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Re: dblink / global names explanation please

2002-07-01 Thread Suzy Vordos


global_names enforcing db_links to be named service_name.domain.  The
workaround it to change it for your session: alter session set
global_names=false.

Shaw John-P55297 wrote:
> 
> 8.1.6 on NT
> I have java installed and a java email package on instance A on a server.
> One the same server on instance B with global names set to false I created a
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> for my email routine at A. This worked. On a third instance ( C ) on this
> same server with gobal names set to true (do you see where this is going) I
> did the same thing as I had done on instance B - but I couldn't use a short
> name - I had to use the full A.moto.com. Then I created a public synonym for
> the [EMAIL PROTECTED] This kept returning an error - couldn't find class
> com/moto/utils/mail - this is a home grown java class in the database A.
> I could not find anything different between the two setups other than one
> had global names set to false and the other had global names set to true
> (after many hours of looking and head banging) - so I just tried setting
> global names to false on instance C and bounced the database - went back and
> created a new short named public database link and then created the public
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Re: ORA-600 during replication

2002-07-01 Thread Alessandro Guimaraes

Hi.
This error signals a potential data corruption, but, examine the other
messages for a more complete description of the problem.
about the ora-12008
A number of events could cause this problem, among them the following: The
master table no longer exists.
 A column was added to the master table, and the view was not altered.
 The master is at a remote site and inaccessible.
Also suggest you try changing the refresh of the snapshot for FAST or you
may need to generate an event 10046 trace so youcan see exactly which
statement is failing.

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> Hi,
>
> Upload your trace file to iOraBugFinder at
> http://www.ubtools.com/products/iorabugfinder/iorabugfinder.html .
>
> regards...
>
> Vladimir Barac - posao wrote:
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> > Good morning / afternoon/ evening (depending on your position)...
> >
> > Alert log has following lines...
> >
> > Tue Jun 25 10:07:30 2002
> > Errors in file E:\Oracle\admin\vurs\bdump\vursSNP2.TRC:
> > ORA-12012: error on auto execute of job 123
> > ORA-12008: error in snapshot refresh path
> > ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [ktbdchk1: bad dscn], [], [],
[],
> > [],
> > [], [], []
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Re: Confused: Oracle OCP

2002-07-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Yeah right... and not get the fees for the exams?

That was an analogy. Personally, I wish the OCP requirements included
at least one class in basic writing skills

Oh, and I was incorrect, as of last month, if you had not started the
certification process for OCP you are required to take the $2000 class
as well


--- KENNETH JANUSZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rachel:
> 
> I have an Assoc. EE, B.S. and an MBA.  Does this mean Oracle will
> automatically give me all three certificates?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ken Janusz, CPIM
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> 
> > think of it as
> >
> > OCA is the Oracle equivalent of getting an Associate's degree from
> a
> > college
> > OCP is the Bachelor's degree
> > OCM is the Master's degree
> >
> > not exact but close enough for Oracle.
> >
> > The $2000 class is a requirement ONLY for OCM. Most companies do
> not
> > look for OCM on a resume, at least not yet.
> >
> >
> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Ok,
> > >
> > > The current *threads* on the subject have persuaded me to
> pursue
> > > the OCP.. I remember the thread about the $2000 course.  But
> I
> > > thought that this was for Oracle Masters, NOT OCP...
> > >
> > > Can anyone clarify this OCA, OCP, Masters thing hey and
> what
> > > ever happened to DBO?
> > >
> > > Guess the main question is do I need that $2000 course JUST
> to
> > > get my OCP.. the vanilla version:>
> > >
> > > Agh!
> > >
> > > Regardless, I feel I am going to have to do it.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hannah
> > >
> >
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Re: Activating replication

2002-07-01 Thread Suzy Vordos


No, caprep.sql simply builds the data dictionary views for Replication. 
For the schemas you want to replicate, there is a mountain of planning
and configuration to do after that.  Implementing replication isn't
something you can approach casually, so check out the following admin
guides:

http://technet.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/doc_library/817_doc/server.817/a76959/toc.htm
http://technet.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/doc_library/817_doc/server.817/a76958/toc.htm

> Vladimir Barac - posao wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Oracle 8.1.7 EE
> 
> both Win2000 and Solaris
> 
> Is running catrep.sql really, really, really all that is needed to
> activate replication in 8i?
> 
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Re: Activating replication

2002-07-01 Thread Alessandro Guimaraes



Hi, 
Yes. But just the catalog tables o replication 
are created
Alessandro 
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  posao 
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  Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 7:13 AM
  Subject: Activating replication
  
  Hi
   
  Oracle 8.1.7 EE
   
  both Win2000 and 
  Solaris
   
  Is running catrep.sql really, really, 
  really all that is needed to activate replication in 8i?
   
   


RE: Confused: Oracle OCP

2002-07-01 Thread johanna . doran

Thank you Rachel!



>  -Original Message-
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> 
> think of it as
> 
> OCA is the Oracle equivalent of getting an Associate's degree from a
> college
> OCP is the Bachelor's degree
> OCM is the Master's degree
> 
> not exact but close enough for Oracle.
> 
> The $2000 class is a requirement ONLY for OCM. Most companies do not
> look for OCM on a resume, at least not yet.
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Re: Activating replication

2002-07-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

not even close

read the docs... all that running catrep does is load the stored
procedures  you will need to use.

You need to decide on 

multi-master vs materialized view replication
if materialized view:
   read-only, updateable, writeable

synchronous or asynchronous

and that's just to determine which kind of replication you want to be
running.  Then you actually have to implement it.

Rachel

--- Vladimir Barac - posao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> Oracle 8.1.7 EE
> 
> both Win2000 and Solaris
> 
> Is running catrep.sql really, really, really all that is needed to
> activate replication in 8i?
> 
> 
> 


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Peopletools upgrade

2002-07-01 Thread Jack van Zanen

Hi All,


Has anybody upgraded people tools 7.5 to 8 already?

If so, have you found a solution for the high amount of parsing the app
does (a lot of statements are parsed twice and executed once.)

Also I see that a lot of almost identical statements in the sql area
(username difference) which indicated no use of bind variables for this
query. How is your experience with cursor_sharing=force (hear a lot about
bugs)

Any other thing you found that might improve things .mind you performance
is not considered to be dramatic (apart from certain app generated sql) but
before people start asking for performance imrovements I thought I'd be
prepared.


any input apreciated.


TIA




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Re: Confused: Oracle OCP

2002-07-01 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ

Rachel:

I have an Assoc. EE, B.S. and an MBA.  Does this mean Oracle will
automatically give me all three certificates?

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM


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> think of it as
>
> OCA is the Oracle equivalent of getting an Associate's degree from a
> college
> OCP is the Bachelor's degree
> OCM is the Master's degree
>
> not exact but close enough for Oracle.
>
> The $2000 class is a requirement ONLY for OCM. Most companies do not
> look for OCM on a resume, at least not yet.
>
>
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Ok,
> >
> > The current *threads* on the subject have persuaded me to pursue
> > the OCP.. I remember the thread about the $2000 course.  But I
> > thought that this was for Oracle Masters, NOT OCP...
> >
> > Can anyone clarify this OCA, OCP, Masters thing hey and what
> > ever happened to DBO?
> >
> > Guess the main question is do I need that $2000 course JUST to
> > get my OCP.. the vanilla version:>
> >
> > Agh!
> >
> > Regardless, I feel I am going to have to do it.
> >
> >
> > Hannah
> >
>
>
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Oracle8i Upgrade Exam Material

2002-07-01 Thread Erik Williams

I am going to be taking the Oracle8i: New Features for Administrators
(1Z0-020) exam and am looking for study materials. Can anyone recommend and
books for this exam? Thanks

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Re: Remove numbers from string

2002-07-01 Thread Tim Gorman

Instead of "#" character, replace with an unprintable character such as
"CHR(1)"?

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On Monday 01 July 2002 14:09, Nils Höglund wrote:
> > You may have to
> > use an intermediate stage, first replacing all numbers by say '#', then
> > replacing '#' by ''.
>
> This is something I would like to avoid, since my string-fields may
contain
> any characters.
>
> Any ideas?

SELECT TRANSLATE('abc123def432'
,'A0123456789','A') "replaced" FROM DUAL;

JP

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Re: exp73 dumpparam for unlimited extents?

2002-07-01 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev

LMTs came with 8i (8.1.5 afaik)

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> I don't believe LMTs are supported in 7.3.x...
> 
> 
> --- Don Granaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > With compress=N, you will get essentially the same mish-mash of
> > extents you
> > had previously - unless you are importing into a LMT.
> > 
> > You have basically two options:
> > 
> > 1) Pre-create the objects with a storage clause specifying the extent
> > sizes
> > you want - with initial and next the same size.  Then import with
> > ignore=Y.
> > Of course, if you drop the users, you will have to recreate them
> > before
> > pre-creating the objects.  This is the only option for
> > dictionary-managed
> > tablespaces to get uniform extents.  (Hint: imp ...
> > indexfile=somefilename.sql ..., edit somefilename.sql to (1)
> > uncomment the
> > create table statements and (2) modify storage clauses, then run
> > somefilename.sql.  If the export is large, you may wish to split this
> > into
> > two parts - one for the tables and one for the indexes and
> > constraints.  (It
> > is a little more complicated than it might seem at first, but isn't
> > too bad.
> > One possible approach is to perform one export with rows=Y indexes=N
> > constraints=N and another with rows=N indexes=Y constraints=Y. 
> > Details left
> > as an exercise for the reader ;-)
> > 
> > 2) Convert the tablespace(s) to LMT(s) with uniform extents - or drop
> > and
> > recreate them as such - prior to the import.
> > 
> > In the vast majority of cases, (2) is preferred.
> > 
> > Don Granaman
> > [certifiable OraSaurus]
> > 
> > - Original Message -
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> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Running Oracle 7.3.4.4 on Win2k.
> > Trying to implement unlimited extents of the same size. (Same size
> > works
> > for us).
> > Set the tablespace defaults
> > Dumped the users
> > Dropped the users
> > Imported the users
> > 
> > Tables still had the same mish-mash of extents and max extents 121
> > 
> > Here are my dump params
> > USERID = system/@**
> > FILE = c:\dumps\test.dmp
> > LOG = c:\dumps\test.log
> > FULL = Y
> > buffer=100
> > consistent=y
> > compress=n
> > 
> > That did not work so I tried dumping an individual user
> > USERID = system/*@***
> > FILE = c:\dumps\test.dmp
> > LOG = c:\dumps\test.log
> > FULL = N
> > COMPRESS = N
> > owner=restek
> > 
> > Still get mish-mash extents on import.
> > 
> > The load was always:
> > USERID = system/**@*
> > FILE = c:\dumps\test.dmp
> > LOG = c:\dumps\test.dmprs.implog
> > FROMUSER = restek
> > TOUSER = restek
> > 
> > My quick test of create table tmp_xyz as select * from xyz gives me
> > the
> > result I want.
> > 
> > Any suggestions?  Do I have to wait until I upgrade to 8i or 9i?
> > 
> > TIA
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Activating replication

2002-07-01 Thread Vladimir Barac - posao



Hi
 
Oracle 8.1.7 EE
 
both Win2000 and 
Solaris
 
Is running catrep.sql really, really, 
really all that is needed to activate replication in 8i?
 
 


Re: Confused: Oracle OCP

2002-07-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

think of it as

OCA is the Oracle equivalent of getting an Associate's degree from a
college
OCP is the Bachelor's degree
OCM is the Master's degree

not exact but close enough for Oracle.

The $2000 class is a requirement ONLY for OCM. Most companies do not
look for OCM on a resume, at least not yet. 


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ok,
>  
> The current *threads* on the subject have persuaded me to pursue
> the OCP.. I remember the thread about the $2000 course.  But I
> thought that this was for Oracle Masters, NOT OCP...
>  
> Can anyone clarify this OCA, OCP, Masters thing hey and what
> ever happened to DBO?
>  
> Guess the main question is do I need that $2000 course JUST to
> get my OCP.. the vanilla version:>
>  
> Agh!
>  
> Regardless, I feel I am going to have to do it.
>  
>  
> Hannah
> 


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Re: performance

2002-07-01 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev

I've assumed, that nothing changed beside ARCHIVE LOG mode. "when Our DB is
non-archive mode that was ok,when we moved to Archive, it is dead slow"
This directs to the question of I/O with archiving redo logs in first turn.
Doesn't it? What may be other direct performance issues of ARCHIVE LOG mode?
I admit that there is not enough information, which may easily make me
mistaken. However, there should be some general setup for archive log mode,
and that's what I gave. General setup should be made before moving to
archivelog mode and taken as basis for further tuning.

Alexandre

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> Alexandre,
>
> I beg to differ.
>
> You have assumed, in the complete absence of any information, that he has
an
> I/O problem.  He might.  He also might not.  He should look first, before
> leaping.
>
> -Tim
>
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>
>
> > Ravi,
> >
> > Make sure you have at least 5-10 redo log groups. That's depends on your
> > workload. You also may need to increase their size. Think how much log
> info
> > your database can generate and size your logs that it would be enough
for
> 10
> > mins at least. (Of course that would be pretty rough estimation)
> > Also make sure you put redo logs and arcived redo logs on differend
disks!
> > So that's for start. After, you may follow advice given in Tim's reply.
> >
> > hth
> > Alexandre
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> >
> >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > Can any one please give me some hints or tips when we
> > > move to archive mode? when Our DB is non-archive mode
> > > that was ok,when we moved to Archive, it is dead slow.
> > >
> > >  Obviosuly archive mode performance is slow, is there
> > > any other precations to be taken care?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Ravi
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RE: control file I/O significantly changed

2002-07-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Paula,

It would help if you told us which version you are using and seeing
this change in. I believe that with 9i more is written to the control
files. I  know that if you are using RMAN this is the case

You can also dump the control files to see what is in them. Are they
larger than they used to be?

Rachel


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Guys,
>  
> It appears to me that control files are being written to continously
> versus
> only during checkpoints.  I.E. the I/O behaviour of control files has
> changed significantly.  Does anyone have any good doc. on this?  Is
> it an
> intentional architectural change?  
>  
> Thanks,
> Paula
> 


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Re: Rollback OPTIMAL setting

2002-07-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

rule 4 ALWAYS applies.. no matter what version of the database :)


--- Don Granaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As far as I know, the jury is still out - I haven't had a chance yet
> to see
> if (a) the problems Dan found in 9.0.1.1 are fixed and (2) I like the
> way it
> works.  Also, it does require 9i and I'm not yet ready to go there
> with
> everything.  Even with 9i and system managed undo, rule #4 will still
> be in
> effect!
> 
> Don Granaman
> [certifiable OraSaurus]
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> 
> 
> Don,
> 
> 9i has system managed undo -- you don't think it works yet?
> 
> Rachel
> 
> --- Don Granaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I prefer to have OPTIMAL set and deal with "long running large
> > transactions"
> > another way - setting "OPTIMAL" on the developers!  Granted, this
> > doesn't
> > work for 3rd party products, but I usually deal with in-house
> > applications.
> > Getting this to work requires: (1) having enough rollback segments,
> > (2)
> > large enough rollback segments that extends almost never occur, and
> > (3) NOT
> > having the "one giant rollback segment for large jobs", and, most
> > importantly, (4) all "batch-lookin' thingies" have to be reviewed
> by
> > the DBA
> > and optimized, by either the DBA or the developer - or both, until
> > they pass
> > muster.  Using this, I rarely seen an ORA-01555 or a rollback
> shrink
> > (over
> > six months on the systems I'm working with now) - and when I do, I
> > know that
> > it (usually) means that somebody broke rule #(4).  When that
> happens,
> > I
> > track it down and work with the developer to fix it.  My experience
> > is that
> > the vast majority of developers are receptive - they actually like
> to
> > have
> > their code run without problems.
> >
> > Of course, this assumes that the "wasted" disk space for (1) and
> (2)
> > is not
> > a significant issue.  It rarely is, but I work almost exclusively
> > with
> > (essentially) OLTP systems where space is typically less critical
> > than I/O
> > throughput capability and reliability.  Usually, we have to add
> disks
> > for
> > performance rather than space.  The database datafile drives are
> > typically
> > 36 GB (less often 18 GB) and are rarely "full", so a GB or two more
> > for
> > rollback tablespace is OK.  If I had to operate under the space
> > constraints
> > that many seem to have, I might not set OPTIMAL either.
> >
> > I am looking forward to the day that this "no OPTIMAL" suggestion
> > fades into
> > the "myths and folklore" category.  Either because of basic policy
> > changes
> > (e.g. the extents myth), a better Oracle algorithm (e.g. 10i system
> > managed
> > undo???), more intelligently designed batch processes in
> > applications, or
> > the trend towards ever-increasing drive size.
> >
> > Note: All this doesn't mean that I don't understand why so many use
> > the
> > "manual shrink" method.  My philosophy differs in that not setting
> > OPTIMAL
> > should be a last resort, not a blanket policy.
> >
> > Don Granaman
> > [OraSaurus]
> >
> > - Original Message -
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> > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:13 AM
> >
> >
> > One of the constant comments regarding rollback segments is not to
> > set
> > optimal. I am wondering why this setting is often discouraged. I
> have
> > my own
> > ideas, but I want to gather more opinions and experiences.
> >
> > Daniel W. Fink
> > Sr. Oracle DBA
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Re: Confused: Oracle OCP

2002-07-01 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev




Hannah,
Main answer - Yes, you do.
You need this practice "hands-on" 2000$ 
exam for OCP if you are not OCP for any older versions. like 7, 8, 
8i.
For OCM you need even more... 2 classes from Oracle 
(which are costly) plus 2-days (not sure how many days) "hands-on" exam. Too 
expensive. (hope Oracle will smash up on OCM :-)
 
Alexandre

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  From: 
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  Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 2:28 PM
  Subject: Confused: Oracle OCP
  
  Ok,
   
      
  The current *threads* on the subject have persuaded me to pursue the OCP.. 
  I remember the thread about the $2000 course.  But I thought that this 
  was for Oracle Masters, NOT OCP...
   
      
  Can anyone clarify this OCA, OCP, Masters thing hey and what ever happened 
  to DBO?
   
      
  Guess the main question is do I need that $2000 course JUST to get my 
  OCP.. the vanilla version:>
   
  Agh!
   
      
  Regardless, I feel I am going to have to do it.
   
   
  Hannah


Twin City OUG Meeting

2002-07-01 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ



Is anyone on this list going to attend the TCOUG meeting on 
July 18th.?
 
Ken Janusz, CPIM


Re: Confused: Oracle OCP

2002-07-01 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ



Hanna:
 
You can review this on Oracles web site.  I believe that 
the Masters certificate is the last in the line.  First there is OCA, then 
OCP and then OCP Masters (I believe).  So I think what you end up with is 
three OCP certifications.
 
My $0.02 worth,
 
Ken Janusz, CPIM

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  From: 
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 7:28 AM
  Subject: Confused: Oracle OCP
  
  Ok,
   
      
  The current *threads* on the subject have persuaded me to pursue the OCP.. 
  I remember the thread about the $2000 course.  But I thought that this 
  was for Oracle Masters, NOT OCP...
   
      
  Can anyone clarify this OCA, OCP, Masters thing hey and what ever happened 
  to DBO?
   
      
  Guess the main question is do I need that $2000 course JUST to get my 
  OCP.. the vanilla version:>
   
  Agh!
   
      
  Regardless, I feel I am going to have to do it.
   
   
  Hannah


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