RE: possible to load a string with paragraphs?

2004-01-28 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
one word ... CLOB field ...

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Hi List,

I have a web application that allows users to type notes with paragraphs.  
Is it possiable to load the string with paragraphs into Oracle (not save the 
note as a file)?  Later on the application has to display the same format 
for the note when the user queries that record on the web.

Thanks for any inputs.

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possible to load a string with paragraphs?

2004-01-27 Thread David Boyd
Hi List,

I have a web application that allows users to type notes with paragraphs.  
Is it possiable to load the string with paragraphs into Oracle (not save the 
note as a file)?  Later on the application has to display the same format 
for the note when the user queries that record on the web.

Thanks for any inputs.

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is this possible ?

2004-01-23 Thread Rohan Karanjawala
i hv to write an sql query in which i hv to fetch all the tables frm the 
database having a column say EMPNO and where the value of this empno column 
is say 9 and this should be thru a single sql query
is this possible ?

Thanks and Regds,

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Re: is this possible ?

2004-01-23 Thread Mladen Gogala
What are you trying to get? Column values or (TABLE,COLUMN)
combination? You could probably use a function like this:
create or replace function trickery(T varchar2,C varchar2, V number)
return number deterministic
as
qry varchar2(2048);
cnt number:=0;
begin
qry='select count(*) from '||T||' where '||C||'='||V;
execute immediate qry into cnt;
return(cnt);
end;
/
The rest is simply using this function in a query against  
dba_tab_columns.

On 01/23/2004 11:54:26 PM, Rohan Karanjawala wrote:
i hv to write an sql query in which i hv to fetch all the tables frm  
the database having a column say EMPNO and where the value of this  
empno column is say 9 and this should be thru a single sql query
is this possible ?

Thanks and Regds,

Rohan

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is it possible to force different 'types' of index scans?

2003-12-30 Thread ryan_oracle
I  know you can hint a fast full scan. I have run into cases lately where depending on 
circumstances Oracle will use an index, but use a sub-optimal type of index scan with 
dramatic differences in performances.

This is on 9.2. Any hints for forcing an 'index range scan'. Anything stronger than a 
'hint'. Something like 'do it because I said so'. 

This only happens occasionaly, so Id just like to know if it exists for future 
reference. 

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RE: is it possible to force different 'types' of index scans?

2003-12-30 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
put in a between clause in where clause on appropriate columns for a range scan.

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I  know you can hint a fast full scan. I have run into cases lately where depending on 
circumstances Oracle will use an index, but use a sub-optimal type of index scan with 
dramatic differences in performances.

This is on 9.2. Any hints for forcing an 'index range scan'. Anything stronger than a 
'hint'. Something like 'do it because I said so'. 

This only happens occasionaly, so Id just like to know if it exists for future 
reference. 

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Re: is it possible to force different 'types' of index scans?

2003-12-30 Thread Tanel Poder
You can have range scan with equality search (=) as well, if your index is
non-unique and there is no unique constraint on column.

Tanel.

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 put in a between clause in where clause on appropriate columns for a
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 I  know you can hint a fast full scan. I have run into cases lately where
depending on circumstances Oracle will use an index, but use a sub-optimal
type of index scan with dramatic differences in performances.

 This is on 9.2. Any hints for forcing an 'index range scan'. Anything
stronger than a 'hint'. Something like 'do it because I said so'.

 This only happens occasionaly, so Id just like to know if it exists for
future reference.

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anyone seen this? (possible controlfile corruption)

2003-12-05 Thread Paul Drake
Hi.

tar already opened - awaiting feedback.

W2K Adv Svr Sp4
Oracle 9i R2 Std Ed 9.2.0.4
NTFS 5.0 filesystem
Dell 2650, PERC3/Di controller, writeback caching enabled
qa database, not a huge deal at the moment.
I have a backup controlfile, but would rather not open resetlogs, as there is a remote standby database for this - but then again, that gets refreshed over the weekend anyways.

I only found one similar posting on the Oracle Metalink Forums, so this seems to be uncommon.
just wondering if anyone has experienced this.
glad that I haven't seen it yet in production.
so it seems that the battery in the PERC just decided to charge itself in an unscheduled fashion.

I'd recommend that if you have any Dell Servers that you periodically re-charge the battery explicitly, rather than wait for it to do it itself, at some inopportune time.

Paul


* ATTENTION:  The controlfile header block returned by the OShas a sequence number that is too old. The controlfile might be corrupted.PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT TO START UP THE INSTANCE without following the steps below.RE-STARTING THE INSTANCE CAN CAUSE SERIOUS DAMAGE TO THE DATABASE, if the controlfile is truly corrupted.In order to re-start the instance safely, please do the following:(1) Save all copies of the controlfile for later  analysis and contact your OS vendor and Oracle support.(2) Mount the instance and issue:  ALTER DATABASE BACKUP CONTROLFILE TO TRACE;(3) Unmount the instance. (4) Use the script in the trace file to RE-CREATE THE CONTROLFILE and open the database.
 *kccchb_6: Controlfile sequence number mismatch ! SGA Seq: 198992 lseqno: 198991 lfileno: 0 hseqno: 198991 hfileno : 0 


Event Type:ErrorEvent Source:afamgtEvent Category:NoneEvent ID:1Date:12/4/2003Time:6:37:14 PMUser:N/AComputer:NY-ORCL-001Description:\Device\AFA0 : Battery is Charging Data:: 00 00 00 00 02 00 4e 00 ..N.0008: 00 00 00 00 01 00 07 e0 ...à0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
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possible to do a top -N update?

2003-10-24 Thread rgaffuri
Im familiar with top n queries. Im trying to tune an update and try to do it in one 
update statement instead of a query. Im basically trying to update only the top N 
fields. 

Here is the cursor(I have rewritten it as an analytic function, but I really want it 
as a single update. any suggestions? 

I re-wrote the cursor as follows, which is much faster, but I want to get away from 
pl/sql

 select *
from (select  pk, date,
 dense_rank()
 over (partition by pk
   order by date desc)
 tab from mytable a) tab
 where tab = 1

here is the cursor:

declare
  cursor c_update is
select pk, last_day(date) monthend_date,
   max(date) max_date
from mytable
group by pk, last_day(date);

  row   integer;
  l_date   date;

begin

  select last_day (add_months(sysdate, -1) ) into l_date
  from dual;

  row := 0;
  for update_rec in c_update
  loop
if update_rec.max_date = l_date then
  update mytable
  set monthend_date = update_rec.monthend_date
  where pk = update_rec.pk
and date = update_rec.max_perfdate;

  

end if;

  end loop;

  commit;
end;
/

I tried re-writing it as follows: but i get errors on the order by. any other 
possibilities? 


update mytable a
set monthend_date = (select last_day(date)
 from  mytable b
 where a.pk = b.pk 
 and rownum = 1)
where (pk,date) in (select pk,date
  from mytable c
 where c.pk = a.pk
   and rownum = 1
order by date desc)

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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-24 Thread AK
Thanks Ron ,
This worked . But do you know why it happens . As I said its happening third
time with me . My unix screen behaves weired sometimes it doesn't print any
character I type and some time it prints characters which I never type ( in
this particular case ).

Thanks,
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 This generally happens when there is a CTL-H embedded in the filename.
Try

 mv *m* anotherfilename

 You should be able to get at it after that.

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 This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I can
see a file in current
 directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or
directory .  I am same user
 who created the file .. ( no permission problem )

 Any idea ??

 -ak





 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
 total 4
 drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
 -rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
 drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..

  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
 cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory

  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
 cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory

 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $

 /home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-24 Thread Thomas Day

What type of terminal are you emulating in your telnet session, what is the
value of your TERMINAL environmental variable and what are your stty
settings in your .profile?  I used to use VT110 or VT220 for the terminal.



   

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Thanks Ron ,
This worked . But do you know why it happens . As I said its happening
third
time with me . My unix screen behaves weired sometimes it doesn't print any
character I type and some time it prints characters which I never type ( in
this particular case ).

Thanks,
-ak

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 This generally happens when there is a CTL-H embedded in the filename.
Try

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 You should be able to get at it after that.

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 This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I can
see a file in current
 directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or
directory .  I am same user
 who created the file .. ( no permission problem )

 Any idea ??

 -ak





 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
 total 4
 drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
 -rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
 drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..

  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
 cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory

  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
 cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory

 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $

 /home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
 ak





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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-24 Thread adamdonahue
Are you using vi?  Sometimes if you try to :wq! to a specific name a 
little too quickly, you might accidentally punch in a non-printable 
control character in the filename.

Adam




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Thanks Ron ,
This worked . But do you know why it happens . As I said its happening 
third
time with me . My unix screen behaves weired sometimes it doesn't print 
any
character I type and some time it prints characters which I never type ( 
in
this particular case ).

Thanks,
-ak

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 This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I 
can
see a file in current
 directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or
directory .  I am same user
 who created the file .. ( no permission problem )

 Any idea ??

 -ak





 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
 total 4
 drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
 -rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
 drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..

  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
 cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory

  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
 cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory

 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $

 /home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
 ak





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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Thomas

I see this from time to time on our HP systems.  The terminal emulator on the client 
gets out of
sync with the host, especially in regards to CTL-H and the Backspace key.  I've seen 
this caused by
applications that set the emulator into raw mode (Oracle Applications 10.7 character) 
and then back
as well as su - user ... exit.

That CTL-H trick embedded in a filename is how I test our Jr admins.  Yes... I can be 
a tad evil at
times...

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Thanks Ron ,
This worked . But do you know why it happens . As I said its happening third
time with me . My unix screen behaves weired sometimes it doesn't print any
character I type and some time it prints characters which I never type ( in
this particular case ).

Thanks,
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 This generally happens when there is a CTL-H embedded in the filename.
Try

 mv *m* anotherfilename

 You should be able to get at it after that.

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 This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I can
see a file in current
 directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or
directory .  I am same user
 who created the file .. ( no permission problem )

 Any idea ??

 -ak





 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
 total 4
 drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
 -rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
 drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..

  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
 cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory

  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
 cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory

 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $

 /home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
 ak





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how is it possible

2003-10-23 Thread AK



This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . 
When I do ls -alt I can see a file in current directory but when I try to open 
it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or directory . I am same user who 
created the file . ( no permission problem )

Any idea ??

-ak





/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
total 4drwxrwxrwx 2 
ak 
dba 96 
Oct 23 14:40 .-rwxrwxrwx 1 
ak 
dba 412 Oct 23 
14:40 mon_scrdrwxr-x--- 10 ak 
dba 1024 Oct 13 
16:07 ..
/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat 
mon_scrcat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory
/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat 
./mon_scrcat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or 
directory
/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $
/home/ak/shell_scr $ whoamiak



Re: how is it possible

2003-10-23 Thread Tim Gorman
Likely there are non-printing characters in the name of
the file...

To see them, try ls -alt | od -c | more.  To view, rename,
or delete the file, use wildcards...


 This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I
 do ls -alt I can see a file in current directory but when
 I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or
 directory .  I am same user who created the file . ( no
 permission problem ) 
 Any idea ??
 
 -ak
 
 
 
 
 
 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
 total 4
 drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
 -rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40
 mon_scr drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13
 16:07 .. 
  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
 cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory
 
  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
 cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory
 
 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $
 
 /home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
 ak
 
 
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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-23 Thread Ron Thomas

This generally happens when there is a CTL-H embedded in the filename.  Try

mv *m* anotherfilename

You should be able to get at it after that.

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This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I can see a file 
in current
directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or directory .  I 
am same user
who created the file .. ( no permission problem )

Any idea ??

-ak





/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
total 4
drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
-rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..

 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory

 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory

/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $

/home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
ak





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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-23 Thread adamdonahue
It probably contains an unprintable control character or an extra space. 
Try doing 

$ ls -li# to get the inode
$ find . -inode inode  -exec mv {} newname \;

or something similar.

Adam




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This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I can 
see a file in current directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it 
says no such file or directory .  I am same user who created the file . ( 
no permission problem )
 
Any idea ??
 
-ak
 
 
 
 
 
/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
total 4
drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
-rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..
 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory
 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory
/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $
/home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
ak

 

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Re: how is it possible

2003-10-23 Thread Arup Nanda



Could it have some special characters in the name? 
Try "cat *" instead.



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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 6:49 
  PM
  Subject: how is it possible
  
  This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . 
  When I do ls -alt I can see a file in current directory but when I try to open 
  it (vi/cat ) it says no such file or directory . I am same user who 
  created the file . ( no permission problem )
  
  Any idea ??
  
  -ak
  
  
  
  
  
  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls 
  -alt
  total 4drwxrwxrwx 2 
  ak 
  dba 96 
  Oct 23 14:40 .-rwxrwxrwx 1 
  ak 
  dba 412 Oct 
  23 14:40 mon_scrdrwxr-x--- 10 ak 
  dba 1024 Oct 13 
  16:07 ..
  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat 
  mon_scrcat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or 
directory
  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat 
  ./mon_scrcat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or 
  directory
  /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $
  /home/ak/shell_scr $ whoamiak
  


Re: how is it possible

2003-10-23 Thread Mike Killough
It could have unprintable characters in the name. You can do ls -m, then 
rename the file.

$ ls -m
mytest1.lis, mytest.lis , mytest2.lis
$ mv mytest.lis  mytest.lis



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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:49:24 -0800
This happening with me 3 rd time on this hp box . When I do ls -alt I can 
see a file in current directory but when I try to open it (vi/cat ) it says 
no such file or directory .  I am same user who created the file . ( no 
permission problem )

Any idea ??

-ak





/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ ls -alt
total 4
drwxrwxrwx   2 ak   dba 96 Oct 23 14:40 .
-rwxrwxrwx   1 ak   dba412 Oct 23 14:40 mon_scr
drwxr-x---  10 ak   dba   1024 Oct 13 16:07 ..
 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat mon_scr
cat: Cannot open mon_scr: No such file or directory
 /home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $ cat ./mon_scr
cat: Cannot open ./mon_scr: No such file or directory
/home/ak/myscripts/shell_scr $

/home/ak/shell_scr $ whoami
ak
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RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-17 Thread Paul Vincent



Many 
thanks to everyone who responded! Looks like the outcome will be PL/SQL 
Developer licenses for our developers, while I get to keep my Toad Xpert / DBA 
module. Thanks again for the useful insights!

Paul 
Vincent
DBA
University of Central England


RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-16 Thread Dunscombe, Chris
Paul,
 
I've used PL/SQL Developer by Allround Automations to develop PL/SQL procs,
packages and it's fine including a well featured de-bugger. I believe that a
site licence costs $3,000. As to it being a DBA tool I'd have to say it's
not in the same league as TOAD Xpert with DBA module.
 
Chris Dunscombe 

Accenture Worthing Unit 

Internal: 71-3558 
External: 01903-283558 
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Management have been grumbling about the cost of TOAD Professional licenses,
and have been recommended a cheaper product called PL/SQL Developer by
Allround Automations (available from Inthink Corporation at $150 a pop).
Now, I've been to the product website, and read up on all its features, and
it basically looks like a nice enough product, but aimed squarely at PL/SQL
developers, rather than including all the DBA-oriented goodies we find in
TOAD. My first reaction is to respond by saying fine, give it to the
developers to replace their copies of TOAD, if they find it adequate for
development, but it's not a DBA tool, so I'll keep my TOAD Xpert with DBA
module, thanks very much!.
 
But if anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be interested to know
what you think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional for developers? Does it
have hidden charms which would make it a suitable replacement for DBA use?
How responsive are the product developers to requests for enhancements? Any
input is very welcome!
 
Paul Vincent
DBA
University of Central England

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RE: RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-16 Thread Patterson, Mark
Hi,

I'll second Chris' statement. I found PL/SQL Developer to be a great and
inexpensive PL/SQL development tool. Its debugger is especially good. In
fact from a development perspective I found it to be far superior to TOAD.
Have no idea about support and consideration of user suggestions as I had no
issues to report.
However as its name suggests it is purely a PL/SQL development tool and not
an administration tool, but then I don't think its trying to be the latter. 
Would recommend you stick with TOAD for administration, I don't know of
anything else significantly cheaper out there to replace TOAD and any small
licensing savings will be lost to lower productivity during the learning
curve anyway.

Regards,
Mark.




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 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:50:30 +0100
 Subject: RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

Paul,
 
I've used PL/SQL Developer by Allround Automations to develop PL/SQL
procs,
packages and it's fine including a well featured de-bugger. I
believe that a
site licence costs $3,000. As to it being a DBA tool I'd have to say
it's
not in the same league as TOAD Xpert with DBA module.
 
Chris Dunscombe 

Accenture Worthing Unit 

Internal: 71-3558 
External: 01903-283558 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Management have been grumbling about the cost of TOAD Professional
licenses,
and have been recommended a cheaper product called PL/SQL
Developer by
Allround Automations (available from Inthink Corporation at $150 a
pop).
Now, I've been to the product website, and read up on all its
features, and
it basically looks like a nice enough product, but aimed squarely at
PL/SQL
developers, rather than including all the DBA-oriented goodies we
find in
TOAD. My first reaction is to respond by saying fine, give it to
the
developers to replace their copies of TOAD, if they find it adequate
for
development, but it's not a DBA tool, so I'll keep my TOAD Xpert
with DBA
module, thanks very much!.
 
But if anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be interested
to know
what you think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional for developers?
Does it
have hidden charms which would make it a suitable replacement for
DBA use?
How responsive are the product developers to requests for
enhancements? Any
input is very welcome!
 
Paul Vincent
DBA
University of Central England
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RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-16 Thread babette.turnerunderwood
Title: Message



We do 
something similar here.
Developers gets Golden (from Benthic). Which has a nice little PL/SQL 
Editor and SQL spreadsheet.
DBAs 
get TOAD.
Babette 
Turner-Underwood work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
954-3752 (Mon - Fri 7am - 
3pm) 

  
  -Original Message-From: Rich Gesler 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2003-10-15 1:24 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement
  You 
  are correct in that it is very developer centric. As far, as hidden 
  charms...I'd have to say the Reports capabilities. You can easily 
  incorporate your DBA scripts into this little tool. Still not as good as 
  TOAD (or even TORA) for a DBA but a nice, cheap addition to the 
  arsenal.
  Download it and give it a try,
  Rich
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul 
VincentSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:59 AMTo: 
Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Opinions sought on 
possible TOAD replacement
Management have been grumbling about the cost of TOAD Professional 
licenses, and have been "recommended" a cheaper product called PL/SQL 
Developer by Allround Automations (available from Inthink Corporation at 
$150 a pop). Now, I've been to the product website, and read up on all its 
features, and it basically looks like a nice enough product, but aimed 
squarely at PL/SQL developers, rather than including all the DBA-oriented 
goodies we find in TOAD. My first reaction is to respond by saying "fine, 
give it to the developers to replace their copies of TOAD, if they find it 
adequate for development, but it's not a DBA tool, so I'll keep my TOAD 
Xpert with DBA module, thanks very much!".

But if anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be interested 
to know what you think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional for developers? 
Does it have hidden charms which would make it a suitable replacement for 
DBA use? How responsive are the product developers to requests for 
enhancements? Any input is very welcome!

Paul Vincent
DBA
University of Central 
England


RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-16 Thread Johnston, Tim
Title: Message



FYI... Golden is a query tool (and a damn good one)... In my 
opinion, it's what SQL Worksheet should be... Simple to use and 
fast... The PL/SQL editor from Benthicis separate tool called 
PLEdit... It's ok but not great... Like Golden it is quick and 
simple... But, if you are looking for advanced functionality then I would 
definitely go with another solution... I took a peek at PL/SQL Developer a 
few months agoand thought it was a nice tool... Especially for the 
price... That being said, I use PLEdit for my own use...I buy 
my own tools and don't do enough to justify the cost...

Tim

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  replacement
  We 
  do something similar here.
  Developers gets Golden (from Benthic). Which has a nice little PL/SQL 
  Editor and SQL spreadsheet.
  DBAs 
  get TOAD.
  Babette 
  Turner-Underwood work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  954-3752 (Mon - Fri 7am - 
  3pm) 
  

-Original Message-From: Rich Gesler 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2003-10-15 1:24 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement
You are correct in that it is very developer centric. As far, 
as hidden charms...I'd have to say the Reports capabilities. You can 
easily incorporate your DBA scripts into this little tool. Still not 
as good as TOAD (or even TORA) for a DBA but a nice, cheap addition to the 
arsenal.
Download it and give it a try,
Rich

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul 
  VincentSent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:59 AMTo: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Opinions sought on 
  possible TOAD replacement
  Management have been grumbling about the cost of TOAD Professional 
  licenses, and have been "recommended" a cheaper product called PL/SQL 
  Developer by Allround Automations (available from Inthink Corporation at 
  $150 a pop). Now, I've been to the product website, and read up on all its 
  features, and it basically looks like a nice enough product, but aimed 
  squarely at PL/SQL developers, rather than including all the DBA-oriented 
  goodies we find in TOAD. My first reaction is to respond by saying "fine, 
  give it to the developers to replace their copies of TOAD, if they find it 
  adequate for development, but it's not a DBA tool, so I'll keep my TOAD 
  Xpert with DBA module, thanks very much!".
  
  But if anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be 
  interested to know what you think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional 
  for developers? Does it have hidden charms which would make it a suitable 
  replacement for DBA use? How responsive are the product developers to 
  requests for enhancements? Any input is very welcome!
  
  Paul Vincent
  DBA
  University of Central 
  England


RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-16 Thread Bob Metelsky









TORA, OraC, sqlplus, vi, perl and a linux box to run it
on, though the 
database
servers are mostly Win2k. 

Software
$0.00 
OS
$0.0 
HW
$12k 



A
procedure return with no errors

 Priceless

g

FWIW for a nice sql editor golden is nice. Others on this
list sold me on that



bob




 
  
  
  
  
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Management have been grumbling about the cost of
TOAD Professional licenses, and have been recommended a cheaper
product called PL/SQL Developer by Allround Automations (available from Inthink
Corporation at $150 a pop). Now, I've been to the product website, and read up
on all its features, and it basically looks like a nice enough product, but
aimed squarely at PL/SQL developers, rather than including all the DBA-oriented
goodies we find in TOAD. My first reaction is to respond by saying fine,
give it to the developers to replace their copies of TOAD, if they find it
adequate for development, but it's not a DBA tool, so I'll keep my TOAD Xpert
with DBA module, thanks very much!. 
 
But if anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be
interested to know what you think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional for
developers? Does it have hidden charms which would make it a suitable
replacement for DBA use? How responsive are the product developers to requests
for enhancements? Any input is very welcome! 
 
  Paul Vincent 
  DBA 
  University of Central England 








RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-16 Thread Jared . Still

I forgot to include years of troubleshooting and debugging experience
the techniques to go with it.

:)

Jared








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TORA, OraC, sqlplus, vi, perl and a linux box to run it on, though the 
database servers are mostly Win2k. 

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A procedure return with no errors
  Priceless
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Management have been grumbling about the cost of TOAD Professional licenses, and have been recommended a cheaper product called PL/SQL Developer by Allround Automations (available from Inthink Corporation at $150 a pop). Now, I've been to the product website, and read up on all its features, and it basically looks like a nice enough product, but aimed squarely at PL/SQL developers, rather than including all the DBA-oriented goodies we find in TOAD. My first reaction is to respond by saying fine, give it to the developers to replace their copies of TOAD, if they find it adequate for development, but it's not a DBA tool, so I'll keep my TOAD Xpert with DBA module, thanks very much!. 
 
But if anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be interested to know what you think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional for developers? Does it have hidden charms which would make it a suitable replacement for DBA use? How responsive are the product developers to requests for enhancements? Any input is very welcome! 
 
Paul Vincent 
DBA 
University of Central England 



Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-15 Thread Paul Vincent



Management have been grumbling about the cost of TOAD Professional 
licenses, and have been "recommended" a cheaper product called PL/SQL Developer 
by Allround Automations (available from Inthink Corporation at $150 a pop). Now, 
I've been to the product website, and read up on all its features, and it 
basically looks like a nice enough product, but aimed squarely at PL/SQL 
developers, rather than including all the DBA-oriented goodies we find in TOAD. 
My first reaction is to respond by saying "fine, give it to the developers to 
replace their copies of TOAD, if they find it adequate for development, but it's 
not a DBA tool, so I'll keep my TOAD Xpert with DBA module, thanks very 
much!".

But if 
anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be interested to know what you 
think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional for developers? Does it have hidden 
charms which would make it a suitable replacement for DBA use? How responsive 
are the product developers to requests for enhancements? Any input is very 
welcome!

Paul 
Vincent
DBA
University of Central England


RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-15 Thread Rothouse, Michael
Title: Message



Management wants to standardize to a single tool for support and 
maintenance purposes. At least that's the story here. I have heard 
good things about PL/SQL Developer. If it's an option, you could checkout 
TOra (http://www.globecom.se/tora/) 
which is comparable to TOAD and $100 a license on Windows. This option 
offers some middle ground anyway.

  
  -Original Message-From: Paul Vincent 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 
  11:59 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement
  Management have been grumbling about the cost of TOAD Professional 
  licenses, and have been "recommended" a cheaper product called PL/SQL 
  Developer by Allround Automations (available from Inthink Corporation at $150 
  a pop). Now, I've been to the product website, and read up on all its 
  features, and it basically looks like a nice enough product, but aimed 
  squarely at PL/SQL developers, rather than including all the DBA-oriented 
  goodies we find in TOAD. My first reaction is to respond by saying "fine, give 
  it to the developers to replace their copies of TOAD, if they find it adequate 
  for development, but it's not a DBA tool, so I'll keep my TOAD Xpert with DBA 
  module, thanks very much!".
  
  But 
  if anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be interested to know what 
  you think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional for developers? Does it have 
  hidden charms which would make it a suitable replacement for DBA use? How 
  responsive are the product developers to requests for enhancements? Any input 
  is very welcome!
  
  Paul 
  Vincent
  DBA
  University of Central 
England


RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-15 Thread Rich Gesler



You 
are correct in that it is very developer centric. As far, as hidden 
charms...I'd have to say the Reports capabilities. You can easily 
incorporate your DBA scripts into this little tool. Still not as good as 
TOAD (or even TORA) for a DBA but a nice, cheap addition to the 
arsenal.
Download it and give it a try,
Rich

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  Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:59 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Opinions sought on possible TOAD 
  replacement
  Management have been grumbling about the cost of TOAD Professional 
  licenses, and have been "recommended" a cheaper product called PL/SQL 
  Developer by Allround Automations (available from Inthink Corporation at $150 
  a pop). Now, I've been to the product website, and read up on all its 
  features, and it basically looks like a nice enough product, but aimed 
  squarely at PL/SQL developers, rather than including all the DBA-oriented 
  goodies we find in TOAD. My first reaction is to respond by saying "fine, give 
  it to the developers to replace their copies of TOAD, if they find it adequate 
  for development, but it's not a DBA tool, so I'll keep my TOAD Xpert with DBA 
  module, thanks very much!".
  
  But 
  if anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be interested to know what 
  you think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional for developers? Does it have 
  hidden charms which would make it a suitable replacement for DBA use? How 
  responsive are the product developers to requests for enhancements? Any input 
  is very welcome!
  
  Paul 
  Vincent
  DBA
  University of Central 
England


RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-15 Thread Shamita Singh
You may also want to consider OraEdit Pro by DKG Advanced
Solutions Inc. (www.dkgas.com)

Shamita


Shamita Singh
Mohawk College
Hamilton, Ontario

--- Rich Gesler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You are correct in that it is very developer centric.  As far,
 as hidden
 charms...I'd have to say the Reports capabilities.  You can
 easily
 incorporate your DBA scripts into this little tool.  Still not
 as good as
 TOAD (or even TORA) for a DBA but a nice, cheap addition to
 the arsenal.
 Download it and give it a try,
 Rich
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of
 Paul Vincent
   Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:59 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement
 
 
   Management have been grumbling about the cost of TOAD
 Professional
 licenses, and have been recommended a cheaper product called
 PL/SQL
 Developer by Allround Automations (available from Inthink
 Corporation at
 $150 a pop). Now, I've been to the product website, and read
 up on all its
 features, and it basically looks like a nice enough product,
 but aimed
 squarely at PL/SQL developers, rather than including all the
 DBA-oriented
 goodies we find in TOAD. My first reaction is to respond by
 saying fine,
 give it to the developers to replace their copies of TOAD, if
 they find it
 adequate for development, but it's not a DBA tool, so I'll
 keep my TOAD
 Xpert with DBA module, thanks very much!.
 
   But if anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be
 interested to
 know what you think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional for
 developers?
 Does it have hidden charms which would make it a suitable
 replacement for
 DBA use? How responsive are the product developers to requests
 for
 enhancements? Any input is very welcome!
 
   Paul Vincent
   DBA
   University of Central England
 


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RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-15 Thread Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130)



Have 
you looked at Toolkit for Oracle (TOra)?

http://sourceforge.net/projects/tora/

I've 
heard rather good things about it.

Matt

Matt Adams - GE Appliances - 
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intelligence? 

-Original Message-From: Paul Vincent 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 
11:59 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement
Management have been grumbling about the cost of TOAD Professional 
licenses, and have been "recommended" a cheaper product called PL/SQL Developer 
by Allround Automations (available from Inthink Corporation at $150 a pop). Now, 
I've been to the product website, and read up on all its features, and it 
basically looks like a nice enough product, but aimed squarely at PL/SQL 
developers, rather than including all the DBA-oriented goodies we find in TOAD. 
My first reaction is to respond by saying "fine, give it to the developers to 
replace their copies of TOAD, if they find it adequate for development, but it's 
not a DBA tool, so I'll keep my TOAD Xpert with DBA module, thanks very 
much!".

But if 
anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be interested to know what you 
think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional for developers? Does it have hidden 
charms which would make it a suitable replacement for DBA use? How responsive 
are the product developers to requests for enhancements? Any input is very 
welcome!

Paul 
Vincent
DBA
University of Central England


RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-15 Thread Odland, Brad



TORA



  -Original Message-From: Paul Vincent 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 
  10:59 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement
  Management have been grumbling about the cost of TOAD Professional 
  licenses, and have been "recommended" a cheaper product called PL/SQL 
  Developer by Allround Automations (available from Inthink Corporation at $150 
  a pop). Now, I've been to the product website, and read up on all its 
  features, and it basically looks like a nice enough product, but aimed 
  squarely at PL/SQL developers, rather than including all the DBA-oriented 
  goodies we find in TOAD. My first reaction is to respond by saying "fine, give 
  it to the developers to replace their copies of TOAD, if they find it adequate 
  for development, but it's not a DBA tool, so I'll keep my TOAD Xpert with DBA 
  module, thanks very much!".
  
  But 
  if anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be interested to know what 
  you think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional for developers? Does it have 
  hidden charms which would make it a suitable replacement for DBA use? How 
  responsive are the product developers to requests for enhancements? Any input 
  is very welcome!
  
  Paul 
  Vincent
  DBA
  University of Central 
England


Re: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-15 Thread Jared . Still

TORA, OraC, sqlplus, vi, perl and a linux box to run it on, though the
database servers are mostly Win2k.

Software $0.00
OS $0.0
HW $12k

Jared







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Management have been grumbling about the cost of TOAD Professional licenses, and have been recommended a cheaper product called PL/SQL Developer by Allround Automations (available from Inthink Corporation at $150 a pop). Now, I've been to the product website, and read up on all its features, and it basically looks like a nice enough product, but aimed squarely at PL/SQL developers, rather than including all the DBA-oriented goodies we find in TOAD. My first reaction is to respond by saying fine, give it to the developers to replace their copies of TOAD, if they find it adequate for development, but it's not a DBA tool, so I'll keep my TOAD Xpert with DBA module, thanks very much!.

But if anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be interested to know what you think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional for developers? Does it have hidden charms which would make it a suitable replacement for DBA use? How responsive are the product developers to requests for enhancements? Any input is very welcome!

Paul Vincent
DBA
University of Central England



possible to have a primary key with a bitmap indx?

2003-09-23 Thread rgaffuri
is it possible to have a primary key that is enforced with a bitmap index? 

if so what is the syntax? 

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RE: possible to have a primary key with a bitmap index?

2003-09-23 Thread Igor Neyman
I don't know what's the syntax (or if it even exists).
But, logically bitmap indexes are for the columns with low cardinality,
while primary key index is unique.  So, why do you want bitmap index for
your primary key?

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if so what is the syntax? 

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RE: possible to have a primary key with a bitmap indx?

2003-09-23 Thread Stephane Paquette
A bitmap index is for a low cardinality column, so I doubt it would be a
good idea to use it to enforce a primary key.


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RE: possible to have a primary key with a bitmap indx?

2003-09-23 Thread Mladen Gogala
It's not possible:



SQL create bitmap index emp_empno_b on emp(empno);

Index created.

SQL alter table emp add constraint emp_pk primary key(empno) using index
emp_empno_b novalidate;
alter table emp add constraint emp_pk primary key(empno) using index
emp_empno_b novalidate
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01418: specified index does not exist


SQL drop index emp_empno_b;

Index dropped.

SQL create index  emp_empno_b on emp(empno);

Index created.

SQL  alter table emp add constraint emp_pk primary key(empno) using index
emp_empno_b novalidate;

Table altered.

SQL 

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Re: possible to have a primary key with a bitmap index?

2003-09-23 Thread Ryan
im just playing around and testing things. 
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 I don't know what's the syntax (or if it even exists).
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RE: possible to have a primary key with a bitmap index?

2003-09-23 Thread Igor Neyman
Keep playing -:)

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RE: possible to have a primary key with a bitmap indx?

2003-09-23 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Restrictions on Unique Indexes
You cannot specify both UNIQUE and BITMAP

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It's not possible:



SQL create bitmap index emp_empno_b on emp(empno);

Index created.

SQL alter table emp add constraint emp_pk primary key(empno) using index
emp_empno_b novalidate;
alter table emp add constraint emp_pk primary key(empno) using index
emp_empno_b novalidate
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01418: specified index does not exist


SQL drop index emp_empno_b;

Index dropped.

SQL create index  emp_empno_b on emp(empno);

Index created.

SQL  alter table emp add constraint emp_pk primary key(empno) using index
emp_empno_b novalidate;

Table altered.

SQL 

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RE: possible to have a primary key with a bitmap indx?

2003-09-23 Thread Mladen Gogala
Yes, but you can enforce a PK constraint without a unique index. If you take
a look at the code, you'll see that my index is also nonunique.
Theoretically, 
there shouldn't be much difference between non-unique indexes and bitmap 
indexes. Practically, there is.

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 Restrictions on Unique Indexes
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 It's not possible:
 
 
 
 SQL create bitmap index emp_empno_b on emp(empno);
 
 Index created.
 
 SQL alter table emp add constraint emp_pk primary key(empno) using 
 SQL index
 emp_empno_b novalidate;
 alter table emp add constraint emp_pk primary key(empno) 
 using index emp_empno_b novalidate
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-01418: specified index does not exist
 
 
 SQL drop index emp_empno_b;
 
 Index dropped.
 
 SQL create index  emp_empno_b on emp(empno);
 
 Index created.
 
 SQL  alter table emp add constraint emp_pk primary key(empno) using 
 SQL index
 emp_empno_b novalidate;
 
 Table altered.
 
 SQL 
 
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RE: possible to have a primary key with a bitmap indx?

2003-09-23 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
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 is it possible to have a primary key that is enforced with a 
 bitmap index? 


I don't think so. Here's an example from a 9.2.0.3 database:
SQL create table t (v varchar2 (10), d date) ;
Table créée.
SQL create bitmap index bit1 on t (v) ;
Index créé.
SQL alter table t add (constraint t_pk primary key (v)) ;
alter table t add (constraint t_pk primary key (v))
*
ERREUR à la ligne 1 :
ORA-01408: such column list already indexed
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RE: ORA-600 Error [Possible Data Loss]

2003-09-22 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
We have found the cause of the problem.  If populate the varray for a row with 100 
values, copy that data to a temporary table and then perform split and exchange 
partition operations everything is fine.  However if we populate the varray with 1000 
values for a row and then perform the same operations.  Selecting from the partition 
results in the error.

For those wanting details ...

create or replace type int_values as varray(16384) of number(38);
create table arch_wave_i
(pv_id number(38),
timestamp date,
nanosecs number(9),
stat number(8),
sevr number(8),
ostat number(16),
value int_values)
partition by range (timestamp)
( partition first values less than
(TO_DATE('01/01/2003 00:00:00', 'mm/dd/ hh24:mi:ss')),
partition bin values less than (MAXVALUE) );
create index archive_wave_index on archive_wave_i (timestamp, pv_id) local;
create table arch_wave_i
(pv_id number(38),
timestamp date,
nanosecs number(9),
stat number(8),
sevr number(8),
ostat number(16),
value int_values)
partition by range (timestamp)
( partition first values less than
(TO_DATE('01/01/2003 00:00:00', 'mm/dd/ hh24:mi:ss')),
partition SEP1803 values less than
(TO_DATE('09/19/2003 00:00:00', 'mm/dd/ hh24:mi:ss')),
partition bin values less than (MAXVALUE) );
create index arch_wave_i_index on arch_wave_i (timestamp, pv_id) local;
To create the error
To recreate the problem:
1. Populate arch_wave_i with one or more rows that have the
following characteristics:
a. the timestamp field is = '09/18/2003 00:00:00' and
 '09/19/2003 00:00:00'
b. the value field is an array of 1000 or more integer
values (the actual values do not matter)
c. the other fields (pv_id, nanosecs, stat, sevr, ostat)
may be set to 0
2. create table temp_wave_i as select * from arch_wave_i;
3. create index temp_wave_i_index on temp_wave_i (timestamp, pv_id);
4. alter session set nls_date_format = 'mm/dd/ hh24:mi:ss';
5. alter table archive_wave_i split partition bin at
('09/19/2003 00:00:00') into
(partition SEP1803, partition bin);
6. alter table archive_wave_i exchange partition SEP1803 with
table temp_wave_i including indexes with validation;
7. select * from archive_wave_i partition (SEP1803);
This results in one of the following messages:
a. ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments:
[koxsisz1], [1], [], [], [], [], [], []
b. ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments:
[kcbgtcr_4], [2094072], [0], [1], [], [], [], []
Sometimes the second argument is 2094096 or 2094120


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Ian,

I was going to recommend to try exporting your problematic partition with direct=y, 
that way normal SQL query processing layer is bypassed in Oracle kernel  all data 
belonging to segment is read directly (thus hopefully avoiding the koxsisz1 crash) ... 
but I'm not sure whether varrays don't turn exp to conventional as is the case with 
objects and LOBs...

Tanel.

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 The error was first discovered when we tried to move a partition. ( 
 alter
table archive_wave_i move partition SEP1103 tablespace
CHANARCH_NLC_2003_09_DATA).   The table was renamed to OLD_archive_wave_i
once it was determined that no new varray data was accessible. My theory is that this 
is logical corruption of the data dictionary, but I have not worked out the 
particulars.

 Selecting via an index or FTS does not matter.  What type of error do 
 you
believe koxsisz1 to be?

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 Hi!

 If even Oracle hasn't seen this error, then probably we can't help 
 much
here either. Just a wild guess, try to move this partition to another location and 
select from it then (although koxsisz1 isn't a data layer error as far as I 
understand). Try to read using index if available, then using full hint etc..

 Tanel.

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  This is not my week ...
 
  Has anyone seen anything like this
 
  select value from chanarch_nlc.old_archive_wave_i partition 
  (SEP1603)
 where pv_id =
 *
  ERROR at line 1:
  ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [koxsisz1], [1], [], [], 
  [],
 [], [],
  []
 
  I have Oracle support working on the problem.They say they have
never
 seen such an error before.  Oracle though often tells me that. The 
 table
looks like
 
  Name  Null?Type
  - 
  ---
 -
  PV_ID  NUMBER(38)
  TIMESTAMP  

Re: ORA-600 Error [Possible Data Loss]

2003-09-18 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi!

If even Oracle hasn't seen this error, then probably we can't help much here
either. Just a wild guess, try to move this partition to another location
and select from it then (although koxsisz1 isn't a data layer error as far
as I understand). Try to read using index if available, then using full hint
etc..

Tanel.

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 This is not my week ...

 Has anyone seen anything like this

 select value from chanarch_nlc.old_archive_wave_i partition (SEP1603)
where pv_id =
*
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [koxsisz1], [1], [], [], [],
[], [],
 []

 I have Oracle support working on the problem.They say they have never
seen such an error before.  Oracle though often tells me that. The table
looks like

 Name  Null?Type
 -  ---
-
 PV_ID  NUMBER(38)
 TIMESTAMP  DATE
 NANOSECS   NUMBER(9)
 STAT   NUMBER(8)
 SEVR   NUMBER(8)
 OSTAT  NUMBER(16)
 VALUE  CHANARCH_NLC.INT_VALUES

 The last column is a varray.  I can retrieve any of the other columns from
that partition.
 I can also retrieve the value column from any partition before September
11, 2003.
 Any partition after that fails with the 0ra-600 error  when  the value
column is selected.

 DBV at first gave errors along the lines of

 BV-00102: File I/O error on FILE
 (/u9/oradata/NLCO/chanarch_nlc_active_data01.dbf) during end read op
 eration (-1)

 The file is 2018 MB in size.  But resizing the files downwards and back up
again  fixed
 That problem.  The files are allowed to autoextend with 2018 being the
maximum size.

 This is not the same database which had the  RAID problem.

 Ian MacGregor
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RE: ORA-600 Error [Possible Data Loss]

2003-09-18 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
The error was first discovered when we tried to move a partition. ( alter table 
archive_wave_i move partition SEP1103 tablespace CHANARCH_NLC_2003_09_DATA).   The 
table was renamed to OLD_archive_wave_i once it was determined that no new varray data 
was accessible. My theory is that this is logical corruption of the data dictionary, 
but I have not worked out the particulars.

Selecting via an index or FTS does not matter.  What type of error do you believe 
koxsisz1 to be?

Ian MacGregor
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Hi!

If even Oracle hasn't seen this error, then probably we can't help much here either. 
Just a wild guess, try to move this partition to another location and select from it 
then (although koxsisz1 isn't a data layer error as far as I understand). Try to read 
using index if available, then using full hint etc..

Tanel.

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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:04 AM


 This is not my week ...

 Has anyone seen anything like this

 select value from chanarch_nlc.old_archive_wave_i partition (SEP1603)
where pv_id =
*
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [koxsisz1], [1], [], [], 
 [],
[], [],
 []

 I have Oracle support working on the problem.They say they have never
seen such an error before.  Oracle though often tells me that. The table looks like

 Name  Null?Type
 -  
 ---
-
 PV_ID  NUMBER(38)
 TIMESTAMP  DATE
 NANOSECS   NUMBER(9)
 STAT   NUMBER(8)
 SEVR   NUMBER(8)
 OSTAT  NUMBER(16)
 VALUE  CHANARCH_NLC.INT_VALUES

 The last column is a varray.  I can retrieve any of the other columns 
 from
that partition.
 I can also retrieve the value column from any partition before 
 September
11, 2003.
 Any partition after that fails with the 0ra-600 error  when  the value
column is selected.

 DBV at first gave errors along the lines of

 BV-00102: File I/O error on FILE
 (/u9/oradata/NLCO/chanarch_nlc_active_data01.dbf) during end read op 
 eration (-1)

 The file is 2018 MB in size.  But resizing the files downwards and 
 back up
again  fixed
 That problem.  The files are allowed to autoextend with 2018 being the
maximum size.

 This is not the same database which had the  RAID problem.

 Ian MacGregor
 Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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Re: ORA-600 Error [Possible Data Loss]

2003-09-18 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi!

I'm on thin ice here, but I think KO means some sort of object layer (KOC is
Kernel-Object-Cache module as far as I understand), so koxsisz1 has probably
something to do with objects as well (thus not caching, x might mean execute
or transaction or anything else:). On the other hand, varrays are somewhat
related to objects as well, at least in sense that they are data structures,
not basic datatypes.

(This one probably won't work, but try to temporarily increase
OBJECT_CACHE_MAX_SIZE_PERCENT and OBJECT_CACHE_OPTIMAL_SIZE in your session
(put first one to 1000 and second one to 1048576 for example). Maybe there
are some specific problems with caching your varray in client side, but as I
said I doubt it will help (but it's easy to try out).)

Otherwise, try to isolate those varrays causing you problem. Are all varrays
in SEP1603 partition unusable? Only some of them? Only new ones? Are any
other partitions affected? One more way would be to take one working record
and insert it to new partition. If now the new record gets unusable again,
it's possible to take relevant blockdumps for both these records, to see
whether theres any difference in low-level data.

For summary, since you had some file IO errors (as shown by DBV), you might
have corrupted your data during the move operation. Maybe some disk
controller or memory caused this error...

Tanel.

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 The error was first discovered when we tried to move a partition. ( alter
table archive_wave_i move partition SEP1103 tablespace
CHANARCH_NLC_2003_09_DATA).   The table was renamed to OLD_archive_wave_i
once it was determined that no new varray data was accessible. My theory is
that this is logical corruption of the data dictionary, but I have not
worked out the particulars.

 Selecting via an index or FTS does not matter.  What type of error do you
believe koxsisz1 to be?

 Ian MacGregor
 Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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 Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:13 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Hi!

 If even Oracle hasn't seen this error, then probably we can't help much
here either. Just a wild guess, try to move this partition to another
location and select from it then (although koxsisz1 isn't a data layer error
as far as I understand). Try to read using index if available, then using
full hint etc..

 Tanel.

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 Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:04 AM


  This is not my week ...
 
  Has anyone seen anything like this
 
  select value from chanarch_nlc.old_archive_wave_i partition (SEP1603)
 where pv_id =
 *
  ERROR at line 1:
  ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [koxsisz1], [1], [], [],
  [],
 [], [],
  []
 
  I have Oracle support working on the problem.They say they have
never
 seen such an error before.  Oracle though often tells me that. The table
looks like
 
  Name  Null?Type
  -  
  ---
 -
  PV_ID  NUMBER(38)
  TIMESTAMP  DATE
  NANOSECS   NUMBER(9)
  STAT   NUMBER(8)
  SEVR   NUMBER(8)
  OSTAT  NUMBER(16)
  VALUE
CHANARCH_NLC.INT_VALUES
 
  The last column is a varray.  I can retrieve any of the other columns
  from
 that partition.
  I can also retrieve the value column from any partition before
  September
 11, 2003.
  Any partition after that fails with the 0ra-600 error  when  the value
 column is selected.
 
  DBV at first gave errors along the lines of
 
  BV-00102: File I/O error on FILE
  (/u9/oradata/NLCO/chanarch_nlc_active_data01.dbf) during end read op
  eration (-1)
 
  The file is 2018 MB in size.  But resizing the files downwards and
  back up
 again  fixed
  That problem.  The files are allowed to autoextend with 2018 being the
 maximum size.
 
  This is not the same database which had the  RAID problem.
 
  Ian MacGregor
  Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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Re: ORA-600 Error [Possible Data Loss]

2003-09-18 Thread Tanel Poder
Ian,

I was going to recommend to try exporting your problematic partition with
direct=y, that way normal SQL query processing layer is bypassed in Oracle
kernel  all data belonging to segment is read directly (thus hopefully
avoiding the koxsisz1 crash) ... but I'm not sure whether varrays don't turn
exp to conventional as is the case with objects and LOBs...

Tanel.

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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:29 PM


 The error was first discovered when we tried to move a partition. ( alter
table archive_wave_i move partition SEP1103 tablespace
CHANARCH_NLC_2003_09_DATA).   The table was renamed to OLD_archive_wave_i
once it was determined that no new varray data was accessible. My theory is
that this is logical corruption of the data dictionary, but I have not
worked out the particulars.

 Selecting via an index or FTS does not matter.  What type of error do you
believe koxsisz1 to be?

 Ian MacGregor
 Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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 Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:13 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Hi!

 If even Oracle hasn't seen this error, then probably we can't help much
here either. Just a wild guess, try to move this partition to another
location and select from it then (although koxsisz1 isn't a data layer error
as far as I understand). Try to read using index if available, then using
full hint etc..

 Tanel.

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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:04 AM


  This is not my week ...
 
  Has anyone seen anything like this
 
  select value from chanarch_nlc.old_archive_wave_i partition (SEP1603)
 where pv_id =
 *
  ERROR at line 1:
  ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [koxsisz1], [1], [], [],
  [],
 [], [],
  []
 
  I have Oracle support working on the problem.They say they have
never
 seen such an error before.  Oracle though often tells me that. The table
looks like
 
  Name  Null?Type
  -  
  ---
 -
  PV_ID  NUMBER(38)
  TIMESTAMP  DATE
  NANOSECS   NUMBER(9)
  STAT   NUMBER(8)
  SEVR   NUMBER(8)
  OSTAT  NUMBER(16)
  VALUE
CHANARCH_NLC.INT_VALUES
 
  The last column is a varray.  I can retrieve any of the other columns
  from
 that partition.
  I can also retrieve the value column from any partition before
  September
 11, 2003.
  Any partition after that fails with the 0ra-600 error  when  the value
 column is selected.
 
  DBV at first gave errors along the lines of
 
  BV-00102: File I/O error on FILE
  (/u9/oradata/NLCO/chanarch_nlc_active_data01.dbf) during end read op
  eration (-1)
 
  The file is 2018 MB in size.  But resizing the files downwards and
  back up
 again  fixed
  That problem.  The files are allowed to autoextend with 2018 being the
 maximum size.
 
  This is not the same database which had the  RAID problem.
 
  Ian MacGregor
  Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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RE: ORA-600 Error [Possible Data Loss]

2003-09-18 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
The varray data is stored in a LOB.   So I expect direct export will not work.  But 
I'll give it a try.


Ian



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Ian,

I was going to recommend to try exporting your problematic partition with direct=y, 
that way normal SQL query processing layer is bypassed in Oracle kernel  all data 
belonging to segment is read directly (thus hopefully avoiding the koxsisz1 crash) ... 
but I'm not sure whether varrays don't turn exp to conventional as is the case with 
objects and LOBs...

Tanel.

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:29 PM


 The error was first discovered when we tried to move a partition. ( 
 alter
table archive_wave_i move partition SEP1103 tablespace
CHANARCH_NLC_2003_09_DATA).   The table was renamed to OLD_archive_wave_i
once it was determined that no new varray data was accessible. My theory is that this 
is logical corruption of the data dictionary, but I have not worked out the 
particulars.

 Selecting via an index or FTS does not matter.  What type of error do 
 you
believe koxsisz1 to be?

 Ian MacGregor
 Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:13 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Hi!

 If even Oracle hasn't seen this error, then probably we can't help 
 much
here either. Just a wild guess, try to move this partition to another location and 
select from it then (although koxsisz1 isn't a data layer error as far as I 
understand). Try to read using index if available, then using full hint etc..

 Tanel.

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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:04 AM


  This is not my week ...
 
  Has anyone seen anything like this
 
  select value from chanarch_nlc.old_archive_wave_i partition 
  (SEP1603)
 where pv_id =
 *
  ERROR at line 1:
  ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [koxsisz1], [1], [], [], 
  [],
 [], [],
  []
 
  I have Oracle support working on the problem.They say they have
never
 seen such an error before.  Oracle though often tells me that. The 
 table
looks like
 
  Name  Null?Type
  - 
  ---
 -
  PV_ID  NUMBER(38)
  TIMESTAMP  DATE
  NANOSECS   NUMBER(9)
  STAT   NUMBER(8)
  SEVR   NUMBER(8)
  OSTAT  NUMBER(16)
  VALUE
CHANARCH_NLC.INT_VALUES
 
  The last column is a varray.  I can retrieve any of the other 
  columns from
 that partition.
  I can also retrieve the value column from any partition before 
  September
 11, 2003.
  Any partition after that fails with the 0ra-600 error  when  the 
  value
 column is selected.
 
  DBV at first gave errors along the lines of
 
  BV-00102: File I/O error on FILE
  (/u9/oradata/NLCO/chanarch_nlc_active_data01.dbf) during end read op 
  eration (-1)
 
  The file is 2018 MB in size.  But resizing the files downwards and 
  back up
 again  fixed
  That problem.  The files are allowed to autoextend with 2018 being 
  the
 maximum size.
 
  This is not the same database which had the  RAID problem.
 
  Ian MacGregor
  Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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ORA-600 Error [Possible Data Loss]

2003-09-17 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
This is not my week ...

Has anyone seen anything like this

select value from chanarch_nlc.old_archive_wave_i partition (SEP1603) where pv_id =
   *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [koxsisz1], [1], [], [], [], [], [],
[]

I have Oracle support working on the problem.They say they have never seen such an 
error before.  Oracle though often tells me that. The table looks like

Name  Null?Type
-  
PV_ID  NUMBER(38)
TIMESTAMP  DATE
NANOSECS   NUMBER(9)
STAT   NUMBER(8)
SEVR   NUMBER(8)
OSTAT  NUMBER(16)
VALUE  CHANARCH_NLC.INT_VALUES

The last column is a varray.  I can retrieve any of the other columns from that 
partition.
I can also retrieve the value column from any partition before September 11, 2003.  
Any partition after that fails with the 0ra-600 error  when  the value column is 
selected.

DBV at first gave errors along the lines of 

BV-00102: File I/O error on FILE
(/u9/oradata/NLCO/chanarch_nlc_active_data01.dbf) during end read op
eration (-1)

The file is 2018 MB in size.  But resizing the files downwards and back up again  fixed
That problem.  The files are allowed to autoextend with 2018 being the maximum size.

This is not the same database which had the  RAID problem. 

Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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Re: possible to dynamicly connect to a different user in pl/sql?

2003-08-24 Thread Yechiel Adar
I think that there are two reasons to do it:

1) You need permissions that are granted to another user
2) You need to work in another schema and you have permissions to these
objects.

In 1) you can grant yourself the necessary permissions.
in 2) try execute immediate 'alter session set current schema' (I did not
check if this will work in PL/sql.

Yechiel Adar
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 I doubt it... but this could save me from coding it into a unix script and
keeping all my code in my package. I tried

 execute immediate 'connect user/password; and it failed.

 is this doable?

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possible to dynamicly connect to a different user in pl/sql?

2003-08-20 Thread rgaffuri
I doubt it... but this could save me from coding it into a unix script and keeping all 
my code in my package. I tried

execute immediate 'connect user/password; and it failed.

is this doable? 

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RE: possible to dynamicly connect to a different user in pl/sql?

2003-08-20 Thread Pardee, Roy E
My guess is that 'connect' is a sql*plus command (rather than a pl/sql command)  so 
wouldn't work with execute immediate.

But maybe you could break out the portions of your code that need to run as a 
different user into a separate package, owned by that user?

HTH,

-Roy

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I doubt it... but this could save me from coding it into a unix script and keeping all 
my code in my package. I tried

execute immediate 'connect user/password; and it failed.

is this doable? 

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Re: RE: possible to dynamicly connect to a different user in pl/sql?

2003-08-20 Thread rgaffuri
the user would be sys. I need to create grants to DBA_ views on the fly so we can 
scale an application. We add new users and some of them need access to these to run a 
load process properly. 

ill just run it from unix. 
 
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 Date: 2003/08/20 Wed PM 01:24:25 EDT
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 Subject: RE: possible to dynamicly connect to a different user in pl/sql?
 
 My guess is that 'connect' is a sql*plus command (rather than a pl/sql command)  so 
 wouldn't work with execute immediate.
 
 But maybe you could break out the portions of your code that need to run as a 
 different user into a separate package, owned by that user?
 
 HTH,
 
 -Roy
 
 Roy Pardee
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 I doubt it... but this could save me from coding it into a unix script and keeping 
 all my code in my package. I tried
 
 execute immediate 'connect user/password; and it failed.
 
 is this doable? 
 
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possible to set max_extents for lobs at tablespace level?

2003-08-14 Thread rgaffuri
my max_extents for my tablespace is set to 505, yet all my lob segments default to a 
max_extent of 121. 

is it possible to have them use the tablespace default? or set up a default for all 
lob segments to use? 

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RE: possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2

2003-08-14 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
I've no experience with Peoplesoft and Oracle 9, but  ..

Try setting the following parameters

optimizer_features_enable = 8.1.6

As I recall this prevented Oracle from incorrectly tossing out some subselects.  I'm 
not sure if it is even valid in 9iR2

_ignore_desc_in_index = TRUE

Not setting this can result in horrendous performance problems.

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Can you please list select emplid, empl_rcd, effdt, effseq,  empl_status 
from ps_job where emplid = '3442'

At 03:34 PM 8/6/2003 -0800, you wrote:
While I am waiting for oracle support to respond to my tar update (2nd
callback) I am just wondering if anybody has found this problem.

We have the following select query (from a peoplesoft implementation)

SELECT a.emplid, a.effdt
FROM PS_JOB A
WHERE A.EFFDT = (SELECT MAX(A1.EFFDT)  FROM PS_JOB A1 WHERE A.EMPLID = 
A1.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD = A1.EMPL_RCD  AND A1.EFFDT = SYSDATE) AND 
A.EFFSEQ =  (SELECT MAX(A2.EFFSEQ)  FROM PS_JOB A2  WHERE A.EMPLID = 
A2.EMPLID  AND A.EMPL_RCD = A2.EMPL_RCD  AND A.EFFDT = A2.EFFDT) AND 
A.EMPL_STATUS = 'A' and a.emplid='3442'

when we run the query we get one row back, but when we replace the 
field names with count(*), the resulting answer back is 2. We have 
tested it in 8.0.5.1.1 and we get the correct results, 1 row, and a 
count of 1.

Darren

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possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2

2003-08-14 Thread Browett, Darren
While I am waiting for oracle support to respond to my tar update (2nd
callback) I am just wondering if anybody has found this problem.

We have the following select query (from a peoplesoft implementation)

SELECT a.emplid, a.effdt
FROM PS_JOB A
WHERE A.EFFDT = (SELECT MAX(A1.EFFDT)  FROM PS_JOB A1 WHERE A.EMPLID =
A1.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD = A1.EMPL_RCD  AND A1.EFFDT = SYSDATE)
AND A.EFFSEQ =  (SELECT MAX(A2.EFFSEQ)  FROM PS_JOB A2  WHERE A.EMPLID =
A2.EMPLID  AND A.EMPL_RCD = A2.EMPL_RCD  AND A.EFFDT = A2.EFFDT)
AND A.EMPL_STATUS = 'A'
and a.emplid='3442'

when we run the query we get one row back, but when we replace the field
names with count(*), the resulting answer back is 2.  
We have tested it in 8.0.5.1.1 and we get the correct results, 1 row,
and a count of 1.

Darren


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RE: possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2

2003-08-14 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2





You it is a bug  



alter session|system set _unnest_subquery=false
/



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From: Browett, Darren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2



While I am waiting for oracle support to respond to my tar update (2nd
callback) I am just wondering if anybody has found this problem.


We have the following select query (from a peoplesoft implementation)


SELECT a.emplid, a.effdt
FROM PS_JOB A
WHERE A.EFFDT = (SELECT MAX(A1.EFFDT) FROM PS_JOB A1 WHERE A.EMPLID =
A1.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD = A1.EMPL_RCD AND A1.EFFDT = SYSDATE)
AND A.EFFSEQ = (SELECT MAX(A2.EFFSEQ) FROM PS_JOB A2 WHERE A.EMPLID =
A2.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD = A2.EMPL_RCD AND A.EFFDT = A2.EFFDT)
AND A.EMPL_STATUS = 'A'
and a.emplid='3442'


when we run the query we get one row back, but when we replace the field
names with count(*), the resulting answer back is 2. 
We have tested it in 8.0.5.1.1 and we get the correct results, 1 row,
and a count of 1.


Darren



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RE: possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2

2003-08-14 Thread Browett, Darren
Title: Message



That 
fixed it, thank you.

I 
still haven't heard from oracle support yet.

  
  -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, 
  Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 
  August 07, 2003 4:44 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: possible Bug in Oracle 
  9.2.0.2
  You it is a bug  
  alter session|system set "_unnest_subquery"=false 
  / 
   
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. 
  QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art 
  ! 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Browett, Darren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2 
  While I am waiting for oracle support to respond to my tar 
  update (2nd callback) I am just wondering if anybody 
  has found this problem. 
  We have the following select query (from a peoplesoft 
  implementation) 
  SELECT a.emplid, a.effdt FROM PS_JOB 
  A WHERE A.EFFDT = (SELECT MAX(A1.EFFDT) FROM 
  PS_JOB A1 WHERE A.EMPLID = A1.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD = 
  A1.EMPL_RCD AND A1.EFFDT = SYSDATE) AND 
  A.EFFSEQ = (SELECT MAX(A2.EFFSEQ) FROM PS_JOB A2 WHERE 
  A.EMPLID = A2.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD = 
  A2.EMPL_RCD AND A.EFFDT = A2.EFFDT) AND 
  A.EMPL_STATUS = 'A' and a.emplid='3442' 
  when we run the query we get one row back, but when we replace 
  the field names with count(*), the resulting answer 
  back is "2". We have tested it in 8.0.5.1.1 and 
  we get the correct results, 1 row, and a count of 
  1. 
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RE: possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2

2003-08-14 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Did you open an iTar with Oracle? If so, what severity was it logged at? How
you answer certain questions on the iTAR form will impact the severity of
the tar, and as a result the time for responses from Oracle.

RF

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That fixed it, thank you.
 
I still haven't heard from oracle support yet.

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You it is a bug  


alter session|system set _unnest_subquery=false 
/ 


 
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 


While I am waiting for oracle support to respond to my tar update (2nd 
callback) I am just wondering if anybody has found this problem. 

We have the following select query (from a peoplesoft implementation) 

SELECT a.emplid, a.effdt 
FROM PS_JOB A 
WHERE A.EFFDT = (SELECT MAX(A1.EFFDT)  FROM PS_JOB A1 WHERE A.EMPLID = 
A1.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD = A1.EMPL_RCD  AND A1.EFFDT = SYSDATE) 
AND A.EFFSEQ =  (SELECT MAX(A2.EFFSEQ)  FROM PS_JOB A2  WHERE A.EMPLID =

A2.EMPLID  AND A.EMPL_RCD = A2.EMPL_RCD  AND A.EFFDT = A2.EFFDT) 
AND A.EMPL_STATUS = 'A' 
and a.emplid='3442' 

when we run the query we get one row back, but when we replace the field

names with count(*), the resulting answer back is 2.  
We have tested it in 8.0.5.1.1 and we get the correct results, 1 row, 
and a count of 1. 

Darren 



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Re: possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2

2003-08-09 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Can you please list select emplid, empl_rcd, effdt, effseq,  empl_status 
from ps_job where emplid = '3442'

At 03:34 PM 8/6/2003 -0800, you wrote:
While I am waiting for oracle support to respond to my tar update (2nd
callback) I am just wondering if anybody has found this problem.
We have the following select query (from a peoplesoft implementation)

SELECT a.emplid, a.effdt
FROM PS_JOB A
WHERE A.EFFDT = (SELECT MAX(A1.EFFDT)  FROM PS_JOB A1 WHERE A.EMPLID =
A1.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD = A1.EMPL_RCD  AND A1.EFFDT = SYSDATE)
AND A.EFFSEQ =  (SELECT MAX(A2.EFFSEQ)  FROM PS_JOB A2  WHERE A.EMPLID =
A2.EMPLID  AND A.EMPL_RCD = A2.EMPL_RCD  AND A.EFFDT = A2.EFFDT)
AND A.EMPL_STATUS = 'A'
and a.emplid='3442'
when we run the query we get one row back, but when we replace the field
names with count(*), the resulting answer back is 2.
We have tested it in 8.0.5.1.1 and we get the correct results, 1 row,
and a count of 1.
Darren


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RE: possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2

2003-08-08 Thread Browett, Darren
Title: Message



I 
already have :)

  
  -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, 
  Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 
  August 07, 2003 12:04 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: possible Bug in Oracle 
  9.2.0.2
  Tell them ...
  
  Raj
   
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot 
  com All Views expressed in this 
  email are strictly personal. QOTD: 
  Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! 
  
-Original Message-From: Browett, Darren 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 
2:49 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: possible Bug in Oracle 
9.2.0.2
That fixed it, thank you.

I 
still haven't heard from oracle support yet.

  
  -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, 
  Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 
  August 07, 2003 4:44 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: possible Bug in Oracle 
  9.2.0.2
  You it is a bug  
  alter session|system set "_unnest_subquery"=false 
  / 
   
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com 
  All Views expressed in this email are strictly 
  personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an 
  opinion is an art ! 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Browett, Darren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2 
  While I am waiting for oracle support to respond to my tar 
  update (2nd callback) I am just wondering if 
  anybody has found this problem. 
  We have the following select query (from a peoplesoft 
  implementation) 
  SELECT a.emplid, a.effdt FROM 
  PS_JOB A WHERE A.EFFDT = (SELECT 
  MAX(A1.EFFDT) FROM PS_JOB A1 WHERE A.EMPLID = A1.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD = A1.EMPL_RCD AND A1.EFFDT = 
  SYSDATE) AND A.EFFSEQ = (SELECT 
  MAX(A2.EFFSEQ) FROM PS_JOB A2 WHERE A.EMPLID = 
  A2.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD = A2.EMPL_RCD AND 
  A.EFFDT = A2.EFFDT) AND A.EMPL_STATUS = 'A' 
  and a.emplid='3442' 
  when we run the query we get one row back, but when we 
  replace the field names with count(*), the 
  resulting answer back is "2". We have tested 
  it in 8.0.5.1.1 and we get the correct results, 1 row, and a count of 1. 
  Darren 
   
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RE: possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2

2003-08-07 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: Message



Tell them ...

Raj
 
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot 
com All Views expressed in this email 
are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod 
can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! 

  -Original Message-From: Browett, Darren 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:49 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2
  That 
  fixed it, thank you.
  
  I 
  still haven't heard from oracle support yet.
  

-Original Message-From: Jamadagni, 
Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 
August 07, 2003 4:44 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: possible Bug in Oracle 
9.2.0.2
You it is a bug  
alter session|system set "_unnest_subquery"=false 
/ 
 
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com 
All Views expressed in this email are strictly 
personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an 
opinion is an art ! 
-Original Message- From: 
Browett, Darren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2 
While I am waiting for oracle support to respond to my tar 
update (2nd callback) I am just wondering if anybody 
has found this problem. 
We have the following select query (from a peoplesoft 
implementation) 
SELECT a.emplid, a.effdt FROM PS_JOB 
A WHERE A.EFFDT = (SELECT MAX(A1.EFFDT) FROM 
PS_JOB A1 WHERE A.EMPLID = A1.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD 
= A1.EMPL_RCD AND A1.EFFDT = SYSDATE) AND 
A.EFFSEQ = (SELECT MAX(A2.EFFSEQ) FROM PS_JOB A2 WHERE 
A.EMPLID = A2.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD = 
A2.EMPL_RCD AND A.EFFDT = A2.EFFDT) AND 
A.EMPL_STATUS = 'A' and a.emplid='3442' 
when we run the query we get one row back, but when we 
replace the field names with count(*), the resulting 
answer back is "2". We have tested it in 
8.0.5.1.1 and we get the correct results, 1 row, and 
a count of 1. 
Darren 
 
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Re: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Fink
Building on Jacques' solution, here is one that aligns all the statements nice and 
neat. Of course, it does not have the username/instance, so I don't know how 
acceptable it is

select '  1  ' 
as new_prompt
from dual
/

set sqlprompt new_sqlprompt


  1  select 1,
  2  2,
  3  3,
  4  4,
  5  5,
  6  6,
  7  7,
  8  8,
  9  9,
 10  10
 11  from dual;


 1  2  3  4  5  6  7  
8  9 10
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- 
-- -- --
 1  2  3  4  5  6  7  
8  9 10




Jacques Kilchoer wrote:
 
 You can always set your prompt to take up two lines, but that looks ugly to me too.
 See example.
 SQL show user
 USER est SYSTEM
 SQL show sqlprompt
 sqlprompt SQL 
 SQL -- change prompt to be connected username and last 4
 SQL --  characters of instance name
 SQL column new_prompt new_value new_sqlprompt
 SQL select
   2 user || '@' || chr (10) ||
   3   substr (instance_name, length (instance_name) - 3) || ''
   4   as new_prompt
   5   from v$instance ;
 
 NEW_PROMPT
 -
 SYSTEM@
 jrk1
 
 SQL set sqlprompt new_sqlprompt
 SYSTEM@
 jrk1select *
   2  from dual ;
 
 D
 -
 X
 
 SYSTEM@
 jrk1
 
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  Apologies--I wasn't clear in my original post.  Right now I'm getting:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
2  from dba_users
3  where username like '%MC%' ;
 
  What I'd *really* like to have is:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
 2  from dba_users
 3  where username like '%MC%' ;
 
  That way I could copy/paste sql commands as easily as I could
  when my prompt was just SQL .
 
  Setting sqlnumber off gets me:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] from dba_users
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] where username like '%MC%' ;
 
  Which isn't horrible, although I do miss the numbers.  But no
  matter--I'll just live with it...
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RE: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-23 Thread Hand, Michael T
Roy,

You got me thinking on a tangent.  How can I cut and paste the whole
multi-line SQL
statement at once and have it useable.  Now you can, of course, use sqlplus
in silent 
mode (-s), but that's a little too silent for my tastes.  So how 'bout set
sqlnumber off 
 sqlprompt '  '.  That way you get:

  select blah, deblah from blahde
  where blah != deblah and ...

Nicely cutable  pasteable, just thought I'd share.

Mike Hand

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Apologies--I wasn't clear in my original post.  Right now I'm getting:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
  2  from dba_users
  3  where username like '%MC%' ;

What I'd *really* like to have is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
   2  from dba_users
   3  where username like '%MC%' ;

That way I could copy/paste sql commands as easily as I could when my prompt
was just SQL .

Setting sqlnumber off gets me:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
[EMAIL PROTECTED] from dba_users
[EMAIL PROTECTED] where username like '%MC%' ;

Which isn't horrible, although I do miss the numbers.  But no matter--I'll
just live with it...

Many thanks!

-Roy

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst/DBA
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RE: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-23 Thread Gogala, Mladen
set sqlprompt ^G
Will make it less quiet.

Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA
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Roy,

You got me thinking on a tangent.  How can I cut and paste the whole
multi-line SQL
statement at once and have it useable.  Now you can, of course, use sqlplus
in silent 
mode (-s), but that's a little too silent for my tastes.  So how 'bout set
sqlnumber off 
 sqlprompt '  '.  That way you get:

  select blah, deblah from blahde
  where blah != deblah and ...

Nicely cutable  pasteable, just thought I'd share.

Mike Hand

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Apologies--I wasn't clear in my original post.  Right now I'm getting:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
  2  from dba_users
  3  where username like '%MC%' ;

What I'd *really* like to have is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
   2  from dba_users
   3  where username like '%MC%' ;

That way I could copy/paste sql commands as easily as I could when my prompt
was just SQL .

Setting sqlnumber off gets me:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
[EMAIL PROTECTED] from dba_users
[EMAIL PROTECTED] where username like '%MC%' ;

Which isn't horrible, although I do miss the numbers.  But no matter--I'll
just live with it...

Many thanks!

-Roy

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possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-22 Thread Pardee, Roy E
Greetings all,

I've set up my login.sql so that my prompt shows my username  the sid of the db to 
which I'm connected.  This works well, but has made it tough to drag-select text b/c 
now the first line sticks way out relative to the continuation lines, like so:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
  2  from dba_users
  3  where username like '%MC%' ;

Is it possible to specify the prompt that shows on continuation lines (or otherwise 
pad it out) in sql*plus?

Thanks!

-Roy

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RE: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-22 Thread Goulet, Dick
The command is set sqlprompt. 

Dick Goulet
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Greetings all,

I've set up my login.sql so that my prompt shows my username  the sid of the db to 
which I'm connected.  This works well, but has made it tough to drag-select text b/c 
now the first line sticks way out relative to the continuation lines, like so:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
  2  from dba_users
  3  where username like '%MC%' ;

Is it possible to specify the prompt that shows on continuation lines (or otherwise 
pad it out) in sql*plus?

Thanks!

-Roy

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Re: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-22 Thread Arup Nanda
Sure, just set the following (assuming 9i)

SET SQLNUMBER OFF

HTH.

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 Greetings all,

 I've set up my login.sql so that my prompt shows my username  the sid of
the db to which I'm connected.  This works well, but has made it tough to
drag-select text b/c now the first line sticks way out relative to the
continuation lines, like so:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
   2  from dba_users
   3  where username like '%MC%' ;

 Is it possible to specify the prompt that shows on continuation lines (or
otherwise pad it out) in sql*plus?

 Thanks!

 -Roy

 Roy Pardee
 Programmer/Analyst/DBA
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RE: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-22 Thread Stephen Lee

I got the impression that the question is if sql plus has the equivalent of
the Unix PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 prompts. 

 -Original Message-
 
 The command is set sqlprompt. 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 Greetings all,
 
 I've set up my login.sql so that my prompt shows my username 
  the sid of the db to which I'm connected.  This works well, 
 but has made it tough to drag-select text b/c now the first 
 line sticks way out relative to the continuation lines, like so:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
   2  from dba_users
   3  where username like '%MC%' ;
 
 Is it possible to specify the prompt that shows on 
 continuation lines (or otherwise pad it out) in sql*plus?
 
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RE: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-22 Thread Richard Ji
I think so too.  I think sqlcontinue and sqlnumber is
what this guy is looking for.

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I got the impression that the question is if sql plus has the equivalent of
the Unix PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 prompts. 

 -Original Message-
 
 The command is set sqlprompt. 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 Greetings all,
 
 I've set up my login.sql so that my prompt shows my username 
  the sid of the db to which I'm connected.  This works well, 
 but has made it tough to drag-select text b/c now the first 
 line sticks way out relative to the continuation lines, like so:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
   2  from dba_users
   3  where username like '%MC%' ;
 
 Is it possible to specify the prompt that shows on 
 continuation lines (or otherwise pad it out) in sql*plus?
 
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RE: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-22 Thread Pardee, Roy E
That's right--I am looking for an analogue to PSx.  I've been playing around 
w/sqlcontinue  sqlnumber but so far no joy.  I'm using sql*plus 8.0.6.0.0 (running 
against an 8.1.6 db).

Many thanks to all who responded.

Cheers,

-Roy

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I think so too.  I think sqlcontinue and sqlnumber is
what this guy is looking for.

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I got the impression that the question is if sql plus has the equivalent of
the Unix PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 prompts. 

 -Original Message-
 
 The command is set sqlprompt. 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 Greetings all,
 
 I've set up my login.sql so that my prompt shows my username 
  the sid of the db to which I'm connected.  This works well, 
 but has made it tough to drag-select text b/c now the first 
 line sticks way out relative to the continuation lines, like so:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
   2  from dba_users
   3  where username like '%MC%' ;
 
 Is it possible to specify the prompt that shows on 
 continuation lines (or otherwise pad it out) in sql*plus?
 
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Re: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-22 Thread Arup Nanda
I suggested using SET SQLNUMBER OFF. This sure works in SQL*Plus 8i and
above; not sure if it does in 8.0.6 and I don't have a test executable to
test it. But have you tried it?

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 That's right--I am looking for an analogue to PSx.  I've been playing
around w/sqlcontinue  sqlnumber but so far no joy.  I'm using sql*plus
8.0.6.0.0 (running against an 8.1.6 db).

 Many thanks to all who responded.

 Cheers,

 -Roy

 Roy Pardee
 Programmer/Analyst/DBA
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 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:15 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 I think so too.  I think sqlcontinue and sqlnumber is
 what this guy is looking for.

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 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 1:50 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



 I got the impression that the question is if sql plus has the equivalent
of
 the Unix PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 prompts.

  -Original Message-
 
  The command is set sqlprompt.
 
 
  -Original Message-
 
  Greetings all,
 
  I've set up my login.sql so that my prompt shows my username
   the sid of the db to which I'm connected.  This works well,
  but has made it tough to drag-select text b/c now the first
  line sticks way out relative to the continuation lines, like so:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
2  from dba_users
3  where username like '%MC%' ;
 
  Is it possible to specify the prompt that shows on
  continuation lines (or otherwise pad it out) in sql*plus?
 
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RE: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-22 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
sqlcontinue changes the prompt for the continuation of a SQL*Plus command, not a SQL 
command.
sqlnumber off will mean that instead of having number prompts on the continuation of a 
SQL statement the SQL prompt will be continued (which I personally find annoying).

set sqlnumber off should eliminate the problem of the indented first line, but you 
won't get a continuation prompt at all.

Example (using SQL*Plus 8.1.7):
SQL -- continuation of a SQL*Plus command.
SQL prompt -
 Hello World
Hello World
SQL set sqlcontinue Next 
SQL prompt -
Next Hello World
Hello World
SQL -- +++
SQL -- continuation of a SQL command
SQL select *
  2  from dual where 1 = 2 ;
aucune ligne sélectionnée
SQL set sqlnumber off
SQL select *
SQL from dual where 1 = 2 ;
aucune ligne sélectionnée


 -Original Message-
 From: Arup Nanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: mardi, 22. juillet 2003 12:44
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?
 
 
 I suggested using SET SQLNUMBER OFF. This sure works in 
 SQL*Plus 8i and
 above; not sure if it does in 8.0.6 and I don't have a test 
 executable to
 test it. But have you tried it?
 
 Arup Nanda
 - Original Message -
 
  That's right--I am looking for an analogue to PSx.  I've 
 been playing
 around w/sqlcontinue  sqlnumber but so far no joy.  I'm 
 using sql*plus
 8.0.6.0.0 (running against an 8.1.6 db).
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RE: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-22 Thread Goulet, Dick
If that's the impression, then no, there's only one, sqlprompt.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
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I got the impression that the question is if sql plus has the equivalent of
the Unix PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 prompts. 

 -Original Message-
 
 The command is set sqlprompt. 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 Greetings all,
 
 I've set up my login.sql so that my prompt shows my username 
  the sid of the db to which I'm connected.  This works well, 
 but has made it tough to drag-select text b/c now the first 
 line sticks way out relative to the continuation lines, like so:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
   2  from dba_users
   3  where username like '%MC%' ;
 
 Is it possible to specify the prompt that shows on 
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Re: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-22 Thread Arup Nanda
Setting SQLNUMBER OFF will make the SQLPROMPT continuation prompt, not
completely eliminate it.

Isn't it what the OP wanted in the first place?
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 sqlcontinue changes the prompt for the continuation of a SQL*Plus command,
not a SQL command.
 sqlnumber off will mean that instead of having number prompts on the
continuation of a SQL statement the SQL prompt will be continued (which I
personally find annoying).

 set sqlnumber off should eliminate the problem of the indented first
line, but you won't get a continuation prompt at all.

 Example (using SQL*Plus 8.1.7):
 SQL -- continuation of a SQL*Plus command.
 SQL prompt -
  Hello World
 Hello World
 SQL set sqlcontinue Next 
 SQL prompt -
 Next Hello World
 Hello World
 SQL -- +++
 SQL -- continuation of a SQL command
 SQL select *
   2  from dual where 1 = 2 ;
 aucune ligne sélectionnée
 SQL set sqlnumber off
 SQL select *
 SQL from dual where 1 = 2 ;
 aucune ligne sélectionnée


  -Original Message-
  From: Arup Nanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: mardi, 22. juillet 2003 12:44
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: Re: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?
 
 
  I suggested using SET SQLNUMBER OFF. This sure works in
  SQL*Plus 8i and
  above; not sure if it does in 8.0.6 and I don't have a test
  executable to
  test it. But have you tried it?
 
  Arup Nanda
  - Original Message -
 
   That's right--I am looking for an analogue to PSx.  I've
  been playing
  around w/sqlcontinue  sqlnumber but so far no joy.  I'm
  using sql*plus
  8.0.6.0.0 (running against an 8.1.6 db).
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RE: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-22 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Yes, what I meant is that the continuation prompt will be identical to the first line 
prompt - meaning that there is no SEPARATE continuation prompt.

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 From: Arup Nanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: mardi, 22. juillet 2003 14:25
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?
 
 
 Setting SQLNUMBER OFF will make the SQLPROMPT continuation prompt, not
 completely eliminate it.
 
 Isn't it what the OP wanted in the first place?
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 3:59 PM
 
 
  sqlcontinue changes the prompt for the continuation of a 
 SQL*Plus command,
 not a SQL command.
  sqlnumber off will mean that instead of having number prompts on the
 continuation of a SQL statement the SQL prompt will be 
 continued (which I
 personally find annoying).
 
  set sqlnumber off should eliminate the problem of the 
 indented first
 line, but you won't get a continuation prompt at all.
 
  Example (using SQL*Plus 8.1.7):
  SQL -- continuation of a SQL*Plus command.
  SQL prompt -
   Hello World
  Hello World
  SQL set sqlcontinue Next 
  SQL prompt -
  Next Hello World
  Hello World
  SQL -- +++
  SQL -- continuation of a SQL command
  SQL select *
2  from dual where 1 = 2 ;
  aucune ligne sélectionnée
  SQL set sqlnumber off
  SQL select *
  SQL from dual where 1 = 2 ;
  aucune ligne sélectionnée
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Arup Nanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: mardi, 22. juillet 2003 12:44
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   Subject: Re: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?
  
  
   I suggested using SET SQLNUMBER OFF. This sure works in
   SQL*Plus 8i and
   above; not sure if it does in 8.0.6 and I don't have a test
   executable to
   test it. But have you tried it?
  
   Arup Nanda
   - Original Message -
  
That's right--I am looking for an analogue to PSx.  I've
   been playing
   around w/sqlcontinue  sqlnumber but so far no joy.  I'm
   using sql*plus
   8.0.6.0.0 (running against an 8.1.6 db).
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RE: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-22 Thread Pardee, Roy E
Apologies--I wasn't clear in my original post.  Right now I'm getting:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
  2  from dba_users
  3  where username like '%MC%' ;

What I'd *really* like to have is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
   2  from dba_users
   3  where username like '%MC%' ;

That way I could copy/paste sql commands as easily as I could when my prompt was just 
SQL .

Setting sqlnumber off gets me:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
[EMAIL PROTECTED] from dba_users
[EMAIL PROTECTED] where username like '%MC%' ;

Which isn't horrible, although I do miss the numbers.  But no matter--I'll just live 
with it...

Many thanks!

-Roy

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst/DBA
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
Extension 8487

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Setting SQLNUMBER OFF will make the SQLPROMPT continuation prompt, not
completely eliminate it.

Isn't it what the OP wanted in the first place?
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 sqlcontinue changes the prompt for the continuation of a SQL*Plus command,
not a SQL command.
 sqlnumber off will mean that instead of having number prompts on the
continuation of a SQL statement the SQL prompt will be continued (which I
personally find annoying).

 set sqlnumber off should eliminate the problem of the indented first
line, but you won't get a continuation prompt at all.

 Example (using SQL*Plus 8.1.7):
 SQL -- continuation of a SQL*Plus command.
 SQL prompt -
  Hello World
 Hello World
 SQL set sqlcontinue Next 
 SQL prompt -
 Next Hello World
 Hello World
 SQL -- +++
 SQL -- continuation of a SQL command
 SQL select *
   2  from dual where 1 = 2 ;
 aucune ligne sélectionnée
 SQL set sqlnumber off
 SQL select *
 SQL from dual where 1 = 2 ;
 aucune ligne sélectionnée


  -Original Message-
  From: Arup Nanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: mardi, 22. juillet 2003 12:44
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: Re: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?
 
 
  I suggested using SET SQLNUMBER OFF. This sure works in
  SQL*Plus 8i and
  above; not sure if it does in 8.0.6 and I don't have a test
  executable to
  test it. But have you tried it?
 
  Arup Nanda
  - Original Message -
 
   That's right--I am looking for an analogue to PSx.  I've
  been playing
  around w/sqlcontinue  sqlnumber but so far no joy.  I'm
  using sql*plus
  8.0.6.0.0 (running against an 8.1.6 db).
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RE: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-22 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
You can always set your prompt to take up two lines, but that looks ugly to me too.
See example.
SQL show user
USER est SYSTEM
SQL show sqlprompt
sqlprompt SQL 
SQL -- change prompt to be connected username and last 4
SQL --  characters of instance name
SQL column new_prompt new_value new_sqlprompt
SQL select
  2 user || '@' || chr (10) ||
  3   substr (instance_name, length (instance_name) - 3) || ''
  4   as new_prompt
  5   from v$instance ;

NEW_PROMPT
-
SYSTEM@
jrk1


SQL set sqlprompt new_sqlprompt
SYSTEM@
jrk1select *
  2  from dual ;

D
-
X

SYSTEM@
jrk1

 -Original Message-
 From: Pardee, Roy E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Apologies--I wasn't clear in my original post.  Right now I'm getting:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
   2  from dba_users
   3  where username like '%MC%' ;
 
 What I'd *really* like to have is:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
2  from dba_users
3  where username like '%MC%' ;
 
 That way I could copy/paste sql commands as easily as I could 
 when my prompt was just SQL .
 
 Setting sqlnumber off gets me:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] select username
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] from dba_users
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] where username like '%MC%' ;
 
 Which isn't horrible, although I do miss the numbers.  But no 
 matter--I'll just live with it...
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RE: Is range partitioning possible on part of varchar2 column ???

2003-03-14 Thread Janardhana Babu Donga
This seems to be a good idea. I will see if this is acceptable to my people.
Earliar I suggested to change to date field, and was not acceptable for them
as there seems plenty of code needs to be changed. I will see if this change
is acceptable for them. 

One thing I could understand clearly from the LIST MEMBERS is that it is not
at all possible to range partition without changing the column
type/contents. I have two options now, one with what you suggested. 

Thanks for your help and thanks for all those who replied.

-- Babu

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Babu,

On a slightly different approach, is it possible to update the column to the
format MON, from the present MON? If so, then there is hope. You
could create the partitions like this

PARTITIONING BY RANGE (REPORT_CYCLE_CD)
(
PARTITION P1998 VALUES LESS THAN ('1999%'),
PARTITION P1999 VALUES LESS THAN ('2000%'),
PARTITION P2000 VALUES LESS THAN ('2001%'),
.
PARTITION PMAX VALUES LESS THAN (maxvalue)
)

Hope this helps.

Arup Nanda

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 Babu
 I don't think partitions are clearly documented anywhere. Here is some SQL
 that works so you can see how to use a date function. It partitions on two
 columns, but I wanted you to see something that works.

add partition sum_fy_28
 values less than ('FY', to_date('02012003','mmdd'))
 tablespace data_fy_28

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 Dear List,

 I have a table of size approx 10gig, and I need to partition based on the
 YEAR. I have column in the table, REPORT_CYCLE_CD  with VARCHAR2(7). The
 data in the column of format MON . I need to partition the table
based
 on the year , that is, substr(report_cycle_cd, 4,4).

 Substr function doesn't seem to be permitted in the partitioning syntax
and
 so am getting errors. Only TO_DATE function seems to be permitted. Since
it
 is not a date column, I would like to know if there is a way to  RANGE
 partition the table, instead of HASH partitioning.

 Appreciate any suggestions.

 Thanks,
 -- Babu
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Is range partitioning possible on part of varchar2 column ??????

2003-03-13 Thread Janardhana Babu Donga
Dear List,

I have a table of size approx 10gig, and I need to partition based on the
YEAR. I have column in the table, REPORT_CYCLE_CD  with VARCHAR2(7). The
data in the column of format MON . I need to partition the table based
on the year , that is, substr(report_cycle_cd, 4,4).  

Substr function doesn't seem to be permitted in the partitioning syntax and
so am getting errors. Only TO_DATE function seems to be permitted. Since it
is not a date column, I would like to know if there is a way to  RANGE
partition the table, instead of HASH partitioning.

Appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,
-- Babu 
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RE: Is range partitioning possible on part of varchar2 column ???

2003-03-13 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Babu
I don't think partitions are clearly documented anywhere. Here is some SQL
that works so you can see how to use a date function. It partitions on two
columns, but I wanted you to see something that works.

   add partition sum_fy_28
values less than ('FY', to_date('02012003','mmdd'))
tablespace data_fy_28   

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Dear List,

I have a table of size approx 10gig, and I need to partition based on the
YEAR. I have column in the table, REPORT_CYCLE_CD  with VARCHAR2(7). The
data in the column of format MON . I need to partition the table based
on the year , that is, substr(report_cycle_cd, 4,4).  

Substr function doesn't seem to be permitted in the partitioning syntax and
so am getting errors. Only TO_DATE function seems to be permitted. Since it
is not a date column, I would like to know if there is a way to  RANGE
partition the table, instead of HASH partitioning.

Appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,
-- Babu 
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Re: Is range partitioning possible on part of varchar2 column ??????

2003-03-13 Thread Igor Neyman
No, I think you will have to add a column to store '' separately in
order to partition on it.

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 Dear List,

 I have a table of size approx 10gig, and I need to partition based on the
 YEAR. I have column in the table, REPORT_CYCLE_CD  with VARCHAR2(7). The
 data in the column of format MON . I need to partition the table
based
 on the year , that is, substr(report_cycle_cd, 4,4).

 Substr function doesn't seem to be permitted in the partitioning syntax
and
 so am getting errors. Only TO_DATE function seems to be permitted. Since
it
 is not a date column, I would like to know if there is a way to  RANGE
 partition the table, instead of HASH partitioning.

 Appreciate any suggestions.

 Thanks,
 -- Babu
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RE: Is range partitioning possible on part of varchar2 column ???

2003-03-13 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Easy to do if it was 'MON'

Oracle 9i has list partitioning that may work for you.

Regards,

Waleed

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Dear List,

I have a table of size approx 10gig, and I need to partition based on the
YEAR. I have column in the table, REPORT_CYCLE_CD  with VARCHAR2(7). The
data in the column of format MON . I need to partition the table based
on the year , that is, substr(report_cycle_cd, 4,4).  

Substr function doesn't seem to be permitted in the partitioning syntax and
so am getting errors. Only TO_DATE function seems to be permitted. Since it
is not a date column, I would like to know if there is a way to  RANGE
partition the table, instead of HASH partitioning.

Appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,
-- Babu 
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RE: Is range partitioning possible on part of varchar2 column ???

2003-03-13 Thread Janardhana Babu Donga
Is list partitioning available in 8i? Iam on 8.1.7.4.

-- Babu

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Easy to do if it was 'MON'

Oracle 9i has list partitioning that may work for you.

Regards,

Waleed

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Dear List,

I have a table of size approx 10gig, and I need to partition based on the
YEAR. I have column in the table, REPORT_CYCLE_CD  with VARCHAR2(7). The
data in the column of format MON . I need to partition the table based
on the year , that is, substr(report_cycle_cd, 4,4).  

Substr function doesn't seem to be permitted in the partitioning syntax and
so am getting errors. Only TO_DATE function seems to be permitted. Since it
is not a date column, I would like to know if there is a way to  RANGE
partition the table, instead of HASH partitioning.

Appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,
-- Babu 
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RE: Is range partitioning possible on part of varchar2 column ???

2003-03-13 Thread Khedr, Waleed
No

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Is list partitioning available in 8i? Iam on 8.1.7.4.

-- Babu

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???


Easy to do if it was 'MON'

Oracle 9i has list partitioning that may work for you.

Regards,

Waleed

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Dear List,

I have a table of size approx 10gig, and I need to partition based on the
YEAR. I have column in the table, REPORT_CYCLE_CD  with VARCHAR2(7). The
data in the column of format MON . I need to partition the table based
on the year , that is, substr(report_cycle_cd, 4,4).  

Substr function doesn't seem to be permitted in the partitioning syntax and
so am getting errors. Only TO_DATE function seems to be permitted. Since it
is not a date column, I would like to know if there is a way to  RANGE
partition the table, instead of HASH partitioning.

Appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,
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Re: Is range partitioning possible on part of varchar2 column ???

2003-03-13 Thread Arup Nanda
Babu,

On a slightly different approach, is it possible to update the column to the
format MON, from the present MON? If so, then there is hope. You
could create the partitions like this

PARTITIONING BY RANGE (REPORT_CYCLE_CD)
(
PARTITION P1998 VALUES LESS THAN ('1999%'),
PARTITION P1999 VALUES LESS THAN ('2000%'),
PARTITION P2000 VALUES LESS THAN ('2001%'),
.
PARTITION PMAX VALUES LESS THAN (maxvalue)
)

Hope this helps.

Arup Nanda

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 Babu
 I don't think partitions are clearly documented anywhere. Here is some SQL
 that works so you can see how to use a date function. It partitions on two
 columns, but I wanted you to see something that works.

add partition sum_fy_28
 values less than ('FY', to_date('02012003','mmdd'))
 tablespace data_fy_28

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 Dear List,

 I have a table of size approx 10gig, and I need to partition based on the
 YEAR. I have column in the table, REPORT_CYCLE_CD  with VARCHAR2(7). The
 data in the column of format MON . I need to partition the table
based
 on the year , that is, substr(report_cycle_cd, 4,4).

 Substr function doesn't seem to be permitted in the partitioning syntax
and
 so am getting errors. Only TO_DATE function seems to be permitted. Since
it
 is not a date column, I would like to know if there is a way to  RANGE
 partition the table, instead of HASH partitioning.

 Appreciate any suggestions.

 Thanks,
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RE: Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible performance issues

2003-01-31 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible performance issues



Anjo,

Actually I saw this in your (et al) famous YAPP 
paper.

Still 
curious,
Steve
 


  -Original Message-From: Orr, Steve Sent: 
  Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:32 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible 
  performance issues
  I read somewhere that for apps that constantly logon/logoff 
  (like web apps), one possible thing to do is increase the cache size for the 
  AUDSES$ sequence. Anyone done this and seen improvements? 
  Curiously, Steve Orr 
  -Original Message- From: Anjo 
  Kolk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible performance 
  issues 
  You are kind of on the right track. The number of sessions 
  doesn't really matter. What matters is that they 
  logon/logoff all the time. That is the worst thing 
  that you can do in an Oracle database. Why? The session will allocate the cursors, parse them, close them everytime the session will 
  logon/logoff. The symptoms that you will see. Latch 
  contention (shared pool, library cache), shared pool 
  fragmentation etc. 
  Anjo. 
  On Thursday 30 January 2003 05:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:  I'm far more of a developer than a DBA, 
  but when someone told me this it  set off a big 
  red light in my head.   We are using an Oracle Backend with a .net front front. One of our 
  .net  guys told me that the middle tier they are 
  using 'spawns' sessions.   We have 2 pretty distinct skillsets here so fixing the middle tier 
  is  probably way beyond my pervue. However, they 
  told me that in a recent demo,  the performance 
  degraded overtime. Its my understanding that generally this  is caused by one of two things.   1. Failure to use Bind Variables... 
  we are using them everywhere.   2. Too many sessions.  
   Am I on the right track here? How much would shared 
  server mode help? This  may be an enormous issue 
  since they are expecting 250 contiguous users.  
  Another option I tossed around was moving as much logic from the client 
   side to the database to avoid the session spawning. I 
  know that generally  this is a good idea, but its 
  difficult when the database people are lousy  in 
  C# and the .net people our lousy in PL/SQL and SQL.   Any opinions? 
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RE: Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible performance issues

2003-01-30 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
R - I haven't yet been the victim of .net (thankfully), and I hope someone
with direct experience will reply. But just in case, I'll mention a couple
of ideas. 
   Try to sample the SQL that is being inflicted on Oracle. Microsoft
interfaces tend to have default settings for the lowest common denominator
(like accessing a flat file). I've seen them do stuff like pull the entire
table over just to verify that it hasn't changed. This sort of thing can
usually be corrected by using other than default settings.

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I'm far more of a developer than a DBA, but when someone told me this it set
off a big red light in my head. 

We are using an Oracle Backend with a .net front front. One of our .net guys
told me that the middle tier they are using 'spawns' sessions. 

We have 2 pretty distinct skillsets here so fixing the middle tier is
probably way beyond my pervue. However, they told me that in a recent demo,
the performance degraded overtime. Its my understanding that generally this
is caused by one of two things.

1. Failure to use Bind Variables... we are using them everywhere. 

2. Too many sessions. 

Am I on the right track here? How much would shared server mode help? This
may be an enormous issue since they are expecting 250 contiguous users.
Another option I tossed around was moving as much logic from the client side
to the database to avoid the session spawning. I know that generally this is
a good idea, but its difficult when the database people are lousy in C# and
the .net people our lousy in PL/SQL and SQL. 

Any opinions? 

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Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible performance issues

2003-01-30 Thread rgaffuri
I'm far more of a developer than a DBA, but when someone told me this it set off a big 
red light in my head. 

We are using an Oracle Backend with a .net front front. One of our .net guys told me 
that the middle tier they are using 'spawns' sessions. 

We have 2 pretty distinct skillsets here so fixing the middle tier is probably way 
beyond my pervue. However, they told me that in a recent demo, the performance 
degraded overtime. Its my understanding that generally this is caused by one of two 
things.

1. Failure to use Bind Variables... we are using them everywhere. 

2. Too many sessions. 

Am I on the right track here? How much would shared server mode help? This may be an 
enormous issue since they are expecting 250 contiguous users. Another option I tossed 
around was moving as much logic from the client side to the database to avoid the 
session spawning. I know that generally this is a good idea, but its difficult when 
the database people are lousy in C# and the .net people our lousy in PL/SQL and SQL. 

Any opinions? 

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RE: Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible performance issues

2003-01-30 Thread Adrian Roe
250 connections from the middle tier does sound a bit suspect, way over the
top. I'm assuming 'spawns' relates to establishing connections as and when
required and then disconnecting when done. I think you will find that there
is quite an Oracle overhead in handling all of the connect/disconnect
requests that Oracle is coping with in a non connection pooled environment.

Ideally, you shouldn't be spawning connection from the middle tier. You
should look at connection pooling ie. configure a fixed pool of connections
per middle tier server, 20/40/whatever (and have more than one middle tier
server, load balanced) and have these connect when the app/web server starts
up. You then round robin the connections to the clients when required, and
throw them back in the pool when finished. 

Ade

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R - I haven't yet been the victim of .net (thankfully), and I hope someone
with direct experience will reply. But just in case, I'll mention a couple
of ideas. 
   Try to sample the SQL that is being inflicted on Oracle. Microsoft
interfaces tend to have default settings for the lowest common denominator
(like accessing a flat file). I've seen them do stuff like pull the entire
table over just to verify that it hasn't changed. This sort of thing can
usually be corrected by using other than default settings.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:15 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I'm far more of a developer than a DBA, but when someone told me this it set
off a big red light in my head. 

We are using an Oracle Backend with a .net front front. One of our .net guys
told me that the middle tier they are using 'spawns' sessions. 

We have 2 pretty distinct skillsets here so fixing the middle tier is
probably way beyond my pervue. However, they told me that in a recent demo,
the performance degraded overtime. Its my understanding that generally this
is caused by one of two things.

1. Failure to use Bind Variables... we are using them everywhere. 

2. Too many sessions. 

Am I on the right track here? How much would shared server mode help? This
may be an enormous issue since they are expecting 250 contiguous users.
Another option I tossed around was moving as much logic from the client side
to the database to avoid the session spawning. I know that generally this is
a good idea, but its difficult when the database people are lousy in C# and
the .net people our lousy in PL/SQL and SQL. 

Any opinions? 

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Re: Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible performance issues

2003-01-30 Thread Anjo Kolk
You are kind of on the right track. The number of sessions doesn't really 
matter. What matters is that they logon/logoff all the time. That is the 
worst thing that you can do in an Oracle database. Why? The session will 
allocate the cursors, parse them, close them everytime the session will 
logon/logoff. The symptoms that you will see. Latch contention (shared pool, 
library cache), shared pool fragmentation etc.

Anjo.


On Thursday 30 January 2003 05:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm far more of a developer than a DBA, but when someone told me this it
 set off a big red light in my head.

 We are using an Oracle Backend with a .net front front. One of our .net
 guys told me that the middle tier they are using 'spawns' sessions.

 We have 2 pretty distinct skillsets here so fixing the middle tier is
 probably way beyond my pervue. However, they told me that in a recent demo,
 the performance degraded overtime. Its my understanding that generally this
 is caused by one of two things.

 1. Failure to use Bind Variables... we are using them everywhere.

 2. Too many sessions.

 Am I on the right track here? How much would shared server mode help? This
 may be an enormous issue since they are expecting 250 contiguous users.
 Another option I tossed around was moving as much logic from the client
 side to the database to avoid the session spawning. I know that generally
 this is a good idea, but its difficult when the database people are lousy
 in C# and the .net people our lousy in PL/SQL and SQL.

 Any opinions?

-- 

Anjo Kolk
http://www.oraperf.com

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RE: Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible performance issues

2003-01-30 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible performance issues





I read somewhere that for apps that constantly logon/logoff (like web apps), one possible thing to do is increase the cache size for the AUDSES$ sequence. Anyone done this and seen improvements? 


Curiously,
Steve Orr



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From: Anjo Kolk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:15 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible performance issues



You are kind of on the right track. The number of sessions doesn't really 
matter. What matters is that they logon/logoff all the time. That is the 
worst thing that you can do in an Oracle database. Why? The session will 
allocate the cursors, parse them, close them everytime the session will 
logon/logoff. The symptoms that you will see. Latch contention (shared pool, 
library cache), shared pool fragmentation etc.


Anjo.



On Thursday 30 January 2003 05:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm far more of a developer than a DBA, but when someone told me this it
 set off a big red light in my head.

 We are using an Oracle Backend with a .net front front. One of our .net
 guys told me that the middle tier they are using 'spawns' sessions.

 We have 2 pretty distinct skillsets here so fixing the middle tier is
 probably way beyond my pervue. However, they told me that in a recent demo,
 the performance degraded overtime. Its my understanding that generally this
 is caused by one of two things.

 1. Failure to use Bind Variables... we are using them everywhere.

 2. Too many sessions.

 Am I on the right track here? How much would shared server mode help? This
 may be an enormous issue since they are expecting 250 contiguous users.
 Another option I tossed around was moving as much logic from the client
 side to the database to avoid the session spawning. I know that generally
 this is a good idea, but its difficult when the database people are lousy
 in C# and the .net people our lousy in PL/SQL and SQL.

 Any opinions?


-- 

Anjo Kolk
http://www.oraperf.com


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RE: Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible performance issues

2003-01-30 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible performance issues



Any 
takers on this ??

  -Original Message-From: Orr, Steve Sent: 
  Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:32 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible 
  performance issues
  I read somewhere that for apps that constantly logon/logoff 
  (like web apps), one possible thing to do is increase the cache size for the 
  AUDSES$ sequence.Anyone done this 
  and seen improvements? 
  Curiously, Steve Orr 
  -Original Message- From: Anjo 
  Kolk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Middle Tier spawning sessions, possible performance 
  issues 
  You are kind of on the right track. The number of sessions 
  doesn't really matter. What matters is that they 
  logon/logoff all the time. That is the worst thing 
  that you can do in an Oracle database. Why? The session will allocate the cursors, parse them, close them everytime the session will 
  logon/logoff. The symptoms that you will see. Latch 
  contention (shared pool, library cache), shared pool 
  fragmentation etc. 
  Anjo. 
  On Thursday 30 January 2003 05:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:  I'm far more of a developer than a DBA, 
  but when someone told me this it  set off a big 
  red light in my head.   We are using an Oracle Backend with a .net front front. One of our 
  .net  guys told me that the middle tier they are 
  using 'spawns' sessions.   We have 2 pretty distinct skillsets here so fixing the middle tier 
  is  probably way beyond my pervue. However, they 
  told me that in a recent demo,  the performance 
  degraded overtime. Its my understanding that generally this  is caused by one of two things.   1. Failure to use Bind Variables... 
  we are using them everywhere.   2. Too many sessions.  
   Am I on the right track here? How much would shared 
  server mode help? This  may be an enormous issue 
  since they are expecting 250 contiguous users.  
  Another option I tossed around was moving as much logic from the client 
   side to the database to avoid the session spawning. I 
  know that generally  this is a good idea, but its 
  difficult when the database people are lousy  in 
  C# and the .net people our lousy in PL/SQL and SQL.   Any opinions? 
  --  
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Re: Follow-up: It's NOT possible to set role in db's logon

2003-01-29 Thread Louis BROUILLETTE
Hi Roy,

I don't know if you solved your problem yet but I have a similar situation 
here.  I have an Oracle account used by PHP programs (third party programs) 
to access some tables.  I don't want anyone to log in to the database with 
this account unless the connection comes from apache and from our web 
server machine.  So what I did is that I created a logon trigger on that 
schema and if the conditions are not met, then I raise an application error 
and the connection dies.

As you know, these informations (program, machine, etc...) can be found in 
v$session and the SID of the current session can be found with select sid 
from v$mystat where rownum = 1.

HTH.

Louis

At 15:13 2003-01-27 -0800, you wrote:
In case anyone cares--it looks like it is *not* possible to set a role in an
after logon trigger.  Had I only looked at metalink:

AFTER LOGON Triggers Don't Allow DBMS_SESSION.SET_ROLE to Keep Roles Enabled
http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_datab
ase_id=NOTp_id=106140.1

Bummer, that.

Thanks again to all who responded.

Cheers,

-Roy

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
Extension 8487

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 7:42 AM
To: 'ORACLE-L'


Greetings all,

I'm trying to support a COTS application that is back-end agnostic  makes
only minimal use of security on the db.  In particular, it requires that
users be granted a default role that has *very* heavy permissions--enough to
do some major mischief should they ever figure out how to use odbc or
sql*plus.

My collegues  I have devised a kludgy method for getting around this
problem, involving a shill startup program that turns the default-ness of
the role on  off in conjunction with users opening  closing the client
program.  This works, but is a pain to maintain.

I've recently discovered the v$session.program field  am now wondering
whether it would be possible to use the new-fangled logon system trigger to
set the role only for cases where v$session.program = the COTS client.

Can anybody comment as to whether this is a viable approach on an 8.1.6
database  if not, on a 9i db?

In particular, there are two things I don't know--first, how to select just
the one row in v$session that corresponds to the current connection.  If a
user was to start up the COTS client  then connect to the same db via
sql*plus, I would want the role set *only* for the COTS client session.  My
best thought so far here is to use the most recently started connection
based on v$session.logon_time.

Second, whether the SET ROLE statement is legal in a logon trigger.

All help will be most welcome.

Thanks!

-Roy

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
Extension 8487
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RE: Follow-up: It's NOT possible to set role in db's logon

2003-01-29 Thread Pardee, Roy E
That's a great idea--many thanks.  I bet I could put up a table of permitted
username/client program combinations  just do a SELECT from it  translate
the no_data_found exception into a 'connect via your program verboten!'
message...

Thanks again,

-Roy

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Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:04 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi Roy,

I don't know if you solved your problem yet but I have a similar situation 
here.  I have an Oracle account used by PHP programs (third party programs) 
to access some tables.  I don't want anyone to log in to the database with 
this account unless the connection comes from apache and from our web 
server machine.  So what I did is that I created a logon trigger on that 
schema and if the conditions are not met, then I raise an application error 
and the connection dies.

As you know, these informations (program, machine, etc...) can be found in 
v$session and the SID of the current session can be found with select sid 
from v$mystat where rownum = 1.

HTH.

Louis

At 15:13 2003-01-27 -0800, you wrote:
In case anyone cares--it looks like it is *not* possible to set a role in
an
after logon trigger.  Had I only looked at metalink:

AFTER LOGON Triggers Don't Allow DBMS_SESSION.SET_ROLE to Keep Roles
Enabled
http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_data
b
ase_id=NOTp_id=106140.1

Bummer, that.

Thanks again to all who responded.

Cheers,

-Roy

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
Extension 8487

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 7:42 AM
To: 'ORACLE-L'


Greetings all,

I'm trying to support a COTS application that is back-end agnostic  makes
only minimal use of security on the db.  In particular, it requires that
users be granted a default role that has *very* heavy permissions--enough
to
do some major mischief should they ever figure out how to use odbc or
sql*plus.

My collegues  I have devised a kludgy method for getting around this
problem, involving a shill startup program that turns the default-ness of
the role on  off in conjunction with users opening  closing the client
program.  This works, but is a pain to maintain.

I've recently discovered the v$session.program field  am now wondering
whether it would be possible to use the new-fangled logon system trigger to
set the role only for cases where v$session.program = the COTS client.

Can anybody comment as to whether this is a viable approach on an 8.1.6
database  if not, on a 9i db?

In particular, there are two things I don't know--first, how to select just
the one row in v$session that corresponds to the current connection.  If a
user was to start up the COTS client  then connect to the same db via
sql*plus, I would want the role set *only* for the COTS client session.  My
best thought so far here is to use the most recently started connection
based on v$session.logon_time.

Second, whether the SET ROLE statement is legal in a logon trigger.

All help will be most welcome.

Thanks!

-Roy

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
Extension 8487
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Re: Follow-up: It's NOT possible to set role in db's logon trigger

2003-01-28 Thread Jonathan Lewis

Roy,

I missed the first run of the question, so you've
probably had this answer already.

You can set a role inside a procedure if
the procedure is declared with invoker
rights (authid current_user) although the
procedure cannot then be run in a logon
trigger.

However, in Oracle 9, you could define the
role as an application role protected by
a package.  If COTS attaches to the database
using OCI, then you could consider using
the PROXY_USER features.  In this case,
COTS connects as itself, then becomes
the end-user, without knowing the end-user
password.  Your package could then set
the role based on the fact that
sys_context('userenv','proxy_user')
was 'COTS'.

When the user logs in normally, their
'proxy_user' value will be null.  The only
way that they could switch on the role
would be to write their own OCI program
that logged on as COTS first - which means
they'd have to know the COTS password
anyway, so your data would have been
unprotected anyway.


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Date: 27 January 2003 23:48
trigger


In case anyone cares--it looks like it is *not* possible to set a role
in an
after logon trigger.  Had I only looked at metalink:

AFTER LOGON Triggers Don't Allow DBMS_SESSION.SET_ROLE to Keep Roles
Enabled
http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p
_datab
ase_id=NOTp_id=106140.1

Bummer, that.

Thanks again to all who responded.

Cheers,

-Roy

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
Extension 8487



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Follow-up: It's NOT possible to set role in db's logon trigger

2003-01-27 Thread Pardee, Roy E
In case anyone cares--it looks like it is *not* possible to set a role in an
after logon trigger.  Had I only looked at metalink:

AFTER LOGON Triggers Don't Allow DBMS_SESSION.SET_ROLE to Keep Roles Enabled
http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_datab
ase_id=NOTp_id=106140.1

Bummer, that.

Thanks again to all who responded.

Cheers,

-Roy

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
Extension 8487

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 7:42 AM
To: 'ORACLE-L'


Greetings all,

I'm trying to support a COTS application that is back-end agnostic  makes
only minimal use of security on the db.  In particular, it requires that
users be granted a default role that has *very* heavy permissions--enough to
do some major mischief should they ever figure out how to use odbc or
sql*plus.

My collegues  I have devised a kludgy method for getting around this
problem, involving a shill startup program that turns the default-ness of
the role on  off in conjunction with users opening  closing the client
program.  This works, but is a pain to maintain.

I've recently discovered the v$session.program field  am now wondering
whether it would be possible to use the new-fangled logon system trigger to
set the role only for cases where v$session.program = the COTS client.

Can anybody comment as to whether this is a viable approach on an 8.1.6
database  if not, on a 9i db?

In particular, there are two things I don't know--first, how to select just
the one row in v$session that corresponds to the current connection.  If a
user was to start up the COTS client  then connect to the same db via
sql*plus, I would want the role set *only* for the COTS client session.  My
best thought so far here is to use the most recently started connection
based on v$session.logon_time.

Second, whether the SET ROLE statement is legal in a logon trigger.

All help will be most welcome.

Thanks!

-Roy

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
Extension 8487
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RE: Upgrade from 7.3.4 to 8.0.6 - Possible Solution - Comments?

2003-01-21 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Title: Message



Chris,

That column is added to the table when upgrading 
to 7.3.3 release, by cat7303.sql script.It is possible that this script 
was not run after opening the database under 7.3.3. 


If you are notusing Replication, I don't 
think you need to run catrep8m script. 

If you reviewed Note# 47290.1 on Metalink, you 
will find your answer :) 

I don't think your action (adding this column to 
the dictionary table)was wrong. 

Good 
Luck,

- Kirti 


-Original Message-From: Bowes, Chris 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:21 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
Upgrade from 7.3.4 to 8.0.6 - Possible Solution - Comments?
I 
found a way around the problem. I don't think Oracle will like 
it...

I 
hunted down the offending table that was missing the column DELIVERY_ORDER and 
added it to that dictionary table. I then re-ran the scripts and they 
rebuilt without incident. This was on the test system of 
course.

The 
offending table was system.repcat$_repprop. On all other databases, this 
table has that column and has no rows in it and on the problem base, it doesn't 
have the column, but it also has no rows in it. I know that doesn't mean 
we aren't using that table, but, does anyone know when it gets used? Is 
what I did to fix this acceptable?

Changing dictionary tables is a major red flag, so before I even think of 
trying to push for this solution, I want any and all thoughts on 
this.

Thanks 
again.

--Chris




  
  -Original Message-From: Bowes, Chris 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:19 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Upgrade from 7.3.4 to 8.0.6
  Hi 
  Hemant,
  
   Thank you for your response. I am 
  calling it directly. I do the startup nomount, alter database convert, 
  alter database open resetlogs. Then I fire off the cat8000 and then the 
  catrep8m from svrmgrl. 
  
  I 
  think this is a problem in my dictionary in 7.3.4 as when I recreate the test 
  base and do an export/import and convert the base, it goes flawlessly. 
  This base has limited downtime available, so I cannot do that to the live 
  base.
  
  Oracle support has told me to look at offline datafiles, but this is in 
  the system tablespace, so if that file was offline or needed recovery, the 
  base would be dead.
  
  Any 
  thoughts?
  
  Thank you again,
  
  --Chris
  
  

-Original Message-From: Hemant K 
Chitale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 
21, 2003 8:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Upgrade from 7.3.4 to 
8.0.6Are you calling the catrep8m script directly 
? Or is it being calledfrom some other script [eg catproc.sql 
?].Are you using Advanced Replication ?HemantAt 02:28 PM 
20-01-03 -0800, you wrote:
Hi 
  everyone!  Has anyone 
  seen this and know a solution? I am upgrading a base from 7.3.4 to 
  8.0.6. Everything appears to go fine until the catrep8m 
  script. In that script I get several errors:Statement processed.  
  (P.delivery_order  C.cscn)  
  * ORA-00904: invalid column name grant select on defcalldest to select_catalog_role  
  * ORA-00942: table or view does not exist 
  comment on table DEFCALLDEST is  
  * ORA-00942: table or view does not exist 
  comment on column DEFCALLDEST.CALLNO is  
  * ORA-00942: table or view does not exist 
  comment on column DEFCALLDEST.DEFERRED_TRAN_ID is 
   
  * ORA-00942: table or view does not exist 
  comment on column DEFCALLDEST.DBLINK is  
  * ORA-00942: table or view does not exist 
  DROP PUBLIC SYNONYM defcalldest  
  * ORA-01432: public synonym to be dropped does not 
  exist Statement processed.  
  OR (P.delivery_order  C.cscn  
  * ORA-00904: invalid column name Statement processed. Statement 
  processed. Statement processed. 
  This then forces several dictionary packages invalid 
  and they wont' recompile. I have tried 
  rebuilding the dictionary before I upgrade and rebuilding after I 
  upgrade. Neither one seems to work. When I rebuild, the 
  catrep script gives that same error.So far 
  Oracle hasn't been able to find it. Has anyone seen this and know 
  the fix? Thanks in advance. 
  --Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Hemant K ChitaleMy web site page is : http://hkchital.tripod.com


8.1.6: possible to set role in db's logon trigger?

2003-01-13 Thread Pardee, Roy E
Greetings all,

I'm trying to support a COTS application that is back-end agnostic  makes
only minimal use of security on the db.  In particular, it requires that
users be granted a default role that has *very* heavy permissions--enough to
do some major mischief should they ever figure out how to use odbc or
sql*plus.

My collegues  I have devised a kludgy method for getting around this
problem, involving a shill startup program that turns the default-ness of
the role on  off in conjunction with users opening  closing the client
program.  This works, but is a pain to maintain.

I've recently discovered the v$session.program field  am now wondering
whether it would be possible to use the new-fangled logon system trigger to
set the role only for cases where v$session.program = the COTS client.

Can anybody comment as to whether this is a viable approach on an 8.1.6
database  if not, on a 9i db?

In particular, there are two things I don't know--first, how to select just
the one row in v$session that corresponds to the current connection.  If a
user was to start up the COTS client  then connect to the same db via
sql*plus, I would want the role set *only* for the COTS client session.  My
best thought so far here is to use the most recently started connection
based on v$session.logon_time.

Second, whether the SET ROLE statement is legal in a logon trigger.

All help will be most welcome.

Thanks!

-Roy

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
Extension 8487
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