[OGD] Re: sinensis culture adjustment

2004-08-22 Thread Charles Ufford
Hello,
  Just as an update to my post to culture for spiranthes sinensis, and the
finding I posted that seemed that the species should like wet feet; I have
been told that since there are several species in a very large area that are
called sinensis, some of them, maybe more likely the very warm areas may end
up being found in wet areas, and others in more northern areas will not like
wet feet, but as one person who responded to my post pointed out that the
plants they had of it in a rock garden in massachusetts very much did not
grow in a wet area, but in something more like what spiranthes lacera would
be in; more like standard damp woodland moisture, not wet at all but not
really dry. I guess you just have to try one thing, keep an eye on it and if
it looks unhappy then adjust it quickly!


good luck


on 8/22/04 10:05 PM, Cody Cruise wrote:

> Bill or Dorris, however you want to go by, maybe you're a woofster too? You
> sound a lot like Andy...maybe you share the same bed at times? We live in
> NORTH AMERICA! The US is part of the continent, not the entire continent!
> Get off your high horse, you americans think you're the only people on
> earth...give it a rest, hand it up, loose the ego!!


Cody, you just posted that people in Canada are Americans, too, North
Americans I agree. America as in the American Orchid Society is of
people that live in America, 'The Americas' which consists of South, Central
and North America. AOS members should not 'keep out of it' because they live
in Canada. But Cody, you then state 'you americans think you're the only
people on earth..' ; you make the same error. Since Canadians are also
'americans',just as you here pointed out, you are also chiding yourself and
your countrymen for being egotistical!: )   Just making a point. Your
statement is incorrect of course, as there are millions of United States
Americans that really don't make any point of caring about placing
themselves above or below anybody else in the rest of the world; most of
them are too busy trying to make ends meet to even know there is a world out
there, and are no different than you are. It is too easy to stereotype a
very large amount of people because of the inevitability of finding someone
that matches a stereotype; there are all kinds, everywhere.

take care,
charles

my paph malipoense, after months and months of its flower stalk growing and
growing and growing, the first bud fell off before it fully opened a few
weeks back, and the second one fell off this morning after almost making it
completely open. at least I was able to smell the chocolate/raspberry scent
for a few days before the flower succumbed to it's fear of heights and
commited suicide

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[OGD] Death of Sam Flagler

2004-08-22 Thread Andy Lanier
The orchid world has just lost one of the most avid lovers of orchids.  Sam
Flagler of Jonesville, TX passed away on August 22, 2004. Some on this list
may have known him.  He grew orchids for many years and was very active at
that time in the Shreveport, LA Orchid Society.  He then became the worlds
foremost collector of orchid stamps and other orchid collectibles and traveled
the world in search of these items.  He will be missed by a large number of
people throughout the world.
Andy Lanier
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[OGD] Re: Mormodes

2004-08-22 Thread IrisCohen
I have a very faithful Morm. aromatica which is 26 years old and blooms every 
year. However, it never manages to carry more than about 3 pseudobulbs. Every 
year it grows a new one, but one or two old ones die. Is this normal for the 
species or is there something I could do different? It goes dormant every 
winter & wakes up in the spring.
Iris
Gardening Rule: When weeding, the best way to make sure you are removing a 
weed and not a valuable plant is to pull on it. If it comes out of the ground 
easily, it is a valuable plant.
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[OGD] Re: Orchids Digest, Vol 6, Issue 346

2004-08-22 Thread DennisWestler
> . By the way, do you
> know if can be purchased here in the u.s.? A colored spiranthes would be
> very interesting indeed!
> 
This is the second request I have gotten about this!
I got mine in a trade for some bulbs of a nice Pleione formosana clone I 
have. The man I traded with has just started selling a few locally at our shows 
(October- Orchidfest and February- Pacific Orchid Exposition). He is basically a 
hobbyist mostly growing Disas, Masdevallias, and terrestrials traditionally 
grown by the Japanese. He has no website or e-mail, and his English is pretty 
poor. 

I did a web search, but found no commercial sources in the first 6 pages of 
results (most results were Japanese or Chinese sites). I figure that there must 
be a commercial source here in the US, so you might try wading through the 
thousands of references that come up on Google.

Thanks for the advise on culture! Check out the picture on Jay Pfal's site. 
The flowers though small, as expected are a really lovely pink with a white 
lip.

Sincerely,
Dennis   
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[OGD] re woofers etc

2004-08-22 Thread Peter Spear
Hi,
Yes a woofer is a radio sound system speaker for bass tones
A woofter or wufta or wurfta is derogatory slang for a male homosexual.
see at   http://www.wordreference.com/definition/woofter.htm
Then world wide there are wwoofa's prononced woofer. These are Willing 
workers on organic farms.
For the input on poofter (1)

a man who is considered effeminate or homosexual
(2) (New Zealand)  a contemptible person
No doubt there are other meanings. You can all judge for your selves 
what the person who used the word meant.
regards,
Peter Spear.
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[OGD] Colour Printing/CDs

2004-08-22 Thread Colin.Hamilton
John Stanley wrote:
I haven't followed the entire colour-printing thread and so my comments may
be rather oblique but it does occur to me that many publications could be
produced with an edition online or on CD-ROM. They could have more colour
illustration at magnifiable resolution than is economic with traditional
methods. Many (?-most) readers could  print off appropriate sections to file
far more compactly than  metres of shelf-space taken up by conventional
journals/magazines.Advertisers could have 'active' publicity that needn't
involve more than mouse-clicks for enquiries! Some articles (keys and
indices for example) could make use of digital technology and open up a
whole new world of innovative publication.
*
While it is true that colour printing costs have come down to an extent and
other factors have risen in price (wages, paper and inks) since I was editor
of "Orchids Australia" not so long ago, the idea of electronic publishing has
some flaws.  People seem to think that because a blank disc costs very little
that something published on CD should be cheap.  All the work in preparing a
magazine for example for whatever method of publication is not lessened. Then
after the costs are added in for publishing (disc printing, duplication etc)
it still mounts up.  The one big drawback that I can see with publishing on a
CD is that photographs will not be the same colour when viewed on different
computer monitors, or printed out on paper - due to monitor and printer
manufacturer differences, and personal settings. At least publishing on paper,
everyone gets the same reproduction.

With the help of our printers, "Orchids Australia" is now run on a full colour
printing press which prints the CMYK runs on one pass of the paper through the
press (that's cyan, magenta, yellow and black inks) which has helped reduce
our costs. When I was editor, the layout had to be done in sets of 8 pages,
and half these were printed two-colour because the four-colour process was
just beyond our means.  Now technology has advanced so much it is cheaper to
run on one press.

Colin Hamilton
Webmaster
Australian Orchid Council/"OrchidsAustralia"
Rockhampton, Qld. Australia
www.orchidsaustralia.com
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Re: [OGD] Re: use of "woofter"

2004-08-22 Thread David S.
The correct word for the large speaker in speaker cabinet is a woofer, not
woofter.  According to wordreference.com and others, a woofter is one of the
many British slang words for a male homosexual.  Unfortunately, it's a
not-so-rare surname.

David Sizemore

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> Hello -
> I have never knowingly "hurled epithets" at anyone, or
> any group.
> I was under the impression that we had ascertained
> that a 'woofter' was the large sound-generating round
> thing in a lound speaker!
> My subscription to the Miriam-Webster
> 'word-of-the-day' just doesn't include such eclectic
> fare.
> A thousand apologies - especially to all those who
> have just found out the true definition of 'woofter'
> and now feel insulted. Perhaps I am myself a
> 'woofter.'
> Regards - Nancy
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Re: [OGD] orchid as a city flower

2004-08-22 Thread Stephen Kemp
> 2. State flower of Queensland, Australia-
> Dendrobium biggibum
> (pronunced bee- gee boom, not big -gee bum) AKA the Cookstown Orchid /
> affectionately called the Cookie

Actually it is Dendrobium bigibbum - usually pronounced as 'by-gibbum'
bi - meaning 'two' e.g. bicycle
gibbum - meaning: humped, swollen
and refers to the double hump on the mentum.

The "Cookie" is more specifically D. bigibbum var phalaenopsis syn D.
phalaenopsis or D. bigibbum var superbum. There are  other varieties that
have been recognised with the specific epithet in brackets :
D. bigibbum var bigibbum  (D. bigibbum)
D. bigibbum var compactum  (D. lithocola)
D. bigibbum var laratensis (D. striaenopsis)

"bee- gee boom" is a phenomenon of the 1970s created by 3 ex-Australian
lads. :-)

Cheers...Steve

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[OGD] this is funny

2004-08-22 Thread sandra ott
Being a lurker,  also hobbiest.I'll let you know why I don't subscribe
anymore.  It's the money!  I'm not rich,  I can get a few plants or supplies
for that.  Having grown orchids for many years,  I also have plenty of books
for information.  I use the internet for info and also the growers themselves
that I bought the plants from.

Andy is a jerk,  Iris I love..you made me laugh out loud with the last
posting.  You go girl!

Sandy 
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[OGD] List of Orchids on Coins and Currency

2004-08-22 Thread Andy Lanier
I've just updated my lists of Orchids on Coins and Currency so if anyone is
interested let me know and I'll send it.
Andy
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[OGD] Bashing Each Other

2004-08-22 Thread kgaboury101
I agree with Barbara. But why do the bashers always have a question in 
need of an answer from the person they bashed? If you don't know the 
answer, look under lawyer in the dictionary. It's comes after RAT.
Keep it going Andy. My vote is for Howard.
Keith
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[OGD] woofster as well?

2004-08-22 Thread CC
Bill or Dorris, however you want to go by, maybe you're a woofster too? You
sound a lot like Andy...maybe you share the same bed at times? We live in
NORTH AMERICA! The US is part of the continent, not the entire continent!
Get off your high horse, you americans think you're the only people on
earth...give it a rest, hand it up, loose the ego!!

Cody Cruise
Valley Pest Consulting
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[OGD] posting

2004-08-22 Thread CC
GREAT POST DON

Cody Cruise
Valley Pest Consulting
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[OGD] Re: use of "woofter"

2004-08-22 Thread nancy
Hello -
I have never knowingly "hurled epithets" at anyone, or
any group. 
I was under the impression that we had ascertained
that a 'woofter' was the large sound-generating round
thing in a lound speaker! 
My subscription to the Miriam-Webster
'word-of-the-day' just doesn't include such eclectic
fare.
A thousand apologies - especially to all those who
have just found out the true definition of 'woofter'
and now feel insulted. Perhaps I am myself a
'woofter.'
Regards - Nancy
Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.
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[OGD] Re: Spiranthes sinensis

2004-08-22 Thread Charles Ufford
on 8/22/04 10:26 AM,Dennis wrote:

> On an Orchidaceous note, I recently was given Spiranthes sinensis, a plant I
> had long desired to have. Will this plant thrive in conditions suitable for
> Spiranthes odorata? Specifically, will it handle wet winters?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dennis Westler 

Hello Dennis,
  From this gardening website
http://davesgarden.com/pdb/go/55566///
it seems that it will handle conditions to zone 6b which seems about as far
north as northern pennsylvania (max of -10F in winter) and that it requires
very wet conditions as found in bogs or other wetlands, and they state that
it could be used as a landscape pool type plant. I have never seen a
'colored' spiranthes here up in new york, just the lucida which has a bright
yellow lip, or other forms of yellowish coloration or tint. Even though this
gardening site lists range from asia to australia and the gardening site
says it will handle zone 6, I think someone's suggestion that it rest
winters in the refrigerator is probably a very good one. By the way, do you
know if can be purchased here in the u.s.? A colored spiranthes would be
very interesting indeed!

regards,
charles
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IPA, Central NY and Southern Tier Orchid Societies
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[OGD] Anguloa virginalis - thanks

2004-08-22 Thread viateur . boutot
Henry Oakeley
Jean-Marie Vanderwinden
Simon M. Wellinga
Thanks for the help and interest in response to my query about the 
illustration published in the Botanical Magazine which, apparently, does 
depict the species Anguloa virginalis.

I will be looking forward to the book about Lycaste, Ida and Anguloa which 
Henry Oakeley is to publish some time soon.

Best regards,
Viateur 
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[OGD] Saltpeter as a fertilizer component?

2004-08-22 Thread MGOrchids
I'm guessing that USP grade saltpeter is OK to use as a fertilizer component 
for orchids.  Does anyone know anything to the contrary?  (I imagine it's much 
more expensive than buying technical grade potassium nitrate in bulk, but 
it's readily available here in that form and cheap enough for my experimental 
purposes.)

Michael Gerzog
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[OGD] woofs 'n' poofs

2004-08-22 Thread T.N. Lewin
When I lived in Australia, it was poofter.  I hope this contributes greatly to
understanding the etymology of the word.
But although this word has a particular meaning, I found it to be hurled at
anyone- from the guy who cut you off in traffic to wayward politicians  Hell,
I even heard people's grandmothers saying it.  The amount of times that I have
heard John Howard called a 'poof' are too numerous to count.

Now, can we lay the woofter/poofter debate to rest?

Bob's your uncle,
-T
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Re: [OGD] orchid as a city flower

2004-08-22 Thread Kelvin - Sebastian Chuay Siew Yong
Hi there,

... I thought Cattleya trianei (yes, the only catt on Appendix I) WAS the
national flower of Columbia..

I'm proud to be a citizen of the only country with a hybrid as a
national flower - Vanda Miss Joaquim 'Agnes'. Same country of whic POB is
residing now. But I've difficulty convincing some Hawai'ians that one of the
cultivars  the 'Hula Girl Orchid' is in fact our national flower and the
original cutting at started the leis sensation came from here.

The other place with orchids as their state/national flower:

1. Panama-Peristeria elata (yes, another Appendix one) AKA
Flore de Espirito Santo / Holy Ghost Orchid
2. State flower of Queensland, Australia-Dendrobium biggibum
(pronunced bee- gee boom, not big -gee bum) AKA the Cookstown Orchid /
affectionately called the Cookie
3. Costa Rica-Gurianathe (nee Cattleya) skinneri AKA Flore
de San Sebastian / Guaria Morada
4. Venezuela-Cattleya mossiae AKA Mrs Mosses' Orchid / May
Flower / Flore de Mayo, interestingly enough, the former national flower was
Catesetum pileatum but its range went into Brazil.
5.  Brazil-formerly Catesetum pileatum var imperialis then
Lycaste skinneri var virginalis (Now Guatemala's National Flower) then
Laelia purpurata now a check on the net finally showed a non-orchid, the
Ipj-amarelo - (Tecoma chrysostricha)
6.  Indonesia-Phalaenopsis amabilis AKA Anggrek bulan / Moon
Orchid
7.  (If I'm not wrong) Okinawa, Japan-Sedirea japonica /
Okinawa orchid
8.  Belize-Encyclia cochleata AKA Cockle-shell Orchid /
Black Orchid
9.  New Hampshire-Cypripedium acaule AKA Pink Lady's Slipper
10. Minnesota-Cypripedium reginae AKA Pink and White Lady's
Slipper
11.Guatelama-Lycaste skinneri var virginalis AKA Monja
Blanca / White Nun Orchid
12.Honduras-Rhyncolaelia digbyana
13.Cayman Islands-Schomburgkia thompsoniana AKA Wild Banana
Orchid (Produced en masse in Taiwan, and they call it the Banana Orchid in
Hokkien / Fujianese / Daiwan wei / Minnan Wei and Mandarin)
14.State flower of Sarawak (East Malaysia)-Phalaenopsis
bellina

I think the Koreans may be adopting Cymbidium kanran - one which Oriental
cymbids enthusiast associate with Korea more.

If you check through a lisiting of national flowers, you'll realise that
some countries actually change their national emblems rather frequently.

These are recalled from memory and is due to be scruntised.
Mit herzliche Grusz!

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> Hello OGDers :
>
> Recently, I was informed that the capital of Colombia will soon adopt an
> orchid species as its official flower.
>
> I knew of orchids having been adopted as symbols by countries, states or
> provinces but was not aware that some orchids have been designated as city
> flowers.
>
> I found out that two Japanese cities, Himeji and Setagaya, have choosen
> Habenaria radiata as their symbol.
> Two Chinese cities,  Guiyang and Shaoxing, have also adopted the orchid as
> their city's plant (I am not aware of specific names). In South Korea, the
> city of Sogwipo adopted the 'Korean orchid' as its symbol.
>
> Could you provide specific names for the orchids chosen by the above
> mentioned Asian cities ?
> Are you aware of any other city which has adopted an orchid as its symbol
?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Viateur
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[OGD] RE: Dr. Braem answering everything and anything

2004-08-22 Thread Michel Hidalgo
Dear Dr. Braem:
I was out on vacation and realize this post might be old. Anyhow I do
not want to star another flame.
Why are you so sensitive to any comments that everybody writes?
Why don't you grow up and stop bullying everybody? Although I had a good
laugh every time you wrote an answer, it is getting annoying and totally
meaningless.
Don't you realize that if anybody attacks you professionally the only
thing you have to do is answer back with a page of your resume?
It appears that you do not know that once a war is started nobody knows
how it will finish and who is going to win it!
Actually on February 17th 2004 you asked Kenneth to withdraw you from
this list. WHY DID YOU COME BACK?

"Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:43:53 +0100
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What the hell is going on out there ... what is your problem ... are 
most of you to stupid to read postings as they are written???

I am fed up of getting insulted for every fricking posting on the list 
because a number of people does not seem to be capapble of doing plain 
reading.

You want taxonomy by non taxonomists ... fine!

Go to hell!

Kenneth, please take me off this list ... that's it ... I have better 
things to do

Cheers
Guido
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All the best

Michel Hidalgo
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