RE: Offtopic: Canada and America
WHAT!! what part of Jersey, I currently work in Iselin and live in Morristown, I can't say that the people are all that pleasant. Especially on the road, I lived in Minn/St.Paul for a couple of years, now those are some really nice folks and two wonderful cities. Kev -Original Message- Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:26 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I don't know, there's NJ and there's NJ. In my 3 years experience of North Central NJ I found it to be very pleasant. Pretty environment, nice small-town atmosphere with character in many places but with large-town availability of shops/malls/entertainment. Lots of job opportunities. I'd recommend the area, and would have no problem moving there again. (Has to be said that I've mistakenly found myself in some wrong places though!). - Mike. -Original Message- Sent: 16 March 2001 18:22 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I like NY, it's just the other 8 million people I can't stand, same thing here in Jersey! -Original Message- Carmichael Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 9:26 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L but you must come to NY as well! not just the city (although that's a requirement) but upstate NY as well. one of the things I love best about living here is that I have the energy of the city, and I can also have the beauty and peace of the mountains upstate -- all within a 2 hour drive. But then, I'm prejudiced, I've never lived outside the greater NY metropolitan area. :) From: lerobe - Lee Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Offtopic: Canada and America Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:17:38 -0800 Speaking as a neutral (English), I like both countries just fine and each has its good (and bad) points. Thoroughly enjoyed all of my trips over there (in fact, we have holidayed nowhere else since 1992) and the thing I like best was depending on where you go (in the same country), outlooks on life, habits and cultures seem to be as diverse as that between some countries. Been to British Columbia (x2) and Alberta in Canada Maine, Florida, Washington(x2), Hawaii(x2), California, Nevada and Arizona in the States. Out of the few places I have been to, I vote Vancouver No 1. I took a lot into consideration here but found it to be the place on top of all other things, where I would consider actually living and putting down roots (Honolulu was fantastic however !!). My wife wanted to live in Victoria on the Island, very pretty but a little sleepy for my liking. I've still got a hell of a lot to see and do (so little time and money). Cheers Lee -Original Message- Sent: 15 March 2001 19:06 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Where would the US be without Molsen's and Labatt's, Eh?, ya know? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L RANT Typical, a hotmail account spouting off what they know nothing about. Fact: The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada and the US. ( 7000 miles) Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Question: Name any other state that has lived peacefully beside it's neighbour with 1/10 of the population for almost 200 years? Russia and the Ukraine? China and Tibet? Germany and Denmark? It is almost 200 years because one of the defining moments of Canadian history is the War of 1812. Canadian Geopolitical Summary: We kicked America's butt. American Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Britains butt. British Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Napoleons butt. Pierre Berton's "War of 1812" and "Flames Across the Border" provide a slightly biased but relatively fair view of this conflict from the Canadian viewpoint. There are no similar British or American texts because the Canadian theatre was a very minor and trivial part of this conflict. Canadian Patriotism On Please note that this is the only war America has ever lost. To a bunch of meek and mild Canadians... /CanPat The truth is that the largest force in Canada at the time was the British army. Typically Canadian, one of our nation building moments hardly involved us. I am proud to be Canadian, I am proud to be best friends with America. Thank you, America for being our friend. Does Canada have problems, you bet. Does America have problems, more than us the poor fellows. We do not follow America, we guide it, help it, support it and party with it. And if the rest of the world was as reasonable as they are, Canada could help them too. ( Apologies to the citizens of many states I have slandered with the above comment ) Before you comment on cultures you have not experienced it would be advisable to at least visi
RE: Offtopic: Canada and America
I remember when I was about twelve my parents took me to New York City to visit, and someone on the bus saw that I had a maple leaf on my windbreaker. When they learned we were looking for a good chinese restaurant, they took the time to go to Chinatown with us and showed us where Wing Wah was. The food was excellent, and the atmosphere was just right -- the place was cramped, there were plates stacked up to the ceiling and the menus were in Chinese only, which is just what we were looking for. The New Yorkers were nice, and so we went back to New York three more times... Patrice Boivin -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 9:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Offtopic: Canada and America ooh, insult my city will ya :) people in NY are friendly -- I have never had a problem with smiling at someone and talking to them. I have had people rushing to help me when I have had a problem. Everyone I know who comes here expecting the stereotypical NYer, has been surprised to find out we don't all bite :) From: "William Beilstein" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offtopic: Canada and America Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:23:20 -0800 I'm from Syracuse myself and the city is a nice place. Everything you want without the dog eat dog attitude of a major city like New York. Most of the time people even say hello to each other on the streets, try doing that in New York 8-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/01 01:06PM Ari D Kaplan wrote: Upstate NY is great - Buffalo, Niagara Falls, Syracuse, and the best place in the world: COOPERSTOWN. (For those not familiar with baseball, this is the Baseball Hall of Fame). -Ari and the Kodak museum in rochester, and the eversion museum [housed in an award wining building by I.M.Pei] in syracuse, and the finger lakse wineries and damn i've lived here too long.;-) -- Bill Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work! -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: William Beilstein INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing
RE: Offtopic: Canada and America
Speaking as a neutral (English), I like both countries just fine and each has its good (and bad) points. Thoroughly enjoyed all of my trips over there (in fact, we have holidayed nowhere else since 1992) and the thing I like best was depending on where you go (in the same country), outlooks on life, habits and cultures seem to be as diverse as that between some countries. Been to British Columbia (x2) and Alberta in Canada Maine, Florida, Washington(x2), Hawaii(x2), California, Nevada and Arizona in the States. Out of the few places I have been to, I vote Vancouver No 1. I took a lot into consideration here but found it to be the place on top of all other things, where I would consider actually living and putting down roots (Honolulu was fantastic however !!). My wife wanted to live in Victoria on the Island, very pretty but a little sleepy for my liking. I've still got a hell of a lot to see and do (so little time and money). Cheers Lee -Original Message- Sent: 15 March 2001 19:06 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Where would the US be without Molsen's and Labatt's, Eh?, ya know? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L RANT Typical, a hotmail account spouting off what they know nothing about. Fact: The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada and the US. ( 7000 miles) Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Question: Name any other state that has lived peacefully beside it's neighbour with 1/10 of the population for almost 200 years? Russia and the Ukraine? China and Tibet? Germany and Denmark? It is almost 200 years because one of the defining moments of Canadian history is the War of 1812. Canadian Geopolitical Summary: We kicked America's butt. American Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Britains butt. British Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Napoleons butt. Pierre Berton's "War of 1812" and "Flames Across the Border" provide a slightly biased but relatively fair view of this conflict from the Canadian viewpoint. There are no similar British or American texts because the Canadian theatre was a very minor and trivial part of this conflict. Canadian Patriotism On Please note that this is the only war America has ever lost. To a bunch of meek and mild Canadians... /CanPat The truth is that the largest force in Canada at the time was the British army. Typically Canadian, one of our nation building moments hardly involved us. I am proud to be Canadian, I am proud to be best friends with America. Thank you, America for being our friend. Does Canada have problems, you bet. Does America have problems, more than us the poor fellows. We do not follow America, we guide it, help it, support it and party with it. And if the rest of the world was as reasonable as they are, Canada could help them too. ( Apologies to the citizens of many states I have slandered with the above comment ) Before you comment on cultures you have not experienced it would be advisable to at least visit there as a tourist. If you work there for a while you may even realize that what is "common knowledge" is wrong. After spending six weeks in Moscow, 2 years ago, I do not believe anything I read in the media (it is both better and worse than it is reported). And yes, there is a separate Canadian culture. (Part of which is wondering if we have a separate culture.) /RANT Sigh.., and the day after I promised Jared I would behave. Dave -- Dave Morgan Senior Database Administrator Internet Barter Inc. www.bartertrust.com 408-910-4183 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Dave Morgan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hand, Michael T INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or
RE: Offtopic: Canada and America
Hi Lee, Speaking as a neutral (English), I like both countries just fine and each has its good (and bad) points Out of the few places I have been to, I vote Vancouver No 1. As another neutral Englishman, I've only visited two places in North America, Vancouver and San Francisco, and found both places amazing. I'd be happy to live in both, if my wife would let me, and call it a draw. I'll never forget sitting on the grassy bank surrounding English Bay in Vancouver, watching the ships come in (shades of Bryan Adams), or walking across the Golden Gate bridge in San Francisco watching the billionaires yachts sailing underneath. The nearest equivalent we have in England is rowing a boat down the Thames! :-) Rgds, AndyD = [EMAIL PROTECTED] O'Reilly's "Oracle and Open Source": = http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/oracleopen/ Orac, Perl/Tk and Perl DBI Database DBA Development Tool: = http://www.perl.com/CPAN-local/modules/by-module/DBI/ANDYDUNC/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Andy Duncan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Offtopic: Canada and America
but you must come to NY as well! not just the city (although that's a requirement) but upstate NY as well. one of the things I love best about living here is that I have the energy of the city, and I can also have the beauty and peace of the mountains upstate -- all within a 2 hour drive. But then, I'm prejudiced, I've never lived outside the greater NY metropolitan area. :) From: lerobe - Lee Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Offtopic: Canada and America Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:17:38 -0800 Speaking as a neutral (English), I like both countries just fine and each has its good (and bad) points. Thoroughly enjoyed all of my trips over there (in fact, we have holidayed nowhere else since 1992) and the thing I like best was depending on where you go (in the same country), outlooks on life, habits and cultures seem to be as diverse as that between some countries. Been to British Columbia (x2) and Alberta in Canada Maine, Florida, Washington(x2), Hawaii(x2), California, Nevada and Arizona in the States. Out of the few places I have been to, I vote Vancouver No 1. I took a lot into consideration here but found it to be the place on top of all other things, where I would consider actually living and putting down roots (Honolulu was fantastic however !!). My wife wanted to live in Victoria on the Island, very pretty but a little sleepy for my liking. I've still got a hell of a lot to see and do (so little time and money). Cheers Lee -Original Message- Sent: 15 March 2001 19:06 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Where would the US be without Molsen's and Labatt's, Eh?, ya know? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L RANT Typical, a hotmail account spouting off what they know nothing about. Fact: The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada and the US. ( 7000 miles) Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Question: Name any other state that has lived peacefully beside it's neighbour with 1/10 of the population for almost 200 years? Russia and the Ukraine? China and Tibet? Germany and Denmark? It is almost 200 years because one of the defining moments of Canadian history is the War of 1812. Canadian Geopolitical Summary: We kicked America's butt. American Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Britains butt. British Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Napoleons butt. Pierre Berton's "War of 1812" and "Flames Across the Border" provide a slightly biased but relatively fair view of this conflict from the Canadian viewpoint. There are no similar British or American texts because the Canadian theatre was a very minor and trivial part of this conflict. Canadian Patriotism On Please note that this is the only war America has ever lost. To a bunch of meek and mild Canadians... /CanPat The truth is that the largest force in Canada at the time was the British army. Typically Canadian, one of our nation building moments hardly involved us. I am proud to be Canadian, I am proud to be best friends with America. Thank you, America for being our friend. Does Canada have problems, you bet. Does America have problems, more than us the poor fellows. We do not follow America, we guide it, help it, support it and party with it. And if the rest of the world was as reasonable as they are, Canada could help them too. ( Apologies to the citizens of many states I have slandered with the above comment ) Before you comment on cultures you have not experienced it would be advisable to at least visit there as a tourist. If you work there for a while you may even realize that what is "common knowledge" is wrong. After spending six weeks in Moscow, 2 years ago, I do not believe anything I read in the media (it is both better and worse than it is reported). And yes, there is a separate Canadian culture. (Part of which is wondering if we have a separate culture.) /RANT Sigh.., and the day after I promised Jared I would behave. Dave -- Dave Morgan Senior Database Administrator Internet Barter Inc. www.bartertrust.com 408-910-4183 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Dave Morgan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You
RE: Offtopic: Canada and America
Upstate NY is great - Buffalo, Niagara Falls, Syracuse, and the best place in the world: COOPERSTOWN. (For those not familiar with baseball, this is the Baseball Hall of Fame). -Ari On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Rachel Carmichael wrote: but you must come to NY as well! not just the city (although that's a requirement) but upstate NY as well. one of the things I love best about living here is that I have the energy of the city, and I can also have the beauty and peace of the mountains upstate -- all within a 2 hour drive. But then, I'm prejudiced, I've never lived outside the greater NY metropolitan area. :) From: lerobe - Lee Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Offtopic: Canada and America Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:17:38 -0800 Speaking as a neutral (English), I like both countries just fine and each has its good (and bad) points. Thoroughly enjoyed all of my trips over there (in fact, we have holidayed nowhere else since 1992) and the thing I like best was depending on where you go (in the same country), outlooks on life, habits and cultures seem to be as diverse as that between some countries. Been to British Columbia (x2) and Alberta in Canada Maine, Florida, Washington(x2), Hawaii(x2), California, Nevada and Arizona in the States. Out of the few places I have been to, I vote Vancouver No 1. I took a lot into consideration here but found it to be the place on top of all other things, where I would consider actually living and putting down roots (Honolulu was fantastic however !!). My wife wanted to live in Victoria on the Island, very pretty but a little sleepy for my liking. I've still got a hell of a lot to see and do (so little time and money). Cheers Lee -Original Message- Sent: 15 March 2001 19:06 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Where would the US be without Molsen's and Labatt's, Eh?, ya know? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L RANT Typical, a hotmail account spouting off what they know nothing about. Fact:The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada and the US. ( 7000 miles) Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Question: Name any other state that has lived peacefully beside it's neighbour with 1/10 of the population for almost 200 years? Russia and the Ukraine? China and Tibet? Germany and Denmark? It is almost 200 years because one of the defining moments of Canadian history is the War of 1812. Canadian Geopolitical Summary: We kicked America's butt. American Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Britains butt. British Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Napoleons butt. Pierre Berton's "War of 1812" and "Flames Across the Border" provide a slightly biased but relatively fair view of this conflict from the Canadian viewpoint. There are no similar British or American texts because the Canadian theatre was a very minor and trivial part of this conflict. Canadian Patriotism On Please note that this is the only war America has ever lost. To a bunch of meek and mild Canadians... /CanPat The truth is that the largest force in Canada at the time was the British army. Typically Canadian, one of our nation building moments hardly involved us. I am proud to be Canadian, I am proud to be best friends with America. Thank you, America for being our friend. Does Canada have problems, you bet. Does America have problems, more than us the poor fellows. We do not follow America, we guide it, help it, support it and party with it. And if the rest of the world was as reasonable as they are, Canada could help them too. ( Apologies to the citizens of many states I have slandered with the above comment ) Before you comment on cultures you have not experienced it would be advisable to at least visit there as a tourist. If you work there for a while you may even realize that what is "common knowledge" is wrong. After spending six weeks in Moscow, 2 years ago, I do not believe anything I read in the media (it is both better and worse than it is reported). And yes, there is a separate Canadian culture. (Part of which is wondering if we have a separate culture.) /RANT Sigh.., and the day after I promised Jared I would behave. Dave -- Dave Morgan Senior Database Administrator Internet Barter Inc. www.bartertrust.com 408-910-4183 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Dave Morgan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California
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Names for James Fenimore. It's been too long since I've been there. Maybe in a few years I can take my daughter. I've been turning her into a Red Sox fan. Little does she suspect what that means. Pretty soon I'll start teaching her 'wait until next year'. As far as visiting cities goes, I should put in a plug for the Hub (boston), but for the time being I'll just include a neat little website. www.mappingboston.com Henry -Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Upstate NY is great - Buffalo, Niagara Falls, Syracuse, and the best place in the world: COOPERSTOWN. (For those not familiar with baseball, this is the Baseball Hall of Fame). -Ari On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Rachel Carmichael wrote: but you must come to NY as well! not just the city (although that's a requirement) but upstate NY as well. one of the things I love best about living here is that I have the energy of the city, and I can also have the beauty and peace of the mountains upstate -- all within a 2 hour drive. But then, I'm prejudiced, I've never lived outside the greater NY metropolitan area. :) From: lerobe - Lee Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Offtopic: Canada and America Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:17:38 -0800 Speaking as a neutral (English), I like both countries just fine and each has its good (and bad) points. Thoroughly enjoyed all of my trips over there (in fact, we have holidayed nowhere else since 1992) and the thing I like best was depending on where you go (in the same country), outlooks on life, habits and cultures seem to be as diverse as that between some countries. Been to British Columbia (x2) and Alberta in Canada Maine, Florida, Washington(x2), Hawaii(x2), California, Nevada and Arizona in the States. Out of the few places I have been to, I vote Vancouver No 1. I took a lot into consideration here but found it to be the place on top of all other things, where I would consider actually living and putting down roots (Honolulu was fantastic however !!). My wife wanted to live in Victoria on the Island, very pretty but a little sleepy for my liking. I've still got a hell of a lot to see and do (so little time and money). Cheers Lee -Original Message- Sent: 15 March 2001 19:06 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Where would the US be without Molsen's and Labatt's, Eh?, ya know? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L RANT Typical, a hotmail account spouting off what they know nothing about. Fact:The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada and the US. ( 7000 miles) Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Question: Name any other state that has lived peacefully beside it's neighbour with 1/10 of the population for almost 200 years? Russia and the Ukraine? China and Tibet? Germany and Denmark? It is almost 200 years because one of the defining moments of Canadian history is the War of 1812. Canadian Geopolitical Summary: We kicked America's butt. American Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Britains butt. British Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Napoleons butt. Pierre Berton's "War of 1812" and "Flames Across the Border" provide a slightly biased but relatively fair view of this conflict from the Canadian viewpoint. There are no similar British or American texts because the Canadian theatre was a very minor and trivial part of this conflict. Canadian Patriotism On Please note that this is the only war America has ever lost. To a bunch of meek and mild Canadians... /CanPat The truth is that the largest force in Canada at the time was the British army. Typically Canadian, one of our nation building moments hardly involved us. I am proud to be Canadian, I am proud to be best friends with America. Thank you, America for being our friend. Does Canada have problems, you bet. Does America have problems, more than us the poor fellows. We do not follow America, we guide it, help it, support it and party with it. And if the rest of the world was as reasonable as they are, Canada could help them too. ( Apologies to the citizens of many states I have slandered with the above comment ) Before you comment on cultures you have not experienced it would be advisable to at least visit there as a tourist. If you work there for a while you may even realize that what is "common knowledge" is wrong. After spending six weeks in Moscow, 2 years ago, I do not believe anything I read in the media (it is both better and worse th
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If you are going to visit Rochester and Buffalo, then you should make the short trip to Jamestown and Chautauqua, especially during the summer when the season is in full swing at Chautauqua. Lucy fans can visit the Lucy-Desi Museum in Jamestown. "Thater, William" wrote: Ari D Kaplan wrote: Upstate NY is great - Buffalo, Niagara Falls, Syracuse, and the best place in the world: COOPERSTOWN. (For those not familiar with baseball, this is the Baseball Hall of Fame). -Ari and the Kodak museum in rochester, and the eversion museum [housed in an award wining building by I.M.Pei] in syracuse, and the finger lakse wineries and damn i've lived here too long.;-) -- Bill Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work! -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Scott Canaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it" - Tom Lehrer -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Canaan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Offtopic: Canada and America
I'm suprised nobody has mentioned arguably the two greatest Canadians: Bob and Doug McKenzie Cooo - coo coo coo coo cooo cooo cooo... - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:25 AM I was actually just in Canada recently, and I have to say I like it. As a matter of fact, I love Canada. I play hockey so that makes it easy for me, not to mention that I love their National Anthem. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 8:20 PM Canada has 30,300,000 people as of 1998. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 4:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Dave Morgan wrote: Fact: The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada and the US. ( 7000 miles) Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Well, I doubt that. With an average reach of 5 feet, it would take less than 8 million people to hold hands along the Canada/US border. You should check your math more carefully before spouting such nonsense. ;) Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jerry C INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Offtopic: Canada and America
If you like the coast you really should go check out the Atlantic provinces. The nice thing about it is you can see 4 provinces in a relatively short time span. I would definitely go in the summer though (unless you are a huge fan of snow). -Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:18 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Speaking as a neutral (English), I like both countries just fine and each has its good (and bad) points. Thoroughly enjoyed all of my trips over there (in fact, we have holidayed nowhere else since 1992) and the thing I like best was depending on where you go (in the same country), outlooks on life, habits and cultures seem to be as diverse as that between some countries. Been to British Columbia (x2) and Alberta in Canada Maine, Florida, Washington(x2), Hawaii(x2), California, Nevada and Arizona in the States. Out of the few places I have been to, I vote Vancouver No 1. I took a lot into consideration here but found it to be the place on top of all other things, where I would consider actually living and putting down roots (Honolulu was fantastic however !!). My wife wanted to live in Victoria on the Island, very pretty but a little sleepy for my liking. I've still got a hell of a lot to see and do (so little time and money). Cheers Lee -Original Message- Sent: 15 March 2001 19:06 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Where would the US be without Molsen's and Labatt's, Eh?, ya know? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L RANT Typical, a hotmail account spouting off what they know nothing about. Fact: The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada and the US. ( 7000 miles) Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Question: Name any other state that has lived peacefully beside it's neighbour with 1/10 of the population for almost 200 years? Russia and the Ukraine? China and Tibet? Germany and Denmark? It is almost 200 years because one of the defining moments of Canadian history is the War of 1812. Canadian Geopolitical Summary: We kicked America's butt. American Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Britains butt. British Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Napoleons butt. Pierre Berton's "War of 1812" and "Flames Across the Border" provide a slightly biased but relatively fair view of this conflict from the Canadian viewpoint. There are no similar British or American texts because the Canadian theatre was a very minor and trivial part of this conflict. Canadian Patriotism On Please note that this is the only war America has ever lost. To a bunch of meek and mild Canadians... /CanPat The truth is that the largest force in Canada at the time was the British army. Typically Canadian, one of our nation building moments hardly involved us. I am proud to be Canadian, I am proud to be best friends with America. Thank you, America for being our friend. Does Canada have problems, you bet. Does America have problems, more than us the poor fellows. We do not follow America, we guide it, help it, support it and party with it. And if the rest of the world was as reasonable as they are, Canada could help them too. ( Apologies to the citizens of many states I have slandered with the above comment ) Before you comment on cultures you have not experienced it would be advisable to at least visit there as a tourist. If you work there for a while you may even realize that what is "common knowledge" is wrong. After spending six weeks in Moscow, 2 years ago, I do not believe anything I read in the media (it is both better and worse than it is reported). And yes, there is a separate Canadian culture. (Part of which is wondering if we have a separate culture.) /RANT Sigh.., and the day after I promised Jared I would behave. Dave -- Dave Morgan Senior Database Administrator Internet Barter Inc. www.bartertrust.com 408-910-4183 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Dave Morgan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hand, Michael T INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051
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Ari D Kaplan wrote: Upstate NY is great - Buffalo, Niagara Falls, Syracuse, and the best place in the world: COOPERSTOWN. (For those not familiar with baseball, this is the Baseball Hall of Fame). -Ari and the Kodak museum in rochester, and the eversion museum [housed in an award wining building by I.M.Pei] in syracuse, and the finger lakse wineries and damn i've lived here too long.;-) -- Bill Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work! -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Offtopic: Canada and America
Title: RE: Offtopic: Canada and America Red Sox Fan? Wait til next year? Ha! Try being a die hard Cubs fan. Do they still play the blues in Chicago when baseball season rolls around? - A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doing linear scans over an associative array is like trying to club someone to death with a loaded Uzi. - Larry Wall (creator of Perl) -Original Message- From: Henry Poras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 2:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Offtopic: Canada and America Names for James Fenimore. It's been too long since I've been there. Maybe in a few years I can take my daughter. I've been turning her into a Red Sox fan. Little does she suspect what that means. Pretty soon I'll start teaching her 'wait until next year'. As far as visiting cities goes, I should put in a plug for the Hub (boston), but for the time being I'll just include a neat little website. www.mappingboston.com Henry -Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Upstate NY is great - Buffalo, Niagara Falls, Syracuse, and the best place in the world: COOPERSTOWN. (For those not familiar with baseball, this is the Baseball Hall of Fame). -Ari On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Rachel Carmichael wrote: but you must come to NY as well! not just the city (although that's a requirement) but upstate NY as well. one of the things I love best about living here is that I have the energy of the city, and I can also have the beauty and peace of the mountains upstate -- all within a 2 hour drive. But then, I'm prejudiced, I've never lived outside the greater NY metropolitan area. :) From: lerobe - Lee Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Offtopic: Canada and America Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:17:38 -0800 Speaking as a neutral (English), I like both countries just fine and each has its good (and bad) points. Thoroughly enjoyed all of my trips over there (in fact, we have holidayed nowhere else since 1992) and the thing I like best was depending on where you go (in the same country), outlooks on life, habits and cultures seem to be as diverse as that between some countries. Been to British Columbia (x2) and Alberta in Canada Maine, Florida, Washington(x2), Hawaii(x2), California, Nevada and Arizona in the States. Out of the few places I have been to, I vote Vancouver No 1. I took a lot into consideration here but found it to be the place on top of all other things, where I would consider actually living and putting down roots (Honolulu was fantastic however !!). My wife wanted to live in Victoria on the Island, very pretty but a little sleepy for my liking. I've still got a hell of a lot to see and do (so little time and money). Cheers Lee -Original Message- Sent: 15 March 2001 19:06 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Where would the US be without Molsen's and Labatt's, Eh?, ya know? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L RANT Typical, a hotmail account spouting off what they know nothing about. Fact: The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada and the US. ( 7000 miles) Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Question: Name any other state that has lived peacefully beside it's neighbour with 1/10 of the population for almost 200 years? Russia and the Ukraine? China and Tibet? Germany and Denmark? It is almost 200 years because one of the defining moments of Canadian history is the War of 1812. Canadian Geopolitical Summary: We kicked America's butt. American Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Britains butt. British Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Napoleons butt. Pierre Berton's War of 1812 and Flames Across the Border provide a slightly biased but relatively fair view of this conflict from the Canadian viewpoint. There are no similar British or American texts because the Canadian theatre was a very minor and trivial part of this conflict. Canadian Patriotism On Please note that this is the only war America has ever lost. To a bunch of meek and mild Canadians... /CanPat The truth is that the largest force in Canada at the time was the British army. Typically Canadian, one of our nation building moments hardly involved us. I am proud to be Canadian, I am proud to be best friends with America. Thank you, America for being our friend. Does Canada
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I once did a year assignment in Syracuse. Luckily I did not get shot ;) Seriously, it is a beautiful town. Got exposed to some American culture. WWF, National Bowling Championship, Golden Glove Boxing Championship, and the like. Plus Skaneateles recently won the US "Olympics of the Mind" competition. Well, I happily in downtown Chicago now. -Ari On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Kevin Kostyszyn wrote: No way, you'd probably get shot. -Original Message- Beilstein Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 4:23 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'm from Syracuse myself and the city is a nice place. Everything you want without the dog eat dog attitude of a major city like New York. Most of the time people even say hello to each other on the streets, try doing that in New York 8-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/01 01:06PM Ari D Kaplan wrote: Upstate NY is great - Buffalo, Niagara Falls, Syracuse, and the best place in the world: COOPERSTOWN. (For those not familiar with baseball, this is the Baseball Hall of Fame). -Ari and the Kodak museum in rochester, and the eversion museum [housed in an award wining building by I.M.Pei] in syracuse, and the finger lakse wineries and damn i've lived here too long.;-) -- Bill Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work! -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: William Beilstein INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ari D Kaplan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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ooh, insult my city will ya :) people in NY are friendly -- I have never had a problem with smiling at someone and talking to them. I have had people rushing to help me when I have had a problem. Everyone I know who comes here expecting the stereotypical NYer, has been surprised to find out we don't all bite :) From: "William Beilstein" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offtopic: Canada and America Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:23:20 -0800 I'm from Syracuse myself and the city is a nice place. Everything you want without the dog eat dog attitude of a major city like New York. Most of the time people even say hello to each other on the streets, try doing that in New York 8-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/01 01:06PM Ari D Kaplan wrote: Upstate NY is great - Buffalo, Niagara Falls, Syracuse, and the best place in the world: COOPERSTOWN. (For those not familiar with baseball, this is the Baseball Hall of Fame). -Ari and the Kodak museum in rochester, and the eversion museum [housed in an award wining building by I.M.Pei] in syracuse, and the finger lakse wineries and damn i've lived here too long.;-) -- Bill Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work! -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: William Beilstein INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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Thats what we liked about Vancouver. Although not so much energy as the City of New York I think. Believe me, we will visit NY, if only to keep my wife happy, she is desperate to go there. -Original Message- Sent: 16 March 2001 14:26 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L but you must come to NY as well! not just the city (although that's a requirement) but upstate NY as well. one of the things I love best about living here is that I have the energy of the city, and I can also have the beauty and peace of the mountains upstate -- all within a 2 hour drive. But then, I'm prejudiced, I've never lived outside the greater NY metropolitan area. :) From: lerobe - Lee Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Offtopic: Canada and America Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:17:38 -0800 Speaking as a neutral (English), I like both countries just fine and each has its good (and bad) points. Thoroughly enjoyed all of my trips over there (in fact, we have holidayed nowhere else since 1992) and the thing I like best was depending on where you go (in the same country), outlooks on life, habits and cultures seem to be as diverse as that between some countries. Been to British Columbia (x2) and Alberta in Canada Maine, Florida, Washington(x2), Hawaii(x2), California, Nevada and Arizona in the States. Out of the few places I have been to, I vote Vancouver No 1. I took a lot into consideration here but found it to be the place on top of all other things, where I would consider actually living and putting down roots (Honolulu was fantastic however !!). My wife wanted to live in Victoria on the Island, very pretty but a little sleepy for my liking. I've still got a hell of a lot to see and do (so little time and money). Cheers Lee -Original Message- Sent: 15 March 2001 19:06 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Where would the US be without Molsen's and Labatt's, Eh?, ya know? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L RANT Typical, a hotmail account spouting off what they know nothing about. Fact: The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada and the US. ( 7000 miles) Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Question: Name any other state that has lived peacefully beside it's neighbour with 1/10 of the population for almost 200 years? Russia and the Ukraine? China and Tibet? Germany and Denmark? It is almost 200 years because one of the defining moments of Canadian history is the War of 1812. Canadian Geopolitical Summary: We kicked America's butt. American Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Britains butt. British Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Napoleons butt. Pierre Berton's "War of 1812" and "Flames Across the Border" provide a slightly biased but relatively fair view of this conflict from the Canadian viewpoint. There are no similar British or American texts because the Canadian theatre was a very minor and trivial part of this conflict. Canadian Patriotism On Please note that this is the only war America has ever lost. To a bunch of meek and mild Canadians... /CanPat The truth is that the largest force in Canada at the time was the British army. Typically Canadian, one of our nation building moments hardly involved us. I am proud to be Canadian, I am proud to be best friends with America. Thank you, America for being our friend. Does Canada have problems, you bet. Does America have problems, more than us the poor fellows. We do not follow America, we guide it, help it, support it and party with it. And if the rest of the world was as reasonable as they are, Canada could help them too. ( Apologies to the citizens of many states I have slandered with the above comment ) Before you comment on cultures you have not experienced it would be advisable to at least visit there as a tourist. If you work there for a while you may even realize that what is "common knowledge" is wrong. After spending six weeks in Moscow, 2 years ago, I do not believe anything I read in the media (it is both better and worse than it is reported). And yes, there is a separate Canadian culture. (Part of which is wondering if we have a separate culture.) /RANT Sigh.., and the day after I promised Jared I would behave. Dave -- Dave Morgan Senior Database Administrator Internet Barter Inc. www.bartertrust.com 408-910-4183 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Dave Morgan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public I
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LOL - great rant! I especially liked: We do not follow America, we guide it, help it, support it and party with it. And we especially like the "party" part - y'all do it so well! If anyone hasn't experienced it, do so if you get a chance: most of the Canadians I've met are simply a riot! - Christy -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L RANT Typical, a hotmail account spouting off what they know nothing about. Fact: The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada and the US. ( 7000 miles) Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Question: Name any other state that has lived peacefully beside it's neighbour with 1/10 of the population for almost 200 years? Russia and the Ukraine? China and Tibet? Germany and Denmark? It is almost 200 years because one of the defining moments of Canadian history is the War of 1812. Canadian Geopolitical Summary: We kicked America's butt. American Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Britains butt. British Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Napoleons butt. Pierre Berton's "War of 1812" and "Flames Across the Border" provide a slightly biased but relatively fair view of this conflict from the Canadian viewpoint. There are no similar British or American texts because the Canadian theatre was a very minor and trivial part of this conflict. Canadian Patriotism On Please note that this is the only war America has ever lost. To a bunch of meek and mild Canadians... /CanPat The truth is that the largest force in Canada at the time was the British army. Typically Canadian, one of our nation building moments hardly involved us. I am proud to be Canadian, I am proud to be best friends with America. Thank you, America for being our friend. Does Canada have problems, you bet. Does America have problems, more than us the poor fellows. We do not follow America, we guide it, help it, support it and party with it. And if the rest of the world was as reasonable as they are, Canada could help them too. ( Apologies to the citizens of many states I have slandered with the above comment ) Before you comment on cultures you have not experienced it would be advisable to at least visit there as a tourist. If you work there for a while you may even realize that what is "common knowledge" is wrong. After spending six weeks in Moscow, 2 years ago, I do not believe anything I read in the media (it is both better and worse than it is reported). And yes, there is a separate Canadian culture. (Part of which is wondering if we have a separate culture.) /RANT Sigh.., and the day after I promised Jared I would behave. Dave -- Dave Morgan Senior Database Administrator Internet Barter Inc. www.bartertrust.com 408-910-4183 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Dave Morgan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Warthling, Christy INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Offtopic: Canada and America
I have to agree that the Canadians are a friendly and helpful group of people. The last time I visited my father's home town of Grand Banks, "Newfy Land". I had a wonderful experience. The Cod fish were biting and we filled a boat to capacity. At the dock we were giving fresh fish away to anyone that wanted some. They all were used and no one went without. For the remainder of the next 2 weeks we were invited into every's household and treated as a friend and neighbor. Commodities are expensive on the "rock" but we were offered more that we had given. Canada is a great place and "O'Canada" is a great piece of music and anthem ROR mm -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Offtopic: Canada and America
Where would the US be without Molsen's and Labatt's, Eh?, ya know? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L RANT Typical, a hotmail account spouting off what they know nothing about. Fact: The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada and the US. ( 7000 miles) Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Question: Name any other state that has lived peacefully beside it's neighbour with 1/10 of the population for almost 200 years? Russia and the Ukraine? China and Tibet? Germany and Denmark? It is almost 200 years because one of the defining moments of Canadian history is the War of 1812. Canadian Geopolitical Summary: We kicked America's butt. American Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Britains butt. British Geopolitical Summary: We kicked Napoleons butt. Pierre Berton's "War of 1812" and "Flames Across the Border" provide a slightly biased but relatively fair view of this conflict from the Canadian viewpoint. There are no similar British or American texts because the Canadian theatre was a very minor and trivial part of this conflict. Canadian Patriotism On Please note that this is the only war America has ever lost. To a bunch of meek and mild Canadians... /CanPat The truth is that the largest force in Canada at the time was the British army. Typically Canadian, one of our nation building moments hardly involved us. I am proud to be Canadian, I am proud to be best friends with America. Thank you, America for being our friend. Does Canada have problems, you bet. Does America have problems, more than us the poor fellows. We do not follow America, we guide it, help it, support it and party with it. And if the rest of the world was as reasonable as they are, Canada could help them too. ( Apologies to the citizens of many states I have slandered with the above comment ) Before you comment on cultures you have not experienced it would be advisable to at least visit there as a tourist. If you work there for a while you may even realize that what is "common knowledge" is wrong. After spending six weeks in Moscow, 2 years ago, I do not believe anything I read in the media (it is both better and worse than it is reported). And yes, there is a separate Canadian culture. (Part of which is wondering if we have a separate culture.) /RANT Sigh.., and the day after I promised Jared I would behave. Dave -- Dave Morgan Senior Database Administrator Internet Barter Inc. www.bartertrust.com 408-910-4183 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Dave Morgan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hand, Michael T INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Offtopic: Canada and America
Dave Morgan wrote: Sigh.., and the day after I promised Jared I would behave. Dave uh, dave... we knew better, eh?;-) -- Bill Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work! -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Offtopic: Canada and America
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Dave Morgan wrote: Fact: The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada and the US. ( 7000 miles) Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Well, I doubt that. With an average reach of 5 feet, it would take less than 8 million people to hold hands along the Canada/US border. You should check your math more carefully before spouting such nonsense. ;) Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Offtopic: Canada and America
Canada has 30,300,000 people as of 1998. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 4:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Dave Morgan wrote: Fact: The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada and the US. ( 7000 miles) Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Well, I doubt that. With an average reach of 5 feet, it would take less than 8 million people to hold hands along the Canada/US border. You should check your math more carefully before spouting such nonsense. ;) Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Offtopic: Canada and America
Title: RE: Offtopic: Canada and America -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Dave Morgan wrote: Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Well, I doubt that. With an average reach of 5 feet, it would take less than 8 million people to hold hands along the Canada/US border. What about the lakes? I doubt that even in wintertime the great lakes would be completely frozen over.
Re: Offtopic: Canada and America
I was actually just in Canada recently, and I have to say I like it. As a matter of fact, I love Canada. I play hockey so that makes it easy for me, not to mention that I love their National Anthem. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 8:20 PM Canada has 30,300,000 people as of 1998. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 4:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Dave Morgan wrote: Fact: The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada and the US. ( 7000 miles) Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold hands. Well, I doubt that. With an average reach of 5 feet, it would take less than 8 million people to hold hands along the Canada/US border. You should check your math more carefully before spouting such nonsense. ;) Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
