On Leave : 03-Dec to 17-Dec

2003-12-03 Thread hemantchitale

Thank you for your email.

I am sorry that I am not able to respond to you immediately as I am
currently away.

I am on Leave and out of Singapore 03-Dec to 17-Dec.
Please resend Database action requests to my colleague Renga (Email :
MUTHUKUMARASAMY Renga/IT/CHRT/ST Group, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Intermedia Indexing

2002-04-25 Thread hemantchitale

Hi,
We have an Oracle iFS installation and have enabled Intermedia.

Some documents fail indexing with Status 1 or Status 2 errors.
The documents are PDF (pdf 1.3), Excel, World and HTM documents.

I do have a TAR open with Support.  Just would like to know from
the field  how successful is Intermedia in indexing documents ?
Are there any gotchas ?

Oracle8i 8.1.7.3 on Solaris for iFS9.0.1

Hemant K Chitale
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Experiences with 9iRAC (upgrading from 8.1.5OPS on Tru64)

2002-04-10 Thread hemantchitale


We are considering an upgrade from 8.1.5OPS on Tru64 to 9iRAC  for
a mission-critical server  in the next few months.
I would like to know about any happy or painful experiences and
if there are customers whom we can talk to directly.


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Re: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-09 Thread hemantchitale

Well, yes !  When installing Oracle, he needs to run root.sh or
orainstRoot.sh
as root !

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The DBA needs root privileges on the server

This is one of my interview questions.

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Re: Off topic: Need ideas for 'Take your child to work' day 4/25

2002-04-04 Thread hemantchitale


Point-and-Click GUI tools (like OEM) would be attractive but dangerous.
How about showing  them OEM on a Test Server (and ensure that OEM CANNOT
connect
to any other database) ?  Show them the Tablespace Layout and draw an
analogy
with their cupboards/shelves at home.  Show them the Instance Startup and
Shutdown
traffic signal.

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Our office is doing 'Take your child to work' day and the plan is for an
older child to shadow me for a little while as we do some simple Oracle dba
or development work.

I'd really like to make this meaningful by having the child do a task
that's
simpler (than optimizing all our procedures) but realistic (instead of
being
relegated to the lunchroom to watch tv) with me for an hour or so.

Has anyone ever done this?  I'd appreciate any lessons learned or
suggestions.

Thanks!

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RE: Oracle Step-by-Step Guide feedback

2002-04-03 Thread hemantchitale

To quote Alan Paller in his email which included the document  :

Thanks for your note.

The attached file has the problem set from the first draft of SANS new
publication, Securing Oracle:
Step by Step.  If you have expertise in Oracle security and apply it to
provide substantive feedback on
the problem set, we'll include you in the next round that finalizes the
actions that need to be taken to
eliminate, as much as possible, the problems.  The feedback deadline is the
29th of March.

Send your comments here (the SANS Research Office at [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

And thank you!

Alan

Alan Paller
Director of Research
The SANS Institute
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My reading would be that feedback from experts was welcome.  It doesn't say
that
feedback was mandatory.

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List,

SANS is a reputed non-profit organization dedicated to Security issues and
I
think Alan Paller is their director. They have done excellent work related
to Computer Security and awareness over the last 6 years that I have known
them. Understandably, they are senstive about dishing out security-related
material to someone who agreed to provide feedback but didn't... I do
remember that they requested that only those who agreed to provide feedback
participate in the program. I didn't participate because I didn't have
time,
so I am not in the know about what was asked. I would re-read the terms on
which they sent out the note.

John Kanagaraj

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 Anyone else get an email like this that sounded kinda threatening?

  -Original Message-
  From:   SANS Research Office [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Friday, March 29, 2002 12:05 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Oracle Step-by-Step Guide feedback
 
  This is a note to the 167 people who promised to provide
 feedback on the
  Oracle problem list.  First, great thanks to all who have sent
  feedback. I have read most of the response.  They reflect real
  expertise and thoughtfulness.
 
  This project has taken on more meaning because the
 specifications of a
  safe Oracle installation we are producing are now being
 discussed as
  criteria in Oracle procurements at multiple federal agencies.
  In other words, we need to do it right the first time.  So
 we especially
  appreciate teh feedback.
 
  If you provided substantive feedback on the problem set
 draft, we will
  also send you the actual draft of the problems and
 solutions.  Others
  will be able to purchase the document later when it is
 published after
  several rounds of review.  We're thinking about a special
 program for the
  people who made us go to the trouble of sending the draft
 and then did not
  provide feedback.  Because of the holiday weekend, we'll extend the
  feedback deadline to Thursday April 4.
 
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Re: FW: Oracle Step-by-Step Guide feedback

2002-04-02 Thread hemantchitale

Yup.
I particularly dislike the
... We're thinking about a special program for the
 people who made us go to the trouble of sending the draft and then did not
 provide feedback. 

What  special program ?  Compulsory Military Service ?
There really wasn't anything significant in the version 0.3 draft.


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Anyone else get an email like this that sounded kinda threatening?

 -Original Message-
 From: SANS Research Office [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 12:05 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:   Oracle Step-by-Step Guide feedback

 This is a note to the 167 people who promised to provide feedback on the
 Oracle problem list.  First, great thanks to all who have sent
 feedback. I have read most of the response.  They reflect real
 expertise and thoughtfulness.

 This project has taken on more meaning because the specifications of a
 safe Oracle installation we are producing are now being discussed as
 criteria in Oracle procurements at multiple federal agencies.
 In other words, we need to do it right the first time.  So we especially
 appreciate teh feedback.

 If you provided substantive feedback on the problem set draft, we will
 also send you the actual draft of the problems and solutions.  Others
 will be able to purchase the document later when it is published after
 several rounds of review.  We're thinking about a special program for the
 people who made us go to the trouble of sending the draft and then did
not
 provide feedback.  Because of the holiday weekend, we'll extend the
 feedback deadline to Thursday April 4.

 Alan
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Re: Cronjob misbehaving

2002-03-22 Thread hemantchitale

Your CRON script should also define the ORACLE_HOME, ORACLE_SID and PATH.

Why do you need a CRON job to recompile database objects every day ?  Why
are the being invalidated
every day ?

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Hi all,
Thanx for all the good work U R doing for Oracle.
I have a misbehaving cronjob

-Cron Entry
0 5 * * * /usr/scripts/recompile.sh  /ops/scripts/recompile.log 21


-recompile.sh
#!/bin/ksh

## Program name : recompile.sh
## Purpose  : Recompile Invalid Database Objects for specified Shema in
FLAG
## Author   : C.S Waibale Simon
## Date written : 2002-03-19

#for i in FLAGPASS CALLSPASS FLAGPASS CH1PASS CH2PASS CH3PASS ; do
#j:=1
#$i=${i:-$(crypt flag  passwds |awk '{print $j}')
#done

SQLPLUS=/ops/product/817/bin/sqlplus
#Do not export the password variables !
FLAGPASS=${FLAGPASS:-$(crypt flag  /usr/scripts/passwds |awk '{print
$1}')}
CALLS_PASS=${CALLS_PASS:-$(crypt flag  /usr/scripts/passwds |awk '{print
$2}')}
WHPASS=${WHPASS:-$(crypt flag  /usr/scripts/passwds |awk '{print $3}')}
echo Recompiling Invalid Database Objects in the FLAG instance
#This can be sustitued with generic code
$SQLPLUS flag_calls/$[EMAIL PROTECTED] @/ops/rom/recompile.sql
$SQLPLUS flag/$[EMAIL PROTECTED] @/ops/rom/recompile.sql
$SQLPLUS flag_wh/$[EMAIL PROTECTED] @/ops/rom/recompile.sql

-recompile.log
Recompiling Invalid Database Objects in the FLAG instance
Message file sp1lang.msb not found
Error 6 initializing SQL*Plus
Message file sp1lang.msb not found
Error 6 initializing SQL*Plus
Message file sp1lang.msb not found
Error 6 initializing SQL*Plus


What could be broken ??
The script runs correctly from comand prompt.

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Re: iFS - storing XML via Windows Explorer

2002-03-22 Thread hemantchitale

Have you tried FTPing the file into iFS ?
There should be a quote parsemodeoff  in FTP.


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Hi,

we have a iFS instance. iFS lets you update an attribute of a file by
copying a proper XML file into a directory and iFS interprets it as a
command. If something is not O.K. with the file, it spits out an error file
into the same directory.

Now my problem is that I would like to store an XML file in an iFS
direcotry
by draging the XML file into the iFS directory in Windows Explorer. The
result is that I get a error file. Does someone know of a way to override
this feature?

TIA,

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RE: iFS - storing XML via Windows Explorer

2002-03-22 Thread hemantchitale

No can do.
Quoting the iFS 1.1.9  [ie the one with 8.1.7]  Setup and Administration
Guide,
Chapter 6, Task 3: Load Files into Oracle iFS :

The Four Ways to Load Files into Oracle iFS
This section discusses the four possible ways of loading documents into
Oracle iFS.
Remember to set the default ACL on your user ID to ensure that loaded files
have
the correct security.
Drag and Drop in the Windows and Web Interfaces
In both theWindows Explorer and the Web interface, you can drag and drop
files
into Oracle iFS. When you load files using either SMB or drag and drop in
the Web
interface, the XML files are parsed by default. If you do not want the XML
files to be
parsed, you must use another protocol to load your files.
Use FTP to Load Files
While running the FTP server, you can use any FTP client to load files into
Oracle
iFS. Using the FTP protocol is the most efficient way to performbulk file
loading.
When you load files using FTP, XML files are parsed by default. You can
turn off the
parsing mode by using a quote command.
Browse and Upload Using the Web Interface
Using the Web, choose Upload by Browse and select the file to upload. You
can
select to parse the file and apply an ACL. This is an efficient tool
because it can be
used from any machine and does not require any client installation except
for a
browser.
Use the Command Line Utilities
You can use the Command Line Utilities to load files into Oracle iFS by
using the
ifsmv command or the ifsput command.When you load files into Oracle iFS
using the Command Line Utilities, XML files are parsed by default. You can
turn off
the parsing mode by using the ifsmode parse off command.


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No, because the user would like to use copy / paste.

Tamas

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There should be a quote parsemodeoff  in FTP.


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Hi,

we have a iFS instance. iFS lets you update an attribute of a file by
copying a proper XML file into a directory and iFS interprets it as a
command. If something is not O.K. with the file, it spits out an error file
into the same directory.

Now my problem is that I would like to store an XML file in an iFS
direcotry
by draging the XML file into the iFS directory in Windows Explorer. The
result is that I get a error file. Does someone know of a way to override
this feature?

TIA,

Tamas Szecsy
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Re: diag.cmd script

2002-03-21 Thread hemantchitale

Patrice,
That you're running diag.cmd and not diag.csh, I assume you are on NT.
What version of iAS and Portal are you using.

I have used diag.csh (on Solaris, iAS 1.0.2.2, Portal 3.0.9) when we had
issues
cloning a portal environment some months ago and had learnt to ignore some
messages.  Could you post the output that you're getting when running the
diag
command ?

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Something strange has happened.

This utility, supplied with iAS to test portals, tells me there may be
something wrong with my portal.

In fact, it can't find the server name for the portal.

Meanwhile we can access the portal no problem from a Web browser.  I logged
a TAR with Oracle to ask them about this little utility that tests
portals...

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Re: ORACLE 9i Database and Oracle9ias application

2002-03-21 Thread hemantchitale

Actually, there are a number of InterOperability patches for
9iAS 1.0.2.2 with the 9iDB.
I'm only running 9iAS 1.0.2.2 against 8.1.7 yet.

BTW, if you check the Certification Matrix on Metalink, do not
select the product Application Server (9iAS) This contains
incomplete certification for 9iAS 9.0.2 on Solaris.
Select Internet Products and then Oracle9i Application Server Enterprise
Edition

Quoting the certification :
Oracle9iAS Rel1 (V1.0.2.2.x) is certified to run against a Oracle9i
Database 9.0.1 (on all supported platforms) in RAC
   configuration.
   9iAS 1.0.2.2 can run against any certified 9.0.1 (9i) backend
database, with exceptions and limitations:
Oracle9iAS Database Cache and Oracle Enterprise Manager
functionality are NOT supported in this
configuration.
In order to run in this configuration, Oracle9iAS Forms
Services users should apply Oracle Forms Patch 5.
Oracle9iAS Portal - Apply patches for bugs1794996 and
1806057. Apply workaround
(07_DICTIONARY_ACCESSIBILITY =true) for bug 1554423
Users connecting from Oracle9iAS v1022 to Oracle9i database
through jdbc thin drivers - Apply patch for bug
1725012 

9iAS Wireless, J2EE (OC4J), iFS, Unified Messaging and eMail Server are,
surpringly, listed seperately in the certification.

Hemant K Chitale
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 If I use oracle as unix loginname for oracle9i database then can I use
same
 unix loginname for Oracle 9iAS or not?

Yes, you can use oracle for both, but will need a way to change
ORACLE_HOME.

FWIW - I don't believe that all pieces of 9iAS are actually certified
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Re: Express Server -- Oracle Financial Analyzer Question

2002-03-21 Thread hemantchitale

Is the OFA instance an Express Server 6.x database ?
Then, it is not an RDBMS issue until 9i when Express server is merged with
the RDBMS.

I haven't worked with Express Server but...
maybe someone who has worked with Express Server can help.

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Hi all,

just a basic question  it was mentioned in a meeting that our OFA
instance gets so much fragmented that it needs to be rebuilt every week. Is
that true with everyone ?? BTW this is on NT (please don't ask me why). Are
there any ways to get around this fragmentation? The DB size seems to
increase because of all the scenarios they run, so when it is rebuilt, the
size goes down considerably. I don't work on that, so I don't know all the
intricate details.

Any ideas are greatly appreciated.
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RE: Oracle CERT Advisory

2002-03-20 Thread hemantchitale

Check http://otn.oracle.com/deploy/security/alerts.htm

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RE: Oracle Gold Support/ iTARs

2002-03-19 Thread hemantchitale

On advantage with the iTAR is that you CAN precisely define your problem --
you
write in the 15 line problem description yourself not some Analyst who
writes a curt
single line description.  You can then keep following up with additonal
details and
questions which certainly get logged as you type them in.

A disavantage is that you can't be sure which Analyst is handling your
call.  With
telephonic support you would get to know the Analysts at your local support
centre
over a period of time  -- now they are virtual analysts.

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Report the rude dude.  However, I have gotten really good response
from using Metalink (also Gold support) for level 1 tars.  The good
thing is, since you are putting it in it gets in correctly.

I actually think Oracle has greatly improved their support.  Are they
perfect?  No, but I do believe they are working on it.  Complaining
to us though will get you no where (other then venting:-)  Complain
to those who can do something about it even if you think they won't.
They may just surprise you someday.

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Anyone else just slightly irritated with the level of customer support
offered for phone callers to Oracle now days? Used to be, that if you
were a gold customer as we are, you could almost count on instant first
line
support. Last week I called and was told that a phone call would
result in at least a one hour delay in an analyst call back, whereas
an iTar (lie tars I call em) will get me about 30 minute response.
The representative was rude and snarly to me at the same time.
Is this how Larry wants to save that second billion, crappy customer
service?

RF

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Re: how to know ,the tables which are accessed via FTS?

2002-03-17 Thread hemantchitale

I've rewritten the query as :
select usr.name oowner, ob.name oname
  from
  (
  select obj
  from x$bh
  where to_number(bitand(flag, power(2,19)))  0
  group by obj
  ) bh,
  obj$ ob,
  user$ usr
  where
  ob.dataobj# = bh.obj
  and ob.owner# = usr.user#
  order by usr.name, ob.name
  /

This query runs successsfully consistently.

I've also given credit to Jonathan in my update on the TAR.  The
Support Analyst might be writing a note on Metalink on the query.

Hemant K Chitale
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Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


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Jonathan,

I just saw your email.  I'll try your suggestions.

To report more on the query crashing 

I had logged a TAR on discovering ORA-7445 errors in my alert.log
[For those who have access to Oracle Internal networks, the TAR# is
2220560.999].
The analyst was of t he opinion was that the trace was similar to
Bug #1571059 with a suggested workaround of event 10933 level 4096.
However, he wanted further investigation by me.
I then found tested different queries and found that this particular
query was causing the ORA-7445 and creating a 33MB user_dump
(of course, this is a busy database -- session dumps would be larger).
The analyst is working on it again with the new trace file.

I've retested my original script against less-busy  (Datawarehouse, Portal,
iFS)
databases running 8.1.7.0.0 on Solaris.
As you've pointed out it could be happening in my Apps instance
because of the in-flux nature of queries on X$BH  [it shouldn't be
because of 8.1.7.0.0 Solaris v 8.1.7.2.1 Tru64].

Coming back to your suggestion, I'll retry the query as you've suggested.

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FTS?









Whilst your query really ought not to crash,
bear in mind that X$ objects are not subject
to any form of normal read consistency, so
you may be hitting some strange side-effect
of in-flux blocks.

You may do better to reduce the run-time
of the query by doing the select and group
by on x$bh only as an inline view, and then
joining to dba_objects - and since you are joining
to x$bh why not join to obj$ ?

Something like:
select
from
(
select obj
from x$bh
where to_number(bitand(flag, power(2,19))) = 1
group by obj
) bh,
obj$ ob
where
ob.dataobj# = bh.obj
;

By restricting the object_type to TABLE
you will be missing index fast full scans,
of course.  And won't you also miss
scans on partitioned objects and
clustered objects.



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|
|
|Oracle8i 8.1.7.2 on Tru64.
|
|I've been using the query :
|SELECT o.owner oowner, o.object_name oname
| FROM dba_objects o,x$bh x
| WHERE x.obj=o.data_object_id
| AND o.object_type='TABLE'
| AND standard.bitand(x.flag,524288)0
| AND o.owner'SYS'
| group by owner, object_name
| order by owner, object_name
|/
|
|This ends in ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel 3 out
of 4
|times
|(but 1 out of 4 times I DO get the list of tables).
|If I remember correctly it used to work in 8.0.5, except that I was
joining
|x.obj against o.object_id.
|
|However, on another 8.1.7.0 on Solaris 8 database I consistently
|get the list of Tables.  The difference is that this database is less
|busy.  The Tru64 database is my Oracle Applications Database.
|
|Any ideas why I get the ORA-3113 on my Oracle Applications Tru64
database ?
|[other than that this is 

Re: how to know ,the tables which are accessed via FTS?

2002-03-13 Thread hemantchitale


Jonathan,

I just saw your email.  I'll try your suggestions.

To report more on the query crashing 

I had logged a TAR on discovering ORA-7445 errors in my alert.log
[For those who have access to Oracle Internal networks, the TAR# is
2220560.999].
The analyst was of t he opinion was that the trace was similar to
Bug #1571059 with a suggested workaround of event 10933 level 4096.
However, he wanted further investigation by me.
I then found tested different queries and found that this particular
query was causing the ORA-7445 and creating a 33MB user_dump
(of course, this is a busy database -- session dumps would be larger).
The analyst is working on it again with the new trace file.

I've retested my original script against less-busy  (Datawarehouse, Portal,
iFS)
databases running 8.1.7.0.0 on Solaris.
As you've pointed out it could be happening in my Apps instance
because of the in-flux nature of queries on X$BH  [it shouldn't be
because of 8.1.7.0.0 Solaris v 8.1.7.2.1 Tru64].

Coming back to your suggestion, I'll retry the query as you've suggested.

Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


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Whilst your query really ought not to crash,
bear in mind that X$ objects are not subject
to any form of normal read consistency, so
you may be hitting some strange side-effect
of in-flux blocks.

You may do better to reduce the run-time
of the query by doing the select and group
by on x$bh only as an inline view, and then
joining to dba_objects - and since you are joining
to x$bh why not join to obj$ ?

Something like:
select
from
(
select obj
from x$bh
where to_number(bitand(flag, power(2,19))) = 1
group by obj
) bh,
obj$ ob
where
ob.dataobj# = bh.obj
;

By restricting the object_type to TABLE
you will be missing index fast full scans,
of course.  And won't you also miss
scans on partitioned objects and
clustered objects.



Jonathan Lewis
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|
|
|Oracle8i 8.1.7.2 on Tru64.
|
|I've been using the query :
|SELECT o.owner oowner, o.object_name oname
| FROM dba_objects o,x$bh x
| WHERE x.obj=o.data_object_id
| AND o.object_type='TABLE'
| AND standard.bitand(x.flag,524288)0
| AND o.owner'SYS'
| group by owner, object_name
| order by owner, object_name
|/
|
|This ends in ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel 3 out
of 4
|times
|(but 1 out of 4 times I DO get the list of tables).
|If I remember correctly it used to work in 8.0.5, except that I was
joining
|x.obj against o.object_id.
|
|However, on another 8.1.7.0 on Solaris 8 database I consistently
|get the list of Tables.  The difference is that this database is less
|busy.  The Tru64 database is my Oracle Applications Database.
|
|Any ideas why I get the ORA-3113 on my Oracle Applications Tru64
database ?
|[other than that this is a really busy database].
|
|Hemant K Chitale
|Principal DBA
|Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd
|


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RE: database clone:

2002-03-11 Thread hemantchitale

On the I have heard that in version 9i, you can, in fact create a standby
database
it it is not possible in the current release of 9i.  This is called
a Logical Standby.  9iRel1 provides only a Physical Standby.  9iRel2
(due in May/June) might provide Logical Standby.
However, of course, this option is not available for Mitchell's requirement
as it would not work against an 8.0.5 source database.

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Mitchell,

I have not been following the thread, but nonetheless, I will attempt to
add
some information.  It is accurate to state that imp/exp is your only option
in 8.0.5 when you are trying to move a database from one platform (AIX) to
another (Solaris).

Other options all up through version 8.1.7 only apply when the platform is
not changing:
e.g. Transportable tablespace
Standby database
or RMAN Hot Backup/Recover from disk or tape.

I have heard that in version 9i, you can, in fact create a standby database
on a different platform because it actually converts the redo logs into SQL
type DML/DDL statements and applies them, but even this is no way to
re-create a 300 Meg database.

Of course, your option of imp/exp would be VERY time and resource
intensive.

HTH,
-Ron-

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 Hi DBAs.

 Thanks all your reply. I am still thinking it is possible to use
 backup file
 or cp files.  It is hard to exp/imp on a large system with 300GB.

 Mitchell


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  What is the best way to clone large oracle database ( 8.0.5, 300g)
from
 aix
  4.3 o  to Sun Soloris (2.8).
  Any idea, articles, experience?
  
  
  thanks in advance.
  
  Mitchell
  
  
  exp from aix, install, create the database and the tablespaces on sun,
  then imp.
 
 
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Re: how to know ,the tables which are accessed via FTS?

2002-03-11 Thread hemantchitale



Oracle8i 8.1.7.2 on Tru64.

I've been using the query :
SELECT o.owner oowner, o.object_name oname
 FROM dba_objects o,x$bh x
 WHERE x.obj=o.data_object_id
 AND o.object_type='TABLE'
 AND standard.bitand(x.flag,524288)0
 AND o.owner'SYS'
 group by owner, object_name
 order by owner, object_name
/

This ends in ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel 3 out of 4
times
(but 1 out of 4 times I DO get the list of tables).
If I remember correctly it used to work in 8.0.5, except that I was joining
x.obj against o.object_id.

However, on another 8.1.7.0 on Solaris 8 database I consistently
get the list of Tables.  The difference is that this database is less
busy.  The Tru64 database is my Oracle Applications Database.

Any ideas why I get the ORA-3113 on my Oracle Applications Tru64 database ?
[other than that this is a really busy database].

Hemant K Chitale
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Gopal, Ganesh, ...

Small correction:
1. v$session_event does not have file#, block# and blocks. They are in
v$session_wait, which may be hard to catch.
2. Absolute best methode. But field name is flag. not class, you can
use bitand(flag,power(2,19)  0 as a condition. When join to
dba_objects(user_objects) one should use field data_object_id, not
object_id. Take care about clusters, as all object in cluster share the
same data_object_id. Anothe (but slower) way is join with
dba_extents(user_extents).
4. This give accurate info to the file level, not segment level.

Alex.

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 Subject: RE: how to know ,the tables which are accessed via FTS?

 Ganesh,

 You can find FTS in the following methods:

 1. THe existence of the 'db file scattered read' in the V$session_event.
 From this we can find the file#, Block# and #of Blocks.
 Using this info we can get the segment name from the dictionary.
 2. ANy block read using Sequential Scan (Full Table Scan)  will be flagged
 as 0x8 in the X$BH.CLASS. So existence of
 i0x8 in X$.BH tells there is an FTS in the buffer cache. So from X$BH
 we can get the object name from the user_object
 by joining X$.BH.OBJ
 3. THen the normal SQL Trace with TKPROF
 4. If the KCFIOPBRKCFIOPYRin the X$KCFIO (exposed as V$FILESTAT as
 PHYSICAL READS and PHYSICAL BLOCK READS)
 then some of the segments in that datafile is read by FTS. (THis may not
 give 100% accurate info)
 5.. Any other thoughts?




 Best Regards,
 K Gopalakrishnan
 Bangalore, INDIA



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  What will that Acheive... this will not give u Tables that have FTS
  Done on them.

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   USE analyze table with compute statistcs
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Hi Gurus  ,

  One little question
how will i get to know what all tables are accessed via full
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any help will be highly appreciated


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Any Asset/License Management Package

2002-03-10 Thread hemantchitale



I am looking for information on an Asset / License Management package
which could be used to keep track of Servers (by OS, Configuration, Vendor,
Maintenance Contract, Downtime logs) and/or Licenses (OS, Database,
Applications,
Support Contract).
The package could be an Off-the-Shelf package, based on Oracle or other
database but must have reporting facilities.


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Re: Oracle Migration 7.3.4.5 to 8.1.6.3

2002-03-07 Thread hemantchitale


Why 8.1.6.3 ?  Go to 8.1.7.2 or 8.1.7.3.  8.1.6 has been desupported.

What is the OS version ?  Solaris 2.5.1 ?

32-bit 8.1.7 is certified on 2.6 and above.
64-bit 8.1.7 is on Solaris 8 (2.8) of course.

That you have a Cluster -- is it OPS or single-instance database which
fails
over to the second node ?

If you use the MIGrate utility, you should have very low downtime.
1.  Install 8.1.7 + Patchset 2 or 3 :  1.5 hours max.  Install into a
seperate ORACLE_HOME.
2.  MIG database  1 hour ?? (depends on the size of the SYSTEM Tablespace,
not the full database)   -- I suggest you use the command-line MIG utility,
I've been
more comfortable with it than ODMA.
3.  Configure init.ora, copy convSID.ora, ALTER DATABASE CONVERT and
catalog and catproc
in 81.7 : 1.5 hours max.
4.  Recompile Invalid Objects :  Depends on how many you have.

Don't waste time installing the JVM into the database -- you are not
currently using it.

You'd have to practice the migrate a couple of times on another server.


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Hi All

We are in the process of migrating our database from 7.3.4.5 to 8.1.6.3.
We are using a Sun Cluster (2 E4000 each with 4x480Mhx processors and 4gb
Ram) for our system which is almost 24x7. This whole operation must be
performed (ideally) within a maximum of 24 hour period (during say a
national holdiday). Our database is approx 100Gb large.

Any suggestions on how to do this operation? Any past experience?

TIA
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Re: Upgrade OS for database 8.1.6

2002-03-06 Thread hemantchitale

Catherine,


Check if the /etc/system file has been configured correctly.
e.g I have the following set on my Solaris 2.8 server :
* settings for Oracle  Hemant, 26-Jun-01
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmax=4294967295
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmin=1
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmni=100
set shmsys:shminfo_shmseg=256
set semsys:seminfo_semmns=2048
set semsys:seminfo_semmni=64
set semsys:seminfo_semmsl=100

You need to reboot the server for these to take effect.

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Hi Gurus,

My test database 8.1.6 resides in Unix machine. We are supposed to upgrade
the Unix OS from 5.6 to 5.8 for our Oracle HRMS V11.5.1.
There are some problems with the OS upgrade and for some reasons, the Unix
administrator cannot restore back the OS. He has tried to install a new
copy
of the OS 5.8 and now I cannot start up my database. The error message is
below

 $ /dg5/app/oracle/testcomn/admin/scripts/addbctl.sh
start

 You are running addbctl.sh version 115.0

 Starting the database TEST ...


 SQL*Plus: Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production on Thu Mar 7
10:14:23 2002

 (c) Copyright 1999 Oracle Corporation.  All rights
reserved.

 Connected to an idle instance.
 ORA-27102: out of memory
 SVR4 Error: 22: Invalid argument
 Disconnected

 addbctl.sh: exiting with status 0


I am thinking of asking him to install a fresh copy of the OS 5.6 ? Any
advice ? Please help. Thanks.

Regds,
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Forms6i (6.0.8 ?) on Motif Mode

2002-03-04 Thread hemantchitale


We have a number of Forms 4.5 environments (against 7.3.4/8.1.6/8.1.7)
where the clients are Unix workstations. Therefore, the Forms they are are
Motif-mode.

We are looking at upgrading to 6i.  Has anyone upgraded to 6i Motif
(ie convert, develop and run in Motif) ?

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RE: Sun Cluster and VCS failover

2002-03-04 Thread hemantchitale


I would think 12 to 15 minutes still too high.  Damagement would generally
specify
a max of 5 minutes.

Have you found out why it takes 12 to 15 minutes ?  Do the File Systems
take so long or
does the Instance Recovery take so long ?  Do you have to put a sleep in
the startup
scripts  [when I setup a failover cluster for Oracle Apps with Oracle Web
Application Server 3.0.2,
I put in a sleep of 30seconds for the Web server -- WAS302 has to have the
physical host-name
hardcoded in the wrb.app file so I maintained two copies of the file and
the startup
script would copy in the correct one, depending on the hostname, as wrb.app
but
sometimes it wouldn't startup immediately ; I had to put a sleep after the
file copy].

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Nick:
On our SunCluster 2-node E4500's with 8 CPU's (Oracle 8.0.5)
it takes us around 12 to 15 minutes.

HTH.
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 If the primary node fails, how long does it take before a user is able to
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Re: SSL and non-SSL requests on same Apache server in 9iAS?

2002-03-04 Thread hemantchitale

Read section 2.2 of Note  123718.1.


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Hi,

I want to host SSL and non-SSL requests on one physical server
running one 9iAS.

After installing 9iAS the httpd.conf file specifies by default
that it is listening on port . Later on in httpd.conf it
has an SSL directive that says it's listening on port 80 and 443.
Does this mean that this one Apache server can service non-SSL
requests on  and SSL requests on 443 at the same time?

There is a document on Metalink(135231.1) that describes how to run two
Apache servers in one 9iAS home. Again what is not clear to me
is whether or not one could be handling SSL and the other non-SSL.

Anyone have any recommendations on how to do this? I may also be asked
to host 40-bit and 128-bit encryption on the same web site. Again any
recommendations?

Thanks.

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RE: Does Oracle 9iAS only run on Apache?

2002-03-04 Thread hemantchitale

Well. you could look at Note 134284.1 on MetaLink.
I've never tried iAS with anything other than Oracle's Apache distribution
so I can't say if this document suffices.
[You could also look at Note 132466.1  on the Oracle Plug-In for IIS to
run Oracle PLSQL applications through IIS. Again, I've not done it].


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What does Hear, hear. mean? Do you have a constructive(note the 1st 3
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The employer uses IIS and does not want to support other servers. If Oracle
9iAS is not supported then this is the end of the question and end of
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Rick,

Why do you ask?  At a former employer, we were being pressured to use a
different
webserver for entirely different reasons.  We eventually concluded that
the ones asking
the question were technically impaired and began ignoring them.

While I believe that you can do this, Oracle won't support your iAS
installation if you do.

It's a fair amount of work to iAS setup and running the way you want
without trying  to give it
a heart transplant in the process.  Doing so will likely also require
regular infusions
anti-rejection drugs ( your time ).

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Will Oracle 9iAS run on other servers other than Apache? If so which ones
and are they supported by Oracle?
Does anyone have any experience running on other servers? success/failure
stories.

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Re: Error in relinking executables after Upgrade Unix OS from 2.6 TO

2002-03-03 Thread hemantchitale

The relink expects to use the linker from /usr/ccs/bin.

/usr/ucb and /usr/ccs/bin are different.

/usr/ccs* contains the SVR4 distribution.
/usr/ucb* contain the  BSD distribution.

In fact, /usr/ucb/ld  [on my machine] is a shell-script which
sets the LD_RUN_PATH and defines /usr/ucblib first,
ie it changes the order of the libraries.

If you have copied /usr/ucb/ld over to /usr/ccs/bin/ld   you will see
that the program is calling itself --- it would be forking multiple
processes
till it runs out of swap space.

You should be using /usr/ccs/bin/ld.  Oracle requires the SVR4 linker.
Ask your Solaris vendor to install it.

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Hi Gurus,

I upgraded my UNIX OS from 2.6 to 5.8 for our HRMS 11I V11.5.1 and now
encountered problem when I relink my executables.

The instructions from Oracle support for Upgrade is
= run the environment file ($ . $APPL_TOP/APPSORA.env) = OK
= relink adadmin using adrelink ($ adrelink.sh force=y ad adadmin) =
ERROR ENCOUNTERED
= use adadmin to relink all executables ($ adadmin-Relink Applications
Programs) = ERROR ENCOUNTERED

1st error encountered  Adrelink: the directory containing the
make
command must be
in your path.
SolutionFor Solaris 2.6, the default directory for ld and make is
in
/usr/ccs/bin. Since the OS has been upgraded to 5.8, the ld program is
only found in /usr/ucb directory and make program in /usr/local/bin
directory.
I've copied the make and ld programs to the directory /usr/ccs/bin.

2nd error encountered  /usr/ccs/bin/ld: cannot fork: no swap space
See error messages above (also recorded in log file) for possible
reasons for the failure. Also, please check that the Unix userid
running adrelink has read, write, and execute permissions
on the directory /dg5/app/oracle/testappl/ad/11.5.0/bin,
and that there is sufficient space remaining on the disk partition
containing your Oracle Applications installation.

I've 1.5GB swap space and I've read,write and execute permission on the
directory /dg5/app/oracle/testappl/ad/11.5.0/bin
My physical memory is $ df -k
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
/dev/dsk/c0t1d0s0 1302231 929196 320946 75% /
/proc 0 0 0 0% /proc
fd 0 0 0 0% /dev/fd
mnttab 0 0 0 0% /etc/mnttab
/dev/dsk/c0t1d0s6 1326439 88963 1184419 7% /var
/dev/dsk/c0t0d0s0 26255015 23017221 2975244 89% /dg1
/dev/dsk/c1t0d0s0 1322803 53282 1216609 5% /opt
/dev/dsk/c1t0d0s1 30122920 3018192 26803499 11% /dg4
/dev/dsk/c1t1d0s0 35292880 15626245 19313707 45% /dg5
/dev/dsk/c1t2d0s0 35292880 24654450 10285502 71% /dg6
/dev/dsk/c1t3d0s0 35292880 19057633 15882319 55% /dg7
swap 1517552 24 1517528 1% /tmp
/dev/dsk/c0t1d0s7 9975 46 8932 1% /export/home

Qn: Has anyone upgraded his/her OS from 2.6 to 5.8 before for HRMS V11.5.1
?
How much swap space is needed for the program to compile
? I am really at my wits' end. Please help. Oracle support has not given me
any solution yet. Thanks.

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OTN Service Network

2002-03-03 Thread hemantchitale



A survey :

How many of you have used the OTN Service Network for Pay Per Incident
Support,
on Oracle Databases and Tools ?  What level of support have you received ?
How
comfortable are you with it ?

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Re: Old Chestnut: Tablespace Fragmentation

2002-02-28 Thread hemantchitale



If you have only 1 Table in that Tablespace and only 1 File on that disk,
even if you had multiple extents, you might expect them to be contiguous.
Then, the only issue would be that the extent size should be a proper
multiple
of db_block_size*db_file_multiblock_read_count (or max_io_size).

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I know this one has been done to death:  use uniform extents to avoid
fragmentation; multiple extents don't hurt (within limits).

But what if:

Data Warehouse, one big table on a single disk, full table (batch) scan, no

concurrent transactions on the database (so no contention for the disk), no

fragmentation at the file system level, initially empty buffer cache
(startup), read-only operation so DBWR isn't doing anything on this
disk.  Basically I want to read one data file from end to end.  Surely it
would make sense to have the disk read moving smoothly from one end of the
disk to the other rather than bouncing about all over the place as it may
do with multiple extents randomly allocated.

Any thoughts?

Thanks
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Re: HP-UX Oracle Install

2002-02-28 Thread hemantchitale

Can you explain the
An old sys admin trick is to put a  file named -i in the directory that
you don't want touched. 

Does this prevent deletions of the files or rebooting or unmounting the
file system ?

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Hi

As long as you don't have issues with having data files mounted remotely ie
you have a pretty robust network between the server this shouldn't be a
problem just clearly mark/document  the directories that you use on the
server that you mount file systems from as sometimes clever sysadmins
delete directories that they cant find owners of files.
One issue that you can have a little problem but it is mostly cosmetic and
that is if you don't use common UID's in Unix. I always did consider
remotely mounting datafiles as not a bright idea but apparently NFS 3
alleviates most of those concerns.
Still you cant help someone rebooting the remote server.

An old sys admin trick is to put a  file named -i in the directory that you
don't want touched.


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Hi,

This may be more of a UNIX question, so please bear with me.

We have a test server that has 1GB free space. We need to test our Oracle
and application upgrade and there are no other servers other than this
test server. Obviously there is not enough space.

The powers above want to use two spare disks that are on our production
system. Unfortunately they are part of a disk array and we can't remove
them
seperately and install them onto the test system. So what they want is to
remotely mount these partitions (which are from the production server) onto
the test system. That way I have more space and should be able to install
Oracle.

Does anyone know if this would cause a problem when installing Oracle? The
production server already has two Oracle installations on seperate
partitions. Could there be a conflict?

I have a feeling there won't be a problem, but I just wanted to make sure.

Thanks

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RE: Problem running a report

2002-02-27 Thread hemantchitale

If the report was creating a large output file on the client (remote) PC,
that would explain
the waits on SQL*Net message from client.  [the client would be SQL*Plus or
Reports
on the PC].  Depending on the network latency, the perceived runtime of the
report
can vary between sites.
Does the report file have to be created on the client PCs ?
Can you run it as a server process, ZIP the output file on the server and
then FTP it
to the clients ?

If the report has to run from the PC, try tuning SQLNet  (SDU, TDU) and the
Buffer size.
If you are using SQL*Plus, just doing a SET TERMOUT OFF with a SPOOL
myoutputfile
will  make a big difference.

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Thanks to everyone who responded. The database is centralized. Yesterday I
PINGed some machines in different offices (and TRACERTed, too) right from
the server, and the response time was under 100 msec. However, some offices
reported it to have run normally. That particular report creates a big file
on C: (local machine) which raises the question if the machine had enough
space on that drive and how fragmented it was... Oh, users
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Are you using remote connections to a centralized database, or does each
office have its own database?

Tracert and netstat commands should help you figure out if its a network
issue.

Regards
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Hi, ladies and gentlemen,
Here is a good one. We have 25 offices nation wide, running similar
reports. At the headquarters the one in consideration takes 12 min to
complete. Any other office (WAN) it gets stuck and takes a few hours if it
completes at all. Here is the output from V$SESSION_WAIT for the session:
  SID   SEQ#  EVENT  P1TEXT P1  P1RAW
P2TEXT P2  P2RAW P3TEXT P3  P3RAW WAIT_TIME
SEC_WT  STATE
-  -  -  --  -
  --  -    --  -  
-  --  -
   82  31384  SQL*Net message from clie  driver id   675562835
28444553  #bytes  1  0001  0  00
0   0  WAITING
After some time:

  SID   SEQ#  EVENT  P1TEXT P1  P1RAW
P2TEXT P2  P2RAW P3TEXT P3  P3RAW WAIT_TIME
SEC_WT  STATE
-  -  -  --  -
  --  -    --  -  
-  --  
   82  33799  SQL*Net message from clie  driver id   675562835
28444553  #bytes  1  0001  0  00
0   0  WAITING

and so on.(SEQ# increases and then resets).

At the headquarters (LAN) it shows the same event after scattered read and
it is done. Could that be a SQL*Net issue between LAN and WAN?
Any ideas are appreciated as always.
TIA,
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Re: ORA-27072

2002-02-25 Thread hemantchitale


Is anybody running a copy command or a backup program which is locking the
file ?

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Hi  abhijit

when i restart the database it goes fine  and again it goes down after
10-12 hours of  working continiously ..
Is this a bug ?? The version  is as given  below .

BANNER

Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
PL/SQL Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
CORE8.1.7.0.0   Production
TNS for 32-bit Windows: Version 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 3.4.1.0.0 - Production


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 I think It's hitting the bug of 8.1.7.2.
 Is the database gets opened normally after it goes down intermittantly ?
 or does it gives the error whilt opening also ?
 What 's the exact verion/release of 8.1.7  ? try applying the latest patch
 .



 Hallas John wrote:
  Have a word with your sysadmin. See if I can find out what/who is
  using that fileAre all datafiles/control files and redo log etc owned
  by the same user (Oracle) and with the same permissionsSeems odd that
  it appears to be random across a number of filesHTH John
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   Hi all.. My database is going down frequently  showing
   this error in alertfile . This  is happening to different
   datafiles and controlfiles.What are the possibilities that cause
   this error ? How can i avoid this error ? oracle 8.1.7 in win2k
   Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\acusis\bdump\acusisCKPT.TRC:
   ORA-00206: error in writing (block 3, # blocks 1) of controlfile

   ORA-00202: controlfile: 'D:\ORADATA\CONTROL01.CTL'
   ORA-27072: skgfdisp: I/O error
   OSD-04008: WriteFile() failure, unable to write to file
   O/S-Error: (OS 33) The process cannot access the file because
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RE: Oracle8i - Oracle9i issue??????

2002-02-23 Thread hemantchitale

Well, yes, I do understand that C# is MS's new-fangled language.

My question C# ? actually meant There already are applications out there
that use C# against an Oracle Database ?  Do they use MS ODBC to connect ?
Could the SQL command not properly ended error be because of the
ODBC drivers ?.

I forgot the reference to windows in the original email and was thinking
more
of Pro*C or Pro*C++ applications against Oracle.

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C# is ms'
we-can't-run-away-with-the-java-standard-so-here's-our-own-'c-like'
-language
language for .Net.  There's a good bit of foofaraw over whether or not it
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better/faster than/will kill java etc. in the dev community.  Not to be
confused with the latest version of visual C++ (which is mostly the same as
old C++, but includes extensions for coding against the .net virtual
machine) or J#, which is supposedly yet still more Java-like than C#.
Interested readers can get the party line at

http://www.msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/0900/csharp/csharp.asp.

Cheers,

-Roy

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Yeah they refer to it as C Sharp as in the music # symbol.
It is Microsoft's C.Net - I think.

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C# ?
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Hello Guru's


I wonder if any of you have had this problem, we have a external company
developing a software package in C#.
On their Oracle9i test system, the software works fine, however once
brought accross to our systems,
which is an Oracle8i ( 817) system the software gives a (ORA - 00933 SQL
command not properly ended) error, but funny enough only on the one window.

I am told by them that they do straight select from a table, saving the
returned columns in variables etc.


The only difference is they don't have any semi-colons (;) at the end of
the their queries. But catch 22 it works on the other screens(windows).


Hope you folks can help
TIA
Denham


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Re: Oracle8i - Oracle9i issue??????

2002-02-22 Thread hemantchitale

C# ?

Hemant K Chitale
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Hello Guru's


I wonder if any of you have had this problem, we have a external company
developing a software package in C#.
On their Oracle9i test system, the software works fine, however once
brought accross to our systems,
which is an Oracle8i ( 817) system the software gives a (ORA - 00933 SQL
command not properly ended) error, but funny enough only on the one window.
I am told by them that they do straight select from a table, saving the
returned columns in variables etc.


The only difference is they don't have any semi-colons (;) at the end of
the their queries. But catch 22 it works on the other screens(windows).


Hope you folks can help
TIA
Denham


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Re: password question

2002-02-21 Thread hemantchitale

Sameer,

The obvious answer you can't decrypt the password.  Else a number of
people would think harder about buying Oracle.
It's a one-way hash -- you can't get the original value back.

It is possible to temporarily reset a user's password to something else,
become the user with your own password and reset the password back
to the original value, without knowing what the original password was.

e.g. suppose a user's encrypted password string is 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP',
read this string from DBA_USERS,
store it someplace (a variable, a table ;),
execute ALTER USER username identified by mypassword,
login as the user CONNECT username/mypassword,
do your SQLs as that user,
reset the user's password ALTER USER username identified by values
'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP'



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Hi,
Oracle stores password in encrypted format,
is it possible (suppose i have access to dba_users table)
to retrieve and descrypt the password.


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Re: sql question

2002-02-21 Thread hemantchitale

Rich,

Are you sure that that is what you want ?
Suppose your range values were something like :
 begin end
 1 9
 1519
 2329
ie, the RANGE table shows that 10-14 and 20-22 are invalid (not allowed)
values.

Your problem statement and the SQL that Paul provides for the problem
statement
would return numbers like 10, 11, 20,21 which are, actually, invalid.

You'd have to write a cursor to loop through the valid ranges  ??

Hemant K Chitale
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To use your example column names:

select num from numbers where num between
(select min(begin) from range) and (select max(end) from range);


--- oracle dba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 I have a SQL question.  Suppose I have a table called RANGE looks
 like
 this:

 begin end
 1 9
 1019
 2029

 Then I have a table NUMBERS that's full of bunch of numbers like
 this:

 num
 1
 2
 3
 4
 ...
 98
 99
 100

 I want to write a SQL that returns the number that are within
 the ranges defined in the RANGE table.  So number 1 through 29
 should be returned.

 Can someone help me with this?  Thanks.

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RE: password question

2002-02-21 Thread hemantchitale

But where do you get the known or captured hash ?  Only a DBA can
query DBA_USERS for PASSWORD.  A regular user cannot query DBA_USERS
and cannot see PASSWORD in ALL_USERS.
If you are already a DBA on the target database  you really don't need
to
find out the password for another user.

Supposing you grab a site's FULL Export dump.  I guess you can then
do a FULL Import and  get the captured hash.  But why do you need it now
that you have the FULL Database with you anyway ?

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One way hash, yes, but can use username to forceably crack the password
(same idea as unix CRACK password cracking program).  Hash is consistent
which is why you can pick up the password string and drop it to another
database (same username) and have the password work on the new machine.


A non Oracle example would be to perform the following at the unix prompt:


  echo 'some test string' | md5


With the hash, you could create several variations and test against the
known or 'captured' hash.  Again, brute force method.






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Sameer,


The obvious answer you can't decrypt the password.  Else a number of
people would think harder about buying Oracle.
It's a one-way hash -- you can't get the original value back.


It is possible to temporarily reset a user's password to something else,
become the user with your own password and reset the password back
to the original value, without knowing what the original password was.


e.g. suppose a user's encrypted password string is 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP',
read this string from DBA_USERS,
store it someplace (a variable, a table ;),
execute ALTER USER username identified by mypassword,
login as the user CONNECT username/mypassword,
do your SQLs as that user,
reset the user's password ALTER USER username identified by values
'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP'






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Hi,
Oracle stores password in encrypted format,
is it possible (suppose i have access to dba_users table)
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RE: Disable certain users from login to database while applying H

2002-02-20 Thread hemantchitale


Catherine

Which database accounts will you lock ?  You can't lock APPS, APPLSYS and
APPLSYSPUB
as APPLSYSPUB and APPS will be used by all users and APPS and APPLSYS will
be used by the patch.

Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


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Hi Gurus,

Thanks for replying to my qn.

Startup Database in Restricted mode will not work (for more details, pls
refer to the email below).

The following solutions :
1.  Database ON LOGON Trigger = don't know whether it will work
2.  Lock Database Account = I am going to use this solution.
3.  Change Database Account Password = I believe it will work

In our Oracle HR, we also support oracle client-server forms/reports, so
I've to disable their accounts so that they do not access the HR database
using sqlplus/forms/reports while I am applying patches.


Regds,
Catherine
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 As you are talking of Oracle Apps, NONE of the
suggested
solutions :
 1.  Database ON LOGON Trigger
 2.  Lock Database Account
 3.  Change Database Account Password
 4.  Startup Database in Restricted mode
 would work.

 The users connect to the Database in the APPS schema
-- this
is the
 universal
 schema that Oracle Apps uses.  The Patch requires APPS
so
Restricted
 doesn't
 help (unless you grant Restricted to APPS in which
case all
the users can
 logon).
 Ditto about locking, changing password or writing a
trigger
on the APPS
 schema.

 What you can do are :
 1. Shutdown the Apache server for the Self-Service
Modules
 2. Shutdown the Forms server for the Forms Module
 3. Shutdown the Concurrent Managers.

 All of the above would affect ALL users.

 Alternatively, login to the Application as the System
Administrator user
 and
 change the Application User Passwords for the users
whom you
want disabled.
 Change the passwords back to a default (WELCOME)
later.

 However, what you SHOULD do, per Oracle Support, is 1.
Shutdown 2. Shutdown
 3. Shutdown
 as I have listed above.
 If you are familiar with Oracle Applications Patching
and
are comfortable
 with reading
 the Patch drivers, you can figure out what database
objects
are being
 modified/updated/created
 and what Forms/Reports/HTML etc files are being
modified/created by the
 patch.
 Then you can take an intelligent decision  should
you
allow users to
 logon when
 applying the patch ?

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 Hi Gurus,

 I need to disable certain users from login to database
while
I apply the
 Human Resources Patches for our Oracle HR 11i
Applications.
 Which is the best way to do it ? Should I write
on-logon
trigger to disable
 or should I take away their privileges to logon to
report/forms/sqlplus ?
 What about the rest of the DBA Applications
administrator ?
What do U guys
 do to solve the dead-lock problem (If my users access
the HR
tables while I
 apply the patches, I will encounter dead-lock problem)
?

 Please advise. Thanks.

 Regds,
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Re: Web DB 2.5 listener always hung for Oracle HRMS applications V11.

2002-02-20 Thread hemantchitale


Catherine,


Why don't you migrate from WebDB to Apache ?.  There is excellent
documentation
on migrating from WebDB to Apache for 11i.

Your WebDB listener could be hung if it is running in the wrong shell --
eg if you
logout of the telnet session where the WebDB listener was started, you will
see
subsequents requests to the listener failing.  This is because the parent
shell
has died.

If you are starting it from the Bourne shell, try switching to Korn shell
before starting it
(or vice versa).
Check whether the startup script calls nohup wdblsnr hostname
portnumber .

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 V11.  

   

   

   






Hi Gurus,

We are running Oracle HRMS Applications 11I (V11.5.1) in two E450 sun
servers. OS is Solaris 2.6

1st server contains the database, concurrent manager and report server.
2nd server contains the apache listener, TCF SERVER, Web DB 2.5 listener,
Web DB 2.2 Listener and Form server listener.

Qn : The Web DB 2.5 listener always hung. Is there a way to solve the
problem ? Is anyone having the same configurations as me with no problem ?
Please help. Thanks

I've checked the network roundtrip between the 2 servers using
tnsping=fast, no bottlenecks
I've checked the number of processes in the database : it's only 26
concurrent users (26processes in the init.ora)=ok
I've checked the 1st and 2nd server resources using vmstat and iostat :
There are enough memory = no bottlenecks

Oracle consultants claim that there is bug in the Web DB 2.5 listener
(Version is adwdbctl.sh.UNIX 115.1 2000/05/01 17:35:52). The only
solution
is to bounce the web listener when the problem arises.

We even schedule a job to bounce the listener at 7am and 1pm but that does
not solve the problem. Sometimes, I still have to bounce the web listener
manually when user reports the problem.

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RE: Web DB 2.5 listener always hung for Oracle HRMS applications V11.

2002-02-20 Thread hemantchitale

Catherine,

You have the wrong note.  Look up Note 119873.1 titled Apache Single
Listener Configuration for Applications 11.5.1
I don't know how you are using the at command to startup the servers.

I didn't suggest that the forms server and reports server die.  I was
talking of the WebDB listener specifically !
WebDB2.2 handles forms sign-ons while 2.5 handles online help and personal
home page and self-service modules.
Note 113254.1 refers to the Forms Server/Reports Server/ WebDB 2.2 dying
because of the
wrong shell.  You need to check the shell your WebDB 2.5 runs from. Note
144400.1 covers
WebDB 2.5 as well.

Do a ps -ef to see if the process is running.  Remember that WebDB 2.2
and 2.5 have
different startup scripts and process names.

I do remember seeing WebDB 2.5 die by itself occassionally.  We had a
cron job running
the webdb startup script periodically.


Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


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V11.   

   

   

   






Hi Hemant,

Please ignore my earlier email.

We use the at command to startup all our form server/report server/webdb
listener etc so that even if we were to logout of the telnet session where
the WebDB listener is started. The form server/report server/listener will
not hung/died because the parent shell has died.

 Why don't you migrate from WebDB to Apache ?
I've found the document in metalink Note:154666.1 = Moving virtual
directory mappings from WebDB to iAS. Thanks.

Qn : Has anyone using Oracle HRMS V11.5.1 migrated from WebDB to Apache
before ? How's the performance ? Does the apache listener hung ? Please
advise. Thank you.

Regds,
Catherine
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 Catherine,


 Why don't you migrate from WebDB to Apache ?.  There
is
excellent
 documentation
 on migrating from WebDB to Apache for 11i.

 Your WebDB listener could be hung if it is running
in the
wrong shell --
 eg if you
 logout of the telnet session where the WebDB listener
was
started, you will
 see
 subsequents requests to the listener failing.  This is
because the parent
 shell
 has died.

 If you are starting it from the Bourne shell, try
switching
to Korn shell
 before starting it
 (or vice versa).
 Check whether the startup script calls nohup wdblsnr
hostname
 portnumber .

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 Hi Gurus,

 We are running Oracle HRMS Applications 11I (V11.5.1)
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E450 sun
 servers. OS is Solaris 2.6

 1st server contains the database, concurrent manager
and
report server.
 2nd server contains the apache listener, TCF SERVER,
Web DB

Re: Rollback Segments

2002-02-19 Thread hemantchitale


 iag/iap, rpt and sql*menu were for the duhvelopers!.  I wouldn't remember
these product ;

Hemant K Chitale
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How about iag/iap ? And rpt ? Oh and SQL*Menu ?
And there were about 14 enqueue/locks in Oracle Version 5 as far as I can
remember.

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Re: Oracle 8i patch installation

2002-02-19 Thread hemantchitale



If you install an additional option/product back from the 8.1.7 CDs later,
you
should reapply the 8.1.7.3 Patch.  However, you would not need to rerun
the sql scripts (catalog.sql, catproc.sql) unless the new option requires
it --
e.g. if you install Advanced Replication later, you would need to run
catrep.sql

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Hi,

At my site I normally install Oracle Server EE using custom installation,
i.e. I install only the products that I need.

Now an Oracle 8i patchset (e.g. 8.1.7.3 patchset) contains patches for many
products (RDBMS, PL/SQL, Networking, Intermedia etc). If I install say
8.1.7.3 on top of my current 8.1.7.0 it will install not only patches for
products that I
have in my current 8.1.7.0 installation, but also extra patches as well.
This is fine for now I can foresee a problem in future when I install
additional products from the 8.1.7.0 CD. Should I reapply the 8.1.7.3
patchset then to ensure
that all products are properly patches? Do you see any problem with
installing the same patchset more than once for an Oracle server?

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RE: Rollback Segments

2002-02-18 Thread hemantchitale


I remember the BI.ORA  (Before-Image) file, IOR and ODS in Oracle 5.

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Re: Disable certain users from login to database while applying Human

2002-02-18 Thread hemantchitale


As you are talking of Oracle Apps, NONE of the suggested solutions :
1.  Database ON LOGON Trigger
2.  Lock Database Account
3.  Change Database Account Password
4.  Startup Database in Restricted mode
would work.

The users connect to the Database in the APPS schema -- this is the
universal
schema that Oracle Apps uses.  The Patch requires APPS so Restricted
doesn't
help (unless you grant Restricted to APPS in which case all the users can
logon).
Ditto about locking, changing password or writing a trigger on the APPS
schema.

What you can do are :
1. Shutdown the Apache server for the Self-Service Modules
2. Shutdown the Forms server for the Forms Module
3. Shutdown the Concurrent Managers.

All of the above would affect ALL users.

Alternatively, login to the Application as the System Administrator user
and
change the Application User Passwords for the users whom you want disabled.
Change the passwords back to a default (WELCOME) later.

However, what you SHOULD do, per Oracle Support, is 1. Shutdown 2. Shutdown
3. Shutdown
as I have listed above.
If you are familiar with Oracle Applications Patching and are comfortable
with reading
the Patch drivers, you can figure out what database objects are being
modified/updated/created
and what Forms/Reports/HTML etc files are being modified/created by the
patch.
Then you can take an intelligent decision  should you allow users to
logon when
applying the patch ?

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Hi Gurus,

I need to disable certain users from login to database while I apply the
Human Resources Patches for our Oracle HR 11i Applications.
Which is the best way to do it ? Should I write on-logon trigger to disable
or should I take away their privileges to logon to report/forms/sqlplus ?
What about the rest of the DBA Applications administrator ? What do U guys
do to solve the dead-lock problem (If my users access the HR tables while I
apply the patches, I will encounter dead-lock problem) ?

Please advise. Thanks.

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Re: Changing dump destinations in init.ora

2002-02-17 Thread hemantchitale


No, you do not have to.  Dump_File_Dest information is not stored in the
control-file -- it is read afresh at every instance startup.  You can
change
the destinations in the initSID.ora and restart the instance for the
new destinations to take effect.

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Re: Oracle Migration Utility

2002-02-15 Thread hemantchitale

Fred,

There are a two different issues here ..
1. You seem to be on OPS currently ?  Will you be migrating to OPS or
non-OPS ?
2.  You are moving from SGI to Sun.

As it is a change of platform, the ONLY migration option you have is
Export-Create_new_Database-Import.  The new Database can be
either OPS or non-OPS -- that does not matter.  You must create
the same Tablespace Names before you Import -- else the import
will try to create the tablespaces with the datafile names as in the
original (source) database.

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Can anyone advise me on using the migration utility?
We are finally moving from 7.3.4 to 8.1.7. Has the
utility worked well for you? Known bugs? Any info
greatly appreciated.

THe history, if you want to know. We have been stuck
at 7.3.4 due to a lack of migration path for OPS on
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will be ready to start testing the migration in March.

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RE: URGENT Help on tracking unauthorized login to Oracle Database

2002-02-14 Thread hemantchitale

Ashoke,

In chapter 24,  go through :
 Managing Audit Trail Information
Setting Auditing Options
   Enabling Audit Options
Enabling Statement Privilege Auditing
You will see this text :
To audit all successful and unsuccessful connections to and disconnections
from the database, regardless of user, BY SESSION (the default and only
value for this option), enter the following statement:


AUDIT SESSION;




I use this query  to report failed login attempts from SYS.AUD$ :
select os_username, username, userhost, terminal, timestamp, returncode
from sys.dba_audit_session
where returncode != 0
order by timestamp
/

(DBA_AUDIT_SESSION is a view on AUD$)



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Hi Revaldi and Joe (Testa),

I went through the following Administrator's guide.
Oracle8i Administrator's Guide
Release 2 (8.1.6)
Part Number A76956-01
I could only see chapter 24 on 'Auditing database Use' and under that the
following sub-sections. I went through these secition and could not find
anything on unsuccessful login to oracle database. Could you please help me
in ponting to the right chapter/section.
 Guidelines for Auditing
 Creating and Deleting the Database Audit Trail Views
 Managing Audit Trail Information
 Viewing Database Audit Trail Information
 Auditing Through Database Triggers
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 Administrators guide.
 Chapter on auditing.
 Audit session.


 Rivaldi


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 Joe,


 We referred the auditing option. My understanding is that you can
 track the oracle users using database auditing feature once the users
 are logged into the database.


 But my requirement is to track the users who tried to login to the
 database but could not login due to wrong password.


 For example, somebody may know the connect string for an oracle
 database and trying to login to the database as system user and with
 various combination of password. We like to know who are these users.


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 Ashoke


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 Administrators guide


 chapter on auditing.


 joe


 Mandal, Ashoke wrote:


 Greetings,
 
 We have a database with very sensitive data. Our management wants me
 to find out the way to secure this data from unauthorized login and
 track these users who tried to login to this database.


 
 Is there any way we can track the unauthorized users, who try to
 login to an oracle database with invalid userid or password but with
 valid connect string.


 
 If there is no options under oracle then is there any 3rd party
 software for this purpose.
 
 Any help is appreciated
 
 Thanks,
 Ashoke
 





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Re: lock problem

2002-02-11 Thread hemantchitale



What sort of a terminal is TERMINAL A.  Does the server-side
process get killed when you power off the terminal ?  Or is it
just the display that on the TERMINAL that goes ?

If the server side process is still hanging around, it wouldn't release
the locks until it is killed or dies (e.g. by sqlnet Dead Connection
Detection
for a SQLNet connection or SIGHUP-kill -1 --  for a serial port terminal).
Another i
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Hi ,
I have a problem.
I wrote an sql  : in TERMINAL A

select col1,col2
 from tableX
 where col1 = ...
 for update

I wrot same sql , in other terminal TERMINAL B

select col1,col2
 from tableX
 where col1 = ...
 for update

   Then , I immidiately power off Terminal A. In other words connection is
closed without rollback or commit.

But ,  terminal B waits..  what is the problem ?
TABLE ROW LOCK is not AUTOMATICALLY killed.

I used , KILL SESSION to kill session. But
in my oppinion ORACLE must do it. Because connection is
closed.

I want , oracle kill this type of lock. How can I set Oracle to kill this
kind of LOCK problems ?
please help me..




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RE: ADI Warning

2002-02-07 Thread hemantchitale


Just to add some more information on ADI.

ADI sets up ODBC to connect to the database.  When you define the database
connection
in the ADI setup screens, you can't find the information saved anwhere in
the files the ADI Home
on the PC.  Therefore you cannot copy this information from one PC to
another --
you have to manually set-up the database connect on each PC.

We have enabled Database Session Audit and I have found that when a user
used
ADI and Excel to do a Journal Import from Excel to Oracle GL  for 48
Journal Lines,
the client made 21 connections to the database as APPLYSPUB and 26
connections
as APPS  between 14:46:00 and 14:50:18 (in the space of 4 minutes).
Just think -- 47 distinct database sessions
(connect-disconnect-connect-disconnect)
from one client in 4 minutes (and only for 48 journal lines).

The users are happy with ADI as it allows them to use Excel ;).  I am not
happy with
the way it connects to the database -- quite expensive :


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ORACLE APPLICATIONS DESKTOP INTEGRATOR 11i
Oracle® ADI is a spreadsheet-based extension to Oracle Applications that
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familiarity of a spreadsheet. ADI combines a spreadsheet's ease of use with
the power of Oracle Applications to provide true desktop integration during
every phase of the accounting cycle. You can create budgets, record
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from any application to the web, a spreadsheet, or standard text output,
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Friends --

Lately I've been relegated to the deepest recesses of the dark murky depths
of Oracle's product line.  I see you blithely exchanging DBA mail and look
on longingly, pining for the fjords, as it were.  But I digress.

If you every have to install ADI on a PC, make sure it doesn't have any
Oracle products installed on it.  Make sure there are no Oracle directories
either in C: or in C:\Program Files.  If you do, you will not be able to
install ADI, and must deinstall all existing Oracle products before
installing ADI, which, graciously, comes with SQL*Plus and SQL*Net.
Everything else needs to be reinstalled.  Oh, and that old TNSNAMES.ora
file
you have hanging around, it don't mean anything to ADI.

I just can't fathom why Oracle would do this to itself.  I hope its foot
starts feeling better soon.

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Re: Unix permissions

2002-02-07 Thread hemantchitale

oracle will be writing to the directories ... so add the Oracle RDBMS owner
in
the group owning the directory OR let the owner of the directory be the
application
user but change the group to dba.
In either case, you would need chmod g+w on the directory.

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Since we use utl_file to read/write files from our application
directories(which are not owned by oracle), we need to set the permissions
on these directories so that Oracle has permission to read and write to
them.

However we run into problems because Systems Admin guys do not like :

1. setting 777 permissions on the directories
2. making our application user a member of the oracle group

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RE: svrmgrl

2002-02-07 Thread hemantchitale

Well  oracle IS the owner of the database.  oracle has connected to the
database as SYS.  This is similar to connecting as INTERNAL.
Go back to any database you have running the earlier versions of Oracle,
connect as INTERNAL in svrmgrl and ask the same question again.



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Hello Rachel  All

Tested it and it worked.
it worked so well that I could access any table
(tested some).

?

Where is the security?

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 that's because, as Oracle has been promising, they no longer support
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 It does not exist, you will need to use sqlplus:

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Re: About Temporary tablespaces and temporary segments allocation

2002-02-04 Thread hemantchitale

Imma,

A database when created, by default, has all tablespaces as of type
PERMANENT.
A sort which exceeds the sort_area_size allocated in memory goes to the
user's TEMPORARY_TABLESPACE
which, btw, CAN be a PERMANENT tablespace.  Thus, sorts would allocate
Temporary Segments
in the tablespace named TEMP.
The issue with having a PERMANENT TEMPORARY_TABLESPACE is that you would
have
frequent segments being created and dropped and extents being allocated and
dropped within
each segment whenever users do large sorts.  This could be a performance
hit and can fragment
the Tablespace.
If  there are no segments in the tablespace, you could just do an
ALTER TABLESPACE temp TEMPORARY
and a single sort segment would be created on the first sort/usage of the
tablespace.
Note that once the tablespace is TEMPORARY, you cannot create any other
objects (Tables/Indexes)
in it.  You can segments and extents in PERMANENT tablespaces in
DBA_SEGMENTS
and DBA_EXTENTS.  For TEMPORARY tablespaces, query V$SORT_SEGMENT
and V$SORT_USAGE.

If you do have other segments already present in the tablespace, you would
have to
move them out (Export-Drop-Create_in_new_TBS-Import  OR Copy-Drop-Rename)
OR
create another tablespace of type TEMPORARY  and set that as the user's
temporary tablespace
CREATE TABLESPACE temp2 datafile 'adfa' TEMPORARY;
ALTER USER username TEMPORARY TABLESPACE temp2;


Hemant K Chitale
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Hi,
I have probably to beg you pardon for my question but I have a very short
experince as an Oracle dba and it is the first time I found a situation
like the one I'm going to describe to you.

Working on an existing Oracle database I found that all users had been
defined with an associated temporary tablespace
named TEMP but selecting from dba_tablespaces the TEMP tablespace
resulted to be PERMANET not TEMPORARY - problably because it had
been turned from TEMPORARY to PERMANENT in a later time.

I would like to know what happens in case the SORT_AREA_SIZE in
not large enough to manage with sort opererations - are temporary
segments still allocated on the TEMP tablespace (despite the fact
that it is not TEMPORARY but PERMANET) or a temporary segment could be
allocated only on a temporary tablespace?

Thanks in advance
Imma


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Re: Rename a datafile

2002-01-30 Thread hemantchitale



A tablespace is a logical concept.  Tablespace names are available only
from the
Data Dictionary --- when the Database is OPEN.
DataFiles are physical.  DataFile names are in the ControlFile.

If you want to move a datafile when the database is OPEN, you must take the
Tablespace Offline and move and then rename the file.

If you can afford to MOUNT but not OPEN the database, you can do an
ALTER DATABASE RENAME FILE old TO new.


Note that in both cases you must actually move or copy the file to the new
location yourself, using the OS's move or copy command before you
execute the Rename in Oracle.  Oracle will NOT move the file for you.

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Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


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Okay, I don't have the manuals with me and can't for the life of me
remember the correct syntax to do this...

Is it:

shutdown database
startup no noumt  (or startup mount)
alter tablesapce evisions
rename datafile '/full_path/file_name' to '/full_path/new_name';

I'm on 8.1.6 and this complains saying the database isn't open.

It can't be open to rename a datafile...

Thanks,
Joe

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RE: adpatch question

2002-01-30 Thread hemantchitale


How many people have really tried the other options in adctrl.  Quite
rare that you
have to attempt them :

 3.Tell worker to shutdown/quit

 4.Tell manager that a worker failed its job

 5.Tell manager that a worker acknowledges quit

 6.Tell manager to start a worker that has shutdown


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Matt (and any others who are interested) -





My adpatch went fine after tinkering under the hood except for one place
where Oracle created a table, populated it and blew away its max extents.
Amusing, but lame.  I can't speak for Oracle on this one, but it looks to
me that if you wind up in the position I was (that is to say screwed) that
is the way to fix it.





Another thing to bear in mind is that the hidden option (8) in adctrl
should NOT be selected unless the workers are actively working.  If ps -ef
worker does not show any workers, do NOT quit an active process.  You are
better off, at that point, to rerun adpatch without killing anything and
letting adpatch attempt to clean up after itself.





HTH,


Bambi (head under the hood gal).





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 If he's not interested, I am.  Please post a summary
 upon completion.


 Matt


 
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  John --
 
  Thanks for the email back.  Apps suck, and going under the
  hood is not for
  the weak of stomach.  Of course, I'm not... and, at this
  point, fighting a
  fire is more fun than watching a heap of smoldering ashes.
  So, I did it.  I
  went under the hood, and found that the fnd_install_processes
  table has one
  entry for each worker plus one for worker 0, which, I assume,
  is the driver.
  The status for 0 was W, 1-3 was R and 4 was J.  I changed 4
  to R and re-ran
  and, so far, at least, everything is fine.  650 jobs have
  run, so, I think
  that if anything dangerous would have happened it would have
  happened by
  now.  It's just irritating.  I'm off to explore how to run a .jlt
 file
  manually... maybe I could find an FM somewhere to R.
 
  I'll let you know how this finishes if you're interested...
  Bambi.
 
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  Bambi,
 
  I wouldn't touch *anything* under the hood as far as Apps
  goes, esp. 11i.
  Raise a TAR and let Oracle Support come back to you on this.
  I assume that
  you are testing the upgrade and not actually doing it. These
  sort of things
  should have been ironed out prior to the upgrade with lots of
  iterations on
  lots of clones. A 11i upgrade is NOT for the faint of heart.
 
  Sorry - but that's what I would recommend!
 
  John Kanagaraj
  Oracle Applications DBA
  DBSoft Inc
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  not those of my
  employer or clients **
 
 
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RE: adpatch question

2002-01-29 Thread hemantchitale

Way to go !  I've updated FND_INSTALL_PROCESSES,
played around (updated) the restart files in
$APPL_TOP/admin/envname/restart
etc.

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John --

Thanks for the email back.  Apps suck, and going under the hood is not for
the weak of stomach.  Of course, I'm not... and, at this point, fighting a
fire is more fun than watching a heap of smoldering ashes.  So, I did it.
I
went under the hood, and found that the fnd_install_processes table has one
entry for each worker plus one for worker 0, which, I assume, is the
driver.
The status for 0 was W, 1-3 was R and 4 was J.  I changed 4 to R and re-ran
and, so far, at least, everything is fine.  650 jobs have run, so, I think
that if anything dangerous would have happened it would have happened by
now.  It's just irritating.  I'm off to explore how to run a .jlt file
manually... maybe I could find an FM somewhere to R.

I'll let you know how this finishes if you're interested...
Bambi.

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Bambi,

I wouldn't touch *anything* under the hood as far as Apps goes, esp. 11i.
Raise a TAR and let Oracle Support come back to you on this. I assume that
you are testing the upgrade and not actually doing it. These sort of things
should have been ironed out prior to the upgrade with lots of iterations on
lots of clones. A 11i upgrade is NOT for the faint of heart.

Sorry - but that's what I would recommend!

John Kanagaraj
Oracle Applications DBA
DBSoft Inc
(W): 408-970-7002

Fear is the darkroom where Evil develops your negatives.
Wanna break free of fear? Click on 'http://www.needhim.org'

** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and not those of
my
employer or clients **


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 Hi Folks!

 I'm in the middle of an 11.5.5 upgrade.  Now, if you've done
 that type of
 thing before, you know those suckers just run forever, and if
 you leave it
 running overnight, you generally come in the next day to find
 that things
 failed overnight.  Well, that's where I was.  I left this
 sucker to run
 overnight, and, when I came in, sure enough, worker 4 had
 crapped out with a
 java error.  I checked metalink, and it said skip it, and
 when you're done
 with 1808429 (the 11.5.5 upgrade patch), just run
 asfakreg.jlt manually.
 Fine.  No big deal.  I went into adctrl and everything was in
 a wait state
 except for ol number 4 which crapped out.  I chose hidden
 option 8 (skip
 this thing) and the status changed to Skip  restart.  Great.
  Except it
 didn't.  Evidently, having no response for X amount of time,
 all my workers
 stopped.  Again, no big deal, just re-run adpatch and let it
 start where it
 crapped out.  Well, now we run into a big deal, because it
 can't change the
 status from Skip  restart to anything that will allow
 adpatch to start
 again (like, maybe, failed where it was before I fixed it).

 I'm thinking of going under the sheets, finding the $%^*
 table and updating
 the status myself.  Anyone have any reason why that's not
 such a great idea?
 Anyone have any other sneaky ways to change the status?
 Anyone have a list
 of the hidden options that Oracle doesn't tell you about
 (like ol number 8
 there?)?

 aTdHvAaNnKcSe!
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Re: multiple extents are OK, dagnabbit!

2002-01-24 Thread hemantchitale

I wonder why the upgrade scripts were rebuilding the FET$, UET$ tables.
When you mention sql.bsq -- that applies only when you CREATE the database.
Did you CREATE and IMPORT to do the upgrade ?  IMPORT would certainly
be active on FET$ and UET$.

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Hi Jeremiah,
   The problem arose in the catalog upgrade script. It would never
return. My diary says we let one attempt run for 36 hours. The process
showed CPU usage and I/O but nothing happened. Some of the Oracle guys
figured the problem was with the $fet (or whatever tables hold the
extent
info, I never bother with  the internals of the data dictionary) having
problems while being restructured. Once the tables were changed from 40K
to 500M
extents the upgrade took less than 2 hours.

One of the suggestions I did not use was to edit sql.bsq to provide much
larger
extents for the table holding the extent info. Even though I do this for
the SOURCE$ table I am a big fan of the KISS principle and rebuilding
the tables
needed to be done anyways.

HTH
Dave


 Can you elaborate on exactly what happened?  8.1.5 to 8.1.6 is just a
 catalog script and a binary change.  What error did you encounter, and
 at which step in the upgrade?  Extents should not matter in an
 upgrade.

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RE: DBA Experiences with Oracle and RAID 0+1

2002-01-21 Thread hemantchitale


How about Singapore for both Oracle OpenWorld and Miracle Master Class ?
;)
I'd even take leave-without-pay and pay for the registration charges myself
to attend, if necessary.  ;)

;)

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As a cost-cutting measure:  They could combine the U.S. and European
conventions, all they have to do is hold them in Halifax ...

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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Oracle OpenWorld in the Americas will never leave the West Coast and is
highly unlikely to leave San Francisco. Too convenient to Headquarters

If Miracle gave that class in Halifax, I'd go!

--- Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 May I suggest Halifax, Canada as a great location for this course???

 StilL waiting for Oracle OpenWorld to come here, somehow they never
 do.

 : )

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 you have no idea how badly most of us now want to come to that class.
 Not that I'd understand most of what was said, but just to listen :)


 --- Mogens Nørgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Jared,
 
  Good thought! We're running our annual Miracle Master Class (this
  year
  with Jonathan Lewis) this week and Cary Millsap (and his gang),
  Jonathan
  and James will arrive tomorrow (Monday), while Steve Adams, Lex de
  Haan,
  Stephan Haisley and a bunch of other guys will arrive on Tuesday.
  I'll
  keep this message and throw it up for discussion on the Oak Table
  (see
  Cary's wonderful article on www.Undskyld.Org)...
 
  Jared Still wrote:
 
  Mogens,
  
  In regard to the number of spindles issue:  James Morle has some
  excellent discussion on that in 'Scaling Oracle 8i'.   ( I think
  it's that
  book  )
  
  When some of the newer larges drives are used in a given
  configuration,
  they mabe be able to outperform older drives in a similar
  configuration with
  a larger number of spindles.
  
  I say 'older' since smaller drives usually aren't using the latest
  technology
  and the newer ones have sufficiently higher throughput to match
 the
  capability of a larger number of drives in given configuration.
  
  Food for thought, anyway.
  
  Jared
  
  
  On Sunday 20 January 2002 06:50, Mogens Nørgaard wrote:
  
  Diego,
  
  I agree with you 100% and didn't express myself correctly in my
  email.
  The more spindles the better. What I meant to say was that you
 must
  never buy disks by taking your total needed amount of space and
  divide
  by the number of big disks you can get hold on :). It's the
 number
  of
  IO's required by the disk system that matters, not the size...
  
  Thanks for making this clear to everyone.
  
  Mogens
  
  Diego Cutrone wrote:
  
  Mogens:
 Just let me disagree with you at only one point. According to
  my
  experience, I think that the size of the disks in an array does
  matter
  sometimes. It's not the same to have 24 9GB disks that to have
  only 3 of
  73GB. You have 24 spindles againts 3, the first option (in a
 well
  configured system of course) will give you better performance in
  enviroments where you have a lot of concurrency and many users.
 However I think that what I've written above might not be
  correct (may
  be it should be tested) if the 73GB outstands for a long way the
  9GB disks
  in terms of seek time and transfer rate.
 Take a look at an extract of Gaja's paper Implementing RAID
 on
  Oracle:
  
  5) Procure the smallest drive money can buy, keeping in mind
  

Re: Alias Table Error...why?

2002-01-21 Thread hemantchitale

Check the
   a.pc_session_user_name = 'tsokol'
There is no alias a.

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I have the following SQL Statement but am getting and ORA-00904 Invalid
Column Error.  What Could I be doing wrong?

SELECT
  Launch.oc_session_id
FROM
  pt_client_eventdetails launch,
  pt_client_eventdetails logout
WHERE
   a.pc_session_user_name = 'tsokol'
   and (logout.pc_event_op = 'LAUNCH' and logout.pc_event_op  'LOGOUT'
and
logout.pc_event_op  'SOLUTION_VIEWED')
   and  launch.pc_session_id = logout.pc_session_id

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RE: Standby Instance questions and HA

2002-01-19 Thread hemantchitale


AFAIK, TAF does not support Forms.
Refer to Note 114548.1 and 97926.1

(quoting from 114548.1 : Developer applications do not support TAF as
there is no great advantage in
 using it. 
and from 97926.1: At the time of writing only a limited number of client
environments are 'failover aware'. These include:
 Sql*Plus 8.1
 OCI8 and clients built using OCI8 


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Speaking of TAF,

Does anyone know (or have tested/implemented/explored) TAF with Forms
application? Does this work??

We have another JAVA application that connects using JDBC and looks for
certain errors and whenever it detects an error (appropriate one), it
reconnects to the other side. Both sides are 9i instances.

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automagically
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RE: [resend] multiple extents are OK,

2002-01-17 Thread hemantchitale

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CHITALE Hemant Krishnarao/Prin DBA/CSM/ST Group18/01/2002 11:21 AM


Jerry,

Multiple extents is not a problem, true.
But you could put in some consulting effort to resize the extents ---
recreate the
tablespaces  (or at least those tables which suffer full-table scans) with
uniform-sized extents where the extent size is a proper multiple of the
max_io size --
that way you can reduce the I/O calls for FTSs, do some
export/import/rebuilding,
keep your client happy (tell them about extent-sizes rather than number of
extents)
and earn some $$.


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Jerry - Maybe I'm missing something here. Since you refer to them as a
client, you must have a consulting relationship with them - right? So if
you rebuild the tables, you get more money - right? So you rebuild the
tables, the client is happy, and you are a little wealthier - right? Or
maybe you are too wealthy as it is, with more work than you can handle.
Then
you solicit help from others on this list to be your trusted assistant that
will rebuild the tables, explaining to the client that you are
overqualified
for such a mundane task.
I'm teasing you, but the older I get, the more I see that sometimes we
computer folk are our own worst enemy. There is such a thing as being
technically right but losing the client anyway. By the way, I totally agree
with you on the multiple extents issue, but since Oracle was nice enough to
post the paper Stop Defragmenting . .  on their web site, that seems to
have convinced the manager that wanted to hear something from the vendor
before he would believe it. In my case I'm an employee, so it would just
cut
into my weekends. Good luck, but don't forget the softer skills.
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Hi there -

I'm trying to convince a client that multiple extents for a table will not
hurt their performance. It's a PeopleSoft app, and PeopleSoft is telling
them that they need to reorg any object with greater than 10 extents (even
indexes). This Oracle 8.1.6.

I've referenced the How to Stop Defragmenting and Start Living: The
Definitive Word on Fragmentation white paper by Bhaskar Himatsingka and
Juan Loaiza of Oracle. That didn't convince them. I tried to explain that
Oracle reads BUFFERS and not extents, etc., but that didn't work.

I'm about to open a vein.

Does anybody have any references that they can point me to? (Something from
PeopleSoft would be ideal, though I would be suprised if it existed.) I
read
a rant on somebody's web site a while back that was really good, but alas I
cannot remember his name or URL. (I blame my kids for my failing memory).


Thanks!

- Jerry

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Re: Lookup Table Usage

2002-01-17 Thread hemantchitale

Try using V$DB_OBJECT_CACHE , I think it does exist in 7.3.4

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Use database auditing.

Lookup 'audit' in the SQL manual.

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Oracle 7.3.4 on Unix.

The database has dozens of little lookup tables. I'd like to cache those
used the most. Is there a way to see how often a table is queried?

Thanks,

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Re: dynamic views in 8.1.6

2002-01-16 Thread hemantchitale

$)CYes.

Look at the list of required init.ora settings to be applied after
migrating/upgrading
an Apps 10.7/11 database to 8.1.7 when upgrading to Apps 11i  !
[pasting from the Apps 11i Upgrade manual]

Set init.ora file parameters
In your init.ora file, set the following parameters to the values
indicated. Restart
your database for the new parameters to take effect.
_complex_view_merging = true
_fast_full_scan_enabled = false
_like_with_bind_as_equality = true
_new_initial_join_orders = true
_optimizer_mode_force = true
_optimizer_undo_changes = false
_or_expand_nvl_predicate = true
_ordered_nested_loop = true
_push_join_predicate = true
_push_join_union_view = true
_sort_elimination_cost_ratio = 5
_table_scan_cost_plus_one = true
_trace_files_public = true
_use_column_stats_for_function = true
_sqlexec_progression_cost = 0
aq_tm_processes = 1
always_anti_join = NESTED_LOOPS
always_semi_join = NESTED_LOOPS
db_block_buffers = 5000
db_files = 500
db_file_multiblock_read_count = 8
dml_locks = 500
enqueue_resources = 5000
log_buffer = 1048576
log_checkpoint_interval = 10
log_checkpoint_timeout = 72000
max_enabled_roles = 40
nls_date_format = DD-MON-RR
nls_language = american
nls_numeric_characters = .,
nls_sort = binary
nls_territory = america
open_cursors = 500
optimizer_features_enable = 8.1.7
optimizer_max_permutations = 2000
optimizer_mode = rule
optimizer_percent_parallel = 0
parallel_min_servers = 0
processes = 75
query_rewrite_enabled = true
row_locking = always
shared_pool_reserved_size = 3000
shared_pool_size = 3
sort_area_size = 256000
timed_statistics = true


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_might_be_running_apps = true

commit;

Mogens

Stephane Faroult wrote:
 Oracle DBA wrote:
  we have added these parameters in the init.ORA file .
  query_rewrite_enabled=true
  _complex_view_merging=true
  _push_join_predicate=true
  optimizer_max_permutations=79000
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  _push_join_union_view=true
  _ordered_nested_loop=true
  _or_expand_nvl_predicate=true

  after these changes all the dynamic views created by developers
  have stopped
  working .

  our database is running on aix 4.3.3 and its in MTS mode .

  Will appreciate quick response.

  thanks in advance .

  brajesh jaiswal


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Re: Recovery scenario query

2002-01-10 Thread hemantchitale

If you don't have enough disk space  to backup all the datafiles in one run
.
  create alternate backup sets.
  On Mondays, Wednesdays,Fridays :  Backup the Active tablespaces
  On Tuesdays, Thursdays :  Backup the Inactive tablespaces
[You could break this down further if you still don't have enough disk
space.. but I
guess you get the idea].

In case you lose the Inactive tablespace on Thursday evening, you need
Tuesday night's
backups + All the Archived Redo Logs from Tuesday night onwards ---
therefore you cannot
delete Archived Logs daily (ie, when you run your Wednesday backup you
cannot delete
all the archive logs -- you must keep those from Tuesday night onwards).

[note the keep those from Tuesday night onwards means keep at least those
generated from the
point-in-time when Tuesday night's backup *BEGAN* not when it _ended_].

Normally, I wouldn't keep only the last two days archive logs.  I'd
probably keep at least
a week's archive logs on-disk.

[so ... if you backup the Inactive tablespaces only once a month, you
need the archive logs --
either on disk or from tape -- going back to one month].

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We perform disk-to-disk offline backups on a nighlty basis.  Database is
running in archived log mode.  Due to space contraints (don't ask =:-[ ) we
are currently forced to backup only some of the data files.  The data files
excluded belong to specific schema owners and are not being updated, or so
I'm informed =:-0.  I'm trying to get my head around what the recovery
implications are if some of the data files not backed up have being updated
and a recovery is required?.  I expect it depends on what the recovery
scenario is.  So whats worst case scenario and what would my options, if
any
be?.


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RE: US7ASCII, UTF8, characters sets, conversions.....agghhhhHH!!!

2002-01-10 Thread hemantchitale


Look at
1.  Note 139654.1   Oracle Applications Release 11i with UTF8 FAQ
2.  Note 124721.1  Migrating an Application Installation to a new
character-set [UTF8]
3.  Note 134375.1  Using UTF8 Character Set with Applications Release 11i

Even if you are not running Oracle Apps, I suggest you read these notes.

[I haven't done a conversion -- I am running US7ASCII and WE8ISO8859P1
databases ony   :( ]

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Chris,

We have started using UTF8 on our new databases as a standard.

All of our old, existing databases use US7ASCII.

We need to convert a couple of existing databases such as our
200Gig data warehouse from US7ASCII to UTF8.

I am concerned about conversion problems.   I asked a few weeks
ago if anyone had successfully converted from US7ASCII to UTF8
but got no response.

I've searched on Metalink for the topic and didn't find much.   If you
get any responses, could you forward them on to me or post to the
list.

Thanks much,

Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network



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Ok, so to get a better feel for what's going on, is everyone still using
US7ASCII??  Have sites started switching over to UTF8??  Have there been
any
conversion problems??  Do the websites(like Amazon, Yahoo, BN, etc) that
have an Oracle backend enforce UTF8 as a standard, so that they can store
any type of character that a user enters???

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So we stumbled upon the white paper...

WHY WE ARE MOVING OUR DATABASES TO THE UTF8 CHARACTER SET
By David F. Pennington, GlaxoSmithKline

This white paper raises a potential issue that DBAs might need to be aware
of.  Basically, it has to do with certain characters not storing correctly
in the database because of different character sets being used between the
database, client and how the user enters data into the application.

Has this issue been raised on the list before?

Basically, were wondering how other DBAs/sites are handling/approaching
this
issue.

Many TIA!!

Chris

I believe the below link will get you to the white paper on the IOUG
website.

http://www.ioug.org/ioug_s/REPOSITORY_PKG.REPOSITORY_BUILD_VIEW_FORM?v_tech_


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RE: Import Characterset problem

2002-01-08 Thread hemantchitale


Nirmal,

Don't try updating SYS.PROPS$.
1.  It is not supported.
2.  If you make a mistake (an extra space, a mis-spelled value)
you will NOT be able to start the database at all.
3.  I seriously doubt you can convert US7ASCII to AR8MSWIN1256.
4.  The ALTER DATABASE CONVERT CHARACTERSET would also not work.

Log a TAR with Oracle Support.
You would most probably have to recreate your US7ASCII database as an
AR8MSWIN1256 Database.

Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


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Hi Nirmal,

   What u have to do is  a normal update statement on PROPS$...I remember
doing that while there was a need to enter Arabic characters on our DB

Be careful not to enter any spaces between the character set value
AR8MSWIN1256 ..It may crash your target DB..

I do not recall another way of doing that 

HTH
Regards
Gholam

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 Hi gholam,

 Thanks for ur help, by the way let me know how to change the character
set
 of DB using props$?

 Just you want me to update this props$ for nls_characterset with the new
 value?... is it recommanded one?...

 The exp dump file is of character set AR8MSWIN1256, now the target db
is
 with characterset US7ASCII.

 Thanks.

 Nirmal.

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  Hi Nirmal ,
 
  While importing u have to consider that the source and target databases
  character sets should be matching U can change the character set of
your
  target database using props$  data dictionary view 
 
  HTH
 
  Gholam
 
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   Helo gurus,
  
   I exported on schema from the old datatabase and then
   i created new database in my PC. Now i want to import it,
   but it's saying that characterset is not match error.
  
   How can i rectify it 
  
   Thanks.
  
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Re: A Simple Rollback Segment Question

2002-01-08 Thread hemantchitale

Personally I never create one. First thing I do though is create the rbs
tablespace with a couple of rollback seg's before all other create
scripts.

Yes, but in the pre-historic days, you couldn't create the rbs tablespace
without first creating
a non-system rollback segment in the system tablespace !

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Hi


AFAIK this is a prehistoric requirement (Pre 7.3 I believe, No offense
meant :-)). Oracle needed it to create the tablespaces etc. Since 7.3 this
is no longer required (anyone know exactly when?).
Personally I never create one. First thing I do though is create the rbs
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Hello people,
This one is from Oracle Manual:


In general, after database creation, you should create at least one
additional rollback segment in the SYSTEM tablespace. 


I can understand that you should create one additional rollback segment
after database creation b'coz otherwise oracle will use the SYSTEM rollback
segment and this may lead to fragmentation in the SYSTEM tablespace and
also a performance degradation. But why is one additional rollback segment
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Re: exp error

2002-01-07 Thread hemantchitale

You cannot use the exp program of a higher RDBMS version against
a lower database.  [You can do it the other way round, exp from a lower
version against a higher database, provided you have run the appropriate
catexp?.sql script].

See Note 132904.1 on MetaLink.

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I run exp from my local db client 8.1.7 to exp an oracle 8.1.6 db USERS to
my database...
but this error come out ??

I just issue an command : exp sks/sks@prod1 ..  ..but this error message
come out for all the tables I going to export...
I try in the prod1 database workstation and issue the same command..exp
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Why is this happen ??

EXP-8: ORACLE error 904 encountered
ORA-00904: invalid column name
. . exporting table   AD01MAST


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RE: Why metastink {or fetidstink !} ??

2002-01-06 Thread hemantchitale



I am currently satisfied with MetaLink 2.0 -- I use it generally to search
for information.

I hope the upgrade with Oracle's own CRM products would not be as
non-working
as the first few maintenance releases of 11i were supposed to be.

Wonder what feedback prompted Oracle to decide upgrade (or rewrite !!)
MetaLink -- and why we cannot provide ratings in the upgraded version.


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Well soon you'll have to make up a new term because Oracle is re-writing it
and renaming it to something like eSupport and TAR's will become SR's.
Supposedly Oracle is going to use their own CRM product for support. I
asked
if we the end users will be able to rate the answers and the analysts like
other CRM software does and was told that that feature wasn't planned until
the second release of the product. :-( Still it's comforting to know that
we
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feel free to use the correct term, and i'll feel free to use metalstink :)

joe


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 fetidstink) ?
 The only problem I have with MetaLink is that patch downloads fail
mid-way
 [yes, this is
 a stink problem particularly when I have downtime on the server but
don't
 have a patch ready !].

 Let's be gracious and use the proper name MetaLink.

 [yeah, Larry could be God Larry or King Larry].

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Why metastink {or fetidstink !} ??

2002-01-03 Thread hemantchitale



Why do a large number of postings refer to MetaLink as MetaStink  (or
fetidstink) ?
The only problem I have with MetaLink is that patch downloads fail mid-way
[yes, this is
a stink problem particularly when I have downtime on the server but don't
have a patch ready !].

Let's be gracious and use the proper name MetaLink.

[yeah, Larry could be God Larry or King Larry].

Comments / brickbats [/boquets] anyone ?

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RE: oracle not available ???

2002-01-02 Thread hemantchitale

A Cold Backup is always a Full backup --- all datafiles (and, highly
recommended, all control files
and redo log files).
Did you shutdown the database twice but only backup 6 files each time ?
How many log switches
occurred between the first backup and the second ?  If the transactions are
still in the online redo logs,
you might try a recovery.

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Hi list

I have a database recovery problem.

The scenario is like this

a) My database is not in archive mode.
b) I have taken a cold back up on two different times. 6 data files in
the morning and 6 in the evening. In between the database was started
and again
Was shutdown before taking back up in the evening.

I want to recover the database completely but I don't mind losing the
data of the period between the back ups.

Can any one have solution.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Exp problem

2001-12-23 Thread hemantchitale


If your database is 8.1.5, you need to use the 8.1.5 exp client.  Run
exp from an 8.1.5
ORACLE_HOME (you could use the same ORACLE_HOME as the database itself).

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EXP-00037-  export views not compatible with database version .. ?

How can I resolve it ?

Currently I'm using Oracle 8.1.7...the database I wanted to exp is on
8.1.5...

I try to trigger the compatiable parameter in the init.ora to 8.1.1.but
still don't work ..???

Any advice ?

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RE: Help

2001-12-20 Thread hemantchitale

The Patch for 1967363 on 8.1.7.2/8.1.7.2.1 has been out for some time now.
(the patch
will not be released for 8.1.7.1 or 8.1.7.0)
I do have an 8.1.7.1 instance running and am waiting for scheduled downtime
to upgrade
to 8.1.7.2.1 + 1967363 on Tru64.
This instance is only a test environment and, yet, I see high wait-time
ratios for cache buffer chains latch
in the PerfStat reports.

(On Solaris it is only 8.1.7.2 -- 8.1.7.2.1 was released only on certain
platforms to replace a
defective 8.1.7.2 which would not upgrade 8.1.7.1 to 8.1.7.2).

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FYI

Thank you,

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Scott,

The cache buffer chains issue, I'm pretty sure that I've seen that on some
of our 8.1.6.2 and 8.1.6.3 systems. But I do not recall if the issue was
damaging or not.

So, 8.1.7.2.1 does not have this resolved, and I need to go to 8.1.7.3 ?

Thank you,

Paul Sherman
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I heard that!  We got bit on 8.1.7.1 by a 'Cache Buffer Chains' latch
contention bug (bug 1967363) that is not fixed until 8.1.7.3 or 9.0.2.  The
releases are supposed to be out in January, IIRC.

--Scott


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I am still waiting for Oracle 8.1.7.3 final release for 8.1.  Then start
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FYI, my understanding is that 8.1.7.2.0 has problems, and that 8.1.7.2.1 is
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If you are running 8.1.7.1, it has memory leak problem.  Need to upgrade to
8.1.7.2.0.



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Your SGA has become fragmented.  You would not per chance be running
8.1.7 would you?  If so I would go and do some searching on Metalink.
I see an upgrade in your future.  You could try flushing the SGA but
if its what I think it is it won't help.  A restart will for a while.


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Any idea what this means ?


Error accessing package DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO
ERROR:
ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4096 bytes of shared memory (shared
pool,BEGIN
DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO,PL/SQL MPCODE,BAMIMA: Bam Buffer)


Begin
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4096 bytes of shared memory (shared
pool,OLWEAREPORTS,PL/SQL MPCODE,BAMIMA: Bam Buffer)
ORA-06508: PL/SQL: could not find program unit being called
ORA-06512: at line 3


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Re: Revert from 8.1.6 to 8.0.5

2001-12-18 Thread hemantchitale


Check out the Chapter on downgrading in the 8i Migration manual
The 8.1.6 manual pages are still online at
http://otn.oracle.com/doc/oracle8i_816/server.816/a76957/migdowng.htm#15124

You need to remove whatever 8i features you may have implemented that are
not available in 8.0.5
Depending on what changes you may have made, you may or may not be able to
downgrade.  Try
the downgrade on reviewing the doc. It would be faster than rebuilding the
database (unless the upgrade
from 8.0.5 to 8.1.6 was itself a rebuild !!).


Hemant K Chitale
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Looks like we have to revert an 8.1.6 database that was upgraded over the
weekend back to 8.0.5, but we need to export/import so we don't lose data
from the last 2 days.  Anything I need to know?  The plan is to export
using
the 8.0.5 export utility before importing back into 8.0.5.  Does this make
sense?

Thanks,

Ed


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RE: hard disk configuration question

2001-12-18 Thread hemantchitale


Resending the email  (it bounced back with a locking problem) at fatcity.
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CHITALE Hemant Krishnarao/Prin DBA/CSM/ST Group19/12/2001 11:07 AM

Where are you putting the RDBMS and application code ?  Best mirror the two
internal disks and put the RDBMS and application code there.
You could also consider putting your Redo Logs --- particularly if you have
a RAID-5
array, it would definitely be better to put your Redo Logs on mirrored
disks seperate
from the database files.

How naive and honest the engineer was 

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 Well we had our meeting with the Hitachi Sales critter, and engineer.  I
discovered that they were trying to push a 5 disk raid array and one hot
spare at us, because my IT director was really trying to squeeze them on
the
price of my 10 18GB disk configuration.  After the sales guy and engineer
went on about how their 4 separate IO paths would make our raid 5 perform
as
well as any mirrored pair, I got to ask a few questions.  Well it turns out
that their RAID performs that well with extra large database block sizes.
When I pointed out that we currently have a block size of 2k(I didn't build
the db), and would be rebuilding the database on the new platform with 8k
blocks, he said that with a small block size like 8k you will really get
the best performance out of mirrors or a 1+0.  I am sure the sales guy
kicked him under the table ;-).

The end result is this.  We will probably go with the 6 36 GB DISKS.  It
flat out comes down to the cost of the whole system is just a little over
budget, and the drives are where the adjustment gets made.  I suspect that
I
will have much less trouble getting a few extra disks once the system is in
the building.  I may also mess with things a bit and configure a 1+0 and a
mirrored pair.

So after that discussion, and all your helpful input I still have two
questions.

First what use are the two internal drives that aren't in the disk array?
Someone suggested to WRT them, and I am not familiar with that term.
Again I am not sure I want to mirror them, and if they aren't redundant how
useful can they really be?

Second.  If an 8k database block size is tiny, what is a large database
block size?  8k is as large as I can go without raw file systems, isn't it?

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Re: Different clocks for different instances.

2001-12-18 Thread hemantchitale


Resending.

Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
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Change the TZ variable in the Unix environment and restart the instance.
My guess
is that it should work.

Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
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Gooday Oraclers,
is it possible to have different instances, on the same dB server,
operating with different clocks - ie different date/times?


Environment: Compaq-Digital Tru64 Unix, Oracle 8.0.6, DS20

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Oracle 8.1.7 desupport date

2001-12-12 Thread hemantchitale


Oracle has announced ECS ends on 31-December-2003 for 8.1.7

I had expected 8.1.7 to continue to mid-2004  (it was released early/mid
2000 ?
and is the terminal 8i release).

Is there any possibility that the ECS date would be extended ?

We are just beginning to upgrade a few 7.3.4 and many 8.0.5/8.1.5/8.1.6
databases to 8.1.7 and are not yet looking at 9.0.1

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Oracle 8.1.7 desupport date -- announced as Dec 2003

2001-12-12 Thread hemantchitale



Oracle has announced ECS ends on 31-December-2003 for 8.1.7

I had expected 8.1.7 to continue to mid-2004  (it was released early/mid
2000 ?
and is the terminal 8i release).

Is there any possibility that the ECS date would be extended ? What's your
feel / experience with previous desupport notices ?

We are just beginning to upgrade a few 7.3.4 and many 8.0.5/8.1.5/8.1.6
databases to 8.1.7 and are not yet looking at 9.0.1

Hemant



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Re: how delete myfile* in unix

2001-12-12 Thread hemantchitale

Use the \ character.
rm myfile\*

See :
apptest  cat myfile*
here is the data in the file !
apptest  ls -l my*
-rw-r--r--   1 apptest  system31 Dec 13 12:08 myfile*
apptest  cat  myfile1
this is a good file
apptest  ls -l my*
-rw-r--r--   1 apptest  system31 Dec 13 12:08 myfile*
-rw-r--r--   1 apptest  system20 Dec 13 12:08 myfile1
apptest  rm myfile\*
apptest  ls -l my*
-rw-r--r--   1 apptest  system20 Dec 13 12:08 myfile1
apptest 

Hemant



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Hi,

I accitentaly create a file with *

$  myfile*

$ ls

myfile1
myfile2
myfile3
myfile*


how to delete myfile* without delete the rest of the file

* here is not a wildcard but system see this as a wildcard


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Re: Serial# changes when rolling back

2001-12-11 Thread hemantchitale

Check this Oracle Note :

   
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
 Doc ID:   
  
 Note:1020545.102  
  
 Subject:  
  
 ORA-00026: CANNOT 
KILL SESSION; 
 SERIAL# KEEPS 
CHANGING  
 Type: 
  
 PROBLEM   
  
 Status:   
  
 PUBLISHED 
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
 Content Type: 
  
   TEXT/PLAIN  
  
 Creation Date:
  
   23-NOV-1999 
  
 Last Revision Date:   
  
   24-AUG-2000 
  
   
  
   
  
 Problem Description   
  
 ---   
  
   
  
 You have killed a 
process at
 the operating system 
level that 
 was   
  
 running a 
long-running  
 transaction.  Now, 
you are  
 trying to issue   
  
 the command:  
  
   
  
 alter system kill 
session   
 'sid, serial#';   
  
   
  
 To kill the 
associated Oracle   
 session, but you 
can't kill it. 
 You   
  
 may receive the 
following   
 error:
  
   
  
 ORA-00026:  
missing or  
  

Re: Serial# changes when rolling back

2001-12-11 Thread hemantchitale

One explanation I had heard for the combination of Sid+Serial# goes
something like this ...
say you identify a particular session to monitor ... you then decide to
kill it.
However, it could so happen that that user logged out between the time you
decided to kill the session and the time you actually killed the session
(even
if you have scripted the kill command).  When a user logs out, the Sid is
available to the next user who logs in.  Since another user might be
holding
the same Sid at the time you come around to kill the Sid, you might
actually
kill the wrong user-session.  To avoid this, the next user, getting the
same
Sid gets a different Serial# and your kill must be on Sid+Serial# together.

That still does not explain why pmon increments the Serial#, though.

Hemant



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yeah i did read this thread but still wonder why
oracle needs to use serial# column at all.  Does the
SID not gaurentee uniqueness for a session ... damn
the name says so atleast (session identifier)..

or maybe they just coded it like that and make some
use of the serial #

Deepak

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 Doc ID:

 Note:1020545.102

 Subject:

 ORA-00026: CANNOT KILL SESSION;

 SERIAL# KEEPS CHANGING

 Type:

 PROBLEM

 Status:

 PUBLISHED









 Content Type:

   TEXT/PLAIN

 Creation Date:

   23-NOV-1999

 Last Revision Date:

   24-AUG-2000





 Problem Description

 ---



 You have killed a process at

 the operating system level that

 was

 running a long-running

 transaction.  Now, you are

 trying to issue

 the command:



 alter system kill session

 'sid, serial#';



 To kill the associated Oracle

 session, but you can't kill it.

 You

 may receive the following

 error:



 ORA-00026:  missing or

 invalid session id

 Cause:  The session ID

 string specified in the ALTER

 SYSTEM

 KILL SESSION

 command was invalid, or no

 string was

 specified.

Action:  Retry the

 command with a valid session

 ID.



 In v$session, you notice that

 the serial# for the session

 keeps

 changing.  Also, pmon may be

 creating a trace file that

 keeps growing.





 Solution Description

 



 It is best to let pmon roll

 back the changes.  If you

 shutdown at this

 point, this work will still

 have to be done at the next

 startup.



 pmon is rolling back changes

 and will let the session die

 when it

 is finished.  To verify that

 work is being done, select

 used_urec

 from v$transaction.  If the

 value for this column keeps

 going down,

 then work is being done.  When

 used_urec reaches zero, then

 the

 rollback will be done, and the

 session will die.



 With Oracle8, you can list dead

 transactions by issuing the

 following query:



 select * from x$ktuxe

 where ktuxecfl='DEAD';





 Explanation

 ---



 pmon has control of the session

 and is rolling back all of the

 work

 that has been done so far.





 Search Words

 



 

Re: Set Time Zone

2001-12-11 Thread hemantchitale

Can't , not in 8i.
9i has introduced a TIMEZONE datatype where time can be reported offset by
the UTC+/- offset.

You'd have to build the logic in your application to increment/decrement
the sysdate, depending
on the user/client location (use a lookup table for location and
timezone-offset)  when fetching
the sysdate.
SYSDATE would always return the date on the server where the database
instance is running.

Hemant


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Hi Gurus,

How can I set up a time zone for each region that connect on
SAME Database 8i

Case: Database in NewYork. Clients in San Franciso, Paris ..
When they use select sysdate from dual ; ( on Client or server side )
 They should see their local time .??

Thanks in advance
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Re: Upgrade OS from Unix 2.6 to Unix 2.8 for Oracle HRMS Applications

2001-12-10 Thread hemantchitale

Quoting from the Oracle Applications Installation Update Notes Release 11i
for Sun SPARC Solaris :
This release of Oracle Applications is compatible with both Solaris 2.6
and
Solaris 2.8 operating system software. If you are using Solaris 2.8, we
recommend that after you run Rapid Install you relink all Oracle
Applications executables by choosing this option from the Maintain
Applications Files menu in AD Administration.

The Oracle Database can certainly run as is even after you upgrade from
Solaris 2.6 to 2.8.  However,
it is recommended that you relink the Database, Forms Server and Reports
Server as well.

Hemant


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Hi Gurus,

I need to update the OS from Unix 2.6 to 2.8 on my database and form
servers. We are running Oracle HRMS Applications 11I Version 11.5.1.

Has anyone done it before ? Any advice ? Please help. Thanks.

Regds,
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Re: buffer busy wait latch free ( cache buffer chain )

2001-12-05 Thread hemantchitale

I could find bug#1467575 which relates to Parallel DML hanging on executing
an
ALTER SYSTEM FLUSH SHARED_POOL.
However, as per the README of the 8.1.7.2 PatchSet, this *is* fixed in
8.1.7.2

Did you log a TAR with Oracle Support for this situation where you could
only fix it by restarting
the database ?

Hemant



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Hi,

it seems we have similar situation today. Our production db hangs suddenly.
We couldn't even login
into the db.
Before aborting oracle we found a process like svrmgrl @/tmp/sql. The
body includes single
command 'alter system flush shared_pool'.
It seems it was generated by db agent according to our job timetable in the
OEM. We recently patched
db up to 8.1.7.2 (Linux) in order to get rid of memory leak in the shared
pool...

Regards,
Ed





 One way I can say there are bunch of patches which has to be applied on
 8.1.7.2,We had nightmares out when we migrated to 8.1.7.2,There are lot
of
 work arounds which you will have to get from oracle for library
cache,cache
 buffer chains,ora 7445 errors etc etc etc..
 We had an issue like if I give the command alter system flush shared pool
 the system got hung and all you can see is library cache pin and latch
free
 waits and only option was to bring the database was bring it down.
 God I can say they have royally messed up in 8.1.7.2.


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 Subject: RE: buffer busy wait  latch free ( cache buffer chain )
 Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 23:05:19 -0800
 
 
 Your statement there are several bugs relating to waiting for
latch-free
 on cache-buffer-chains, and the possibility of the instance hanging. 
has
 me nervous.
 
 I am aware of 1967363 and have obtained the standalone patch for this to
be
 applied on top of 8.1.7.2  I have
 seen significant wait times for cache buffer chains latch in my 8.1.7.1
 test environment and am waiting for the
 environment to be released to me so that I can upgrade it to
 8.1.7.2.1+1967363  (our production is still 8.0.5 !!).
 
 What other bugs are you talking off ?
 Hemant
 
 
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 chain )
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If on 8.1.7, there are several bugs relating to waiting for latch-free
on
 cache-buffer-chains, and the possibility of the instance hanging.
 
 One is 1967363, and at least two others are still open after applying
that
 patch.
 
 Changing cache buffer latches/buckets is not mentioned in those bugs,
and
 since they are underscored, I would approach with caution.
 
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/05/01 08:30AM 
 Vivek:
  To combat the latch free- cache buffer chain problem, I would first
 check in v$latch_children if the contention is even across all cache
buffer
 chain latches. If this is the case case (most of the time it is not) , I
 would add more cache buffer latches. If this is not the case, as ARUN
 suggested, I would find out which buffers are hot and I would
investigate
 WHY they are hot. (Ussually because of a bad SQL-- you should fix them!
)
  According to BBW problem, try to identify the segment involved and
the
 cause (p1=file , p2=block and p3=cause from a 10046 trace) and then
 according to p3 there are some changes that can be done.
 
 HTH
 Diego
 
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   What are u seeing the buffer busy waits on is it for the read
 intensivity
   and latch free is showing that there are hot blocks why dont you find
 out
   the hot blocks and find what can  be done about it
  
  
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RE: simple sql problem

2001-12-04 Thread hemantchitale


If you are running it on Unix, you must escape the $ in v$instance.
thus, you would do
echo select * from v\$instance; | sqlplus system/manager

Note the \ key before the $.
Hemant


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 Even using  like this:-

echo select * from v$instance; | sqlplus system/manager

gives me the error :-

SQL select * from v
  *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00942: table or view does not exist

Though I can do the same sql statement from inside sqlplus with ease, so
why does it give table or view does not exist?

I am confused ..

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On Mon, 03 Dec 2001 21:50:17
 Ross Collado wrote:
I don't believe SQLPlus will let you run a SQL statement in the command
line
itself.  As you can see in Usage:, it doesn't have an option for this.
However, if you insist on running SQL statements in the command line
itself,
you can probably do something like (only in Unix):

sqlplus -s scott/tiger  !
select * from emp;
!

or

save your select * from emp; to a sql file and do :
sqlplus -s scott/tiger @myfile.sql

hth
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 Hello all,

 Why cannot I do :-

 sqlplus -s scott/tiger select * from emp;

 or sqlplus -s scott/tiger select * from emp;

 Both the cases I get :-

 Usage: SQLPLUS [option] [user[/password] [@host]]
[@startfile [parm1] [parm2] ...]
 where option ::= { -s | -? }
 -s for silent mode and -? to obtain version number


 What is wrong above? I need to run the query from command
 line. How do I modify this :-

 sqlplus -s scott/tiger select * from emp;


 Rgds,



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RE: buffer busy wait latch free ( cache buffer chain )

2001-12-04 Thread hemantchitale


Your statement there are several bugs relating to waiting for latch-free
on cache-buffer-chains, and the possibility of the instance hanging.  has
me nervous.

I am aware of 1967363 and have obtained the standalone patch for this to be
applied on top of 8.1.7.2  I have
seen significant wait times for cache buffer chains latch in my 8.1.7.1
test environment and am waiting for the
environment to be released to me so that I can upgrade it to
8.1.7.2.1+1967363  (our production is still 8.0.5 !!).

What other bugs are you talking off ?
Hemant


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If on 8.1.7, there are several bugs relating to waiting for latch-free on
cache-buffer-chains, and the possibility of the instance hanging.

One is 1967363, and at least two others are still open after applying that
patch.

Changing cache buffer latches/buckets is not mentioned in those bugs, and
since they are underscored, I would approach with caution.


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/05/01 08:30AM 
Vivek:
To combat the latch free- cache buffer chain problem, I would first
check in v$latch_children if the contention is even across all cache buffer
chain latches. If this is the case case (most of the time it is not) , I
would add more cache buffer latches. If this is not the case, as ARUN
suggested, I would find out which buffers are hot and I would investigate
WHY they are hot. (Ussually because of a bad SQL-- you should fix them! )
According to BBW problem, try to identify the segment involved and the
cause (p1=file , p2=block and p3=cause from a 10046 trace) and then
according to p3 there are some changes that can be done.

HTH
Diego

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 What are u seeing the buffer busy waits on is it for the read intensivity
 and latch free is showing that there are hot blocks why dont you find out
 the hot blocks and find what can  be done about it


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 In report.txt we are getting the wait
 buffer busy wait _ wait on latch free for cache buffer chain
 
 Could an excessively Large db_block_buffer cause this ?
 
 NOTE - Transaction OLTP in nature
 
 NOTE - freelists is set = 2* cpu_count
 
 Any oher advice ?
 


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Re: simple sql problem

2001-12-03 Thread hemantchitale

You can't have the SQL statements on the command line.  You must put them
in
a script file (eg myscript.sql) and execute it with the @ sign.
Thus,
sqlplus -s scott/tiger @myscript[note the SPACE between the tiger and
the @].
Hemant



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Hello all,

Why cannot I do :-

sqlplus -s scott/tiger select * from emp;

or sqlplus -s scott/tiger select * from emp;

Both the cases I get :-

Usage: SQLPLUS [option] [user[/password] [@host]]
   [@startfile [parm1] [parm2] ...]
where option ::= { -s | -? }
-s for silent mode and -? to obtain version number


What is wrong above? I need to run the query from command line. How do I
modify this :-

sqlplus -s scott/tiger select * from emp;


Rgds,



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Oracle Portal Questions

2001-12-03 Thread hemantchitale


 A couple of questions for two alternative scenarios we are looking at :

1.  One iAS f or Two Portal DBs with the same initial URL
OR
2.  Two iAS installs for two Portal DBs with the same initial URL
   
  
 We are looking at 
seperate  
 Portal databases for 
the
 Employees Portal  
  
 and the Customers 
Portal.  To   
 make them visible 
from the  
 Internet, 
  
 we would like to have 
the same  
 initial URL.  
  
   
  
 Has anyone attempted 
anything   
 like this ?  Is it 
doable ? 
   
  
 Hemant
  
   
  





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RE: Has anyone heard of Mirror Accessible?

2001-12-01 Thread hemantchitale

AFAIK, 9iDataGuard in the current release is only a Physical Standby
database
(not logical standby database).  This is similar to 8i except for the
fact that, if you
ensure that you do a clean failover-and-failback (ie have the controlfiles
and
online redo log files available) you can actually switch to and from the
standby.

Never tried it and wouldn't try it till 9.0.2 (at the minimum)

Hemant



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Can anyone confirm this?  I've been searching technet and metalink and
can't
turn up any details.

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Isn't that just in release 2 though?  My understanding is that its not out
yet.

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Ah, this sounds likely.  And it might explain why they were keen on having
us upgrade to 9i.  That's the problem with receiving the request filtered
through two additional levels of people.

Jay Miller

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9i has a new feature on standby databases that let's you run reports in
read
only while continuing the managed recovery.  I think they call it a logical
standby database.  See the 9i DataGuard manual for more information.  (I
just happened to be looking into this lately).  This might be what they are
talking about.

Best,

Ed

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 Only thing I can think of off the top of my head is a standby database
 opened in read only mode.  Its one of the purposes totted for that

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 My CIO woes continue. My manager has been told by the CIO that Oracle has
a
 product called mirror accessible which allows the database to be
mirrored
 for reporting purposes. He wants us to use this product.

 Now I'm familiar with the EMC solution, Quest's Shareplex, Oracle Standby
 and Oracle Replication but he says it isn't any of these. Any idea what
he
 might be talking about?

 Jay Miller

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