Re: Tech meetings

2003-07-11 Thread Hemant K Chitale


I agree that Regularly Irregular meetings make more sense for people with
tech jobs.
Makes the meetings less boring and predictable.
hemant
At 11:39 PM 08-07-03 -0800, you wrote:
I've found both as a manager in
Oracle and in Miracle that if you schedule regular meetings with the guys
(and girls), then they start not showing up after a while, or the
meetings become boring. If you don't hold regular meetings they'll
complain and wish for regular meetings.
So I've come up with this model:
1st meeting
2nd meeting after a week
3rd meeting after two weeks
4th meeting after four weeks
5th meeting after eight weeks (around here or at next iteration they
start complaining...)
6th meeting after a week...
7th meeting after two weeks...
Mvh Mogens
Babette Turner-Underwood wrote:
From
time to time, we go through a series of show and tell where
people do about an hour long presentation, question and answer on some
usually technical topic. Occasionally these presentations are business
related (eg explaining how the Canada Pension Plan international
agreements affects the programs we are doing).

They die off, then the director resurrects
them by asking for volunteers. Occasionally, people are told to do a
presentation on a specific work -related topic.

- 
Babette

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From:
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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Tech meetings

Don't know if what we do in our shop here qualifies for your question or not, but our dev groups do stand-up meetings. Relatively quick meetings (that can be done standing up; no meeting rooms required) that are usually finished in about 20 minutes. In the stand-ups, we get heads-up for things and specifications that might be coming down the pipeline from the product management and design side. We get a quick update on the state of deployment (what version has rolled into production, what version is in the QA pipeline) and what the next impending set of changes are about to get pushed onto the dev servers. If there's any potential gotchas that have been experienced (especially on the coding front) they get publicized in the stand-ups as well.

The main point of our stand-ups are to make sure that all the developers are relatively aware of the scheduling and direction of the product, and to highlight any programming difficulties and workarounds that might arise so that when different developers hit those gotchas, they'll already know that a solution might already.

These stand-up meetings are basically within a development team/group. Project leads have their own meetings with the product management group. So essentially, the product manager has his own meetings; then the product manager has meetings with the dev project leads to convey what they want in the next iteration of the product; the project leads then present these to the dev group in a stand-up meeting.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:30 PM
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Subject: Tech meetings

List,

Just wondering if your organization has tech meetings, and what is discussed and what the goals of the meetings are?

I've been asked about this, and was wondering if there is a quick list out there any where.

TIA 



Hemant K Chitale
Oracle 9i Database Administrator Certified Professional
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RE: Tech meetings

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Re: Tech meetings

2003-07-09 Thread Mogens Nørgaard




I've found both as a manager in Oracle and in Miracle that if you schedule
regular meetings with the guys (and girls), then they start not showing up
after a while, or the meetings become boring. If you don't hold regular meetings
they'll complain and wish for regular meetings.

So I've come up with this model:

1st meeting
2nd meeting after a week
3rd meeting after two weeks
4th meeting after four weeks
5th meeting after eight weeks (around here or at next iteration they start
complaining...)
6th meeting after a week...
7th meeting after two weeks...

Mvh Mogens

Babette Turner-Underwood wrote:

  Message
  
  
 
  
 
  From  time to time, we go through a series of "show
and tell" where people do about an  hour long presentation, question and
answer on some usually technical topic.  Occasionally these presentations
are business related (eg explaining how the  Canada Pension Plan international
agreements affects the programs we are  doing).
 
  
 
  They  die off, then the director resurrects them
by asking for volunteers.  Occasionally, people are told to do a presentation
on a specific work -related  topic.
 
  
 
  -  
 
  Babette
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Rudy Zung
Sent:Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Multiple recipients of listORACLE-L
    Subject: RE: Tech meetings


   
Don't know if what we do in our shop here qualifies
   for your question or not, but our dev groups do "stand-up meetings."  
 Relatively quick meetings (that can be done standing up; no meeting rooms
   required) that are usually finished in about 20 minutes. In the stand-ups,
weget heads-up for things and specifications that might be coming down
thepipeline from the product management and design side. We get a quick
update onthe state of deployment (what version has rolled into production,
what versionis in the QA pipeline) and what the next impending set of
changes are about toget pushed onto the dev servers. If there's any potential
"gotcha"s that havebeen experienced (especially on the coding front)
they get publicized in thestand-ups as well.
   

   
Themain point of our stand-ups are to make
sure that all the developers arerelatively aware of the scheduling and
direction of the product, and tohighlight any programming difficulties
and workarounds that might arise sothat when different developers hit
those gotchas, they'll already know that asolution might already.
   

   
These stand-up meetings are basically within
adevelopment team/group. Project leads have their own meetings with the
productmanagement group. So essentially, the product manager has his
own meetings;then the product manager has meetings with the dev project
leads to conveywhat they want in the next iteration of the product; the
project leads thenpresent these to the dev group in a stand-up meeting.
   
  
  -Original Message-
  From: M.Godlewski  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:30  PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject:  Tech meetings
  
  
 
  List,
 
  
 
  Just wondering if your organization has tech meetings, and what
is  discussed and what the goals of the meetings are?
 
  
 
  I've been asked about this, and was wondering if there is a quick
list  out there any where.
 
  
 
  TIA
 
  

  






RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-09 Thread Weaver, Walt
Hey Jeff, just out of curiousity, do you guys all get company cars?

--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana

 -Original Message-
 From: Eberhard, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:35 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Tech meetings
 
 When I first began working here years ago we had a scheduled lunch
 meeting/training every Friday for the IS Department.  Lunch was
provided
 and
 someone was given the task to present some technical topic.  A lot of
 times
 it was watching a training video, such as a training video for Visual
 Basic.
 Eventually it died because the guy scheduling the meetings had left
the
 company.  Every once in a while we try to resurrect the Weekly
Training
 Meeting.  My current boss (which was an employee turned manager)
wants to
 have the meetings but doesn't want to provide the lunch.  Guess what?
No
 one shows up after the first meeting.  It's amazing what an incentive
a
 little bit of food is.
 
 --Jeff
 
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RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-09 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
I never liked those 'Power Lunch' meetings, even if the lunch was provided by the 
employer ( back
when they had budgets for thost things :)
 
I always believed, and still do, that those '30-minutes' are for me. It's my lunch 
time. It's time
for a break from the non-stop work. And while I am eating my lunch, I would like to 
enjoy it
without any distractions. Needless to say, I never attended those 'brown bag lunch' 
meetings! In
my previous job, our boss tried an early morning 'breakfast' meetings (at 6:30am). He 
was the only
one who showed up with 2-dz donuts!  We ate those for lunch :) 

In my current job, we had 'alternate Friday' DBA tech meetings with circulating 'donut 
duty'. That
lasted for a few months.. when we discussed some techie DBA things.. But, as workload 
grew, prople
would show up to pickup their donut and head back to their cubes... Past several 
years, we just do
our 'donut duty'. For any pressing techie issue, we just gather around cubes and get 
it over
with 

Things, and how we do our jobs, have changed over the years, as well as our 
priorities... ;) 

- Kirti   



--- Eberhard, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I first began working here years ago we had a scheduled lunch
 meeting/training every Friday for the IS Department.  Lunch was provided and
 someone was given the task to present some technical topic.  A lot of times
 it was watching a training video, such as a training video for Visual Basic.
 Eventually it died because the guy scheduling the meetings had left the
 company.  Every once in a while we try to resurrect the Weekly Training
 Meeting.  My current boss (which was an employee turned manager) wants to
 have the meetings but doesn't want to provide the lunch.  Guess what?  No
 one shows up after the first meeting.  It's amazing what an incentive a
 little bit of food is.
  
 --Jeff
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:39 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I've found both as a manager in Oracle and in Miracle that if you schedule
 regular meetings with the guys (and girls), then they start not showing up
 after a while, or the meetings become boring. If you don't hold regular
 meetings they'll complain and wish for regular meetings.
 
 So I've come up with this model:
 
 1st meeting
 2nd meeting after a week
 3rd meeting after two weeks
 4th meeting after four weeks
 5th meeting after eight weeks (around here or at next iteration they start
 complaining...)
 6th meeting after a week...
 7th meeting after two weeks...
 
 Mvh Mogens
 
 Babette Turner-Underwood wrote:
 
 
 From time to time, we go through a series of show and tell where people do
 about an hour long presentation, question and answer on some usually
 technical topic. Occasionally these presentations are business related (eg
 explaining how the Canada Pension Plan international agreements affects the
 programs we are doing).
  
 They die off, then the director resurrects them by asking for volunteers.
 Occasionally, people are told to do a presentation on a specific work
 -related topic.
  
 - 
 Babette
 
 -Original Message-
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]On Behalf Of
 Rudy Zung
 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:05 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Don't know if what we do in our shop here qualifies for your question or
 not, but our dev groups do stand-up meetings. Relatively quick meetings
 (that can be done standing up; no meeting rooms required) that are usually
 finished in about 20 minutes. In the stand-ups, we get heads-up for things
 and specifications that might be coming down the pipeline from the product
 management and design side. We get a quick update on the state of deployment
 (what version has rolled into production, what version is in the QA
 pipeline) and what the next impending set of changes are about to get pushed
 onto the dev servers. If there's any potential gotchas that have been
 experienced (especially on the coding front) they get publicized in the
 stand-ups as well.
  
 The main point of our stand-ups are to make sure that all the developers are
 relatively aware of the scheduling and direction of the product, and to
 highlight any programming difficulties and workarounds that might arise so
 that when different developers hit those gotchas, they'll already know that
 a solution might already.
  
 These stand-up meetings are basically within a development team/group.
 Project leads have their own meetings with the product management group. So
 essentially, the product manager has his own meetings; then the product
 manager has meetings with the dev project leads to convey what they want in
 the next iteration of the product; the project leads then present these to
 the dev group in a stand-up meeting.
 
 -Original Message-
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:30 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 List,
  
 Just wondering if your 

RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-09 Thread Eberhard, Jeff
I wish.  I always get that question.  I work at a gear box manufacturing
plant which primarily manufactures gear boxes for jet engines.  Rolls-Royce
plc doesn't even make the cars anymore. In 1998 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars was
sold by Vickers to Volkswagen, although BMW hold the rights to the name and
the marque for use on Rolls-Royce cars, having acquired the rights from
Rolls-Royce plc for £40m in 1998. BMW will take over responsibility for
Rolls-Royce cars from the beginning of 2003.
http://www.rolls-royce.com/history/timeline/default.htm

Jeff Eberhard
Database Administrator
Rolls-Royce Gear Systems
Park City, Utah

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Hey Jeff, just out of curiousity, do you guys all get company cars?

--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana

 -Original Message-
 From: Eberhard, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:35 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Tech meetings
 
 When I first began working here years ago we had a scheduled lunch
 meeting/training every Friday for the IS Department.  Lunch was
provided
 and
 someone was given the task to present some technical topic.  A lot of
 times
 it was watching a training video, such as a training video for Visual
 Basic.
 Eventually it died because the guy scheduling the meetings had left
the
 company.  Every once in a while we try to resurrect the Weekly
Training
 Meeting.  My current boss (which was an employee turned manager)
wants to
 have the meetings but doesn't want to provide the lunch.  Guess what?
No
 one shows up after the first meeting.  It's amazing what an incentive
a
 little bit of food is.
 
 --Jeff
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:39 AM
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RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-09 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Tech meetings





Okay ... so you don't get a car ... do you at-least get an engine once in say 5 years ?? 


Same thing happens to me, I always get the question .. Do you get tickets to all the games? the answer is a big NO. We may get to see them on our internal cable network, but unless you are good spending ($$) advertiser tickets are unlikely .. or if you win them in a contest.

Raj

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Subject: RE: Tech meetings



I wish. I always get that question. I work at a gear box manufacturing
plant which primarily manufactures gear boxes for jet engines. Rolls-Royce
plc doesn't even make the cars anymore. In 1998 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars was
sold by Vickers to Volkswagen, although BMW hold the rights to the name and
the marque for use on Rolls-Royce cars, having acquired the rights from
Rolls-Royce plc for £40m in 1998. BMW will take over responsibility for
Rolls-Royce cars from the beginning of 2003.
http://www.rolls-royce.com/history/timeline/default.htm


Jeff Eberhard
Database Administrator
Rolls-Royce Gear Systems
Park City, Utah



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RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-09 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Title: RE: Tech meetings



A 
RR jet engine in a car Cute idea! There is an urban legend about a 
military guy who tried 
to 
mount a JATO rocket on his Chevy Impala (nothing so fancy as R  R). It 
didn't end up
very 
good for him. May be he should have tried with R  R jet 
engine.

Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, Rajendra 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 
  2:34 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: Tech meetings
  Okay ... so you don't get a car ... do you at-least get an 
  engine once in say 5 years ?? 
  Same thing happens to me, I always get the question .. "Do you 
  get tickets to all the games?" the answer is a big NO. We may get to see them 
  on our internal cable network, but unless you are good spending ($$) 
  advertiser tickets are unlikely .. or if you win them in a contest.
  Raj  
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. 
  QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art 
  ! 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Eberhard, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Tech meetings 
  I wish. I always get that question. I work at a 
  gear box manufacturing plant which primarily 
  manufactures gear boxes for jet engines. Rolls-Royce plc doesn't even make the cars anymore. In "1998 Rolls-Royce Motor Cars 
  was sold by Vickers to Volkswagen, although BMW hold 
  the rights to the name and the marque for use on 
  Rolls-Royce cars, having acquired the rights from Rolls-Royce plc for £40m in 1998. BMW will take over responsibility 
  for Rolls-Royce cars from the beginning of 
  2003." http://www.rolls-royce.com/history/timeline/default.htm 
  
  Jeff Eberhard Database 
  Administrator Rolls-Royce Gear Systems 
  Park City, Utah 


RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-09 Thread Thater, William
Title: RE: Tech meetings





  -Original Message-From: Gogala, Mladen 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:59 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Tech meetings
  A 
  RR jet engine in a car Cute idea! There is an urban legend about a 
  military guy who tried 
  to 
  mount a JATO rocket on his Chevy Impala (nothing so fancy as R  R). It 
  didn't end up
  very good for him. May be he should have tried with R  R jet 
  engine.[Shrek]
  
  he made the Darwin awards.;-) can 
  you say "mucho flato";-)
  
  --
  Bill "Shrek" 
  Thater ORACLE DBA BAARF 
  Party member #25
   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
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  capitalism. It has existed for centuries. It is an invention of civilization. 
  - Mikhail Gorbachev 
  


RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-09 Thread Eberhard, Jeff
When I first began working here years ago we had a scheduled lunch
meeting/training every Friday for the IS Department.  Lunch was provided and
someone was given the task to present some technical topic.  A lot of times
it was watching a training video, such as a training video for Visual Basic.
Eventually it died because the guy scheduling the meetings had left the
company.  Every once in a while we try to resurrect the Weekly Training
Meeting.  My current boss (which was an employee turned manager) wants to
have the meetings but doesn't want to provide the lunch.  Guess what?  No
one shows up after the first meeting.  It's amazing what an incentive a
little bit of food is.
 
--Jeff

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:39 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I've found both as a manager in Oracle and in Miracle that if you schedule
regular meetings with the guys (and girls), then they start not showing up
after a while, or the meetings become boring. If you don't hold regular
meetings they'll complain and wish for regular meetings.

So I've come up with this model:

1st meeting
2nd meeting after a week
3rd meeting after two weeks
4th meeting after four weeks
5th meeting after eight weeks (around here or at next iteration they start
complaining...)
6th meeting after a week...
7th meeting after two weeks...

Mvh Mogens

Babette Turner-Underwood wrote:


From time to time, we go through a series of show and tell where people do
about an hour long presentation, question and answer on some usually
technical topic. Occasionally these presentations are business related (eg
explaining how the Canada Pension Plan international agreements affects the
programs we are doing).
 
They die off, then the director resurrects them by asking for volunteers.
Occasionally, people are told to do a presentation on a specific work
-related topic.
 
- 
Babette

-Original Message-
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]On Behalf Of
Rudy Zung
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Don't know if what we do in our shop here qualifies for your question or
not, but our dev groups do stand-up meetings. Relatively quick meetings
(that can be done standing up; no meeting rooms required) that are usually
finished in about 20 minutes. In the stand-ups, we get heads-up for things
and specifications that might be coming down the pipeline from the product
management and design side. We get a quick update on the state of deployment
(what version has rolled into production, what version is in the QA
pipeline) and what the next impending set of changes are about to get pushed
onto the dev servers. If there's any potential gotchas that have been
experienced (especially on the coding front) they get publicized in the
stand-ups as well.
 
The main point of our stand-ups are to make sure that all the developers are
relatively aware of the scheduling and direction of the product, and to
highlight any programming difficulties and workarounds that might arise so
that when different developers hit those gotchas, they'll already know that
a solution might already.
 
These stand-up meetings are basically within a development team/group.
Project leads have their own meetings with the product management group. So
essentially, the product manager has his own meetings; then the product
manager has meetings with the dev project leads to convey what they want in
the next iteration of the product; the project leads then present these to
the dev group in a stand-up meeting.

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Just wondering if your organization has tech meetings, and what is discussed
and what the goals of the meetings are?
 
I've been asked about this, and was wondering if there is a quick list out
there any where.
 
TIA 
 


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RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-08 Thread Babette Turner-Underwood
Title: Message



From 
time to time, we go through a series of "show and tell" where people do about an 
hour long presentation, question and answer on some usually technical topic. 
Occasionally these presentations are business related (eg explaining how the 
Canada Pension Plan international agreements affects the programs we are 
doing).

They 
die off, then the director resurrects them by asking for volunteers. 
Occasionally, people are told to do a presentation on a specific work -related 
topic.

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  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Rudy ZungSent: 
  Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:05 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Tech meetings
  Don't know if what we do in our shop here qualifies 
  for your question or not, but our dev groups do "stand-up meetings." 
  Relatively quick meetings (that can be done standing up; no meeting rooms 
  required) that are usually finished in about 20 minutes. In the stand-ups, we 
  get heads-up for things and specifications that might be coming down the 
  pipeline from the product management and design side. We get a quick update on 
  the state of deployment (what version has rolled into production, what version 
  is in the QA pipeline) and what the next impending set of changes are about to 
  get pushed onto the dev servers. If there's any potential "gotcha"s that have 
  been experienced (especially on the coding front) they get publicized in the 
  stand-ups as well.
  
  The 
  main point of our stand-ups are to make sure that all the developers are 
  relatively aware of the scheduling and direction of the product, and to 
  highlight any programming difficulties and workarounds that might arise so 
  that when different developers hit those gotchas, they'll already know that a 
  solution might already.
  
  These stand-up meetings are basically within a 
  development team/group. Project leads have their own meetings with the product 
  management group. So essentially, the product manager has his own meetings; 
  then the product manager has meetings with the dev project leads to convey 
  what they want in the next iteration of the product; the project leads then 
  present these to the dev group in a stand-up meeting.
  

-Original Message-From: M.Godlewski 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:30 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
Tech meetings
List,

Just wondering if your organization has tech meetings, and what is 
discussed and what the goals of the meetings are?

I've been asked about this, and was wondering if there is a quick list 
out there any where.

TIA



Re: Tech meetings

2003-07-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael
we've started them recently -- only had two so far, part 1 and 2
presentations/interactive sessions on extreme programming

the goal is to get us talking across the various application groups,
spread knowledge, learn some of the newer techniques out there.

No one has (yet) asked me to do one or more presentations on Oracle
though.


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RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-01 Thread Johnston, Tim



We had 
these at the last place I was at... The senior folks from the various 
teams would get together... One person or group was designated to present 
a topic for the next meeting... Neat idea but it 
failed at that location... The reason? The VP of App Dev decided he 
wanted to attend the meetings... Which meant we spent every meeting 
teaching him the basics and never really getting to the good stuff... It 
ended up being a huge waste of time for the majority of the people in the 
room...

Tim

  -Original Message-From: M.Godlewski 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:30 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Tech 
  meetings
  List,
  
  Just wondering if your organization has tech meetings, and what is 
  discussed and what the goals of the meetings are?
  
  I've been asked about this, and was wondering if there is a quick list 
  out there any where.
  
  TIA
  
  
  
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RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-01 Thread Rudy Zung
Title: Message



Don't 
know if what we do in our shop here qualifies for your question or not, but our 
dev groups do "stand-up meetings." Relatively quick meetings (that can be done 
standing up; no meeting rooms required) that are usually finished in about 20 
minutes. In the stand-ups, we get heads-up for things and specifications that 
might be coming down the pipeline from the product management and design side. 
We get a quick update on the state of deployment (what version has rolled into 
production, what version is in the QA pipeline) and what the next impending set 
of changes are about to get pushed onto the dev servers. If there's any 
potential "gotcha"s that have been experienced (especially on the coding front) 
they get publicized in the stand-ups as well.

The 
main point of our stand-ups are to make sure that all the developers are 
relatively aware of the scheduling and direction of the product, and to 
highlight any programming difficulties and workarounds that might arise so that 
when different developers hit those gotchas, they'll already know that a 
solution might already.

These 
stand-up meetings are basically within a development team/group. Project leads 
have their own meetings with the product management group. So essentially, the 
product manager has his own meetings; then the product manager has meetings with 
the dev project leads to convey what they want in the next iteration of the 
product; the project leads then present these to the dev group in a stand-up 
meeting.

  
  -Original Message-From: M.Godlewski 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:30 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Tech 
  meetings
  List,
  
  Just wondering if your organization has tech meetings, and what is 
  discussed and what the goals of the meetings are?
  
  I've been asked about this, and was wondering if there is a quick list 
  out there any where.
  
  TIA
  


RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-01 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
By tech meetings, do you mean status type meetings or learning type
meetings?

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Just wondering if your organization has tech meetings, and what is discussed
and what the goals of the meetings are?
 
I've been asked about this, and was wondering if there is a quick list out
there any where.
 
TIA


 



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RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-01 Thread M.Godlewski
A little of both! I would think there is some how do plan to do this, or why is that the recommended way of doing it type questions and answers sessions.

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RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-01 Thread M.Godlewski
Thanks! This does help me.Rudy Zung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Don't know if what we do in our shop here qualifies for your question or not, but our dev groups do "stand-up meetings." Relatively quick meetings (that can be done standing up; no meeting rooms required) that are usually finished in about 20 minutes. In the stand-ups, we get heads-up for things and specifications that might be coming down the pipeline from the product management and design side. We get a quick update on the state of deployment (what version has rolled into production, what version is in the QA pipeline) and what the next impending set of changes are about to get pushed onto the dev servers. If there's any potential "gotcha"s that have been experienced (especially on the coding front) they get publicized in the stand-ups as well.

The main point of our stand-ups are to make sure that all the developers are relatively aware of the scheduling and direction of the product, and to highlight any programming difficulties and workarounds that might arise so that when different developers hit those gotchas, they'll already know that a solution might already.

These stand-up meetings are basically within a development team/group. Project leads have their own meetings with the product management group. So essentially, the product manager has his own meetings; then the product manager has meetings with the dev project leads to convey what they want in the next iteration of the product; the project leads then present these to the dev group in a stand-up meeting.


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Just wondering if your organization has tech meetings, and what is discussed and what the goals of the meetings are?

I've been asked about this, and was wondering if there is a quick list out there any where.

TIA

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RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-01 Thread M.Godlewski
Good information! Thanks for the heads up on the pit falls."Johnston, Tim" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


We had these at the last place I was at... The senior folks from the various teams would get together... One person or group was designated to present a topic for the next meeting... Neat idea but it failed at that location... The reason? The VP of App Dev decided he wanted to attend the meetings... Which meant we spent every meeting teaching him the basics and never really getting to the good stuff... It ended up being a huge waste of time for the majority of the people in the room...

Tim

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List,

Just wondering if your organization has tech meetings, and what is discussed and what the goals of the meetings are?

I've been asked about this, and was wondering if there is a quick list out there any where.

TIA



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RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-01 Thread Ron Rogers
This could be called training and we have no budget for training

If it wasn't for the constant change and lack of communications I think
I would be bored here.
Ronmô¿ôm


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RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-01 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: Message



Sounds 
like that meeting was missing the middle letter "A."

  
  -Original Message-From: Johnston, Tim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:45 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Tech meetings
  We 
  had these at the last place I was at... The senior folks from the 
  various teams would get together... One person or group was designated 
  to present a topic for the next meeting... Neat idea but 
  it failed at that location... The reason? The VP of App Dev 
  decided he wanted to attend the meetings... Which meant we spent every 
  meeting teaching him the basics and never really getting to the good 
  stuff... It ended up being a huge waste of time for the majority of the 
  people in the room...
  
  Tim
  
-Original Message-From: M.Godlewski 
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Tech meetings
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I've been asked about this, and was wondering if there is a quick list 
out there any where.

TIA



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RE: Tech meetings

2003-07-01 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: Message



The 
best meetings should be like the most efficient SQL statements... 
;-)


  
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  List,
  
  Just wondering if your organization has tech meetings, and what is 
  discussed and what the goals of the meetings are?
  
  I've been asked about this, and was wondering if there is a quick list 
  out there any where.
  
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