RE: What is a large database?
There must be a "G" missing there. It should be "(20G or more Oracle tables)". Guang -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Tanel PoderSent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:49 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: What is a large database? I got a mail from a recruiter searching for Senior Oracle Developers. "Minimum of four years hands-on application programming experience using Oracle RDBMS, including two years using Oracle version 8.0 or higher on large databases (20 or more Oracle tables)." I've always wondered, where goes the line between small and large databases, now I'm enlightened, if you got at least 20 tables, then your db is large. Damn, I could have put experience with VLDBs to my resume several years ago ;) Tanel.
Re: What is a large database?
Tanel, As I am still in the job market looking for any full time assignment, I see all type of requirements like 5+ years 9i experience etc and will see in coming weeks same for 10g( 5+ years experience with Oracle 10g).. What you can do for this when dealing with recruiters who even don't know what they want DBA or DeveloperThe worst problem with Oracle Financials where they are confused with Functional/Technical or Apps DBA requirement. It is bad time to be in the job market. Regards Rafiq Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 07:49:25 -0800 I got a mail from a recruiter searching for Senior Oracle Developers. "Minimum of four years hands-on application programming experience using Oracle RDBMS, including two years using Oracle version 8.0 or higher on large databases (20 or more Oracle tables)." I've always wondered, where goes the line between small and large databases, now I'm enlightened, if you got at least 20 tables, then your db is large. Damn, I could have put experience with VLDBs to my resume several years ago ;) Tanel. _ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: M Rafiq INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: What is a large database?
It is because of some oxes in HR departments -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Tanel, As I am still in the job market looking for any full time assignment, I see all type of requirements like 5+ years 9i experience etc and will see in coming weeks same for 10g( 5+ years experience with Oracle 10g).. What you can do for this when dealing with recruiters who even don't know what they want DBA or DeveloperThe worst problem with Oracle Financials where they are confused with Functional/Technical or Apps DBA requirement. It is bad time to be in the job market. Regards Rafiq Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 07:49:25 -0800 I got a mail from a recruiter searching for Senior Oracle Developers. "Minimum of four years hands-on application programming experience using Oracle RDBMS, including two years using Oracle version 8.0 or higher on large databases (20 or more Oracle tables)." I've always wondered, where goes the line between small and large databases, now I'm enlightened, if you got at least 20 tables, then your db is large. Damn, I could have put experience with VLDBs to my resume several years ago ;) Tanel. _ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: M Rafiq INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: What is a large database?
In Estonian language, the word "administrator" also means receptionist. Guess how many former hotel receptionists or whatever security desk operators I've had to turn down in past when they've looked for DBA job. Oh, yes, some of them had over 20 years administrator experience in large organizations, also lots of experience with 24x7 operations etc ;) Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:04 PM > Tanel, > > As I am still in the job market looking for any full time assignment, I see > all type of requirements like 5+ years 9i experience etc and will see in > coming weeks same for 10g( 5+ years experience with Oracle 10g).. > > What you can do for this when dealing with recruiters who even don't know > what they want DBA or DeveloperThe worst problem with Oracle Financials > where they are confused with Functional/Technical or Apps DBA requirement. > > It is bad time to be in the job market. > > Regards > Rafiq > > > > > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 07:49:25 -0800 > > I got a mail from a recruiter searching for Senior Oracle Developers. > > "Minimum of four years hands-on application programming experience using > Oracle RDBMS, including two years using Oracle version 8.0 or higher on > large databases (20 or more Oracle tables)." > > I've always wondered, where goes the line between small and large databases, > now I'm enlightened, if you got at least 20 tables, then your db is large. > Damn, I could have put experience with VLDBs to my resume several years ago > ;) > > Tanel. > > _ > Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: M Rafiq > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: What is a large database?
Excellent..but most difficult part to pass through recruiters these days... Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:29:24 -0800 It is because of some oxes in HR departments -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Tanel, As I am still in the job market looking for any full time assignment, I see all type of requirements like 5+ years 9i experience etc and will see in coming weeks same for 10g( 5+ years experience with Oracle 10g).. What you can do for this when dealing with recruiters who even don't know what they want DBA or DeveloperThe worst problem with Oracle Financials where they are confused with Functional/Technical or Apps DBA requirement. It is bad time to be in the job market. Regards Rafiq Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 07:49:25 -0800 I got a mail from a recruiter searching for Senior Oracle Developers. "Minimum of four years hands-on application programming experience using Oracle RDBMS, including two years using Oracle version 8.0 or higher on large databases (20 or more Oracle tables)." I've always wondered, where goes the line between small and large databases, now I'm enlightened, if you got at least 20 tables, then your db is large. Damn, I could have put experience with VLDBs to my resume several years ago ;) Tanel. _ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: M Rafiq INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Use custom emotions -- try MSN Messenger 6.0! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_emoticon -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: M Rafiq INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: What is a large database?
And the database must be muave. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- Guang Mei Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L There must be a "G" missing there. It should be "(20G or more Oracle tables)". Guang -Original Message- nel Poder Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I got a mail from a recruiter searching for Senior Oracle Developers. "Minimum of four years hands-on application programming experience using Oracle RDBMS, including two years using Oracle version 8.0 or higher on large databases (20 or more Oracle tables)." I've always wondered, where goes the line between small and large databases, now I'm enlightened, if you got at least 20 tables, then your db is large
Re: What is a large database?
And possibly more than 20 tables in the hotel's restaurant ... Tanel Poder wrote: > > In Estonian language, the word "administrator" also means receptionist. > Guess how many former hotel receptionists or whatever security desk > operators I've had to turn down in past when they've looked for DBA job. Oh, > yes, some of them had over 20 years administrator experience in large > organizations, also lots of experience with 24x7 operations etc ;) > > Tanel. > > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:04 PM > > > Tanel, > > > > As I am still in the job market looking for any full time assignment, I > see > > all type of requirements like 5+ years 9i experience etc and will see in > > coming weeks same for 10g( 5+ years experience with Oracle 10g).. > > > > What you can do for this when dealing with recruiters who even don't know > > what they want DBA or DeveloperThe worst problem with Oracle > Financials > > where they are confused with Functional/Technical or Apps DBA requirement. > > > > It is bad time to be in the job market. > > > > Regards > > Rafiq > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 07:49:25 -0800 > > > > I got a mail from a recruiter searching for Senior Oracle Developers. > > > > "Minimum of four years hands-on application programming experience using > > Oracle RDBMS, including two years using Oracle version 8.0 or higher on > > large databases (20 or more Oracle tables)." > > > > I've always wondered, where goes the line between small and large > databases, > > now I'm enlightened, if you got at least 20 tables, then your db is large. > > Damn, I could have put experience with VLDBs to my resume several years > ago > > ;) > > > > Tanel. > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: What is a large database?
you should send them over to Australia. At least they'd be better than the standard of "dba" we get here... Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - > In Estonian language, the word "administrator" also means receptionist. > Guess how many former hotel receptionists or whatever security desk > operators I've had to turn down in past when they've looked for DBA job. Oh, > yes, some of them had over 20 years administrator experience in large > organizations, also lots of experience with 24x7 operations etc ;) > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nuno Souto INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: What is a large database?
Hi, Do you really think the standard of database administrators in Australia is low? What is it that you are expecting? Cheers, Craig. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, 12 September 2003 8:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L you should send them over to Australia. At least they'd be better than the standard of "dba" we get here... Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - > In Estonian language, the word "administrator" also means receptionist. > Guess how many former hotel receptionists or whatever security desk > operators I've had to turn down in past when they've looked for DBA job. Oh, > yes, some of them had over 20 years administrator experience in large > organizations, also lots of experience with 24x7 operations etc ;) > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nuno Souto INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Craig Munday INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: What is a large database?
Title: RE: What is a large database? I think there are many *poorly skilled* Oracle DBA's in Australia. I had one of my clients sugest increasing the Oracle log_buffer to 10MB. His claim is since the box has sufficient amount of memory "why not use a very large log buffer". I do not think he reads the oracle docs very well and he knows when LGWR writes to the redo log files. This was after I recommended changing an Oracle system disk configuration from RAID 5 ( 4 disks) which includes the Windows OS on the same RAID 5 array to using a RAID 1 for the OS and multiple standalone and RAID 1 disks for Oracle. Sugesting RAID 1 and standalone disks since there are not enough disks that can fit into the array. Client does not want to spend $$$ so they have only a 5 disk array that we could use for Oracle. Surpising enough the write cache on the disk array was set to 0 and 100% for the read cache on this particular RAID 5 system which does lots of small writes for the application making things even worse. The DBA also sugested "but the BCHR is 99.7% which means that blah , blah , blah and in Oracle terms performance is very good". It could be clearly seen from the Windows performance monitors and statspack that the IO sub system was being stressed and the only way to improve performance was to re arrange the disks to reduce the contention between the various processes contending for IO resources. And get rid of the RAID 5 configuration. Another thing that came up in my furious conversation with them was "but the disks has enough capacity blah blah blah, why do we need additional disks". I had to explain the concepts of RAID and how bad RAID 5 is for write performance esp when the datafiles, redo logs, archives, control files and OS is on the same RAID 5 array. No offense to any Oracle DBA in Australia as we all know there are some excellent DBA's here like Connor, Steve, Mark Gurry, Guy Harrison, Nuno Sunto, Howard Rogers, etc, etc Anyway that was some humour I thought I should share with the list since we were on the topic of talented DBA's in Australia. Regards Suhen -Original Message- From: Craig Munday [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2003 1:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: What is a large database? Hi, Do you really think the standard of database administrators in Australia is low? What is it that you are expecting? Cheers, Craig. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, 12 September 2003 8:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L you should send them over to Australia. At least they'd be better than the standard of "dba" we get here... Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - > In Estonian language, the word "administrator" also means receptionist. > Guess how many former hotel receptionists or whatever security desk > operators I've had to turn down in past when they've looked for DBA job. Oh, > yes, some of them had over 20 years administrator experience in large > organizations, also lots of experience with 24x7 operations etc ;) > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nuno Souto INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Craig Munday INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: What is a large database?
- Original Message - > Do you really think the standard of database administrators in Australia is > low? What is it that you are expecting? > When projects sponsored and supported by such large companies as IBM and Oracle get 27 "DBAs" and 30 developers, one has to start asking EXACTLY what does being a DBA in this country mean... Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nuno Souto INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: What is a large database?
- Original Message - > Surpising enough the write cache on the disk array was set to 0 and 100% for > the read cache on this particular > RAID 5 system which does lots of small writes for the application making > things even worse. Hehehe! Can never win, eh? :) > > The DBA also sugested "but the BCHR is 99.7% which means that blah , blah , > blah and in Oracle terms performance is very good". Ah yes, the ratios! How much longer is that one gonna linger... > Another thing that came up in my furious conversation with them was "but the > disks has enough capacity blah blah blah, > why do we need additional disks". but, isn't a 256Gb disk faster than an 80Gb disk anyway? It's what the hardware vendor told me! > No offense to any Oracle DBA in Australia as we all know there are some > excellent DBA's here like Connor, Steve, > Mark Gurry, Guy Harrison, Nuno Sunto, Howard Rogers, etc, etc I dunno about the others and I certainly don't consider myself excellent. But I suspect most will agree with me: given the poor standard of DBAs in Australia, I'd rather not be associated with that title, thank you very much. Is it too much to ask to have my name spelled properly? Or am I being singled out for any particular reason? Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nuno Souto INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: What is a large database?
It seems that DBA's with poor skills is not limited to any particular locale. After all, people are pretty much the same in regards to personal motivations, regardless of nationality. We're all equally plagued by folks with a less than adequate skill set and knowledge of systems they purport to be expert in. Fortunately for us, there are a number of people on this list that are very gifted, talented and hard working, as well as willing to share their expertise. Jared Suhen Pather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/23/2003 12:29 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: What is a large database? I think there are many *poorly skilled* Oracle DBA's in Australia. I had one of my clients sugest increasing the Oracle log_buffer to 10MB. His claim is since the box has sufficient amount of memory "why not use a very large log buffer". I do not think he reads the oracle docs very well and he knows when LGWR writes to the redo log files. This was after I recommended changing an Oracle system disk configuration from RAID 5 ( 4 disks) which includes the Windows OS on the same RAID 5 array to using a RAID 1 for the OS and multiple standalone and RAID 1 disks for Oracle. Sugesting RAID 1 and standalone disks since there are not enough disks that can fit into the array. Client does not want to spend $$$ so they have only a 5 disk array that we could use for Oracle. Surpising enough the write cache on the disk array was set to 0 and 100% for the read cache on this particular RAID 5 system which does lots of small writes for the application making things even worse. The DBA also sugested "but the BCHR is 99.7% which means that blah , blah , blah and in Oracle terms performance is very good". It could be clearly seen from the Windows performance monitors and statspack that the IO sub system was being stressed and the only way to improve performance was to re arrange the disks to reduce the contention between the various processes contending for IO resources. And get rid of the RAID 5 configuration. Another thing that came up in my furious conversation with them was "but the disks has enough capacity blah blah blah, why do we need additional disks". I had to explain the concepts of RAID and how bad RAID 5 is for write performance esp when the datafiles, redo logs, archives, control files and OS is on the same RAID 5 array. No offense to any Oracle DBA in Australia as we all know there are some excellent DBA's here like Connor, Steve, Mark Gurry, Guy Harrison, Nuno Sunto, Howard Rogers, etc, etc Anyway that was some humour I thought I should share with the list since we were on the topic of talented DBA's in Australia. Regards Suhen -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2003 1:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, Do you really think the standard of database administrators in Australia is low? What is it that you are expecting? Cheers, Craig. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, 12 September 2003 8:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L you should send them over to Australia. At least they'd be better than the standard of "dba" we get here... Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - > In Estonian language, the word "administrator" also means receptionist. > Guess how many former hotel receptionists or whatever security desk > operators I've had to turn down in past when they've looked for DBA job. Oh, > yes, some of them had over 20 years administrator experience in large > organizations, also lots of experience with 24x7 operations etc ;) > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nuno Souto INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Craig Munday INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelli
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Hi Mladen, please excuse me. Since I try to improve my knowledge about the English: what do youmean with muave? Some kind of wood? Please enlighten me. Greetings, Guido >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11.09.2003 20.49 Uhr >>> And the database must be muave. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Guido Konsolke INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT Re: RE: What is a large database?
LOL, Mauve is a shade of the colour Purple. And of course, everybody knows that purple databases run faster! ;) Personally, I've always preferred Electric Blue databases, funky, fast, and FAR easier to manage! -Original Message- Guido Konsolke Sent: 12 September 2003 08:54 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Mladen, please excuse me. Since I try to improve my knowledge about the English: what do youmean with muave? Some kind of wood? Please enlighten me. Greetings, Guido >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11.09.2003 20.49 Uhr >>> And the database must be muave. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Guido Konsolke INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mark Leith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT Re: RE: What is a large database?
Hmm, applied Feng Shui for Oracle Performance. For optimum throughput storage should be coloured red and white in alternating bands of colour. It's called disk-striping. Badummp-k !! I'll get me coat ... and back on topic. Mike -Original Message- Sent: 12 September 2003 11:14 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L LOL, Mauve is a shade of the colour Purple. And of course, everybody knows that purple databases run faster! ;) Personally, I've always preferred Electric Blue databases, funky, fast, and FAR easier to manage! E mail Disclaimer You agree that you have read and understood this disclaimer and you agree to be bound by its terms. The information contained in this e-mail and any files transmitted with it (if any) are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the originator. This e-mail and any attachments have been scanned for certain viruses prior to sending but CE Electric UK Funding Company nor any of its associated companies from whom this e-mail originates shall be liable for any losses as a result of any viruses being passed on. No warranty of any kind is given in respect of any information contained in this e-mail and you should be aware that that it might be incomplete, out of date or incorrect. It is therefore essential that you verify all such information with us before placing any reliance upon it. CE Electric UK Funding Company Lloyds Court 78 Grey Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 6AF Registered in England and Wales: Number 3476201 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT Re: RE: What is a large database?
It's supposed to be "mauve", the color. The reference is from a Dilbert cartoon. Google found a copy here: http://www-dbs.cs.uni-sb.de/~dbs02/images/dilbert.gif Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA > -Original Message- > From: Guido Konsolke > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:54 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: OT Re: RE: What is a large database? > > > Hi Mladen, > > please excuse me. Since I try to improve my knowledge > about the English: what do youmean with muave? Some > kind of wood? > > Please enlighten me. > > Greetings, > Guido > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11.09.2003 20.49 Uhr >>> > And the database must be muave. > > > -- > Mladen Gogala > Oracle DBA > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT Re: RE: What is a large database?
Selling -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jesse, Rich > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 12:10 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: OT Re: RE: What is a large database? > > > It's supposed to be "mauve", the color. The reference is > from a Dilbert cartoon. Google found a copy here: > > http://www-dbs.cs.uni-sb.de/~dbs02/images/dilbert.gif > > Rich > > Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Guido Konsolke > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:54 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: OT Re: RE: What is a large database? > > > > > > Hi Mladen, > > > > please excuse me. Since I try to improve my knowledge > > about the English: what do youmean with muave? Some > > kind of wood? > > > > Please enlighten me. > > > > Greetings, > > Guido > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11.09.2003 20.49 Uhr >>> > > And the database must be muave. > > > > > > -- > > Mladen Gogala > > Oracle DBA > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Jesse, Rich > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') > and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > from). You may also send the HELP command for other > information (like subscribing). > Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
