[OGD] endangered bird threatens Tasmanian orchids
Lyrebird [also called Native Pheasant] ... is becoming a pest in Tasmania's world heritage area. The lyrebird is not native to Tasmania but it is protected and cannot be culled. In the 1930s it was brought over from Victoria where foxes were threatening to wipe out the species. Since then, the lyrebird has spread through Tasmania's wilderness and is changing the character of the wet forests. Zoologist Michael Driessen says work is under way to protect rare plants from the lyrebird. We've put some exclosures up to protect a rare orchid in the south-west, which hadn't been see flowering for quite a long time and thought this was because of the activity of the lyrebird, he said. Since those exclosures have gone up, we have seen some flowering of those [UNNAMED..] rare orchids. http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200503/s1331135.htm *** more info on the lyrebird : http://www.australianstamp.com/Coin-web/feature/nature/lyrebird.htm Regards, Viateur ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] a gigantic Phalaenospis...
rare orchid variety back from near extinction ... the Phal. Gigantia variety [Phalaenopsis gigantea, a species...] of orchid from Southeast Asia, which was on the brink of extinction, has been successfully nurtured and grown by Chen Lung-hui, who has won an agricultural award in Tainan County for his efforts. The petals of this type of orchid are enormous. Each petal looks like an elephant's ear and can be as long as 60 centimeters. The petal is generally yellow and has spots. A Japanese orchid association has certified the orchid as a top quality specimen and it will be displayed publicly for the first time at the 2005 Taiwan International Orchid Exhibition. The Phal. Gigantia orchid is native to a belt around Indonesia. Given its stable genetic structure, the orchid has become popular among many in the orchid community. However, trying to grow the Phal. Gigantia is extremely difficult, and the plant usually dies. When Indonesia had large forest fires five and six years ago, the Phal. Gigantia became a victim and nearly went extinct. Chen Lung-hui had a special fondness for this variety of orchid. Prior to the forest fires, he had imported some of the plants from Indonesia's Kalimantan. He discovered that the orchid was extremely sensitive to humidity, temperature and light. He said that when watering the plant, one had to be careful to only dampen its roots. Otherwise, the stems where the flowers would grow would rot and fall off. He used a snake-wood's plate to grow the orchid and affixed the plate to a wall. In order to keep from giving the plant too much moisture, he would control the temperature in the room to between 23 and 28 degrees, creating the ideal environment for the plant to grow. Chen has a 70-ping greenhouse at his orchid farm in Yuching Township, which is where he nurtured the Phal. Gigantia. He used tissue growth methods to try and nurture new plants, and he finally overcame a bottleneck last year. This year, he has begun to produce the plants on a large scale. Records show that the largest variety of Phal. Gigantia in the world has a petal that extends for about 100 centimeters [really ? smiles...]. It is documented that one of these plants was once sold for NT$250,000 (US$8,064). Chen does not intend to sell his orchids for that price, however. He believes that everyone should be able to enjoy flowers. He said that once he is able to grow the variety in large numbers and market them, a Phal. Gigantia with a petal that is about 10 centimeters [still impressing...] should cost the consumer only about NT$100 or so. When selling the plant, he will also enclose instructions on how to care for it, providing more information for consumers on how to appreciate orchids. source and complete news item : http://english.www.gov.tw/index.jsp?id=13recid=104810viewdate=0 *** Regards, Viateur ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Taiwanese orchids
According to... the Taiwan External Trade Development Council, Taiwan has recently become the world's No. 1 orchid producer, with nearly a quarter of all orchids sold globally having at least started out as seedlings in Taiwan. ... The 2005 Taiwan International Orchid Show is taking place at the Taiwan Orchid Plantation in Tainan County's Houbi Township March 26-April 10. Still under construction and slated for completion in 2008, the park will integrate resources for professional and international development of orchid products and is designed to become a platform for international marketing and exchange of technological and other information. Over 1,000 new hybrids will be displayed at the show, and a three-day symposium will be held March 26-28, with speeches by experts from Taiwan, Thailand, Germany, Japan, Netherlands and the United States on the orchid genuses Phalaenopsis and Paphiopedilum. Topics include orchid embryology and breeding, preservation of wild species and business strategies. ... Taiwan's only two local moth orchid species are P. amabilis and P. equestris, which are also found, respectively, in Indonesia and the Philippines. ... The white, five-petalled sub-species of P. amabilis found in Taiwan--P. amabilis var. formosa--is known locally as the Taiwanese grandmother butterfly orchid, based on the sound of the word fragment ama in amabilis, which in the local Hoklo Chinese dialect means fraternal grandmother. P. amabilis var. formosa is found ... on Orchid Island, off the southeast coast of Taiwan, as well as in Taiwan's southern counties of Taitung and Pingtung. The earliest scientific record of it dates back to 1879, when it was discovered on Orchid Island. Of course, the first to discover it there must have been the island's indigenous Tao people, who knew and loved it for thousands of years. Overlooked even by experts until half a century ago, P. amabilis var. formosa became a household word among orchid aficionados the world over when hybrids developed from it won the top prize at an international orchid show in California two years in a row in 1952 and 1953. Three years later, another hybrid of this Taiwanese orchid won a gold medal at the Nantes International Flower Festival in 1956, stunning festival goers with its astounding total of about 300 blossoms. ... Last year, Taiwan exported about US$10 million worth of bare-root slipper orchids, making it the world's No. 1 exporter of this genus of orchid. Of that amount, more than US$9 million went to the United States, which to date forbids the importation of orchids rooted in sphagnum moss or other mediums in order to avoid importing insect pests. Tainan County is Taiwan's most important orchid growing region, accounting for about 40 percent of the land area devoted to orchids. Last year, the county hosted the Asia-Pacific Orchid Conference for the first time. It recently lost out to Singapore for the right to hold the triennial 2011 World Orchid Conference but, as a world leader in orchid production, will probably not long be denied that honor. France hosted the conference this March, and Miami is the 2008 venue. According to the organizers of the Taiwan International Orchid Show, not many years ago only big orchid growers in Taiwan could compete in the global market. In recent years, however, promotional events such as the current orchid show have enabled smaller players to get a piece of the action and build direct farmer-to-buyer relations. At last year's show, suppliers and sellers from all over the world made deals worth about US$19 million, and a substantially higher volume of transactions is anticipated at this year's show. Postage stamps picturing orchids from many countries are on display at the Tainan orchid show, including 18 featuring native Taiwanese wild orchids such as Pleione formosana and Haraella retrocalla. Pleione formosana is a small terrestrial orchid, measuring 15-25 centimeters high. Reputed as a national treasure, it favors mist-enshrouded mountain crags 1,500 to 2,500 meters above sea level and, in earlier times, could be found in the mountains of Taipei, Yilan, Hsinchu and Miaoli counties. It got its name in 1911 from a Japanese scholar who came to do research in Taiwan. The Greek word Pleione is the name of a beautiful goddess. Currently, wild Pleione formosana orchids are largely limited to the Mount Ali and Mount Hehuan areas as the result of excessive harvesting for export to Japan. Beginning in 1983, aboriginal people in Miaoli County's mountainous Nanjhuang Township began cultivating Pleione formosana in the Jiali Mountain area, where it once grew wild. Now, exports of their cultured seedlings to Japan and the United States bring in a healthy profit. Haraella retrocalla, known locally as the Taiwanese fragrant orchid or cattle horn orchid, is a
[OGD] Need Help
In traking a copy of the article or the publication. Classification of Orchidaceae in the Age of DNA data Author: Mark W. Chase Source: Curtis's Botanical Magazine, February 2005, vol. 22, no. 1, pp. 2-7(6) TIA Jose ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Kathy Creger.
Title: Kathy Creger. Kathy, Have never met you, really could care less whether I ever do or not. If you are Pleurothallid nut, maybe I would suggest leaving out the adjective! But, different strokes for different folks. All I would be interested in with the Paph. rothschidianum was whether it matched up to the quality of the plants that are being awarded in California and Florida, not whether it was a cut spray or on the plant. I did check out the plant in question's vital statistics and maybe it was a bit lucky. That is what being an involved and up-to-date judge necessitates. I plan to be in Minneapolis for the Spring AOS Members' Meetings, most of the people from your area have been more polite and welcoming. If you don't mind, I would prefer not having any contact. Andy Easton ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Taiwan orchid production to grow 10-fold
Taiwan's annual orchid production has exceeded US$100 million and is expected to grow by 10-fold in five years ... Taiwan's orchid exports have been growing at an annual rate of more than 50 percent... source and complete news item : http://english.www.gov.tw/index.jsp?action=cnacnaid=7996 *** Regards, Viateur ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Fuchs and Dijon, OGD V7#146
Sheldon, Fuchs did not exactly "...clean up at Dijon with his Vandas." At the end of the regular round of judging, threeVanda awards were given, including a gold to Martin Motes, Fuchs' South Florida rival, for best Vanda in Show [V. Blue Grig x V. Arjuna], a bronze toMotes for V. Motes Toledo Blue x V. Arjuna, and a silver, to Fuchs, for a Motes cross [Motes Gold Piece "24 Carot"]. After the regular judging round was completed, an unusual "Rectification Committee" was appointed, with questionable Vanda expertise, to reconsider the awards of the regular team and they awarded two more silvers to Fuchs for plants passed up entirely by theregular judging team, as well as two more bronzes for Motes. We can onlyspeculate about the eventsleading tothe formation of the "Rectification Committee." At any rate that is hardly what I would regard as "cleaning up" for Fuchs. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Phalaenopsis gigantea articles
Hi Viateur, Thanks for the link to the article about Phalaenopsis gigantea. Not trying to be critical, but the name (Phalaenopsis Gigantia) is spelt wrong; the article carries no picture ofthis huge plant;the reporter appears not to know difference between petal and leaf. Here is a link to Peter Lin's excellent article on Phalaenopsis gigantea. Peter is the owner of Big Leaf Orchids in Texas. http://www.phalaenopsis.net/Info/gigantea.htm ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Phalaenopsis gigantea J.J. Sm.
Thanks Peter [Croezen] for your note of appreciation. Glad to know that you found the article interesting. ** You wrote : Not trying to be critical, but the name (Phalaenopsis Gigantia) is spelt wrong 1) No problem with being critical, as long as you remain courteous and respectful as you have always been even when expressing polite disagreements. 2) If you read my post cautiously, your will note that, between brackets, I indicated the correct spelling and that the word variety is equivocally used in the article : [Phalaenopsis gigantea, a species...] You also wrote : the reporter appears not to know difference between petal and leaf Again, with the quoted text, I provided some comments, between brackets : 1) has a petal that extends for about 100 centimeters [really ? smiles...] 2) with a petal that is about 10 centimeters [still impressing...] 0 can make a big difference, indeed ! Thanks for providing a link to Peter Lin's web page on the species. Best regards, Viateur ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
RE: [OGD] Need Help
Jose, I can photocopy the article and send it to you if you'd like. If someone else has online access, that might be easier. Let me know off-list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Cheers, Kathryn Kathryn Theiss Research Intern Institute for Plant Conservation Chicago Botanic Garden -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jose A. Izquierdo Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:03 AM To: orchids@orchidguide.com Subject: [OGD] Need Help In traking a copy of the article or the publication. Classification of Orchidaceae in the Age of DNA data Author: Mark W. Chase Source: Curtis's Botanical Magazine, February 2005, vol. 22, no. 1, pp. 2-7(6) TIA Jose ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Phalaenopsis gigantea
Hi Viateur, My comments were not directed at your post, but at the article youprovided a link to. I should have read your entire post, which I did not. Sorry. Peter ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Rectification Committee.
Title: Rectification Committee. Bert, Can you list the people on this committee? I have seen the list and I felt they were widely experienced judges from a broad cross spectrum. I think you are trying to evade my earlier questions. Were you a judge in good standing of the SFOS at the time of judging in Dijon? Yes or no. I am happy to accept that you were qualified to judge in Malaysia. I am equally certain that your judging credentials were withdrawn by SFOS several years ago. After all, we judges always serve at the discretion of our parent body, be it the AOS, RHS, JOGA etc. Andy Easton ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Robert Fuchs' Response
Dear OGD Subscribers, Now that I have returned from the 18WOC and France, I want to clarify some issues that have been bandied-about here in the past week or so, especially as my name has come up on several occasions. First, with respect to Bert Pressman's allegations of improprieties before and during the 18WOC judging Yes, indeed, Bert did participate in judging at the 17WOC in Shah Alam, Malaysia, in 2002. At the time he was a certified South Florida Orchid Society (SFOS) judge. He asked me to provide a credentials letter for him so he could participate in the 17WOC judging, and I was happy to do so. For some years prior to this, Bert did participate as an SFOS judge at the Miami International Orchid Show. What he doesn't mention is that SFOS judges are not members of the regular show judging teams, nor do they participate (except perhaps as observers in some instances) in AOS judging at this show. The South Florida Orchid Society presents its own medals and special awards at the show, and these awards are granted by teams of SFOS judges. Bert did also serve as education chairman for the show, organizing its lecture program for several years. Some months after the 17WOC, however, Bert resigned as a member of SFOS, and as a judge. This resignation terminated his certification as an SFOS judge. If he has credentials from another organization, I don't know of them, but he certainly has not had SFOS credentials since the summer of 2002. If he were currently certified, I would have provided a credentials letter for him for Dijon at his request; I am the Chairman of the SFOS Awards Committee Second, the alleged "confiscation" of his plants is simply and absolutely not true. This is an episode we have put behind us but Bert continues to exhume and flog this very dead horse. There was no "joint" order; Bert misrepresented (to me and to the shipper) some details of plants to be included in a shipment ordered by R.F. Orchids from an overseas supplier. If he continues to slander me, my nursery and my staff, we will be happy to reopen the case with our counsel. He may not have all the documents and correspondence pertaining to this incident in his files any longer, but I can assure him that I do, and our attorney does. Let's move on, Bert. Third, I did not "fail" in the Florida-Caribbean Judging Center. I deliberately transferred to the Atlanta Judging Center to complete my training in a more wholesome and non-political atmosphere. I served proudly in the Atlanta Center for five years before transferring to the West Palm Beach Judging Center, and am proud to be a member of this wonderful group of judges and orchid lovers. I still maintain close personal ties to many members of the Atlanta Center and the Florida-Caribbean Center. Fourth, Michael Coronado is a Student Judge in the AOS West Palm Beach Center. He registered with the 18WOC as an AOS Student Judge, and was proud to be included on a judging team at the 18WOC. He was delighted to receive the courtesies extended to him by the 18WOC judging committee. On a personal note, I want to commend and thank the organizers of the 18WOC for all their hard work and all of the courtesies extended to me and to everyone else who attended or participated in the conference and show. We were treated with unfailing kindness and made very welcome indeed. Of course with any undertaking of this magnitude there were a few glitches and rough spots; everything was resolved without fuss, and we very much enjoyed the conference and show. Now we're looking forward to our own schedule of hard work to present the 19th World Orchid Conference in Miami Beach in 2008. I hope we can all move forward together in a spirit of good will and cooperation, to bring this next WOC to a successful outcome, to bring orchid lovers from all around the world together to share our passion for these flowers, to meet new friends and renew past friendships, to learn from one another, and to expand all our horizons. It may be a vain hope that people will leave their petty bickering, feuds and politics at home in 2008, but I do hold that hope for the good of the WOC and orchid lovers everywhere. Robert Fuchs R.F. Orchids Co-Chairman, 19th World Orchid Conference Miami Beach, Florida, USA, 2008 ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Vandaceous Medals in Dijon.
Title: Vandaceous Medals in Dijon. Despite some online comments to the contrary, it certainly appears to me that two Gold Medals were awarded in the Vandaceous section in Dijon. As both trace to South Florida, I can only feel this bodes well for an outstanding display from this group of orchids at Miami in 2008. Little tidbits of great interest still trickle out from Dijon returnees. It appears that not only did Alasdair Morrison almost return from the dead when he was mobilized to swing the vote for Singapore, he also tried to crash the stage with all the dignitaries and had to be found a chair so that red faces and stifled chuckles did not spread. Further, at the windup function, one of the South African group was observed whispering in Joyce Stewart's ear. Her royal smile quickly faded as the chat progressed and it ended with her in tears. Seems quite a few people are on to her game! And finally, a prediction: if she retires from the RHS Orchid Committee at 70 years of age, as mere mortals are required to do, I will donate $1,000 to the AOS. Have a Happy Easter. Andy Easton ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Oncidium cebolleta / a note of thanks
Thanks to Aaron J. Hicks for sharing a copy in PDF format of the article F.R.Stermitz, T.R.Suess, C.K.Schauer, O.P.Anderson, and R.A.Bye, Jr., New and Old Phenanthrene Derivatives from Oncidium cebolleta, A. Peyote-Replacement Plant, J. Nat. Prod., 46, 417-423 (1983). *** Aaron's collaboration was duplicated : I forwarded the article to an OGD colleague from Colombia who indicated that he will be studying the article during the weekend. Aaron's collaboration, indeed a most busy person who takes the time wading through all this other stuff, is much appreciated. Best regards, Viateur ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] a gigantic Phalaenospis...
Viateur, Did you actually read and understand the quoted news item? It is complete and utter nonsense and such 'news' should not be circulated on this forum. The author of the quoted article obviously does not even know the difference between petal and leaf. More here: http://www.phalaenopsis.net/Info/gigantea.htm Wolfgang H. Bandisch - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orchids@orchidguide.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:37 PM Subject: [OGD] a gigantic Phalaenospis... rare orchid variety back from near extinction ... the Phal. Gigantia variety [Phalaenopsis gigantea, a species...] of orchid from Southeast Asia, which was on the brink of extinction, has been successfully nurtured and grown by Chen Lung-hui, who has won an agricultural award in Tainan County for his efforts. The petals of this type of orchid are enormous. Each petal looks like an elephant's ear and can be as long as 60 centimeters. The petal is generally yellow and has spots. A Japanese orchid association has certified the orchid as a top quality specimen and it will be displayed publicly for the first time at the 2005 Taiwan International Orchid Exhibition. The Phal. Gigantia orchid is native to a belt around Indonesia. Given its stable genetic structure, the orchid has become popular among many in the orchid community. However, trying to grow the Phal. Gigantia is extremely difficult, and the plant usually dies. When Indonesia had large forest fires five and six years ago, the Phal. Gigantia became a victim and nearly went extinct. Chen Lung-hui had a special fondness for this variety of orchid. Prior to the forest fires, he had imported some of the plants from Indonesia's Kalimantan. He discovered that the orchid was extremely sensitive to humidity, temperature and light. He said that when watering the plant, one had to be careful to only dampen its roots. Otherwise, the stems where the flowers would grow would rot and fall off. He used a snake-wood's plate to grow the orchid and affixed the plate to a wall. In order to keep from giving the plant too much moisture, he would control the temperature in the room to between 23 and 28 degrees, creating the ideal environment for the plant to grow. Chen has a 70-ping greenhouse at his orchid farm in Yuching Township, which is where he nurtured the Phal. Gigantia. He used tissue growth methods to try and nurture new plants, and he finally overcame a bottleneck last year. This year, he has begun to produce the plants on a large scale. Records show that the largest variety of Phal. Gigantia in the world has a petal that extends for about 100 centimeters [really ? smiles...]. It is documented that one of these plants was once sold for NT$250,000 (US$8,064). Chen does not intend to sell his orchids for that price, however. He believes that everyone should be able to enjoy flowers. He said that once he is able to grow the variety in large numbers and market them, a Phal. Gigantia with a petal that is about 10 centimeters [still impressing...] should cost the consumer only about NT$100 or so. When selling the plant, he will also enclose instructions on how to care for it, providing more information for consumers on how to appreciate orchids. source and complete news item : http://english.www.gov.tw/index.jsp?id=13recid=104810viewdate=0 *** Regards, Viateur ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Open Mouth Insert Bare foot Again!
Kind readers, I do apologize to you all Andy in particular for using a term some would find offensive. My grandma used it regularly as a term for a mishief maker/stirrer upper! I get exasperated sitting down to read a couple weeks worth of the OGD finding so much sniping I should learn to not reply when tired, late at night. (I'm really good at opening mouth, inserting foot when tired) I thought I was being funny/toung in cheek I was wrong. Andy I have met enjoyed several good meals conversations, always in a large group at a few shows. (I might be glad he doesn't remember me.) I will reintroduce my nutty self in April, with the same smile I had on my face when I wrote the post hope he doesn't box MY ears. Again, sorry for doing what I said I was so tired of- sniping. Sincere regards, Kathy in MN P.S. Mouth firmly shut now! ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Sheesh
Bonfire of the Vanities! Clash of the Titan egos! Give it a rest folks. You people are diminishing yourselves to being almost invisible to those of us who are just interested in orchids. Buzz Windsong Orchids ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Phalaenopsis gigantea : leaf / petal
Wolfgang [H. Bandisch] : You wrote : Did you actually read and understand the quoted news item? Yes. You wrote : It is complete and utter nonsense. Your opinion. You wrote : such 'news' should not be circulated on this forum. You need to explain. You wrote : The author of the quoted article obviously does not even know the difference between petal and leaf. Most readers would notice that in reading the news item : http://english.www.gov.tw/index.jsp?id=13recid=104810viewdate=0 Please read my answer to a note similar to yours : http://orchidguide.com/pipermail/orchids_orchidguide.com/2005-March/001578.html now, some info about the species (leaf / petal) that you might have contributed if you had wished to enlighten us : 1) Lvs 50 x 20 cm source : Manual of Orchids, 1995, p. 278. 2) Leaves ... up to 50 cm long, 20 cm broad... Flowers ... about 5 cm across The Manual of Cultivated Orchid Species, 1981, p. 364. 3) their leaves, 20 cm. wide and 45 cm long... 4.5 cm diameter flowers The Orchid Review, December 1984, p. 392. * some additional references about the species : Holle De Raeve, A. van 1991Phalaenopsis gigantea in Schlechteriana, 2(1): 3-8. Mannens, P. 1999Phalaenopsis gigantea in Orchideeen, no. 3: 47. Mannens, P. 2000Phalaenopsis gigantea in Orchideeen, no.3: 51. Mayr, H. 1986 Am Standort von Phalaenopsis gigantea, Phalaenopsis amabilis und Phalaenopsis cornu-cervi in Orchidee, 37(4): 177-180. Pupulin, F. 1988Phalaenopsis gigantea J.J. Smith in Orchis, no.54: 36-39. Smith, J. J. 1987Phalaenopsis gigantea in Orchideeen, 49(2): 71-72. Sweet, H. R. 1972 Observations on the genus Phalaenopsis: 8. Phalaenopsis gigantea in Orchid Dig., 36(2): 67-68. 1972 also publ. in Orchid Soc. S.E.Asia,, no.8: 5-6. Young, R. 1978 The discovery of Phalaenopsis gigantea in Sabah in Sandakan Orchid Soc. Ann. Orchid. Show, 1978: 52-53. 1978 Discovery of Phalaenopsis gigantea in Sabah in Bull. Orchid Soc. S.E. Asia: 6 - 8 (September 1978). 1979 The discovery of Phalaenopsis gigantea in Sabah in Orchid Dig., 43(1): 28 - 29. Anon. 1981Phalaenopsis gigantea in Orchideer, 2(8): 144. * Regards, Viateur ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] full moon
Everybody take a break. There's a full moon, and it seems that everyone is under its influence. 1. The WOC is over, and we can't do anything to change whatever happened there. Get over it. 2. Andy will opine at will, and we can't do anything about it. Get over it. 3. Kathy will tilt at windmills at night while howling at the moon, and we can't do anything about it. Get over it. Hi Kathy. 4. Viateur will find all kinds of interesting (or not) articles and references, which are useful (or not), and will continue to do so, and we can't do anything about it. Get over it. 5. Peters of various ilks will try to convince us of their righteous politics, which is their right, and we can't do anything about it. Get over it. Can we please go back to talking about interesting orchids, and RO systems, and fertilizers, and not personalities? Thank you all so much. li'l frog ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] hallucinogenic ethnobotanicals
Actually, the solution to Peyote nausea is an enema, rather than a suppository. they have actually found Mayan (I believe...I may be wrong and they could be Aztec) engravings of people getting enema's. I also recall at least one college friend who enthused about peyote enema's.However, the nauseating compounds in peyote are separate from the hallucinogenic ones. Supposedly, Trichocereus pachanoi (San Pedro) and its hallucinogenic congenerics do not contain the nauseating alkaloids. While I grow San Pedro cactus, along with T. peruvianus, I have not sampled them, so I cannot vouch for this aspect of their use. (But Trichocereus does make an excellent grafting stock). However, someone who did try it simply described it as disgusting and slimy, not nauseating. I wish I had known about Oncidium cebolleta before I gave mine away...(after growing it for 10+ years)...but for curiosity value only...I can't conceive of ingesting alkaloids I have never heard ofTake care, Eric Muehlbauer in Queens NY...Paphs haynaldianum, delanatii, and emersonii in bloom. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
