Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution

2003-11-06 Thread Rick_Cale




Hi DBAs,

Oracle 8i, ArchiveLog, No RMAN
Testing Point-In-Time Recovery

I am confused on what time to substitute in the RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL TIME
'timestamp';

For example 2 days ago 11/04/2003 approximately 17:00 I drop a table.
Today I decide I want that table back. I want to do an incomplete recovery
to get the table back.
How do I know what timestamp to use?  I have an idea the I dropped the
table but not exact.


1. SHUTDOWN Normal
2. BACKUP current database
3. Restore datafile that has the table in it.
4. connect internal
5. startup mount
6. recover database until time 'timestamp??';
7. Alter database open resetlogs;
8. BACKUP current database

Step 5 is my confusion.

Also I assume all data is now lost  since last archive restored to the
present.
The only way I know to get that data back is to
1. Export the table that was dropped.
2. Restore database from step2
3. Import table from step1

Is there better ways.

Thanks
Rick


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RE: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution

2003-11-06 Thread Rick_Cale




How was the timestamp derived prior to logminer as Point-In-Time recovery
has been around a long time?

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Have you looked into using logminer?  Even if it can't restore your
table, it can give you the exact time that it was dropped.

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Hi DBAs,

Oracle 8i, ArchiveLog, No RMAN
Testing Point-In-Time Recovery

I am confused on what time to substitute in the RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL
TIME
'timestamp';

For example 2 days ago 11/04/2003 approximately 17:00 I drop a table.
Today I decide I want that table back. I want to do an incomplete
recovery
to get the table back.
How do I know what timestamp to use?  I have an idea the I dropped the
table but not exact.


1. SHUTDOWN Normal
2. BACKUP current database
3. Restore datafile that has the table in it.
4. connect internal
5. startup mount
6. recover database until time 'timestamp??';
7. Alter database open resetlogs;
8. BACKUP current database

Step 5 is my confusion.

Also I assume all data is now lost  since last archive restored to the
present.
The only way I know to get that data back is to
1. Export the table that was dropped.
2. Restore database from step2
3. Import table from step1

Is there better ways.

Thanks
Rick


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Who is using temp tablespace?

2003-11-04 Thread Rick_Cale




Hi All,

How can I determine who is using temp tablespace?  I have a 1 gb tablespace
and it is almost full. I want to know who and what sql is using most
of it.

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Re: Datatype conversions

2003-11-03 Thread Rick_Cale




INSERT INTO new_table(price)
SELECT REPLACE(price, ',' ,'.')
FROM old_table;

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Can you re-post this question several more times? We didn't get it yet.
Thanks in advance for your understanding.

On 11/03/2003 07:29:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hallo,

 Maybe this sounds simple for all of you, but I have a table with the
field
 PRICE and that is with datatype varchar2 I want the data in that field to
be
 inserted in another table with  field PRICE, but that field has the
datatype
 NUMBER. How can I
 easiest do this sql statement?

 In the varchar2(30) field PRICE , table1 it looks like this

 PRICE

 12,50
 37,50


 The datype in table 2 is for that field NUMBER(7,2)


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Enterprise Manager Console create report utility stops after 3%

2003-10-30 Thread Rick_Cale




Hi DBAs,

Oracle 9.2.0.1
Win 2000

In Enterprise Console there is an option to produce a report on either 1
Database Configuration Report or 2. Database Status Report.  When
I choose either on I always get 3% complete and amount of time thusfar just
keeps going. I never get a report and never goes higter than 3% complete.
Any ideas why report will not complete.

Thanks
Rick

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How to trace 3rd party app

2003-10-23 Thread Rick_Cale




Hi DBAs,

How can I trace a 3rd party app that produces a ora-3113 error?
I am looking into dbms_support package but I am not sure what trace event
and level it does.

Thanks
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RE: How to trace 3rd party app

2003-10-23 Thread Rick_Cale




Dennis,

The dot net app is on a remote server.  I will search MetaLink.

Thanks
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Rick - What is the configuration? Is the app on the same server or remote
across SQL*Net? Metalink has a pretty good paper on the basics of debugging
an ORA-3113.

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How can I trace a 3rd party app that produces a ora-3113 error?
I am looking into dbms_support package but I am not sure what trace event
and level it does.

Thanks
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RE: Using ' in Update statement

2003-10-10 Thread Rick_Cale




Ahhh!!! there is no elite and the question was trivial.  The great and
powerful has spoken, perhaps all questions should be filtered
your way for classification.  I can assure nothing on this forum is worthy
of becoming Testy, merely trying to provide a solution for
someone who needed help and of course one must stand their ground when
necessary.



   

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There is no elite here, but this was a trivial question which
I answered by listing manuals in which the answer could be found.
I was asked for clarification of my reply, so I provided the
clarification. No need to get testy about it.

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 Hamid started his question
 How can I user comma  '  in my update statement?

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purpose.
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 I didn't mean quote, I meant RTFM.
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  I assume you mean quote
 
  update tablea set fielda =' james'ste Camp 'first,'sec'  '
 
  update tablea set fielda =' james''ste Camp ''first,''sec''  ';
 
  Just use 2 single quotes
 
 
 

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  It's in the documentation. Start with the concepts manual, then
SQL*Plus
  manual and SQL reference. I'm sure that you'll run across the answer
  because that's where I have found the answer to the very same question.
 
  On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 13:59, Hamid Alavi wrote:
   List,
  
   How can I user comma  '  in my update statement?
  
   update tablea set fielda =' james'ste Camp 'first,'sec'  '
  
  
   Thanks,
  
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Re: Using ' in Update statement

2003-10-09 Thread Rick_Cale




I assume you mean quote

update tablea set fielda =' james'ste Camp 'first,'sec'  '

update tablea set fielda =' james''ste Camp ''first,''sec''  ';

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It's in the documentation. Start with the concepts manual, then SQL*Plus
manual and SQL reference. I'm sure that you'll run across the answer
because that's where I have found the answer to the very same question.

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 List,

 How can I user comma  '  in my update statement?

 update tablea set fielda =' james'ste Camp 'first,'sec'  '


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Re: Using ' in Update statement

2003-10-09 Thread Rick_Cale




Hamid started his question
How can I user comma  '  in my update statement?

I am merely correcting his mistake and then providing a solution.
Wow, what a concept on a Oracle Listserv site design for that very purpose.
Just curious, Would you have answered in the same way if it had been asked
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I didn't mean quote, I meant RTFM.
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 I assume you mean quote

 update tablea set fielda =' james'ste Camp 'first,'sec'  '

 update tablea set fielda =' james''ste Camp ''first,''sec''  ';

 Just use 2 single quotes




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 It's in the documentation. Start with the concepts manual, then SQL*Plus
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  How can I user comma  '  in my update statement?
 
  update tablea set fielda =' james'ste Camp 'first,'sec'  '
 
 
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Any known problems with installing new MS patch on Oracle server

2003-09-12 Thread Rick_Cale




Hi All,

Has anyone heard of any known gotchas with installing the latest MS patch
on Oracle server?

Thanks
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Oracle 9iAS form displays gray box

2003-09-10 Thread Rick_Cale

 Hi 







  NT 2000   
  Oracle 9.0.2.0.1  
  Oracle 9ias 9.0.2.0.1 

  Installed infrastructure and tested ok
  Installed middle tier and tested ok   

  When I was testing the forms services from demo tab to test running the   
  demo form 
  it shows form services installed successfully. When I hit ok it is trying 
  to load another   
  form but all I get is a gray box. 

  I also tried this on my local machine where I have 9i dev installed to
  test with another form and I get a gray box.  
  Jinitiator and OC4J listener are running on local to test 9i development  
  install   
  Any one have any suggestions. 



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OT: Oracle 9iOAS install help needed

2003-09-09 Thread Rick_Cale




Hi All,

I am trying to install Oracle 9iAS on Win 2000

I installed Infra structure successfully. While trying to install next
component OAS with BI/Forms I get a message
Existing Oracle9iOAS Single Sign-On.  Enter hostname and port number of
existing Single Sign-On. Heck I do not know
if it installed. I assume it is since infrastructure is installed.
Obviously I am a first timer in OAS.  I have about 300 pages of
documentation but I can find nothing to troubleshoot.  Does anyone have any
experience they can share or URL's.

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RE: Oracle 9iOAS install help needed

2003-09-09 Thread Rick_Cale




Thanks for the reply. I already verified the correct port but no go.

Thanks
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There is a ports.ini file somewhere in the infra and middle Oracle homes,
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Hi All,

I am trying to install Oracle 9iAS on Win 2000

I installed Infra structure successfully. While trying to install next
component OAS with BI/Forms I get a message
Existing Oracle9iOAS Single Sign-On.  Enter hostname and port number of
existing Single Sign-On. Heck I do not know
if it installed. I assume it is since infrastructure is installed.
Obviously I am a first timer in OAS.  I have about 300 pages of
documentation but I can find nothing to troubleshoot.  Does anyone have any
experience they can share or URL's.

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Re: C program won't run in 9.0.2.3

2003-08-29 Thread Rick_Cale




Ruth,

Just to be clear you are pre-compiling(not compiling) under 9.0.2.3 and
compiling with same C compiler then linking with new 9.0.2.3 libraties. OS
is the same.
Obviously the contents of sqlca.sqlcode memory location is getting stomped
on as 1093480496 is garbage.  I would not think the sqlca data structure
would change.  I am assuming the code below is immediately following your
EXEC SQL statement. Are you doing any select...into where you may be
getting a buffer overflow.  I know this is code that is probably unchanged
and you just want to precompile/compile/link in new Oracle environment,
these
are very hard to find.

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Good morning,

We are trying to run a C program that runs on 8.0.6.3 after compiling it
under 9.0.2.3 and we cannot get it to run.  Does anyone know of any changes
to the C interface with Oracle 9i that we should be aware of?  The it
errors
out everytime when it tries to write an error message with the following
lines:
  if ( sqlca.sqlcode != SQL_NO_ERROR )
{
if (sqlca.sqlcode == SQL_NOT_FOUND )
return(-1) ;
else
{
LogError_v(SQL ERROR (%d) : [%s]\n ,
sqlca.sqlcode, sqlca.sqlerrm.sqlerrmc) ;
return(-1) ;

and the SQL Error is:

SQL ERROR (1093480496) : [0: no data

but there is data.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

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OT: DataType mapping between Oracle and SQL Server

2003-08-21 Thread Rick_Cale




Can someone post a URL or other reference where I can get a 1-1 mapping
where applicable of all Oracle datatypes to SQL Server.

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Re: What is _NEXT_OBJECT

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According to MetaLink

   

 _NEXT_OBJECT is a hidden entry in 

 obj$ which determines the next

 object id to be created. It shouldn't 

 be seen in DBA_OBJECTS. The fact that 

 it is seen in ALL/USER_OBJECTS is a   

 bug, 691329 fixed in 8.1.7.   

   

 It will not harm anything.

   

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RE: Analytical Functions

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I think it is only available in EE not SE

Rick


   
   
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Part of the standard sql as was in 8i

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installed to use these functions

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RE: ora-600 when analyzing IOT

2003-08-14 Thread Rick_Cale





Igor,

When you gather statistics on an IOT with the ANALYZE command, it will
analyze the primary key and overflow segment so I would think
this is all that is required by CBO.  Hopefully others have more insight.

Rick


   

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Rick,

Thanks for prompt reply.
I tried it (deleting statistics before analyzing table) and it worked.

Any ideas, whether cost-based optimizer need statistics on IOT or having
statistics on PK index of IOT would be enough?


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According to MetaLink you need to delete statistics and re-analyze
I do not know your database version but this is supposely fixed in 8.1.6



 execute

 dbms_stats.delete_table_stats('owner','IPN_MEASUREMENT');



 analyze table ipn_measurement estimate statistics ;







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Ok, since my original message still hasn't arrived (sent couple hours
ago), here it goes again (sorry, if you get duplicate).

First, sorry for asking this list before searching Metalink, but I don't
have access to it right now.
So, here it is:

I'm getting:

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [15163], [333], [17424],
[16191], [], [], [], []

when analyzing one of the index-organized tables:
ANALYZE TABLE ipn_measurement ESTIMATE STATISTICS.

Now, similar statement analyzing other IOTs works fine.

Also, on the same table (ipn_measurement) analyze worked fine yesterday,
and the table didn't grew too much since yesterday.

Any ideas?

Another question, do I really have to run analyze table on IOT for
cost-based optimizer, or analyzing index would be enough:

ANALYZE INDEX pk_ipn_measurement ESTIMATE STATISTICS

because analyze index still runs with no errors.

Oracle version is 8.1.5.

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Re: ora-600 when analyzing IOT

2003-08-14 Thread Rick_Cale





According to MetaLink you need to delete statistics and re-analyze
I do not know your database version but this is supposely fixed in 8.1.6

   
  
 execute   
  
 dbms_stats.delete_table_stats('owner','IPN_MEASUREMENT');   
  
   
  
 analyze table ipn_measurement estimate statistics ;   
  
   
  




HTH
Rick



   

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Ok, since my original message still hasn't arrived (sent couple hours
ago), here it goes again (sorry, if you get duplicate).

First, sorry for asking this list before searching Metalink, but I don't
have access to it right now.
So, here it is:

I'm getting:

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [15163], [333], [17424],
[16191], [], [], [], []

when analyzing one of the index-organized tables:
ANALYZE TABLE ipn_measurement ESTIMATE STATISTICS.

Now, similar statement analyzing other IOTs works fine.

Also, on the same table (ipn_measurement) analyze worked fine yesterday,
and the table didn't grew too much since yesterday.

Any ideas?

Another question, do I really have to run analyze table on IOT for
cost-based optimizer, or analyzing index would be enough:

ANALYZE INDEX pk_ipn_measurement ESTIMATE STATISTICS

because analyze index still runs with no errors.

Oracle version is 8.1.5.

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Re: Antw: Take an Oracle 8.1 export file back to an Oracle 7.1

2003-08-12 Thread Rick_Cale





You could load the 7.1 exp on the 8.1 server and export then import on 7.1
server

Rick



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Hi David,

no, not possible to my knowledge. You have to use the 7.1 exp against
the 8.1 server. That's what they all say. If anyone knows better,
I would be glad to hear from him.

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Is it possible to take an Oracle Version 8.1 database export file and load
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The export file of the 8.1 is on a different machine than the 7.1 database.
If I can not is there some other method
I can use to get the data from the 8.1 export file to the 7.1 database.


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RE: License Question

2003-08-11 Thread Rick_Cale





Harvinder,

You should call you Oracle sales rep.  All pricing is negotiable depending
on whether it is end-of-quarter, how close mars is in alignment with
earth,etc.
Also, always try to negotiate education credits,etc.  I have found
end-of-quarter is best, they all like that trip to Hawaii...seen it too
many times.

Rick


   

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Hi,

One of our client is using 8.1.7 database server. We have install 9.2
client
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Do the client have to buy oracle 9i client(or they need to buy complete 9i
server edition) and does anyone know how much it cost for 1 license of
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RE: ora-600 when analyzing IOT

2003-08-07 Thread Rick_Cale





I am not sure but based on the definition of an IOT I would think you would
have to ANALYZE TABLE since the primary key data is not duplicated in
a separate index.

Rick


   

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Does it mean, that if I don't have overflow segment in my IOT, I don't
have to analyze table, just analyze PK?

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Igor,

When you gather statistics on an IOT with the ANALYZE command, it will
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this is all that is required by CBO.  Hopefully others have more
insight.

Rick




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Rick,

Thanks for prompt reply.
I tried it (deleting statistics before analyzing table) and it worked.

Any ideas, whether cost-based optimizer need statistics on IOT or having
statistics on PK index of IOT would be enough?


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According to MetaLink you need to delete statistics and re-analyze
I do not know your database version but this is supposely fixed in 8.1.6



 execute

 dbms_stats.delete_table_stats('owner','IPN_MEASUREMENT');



 analyze table ipn_measurement estimate statistics ;







HTH
Rick





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Ok, since my original message still hasn't arrived (sent couple hours
ago), here it goes again (sorry, if you get duplicate).

First, sorry for asking this list before searching Metalink, but I don't
have access to it right now.
So, here it is:

I'm getting:

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [15163], [333], [17424],
[16191], [], [], [], []

when analyzing one of the index-organized tables:
ANALYZE TABLE ipn_measurement ESTIMATE STATISTICS.

Now, similar statement analyzing other IOTs works fine.

Also, on the same table (ipn_measurement) analyze worked fine yesterday,
and the table didn't grew too much since yesterday.

Any ideas?

Another question, do I really have to run analyze table on IOT for
cost-based optimizer, or analyzing index would be enough:

ANALYZE INDEX 

RE: ** is there PL/SQL for case

2003-08-07 Thread Rick_Cale
   

 Starting with Oracle9i, PL/SQL

 supports the use of case statements   

 and   

 case expressions. These constructs

 are often convenient to use in place  

 of complex if-then-else logic and 

 function similarly to counterparts in 

   

 other languages (e.g. the C switch

 statement).   

   

 Case statements are standalone

 statements that can appear anywhere   

 any   

 other PL/SQL statement can appear.

 Case expressions are similar to case  

 statements, but return a value and

 can only appear in places where any   

 other PL/SQL expression can appear.   

   










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I am not sure in 9i. But in 8i I think you can use case in sql but not in
pl/sql. You have to use if elsif in pl/sql.

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  Hi,
Is there a statement in pl/SQL like case or is if elsif the only
  way. Meaning if I need to transalate state depending on input number
  as follows :

  1 - CA
  2 - OR
  3 - WA
  4 - AR

  Can I have one statement like case 'state# :

  1: 

RE: impersonating another user???

2003-08-04 Thread Rick_Cale





Dennis,

Thanks for replying but I think you either read/responded to the wrong
question or jumped to the wrong conclusion.  Perhaps the subject line was
the reason.  Tom Kyte has an entire section on n-tier authentication as
well as Oracle.  However I cannot put all the pieces together as no good
examples are presented on entire usage.  I was hoping someone has some
experience in this.  This has NOTHING to do with divulging/changing
passwords.  Sorry no bad odor on this oneg.

Thanks
Rick


   

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Rick
   Since nobody has responded to your question, I'll answer: No, haven't
tried that. Most of us work hard to keep a user from impersonating another
user. ;-)
Seriously, this whole system might get you fired someday. I can just see
you
trying to explain how this is a legitimate request several years ago, but
you can't find the authorizing memo. At most sites, the answer is that if
the manager wants the subordinate to act as them, he/she provides the
password and changes the password upon return. Yep, this one has a bad
odor.

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Hi DBAs,

Oracle 8.1.7.4

I want to be able to have users log into the database with an OS integrated
account and set up only certain users that log in to act on the behalf of
another integrated user account.  (i.e. A manager is given access to a
database where he may delegate his authority to an administrative assistant
who logs into the database and when the assistant connects, the database
automatically impersonates the assistants account to appear as the managers
account.  Giving them the same database permission's as the manager.  Also
I would want to be able to look at the USER keyword to determine who is
really logged in, and who they are impersonating if anyone.
I hope this makes sense.

I have read some on n-tier authentication using the following but really do
not understand how it works.

ALTER USER app_user1 GRANT CONNECT THROUGH sh  WITH ROLE warehouse_user;

Has anyone done this? If so any help is appreciated.

Thanks
Rick

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Re: what is BAARF?

2003-08-04 Thread Rick_Cale





According to http://www.baarf.com/

Battle Against Any Raid F

BAARF was invented by James Morle on Wednesday the 4th of June, 2003, in
the Grange hotel outside Birmingham while having a beer or two with Mogens
Nrgaard.


On the following day - Thursday the 5th of June, which happens to be the
Danish national holiday celebrating our constitution - the Battle Agaist
Any Raid Five initiative was announced jointly by James and Mogens in front
of the UK Oracle User Group UNIX Special Interest Group meeting at the
Grange hotel.


Both announcers were careful to sport the Enough is Enough look
(including arms folded across the chest) while delivering the message to
about 80 delegates.


Its important to note, that RAID-3, -4, and -5 are all included in the
initiative, so the F in BAARF both stands for Five, Four, and err Free.



   

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I see it here all the time. Any articles on it? Im assuming its some kind
of storage system right?

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impersonating another user???

2003-08-01 Thread Rick_Cale




Hi DBAs,

Oracle 8.1.7.4

I want to be able to have users log into the database with an OS integrated
account and set up only certain users that log in to act on the behalf of
another integrated user account.  (i.e. A manager is given access to a
database where he may delegate his authority to an administrative assistant
who logs into the database and when the assistant connects, the database
automatically impersonates the assistants account to appear as the managers
account.  Giving them the same database permission's as the manager.  Also
I would want to be able to look at the USER keyword to determine who is
really logged in, and who they are impersonating if anyone.
I hope this makes sense.

I have read some on n-tier authentication using the following but really do
not understand how it works.

ALTER USER app_user1 GRANT CONNECT THROUGH sh  WITH ROLE warehouse_user;

Has anyone done this? If so any help is appreciated.

Thanks
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Top DW requirements needed

2003-07-27 Thread Rick_Cale




Hi DBAs,

I am very new to data warehouse and I am looking for bullet list, URLs,
etc. that list what are the essential data warehousing requirements
that needs identifying.  I know you obviously have to understand the
business prior to identifying requirements.  I assume some of the
requirements are

1.  Understand business process
2.  Identify what information the Users need to better accomplish their job
such as user objectives and challenges
3.  Identify data experts, where data resides,etc.

If anyone has a formal list of MUST or suggested requirements I would like
to see them.

Thanks
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RE: Windohs - monthly at job

2003-07-08 Thread Rick_Cale





Looks correct but you should use task scheduler.

Rick


   
 
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I think it is like this, In a DOS window type;

AT 17:00 /every:1,15 C:\PATH TO BAT FILE\BAT_FILE_NAME

Not positive, but I think it is like this.

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  Hi all,

  Does anybody know the syntax to schedule a monthly at job on
  Windows (2000)? I need to schedule a job for the 1st and 15th every
  month, and would like to avoid the Task Scheduler GUI.

  A virtual pint o' Guiness (mm...) for anybody who can help!

  Thanks!

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Re: ORA-01858: a non-numeric character was found

2003-06-23 Thread Rick_Cale


Try it without the quotes surrounding your date field.

Rick



   

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The following was issued from SQL*Plus (8.1.7) on HP-UX 11.0:


SQL declare
  2  stat boolean := false;
  3  begin
  4  DBMS_JOB.BROKEN(1,stat,'TRUNC(SYSDATE)+22/24');
  5  end;
  6  /
declare
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01858: a non-numeric character was found where a numeric was expected
ORA-06512: at line 4


I can replace stat with FALSE in the parameter list with the same
results.
What am I doing wrong?


Thanx,
Alan Martin
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Battle Creek, MI






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Need ocfgutil.exe

2003-06-03 Thread Rick_Cale


Hi,

I have installed Oracle Administration Assistant 8.1.7.4 on Win 2000.
However the utility ocfgutil.exe was not installed.
Apparently this is a common problem according to MetaLink.  Does anyone
have this utility that can be e-mailed
offline?  If so please rename the extension.

Thanks
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How to prevent single point-of_failure with ONAMES

2003-04-01 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All,

Oracle 8.1.7.4 Win 2000 ONAMES with region database

I have ONAMES repository on server1
I have 2 additional onames services on server2 and server3(no
database/repository).

I received a NNO-50 serious errors in configuration data. I do not know how
it happened but I had to truncate and reload
nmo_master and the 3 onrs_* tables.  However this error caused a single
point-of-failure.  None of the oname services on
all 3 servers would start. I was under the impression under these
circumstances that Oracle would use CHKP* files.

How can I prevent a single point-of-failure other than some type of hot
standby?
Can I have 2 repositories? If so where can I get doc to set this up?

Thanks
Rick

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RE: How to prevent single point-of_failure with ONAMES

2003-04-01 Thread Rick_Cale

What had happened was the data in the table onrs_region got corrupted but
the region database was still up.  Somehow this caused all 3 name services
to shutdown on all 3 servers. I do not have a clue how that is possible.
There were checkpoint file on all servers but still no one connected.
Perhaps the
corrupted data got replicated to the other servers.
The only error was the nno-50.

Thanks
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Wierd.  Our primary ONAMES server is 8.0.5 on OpenVMS, with the Region DB
being on the same box.  Our secondary ONAMES server is 9.2.0.2 on WinTuke
using the same Region DB as the primary (amazing that 9iR2 can still use an
8.0.5 Region DB).  Yes, we are working on upgrading this config, despite
it being extremely stable due to non-support by Oracle Corp.

One upon a time, a controller on the primary ONAMES / region DB server
puked, causing the server to crash.  While it was down, all Oracle Net
connections eventually failed over to the secondary ONAMES server, which
was
indeed using the local checkpoint files for names resolution.  It worked
well with the only downside being that the clients had to wait for a TCP/IP
timeout on the primary ONAMES server until it failed over to the secondary,
but at least connections were able to be made.

So when your primary failed the secondary/tertiary failed, too???  You
stated that they wouldn't start, as though they hadn't been running.  If
they hadn't been running, there's probably no local checkpoint files, which
I would think would prevent them from starting successfully.  Were there
any
error messages?


Rich

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Hi All,

Oracle 8.1.7.4 Win 2000 ONAMES with region database

I have ONAMES repository on server1
I have 2 additional onames services on server2 and server3(no
database/repository).

I received a NNO-50 serious errors in configuration data. I do not know how
it happened but I had to truncate and reload
nmo_master and the 3 onrs_* tables.  However this error caused a single
point-of-failure.  None of the oname services on
all 3 servers would start. I was under the impression under these
circumstances that Oracle would use CHKP* files.

How can I prevent a single point-of-failure other than some type of hot
standby?
Can I have 2 repositories? If so where can I get doc to set this up?

Thanks
Rick
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How to delete name service

2003-03-31 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All,

Oracle 8.1.7.4 Win 2000
Does anyone know how to delete a name server.  I created thru net8
assistant however it will the service will not start.
I want to remove it. When I highlight it the 'X' is not deleted nor thru
menu options. How can I safely remove name service.

Thanks
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SQL*LOADER question

2003-03-19 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All,





  I have two (2) Windows 2000 (w2k) machines, one running Oracle 8i at a
  remote site (WAN connection) and another on my desk running the Oracle
  client software(no database). Can I, and if so how, use sqlldr on my  
  desktop PC to load data into the remote database. The data file to be 
  loaded and the control file are on my desktop. I do not want to use   
  netmeeting or PC anywhere type programs which I know I can use.   
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Best way to secure underlying tables in a view

2003-03-17 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All,

I have a view made of 4 tables with different owners.  I want to grant
users select privs on that view but I do not want them to select on
underlying tables.
What is best approach?

Thanks
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AFTER database logon trigger keeps sessions open

2003-03-11 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All,

I have a after database logon trigger on server/instance 1.  All it does is
insert a record into instance on server2 via a database link.
This creates a session on server2.  So every user who logs on to server1 a
session is created on server2.  The session does not
go away. Does anyone know why it does not after the user logs on?

Below is after logon trigger

DECLARE

--  str varchar2(200);
  CURSOR temp_rec IS
SELECT user AS user_name,
   NVL(UPPER(SUBSTR(osuser,1,30)),'SERVER') AS os_user_name,
   RTRIM(NVL(SUBSTR(machine,instr(machine,'\') +1,12),'SERVER'),CHR(0))
AS machine_name,
   sid AS session_id,
   serial# AS serial_no,
   SYSDATE AS logon_time,
   SYS_CONTEXT('userenv','ip_address') AS ip_address,
   NVL(SUBSTR(program,1,64),'INTERNAL') AS program_name,
   i.instance_name AS instance_name,
   i.host_name AS host_name,
   i.version AS version
FROM v$session s,v$instance i
WHERE s.username = user
AND   s.logon_time = (SELECT MAX(x.logon_time)
  FROM v$session x
  WHERE x.username = user);
BEGIN
FOR rec IN temp_rec LOOP
INSERT INTO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  os_user_name,
  machine_name,
  session_id,
  serial_no,
  logon_time,
  ip_address,
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  instance_name,
  host_name,
  version)
VALUES (rec.user_name,
  rec.os_user_name,
  rec.machine_name,
  rec.session_id,
  rec.serial_no,
  rec.logon_time,
  rec.ip_address,
  rec.program_name,
  rec.instance_name,
  rec.host_name,
  rec.version);
END LOOP;
EXCEPTION
 WHEN OTHERS THEN
   NULL;
END;

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RE: What privs are required to alter a trigger owned by SYS?

2003-03-07 Thread Rick_Cale

Yes but do you have an answer to original question


   
  
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Hi all,


I have trigger owned by sys. It is actually an after login trigger. I want
certain users to be able to enable/disable this trigger. What privs are
required?
I have tried alter any trigger and I still get insufficient privs when
trying to enable trigger.


Thanks
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Re: show errors doesn't show anything ???

2003-03-06 Thread Rick_Cale

You can try select * from dba_errors where name='PRV_ADMIN';

Rick


   
 
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I have 9i on Linux Red Hat 2.4.9.  A package is
invalid after compiling.  I did a show errors but
nothing shows.  How do I see where the error is ??

SQL alter package prv_admin compile;

Warning: Package altered with compilation errors.

SQL show errors;
No errors.

Thank you in advance!

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What privs are required to alter a trigger owned by SYS?

2003-03-06 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi all,

I have trigger owned by sys. It is actually an after login trigger. I want
certain users to be able to enable/disable this trigger. What privs are
required?
I have tried alter any trigger and I still get insufficient privs when
trying to enable trigger.

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Info on context option

2003-03-01 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi DBAs,

Oracle 8.1.6 SE, WinNT
We are considering using Oracle Context.  Is this a separately sold product
and is it available in enterprise edition.
I cannot find this info anywhere. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks
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Name Server questions

2003-02-21 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi DBAs,

Oracle 8.1.6 WinNT
I am trying to understand how Oracle Names is configured.  We have a Oracle
Names database on server 1.
We also have 2 other oraclenames services on server 2 and 3.  I understand
how server 1 was created and works.
What I do not understand is the services on server 2 and 3. How they got
created,etc.  Server 2 and 3 are in the
sqlnet.ora file.  My question is what oracle utility is used to create
those services and how they are configured to work with
the database on server 1?

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Is there a way to have ops$account privs to shutdown/startup database

2003-02-19 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All,

Oracle 8.1.7.4 WinNT

Is there a way to have ops$account privs to shutdown/startup database?
Oracle does not allow granting sysoper to external accounts.

Thanks
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Re: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Rick_Cale

Lisa,

Pick your favorite sid on that server ex. lisa

delete the password file associated with sid lisa. It will be in your
oracle_home\database directory.

At the command prompt delete that instance. This will not delete the
database

oradim -delete -sid lisa

Recreate service using
oradim -new -sid lisa -intpwd newpwd -maxusers 30 -startmode auto -pfile
fullpath\initlisa.ora

Alway review the oradim.log in your oracle_home\database directory after
running each oradim

Try connecting to database

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Good morning everyone,


Windows 2000 sp3, ver 8.1.7.2


I have NO IDEA what is going on here.  I can't start any of the services
associated with Oracle, not with my logon, not with local admin, not with a
local account with appropriate permissions, nothing.


Here's what I've tried:
 Followed note on metalink stating to add local security policies:  Act
 as part of operating system, increase quotas, log on as batch job,
 replace a process level token, and rebooted.

 All logons are part of the administrator and the ORA_DBA group.

 I am able to log in as each of these local accounts, the accounts are
 not locked or messed up.  I have double-checked the password in the
 properties tab.

 Local system account also fails with same error.



Here's the error I receive when I try to manually start the listener
service:


Could not start the OracleOraHome81TNSListener service on Local Computer.
The service did not return an error  This could be an internal Windows
error or an internal service error.  If the problem persists, contact your
system administrator.


I am clueless and so is the sysadmin.  I am just thankful this is a test
system instead of production... I know next to nothing about windows.


Any suggestions would be helpful.  Thanks


Lisa Koivu
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How does the Oracle Home selector get installed

2003-02-18 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All,

I have installed Oracle 8.1.6 and 8.1.7 on WinNT in different Homes. When I
had multiple Oracle homes in the past there was always an
Oracle home selector installed. It was not this time. How does this get
installed? I want to install this portion.

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Re: When were Locally Managed Tablespaces introduced?

2003-02-17 Thread Rick_Cale

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I'm not having much luck - I thought it was with 9i, but the new features
guide doesn't list it.  So now I'm trawling through old new features
guides ... and thought some bright people out there might remember (faster
than I can find it in a bunch of pdfs, web pages, etc.).

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RE: No redo or archived log files

2003-02-14 Thread Rick_Cale

Yes it is my understanding he does not have any online redo or archive logs
current or backups.  He just has current datafiles
where the database will not start because of no online redo so I can assume
those have been lost,corrupt,etc.

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His last cold backup of the datafiles is his only option.  Without the
online redologs, assuming that he lost the physical files, he will have
to create a controlfile with the resetlogs option and open the database
in the same mode.  Is my assumption true?  Was he backing up only data
files and the database was in archivelog mode?

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Hi All,

One of my friends has a database crash.  He has no backup of  online
redo and archived log files. His question is How do you recover the
database if all the online redologfiles and all archived files are lost
?

Don't ask me why he did not have any backups or mirror online redo.

Thanks
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No redo or archived log files

2003-02-13 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All,

One of my friends has a database crash.  He has no backup of  online redo
and archived log files. His question is
How do you recover the database if all the online redologfiles and all
archived files are lost ?

Don't ask me why he did not have any backups or mirror online redo.

Thanks
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database file sizes....more of smaller size or less of larger size?

2003-02-12 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi DBAs,

Oracle 8.1.7 WinNT

I would like pros/cons on datafile sizes. It is better to have more of less
size or less with larger sizes and why?

Thanks
Rick

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What is minimum privs to have user do hot backups

2003-02-06 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All,

If I create a backup user, what is the minimum requirements to connect as
that user and do hot backups?

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Determine how many used and free blocks in an extent.

2003-02-05 Thread Rick_Cale
Does any have a script that shows actual # of used and free blocks in an
extent? I would like to determine the maximum # of contiguous
free blocks within an extent

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Rick

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RE: 100% CPU utilization, urgent

2003-01-20 Thread Rick_Cale

Lisa,

To get info at the thread level and determine what thread within a process
is consuming the most CPU you have to use something like
performance monitor or Process Viewer.

Using Performance monitor you want to choose THREAD from the performance
object drop-down and choose ID Thread from the counter list..
In the instance list box you will see a separate line for each oracle
thread showing the instance # of the thread. You can choose any/all of the
threads
and then choose ADD. The value now in the performance monitor will show you
the actual thread ID that you can match to the SPID column
in V$PROCESS.

For ex.
SELECT s.*
FROM v$session s, v$process p
where p.spid='spid_in_perf_mon'
and p.addr=s.paddr;

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Thomas, thanks for your post.


However I don't see where I can match the threads on NT to what I see in
Task Manager.  Am I missing something?


To be more explicit, here's what I've got:


SQL select * from dba_nt_threads;


ID_THREAD B NAMESIDSERIAL# USERNAME
STATUS   OSUSER
- - - - -- --
 
3144  1 PMON  1  1
ACTIVE   SYSTEM
2436  1 DBW0  2  1
ACTIVE   SYSTEM
2972  1 LGWR  3  1
ACTIVE   SYSTEM
3172  1 CKPT  4  1
ACTIVE   SYSTEM
2976  1 SMON  5  1
ACTIVE   SYSTEM
3380  1 RECO  6  1
ACTIVE   SYSTEM
2840 11   1973 LISA
ACTIVE   lkoivu2
900  12  2 DBSNMP
INACTIVE SYSTEM


8 rows selected.


I see no processes in task manager that correspond to any of the numbers
listed in ID_THREAD.  In fact my sessions script used to reference spid,
but I took it out because I couldn't make sense of it on Windows.


Thanks for any insight.


Lisa Koivu
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Create the view dba_nt_threads and query it, then run the monitor CPU per
session.  These are not my scripts --- I'm pretty sure that they were
posted here by others --- but I did not capture the information on who
originally wrote them.  My apologies.  HTH


--cr_dba_nt_threads.sql
-- run as sys
create or replace view
 dba_NT_threads
 as
 select
 p.spid ID_THREAD,
 p.background BACKGROUND,
 b.name NAME,
 s.sid SID,
 s.serial# SERIAL#,
 s.username USERNAME,
 s.status STATUS,
 s.osuser OSUSER,
 s.program PROGRAM
 from
 v$process p,
 v$bgprocess b,
 v$session s
 where
 s.paddr = p.addr
 and
 b.paddr(+) = p.addr;
create public synonym dba_nt_threads for dba_nt_threads;
create public synonym threads for dba_nt_threads;





-- monitor CPU per session
-- requires timed statistics on
col sid format 
SELECT v.SID, SUBSTR(s.NAME,1,30) Statistic, v.VALUE
FROM V$STATNAME s, V$SESSTAT v
WHERE s.NAME = 'CPU used by this session'
AND v.STATISTIC# = s.STATISTIC#







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Installer does not run on Win 2k Service Pack 3

2003-01-16 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi DBAs,

Has anyone had trouble installing Oracle 8.x on Win 2k Service Pack 3?.
When I tried installing 8.1.6 and 8.1.7 the installer does not start.
Oracle 9.x installs fine.
I do not know if it related to SP3 or not as I was able to install on
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Re: Installer does not run on Win 2k Service Pack 3

2003-01-16 Thread Rick_Cale

Ooops I forgot it is that P4 bug!!!


   
   
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Hi DBAs,

Has anyone had trouble installing Oracle 8.x on Win 2k Service Pack 3?.
When I tried installing 8.1.6 and 8.1.7 the installer does not start.
Oracle 9.x installs fine.
I do not know if it related to SP3 or not as I was able to install on
similar server with SP 2.

Thanks
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Where to get info on global temp tables

2003-01-15 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All,

I cannot seem to find DD view on global temp tables. I would think Oracle
stores it somewhere. Also is there a way to change from delete rows to
preserve rows via some alter command.

Thanks
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Re: Which session is killing performance?

2003-01-10 Thread Rick_Cale

Once you know the thread id (ex. 2496) you can do the following

SELECT s.osuser,s.program,s.terminal   /* whatever you want to see */
FROM v$session s, v$process p
WHERE p.spid = '2496'
AND p.addr = s.paddr;

Rick


   

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True, but how you associate thread# in PerformanceMonitore with Oracle's
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 I believe you can if you use performance monitor and chart by thread.

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 Ference,

 Oracle on Windows runs as one multithreaded process, so you wouldn't get
 specific session id sorting list of processes by CPU.

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  Since you are on Weenie-doze:
  go to task manager (3 finger salute [alt+ctrl+delete]), and order by
CPU
  descending, then look at the PID, make a note of it, and run this
script,
  entering the PID:
 
  column log_tim format a18
  col username format a12
  col osuser for a12
  set linesize 132
  set verify off
  set pagesize 80
  col program for a20
  accept id prompt 'Enter shadow process ID : '
  select osuser, a.program, sid, a.serial#, sql_address, prev_sql_Addr,
  taddr,
  to_char(logon_time,'DD:HH24:MI:SS') log_tim, spid from v$session a,
  v$process b
  where b.spid=('id') and a.paddr = b.addr(+) and a.type !='BACKGROUND'
  order by logon_time desc ;
 
  Once you have SQL_ADDRESS, then run THIS script, copying and pasting
the
  SQL_ADDRESS value:
 
  set pagesize 200
  set verify off
  accept adr char prompt Enter SQL_ADDRESS for session whose SQL you
wish
 to
  see : 
  select ltrim(rtrim(sql_text)) from v$sqltext where address = 'adr'
 order
  by piece;
 
 
  Or if you have the PID, launch Toad, and get the Trace/Kill view and
 filter
  it for the PID, it will show you the SQL in the bottom pane. Much
quicker
  with TOAD.
 
  Regards :
 
  Ferenc Mantfeld
 
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  Newbie question time:
 
  We have 8.1.7 running on Win 2000 with about 50 users. The system has
  just slowed down dramatically for about 5 minutes, with lots of user
  complaints. I suspect one of the developers was loading data or doing
  some DML. But how do I find who it is? I found a small piece of code on
  AskTom that returned a user whose SQL has been running longer that x
  seconds, but this wont necessarily be the user I'm looking for, will
  it?. Is there something in 

Re: Determine max # of concurrent users at schema level

2003-01-10 Thread Rick_Cale

This is at the instance level. As suspected the only way is through
auditing.

Thanks
Rick


   
 
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There is no such view, but can be very simply obtained by turning on
auditing and placing auditing for connects for user. Later you can aanalyze
the connects and disconnects in a given time period to get max concurrent
access.

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 V$LICENSE will show max # of concurrent users since instance startup.  Is
 there another view or something to determine max # of concurrent sessions
 for
 each schema?

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Determine max # of concurrent users at schema level

2003-01-09 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All,

V$LICENSE will show max # of concurrent users since instance startup.  Is
there another view or something to determine max # of concurrent sessions
for
each schema?

Thanks
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Re: Which session is killing performance?

2003-01-09 Thread Rick_Cale

I believe you can if you use performance monitor and chart by thread.

Rick



   

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Oracle on Windows runs as one multithreaded process, so you wouldn't get
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 Since you are on Weenie-doze:
 go to task manager (3 finger salute [alt+ctrl+delete]), and order by CPU
 descending, then look at the PID, make a note of it, and run this script,
 entering the PID:

 column log_tim format a18
 col username format a12
 col osuser for a12
 set linesize 132
 set verify off
 set pagesize 80
 col program for a20
 accept id prompt 'Enter shadow process ID : '
 select osuser, a.program, sid, a.serial#, sql_address, prev_sql_Addr,
 taddr,
 to_char(logon_time,'DD:HH24:MI:SS') log_tim, spid from v$session a,
 v$process b
 where b.spid=('id') and a.paddr = b.addr(+) and a.type !='BACKGROUND'
 order by logon_time desc ;

 Once you have SQL_ADDRESS, then run THIS script, copying and pasting the
 SQL_ADDRESS value:

 set pagesize 200
 set verify off
 accept adr char prompt Enter SQL_ADDRESS for session whose SQL you wish
to
 see : 
 select ltrim(rtrim(sql_text)) from v$sqltext where address = 'adr'
order
 by piece;


 Or if you have the PID, launch Toad, and get the Trace/Kill view and
filter
 it for the PID, it will show you the SQL in the bottom pane. Much quicker
 with TOAD.

 Regards :

 Ferenc Mantfeld

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 Newbie question time:

 We have 8.1.7 running on Win 2000 with about 50 users. The system has
 just slowed down dramatically for about 5 minutes, with lots of user
 complaints. I suspect one of the developers was loading data or doing
 some DML. But how do I find who it is? I found a small piece of code on
 AskTom that returned a user whose SQL has been running longer that x
 seconds, but this wont necessarily be the user I'm looking for, will
 it?. Is there something in v$session I should be looking at?

 Any help appreciated

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Re: Determine max # of concurrent users at schema level

2003-01-09 Thread Rick_Cale

Yeah that's what I thought.

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AUDIT on connections, and good ol' SQL ...

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RE: Different Oracle clients give different results

2003-01-02 Thread Rick_Cale

Oracle says this is intended behavior for desc function just more
rigorously enforced in later versions.  I am still skeptical as desc works
in 8.1.6
svrmgrl.  Perhaps enforced in sqlplus but not svrmgr...too many
inconsistencies.

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Are all of the sqlnet.ora files resolving hostnames in the same order
i.e., NAMES.DIRECTORY_PATH= (ONAMES, TNSNAMES, HOSTNAME)?  I'd also
check for a rogue tnsnames.ora file in the same path as the executable.

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Hi DBAs,

Oracle Server 8.1.6 Win 2000  Oracle Names

I have the following Oracle clients installed locally.  I connect to the
server using the same USER.  When I describe
a package and procedure with package I get different results depending
on
the client.

Any ideas what is going on here

8.0.5
 desc pkg_charts WORKS
   desc pkg_charts.select_affiliatesWORKS
8.1.6
 desc pkg_charts WORKS
   desc pkg_charts.select_affiliatesORA-04043: object
pkg_charts.select_affiliates does not exist

8.1.7
 desc pkg_charts WORKS
   desc pkg_charts.select_affiliatesORA-04043: object
pkg_charts.select_affiliates does not exist


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Different Oracle clients give different results

2002-12-31 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi DBAs,

Oracle Server 8.1.6 Win 2000  Oracle Names

I have the following Oracle clients installed locally.  I connect to the
server using the same USER.  When I describe
a package and procedure with package I get different results depending on
the client.

Any ideas what is going on here

8.0.5
 desc pkg_charts WORKS
   desc pkg_charts.select_affiliatesWORKS
8.1.6
 desc pkg_charts WORKS
   desc pkg_charts.select_affiliatesORA-04043: object
pkg_charts.select_affiliates does not exist

8.1.7
 desc pkg_charts WORKS
   desc pkg_charts.select_affiliatesORA-04043: object
pkg_charts.select_affiliates does not exist


Thanks
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RE: Different Oracle clients give different results

2002-12-31 Thread Rick_Cale

Brian,

Yes I have checked all of this.  Three other co-workers are having same
problem except they just have the one Oracle client 8.1.7. It
appears to be client related.

Thanks
Rick



   
  
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Are all of the sqlnet.ora files resolving hostnames in the same order
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check for a rogue tnsnames.ora file in the same path as the executable.

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Hi DBAs,

Oracle Server 8.1.6 Win 2000  Oracle Names

I have the following Oracle clients installed locally.  I connect to the
server using the same USER.  When I describe
a package and procedure with package I get different results depending
on
the client.

Any ideas what is going on here

8.0.5
 desc pkg_charts WORKS
   desc pkg_charts.select_affiliatesWORKS
8.1.6
 desc pkg_charts WORKS
   desc pkg_charts.select_affiliatesORA-04043: object
pkg_charts.select_affiliates does not exist

8.1.7
 desc pkg_charts WORKS
   desc pkg_charts.select_affiliatesORA-04043: object
pkg_charts.select_affiliates does not exist


Thanks
Rick

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Re: Rebuilding Indexes...

2002-12-27 Thread Rick_Cale

If you know you have 3 duplicate records in the table then the PK must have
already been disabled so you have to rebuild anyway.  I do not see
where you had to disable in order to use the exception table. It was
already disabled therefore it probably not an app problem but a disable
constraint
problem unless direct load bypasses constraint checking which I am not
sure.

Rick



   
 
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Here's a reason:

have you ever tried to find the three duplicate rows in a 12 million
row table without using the primary key constraint? I've had to disable
or drop the constraint in order to use the exceptions table. Once I do
that, even if I've built a separate index that enforces the primary key
constraint, Oracle drops the index. So I HAVE to rebuild it. If I allow
the index to be rebuilt when I re-enable the primary key constraint, it
builds it in the default tablespace of the table owner, not where I
want it.

if anyone has a better way to fix this problem, I'm more than happy to
hear it! It's a data warehouse and the third party app has a bug we
can't find and on occasion sqlloads (via direct path) duplicate rows

Rachel

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 Though I have published a script for determining indexes that
 need to be rebuilt, and then rebuilding them,  I have to say that
 this is almost never necessary.

 Why are you rebuilding indexes?  About the only reason for ever
 doing so is that the BLEVEL = 5.

 goto asktom.oracle.com, and do a search on 'index rebuild'.

 Currently, the third article may be of interest.

 Jared

 On Thursday 26 December 2002 12:24, Richard Huntley wrote:
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Oracle.exe , CPU running at near 85%

2002-12-27 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi,

Oracle 8.1.6 on NT 4.0

Oracle.exe is running at about 85% CPU utilization.  What can I check to
see why that is the case?

Thanks
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OT: Forms,Reports performance problem

2002-12-27 Thread Rick_Cale
Oracle 8.1.6 Win Nt
Has anyone experience/heard of performace problems after migrating from
forms 5 to forms 6.0.8.15 and from reports 2.5 to 3.0?

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Re: best case scenarios for export/import

2002-12-20 Thread Rick_Cale

First of all you have to have an estimate on how long the import should
take.  Oracle rule-of-thumb formula for that is
   
  
 import elapsed time = 
export
 elapsed time X 4  
  
   
  
   
  


At least you have a targeted time to shoot for then try to improve if
necessary.

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Good day, all:

I'm looking for real-life best-case scenarios for running import/export . .
. I've been playing with this for quite some time and would like to know
how
fast I can really expect this to go, particularly for the import.

I'd be interested to hear others' experiences - how fast have you been able
to import data?  what parameters have you used? etc. . . . it's both for
informational purposes and as a sanity check.

For example:  I'm now trying to import a dump file of appx 6.5 Gb - breaks
down into 12G data and 4G indexes.
using the following params on the first import, to just get the data (I
then
rerun with the indexfile param to get the indexes):
recordlength=65535
buffer=1500 (15M)
commit=y
indexes=n
constraints=n
grants=n

This will import in appx 36 hours using a single 3 Gb rollback segment

What kind of experiences have you had?

Thanks
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Re: import and rollback segments

2002-12-20 Thread Rick_Cale

If you cannot take the small ones offline, I do not think you can force to
use a particular RBS.
You could possible create multiple large RBS then take smaller ones offline
then import. After completion put smaller ones online.
You can try commit=y to commit after each buffer instead of each object.
Use a larger BUFFER size on import to reduce round trips to
export file.

Perhaps others have some tricks

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Can a person somehow force a import process to use a specific rollback
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rollback segment.

I don't want to offline the small once so that only a big one is online
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Re: 8i OCP DBA Exams

2002-12-20 Thread Rick_Cale

Hi,

Voucher expiration dates having NOTHING to do with retiring of a track.
Every voucher has an expiration date, no different on any coupon
you get out of the newspaper.  No announcement has been made on retiring 8i
DBA track. Oracle typically retires a track 6 months after announcement.

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cover all 5 exams. Oracle sent me vouchers for the exams. The vouchers
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Rick_Cale

I have never met RUTH and I apologize in advance if I am wrong but I
thought I remember a post long ago indicating Ruth G is male?
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Rick_Cale

Ah Yes, that is exactly who I was thinking of.  Sorry Ruth Gramolini


   
 
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 not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but
 better
 than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more
 and
 more women are answering questions here as well


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OT: Guidelines/Standards for supporting non-oracle databases

2002-12-10 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi,

We are virtually an Oracle shop with 2-3 sql server databases due to
3rd-party software restrictions.
We have been asked about supporting other small databases such as
Access,etc within our company.  My question is if
you were asked to support smaller databases what
restrictions/guidelines/standards are worth considering?
Be kind-constructive answers only :-)

Thanks
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RE: archiving redo logs

2002-12-10 Thread Rick_Cale
   
  
 You must use the same 
version,  
 release, and patch of 
the   
 operating systems on 
the
 production and 
standby hosts.   
 The standby host can, 
however,  
 use a different disk  
  
 configuration.
  
   
  
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 How can I archive redo logs automatically to a different machine ?.
 Standby database is not an option because the target machine's OS is
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 Primary db is 8.1.7.2 resides on SUN E10k with SunOS 5.8.
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RE: Indicator variables

2002-12-09 Thread Rick_Cale

Tom is correct

indicator variables
0 - NOT NULL and data retrieved successfully
-1 - data is NULL
0 - NOT NULL but possible truncation of data.

In 3gl programs such as C ALWAYS use indicator variables.

Rick



   
   
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from what I remember, a NOT NULL constraint has no impact on an indicator
variable in 3GL programs.

The indicator variable indicates whether the value fetched is null or has a
value.

hope this helps.

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Hi All,
  What value does an indicator variable in a pro*c program assume when the
fetch column value is NOT NULL. Is is 0 or something other that -1.

  I would appreciate your help.

Thanks,
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Adam - Someone posted a better hidden? parameter awhile back. Jared, was
that you?

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I was afraid that'd be the only way.  Thanks.

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Hi


Set global_names = false in init.ora file and try again

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Don't ask how we got into this situation, but I have two instances with the
same global_name and need to be able to create a link between them.  Is
this
doable?

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Re: STATSPACK

2002-12-09 Thread Rick_Cale

I have not done it but supposely oracle_home\rdbms\admin\sppurge will do
it.

Rick



   
 
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sql tuning help

2002-12-06 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi,

Oracle 8.1.6 NT 4.0

I have a rather complex query a developer gave to me to try to improve
performance.
There are 3 tables used. All relevant columns used are indexed. The tables
have been analyzed

SQLWKS select count(*) from physicians;
COUNT(*)
--
340043
1 row selected.
SQLWKS select count(*) from boards;
COUNT(*)
--
   220
1 row selected.
SQLWKS select count(*) from phy_boards;
COUNT(*)
--
450674

Below is the sql statement and explain plan.
I see one FTS on 440,000+ records but cannot tell exactly what statement it
is and how to resolve

Any suggestions on how to optimize is appreciated.

Thanks
Rick

select board_other.description strBrdNameOtherTHQuest
   ,decode(board_aaps.description, null,' ','X') ysnAAPSBoard
   ,decode(board_aba.description, null,' ','X') ysnABABoard
   ,decode(board_abem.description, null,' ','X') ysnABEMBoard
   ,decode(board_abfp.description, null,' ','X') ysnABFPoard
   ,decode(board_abim.description, null,' ','X') ysnABIMBoard
   ,decode(board_abp.description, null,' ','X') ysnABPBoard
   ,decode(board_abr.description, null,' ','X') ysnABRBoard
   ,decode(board_aobem.description, null,' ','X') ysnAOBEMBoard
   ,decode(board_aobfp.description, null,' ','X') ysnAOBFPBoard
   ,decode(board_aobim.description, null,' ','X') ysnAOBIMBAoard
   ,decode(board_aobr.description, null,' ','X') ysnAOBRBoard
   ,decode(board_other.description, null,' ','X') ysnOtherBoard
   from physicians p
   ,(select distinct pb.phy_id, b.name, b.description
   from phy_boards pb, boards b
  where pb.board_id = b.board_id
and (pb.expiration_date = sysdate or
 pb.expiration_date is null)
and b.description like 'AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF PHYSICIAN
SPECIALIST%') board_aaps
   ,(select distinct pb.phy_id, b.name, b.description
   from phy_boards pb, boards b
  where pb.board_id = b.board_id
and (pb.expiration_date = sysdate or
 pb.expiration_date is null)
and b.description like 'AMERICAN BOARD OF ANESTHESIOLOGY%')
board_aba
   ,(select distinct pb.phy_id, b.name, b.description
   from phy_boards pb, boards b
  where pb.board_id = b.board_id
and (pb.expiration_date = sysdate or
 pb.expiration_date is null)
and b.description like 'AMERICAN BOARD OF EMERGENCY MEDICINE%')
board_abem
   ,(select distinct pb.phy_id, b.name, b.description
   from phy_boards pb, boards b
  where pb.board_id = b.board_id
and (pb.expiration_date = sysdate or
 pb.expiration_date is null)
and b.description like 'AMERICAN BOARD OF FAMILY PRACTICE%')
board_abfp
   ,(select distinct pb.phy_id, b.name, b.description
   from phy_boards pb, boards b
  where pb.board_id = b.board_id
and (pb.expiration_date = sysdate or
 pb.expiration_date is null)
and b.description like 'AMERICAN BOARD OF INTERNAL MEDICINE%')
board_abim
   ,(select distinct pb.phy_id, b.name, b.description
   from phy_boards pb, boards b
  where pb.board_id = b.board_id
and (pb.expiration_date = sysdate or
 pb.expiration_date is null)
and b.description like 'AMERICAN BOARD OF PEDIATRICS%')
board_abp
   ,(select distinct pb.phy_id, b.name, b.description
   from phy_boards pb, boards b
  where pb.board_id = b.board_id
and (pb.expiration_date = sysdate or
 pb.expiration_date is null)
and b.description like 'AMERICAN BOARD OF RADIOLOGY%')
board_abr
   ,(select distinct pb.phy_id, b.name, b.description
   from phy_boards pb, boards b
  where pb.board_id = b.board_id
and (pb.expiration_date = sysdate or
 pb.expiration_date is null)
and b.description like 'AMERICAN OSTEOPATHIC BOARD OF EMERGENCY
MEDICINE%') board_aobem
   ,(select distinct pb.phy_id, b.name, b.description
   from phy_boards pb, boards b
  where pb.board_id = b.board_id
and (pb.expiration_date = sysdate or
 pb.expiration_date is null)
and b.description like 'AMERICAN OSTEOPATHIC BOARD OF FAMILY
PHYSICIANS%') board_aobfp
   ,(select distinct pb.phy_id, b.name, b.description
   from phy_boards pb, boards b
  where pb.board_id = b.board_id
and (pb.expiration_date = sysdate or
 pb.expiration_date is null)
and b.description like 'AMERICAN OSTEOPATHIC BOARD OF INTERNAL
MEDICINE%') board_aobim
   ,(select distinct pb.phy_id, b.name, b.description
   from phy_boards pb, boards b
  where pb.board_id = b.board_id
and (pb.expiration_date = sysdate or
 pb.expiration_date is null)
and 

Re: sql tuning help

2002-12-06 Thread Rick_Cale

Thanks for the reply but I only see 1 FTS for the last inline view.
Some of the info was truncated from previous post. I am resending output

Plan Table

| Operation |  Name|  Rows | Bytes|  Cost  | Pstart|
Pstop |

| SELECT STATEMENT |  | 2 |
2K|
|  NESTED LOOPS OUTER  |  | 2 |
2K|
|   NESTED LOOPS OUTER |  | 1 |
1K|
|NESTED LOOPS OUTER|  | 1 |
1K|
| NESTED LOOPS OUTER   |  | 1 |
1K|
|  NESTED LOOPS OUTER  |  | 1 |
924 |
|   NESTED LOOPS OUTER |  | 1 |
809 |
|NESTED LOOPS OUTER|  | 1 |
694 |
| NESTED LOOPS OUTER   |  | 1 |
579 |
|  NESTED LOOPS OUTER  |  | 1 |
464 |
|   NESTED LOOPS OUTER |  | 1 |
349 |
|NESTED LOOPS OUTER|  | 1 |
234 |
| NESTED LOOPS OUTER   |  | 1 |
119 |
|  INDEX UNIQUE SCAN   |PHY_PK| 1 |
4 |
|  VIEW|  | 8K|
922K|
|   SORT UNIQUE|  | 8K|
649K|
|NESTED LOOPS  |  | 8K|
649K|
| INDEX FAST FULL SCAN |BOARD_NAM | 3 |
207 |
| TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID  |PHY_BOARD |   443K|
5M|
|  INDEX RANGE SCAN|PBRD_BOAR |   443K|
|
| VIEW |  | 8K|
922K|
|  SORT UNIQUE |  | 8K|
649K|
|   NESTED LOOPS   |  | 8K|
649K|
|INDEX FAST FULL SCAN  |BOARD_NAM | 3 |
207 |
|TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID   |PHY_BOARD |   443K|
5M|
| INDEX RANGE SCAN |PBRD_BOAR |   443K|
|
|VIEW  |  | 8K|
922K|
| SORT UNIQUE  |  | 8K|
649K|
|  NESTED LOOPS|  | 8K|
649K|
|   INDEX FAST FULL SCAN   |BOARD_NAM | 3 |
207 |
|   TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID|PHY_BOARD |   443K|
5M|
|INDEX RANGE SCAN  |PBRD_BOAR |   443K|
|
|   VIEW   |  | 8K|
922K|
|SORT UNIQUE   |  | 8K|
649K|
| NESTED LOOPS |  | 8K|
649K|
|  INDEX FAST FULL SCAN|BOARD_NAM | 3 |
207 |
|  TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID |PHY_BOARD |   443K|
5M|
|   INDEX RANGE SCAN   |PBRD_BOAR |   443K|
|
|  VIEW|  | 8K|
922K|
|   SORT UNIQUE|  | 8K|
649K|
|NESTED LOOPS  |  | 8K|
649K|
| INDEX FAST FULL SCAN |BOARD_NAM | 3 |
207 |
| TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID  |PHY_BOARD |   443K|
5M|
|  INDEX RANGE SCAN|PBRD_BOAR |   443K|
|
| VIEW |  | 8K|
922K|
|  SORT UNIQUE |  | 8K|
649K|
|   NESTED LOOPS   |  | 8K|
649K|
|INDEX FAST FULL SCAN  |BOARD_NAM | 3 |
207 |
|TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID   |PHY_BOARD |   443K|
5M|
| INDEX RANGE SCAN |PBRD_BOAR |   443K|
|
|VIEW  |  | 8K|
922K|
| SORT UNIQUE  |  | 8K|
649K|
|  NESTED LOOPS|  | 8K|
649K|
|   INDEX FAST FULL SCAN   |BOARD_NAM | 3 |
207 |
|   TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID|PHY_BOARD |   443K|
5M|
|INDEX RANGE SCAN  |PBRD_BOAR |   443K|
|
|   VIEW   |  | 8K|
922K|
|SORT UNIQUE   |  | 8K|
649K|
| NESTED LOOPS |  | 8K|
649K|
|  INDEX FAST FULL SCAN

RE: sql tuning help

2002-12-06 Thread Rick_Cale

Tom,

Actually it returns 1 record.

Thanks
Rick


   
   
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Rick,

does this return *any* records at all?  the only reason that I ask is that
in the 'where' clause, it is saying:

  where p.phy_id = board_aaps.phy_id (+)
and p.phy_id = board_aba.phy_id (+)
and p.phy_id = board_abem.phy_id (+)
and p.phy_id = board_abfp.phy_id (+)
and p.phy_id = board_abim.phy_id (+)
and p.phy_id = board_abp.phy_id (+)
and p.phy_id = board_abr.phy_id (+)
and p.phy_id = board_aobem.phy_id (+)
and p.phy_id = board_aobfp.phy_id (+)
and p.phy_id = board_aobim.phy_id (+)
and p.phy_id = board_aobr.phy_id (+)
and p.phy_id = board_other.phy_id (+)
and p.phy_id = 1870;

well, from my way of thinking, a single record from p.phy_id cannot be
equal
to all of the others at the same time.  so no records should be returned at
all.

I think I would re-wright the entire mess using a set of UNIONS to
accomplish the same thing.

something like:

select board_other.description strBrdNameOtherTHQuest
   ,decode(board_aaps.description, null,' ','X') ysnAAPSBoard
   ,decode(board_aba.description, null,' ','X') ysnABABoard
   ,decode(board_abem.description, null,' ','X') ysnABEMBoard
   ,decode(board_abfp.description, null,' ','X') ysnABFPoard
   ,decode(board_abim.description, null,' ','X') ysnABIMBoard
   ,decode(board_abp.description, null,' ','X') ysnABPBoard
   ,decode(board_abr.description, null,' ','X') ysnABRBoard
   ,decode(board_aobem.description, null,' ','X') ysnAOBEMBoard
   ,decode(board_aobfp.description, null,' ','X') ysnAOBFPBoard
   ,decode(board_aobim.description, null,' ','X') ysnAOBIMBAoard
   ,decode(board_aobr.description, null,' ','X') ysnAOBRBoard
   ,decode(board_other.description, null,' ','X') ysnOtherBoard
   from phy_boards pb, boards b, physicians p
  where p.phy_id = pb.phy_id
and pb.board_id = b.board_id
and (pb.expiration_date = sysdate or
 pb.expiration_date is null)
and b.description like 'AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF PHYSICIAN SPECIALIST%'
union
select board_other.description strBrdNameOtherTHQuest
   ,decode(board_aaps.description, null,' ','X') ysnAAPSBoard
   ,decode(board_aba.description, null,' ','X') ysnABABoard
   ,decode(board_abem.description, null,' ','X') ysnABEMBoard
   ,decode(board_abfp.description, null,' ','X') ysnABFPoard
   ,decode(board_abim.description, null,' ','X') ysnABIMBoard
   ,decode(board_abp.description, null,' ','X') ysnABPBoard
   ,decode(board_abr.description, null,' ','X') ysnABRBoard
   ,decode(board_aobem.description, null,' ','X') ysnAOBEMBoard
   ,decode(board_aobfp.description, null,' ','X') ysnAOBFPBoard
   ,decode(board_aobim.description, null,' ','X') ysnAOBIMBAoard
   ,decode(board_aobr.description, null,' ','X') ysnAOBRBoard
   ,decode(board_other.description, null,' ','X') ysnOtherBoard
   from phy_boards pb, boards b, physicians p
  where p.phy_id = pb.phy_id
and pb.board_id = b.board_id
and (pb.expiration_date = sysdate or
 pb.expiration_date is null)
and b.description like 'AMERICAN BOARD OF ANESTHESIOLOGY%'
etc.
/

Does this make sense?

Hope this helps.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified 

Experiences with global temp tables

2002-12-04 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All,

Oracle 8.1.6, NT 4.0, Forms/Reports 6i,

Has anyone had any trouble using global temp tables in above environment or
elsewhere where it cause Oracle to complete lock up. Only way
out was to kill oracle.exe...not a good thing. I have found some postings
on MetaLink that may be related supposely fixed in 9i.
Comments please!

Thanks
Rick


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ORA-2083 DATABASE name has illegal character '-'

2002-12-03 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi,

Oracle 8.1.6.0.0 NT 4.0

I have the following logon trigger.  It works fine as long I insert into
local table. If I try to insert into a table across a database link the
record get inserted but upon exiting the app whether it is
sqlplus,forms,etc I get ora-2083.  I think it is probably a bug since I
have exact same environment and it works Ok. It fails
on 3 other identical environments.  Anyone heard of any possible bugs using
database link in logon trigger?  I search metalink and google but
no such reported error.


DROP PUBLIC DATABASE LINK utilities_a12345_dblink;
CREATE PUBLIC DATABASE LINK utilities_a12345_dblink CONNECT TO utilities
IDENTIFIED BY 123x456x USING 'a123456';

GRANT SELECT ON v_$session TO PUBLIC;
GRANT SELECT ON v_$instance TO PUBLIC;
DROP TRIGGER login_capture;
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER login_capture AFTER LOGON ON DATABASE
DECLARE
  CURSOR temp_rec IS
SELECT user AS user_name,
   NVL(UPPER(SUBSTR(osuser,1,30)),'SERVER') AS os_user_name,
   RTRIM(NVL(SUBSTR(machine,instr(machine,'\') +1,12),'SERVER'),CHR(0))
AS machine_name,
   sid AS session_id,
   serial# AS serial_no,
   SYSDATE AS logon_time,
   SYS_CONTEXT('userenv','ip_address') AS ip_address,
   NVL(SUBSTR(program,1,64),'INTERNAL') AS program_name,
   i.instance_name AS instance_name,
   i.host_name AS host_name,
   i.version AS version
FROM v$session s,v$instance i
WHERE s.username = user
AND   s.logon_time = (SELECT MAX(x.logon_time)
  FROM v$session x
  WHERE x.username = user);
BEGIN
FOR rec IN temp_rec LOOP
INSERT INTO login_history@utilities_itport02_dblink
 (user_name,
  os_user_name,
  machine_name,
  session_id,
  serial_no,
  logon_time,
  ip_address,
  program_name,
  instance_name,
  host_name,
  version)
VALUES (rec.user_name,
  rec.os_user_name,
  rec.machine_name,
  rec.session_id,
  rec.serial_no,
  rec.logon_time,
  rec.ip_address,
  rec.program_name,
  rec.instance_name,
  rec.host_name,
  rec.version);
END LOOP;
EXCEPTION
 WHEN OTHERS THEN
   NULL;
END;
/
ALTER TRIGGER login_capture ENABLE;


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Re: which bind variable value causes ora-1722

2002-12-03 Thread Rick_Cale

It looks like that is bind value 4(gl_id) = 0.
How did you determine it is 6.55802?
I certainly do not how to read this trace but looks like it is define
correctly

:element_id,   bind 0
:fixed_operand,bind 1
:flags,bind 2
:free_quantity,bind 3
:gl_id,bind 4  value 0
:scaled_operand,   bind 5  value 6.55802
:rec_id,
:obj_id0

Rick



   
 
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Mike,

It is the value in the :gl_id string, which is 6.55802.
The column GL_ID is defined as an integer of 38 digits (i.e.
NUMBER(38) instead of NUMBER), so there is no room for
digits to the right of the decimal...

Hope this helps...

-Tim

 Hi, all,

 My developer continually got ora-1722 when he was
 installing a new billing system. I used 10046 event to get
 trace file, but i could not figure out which bind variable
 value causes the error, here is the part of trace:
 PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=229 dep=0 uid=62 oct=2 lid=62
 tim=807252370 hv=4084410285 ad='9f31e880'
 insert into fold_bal_impacts_t ( element_id,
 fixed_operand, flags, free_quantity, gl_id,
 scaled_operand, rec_id, obj_id0 ) values ( :element_id,
 :fixed_operand, :flags, :free_quantity, :gl_id,
 :scaled_operand, :rec_id, :obj_id0 ) END OF STMT
 PARSE
 #1:c=0,e=1,p=0,cr=1,cu=0,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=0,tim=80725237
 0 BINDS #1:
  bind 0: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=0 size=224 offset=0
bfp=018bacd0 bln=22 avl=03 flg=05
value=250
  bind 1: dty=1 mxl=32(01) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=24
bfp=018bace8 bln=32 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 2: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=0 size=0 offset=56
bfp=018bad08 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 3: dty=1 mxl=32(01) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=80
bfp=018bad20 bln=32 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 4: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=0 size=0 offset=112
bfp=018bad40 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 5: dty=1 mxl=32(07) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=136
bfp=018bad58 bln=32 avl=07 flg=01
value=6.55802
  bind 6: dty=2 mxl=22(22) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=0 size=0 offset=168
bfp=018bad78 bln=22 avl=01 flg=01
value=0
  bind 7: dty=1 mxl=32(05) mal=00 scl=00 pre=00 oacflg=01
 oacfl2=10 size=0 offset=192
bfp=018bad90 bln=32 avl=05 flg=01
value=10382
 EXEC
 #1:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=2,mis=0,r=0,dep=0,og=3,tim=80725237
 0 ERROR #1:err=1722 tim=807252370


 And here is the table:

 SQLdesc fold_bal_impacts_t
  NameNull?Type
  --- 
 
  OBJ_ID0  NUMBER(38)
  REC_ID   NUMBER(38)
  ELEMENT_ID   NUMBER(38)
  FIXED_OPERANDNUMBER
  FLAGSNUMBER(38)
  FREE_QUANTITYNUMBER
  GL_IDNUMBER(38)
  SCALED_OPERAND   NUMBER

 And there is no any constraints on this table.

 Please help, thanks.

 Mike

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RE: ORA-2083 DATABASE name has illegal character '-'

2002-12-03 Thread Rick_Cale

Yes I have taken the insert statement out of the logon trigger and it works
fine.  I think there may be a possible bug
with logon trigger using database links.




   
  
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Rick - Have you tested the link itself?

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Hi,

Oracle 8.1.6.0.0 NT 4.0

I have the following logon trigger.  It works fine as long I insert into
local table. If I try to insert into a table across a database link the
record get inserted but upon exiting the app whether it is
sqlplus,forms,etc I get ora-2083.  I think it is probably a bug since I
have exact same environment and it works Ok. It fails
on 3 other identical environments.  Anyone heard of any possible bugs using
database link in logon trigger?  I search metalink and google but
no such reported error.


DROP PUBLIC DATABASE LINK utilities_a12345_dblink;
CREATE PUBLIC DATABASE LINK utilities_a12345_dblink CONNECT TO utilities
IDENTIFIED BY 123x456x USING 'a123456';

GRANT SELECT ON v_$session TO PUBLIC;
GRANT SELECT ON v_$instance TO PUBLIC;
DROP TRIGGER login_capture;
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER login_capture AFTER LOGON ON DATABASE
DECLARE
  CURSOR temp_rec IS
SELECT user AS user_name,
   NVL(UPPER(SUBSTR(osuser,1,30)),'SERVER') AS os_user_name,
   RTRIM(NVL(SUBSTR(machine,instr(machine,'\') +1,12),'SERVER'),CHR(0))
AS machine_name,
   sid AS session_id,
   serial# AS serial_no,
   SYSDATE AS logon_time,
   SYS_CONTEXT('userenv','ip_address') AS ip_address,
   NVL(SUBSTR(program,1,64),'INTERNAL') AS program_name,
   i.instance_name AS instance_name,
   i.host_name AS host_name,
   i.version AS version
FROM v$session s,v$instance i
WHERE s.username = user
AND   s.logon_time = (SELECT MAX(x.logon_time)
  FROM v$session x
  WHERE x.username = user);
BEGIN
FOR rec IN temp_rec LOOP
INSERT INTO login_history@utilities_itport02_dblink
 (user_name,
  os_user_name,
  machine_name,
  session_id,
  serial_no,
  logon_time,
  ip_address,
  program_name,
  instance_name,
  host_name,
  version)
VALUES (rec.user_name,
  rec.os_user_name,
  rec.machine_name,
  rec.session_id,
  rec.serial_no,
  rec.logon_time,
  rec.ip_address,
  rec.program_name,
  rec.instance_name,
  rec.host_name,
  rec.version);
END LOOP;
EXCEPTION
 WHEN OTHERS THEN
   NULL;
END;
/
ALTER TRIGGER login_capture ENABLE;


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2002-12-03 Thread Rick_Cale

I would recommend a restore because you are going to backup for applying a
patch anyway RIGHT?  Logminer would do nothing as far as the OS files
getting overwritten by applying the patch.

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Gurus,

I was just given a project to maintain a Computerized Maintenance
Management System.  When I asked the companies support staff how to roll
back patches in the backend Oracle Database (Ver. 8174), they said that
there was no way to do this.  I'm guessing I could use logminer just incase

a patch doesn't work.  Would this be a good solution, or are there other
(better) ways of safeguarding myself when it comes to patching?  Obviously,

I will be applying the patches to a test instance first, but I don't want
to have to go back to restore from a backup if the patch causes unexpected
issues.

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ora-2083,ora-1256 Urgent

2002-11-22 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All,

I have a down production system on Win NT4,Oracle 8.1.6.
I just started getting ora-2083 database name has illegal character '-'.
When I try to connect via svrmgrl after setting oracle_sid I get tns-12560
tns protocol adapter error.

The other 2 instances work fine.  Nothing on MetaLink has been helpful
thusfar.

Any ideas on how to resolve.

Thanks
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tns-12500 unable to start dedicated server process.

2002-11-22 Thread Rick_Cale
I have 3 instances on Oracle 8.1.6,Nt 4.  They are all started but on one
instance I connect via the listener.  The only connection is at
the server not using service name.  I have the usual plenty of
memory,swap,etc.  It has been working fine until today.  I even stopped the
other 2 instances just to give more memory but still fails.  The
listener.ora has not changed. I have rebooted the server multiple times.
Oracle gives me the same old answer increase processes parameter,add more
memory,add more swap file,etc.

Anyone have any fresh ideas on how to resolve.

Thanks
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Re: How to make ORACLE Developer 6i understand ORACLE 8i client?

2002-11-19 Thread Rick_Cale

The developer 6i should have the net8 to install so you can connect to
8.0.5

Rick


   
 
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opinions on SAN devices for Oracle

2002-11-19 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All,

We are considering the following 3 SAN storage devices.  If anyone can
share any info on any I would appreciate it.
They all have 2gig fibre channel.

Hitachi 9200
EMC CX400
HP EVA 2c2d

Thanks
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Re: Partitioning

2002-11-19 Thread Rick_Cale

Is there a single column/value that you could do LIST partitioning on
instead of range or hash?

Rick



   
   
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We have a table with around 80 million rows. The table has been partitioned
by hash as there is no clear way of partitioning depending on range etc..
The data is very unevenly distributed in these partitions. Some of them
even
have 3 times the number of rows as compared to the other partitions.
This application is being ported from Informix to Oracle (9i R2). In
informix the dba's had partitioned the table based on a function . He was
taking the mod of the number ( dividing by 10 ) . The values were then
placed in either of the 10 partitions  ranging from 0 - 9. This really gave
us very good distribution of data .Can we achieve something similar in 9i
with list partitioning.


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RE: New development in Cobol or PL/SQL - please help

2002-11-18 Thread Rick_Cale

Babette,

If they are a Cobol shop then there is nothing wrong with using Pro*Cobol.
I disagree with your statement about using PL/SQL for
the business logic. I personally think you should put as much of that in
the database.

Rick



   

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Babette,

The decision really comes down to the organization.  If they see themselves
as *never* leaving the Cobol arena, and they have an ample supply of Cobol
programmers, then they should stay with it.

What you could do is to make friends with the applications people, and show
them how PL/SQL works.  What you will find is that they will take to PL/SQL
like a fish to water.  And pretty soon, more and more PL/SQL packages will
be written that are simply called by the Cobol programs.  Cobol would then
be a simple entry point to the database - able to interface nicely with the
operating system (reading and writing flat files, producing reports and
forms), while the majority of the logic may be written in PL/SQL.

Maybe, just maybe, the person making the decision see's no benefit to using
PL/SQL.  And given your local labor market, maybe he's right!

Tom Mercadante
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Khedr, Waleed wrote:

 Cobol! Again!:(

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 I just found out today that we have a major development initiative that
is
 starting and they are planning on using Pro*Cobol to develop the
 application. (my head is still shaking in disbelief!!!)

 So we will have a Java front-end, invoking MQ series that will go across
to
 the mainframe for MQ series to invoke Pro*Cobol programs that will then
do
 the processing (accessing data and doing calculations) and then return
data.

 If anyone has been in this or a similar situation, please help.
 I need some really good arguments as to why we should put the business
logic
 into PL/SQL instead of Pro*Cobol.

 I understand the reason we are using Oracle is that the director has 15
 years experience with it and loves it.  Aaargh!!!

 thanks
 Babette


May I play the devil's advocate? Even if Pro*Cobol seems to be a weird
choice, there may be a case for not coding the logic in PL/SQL :
database portability. I have heard recently of a very, very, very big
company dumping Oracle in favour of DB2. Reason ? Cost. I guess that in
such a case, porting a Pro*Cobol program is easier than PL/SQL.

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Re: set arraysize in Pro*C

2002-11-18 Thread Rick_Cale

I have not done it for a while but look in the precompiler options. There
is an option to increase.

Rick



   
   
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Dear List-Members,

Some of the batch queries can be improved by increasing the arraysize to
1000 ( the default in SQL*Plus is 15);  I would like to find out the
equivalent of this in Pro*C programs.

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RE: When will Oracle 10i be out?

2002-11-07 Thread Rick_Cale

Actually what I have heard is that nothing has been published externally.
Oracle recommends to contact sales rep on info concerning
future releases

Rick


   
  
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Differences between Oracle 9.2.0 EE and SE

2002-11-06 Thread Rick_Cale
I have given up on trying to find document detailing differences between
Oracle 9i (9.2.0) EE and SE.
Can someone provide a link,etc for this?

Thanks
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RE: OCP Exams - What to study out of?

2002-11-05 Thread Rick_Cale

The Cloverleaf product I know is from Quovadx.  One of its usages it
provides an interface between Healthcare systems and Oracle(many  other
DBMS).  For ex. we use to interface with hospitals sending data in standard
HL7 format and Cloverleaf interprets
HL7 format and data is loaded directly into Oracle for further processing.

See http://www.quovadx.com/ for more info

Rick




   

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Guys, anyone know about an application called Cloverleaf?  Basically, my
organization is pursuing using Cloverleaf as the data integration sole
application of choice.  To me Unix/SQL*Loader and native tools for the
various RDBMS usually are more straightforward and provide simplication and
less proprietary coding and it is easier for an organization to find others
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Denham,
I have just passed my 8i upgrade exam and added some notes to a page about
getting OCP certification.
It can be accessed on http://www.hcresources.co.uk/ocp.htm
http://www.hcresources.co.uk/ocp.htm

Hope you find it interesting

John


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Hello Everyone,


1. I have now made the humungous decision to start studying and to write
the
OCP exams.
2. Do I study out of the Oracle Manuals?
3. I do have the Sybex Study Guides, would studying these be all that is
needed?
4. Or do the questions come out of the Course material ( Which I have not
attended ).
5. I do have some of the Oreilly Insect Books - would these be any help?


Any views, opinions etc appreciated.
Regards
Denham Eva
Oracle DBA
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to
understand the simplicity.
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Data modeling question

2002-10-30 Thread Rick_Cale
I was reading one of the papers on the quest website about data modeling.
An example was presented and I did not believe the
results so I tried it out. Of course the writer ( Phd) was correct.

Does anyone know why does not enforce RI constraint if any of the foreign
key colums are NULL.  I took it literally that if I insert any
record in table_2 that a corresponding record must be in the
parent(table_1). Apparently this is not so.
Someone please explain.

Thanks
Rick

drop table table_2;
drop table table_1;

create table table_1 (
  a number not null,
  b number not null,
  c number,
 constraint table_1_pk primary key (a,b));


create table table_2 (
a number,
b number,
d number not null,
e number not null,
f number,
constraint pk_table_2 primary key (d,e),
constraint fk_table_2_reference_table_1 foreign key (a,b)
references table_1 (a,b))
/

insert into table_2 values(1,NULL,3,4,5);

1 row processed.


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Re: Data modeling question

2002-10-30 Thread Rick_Cale

Jared,

Yeah, It may be just a design issue but not quite sure.

I was referencing from a document Data Modeling: It's Really All About the
Relationships by Dr. Bert Scalzo of Quest Software.
Data modeling is part of the conceptual design phase. When speaking of the
E-R methodology, the data model produces 1. E-R diagram which represents
the data structures in some type of graphical form.
The second component is the data document which details the data objects,
relationships, and database rules. Here is where I think it could be argued
both a modeling/design issue.  I certainly see some merit in your
reasoning. I agree the use of surrogate keys
would prevent this. I do not know why this was not mentioned by the author.

Rick




   
   
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Rick,

This doesn't actually have anything to do with data modeling,
but rather, database design.

The FK can't be enforced on a multipart key if one of the columns
is null, obviously.  At least, I *think* it's obvious.

What happen when you try to update column b in table 2 with
a valid value?

with and invalid value?

There's a good case here for using surrogate keys, as always.

That way, invalid values cannot be put in an FK column, since there
is only one column needed to reference the foreign PK.

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I was reading one of the papers on the quest website about data modeling.
An example was presented and I did not believe the
results so I tried it out. Of course the writer ( Phd) was correct.

Does anyone know why does not enforce RI constraint if any of the foreign
key colums are NULL.  I took it literally that if I insert any
record in table_2 that a corresponding record must be in the
parent(table_1). Apparently this is not so.
Someone please explain.

Thanks
Rick

drop table table_2;
drop table table_1;

create table table_1 (
  a number not null,
  b number not null,
  c number,
 constraint table_1_pk primary key (a,b));


create table table_2 (
a number,
b number,
d number not null,
e number not null,
f number,
constraint pk_table_2 primary key (d,e),
constraint fk_table_2_reference_table_1 foreign key (a,b)
references table_1 (a,b))
/

insert into table_2 values(1,NULL,3,4,5);

1 row processed.


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Re: [Q] what kind of documents shoud contractor provide to me before

2002-10-29 Thread Rick_Cale

I suspect the contractor will only provide the documents all parties agreed
to be delivered at completion.
Deliverables are part of the contract and require a considerable amount of
effort.  If your company did not
account for this my guess is to document it in your lessons learned.





   
   
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I agree with the others...

Asking a contractor for a pile of documentation at the end of the project
may or may not be well accepted...  If he's paid by the hour he may not
mind, if it was fixed price then he may develop a hearing problem.

Having said that...  If you do have the luxury of naming documents then I
would suggest a capacity plan that includes both initial sizing and growth
estimates broken down to a good level of detail.  It amazing how often
people don't even consider this when building an application with a tiny
amount of test data.

hth,
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The list of documents should have been established
before the contract was signed.
A professionnal contractor would have told you that.

The contractor must follow your methodology and give
you the same documents as your internal IT teams.

On the DBA side, you should expect :
database architecture, logical data model, physical
data model, naming convention, backup and recovery
guide, security guide, a benchmarking document (if
some benchmarking was done).


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Re: Adhoc queries and limiting the amount of records queried...

2002-10-29 Thread Rick_Cale

You could implement FGAC or create views that only contains necessary
records.

Rick



   
   
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I just wanted to ping the list to see what other people have done to
control or constrain adhoc query users???


We have a group that is struggling with the adhoc query piece that's in
production.  Some of the users end up firing off insane queries.  The group
is trying to find a way to limit the amount of records queried for, so that
a wild query doesn't hose the database.


Appending a ROWNUM to the WHERE clause is one idea.  Using USER PROFILEs is
another.  Any other thoughts??


Dare I ask?this custom app also runs on SQL Server, so SQL Server ideas
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Re: BUG 2632931 on 9.2.0.2

2002-10-28 Thread Rick_Cale
   
 
   native_threads process  
 
   associated with 9.2.0 OEM   
 
   OMS is leaking memory.  
 
   
 
   
 
   Process  starts out about 8 
 
   MB and keeps growing. Up to 
 
   28.93 MB after less 
 
   
 
   
 
   than 1 hour.
 
   
 




Workaround: None



   

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Hey all,

Looking at doc 189908.1 on MetaLink (it's been much better lately, so no
MetaClink for now), I see that patches for 9.2.0.2 on all platforms have
an alert for BUG 2632931.  Of course, I don't have access to info on that
bug.

Anyone?  As an alert I would expect something serious.  Then again, I
would expect to be able to view serious issues.

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RE: Suggestions solicited - Change Column Datatype from Number to

2002-10-25 Thread Rick_Cale

The user stated they were using 8.1.7.1 :)


   
   
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9i -- dbms_redefinition

should do it for you :)


--- DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah, well the developers are always pi$$ed about something anyway.
 ;-)

 Seriously, good point, I've been spoiled, because most of my
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 have kept the RI in the application as was being discussed earlier.
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 That's a good thought, and it works if you don't have grants,
 constraints or dependencies on the original table.

 If you drop table1, you lose them all

 Rachel

 --- DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Deepak, If there are many columns on these tables, your method may
 be
  best.
  However, this will generate a lot of redo. You can usually
 accomplish
  this
  with a CTAS nologging, which won't generate redo. If you really
 don't
  want
  to change the location, you can:
  create table temp as select * from table1 nologging
  drop table table1
  create table table1 (column, column . . . ) as select * from
 temp
  nologging
  drop table temp
 
 
 
 
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  We have a need to change the datatype of several columns in a table
  from
  number to varchar2. Most of the rows have data in these columns
 hence
  a
  direct 'alter table ...' will not work.
 
  We plan to create a temp table, move the data from these colums to
  that
  table, modify the column datatype from number to varchar2 and then
  update
  the colums with the data that was moved to the temp table.
 
  Any suggestions/comments or a better way to do this ? Oh, and we
 are
  on
  8.1.7.1
 
  thanx
  deepak
 
 
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RE: Suggestions solicited - Change Column Datatype from Number to

2002-10-25 Thread Rick_Cale

Ooops!!!  I missed where the thread changed from 8i to 9ig



   
   
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 --- DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yeah, well the developers are always pi$$ed about something anyway.
  ;-)
 
  Seriously, good point, I've been spoiled, because most of my
  applications
  have kept the RI in the application as was being discussed earlier.
  Now they
  are switching to Java and in future projects will be implementing
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  in
  Oracle, so I'll have to be more careful about that.
 
  Dennis Williams
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  Lifetouch, Inc.
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  Dennis,
 
  That's a good thought, and it works if you don't have grants,
  constraints or dependencies on the original table.
 
  If you drop table1, you lose them all
 
  Rachel
 
  --- DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Deepak, If there are many columns on these tables, your method
 may
  be
   best.
   However, this will generate a lot of redo. You can usually
  accomplish
   this
   with a CTAS nologging, which won't generate redo. If you really
  don't
   want
   to change the location, you can:
   create table temp as select * from table1 nologging
   drop table table1
   create table table1 (column, column . . . ) as select * from
  temp
   nologging
   drop table temp
  
  
  
  
   Dennis Williams
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   -Original Message-
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   We have a need to change the datatype of several columns in a
 table
   from
   number to varchar2. Most of the rows have data in these columns
  hence
   a
   direct 'alter table ...' will not work.
  
   We plan to create a temp table, move the data from these colums
 to
   that
   table, modify the column datatype from number to varchar2 and
 then
   update
   the colums with the data that was moved to the temp table.
  
   Any suggestions/comments or a better way to do this ? Oh, and we
  are
   on
   8.1.7.1
  
   thanx
   deepak
  
  
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