Re: Risk of knowing password hash value (Was: OEM permissions)

2003-12-22 Thread rahul sharma
8.1.7 on win2000

SQL> select password
  2  from dba_users
  3  where username = 'SCOTT';

PASSWORD
--
F894844C34402B67




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> Hi,
> 
> Okay. I'm almost a believer of this as a problem. How
> about 9.2.0.4 on RH9.3.
> 
> 1) What does anyone/everyone get for my this query (my
> results shown):
> 
> connect system/[EMAIL PROTECTED];
> alter user scott identified by tiger;
> --
> select password
> from dba_users
> where username = 'SCOTT';
> 
> PASSWORD
> 
> F894844C34402B67
> 
> 2) If you all get the same, then I'm concerned.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike Thomas
> 
> --- Yong Huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Jared,
> > 
> > I see you log out and log back in as SYSTEM to DB2.
> > But how do you know the
> > password for SYSTEM to log back in with after you
> > change it?
> > 
> > What if you don't log out? When I tried that (i.e.
> > not logging out), I got
> > ORA-1017.
> > 
> > Yong Huang
> > 
> > --- Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Environment:
> > > 
> > > DB1: RH 8.0 with Oracle EE 9.2.0.4
> > > 
> > > DB2: Win2k SP3 with Oracle EE 9.2.0.1
> > > 
> > > SYSTEM user on each database initially have
> > different passwords.
> > > 
> 
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Re: background process "LGWR" did not start

2003-12-04 Thread rahul sharma
alert/trace files ? 

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> Anyone know what might be causing this error? Oracle 8.1.7 on Solaris.
> 
>  background process "LGWR" did not start
> 
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Re: ** can two processes use the same rollback extent

2003-12-02 Thread rahul sharma



i can answer the first part of your 
question..
YES, two transactions can write on the same extent 
of an RBS, i think the restriction is at the block level, 
this was true until 8i, might have changed in 9 
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  Subject: ** can two processes use the 
  same rollback extent 
  
  
  
Hi,
    One rollback segment can be used by multiple 
transactions/processes but what about the extents? Is it safe to assume that 
only one transaction/process can use one extent? What is a good way to size 
the extent for warehousing tasks? Or guess the rollback generated and size 
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Re: bug info, not displayed!!

2003-11-13 Thread rahul sharma
Brad, we are running advance security, and we authenticate user from an
external RSA/ACE server using
secureID's tokens. we can connect from sql*plus.. but the web forms returns
error.. which we were hoping to
solve by patching the forms 6i

-rahul

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> Correct me if I am wrong but if you use some type of secure authentication
> method I believe you have to have Oracle Advanced Security option
> installed...
>
> If you are expecting to simply flip from switches in sqlnet.ora and have
> secure external authentication you might be in for more surprises than
what
> any marketing hype may have told you.
>
> The last time I looked into external authentication it got ugly very
> quickly.
>
>
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>
> the bug no. is correct, it relates to
>
> forms 6i (running on web) is not able to connect to the DB when using ASO,
> and third party authentication (securID)
>
> we have configured sucureID authentication for our DB, but out back office
> app using forms6i does not connect to the DB when this is configured..
when
> i remark the lines in sqlnet.ora, it can connect.
>
> there is so little information regarding using web forms, and third party
> authentication , methods..
>
>
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 04:34:40 -0800, DENNIS WILLIAMS
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> > Rahul
> >Are you certain you have the correct number? What is the bug about --
> you
> > may be able to search using alternate words.
> >
> > Dennis Williams
> > DBA
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> >
> > List, i need some help on this... i am trying to get information on this
> but
> > , and the patches available,
> > the bug no is 1809113. but metaling does not allow to display this bug
!!!
> > even when i use my PARTNERS
> >  login !!!
> >
> >   a.. The bug is not classified as publicly accessible ("non-public").
> >   b.. The bug is filed under a product for which you have no license. To
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> > this date are accessible on this server.
> >   d.. The bug number does not exist (it was referenced incorrectly).
> > i need info on this but to patch my forms6i server using ASO and
secureID
> > authentication.
> >
> > i would appreciate if someone can give me info on this bug.
> >
> > -rahul
> >
> >
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apologies for the repeated mails

2003-11-13 Thread rahul sharma
List, my apologies for the post appearing multiple times...
seems like a 'reload page post/send again'  related problem to our web-mail
program
will be careful with the relaod button in the future..

-rahul


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RE: bug info, not displayed!!

2003-11-12 Thread rahul
the bug no. is correct, it relates to 

forms 6i (running on web) is not able to connect to the DB when using ASO, 
and third party authentication (securID) 

we have configured sucureID authentication for our DB, but out back office 
app using forms6i does not connect to the DB when this is configured.. when 
i remark the lines in sqlnet.ora, it can connect.

there is so little information regarding using web forms, and third party 
authentication , methods..


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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> Rahul
>Are you certain you have the correct number? What is the bug about -- 
you
> may be able to search using alternate words.
> 
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
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> 
> List, i need some help on this... i am trying to get information on this 
but
> , and the patches available,
> the bug no is 1809113. but metaling does not allow to display this bug !!!
> even when i use my PARTNERS
>  login !!!
> 
>   a.. The bug is not classified as publicly accessible ("non-public").
>   b.. The bug is filed under a product for which you have no license. To
> view your product licenses go in your User profile and select the Show
> License option.
>   c.. The bug was filed before June 1996. Only bugs that were opened after
> this date are accessible on this server.
>   d.. The bug number does not exist (it was referenced incorrectly).
> i need info on this but to patch my forms6i server using ASO and secureID
> authentication.
> 
> i would appreciate if someone can give me info on this bug.
> 
> -rahul
> 
> 
> 
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RE: bug info, not displayed!!

2003-11-12 Thread rahul
the bug no. is correct, it relates to 

forms 6i (running on web) is not able to connect to the DB when using ASO, 
and third party authentication (securID) 

we have configured sucureID authentication for our DB, but out back office 
app using forms6i does not connect to the DB when this is configured.. when 
i remark the lines in sqlnet.ora, it can connect.

there is so little information regarding using web forms, and third party 
authentication , methods..


On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 04:34:40 -0800, DENNIS WILLIAMS 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> Rahul
>Are you certain you have the correct number? What is the bug about -- 
you
> may be able to search using alternate words.
> 
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:30 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> List, i need some help on this... i am trying to get information on this 
but
> , and the patches available,
> the bug no is 1809113. but metaling does not allow to display this bug !!!
> even when i use my PARTNERS
>  login !!!
> 
>   a.. The bug is not classified as publicly accessible ("non-public").
>   b.. The bug is filed under a product for which you have no license. To
> view your product licenses go in your User profile and select the Show
> License option.
>   c.. The bug was filed before June 1996. Only bugs that were opened after
> this date are accessible on this server.
>   d.. The bug number does not exist (it was referenced incorrectly).
> i need info on this but to patch my forms6i server using ASO and secureID
> authentication.
> 
> i would appreciate if someone can give me info on this bug.
> 
> -rahul
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: bug info, not displayed!!

2003-11-12 Thread rahul
the bug no. is correct, it relates to 

forms 6i (running on web) is not able to connect to the DB when using ASO, 
and third party authentication (securID) 

we have configured sucureID authentication for our DB, but out back office 
app using forms6i does not connect to the DB when this is configured.. when 
i remark the lines in sqlnet.ora, it can connect.

there is so little information regarding using web forms, and third party 
authentication , methods..


On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 04:34:40 -0800, DENNIS WILLIAMS 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> Rahul
>Are you certain you have the correct number? What is the bug about -- 
you
> may be able to search using alternate words.
> 
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:30 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> List, i need some help on this... i am trying to get information on this 
but
> , and the patches available,
> the bug no is 1809113. but metaling does not allow to display this bug !!!
> even when i use my PARTNERS
>  login !!!
> 
>   a.. The bug is not classified as publicly accessible ("non-public").
>   b.. The bug is filed under a product for which you have no license. To
> view your product licenses go in your User profile and select the Show
> License option.
>   c.. The bug was filed before June 1996. Only bugs that were opened after
> this date are accessible on this server.
>   d.. The bug number does not exist (it was referenced incorrectly).
> i need info on this but to patch my forms6i server using ASO and secureID
> authentication.
> 
> i would appreciate if someone can give me info on this bug.
> 
> -rahul
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: bug info, not displayed!!

2003-11-12 Thread rahul
the bug no. is correct, it relates to 

forms 6i (running on web) is not able to connect to the DB when using ASO, 
and third party authentication (securID) 

we have configured sucureID authentication for our DB, but out back office 
app using forms6i does not connect to the DB when this is configured.. when 
i remark the lines in sqlnet.ora, it can connect.

there is so little information regarding using web forms, and third party 
authentication , methods..


On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 04:34:40 -0800, DENNIS WILLIAMS 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> Rahul
>Are you certain you have the correct number? What is the bug about -- 
you
> may be able to search using alternate words.
> 
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:30 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> List, i need some help on this... i am trying to get information on this 
but
> , and the patches available,
> the bug no is 1809113. but metaling does not allow to display this bug !!!
> even when i use my PARTNERS
>  login !!!
> 
>   a.. The bug is not classified as publicly accessible ("non-public").
>   b.. The bug is filed under a product for which you have no license. To
> view your product licenses go in your User profile and select the Show
> License option.
>   c.. The bug was filed before June 1996. Only bugs that were opened after
> this date are accessible on this server.
>   d.. The bug number does not exist (it was referenced incorrectly).
> i need info on this but to patch my forms6i server using ASO and secureID
> authentication.
> 
> i would appreciate if someone can give me info on this bug.
> 
> -rahul
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: bug info, not displayed!!

2003-11-12 Thread rahul
the bug no. is correct, it relates to 

forms 6i (running on web) is not able to connect to the DB when using ASO, 
and third party authentication (securID) 

we have configured sucureID authentication for our DB, but out back office 
app using forms6i does not connect to the DB when this is configured.. when 
i remark the lines in sqlnet.ora, it can connect.

there is so little information regarding using web forms, and third party 
authentication , methods..


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> List, i need some help on this... i am trying to get information on this 
but
> , and the patches available,
> the bug no is 1809113. but metaling does not allow to display this bug !!!
> even when i use my PARTNERS
>  login !!!
> 
>   a.. The bug is not classified as publicly accessible ("non-public").
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bug info, not displayed!!

2003-11-12 Thread rahul sharma
List, i need some help on this... i am trying to get information on this but
, and the patches available,
the bug no is 1809113. but metaling does not allow to display this bug !!!
even when i use my PARTNERS
 login !!!

  a.. The bug is not classified as publicly accessible ("non-public").
  b.. The bug is filed under a product for which you have no license. To
view your product licenses go in your User profile and select the Show
License option.
  c.. The bug was filed before June 1996. Only bugs that were opened after
this date are accessible on this server.
  d.. The bug number does not exist (it was referenced incorrectly).
i need info on this but to patch my forms6i server using ASO and secureID
authentication.

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using JDBC-OCI from JSP, authenticating using RSA

2003-11-05 Thread rahul sharma
Dear all, a few days ago i posted a query regarding the JDBC-THIN driver
using RSA authentication,
a the RSA uses sql*net paramters, and the jdbc-thin would directly connect
to the db using listener,
it was not possible to use RSA.

now we plan to change the setup to use JDBC-OCI driver to connect to oracle,
as i understand JSP pages
will be executing on the app server, which in turn would connect to the db
server.

as we will not be using an applet , no dirvers wil be downloaded to the
client, all connectivity will be from the middle tier
where the JSP pages are executed.

Am i correct in assuming the above ? if anyone on this list has experience
using jdbc-oci, please help me on this

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connection using secureID tokens and JDBC thin

2003-11-03 Thread rahul sharma



dear list, 
 
The setup:
    app server 9ias 
1.0.2.2.2a
    db server 9i R2.
 
The application
    Our app connects to the DB using 
JDBC thin, a simple app showing fields and inserting data into
    underlying tables.
 
The problem
    All was working fine, then the 
management asked us to use RSA/ACE security using Token cards,
 we have implemented 
everything and all works fine, we CAN connect from the IAS to the DB using 
sql*plus
 and providing the 
passcode, BUT out application (using JDBC thin) is not able to connect 
!!!
    "invalid username or 
password"  !!! we have another back office app connecting to the DB 
using web forms 6i,     
    which also has the same problem 
after we setup secureID. 
 
    again, we have no prolems 
connecting from SQL*PLUS using secureID passcodes
 
please advise 
 
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use of TEMP tables to re-query HTML form fields

2003-10-10 Thread rahul
list,

this might not be the appropriate forum for this question, but it's friday 
night and i have to come up with some solution...

we have developed an application using java script to display a form, which 
the users will fill in , this form is submitted using JDBC THIS to oracle 
database (using 9iAS). we have back and forward buttons on this form, the 
form appears in 3 pages !!

the problem:
after the user fills in the first page, he/she will click "next" and the 
2nd page would load, there a button "back" on the second page to go back to 
the 1st page, NOW if the user has filled in values in the second page and 
he navigates to the 1st page, and again goes forward by clicking "next" 
button the form, the 2nd page apprears blank !! all the earlier filled in 
values are lost !! , ok , this is the expected default behaviour , how can 
we make the values "re-apprear" on the second page ?? 

the solution: 
use of TEMP tables, we use temp table to hold the values, each tikme the 
user clicks "next page" we save the values to the temp table, and re-query 
to fill in the fields if the user comes back to the same page ..

is my approach correct ??? is there another easier way to do this??

TIA
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db security, managed from application forms

2003-08-30 Thread rahul
List, after reading so much about managing the srcurity from the db users, 
roles and privileges, i have finally decided to do the same. I have figured 
out most of the things...

1. i have made a form interface to create role and grant privileges to 
roles. all the data goes to app tables, and then DB roles are created and 
grants given which matches the data entered. I have a routine which "syncs" 
the role/privs in the app tables to the db roles and privs. 

2. another form provides interface to create users and grant roles to 
users. 

3. then i have a MMB menu attached to a form which is executed.

the user will login, and will be displayed a menu based on the role given 
to the user. this is where i'm not sure how would i handle it, something 
like... on-new-form-instance i would check the role name from the 
session_roles, and would have a table which would tell me which menu option 
has to be enabled with this role. am i going the right way ?? 

the forms will be run on the web, so i guess i cannot store them in the db, 
and cant use the menu roles facility.

i have done a lot of work on this.. but cant figure out the role and form 
module to run...i dont want to go back to one app user accessing the db, 
and application managed seurity 

would appreciate any help.

TIA

-rahul





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column level privilege - resolved

2003-08-26 Thread rahul
Arun, thanks for suggesting this, this is what i did.

1. created a table to store table names associated column names
and a "security level" for a that column

EMP emp_name 3
EMP emp_sal  5

2. then i granted every users a security level also,

3. then i created a view on the name table

select decode(sec_func('EMP','EMP_NAME'),1,emp_name,'x' emp_name),
decode(sec_func('EMP','EMP_SAL'),1,emp_sal,0 emp_sal)

the sec_func is passed table name and the column name and it checks the
security_level of that column againet the security level of the user 
quering the table. if the security level is equal or lower, then 1 is 
returned, else 0 is returned, and the decode in the view will do the rest

this way i can show/hide columns based on the security level (or roles 
granted to users) ... 

ok, i have only tested it, not implemented it, will it work in a real 
application environment ? has anyone used this type of column privs ? 

-TIA


=
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:24:36 -0800, "Arup Nanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote :

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> 
> 
> Rahul,
> 
> I'm not sure if this is too late; but here is a strategy you could follow 
to achieve what you want. True, VPD does not have a mechanism to suppress 
columns; and using a view for each user is impractical. Someday, I hope, 
VPD will have that capability; but until then you could try the following. 
> 
> Suppose you have a table called SAVINGS, for savings account holders as 
follows:
> 
> ACCTNO NUMBER
> CLEARED_BALANCENUMBER
> UNCLEARED_BALANCE  NUMBER
> 
> The records in the table are as follows:
> 
> ACCTNO CLEARED_BALANCE UNCLEARED_BALANCE
> -- --- -
>  11000  1100
>  21100  1200
>  31300  1500
> 
> Cleared balance is the amount the the customer can draw from the bank. If 
there are checks outstanding, the balance is shown in uncleared. Let's 
start with a simple example - you have users who are allowed to see the 
uncleared balance of the customers and the others are not. Intead of hiding 
the column completely, which how VPD operates, you would want to show then 
as zero, if not authorized to see that; otherwise the actual value is shown.
> 
> You would create a context as follows:
> 
> create context sec_ctx using sec_ctx_pkg;
> 
> The trusted function can be created as:
> 
>  create procedure sec_ctx_pkg
>  (
>  p_attribute_name in varchar2,
>  p_attribute_value in varchar2
>  ) is
>  begin
>  dbms_session.set_context(
> 'sec_ctx',
>  p_attribute_name,
>  p_attribute_value);
>  end;
>  /
> 
> In the after-login trigger, you would set the context value automatically 
for user using 
> 
> set_Ctx_pkg ('cleared', 'yes'); or set_Ctx_pkg ('cleared', 'no'); 
depending on whether the user is cleared to see the balance or not. In real 
life, you may have a table that lists all users and whether or not they are 
cleared. The after-logon trigger could read that table and set the context 
attribute properly.
> 
> Next, you would craete a view. 
> 
> create or replace view vw_savings
> as
> select acctno, cleared_balance,
> decode(sys_context('sec_ctx','cleared'),'yes',
> uncleared_balance, 0) uncleared_balance
> from savings
> /
> 
> Note: there is only ONE view, not one per user. Regardless of how many 
users you have, there will be only one view.
> 
> Now to test the setup. Assume user RAHUL is allowed to see the 
uncleared_balance. The after-logon trigger will set the context 
attribute "cleared" to "yes" when the user logs in. When the user selects:
> 
> select * from vw_savings;
> 
> He sees:
> 
>ACCTNO CLEARED_BALANCE UNCLEARED_BALANCE
> - --- -
> 11000  1100
> 21100  1200
> 31300  1500
> 
> Which is the correct value. Now, user ARUP logs in, who does not have the 
authority to see the uncleared balance. The logon trigger will set the 
attribute to "no" and the same select will now produce:
> 
> ACCTNO CLEARED_BALANCE UNCLEARED_BALANCE
> -- --- -
>  11000 0
>  21100 0
>  31300 0
> 
> Note: How the uncleared balance is 0

column level privilege - resolved

2003-08-26 Thread rahul
Arun, thanks for suggesting this, this is what i did.

1. created a table to store table names associated column names
and a "security level" for a that column

EMP emp_name 3
EMP emp_sal  5

2. then i granted every users a security level also,

3. then i created a view on the name table

select decode(sec_func('EMP','EMP_NAME'),1,emp_name,'x' emp_name),
decode(sec_func('EMP','EMP_SAL'),1,emp_sal,0 emp_sal)

the sec_func is passed table name and the column name and it checks the
security_level of that column againet the security level of the user 
quering the table. if the security level is equal or lower, then 1 is 
returned, else 0 is returned, and the decode in the view will do the rest

this way i can show/hide columns based on the security level (or roles 
granted to users) ... 

ok, i have only tested it, not implemented it, will it work in a real 
application environment ? has anyone used this type of column privs ? 

-TIA


=
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:24:36 -0800, "Arup Nanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote :

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> 
> 
> Rahul,
> 
> I'm not sure if this is too late; but here is a strategy you could follow 
to achieve what you want. True, VPD does not have a mechanism to suppress 
columns; and using a view for each user is impractical. Someday, I hope, 
VPD will have that capability; but until then you could try the following. 
> 
> Suppose you have a table called SAVINGS, for savings account holders as 
follows:
> 
> ACCTNO NUMBER
> CLEARED_BALANCENUMBER
> UNCLEARED_BALANCE  NUMBER
> 
> The records in the table are as follows:
> 
> ACCTNO CLEARED_BALANCE UNCLEARED_BALANCE
> -- --- -
>  11000  1100
>  21100  1200
>  31300  1500
> 
> Cleared balance is the amount the the customer can draw from the bank. If 
there are checks outstanding, the balance is shown in uncleared. Let's 
start with a simple example - you have users who are allowed to see the 
uncleared balance of the customers and the others are not. Intead of hiding 
the column completely, which how VPD operates, you would want to show then 
as zero, if not authorized to see that; otherwise the actual value is shown.
> 
> You would create a context as follows:
> 
> create context sec_ctx using sec_ctx_pkg;
> 
> The trusted function can be created as:
> 
>  create procedure sec_ctx_pkg
>  (
>  p_attribute_name in varchar2,
>  p_attribute_value in varchar2
>  ) is
>  begin
>  dbms_session.set_context(
> 'sec_ctx',
>  p_attribute_name,
>  p_attribute_value);
>  end;
>  /
> 
> In the after-login trigger, you would set the context value automatically 
for user using 
> 
> set_Ctx_pkg ('cleared', 'yes'); or set_Ctx_pkg ('cleared', 'no'); 
depending on whether the user is cleared to see the balance or not. In real 
life, you may have a table that lists all users and whether or not they are 
cleared. The after-logon trigger could read that table and set the context 
attribute properly.
> 
> Next, you would craete a view. 
> 
> create or replace view vw_savings
> as
> select acctno, cleared_balance,
> decode(sys_context('sec_ctx','cleared'),'yes',
> uncleared_balance, 0) uncleared_balance
> from savings
> /
> 
> Note: there is only ONE view, not one per user. Regardless of how many 
users you have, there will be only one view.
> 
> Now to test the setup. Assume user RAHUL is allowed to see the 
uncleared_balance. The after-logon trigger will set the context 
attribute "cleared" to "yes" when the user logs in. When the user selects:
> 
> select * from vw_savings;
> 
> He sees:
> 
>ACCTNO CLEARED_BALANCE UNCLEARED_BALANCE
> - --- -
> 11000  1100
> 21100  1200
> 31300  1500
> 
> Which is the correct value. Now, user ARUP logs in, who does not have the 
authority to see the uncleared balance. The logon trigger will set the 
attribute to "no" and the same select will now produce:
> 
> ACCTNO CLEARED_BALANCE UNCLEARED_BALANCE
> -- --- -
>  11000 0
>  21100 0
>  31300 0
> 
> Note: How the uncleared balance is 0

RE: 9iR2, grant select on a column (without using views) using RL

2003-08-24 Thread rahul
how would i write a policy which retuns selected columns if the user has 
issued select * from tab ??? 

using views for each user would work, but then.. i would end up with 
so many views in the main schema !!! ;-(


On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 12:24:39 -0800, "Jamadagni, Rajendra" 
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> Use RLS ...
> 
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> 
> list, i'm ikn the process of designing security for a highly sensitive 
> schema for a bank, 
> 
> plan:
> have multiple oracle users, and use roles, and grant minimum required 
> privs, all the user/role/privs management coded in the application (with 
in 
> turn would create the db role and user etc) 
> 
> probolem:
> i cannot do a "grant select(col1)on tabname to role1", as select grant on 
a 
> column level is not supported, to workaround this i must
> 
> 1) use views and include all the columns granted seleted privs for a 
user, 
> then give grant select on this view to user.
> 
> 2) somehow use RLS ?? 
> 
> TIA
> 
> -Rahul
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RE: 9iR2, grant select on a column (without using views) using RL

2003-08-24 Thread rahul
how would i write a policy which retuns selected columns if the user has 
issued select * from tab ??? 

using views for each user would work, but then.. i would end up with 
so many views in the main schema !!! ;-(


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> 
> list, i'm ikn the process of designing security for a highly sensitive 
> schema for a bank, 
> 
> plan:
> have multiple oracle users, and use roles, and grant minimum required 
> privs, all the user/role/privs management coded in the application (with 
in 
> turn would create the db role and user etc) 
> 
> probolem:
> i cannot do a "grant select(col1)on tabname to role1", as select grant on 
a 
> column level is not supported, to workaround this i must
> 
> 1) use views and include all the columns granted seleted privs for a 
user, 
> then give grant select on this view to user.
> 
> 2) somehow use RLS ?? 
> 
> TIA
> 
> -Rahul
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9iR2, grant select on a column (without using views) using RLS

2003-08-22 Thread rahul
list, i'm ikn the process of designing security for a highly sensitive 
schema for a bank, 

plan:
have multiple oracle users, and use roles, and grant minimum required 
privs, all the user/role/privs management coded in the application (with in 
turn would create the db role and user etc) 

probolem:
i cannot do a "grant select(col1)on tabname to role1", as select grant on a 
column level is not supported, to workaround this i must

1) use views and include all the columns granted seleted privs for a user, 
then give grant select on this view to user.

2) somehow use RLS ?? 

TIA

-Rahul

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indexing PDF's using intermedia (8.1.7), not happening

2003-07-30 Thread rahul sharma



List, 
 
I have installed intermedia, and been using it for 
the last couple of weeks without nay problems,
recently, after uploading a PDF documents in the 
blob column, i found out that the contents of PDF's are
not being indexed !!! i have tried sync the index 
also..  all the other formats (word,ppt' etc) are indexed
automatically (m running the ctxsrv) 
 
the ctxsys.ctx_index_errors tables show the 
following error when i try to index...
 
DRG-11101: failed to open file 
C:\WINNT\TEMP\drgut27    
 
i have searched metalink, and it says to create a 
new filter.. i did that too.. 
 
SQL>  exec 
ctx_ddl.create_preference('myfilter', 'USER_FILTER'); 
SQL>  exec 
ctx_ddl.set_attribute('myfilter', 'command', 'auto_filt.bat');
 
SQL> create index idx_documents on 
documents(blob_content)INDEXTYPE is ctxsys.context parameters 
('filter myfilter section group ctxsys.html_section_group');
 
but still the PDF's do not appear in index !!!, all 
metalink docs point to ORA_HOME/ctx/bin directory !!
but i could not locate the directory on my NT 
server !!! very wierd indeed... 
 
again.. the indexing works for all other formats... 
other than PDF's 
 
TIA
 
Rahul
 
 
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Re: a simple xml output using stylsheet

2003-07-27 Thread rahul sharma



thanks Charu, i have used this example 
successfully... but nowhere it's tell me how to use/attach a stylesheet 

to format my XML output !!!
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Charu 
  Joshi 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 1:29 PM
  Subject: RE: a simple xml output using 
  stylsheet
  
  Hi 
  Rahul,
   
  Have 
  a look at http://otn.oracle.com/tech/xml and 
  also 'Oracle Application Developers Guide - XML'. There is a utility called 
  XSQL which does this for you. Here's an example of that utility cut from the 
  above mentioned guide (for 8i):
   
  
  declare
  queryCtx DBMS_XMLquery.ctxType;
  result CLOB;
  begin
  -- set up the query context...!
  queryCtx := 
  DBMS_XMLQuery.newContext('select * from emp');
  -- get the result..!
  result := 
  DBMS_XMLQuery.getXML(queryCtx);
  -- Now you can use the result to put 
  it in tables/send as messages..
  printClobOut(result);
  DBMS_XMLQuery.closeContext(queryCtx); 
  -- you must close the query handle..
  end;
  /
  The printClobOut procedure is :
  /CREATE OR REPLACE 
  PROCEDURE printClobOut(result IN OUT NOCOPY CLOB) is
  xmlstr varchar2(32767);
  line varchar2(2000);
  begin
  xmlstr := dbms_lob.SUBSTR(result,32767);
  loop
  exit when xmlstr is null;
  line := substr(xmlstr,1,instr(xmlstr,chr(10))-1);
  dbms_output.put_line('| '||line);
  xmlstr := substr(xmlstr,instr(xmlstr,chr(10))+1);
  end loop;
  end;
  /
  Hope that helps,
  Regards,
  Charu.
   
   
  
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stylsheet
dear list, can anyone please point me to a 
simple example of select * from emp; query
and the output displayed in xml (using a simple 
stylesheet) ...
we have not been able to locate this 
    on the net... 
 
TIA
-Rahul
 
 
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a simple xml output using stylsheet

2003-07-27 Thread rahul sharma



dear list, can anyone please point me to a simple 
example of select * from emp; query
and the output displayed in xml (using a simple 
stylesheet) ...
we have not been able to locate this on 
the net... 
 
TIA
-Rahul
 
 
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RE: imp table data, but not PK indexes?

2003-07-19 Thread rahul
as PK comes under 'constraints' you might also have to do constraints=N 
also... 

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 07:04:23 -0800, "Ganesh Raja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote :

> Use the Indexes = N Option and Create the Index Seperatley .. 
> 
> AFAIK that should work ... 
> 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I sent this yesterday but it did not seem to get posted. Anyway I am
> posting it again.
> 
> I am trying to speed up a schema imp process by import data and indexes
> separately to an Oracle 8173 db. While importing table data, I don't
> want to import PK indexes which are sitting in tablespace "indexes"
> (because I can create PK indexes later from a script), So I have this
> running before imp data:
> 
> alter user ABC quota 0 on indexes;
> alter user ABC quota unlimited on ABC_DEFAULT_TS;
> 
> I found that this way the PK indexes are imported in ABC_DEFAULT_TS,
> together with table data. So my question is what I can/should do so that
> I can imp only table data into ABC_DEFAULT_TS, and not imp PK indexes at
> the same time?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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RE: imp table data, but not PK indexes?

2003-07-19 Thread rahul
as PK comes under 'constraints' you might also have to do constraints=N 
also... 

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 07:04:23 -0800, "Ganesh Raja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote :

> Use the Indexes = N Option and Create the Index Seperatley .. 
> 
> AFAIK that should work ... 
> 
> Regards,
> Ganesh R
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> Guang Mei
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:14 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I sent this yesterday but it did not seem to get posted. Anyway I am
> posting it again.
> 
> I am trying to speed up a schema imp process by import data and indexes
> separately to an Oracle 8173 db. While importing table data, I don't
> want to import PK indexes which are sitting in tablespace "indexes"
> (because I can create PK indexes later from a script), So I have this
> running before imp data:
> 
> alter user ABC quota 0 on indexes;
> alter user ABC quota unlimited on ABC_DEFAULT_TS;
> 
> I found that this way the PK indexes are imported in ABC_DEFAULT_TS,
> together with table data. So my question is what I can/should do so that
> I can imp only table data into ABC_DEFAULT_TS, and not imp PK indexes at
> the same time?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Guang
> 
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weird behavior of utl_file_dir

2003-07-07 Thread rahul sharma
list, i created a new instance of 8.1.7 on Hp-UX and because some of the
front end programs use
utl package to write the log files to the server, i did this.

UTL_FILE_DIR = /u1/app/oracle/admin/BIS/utl_dir/

note the slash in the end in the front end programs.. we are also using
directory name with the slash
in the end...

until yesterday ALL our programs were working fine !! and sure enough we got
the files created in the
aboe directory.!!! but suddenly today, all the programs are returing
"invalid operation" from utl_file package !!!

according to oracle we should remove the slash.. (which i'm going to do
today) .. but i;m curious why everything worked
without any errors until now !!!

-rahul





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(solved?) cannot disable or drop the ON DATABASE trigger !

2003-07-06 Thread rahul
ok... now i'm praying... cos after i had sent this mail to the list askling 
for suggestions.. my junior DBA deleted the trigger from trigger$ ! 
things are "ok now" he says... and this _is_ a production schema.. ! 

we are _not_ encountring any errors now, but i did shutdown/startup and 
took a new base backup and i will   continue to pray for some time to 
come...  ;-(( 

-rahul

PS: this startup migrate is news to me.. i should have looked some more in 
the manuals... big thanks.. 


On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 10:24:24 -0800, Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> 
> D'oh!
> 
> Shoulda thought of that.  It's standard
> procedures on upgrades.
> 
> Thanks Mladen.
> 
> 
> On Friday 04 July 2003 11:29, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> > Parameter to disable database triggers is:
> >
> > _system_trig_enabled = FALSE
> >
> > This is 9i parameter. Alternatively, if you start the database up in the
> > "migrate" mode, system triggers will be disable ("startup migrate" is 
what
> > you need)
> >
> > On 2003.07.04 10:54, "Jamadagni, Rajendra" wrote:
> > > This will teach you that you should be _very_ careful when dealing 
with
> > > sys schema.
> > >
> > > what's that parameter to disable sys triggers ??
> > >
> > > 1. Call OWS
> > > 2. If this is production DB, keep your resume ready.
> > >
> > > Raj
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 1:39 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > At first glance it appears that you have created a self referencing
> > > trigger.
> > >
> > > You can't drop it, because dropping it fires the trigger.
> > >
> > > Check metalink, open a TAR, etc.
> > >
> > > Jared
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "rahul sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >  07/03/2003 03:40 AM
> > >  Please respond to ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc:
> > > Subject:cannot disable or drop the ON DATABASE trigger
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Help list... i have created the following in 8.1.5 instance
> > >
> > > CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER DDL_TRIGGER BEFORE
> > > CREATE OR ALTER OR DROP ON DATABASE
> > >
> > > BEGIN
> > > null;
> > > END;
> > > /
> > >
> > > and now i cannot drop or disable this trigger 
> > >
> > > ERROR at line 1:
> > > ORA-04045: errors during recompilation/revalidation of SYS.DDL_TRIGGER
> > >
> > >
> > > i'm loggin into svrmgrl and connecting as internal to try drop or
> > > disable..
> > > is this a bug ??
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Rahul..
> > >
> > >
> > >
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(solved?) cannot disable or drop the ON DATABASE trigger !

2003-07-06 Thread rahul
ok... now i'm praying... cos after i had sent this mail to the list askling 
for suggestions.. my junior DBA deleted the trigger from trigger$ ! 
things are "ok now" he says... and this _is_ a production schema.. ! 

we are _not_ encountring any errors now, but i did shutdown/startup and 
took a new base backup and i will   continue to pray for some time to 
come...  ;-(( 

-rahul

PS: this startup migrate is news to me.. i should have looked some more in 
the manuals... big thanks.. 


On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 10:24:24 -0800, Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> 
> D'oh!
> 
> Shoulda thought of that.  It's standard
> procedures on upgrades.
> 
> Thanks Mladen.
> 
> 
> On Friday 04 July 2003 11:29, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> > Parameter to disable database triggers is:
> >
> > _system_trig_enabled = FALSE
> >
> > This is 9i parameter. Alternatively, if you start the database up in the
> > "migrate" mode, system triggers will be disable ("startup migrate" is 
what
> > you need)
> >
> > On 2003.07.04 10:54, "Jamadagni, Rajendra" wrote:
> > > This will teach you that you should be _very_ careful when dealing 
with
> > > sys schema.
> > >
> > > what's that parameter to disable sys triggers ??
> > >
> > > 1. Call OWS
> > > 2. If this is production DB, keep your resume ready.
> > >
> > > Raj
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 1:39 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > At first glance it appears that you have created a self referencing
> > > trigger.
> > >
> > > You can't drop it, because dropping it fires the trigger.
> > >
> > > Check metalink, open a TAR, etc.
> > >
> > > Jared
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "rahul sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >  07/03/2003 03:40 AM
> > >  Please respond to ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc:
> > > Subject:cannot disable or drop the ON DATABASE trigger
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Help list... i have created the following in 8.1.5 instance
> > >
> > > CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER DDL_TRIGGER BEFORE
> > > CREATE OR ALTER OR DROP ON DATABASE
> > >
> > > BEGIN
> > > null;
> > > END;
> > > /
> > >
> > > and now i cannot drop or disable this trigger 
> > >
> > > ERROR at line 1:
> > > ORA-04045: errors during recompilation/revalidation of SYS.DDL_TRIGGER
> > >
> > >
> > > i'm loggin into svrmgrl and connecting as internal to try drop or
> > > disable..
> > > is this a bug ??
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Rahul..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net
> > > --
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cannot disable or drop the ON DATABASE trigger !!!!

2003-07-03 Thread rahul sharma
Help list... i have created the following in 8.1.5 instance

CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER DDL_TRIGGER BEFORE
CREATE OR ALTER OR DROP ON DATABASE

BEGIN
null;
END;
/

and now i cannot drop or disable this trigger 

ERROR at line 1:
ORA-04045: errors during recompilation/revalidation of SYS.DDL_TRIGGER


i'm loggin into svrmgrl and connecting as internal to try drop or disable..
is this a bug ??

TIA

Rahul..



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version control for pl/sql dev forms etc.

2003-06-15 Thread rahul sharma
List, we are looking for a version control software for our application
code. All the code is
developed using dev6i, pl/sql. is there a product focused towards oracle
tools ? we are looking for
something which can compare two forms or reports!! and provide basic
check-in-out facility

TIA
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uploade using pl/sql gateway, ias

2003-05-28 Thread rahul sharma
applogies for posting this in the DBA forum...

list, i'm uploading files from my client browser to the database using the
pl/sql gateway (mod pl/sql)
on ias. Everything is working, but i cannot find the procedure which
actually uploads the file!!! the upload
procedure is simply.. a procedure that dosnt do anything,  it's jsut called
!!

PROCEDURE upload_doc(name IN owa.vc_arr) IS

BEGIN
 htp.p('uploaded');
END;

now i hv made the name of the documents as a PK in the document table.. and
when uploading the same document again,
i want to display an eror... but where to put that pl/sql code to display
the error  i hv tried writing the expection
in the above procedure.. but seems like this procedure is called AFTER the
file is magically uploaded in the DB !!

TIA
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startup hangs, 8.1.7 on win2000 Pentium 4

2003-03-30 Thread rahul
list, this started occuring since 2 days ago..when we try to startup the 
instance using svrmgrl, after listing the SGA, the machine will just 
lock !!! no cursor , no keys.. just total lock.. the alert log show 
"alter database mount" as the last entry.. 

i have searched metalink on this.. but cannot find anything related to 
hanging issue on windows..

has someone else encountered this ? 

TIA
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standby on SAN ? or use internal storage

2003-03-23 Thread Rahul



list, i'm a bit confused on whether to put the 
standby DB on the SAN storage or 
use the internal storage of the standby host !!! 

 
config a
two instances on primary server, data-files on SAN, 
hot standby db files on SAN too.
standby instances for both primary on another 
machine
 
config b
both primary on SAN, standby db files on the 
itnernal storage of standby machine
 
any thoughts  ? 
 
TIA
Rahul
 


2 servers 2 DB with SAN, here's my config

2003-03-14 Thread Rahul



list,  once our client decides to buy SAN, 
here's what i'm going to propose for high availbility
 
we have 2 servers HP-UX and two databases, storage 
is internal, once SAN is in place, i propose to 
put both the DB's on the same server (one of the DB 
is not busy, less than 10 concurrent users) 
and place all the dbfiles on the SAN storage, and 
use the remaining server to be used as a hot backup instance
for both the primaries running on the other server. 
the hot backup datafiles archive logs will be on the SAN too.
 
my questions:
1) should i keep one DB per machine and backup of 
DB1 is on server 2 and backup of DB2 is on server1?
2) should the hot standby dbfiles/archivelogs be on 
the SAN ? or the internal drives of the backuo machine ? the SAN can also go 
down !!
 
regards
 
 
 
 
 


Re: why SAN ? why not external storage ?

2003-03-12 Thread Rahul



my reasons to recommend an external storage 
was..
1) the database size is 36GB, and according to many 
documents i have read, SAN is not cost effevtive unless populated 
by a large numbers of drives !!, now for the client 
the cost is not the factor.. given the situation.. wouldnt a SAN be an overkill 
? 
 
2) NO DBA or SYS ADMIN skills to manage the SAN !! 

 

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  PM
  Subject: Re: why SAN ? why not external 
  storage ?
  
  Can you share some of the reasons 
  related to your decision in choosing a direct-attach storage (DAS) 
  instead of a SAN?  In general, a SAN is a much smarter choice than 
  DAS.
  
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To: Multiple 
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Subject: why SAN ? why not external 
storage ?

list, one of our clietns are going to by SAN, 
the current oracle databases take around 
36GB of storage i dnt understand there 
reason to go for SAN, i sugguested to buy an external storage 
box instead. How can i justify my desicion ? 
(cost of not the factor) 
 
TIA
rahul
 
 
 


why SAN ? why not external storage ?

2003-03-12 Thread Rahul



list, one of our clietns are going to by SAN, the 
current oracle databases take around 
36GB of storage i dnt understand there reason 
to go for SAN, i sugguested to buy an external storage 
box instead. How can i justify my desicion ? (cost 
of not the factor) 
 
TIA
rahul
 
 
 


Re: how to find the version ?

2003-02-11 Thread rahul
i found the solution shortly after i sent the mail.. runinstaller and it 
will show all the installed product with verions ;-)) 



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version 
> of forms/reports server !!.. could anyone point out the method ? 
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Re: how to find the version ?

2003-02-11 Thread rahul
i found the solution shortly after i sent the mail.. runinstaller and it 
will show all the installed product with verions ;-)) 



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> 
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> asked to audit the setup !! to start, i simply want to find out the 
version 
> of forms/reports server !!.. could anyone point out the method ? 
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how to find the version ?

2003-02-11 Thread rahul
list, my appologies for asking question regarding ias (solaris), but i 
could not find any info regarding this on the net.. 

i'm on solaris, running ias, i'm new to this environment, and have been 
asked to audit the setup !! to start, i simply want to find out the version 
of forms/reports server !!.. could anyone point out the method ? 
thanks and regards

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RE: Faking an ORA-600

2002-12-19 Thread Rahul
this is sooo cool... i mean these tiny small things.. wich are hidden in
oralce supplied packages...!!

thanks Jared...

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> If you are monitoring the alert.log, try dbms_system.ksdwrt
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> http://www.oracledba.co.uk/tips/plsql_alert_log.htm
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> We are trying to test out monitoring software (on a test database at
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> to
> monitor for, but have been unable to generate an ORA-600.  Does anyone 
> have
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> TIA.
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RE: how many records will be keep in v$log_history?

2002-12-17 Thread Rahul
while creating the instance, parameter MAXLOGHISTORY specifies this...
my guess is that you have to recreate the controlfiles

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phyrds in v$filestat and sql trace not match !!

2002-11-12 Thread Rahul
list, 
i'm doing benchmarking using two DB's with different block size
i run a count(*) on a 17 million row table, and compare the sql_trace file 
and the v$filestat stats..
the db was bounced before each test, the init.ora params were identical,
EXCEPT 
in DB1 (4k block size) the muldiblock read was 16, and DB2(block size 8k) it
was 8

4 samples were taken...

CPU time : 
DB1 = 9023
DB2 = 8027

elapsed time:
DB1 = 19171
DB2 = 18045

phy reads: (from sql_trace) 
DB1 = 327022
DB2 = 159347

PHYRDS from v$filestat 
DB1 = 16386
DB2 = 16385

PHYBLKRDS from v$filestat
DB1 = 262148
DB2 = 131073

my question is... why the physical reads in the v$filestat are equal ?? but
the p reads in the sql_trace 
file are different ??

TIA
rahul








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cant set multiblock read count > 8 !!!

2002-11-12 Thread Rahul
list !!
my ora7.3.2 instance on AIX with a db_block_size of 4k has a 
multi block read count of 16 !! 

i thought i would create a new instance with a block size of 8k, so i can
set 
the max multiblock read count to more than 16, BUT, after creating the new
instance
the db_multiblock_read_count *always* defaults to 8 !! 

here the new instance params

db_files = 16
db_file_multiblock_read_count = 32
db_block_buffers = 3840
db_file_simultaneous_writes = 8
db_block_lru_latches = 8
shared_pool_size = 31457280

which of these parameter is affecting the value of multiblock read count ???


TIA
Rahul

PS: i hv checked the multiblock reads using ixora script... always 8 !!



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strange (?) ora7 behaviour using CTAS

2002-11-08 Thread Rahul
list... this is something i cannot explain..

goal: to CTAS in a newly created tablespace

1) i created two raw devices test01 and test02

2) create tablespace test datafile '/dev/rtest01' size 1040m;

3) alter tablespace test add datafile '/dev/rtest02' size 1040m;

4) create table ratedlocal_test
tablespace test
storage(initial 1016m next 896 minextents 2 pctincrease 0 freelists 2)
unrecoverable
parallel 3
as (select * from ratedlocalcalls)
/

when the table creation was going on.. i happen to look at the v$filestat
numbers, i found 
that the raw device TEST02 was being written to first !!! (it's the SECOND
datafile in the tablespace creation) 

my understanding is that when a table is created, the extents are
(initially) taken from the datafile which is 
the first file when the tbs was created !!! 

what could be the logic behind this ?? 




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OT: RAID 7137 configutation on AIX

2002-11-08 Thread Rahul
> list, 
> we are trying to install the external disk array IBM 1737 to our J50
> rs/6000
> we do not have any documents/manuals .. this disk array can be configured
> as raid5 
> or raid0, but how to configure it ?? anyone ? 
> 
> TIA
> Rahul
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CA tools for d/w ?

2002-11-03 Thread Rahul
list,  is anyone using CA's ETL and reporting tools for a d/w ? 
would you recommend these for a big d/w ? 

we plan to recommend the following:

- oracle 9i (partitioning, data mining options) 
- data warehouse builder
- CA's Cleverpath set of tools (olap/reporting) 





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RE: 9iAS install problem

2002-10-30 Thread Rahul
maria believe me..it would be much easier if u installed the
infrastructure and the app server
on two separate machines..  i was also facing the similar problems..then
i split the two installs
and everything was fine

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> I'm sitting in front of a networked PC, running RedHat 7.2 and Oracle 9i 
> 9.0.1.0.0.I also have a networked Windows2000 box with Forms 6i on it,
> 
> upon which I have managed to build a simple form on top of my 9i database,
> 
> and run it client-server style.
> 
> My ultimate aim is to have an environment for developing and deploying 
> forms using Form Builder, using 9iAS, over the web.  I'd like to do my 
> forms development on my windows box, but have the Application Server and 
> database on the linux box.
> 
> Looking through the "Installed products" bit of the Oracle installer on my
> 
> linux box, I note that the machine also has 9iAS Developer Kits 9.0.2.0.1 
> installed.
> My understanding is that I also need to install the following products :
> Oracle 9iAS Infrastructure 9.0.2.0.1
> Oracle 9i Application Server 9.0.2.0.1
> 
> On attempting to install the Infrastructure, I got the following error:
> 
> "Oracle 9iAS installation has detected that the Enterprise Manager Website
> 
> is running on the system.  Install cannot continue unless the Enterprise 
> Manager Website is shut down.  To shut down the Enterprise Manager
> Website, 
> at the command line, unset the ORACLE_HOME environment variable and run
> the 
> command /u01/app/oracle/OraASHome/bin/emclt stop. After installation 
> completes, please restart the Enterprise Manager Website using the command
> /u01/app/oracle/OraASHome/bin/emclt start."
> 
> So I unset the ORACLE_HOME, and stopped emclt (I bounced it couple of 
> times, for good measure, and I think it stopped OK).  I continued to get 
> the same error. I even tried rebooting the machine, and not starting 
> anything up at all.  Same problem.
> 
> Now it's possible that I'm barking up the wrong tree - I'm a developer and
> 
> this kind of work, has, in the past, been done by someone else.  My 
> experience of installing Oracle products is limited (and peppered with 
> disappointment), and despite my willingness to RTFM, I often can't work 
> figure out which FM to R. ;-)   I've stated my overall aim at the top of 
> this email - am I even close to achieving it?
> 
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question on data warehouse tools by oracle

2002-10-29 Thread Rahul
list, 
i'm in the process of recommending Oracle as a "completel solution" for a
;large 
data warehouse (for a central bank) . After doing thru some of the
documentation on OTN ..i have the following info
on the products i would need. Please comment if i'm missing something 

- 9i database (with data mining option ?? wil this help ?) 
- Oracle warehouse builder (is this the GUI to develope the ETL procedures
etc ???) 
- Oracle 9i reports 
- 9i App server( portal, reports server)  to deploy and distribute the
reports
- discoverer( required ?? ) 


(..do i realy require the following??? ) 

- OLAP 
- express server / analyzer 

TIA
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RE: can clustering help INSERTS ?

2002-10-27 Thread Rahul
top waits from system_event, when i siad "no waits" .. i ment no waits while
querying session_wait !!
offcourse a DB WILL experience waits... but, are these waits slowing down my
inserts ??

these stats are after the insertion of 16 million rows, the table in
question is the only table on that disk


EVENT  TOTAL_WAITS TOTAL_TIMEOUTS SEC_WAITED AVERAGE_WAIT
--- --- -- --

parallel query dequeue wait  314695 314824  629392.78
200.000883
db file parallel write281993563850.24
13.6538175
db file sequential read  650214  02681.93
.412468818
buffer busy waits 31427 16 955.09
3.03907468
latch free  1623885  42121 818.44
.050400121
log file parallel write   25338  0 737.44
2.91041124
db file scattered read50131  0 690.79
1.37796972
log file sync 10085  3 144.78
1.43559742



> > the DB is *not* experiencing any waits... i'm trying to bring down the
> run
> > time of the
> > insertion process, currently it takes around 9 hrs... the management
> wants
> > to bring it
> > down to 5-6 hrs...again.. i OD NOT see any wait events while the process
> is
> > running..
> >
> > there are no indexes on the tables
> >
> > > --
> > > From: Tim Gorman[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:13 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: Re: can clustering help INSERTS ?
> > >
> > > Rahul,
> > >
> > > It does no good to speculate;  let's work with facts...
> > >
> > > What wait-events are occurring in the sessions running the INSERTs?
> If
> > > you
> > > can locate the sessions in the V$SESSION view, then use the value in
> the
> > > column SID to locate associated rows in the V$SESSION_EVENT view,
> sorting
> > > by
> > > the cumulative time spent on each wait-event:
> > >
> > > selectevent, time_waited, average_time, max_time
> > > fromv$session_event
> > > wheresid = &&SID
> > > union
> > > selectn.name, s.value, 0, 0
> > > fromv$sesstat s, v$statname n
> > > wheres.sid = &&SID
> > > andn.name in ('CPU used by this session','parse time
> > > cpu','recursive
> > > cpu usage')
> > > ands.statistic# = n.statistic#
> > > order by 2 desc
> > >
> > > As you can see, in addition to wait-event information, this query will
> > > also
> > > mix in CPU statistics from the V$SESSTAT view, to give a better
> picture
> of
> > > where time is being spent by these sessions...
> > >
> > > Can you post the results of these queries back to the list?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > -Tim
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 6:18 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > > List,
> > > > i have two heavily inserted tables, the structures are same.
> > > > currently these tables reside on separate disks, can i increase the
> > > > performance
> > > > of inserts if i create these tables in a cluster ? as a cluster
> would
> > > force
> > > > the rows of both the tables
> > > > to be physically close on the disk !
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > > -rahul
> > > >
> > > > Ora 7.3 on AIX
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RE: can clustering help INSERTS ?

2002-10-27 Thread Rahul
;-) 
the only waits i see are "parallel query dequeue wait", and sometimes
v$session_wait shows "write complete waits"  .. 
but i'm sure these are not slowing down the process... (or are they ?) 
as most of the time v$session_wait does not return a row !!
and i query this view once every second 

Rahul

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> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rahul
> Subject:  Re: can clustering help INSERTS ?
> 
> 
> *no* waits?
> 
> How is this possible?
> 
> Is intantaneous computing now a reality?
> 
> Sorry for the sarcasm. Wait, no, not really.  ;)
> 
> Seriously, all databases wait, all operations take
> time.  The question on everyone's lips is
> 'How long are *yours* taking?'
> 
> Jared
> 
> On Saturday 26 October 2002 00:33, Rahul wrote:
> > the DB is *not* experiencing any waits... i'm trying to bring down the
> run
> > time of the
> > insertion process, currently it takes around 9 hrs... the management
> wants
> > to bring it
> > down to 5-6 hrs...again.. i OD NOT see any wait events while the process
> is
> > running..
> >
> > there are no indexes on the tables
> >
> > > --
> > > From: Tim Gorman[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:13 PM
> > > To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject:  Re: can clustering help INSERTS ?
> > >
> > > Rahul,
> > >
> > > It does no good to speculate;  let's work with facts...
> > >
> > > What wait-events are occurring in the sessions running the INSERTs?
> If
> > > you
> > > can locate the sessions in the V$SESSION view, then use the value in
> the
> > > column SID to locate associated rows in the V$SESSION_EVENT view,
> sorting
> > > by
> > > the cumulative time spent on each wait-event:
> > >
> > > selectevent, time_waited, average_time, max_time
> > > fromv$session_event
> > > wheresid = &&SID
> > > union
> > > selectn.name, s.value, 0, 0
> > > fromv$sesstat s, v$statname n
> > > wheres.sid = &&SID
> > > andn.name in ('CPU used by this session','parse time
> > > cpu','recursive
> > > cpu usage')
> > > ands.statistic# = n.statistic#
> > > order by 2 desc
> > >
> > > As you can see, in addition to wait-event information, this query will
> > > also
> > > mix in CPU statistics from the V$SESSTAT view, to give a better
> picture
> > > of where time is being spent by these sessions...
> > >
> > > Can you post the results of these queries back to the list?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > -Tim
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 6:18 AM
> > >
> > > > List,
> > > > i have two heavily inserted tables, the structures are same.
> > > > currently these tables reside on separate disks, can i increase the
> > > > performance
> > > > of inserts if i create these tables in a cluster ? as a cluster
> would
> > >
> > > force
> > >
> > > > the rows of both the tables
> > > > to be physically close on the disk !
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > > -rahul
> > > >
> > > > Ora 7.3 on AIX
> 
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RE: can clustering help INSERTS ?

2002-10-25 Thread Rahul
the DB is *not* experiencing any waits... i'm trying to bring down the run
time of the 
insertion process, currently it takes around 9 hrs... the management wants
to bring it 
down to 5-6 hrs...again.. i OD NOT see any wait events while the process is
running.. 

there are no indexes on the tables

> --
> From: Tim Gorman[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:13 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  Re: can clustering help INSERTS ?
> 
> Rahul,
> 
> It does no good to speculate;  let's work with facts...
> 
> What wait-events are occurring in the sessions running the INSERTs?  If
> you
> can locate the sessions in the V$SESSION view, then use the value in the
> column SID to locate associated rows in the V$SESSION_EVENT view, sorting
> by
> the cumulative time spent on each wait-event:
> 
> selectevent, time_waited, average_time, max_time
> fromv$session_event
> wheresid = &&SID
> union
> selectn.name, s.value, 0, 0
> fromv$sesstat s, v$statname n
> wheres.sid = &&SID
> andn.name in ('CPU used by this session','parse time
> cpu','recursive
> cpu usage')
> ands.statistic# = n.statistic#
> order by 2 desc
> 
> As you can see, in addition to wait-event information, this query will
> also
> mix in CPU statistics from the V$SESSTAT view, to give a better picture of
> where time is being spent by these sessions...
> 
> Can you post the results of these queries back to the list?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Tim
> 
> - Original Message -
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 6:18 AM
> 
> 
> > List,
> > i have two heavily inserted tables, the structures are same.
> > currently these tables reside on separate disks, can i increase the
> > performance
> > of inserts if i create these tables in a cluster ? as a cluster would
> force
> > the rows of both the tables
> > to be physically close on the disk !
> >
> > regards
> > -rahul
> >
> > Ora 7.3 on AIX
> >
> >
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can clustering help INSERTS ?

2002-10-25 Thread Rahul
List, 
i have two heavily inserted tables, the structures are same. 
currently these tables reside on separate disks, can i increase the
performance
of inserts if i create these tables in a cluster ? as a cluster would force
the rows of both the tables 
to be physically close on the disk !

regards
-rahul

Ora 7.3 on AIX



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how many async_io processes to invoke? - AIX ora 7.3

2002-10-24 Thread Rahul
list, 
to give async_io a boost, i increased the minimum server parameter in AIX 
to 15 (from 2) .. 

now while doing a ps -Al i see only 4 kproc which are busy !! rest has ZERO
excution time
infront of them.. !!

how do i determine the optimum number of minimum async_io servers for a db
which has

1) all files (17 of them) on raw volumes, spread over 4 disks
2) two files are hot.. both on separate hdisks
3) process inserts 20million+ records in two big tables


TIA

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desc order index

2002-10-22 Thread Rahul Mehendale
Hi

I create a table as follows:

create table a ( a number(1));

Then I create index as :

create index ia on a(a desc);

If i see the index columns as :

select index_name, table_name, column_name, column_position from
all_ind_columns where table_name = 'A';


index_name  table_name  column_name column_position
IA  A   SYS_NC2$1



What is the reason for the change in the column name of the index. How to
avoid this?

TIA

-rM

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[no subject]

2002-10-21 Thread Rahul Mehendale
Hi

I have unpartitioned table with aroung 2 million rows. When I was creating
an index on the table, it failed as it was not able to extend the temp
segment. I added a temp segment and recreated the index.

But now i see the index is created on some columns which cannot be seen in
the DESCRIBE TABLE command.

The columns created are :

SYS_NC00022$
SYS_NC00023$
SYS_NC00024$
SYS_NC00025$
SYS_NC00026$
SYS_NC00027$

What are these columns. When I do a describe on the table, I cannot see
these columns but when I do a select as follows, I see some data in these
columns :

SELECT
SYS_NC00022$,SYS_NC00023$,SYS_NC00024$,SYS_NC00025$,SYS_NC00026$,SYS_NC00027
$ FROM  ;

SYS_NC00022$SYS_NC00023$SYS_NC00024$SYS_NC00025$SYS_NC00026$
SYS_NC00027$
AFD2BAFFC8FFC7CCFF  CFFF   
 CFFFCEFF
AFD2BAFFC8FFC7CFFF  CFFF   
 CFFFCEFF
AFD2BAFFCAFFCCCAFF  CFFF   
 CFFFCEFF
BAB3BAFFC8FFC9CFFF  CFFF   
 CFFFCEFF
ACBABCFFC8FFCDCAFF  C8FF   
 C8FFC9FF
AFD2BAFFC8FFC7CBFF  CFFF   
 CFFFCEFF


..




What are these columns and what is the data contained in it?

TIA
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SYS Columns added to the table

2002-10-21 Thread Rahul Mehendale
Hi

I have table with aroung 2 million rows. When I was creating an index on the
table, it failed as it was not able to extend the temp segment. I added a
temp segment and recreated the index.

But now i see the index is created on some columns which cannot be seen in
the DESCRIBE TABLE command.

The columns created are :

SYS_NC00022$
SYS_NC00022$
SYS_NC00022$
SYS_NC00022$
SYS_NC00022$

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is this block cleanout ?

2002-10-19 Thread Rahul
when i do a count(*) an a 1.2GB table, just after an app finishes inserting
20 million records
i can see from iostat that, that disk is being read as well as written to
!!! 

the only reason i can think of WRITES being performed while being READ is 
the block cleanout is being performed by the count(*) !! 

i would appreciate if anyone could explain further !

regards

PS: 7.3.2 on AIX, the file is raw and async_io is true

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OT: IBM Ultrium tape drive for AIX

2002-10-10 Thread Rahul

list, we are planning to buy this external device for backup out AIX (2
databases + rootvg) 
the sales rep says that this device can backup 60GB in 1.5 hours... (our
current internal DDS
tape drive takes 4-5 hours for the backup.) .. does anyone else on this list
has experience with 
this device ? how fast reliable is this ? 

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OT: fast tape drive for AIX

2002-09-29 Thread Rahul

list, we are looking for a fast tape drive to backup all the volume groups
on our IBM H70.. 
around 100GB+, our current backup takes around 5-6 hours !!!

any ideas about a faster tape drive ? or an optical one ? 

regards
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OEM website - cannot login ;-(

2002-09-26 Thread Rahul

list,.. i have tried everything, but stiill i cannot login to em website
!!

i *CAN* use OEM console (the java app) and can login using SYSMAN (or SYS) 
but... then i do http://myserver:1810/ it prompts with 

realm: emterprise-manager
username: sysman

when i use the same password as when using the java OEM console.. it does
NOT work !!! 
i';m sooo frustrated... i hve tried changing the password to default
OEM_TEMP (using the method in metalink) 
,startup/shutdown the website.. but still does not work !! 

what am i doing wrong ?

regards




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RE: How to display a precedure from sql plus

2002-09-25 Thread Rahul

for procedure source you could query user_source 
to describe the procedure you could use SQL> desc procedure_name


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> We Create a  precedure from sql plus , and we want to desplay it ?
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RE: Oracle Memory

2002-09-23 Thread Rahul

girish... give the manuals a try... and read about the sga.. and the
parameters affecting the sga size...
i';m sure you will come up with the answer to ur own question. ;-) 

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RE: Why does my insert creates so many logs?

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RE: backup controlfile to trace

2002-09-17 Thread Rahul

;-(   typed too fast the poster asked for the "trace" .. not the binary
copy of the file 
me wrong.. me appologise...

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> SQL> alter database backup controlfile to '/oracle/ctrl.trc';
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RE: backup controlfile to trace

2002-09-17 Thread Rahul

why not just simplay *name* it !!! 

SQL> alter database backup controlfile to '/oracle/ctrl.trc';


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require info on OID / LDAP / LDIF

2002-09-03 Thread Rahul

list, 

i have been learning about OID for the last couple of weeks.. 
i have managed to install and run the ldap server on my w2k, i can run the 
OID manager GUI, and can also do a "ldap://wb-rahul:4034"; from my IE5

now i want to pupulate the directory with some new info, and test the
storage and search
of OID... there are a couple of things i do not understand... 

1) my understanding of oid is : it would store (and display) static data in
a tree like hierarchical structure
is this true ? 

2) suppose i want to store state, street name, zip in a tree like order..
how to do it ? 
the syntax is too complicated for me.!! all the docs on metalink writes
about "cn" and "dn" and "sn"

anyone out there using OID/LDAP in this fashion ? 

TIA 
-rahul



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RE: NFS mounts.

2002-08-20 Thread Rahul

i use FTP to tranfer files... much more faster...

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test scenario # 1, dropped online redo logs - UPDATE

2002-08-16 Thread Rahul

i am able to re-create the control file .. 
but on doing "recover database using backup controlfile"  the database is 
requesting a "change#" which was in the deleted online redo log !!! 
now what ???


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> list, i will be testing various recovery scenarios on a test instance..
> 
> my db is in archive log.. i hv a cold backup, i created a table, inserted
> some records and
> switched the logfile.. (i dnt hv a hot backup) , then i deleted both the
> online redo logs.
> 
> now i;m trying to re-create the controlfile (with resetlogs)  but it fails
> with..
> 
> CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE "ORACLE" RESETLOGS ARCHIVELOG
> *
> ORA-01503: CREATE CONTROLFILE failed
> ORA-01158: database  already mounted
> 
> before i issue the create controlfile command... i do a .
> 
> svrmgr30> startup nomount
> 
> i have the following questions..
> 
> 1) why i'm getting this error 
> 2) is re-creating the controlfile the *only* way out after the online logs
> are removed  ?
> 
> TIA
> rahul
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> 
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test scenario # 1, dropped online redo logs

2002-08-16 Thread Rahul

list, i will be testing various recovery scenarios on a test instance..

my db is in archive log.. i hv a cold backup, i created a table, inserted
some records and
switched the logfile.. (i dnt hv a hot backup) , then i deleted both the
online redo logs.

now i;m trying to re-create the controlfile (with resetlogs)  but it fails
with..

CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE "ORACLE" RESETLOGS ARCHIVELOG
*
ORA-01503: CREATE CONTROLFILE failed
ORA-01158: database  already mounted

before i issue the create controlfile command... i do a .

svrmgr30> startup nomount

i have the following questions..

1) why i'm getting this error 
2) is re-creating the controlfile the *only* way out after the online logs
are removed  ?

TIA
rahul



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d/w for a central bank

2002-07-31 Thread Rahul

list, i have been assigned the job of documenting the scope for a data
warehouse 
for a central bank !! the problem is.. that none of us (including the IT
devision of the bank) 
has any idea on what kind of "things" to include !!! 

i would appreciate inputs (off-list)  from anyone who has experience in
desiging a d/w for a central bank !!!
mainly we have to document the various possibilites of utilizing there
current OLTP data !!!

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RE: IO wait

2002-07-24 Thread Rahul

interestingly... the "b" column of *my* AIX also shows "2" continiously
!

kthr memory page  faultscpu
- ---   ---
 r  b   avm   fre  re  pi  po  fr   sr  cy  in   sy  cs us sy id wa
 0  2 200034  3088   0   0   0   00   0 555 2139 1592  1  3 95  1
 0  2 200279  2822   0   2   0   00   0 561 2048 313  2  2 95  2
 1  2 200654  2397   0   1   0   00   0 568 7397 8371 16 14 68  3
 1  2 200718  2077   0   3   0   00   0 675 3235 1394  8  5 82  5
 0  2 200034  2778   0   0   0   00   0 541 1428 271  0  1 98  0
 0  2 200034  2777   0   0   0   00   0 566 1540 311  1  2 97  1
 0  2 200034  2777   0   0   0   00   0 531 3556 251 10  6 84  0
 2  2 200034  2770   0   0   0   00   0 550 2942 2847  4  4 90  1

all systems are running fine without any IO (or other performance )
problems... !!

regards
Rahul

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> Some remarks: (not an answer!) The first line of vmstat/iostat output is
> an
> average since restart. The 'wa' is 32 and you have 4 processes blocked on
> average. Was there a problem (or a large load) since your last restart
> that
> was since solved? If not, this may just be the average load... On the
> other
> hand, you aren't currently paging in/out nor have an abnormal amount of
> context switches (cs) or system calls (sy), so why should two processes be
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> views so we really cannot dig into the details.
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> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Post, Ethan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > kthr memory page  faultscpu
> > - ---   ---
> >  r  b   avm   fre  re  pi  po  fr   sr  cy  in   sy  cs us sy id wa
> >  0  4 754461  3196   0  15  12 299  242   0 596  448 294 53 17 99 32
> >  0  2 754461  3195   0   0   0   00   0 503 1672 123  0  0 99  0
> >  0  2 754461  3195   0   0   0   00   0 509  787 125  0  0 99  0
> >  0  2 754461  3171   0   0   0   00   0 540  830 148  0  1 98  1
> >  0  2 754461  3167   0   0   0   00   0 503  783 120  0  0 99  0
> > 
> > John,
> > 
> > I think I recall some references in the past that would state 
> > that what you
> > see above is a problem (the 2 blocked processes in the "b" 
> > column).  However
> > we are not suffering any type of obvious problems that I am 
> > aware of.  Is
> > there a way to determine what these processes are?
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RE: how to force the DB to SKIP tx recovery ?

2002-07-23 Thread Rahul

Vikas, even if the parameters were set for the checkpoint to happen often,
all the
transactions *not* commited would still be rolled back !! for example, when
i shut down the PC
in the middle of doing an update of 1/2 a million rows !!! (how would these
parameters help?)


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> No, Instance recovery has to take place internally, SMON has to recover
> the
> committed transactions which were left hanging in the cache to datafiles
> so
> that the files become synchronized.
> 
> After that the db gets opened and roll backwards takes its own time. It
> depends SMON does this job in the background and any other Server process
> if
> needs that block can rollback the uncommitted transaction and proceed with
> the block.
> 
> If you wish to recover the instance recovery very fast then set the
> LOG_CHECKPOINT_INTERVAL,LOG_CHECKPOINT_TIMEOUT,FAST_START_IO_TARGET
> parameters to force the checkpoints quite often, this would open the
> instance under crash quite fast as it has to perform less work. But more
> the
> checkpoints initiated more the performance degradations as B'ground
> processes would be under tremendous work.
> 
> Hope it clarifies.
> Vikas Khanna  
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how to force the DB to SKIP tx recovery ?

2002-07-23 Thread Rahul

List, 
...was doing a looog update, was taking forever, i rebooted the PC,
as expected,  the *open* of the instance is taking a very long time.. and i
cannot wait...
is there a way to open the DB *without* letting oracle perform the thread
recovery ??
i just to open the DB data lose is acceptable..

TIA
-rahul


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RE: urgent: production database won't be opened

2002-06-19 Thread Rahul

my guess is that the instance is rolling back transactions which, were
interupted 
when u shutdown the db.


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> Hi, grurus:
>   This is a production database 8.1.7.2 on aix 4.3.3, there are 17
> instances running on the same box.
>   I shutdown immediate the database and it hangs.After wait for one
> hour, i do a shutdown abort. When i startup again, it failed to open the
> database , just hangs at this stage like:
> Sun Jun 16 09:36:40 2002
> SMON: enabling cache recovery
> SMON: enabling tx recovery
>   And the sql*plus window hangs at : database mounted, but never
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RE: Urgent: Retrieving Disk Space

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RE: Advice needed please

2002-05-30 Thread Rahul
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how to pick the lastes file using UTL_FILE package ?

2002-05-26 Thread Rahul

list,  the requirement is to use the UTL_FILE package on the server side to
open and process the files as they are created (each hour) in a server's
directory !!
could anyone suggest a logic to pick up the the lastest file created in that
dir. ? 

TIA

8.1.6 on win2k


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RE: altering next extent

2002-05-24 Thread Rahul

LMT ??? 

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> Hi,
> 
> I have a strange phenomena. Due to sizing problems with a specific table.
> I changed the next extent clause with 
>  ALTER TABLE contingenten.BOEKINGEN_ADDITIONS storage ( next 256K );
> 
> Mysteriously after running the batch, it was back on 8K. 
> 
> Ofcourse I select before (also closing sqlplus and starting it again and
> selecting)
> and after the batch the next extent by
> SQL> select next_extent from dba_tables where table_name =
> 'BOEKINGEN_ADDITIONS';
> 
> NEXT_EXTENT
> ---
>8192
> 
> After the batch it was back on 8K. I checked the scripts and there was no
> alter in the script.
> I turned on the audit on this table and did find only records with
> 'session
> rec' in action_name
> What can cause the previous alter to be changed back?
> 
> Tia,
> 
> Jeroen
> 
> Details: oracle 7.3.4 HP-UX 10.20
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RE: ORA_ENCRYPT_LOGIN

2002-05-22 Thread Rahul

could not say about the net8, but in oracle 7 clients, if the initial login
fails, the client will do the *next*
login attempt  using  *plain text* as password !!! but if this param is set
to TRUE, all the attempts are 
done using an encrypted password. 

set ORA_ENCRYPT_LOGIN = TRUE , in the correct ORACLE_HOME using regedit (if
on windows) 
turn the tracing level to 16, try to connect and see the trace file, u wud
see the userid in plain text but thepassword will be
encrypted...


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> If you want to be absolutely sure the password is being encrypted, you'll
> need to place a sniffer on the network.  Work with your network guys and
> whoever else needs to be involved.   In most company's  using an
> unauthorized sniffer will  result in dismissal. 
>  
> Let me reinterate what I stated.  SQL*NET encrypts passwords even if the
> ORA_ENCRYPT_LOGIN parameter is not set to TRUE  I wouldn't label it strong
> encryption.  If you really need that there is the Advanced Security
> Option.  
>  
>  I'm not 100% sure when the passwrod is sent in the clear.   It is never
> sent  plain text when the ORA_ENCRYPT_L0gin parameter is set to TRUE.  I
> believe it will be sent in the clear if the Oracle server side of SQL*NET
> is incapable of handling encrypted passwords and ORA_ENCRYPT_LOGIN  is
> set to false. ( I cannot , off the top of my head, remember if the
> parameter takes YES/NO or TRUE/FALSE).
>  
> The first thing I would do is ensure ORA_ENCRYPT_LOGIN  is true for all
> clients.
>  
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> 
>   That's exactly what I want to stop, passwords being sent in the
> clear.  However, I'm not able to verify it's working so far. I've turned
> on tracing, as recommended in another reply on this topic, did a login
> before enabling then after enabling this parameter and the differences are
> very minor and I'm seeing nothing that specifically points
>   to this parameter being used other than output saying the parameter
> is detected.  How are you all having developers connect to the production
> box via SQL*Plus client on developer workstations, so that the password is
> not sent in the clear?
>
>   -Original Message-
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> 
>   Even without this parameter being set the password is encrypted.
> What the parameter does is stop the password from being sent in the clear
> if logging in with the encrypted password fails.   I believe the
> encryption is a 54-bit  variant of DES.  It is very rare that  someone
> improves DES by fiddling with it.  It also always encrypts to the same
> value and provides no protection against replay attacks.
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> 
>   Anyone using this and if so, do you know of a way to verify
> that the password is actually being encrypted?
>
>   Thanks.
> 
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top 5 segments from each tablespace...

2002-05-13 Thread Rahul

i hv written a pl/sql to print out the 5 largest segments  (max number of
extents) 
from each of the tbs present in a DB... can this is done using sql too ?
just curious... 

regards



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RE: export to tape!!

2002-04-30 Thread Rahul

$ cp dumpfile /dev/rmt0

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> 
> Hi Friends,
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> I need to export some 40 tables on to tape, my system is AIX415 with 
> oracle7.3, some body could give steps.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Raghu.
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this is how i created mount points - AIX

2002-04-09 Thread Rahul

list, 
i have 3 hdisks, i created ONE volume group for each hdisk, the VG size was
just a little
less than that of the disk... 

hdisk1  vg1
hdisk2  vg2
hdisk3  vg3

then i creatd mount points /hd1, /hd2/, and /hd3 
and created 3 file systems on 3 volume groups and mounted them on the above
mentioned
directories.. 

now i will create further sub-directories under these mount points... for
instance data/indexes etc...

this setup gives me easy one-to-one mapping, so i;'m sure if i put my files
under /hd1, the data
is stored to hdisk1 physically !!

am i right ?? or is there a more better (complex?)  way to do this.. ?

Regards

Rahul



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RE: sysdba

2002-04-04 Thread Rahul

and i'm just curious what does "paPIpapupapePO" means ?

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> the acoount that i used was oracle account.
> primary group is oinstall and secondary is dba.
> 
> bill thater wrote:
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> > > i am using Solaris 8.
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> > > thank you in advance.
> >
> > are you starting sqlplus from an account in the DBA group?
> >
> > is the DBA group the primary group?
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RE: Stand By Database !!

2002-04-02 Thread Rahul

you need to create the datafile in ur standby and then apply the logs...

see the alter database create datafile AS command... 

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> 
> Suhen ,
> 
> After adding a datafile in Primary database .In the day end I am planning
> to
> apply the archive logs into stand by database.
> Did I require to refresh the controlfile .
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> My standby database is in manual mode.
> 
> I came to know that if you will apply the archive logs then  you will hit
> the errors below.
> ORA-283, ORA-1670, ORA-1157, ORA-1110 
> 
> STANDBY DATABASE> svrmgrl
> STANDBY DATABASE> connect internal
> STANDBY DATABASE> recover standby database Press Enter Key 
> 
> then i will hit those errors
> ORA-283, ORA-1670, ORA-1157, ORA-1110
> 
> My standby database is in manual mode.Everyday I transfer the archive logs
> manually and recove the dataase manually.
> 
> 
> So please tell me what will be the detail procedure of adding a datafile
> in
> stand by databse.
> 
> I know about this command.
> 
> Svrmgrl> connect internal 
> svrmgrl> simple i will put the below command.
> 
>  ALTER DATABASE CREATE DATAFILE '/db/orcale/docimage.dbf' 
>  AS '/db/orcale/docimage.dbf';
> 
> svrmgrl> then recover standby database 
> 
> HIt the Enter Key the appply the logs.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please tell me the detail procedure.
> 
> Regards,
> Saroj.
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alter table enable table lock hangs..

2002-03-08 Thread Rahul

list, 
i was playing around with the disable table lock command and 
disabled the locks on a temp table.. but i'm not able to ENABLE
the table lock again !!! the command just hangs... queried from 
v$session_wait.. .the command is waiting for "library cache handle"
eternally..!!!

is there any way i can drop this table ??? (it would require enabling the
table locks)

seems like a bug to me... i'm on rs/6000 with 8.1.5.0.0

Regards

Rahul


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Re: EXTENTS?

2002-03-04 Thread Rahul Dandekar

Isn't the minimum extent size something like 5 times the DB_BLOCK_SIZE?

If that's true then maximum .2 extents in DB block.

Or you are looking for this info?

   db_block_size  Max Extents 
   -- --- 
2K121 
4K249 
8K505 
   16K   1017 
   32K   2041


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Re: replication question

2002-03-04 Thread Rahul Dandekar



Well, you could open standby DB only for 
read only access (8i) whereas in replication, both or
all (more than 2) databases could be up 
and open to users all the times.
 
Each DML causes substantial overhead as 
each transaction needs to be propogated and applied
at all the master sites (whereas 
in Oracle Parallel Server, there is centralized database accessed 

by multiple instances, there is no need 
for this).
 
So, if you donot need two databases at two 
geographically separate locations, open for users,
then Standby DB or OPS might be 
better option. Again, in OPS, if the hardware cluster fails then
you are in trouble...
 
About speed, if you could tune up sending 
of logs and application of it, then Standby database
would consume substantially lesser 
resources than replication, hence higher throughput...
The primary database in Standby DB just 
needs to send the archivelogs (simple file transfer)
and then log application happens on the 
secondary server...
Whereas, in replication, the database 
would have to propogate and apply each and every
transaction individually
 
+Rahul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  James 
  Ambursley 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:24 
PM
  Subject: RE: replication question
  
  Is 
  replication faster than a standby database. As I understand it, the 
  standby database will be receive arch logs at preset intervals.  Does 
  replication have the same functionality and about how much data is sent to the 
  replicated site.
   
   
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin LangeSent: 
Monday, March 04, 2002 10:44 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: replication question
The way I see it .  the question comes down to whether or 
not you need two way replication or just one way.   If both 
databases can update those tables and you need them synced between the 
databases then Advanced Replication would be the route.   If all 
you need are data changes from 1 database to be replicated to another 
database then simple replication is all you need.

  -Original Message-From: Rahul Dandekar 
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  6:43 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
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  Depends on your need.
  You can have read only snapshots, updatable 
  snapshots
  or multimaster...
  Again if you think of multimaster... then you 
  would need to make decision
  based on your application requirements about 
  sync or async
   
  I donot have any expereince of snapshot 
  replication.
  But, if you are planning multimaster 
  replication, then better
  spend a couple of months studying it and 
  testing on test boxes...
   
  Make 100% sure that your 
  application really needs the replication
  and there is no other simpler 
  option...
   
  Just 2 cents...
   
  +Rahul
  
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From: 
Bunyamin K. Karadeniz 
To: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-L 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:33 
AM
Subject: replication question

Dear Gurus,
The clients will enter records to a 
database all day and I will update the other database . 
I need to replicate 10 tables in a database 
to other database at a specific time. 
 
Do I need Advanced replication  or 
basic replication . ?
How can I understand that replication is 
supported in my both databases. ?
 
Bunyamin 
 
 
 


Re: replication question

2002-03-04 Thread Rahul Dandekar



Why not just Updateable Snapshots?
 
Updateable Snapshots allow users to query 
and update a local replicated data set 
even when disconnected from the master 
site.

More relevant is the fact that... Updateable Snapshots require fewer 
resources than multimaster replication, while still supporting data 
updates.

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:43 
  AM
  Subject: RE: replication question
  
  The 
  way I see it .  the question comes down to whether or not you need 
  two way replication or just one way.   If both databases can update 
  those tables and you need them synced between the databases then Advanced 
  Replication would be the route.   If all you need are data changes 
  from 1 database to be replicated to another database then simple replication 
  is all you need.
  
-Original Message-From: Rahul Dandekar 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 6:43 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
replication question
Depends on your need.
You can have read only snapshots, updatable 
snapshots
or multimaster...
Again if you think of multimaster... then you 
would need to make decision
based on your application requirements about 
sync or async
 
I donot have any expereince of snapshot 
replication.
But, if you are planning multimaster 
replication, then better
spend a couple of months studying it and 
testing on test boxes...
 
Make 100% sure that your 
application really needs the replication
and there is no other simpler 
option...
 
Just 2 cents...
 
+Rahul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bunyamin K. Karadeniz 
  To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:33 
  AM
  Subject: replication question
  
  Dear Gurus,
  The clients will enter records to a database 
  all day and I will update the other database . 
  I need to replicate 10 tables in a database 
  to other database at a specific time. 
   
  Do I need Advanced replication  or basic 
  replication . ?
  How can I understand that replication is 
  supported in my both databases. ?
   
  Bunyamin 
   
   
   


Multimaster Replication Doubt...

2002-03-04 Thread Rahul Dandekar

1.
It is my understanding that Oracle 7.x has continuous purge
of the propogated deftrans. There is no option of scheduling
periodic purge at specific time. Am I correct?

2.
How to schedule continuous purge of propogated deftrans in
Oracle 8i from command line?

prompt  SCHEDULE PURGE AT MASTER SITE 
BEGIN
DBMS_DEFER_SYS.SCHEDULE_PURGE (
NEXT_DATE => SYSDATE,
INTERVAL => 'SYSDATE + 1/24',
DELAY_SECONDS => 0,
ROLLBACK_SEGMENT => '');
END;
/

Manual says set DELAY_SECONDS to 500,000 and set INTERVAL to a value less
than
DELAY_SECONDS. I could not understand exactly how this works...

+Rahul

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Re: Replication - Oracle 9i - problem

2002-03-04 Thread Rahul Dandekar

I think what Vladimir is referring is the DBCA screen
(atleast in 8i) which asks if Replication option is
to be used or not. And if checked, it calls catrep.sql
after "dbcreate - catalog - catproc"

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> Replication is not part of database configuration.
> After you build the database and create objects inside
> you use the replication manager to create the replication
> on the objects you want to replicate.
>
> Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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> >
> > During install of Oracle9i EE software, I have checked "replication"
> > option.
> >
> > Afterwards, when I run "Database Configuration Assistant" there is no
> > check
> > box related to replication???
> >
> > When I run "Oracle Installer" after the install, it confirms that
> > replication option is present.
> >
> > Platform is 9i on Win2000.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
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Re: replication question

2002-03-04 Thread Rahul Dandekar



Depends on your need.
You can have read only snapshots, updatable 
snapshots
or multimaster...
Again if you think of multimaster... then you would 
need to make decision
based on your application requirements about sync 
or async
 
I donot have any expereince of snapshot 
replication.
But, if you are planning multimaster replication, 
then better
spend a couple of months studying it and testing on 
test boxes...
 
Make 100% sure that your application really 
needs the replication
and there is no other simpler 
option...
 
Just 2 cents...
 
+Rahul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bunyamin K. Karadeniz 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:33 
AM
  Subject: replication question
  
  Dear Gurus,
  The clients will enter records to a database all 
  day and I will update the other database . 
  I need to replicate 10 tables in a database to 
  other database at a specific time. 
   
  Do I need Advanced replication  or basic 
  replication . ?
  How can I understand that replication is 
  supported in my both databases. ?
   
  Bunyamin 
   
   
   


Re: Replication - Oracle 9i - problem

2002-03-04 Thread Rahul Dandekar

I am not sure about this... just a guess
They may have included catrep.sql as a part of something
mandatory like catproc or catalog
So, one does not need to run that separatly...

Did you read the documentation? Do they say that if DB has to
be created manually then run catrep.sql separatly?

+R
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> During install of Oracle9i EE software, I have checked "replication"
option.
>
> Afterwards, when I run "Database Configuration Assistant" there is no
check
> box related to replication???
>
> When I run "Oracle Installer" after the install, it confirms that
> replication option is present.
>
> Platform is 9i on Win2000.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
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Re: [Fwd: UNIX Performance Issues]

2002-02-19 Thread Rahul Dandekar
Title: Message



James,
 
Getting interesting, isn't it? I have added my 
response...
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  James Morle 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:58 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Fwd: UNIX Performance 
  Issues]
  
  Rahul,
   
  Here's what I would do. 
  1) I would use "mpstat" for the processor statistics. 
  This breaks the usage up by processor in SMP configurations. This can be 
  useful to see the relative loading of each CPU, in particular the breakdown of 
  kernel and user time.
  2) Memory: Concentrate on Page Outs and Free Memory more 
  than anything else. That will give you plenty of clues about memory 
  starvation, and the relevence of your VM tuning.
  3) I/O: User "sar -d". It's a bit annoying on a system 
  with a lot of disks, because it returns a row for every device, even if no I/O 
  occurred in the sample period. However, it makes it easier to parse. ;-) 
  Notably, keep an eye on the Service Times (avserv?), Wait times (avwait), and 
  the queue depth. The utilisation is a function of these (queuing theory), but 
  you can store that too as a shortcut. You can give sar any sample period, so 
  your 5 minute averages are no problem.
How can I get the current I/O load on the system? I don't know 
exactly what metric I am looking for.
But I want to establish some baseline metric for each machine and 
then hunt for spikes from the
gathered data. The metric can be "I/O load on system bus in 
Mb/sec" (like the netstat info packets
input and output). I don't want individual disk statistics. I just 
want a overall number, which I
can snapshot.

  4) Network: "netstat 5" will report a row for every 5 
  seconds (for example), showing how many packets went in and out of each 
  interface. Your question below is easily answered - you have two columns in 
  your output; the first is for the named interface (hme0), the 100baseT network 
  card. The second is a total of all cards - looks like you only have one. This 
  total can also include the loopback interface (lo0), so look out for 
  that.

If I have only one card then why the total and hme0 data are 
different (by about 10%)?

  Good luck, you're doing the right thing. I've been 
  working on some software to do just this for a couple of years. I'd love to 
  hear how it goes!
+Rahul

  Regards
   
  James
  --James MorleScale Abilities, Ltdhttp://www.scaleabilities.co.ukAuthor 
  of "Scaling Oracle8i - Building Highly Scalable OLTP System 
  Architectures" 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rahul 
DandekarSent: 19 February 2002 12:59To: Multiple 
recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: [Fwd: UNIX Performance 
    Issues]
James,
 
Interleaved, please find my 
reply
 
+Rahul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  James Morle 
  To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:03 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Fwd: UNIX Performance 
  Issues]
  
  Rahul,
   
  Did you get a response on this? I'm not sure I fully 
  understand the actual question - are you looking for specific commands you 
  need to run to get the information, 
[Rahul] Yes. I would like to know which flags of the 
commonly used commands give good information.
For general System stats, I use "sar -u" (same as 
default), for Memory / Virtual Memory I use "vmstat"
and look for "r   b   w   
swap   free   pi   po   us  
 sy   id" columns.
I am looking for general monitoring. And once we have 
this general information giving a overall picture,
we could know if there is a problem and we could 
investigate further.
I am specifically looking for IO and Network 
statistics.
Is there any command which would give me approx IO of 
the system, say in last 5 minutes or
current?
How to get network statistics? I was littlebit confused 
with netstat. There are two main categories
in my output : hme0 and Total. What does that 
mean?
    input   
hme0  
output   
input  (Total)    outputpackets errs  packets 
errs  colls  packets errs  packets errs  
colls5757291 0 2447690 0 
0  6071152 0 2761551 
0 045  
0 1   
0 0  
45  0 
1   0 
024  0 
2   0 
0  24  
0 2   
0 0
 
What I plan to do is to take snapshot of all these statistics 
at a certain frequency and put it
in database. Later on I could generate reports based on 
this.
Currently, I have a lot of "Camera"s like this taking 
snapshots of my system.
Oth

Re: Copy files to hard drive from unix server

2002-02-19 Thread Rahul Dandekar

I do it from dos / command prompt in windows as follows

Create files "cmds" and "c.bat" and run c.bat

+--+
| cmds |
+--+
oracle
password
lcd c:\temp
get /test/files
bye

+---+
| c.bat |
+---+
ftp -s:cmds tmatesttmrm



+Rahul

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> Hallo,
>
> anyone who can give me an easy example on a unix shell  script that copies
files from a unix directory /test/files to the hard drive directory c:\temp
> Thanks in advance. Would appreciate very much.
>
> Roland S
>
>
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Re: [Fwd: UNIX Performance Issues]

2002-02-19 Thread Rahul Dandekar
Title: Message



James,
 
Interleaved, please find my reply
 
+Rahul

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  From: 
  James Morle 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:03 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Fwd: UNIX Performance 
  Issues]
  
  Rahul,
   
  Did you get a response on this? I'm not sure I fully 
  understand the actual question - are you looking for specific commands you 
  need to run to get the information, 
[Rahul] Yes. I would like to know which flags of the 
commonly used commands give good information.
For general System stats, I use "sar -u" (same as default), 
for Memory / Virtual Memory I use "vmstat"
and look for "r   b   w   
swap   free   pi   po   us  
 sy   id" columns.
I am looking for general monitoring. And once we have this 
general information giving a overall picture,
we could know if there is a problem and we could 
investigate further.
I am specifically looking for IO and Network 
statistics.
Is there any command which would give me approx IO of the 
system, say in last 5 minutes or
current?
How to get network statistics? I was littlebit confused 
with netstat. There are two main categories
in my output : hme0 and Total. What does that 
mean?
    input   hme0  
output   input  
(Total)    outputpackets errs  packets errs  
colls  packets errs  packets errs  colls5757291 
0 2447690 0 
0  6071152 0 2761551 
0 045  
0 1   
0 0  
45  0 
1   0 
024  0 
2   0 
0  24  
0 2   
0 0
 
What I plan to do is to take snapshot of all these statistics at 
a certain frequency and put it
in database. Later on I could generate reports based on 
this.
Currently, I have a lot of "Camera"s like this taking 
snapshots of my system.
Others involve Oracle stuff like DB Size Growth, Performance 
Ratios, UNIX File System
usage, Replication Statistics, Growth of DB objects, a lot of monitors 
for application
info (e.g. total # of clients, # of invoices generated per 
day).
I generate trends based on this archival data for capacity planning and 
proactively
anticipating chronic problems.

  or advice on how to interpret it? Don't forget that you 
  will really need to correlate many of these 
  statistics to the Oracle pathology at the same time. 
  
You said it! I want co-relation of Application Load, 
UNIX System Load and Database 
Statistics.
And not just when the problem arises. So, 
that's what I am trying to develop.
 

  This then causes a problem because your sample points 
  will at the very least experience clock drift and become harder to compare 
  over time. There are ways to solve it, though. 
  Anyway, if you could elaborate a little, I can try to 
  assist!
  Regards
   
  James
  --James MorleScale Abilities, Ltdhttp://www.scaleabilities.co.ukAuthor 
  of "Scaling Oracle8i - Building Highly Scalable OLTP System 
  Architectures" 
  

-Original Message-From: Mogens 
Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 February 2002 
22:11To: James MorleSubject: [Fwd: UNIX Performance 
Issues]Hi James,I've got no idea whether this 
is of interest or not to you, but you probably know a bit about this 
topic.Mogens Original Message  

  
  
Subject: 
UNIX Performance Issues
  
Date: 
    Thu, 14 Feb 2002 07:43:26 -0800
  
From: 
"Rahul Dandekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  
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To: 
Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>DBAs,

This might be littlebit (or completely!) UNIX related... But I am told
to do the performance analysis of some 10-15 machines and generate
some statistical data to find out bottlenecks and identify areas of
tuning...

Operating System : Solaris 2.6

I have been using sar, iostat, top...
I actually plan to script these things and run these scripts at certain
intervals and put the data in database (Oracle 8i) and then do the
crunching...
Inputs are appreciated...

1. I/O
   What is current I/O status. Is there a lot of I/O going on?

2. Paging
   Is there lot of swapping / paging happening?
   Which processes are getting swapped in/out continuously?
   Are the I/O waits due to swapping / paging or regular stuff
   like DB waiting to read from DB files?

3. CPU
   What is the CPU utulization? Which processes are using lot of CPU?

4. Memory
   What is the current picture of Real and Virtual Memory?
   What processes are using how much memory? Which processes
   are i
n real memory and which are in virtual memory?
   Which processes are swapped in and out from/to real/virtual memory
   and how many times?

5. Network
   What is the percentage utilization of network

Re: Oracle Advanced Replication

2002-02-18 Thread Rahul Dandekar

Adar,

How do you take care of backups?
I mean, what kind of backups do you take? How are you addressing the
scenario of incomplete recovery?
Following are some of my doubts.

1.  What kind of Backup should be taken? Online or Offline? Does
replication would generate substantially higher redo?

Ø  Lets analyze the possibility of Online Backups :

q   Redo Generation
Apparently, a database in replicated environment would generate
significantly more redo if the same database was not in replicated
environment. Is there sufficient bandwidth (diskspace, tapes) for the
additional redo?

q   Need for Complete Recovery
If we need to recover one of the databases then it should be complete
recovery. Incomplete recovery will not be permissible since the databases
are in replicated environment. (Lets not consider 'All' the databases
restored from their backups till a certain SCN.)

q   Quick Recovery
Also, the recovery must be done quickly. This is because as one of the
databases in replicated environment is down, the DEFTRAN queues in other
master sites would start getting larger and larger and it might reach to a
stage where we would also need to do the 'Offline Instantiation' for
replicated objects.

q   When complete ercovery is not possible….
In case complete recovery is not possible then we need to recover the
databases and then perform 'Offline Instantiation' for replicated objects.

Ø  What if we take Offline Backups :

q   For a simple recovery, entire database needs to be restored from the
cold backup.

q   'Offline Instantiation' needs to be performed each time media
recovery is performed. This is because media recovery would always bring the
database till the time of cold backup and other master sites would be ahead
in time.

q   In case datafiles affecting 'only' those tablespaces which have
objects which are replicated are needing recovery then recovery can be done
by using transportable tablespaces feature.

   i.  First, we would
need to drop those tablespaces from the database.

 ii.  We can then drop
replication for this master group.

iii.  Transport and
Plug-in the tablespace's datafile from other master site.

   iv.  Rebuild replication.

TIA,

+Rahul


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> Hello Peter
>
> We implemented Advance Replication as part of dealing room.
> We defined master to master real-time replication.
> Synchronous, 2 phase commit, from the primary to the backup DB as each
deal
> is a
> lot of money and standby database will not reflect updates since the last
> log file was archived.
> Since we need master to master we defined the replication from the backup
DB
> to the primary as asynchronous even though no body is using the backup DB.
>
> I think that the cases are similar.
>
> Points to take care off:
>
> 1) Prepare a script to drop the replication on each machine if the other
> machine fails.
> Lets say that you got a CPU fault on the primary and you switch to the
> backup.
> In this case you might get off with the asynchronous replication as
> updates will
> accumulate in the backup machine until the CPU is replaced. When the
> primary
> will come up the replication will update the primary DB with all the
> changes.
> Now, if the disk drive fails on the primary you will probably have to
> rebuild the
> DB from scratch (or from export from the backup). In this case there
is
> no point
> to accumulate updates in the backup machine.
>Also, if the backup machine fails you do not want the updates to the
> primary to
> fail. In this case you drop replication and go on working.
>
> 2) Ensure that the log files, rollback segments, datafiles (size) and all
> init ora are the
> same on both machines. You do not want to swap to the backup only to
> find that
> the parameters are ok for one connection (replication) but fails when
> working as
> a primary DB.
>
> 3) Hey, what happens if the air condition stopped working and ALL the
> machines heats
> up and stopped working. Both machine will fail.
>Worse if that room gets on fire you are out of luck.
>Move the backup machine at least a couple of rooms away.
>
> 4) Use stand by database in another building so in case of a serious
problem
> (11 seqptember)
> you will not lose all your data, only the data since the last archive.
>
> 5) Test, Test, Test again all failure scenarios, and test again each
mont

RE: Library Cache wait -- Who is holding this latch

2002-02-17 Thread Rahul

you are getting the SID from the v$session_wait view.. just query the
v$session and find our the session details 
of this SID !   

> --
> From: Gupta, Brijesh[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 10:08 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  Library Cache wait -- Who is holding this latch
> 
> Hi All
> I have a session which is waiting for Library Cache latch for 6 hours.
> How can I find who is holding this latch.
> This session is executing a pl/sql script ( Not package ). Latch#  60 is
> library cache latch.
>  
>  
> Here is from v$session_wait
>  
>   1  select * from v$session_wait
>   2* where sid=1005
> PROD>/
> Press Enter to Continue 
>  
> SIDSEQ# EVENT  P1TEXT
> 
> --- --- --
> -
> P1RAWP2TEXT
> P2 P2RAW
> 
> 
> --- --
>  
> Wait  Sec in
> P3TEXT
> P3 P3RAW  time   Wait  STATE
> 
> ---  --
>10055987 latch free address
> @9925
> 0701C0A5E228 number
> 60 003C
> tries
> 0 00   -1  32,962 WAITED SHORT 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Thanks
>  
>  
> ~~~~
> Brijesh Gupta
> Oracle Production DBA
> 
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script to populate tables, i just wrote one

2002-02-17 Thread Rahul

List, 
i just finished writing a script to generate random data to populate 
tables for load testing... the script takes into account the check
constraint
of a column and generate the correct/valid values. Also, a DEFAULT value of 
a column is also considered and generated accordingly. values for ALL the
columns
are generated (to keep it simple). I'm sure there are many scripts like this
on available on the
web.. but hey!!! i needed to jog the pl/sql side of my brain ;-)) 

mail me privately to request the script ...

regards

PS: please do not fill the list with "me too" messages




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my boss wants a report !!!

2002-02-14 Thread Rahul

list, 
the management has asked me to report the activities i do to make sure
that all the DB's are in perfect health.!! Without being technical the
report
should somehow show the status of the DB's . 

I have decided to devide the report into the following sections

- performance
how to show the performance of the DB ??? without using any stats .

- storage
occupied / available

- security
unauthorized access 

- backup and recovery

status of the hot standby database. 


could anyone point out some more information to include showing the
"performance" of the DB ?

Regards

Rahul


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