[OGD] Virus
Hello, someone told me that it is impossible for Bulbophyllum to have virus, is this true? Thank you and many greetings, Marianne . ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] You be the judge part 1
It is abloody shamethat the smear campaign started against Alfredo Manrique in Peruin 2003 has now been expanded to theUSA. Alfredo is the owner of Centro de JardineriaManrique nursery in Lima Peru; he is a nice and totally honest man; liked instantly by everyone who meets him. In May 2002, after Kovach purchased his Big Red at a roadside orchidkiosk in Peru, between Moyobamba and Chachapoyas, the Pk rush started and resulted in all major habitats beingquickly depleted of all mature Pk and Pk seedlings..The last big habitat had an estimated 2000 mature Pk plants. Pictures of the Pk habitat destruction in my possession will make you cry. In May of 2003, one year after Kovach's purchase, Alfredo Manrique was issued INRENA Permit 001 to collect five mature Pk plants and start Artificial Mass Propagation.Knowing Alfredofrom some work I did in Peru, I knew INRENAhad made an excellent choice. It did not surprise me that soon after this event, Manuel Arias Silva obtained permit 002. Alfredo, being the man of action and integrity he is, immediately did all the necessary research in the Pk habitat andstarted the difficult task of Pk culture, having no experience of any kindto draw on. Theplants were moved from an elevation of 1900 meters a.b.s.l.to Lima at 200 m.a.s.l. Alfredo, learned very quickly how to grow his five plants, for he has studied botanyand has orchid nursery experience that allows him to quickly spotproblems and take appropriate actions. Many times in that first year he would write me of the changes in culture he had made One important finding inAlfredo's nursery was that Pk seed production is extremely poor, severely limiting the number of seedlings produced in one season. Alfredo never did purchase illegal seeds offered for sale, and he never will. That is the kind of man I know he is. Arias also obtained five plants, and from the flask sales that were published on the Peruflora website under the name Legal Pk Owners, now removed from that website, it was clear thatPeruflora's five Pk plants produced many times the number of seedsthat Alfredo's five Pk plants produced. The large quantity of flasks sold by Peruflora wasnoted not just by myself, but by many, including an orchid nursery owner in Moyobamba, who has collected orchidsin the Pk habitat area for more than 45 plus years; he knows the area like the back of his handand visited all the known Pk habitats from the day they were discovered until none were left. Hewrote me thatmiracles must be happening at Peruflora, for in his experience, the 2000 plus Pk plants in the habitat,together, could not produce that many seeds. (Peter O'Byrne, youknow it too! Thanks for your post.) see part 2 that follows ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] You be the judge part 2
part 2 The Pk propagation program at CJM experienced some problems,but these were overcome. When it was time to obtain Pk flask export permits from INRENA,Alfredo found out that complaints about hisPk operation had been received by INRENA, who of course had to follow up and inspect his premises. His Export permit was put on hold until the inspection and lab analysis were completed. When an inspection and analysiswas completed and the complaints were found to be unsubstantiated, new allegations of Alfredo's wrong doings arrived at INRENA. The end result was that Alfredo did not get his INRENA Export Permit until one full year after Peruflora got theirs. That is why Peruflora had a flask sales monopoly for one whole year.The WOC was heldin Dijon France that same year, with only one legal Pk flasks vendor there,Peruflora, when the whole world wanted to purchase Pk flasks. This yearAlfredo finally got his Export Permits, thank Heavens. Glen Decker is Alfredo's distributor for the USA and rest the world; I am his distributor for Canada. Glen Decker sells some Pk flasks, I will only sell compot ready Pk seedlings. Having flasked orchids for over twenty years on a daily basis, I think I am qualified to say that the CJM flasks are of excellent quality.The first Alfredo Pk replates were done by flasking expert Fritz Schomburg, who's impressive lab I have visited twice in the past few months. I am proud to be associated with CJM and particularly with the best man INRENA picked for the job, Alfredo Manrique. I know that Glen and Fritz feel the same way about this. The smear campaign that started inPeru now seems to have moved to the USA. What else would explain the recent posts containing absurdand stupid lies about CJM's Pk flasks. The CJM flasks Glen Decker and I have are excellent, please compare them with the competition's flasks and make up your own mind. See for yourself at this website: http://home.golden.net/~orchids/Pkcomp.html Thank you for your time and know that I simply can not remain silent when Alfredo's excellent reputation, is being smeared by a poster on this forum. Finally, I wish to thank all of you who have taken the time to post positive commentsabout CJM flasks, for it is so much easierto sit back and be silent. peter ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] LEDs and more virus stuff
P E Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] queried thusly: Anyone else growing orchids under LEDs? I sure would like to hear from anyone who is. Or to find books or websites with specific info, sources for LED arrays with particular wavelengths, etc. I've been experimenting with some LED Grow-Master lights: http://www.led-grow-master.com/ (Disclaimer: the company sold them to me at distributor's prices to determine their utility in growing orchids.) I have been growing orchids in sterile culture under these light sources, as well as potted orchids. They seem to do the job for growing orchids in flask; however, at this stage, they are largely chemotrophic (living on the salts and sugars in the substrate), and even at very low levels of illumination they do surprisingly well. I should think that LED illumination may one day be competitive with fluorescent lights. Until such time that they can come down to the price of a $20 reflector and 2 x $4 bulbs, they are not a replacement. I wonder about operating costs making up for it. At perhaps 5 watts total (for bulbs and a DC transformer) versus, say, 32 watts of power from one T8 tube (a very rough equivalent), you're spending an extra 27 watts of power. Used for 12 hours a day, that's 324 watt-hours, or about 3.24 cents per day at 10 cents per KWh. Over the course of a year, that works out to $11.83. A commercial LED unit at, say, $100 versus a fluorescent unit at $12 (half of a 2-tube array) would take 7.43 years to pay for itself. That doesn't include the cost of changing bulbs every couple of years, and it's too late at night for me to do the math on that. It may compare more favorably with metal halide, but I've only used MH once or twice, and that was somebody else's money, not mine, so I can't remember the math. LEDs do have the benefit of not having to remove quite so much heat when illuminated. It may sound insignificant, but when I ran a growth chamber with 14 kilowatts of fluorescent illumination, things got pretty far out of parameters when the vent system went down. marianne haeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] spaketh thusly: Hello, someone told me that it is impossible for Bulbophyllum to have virus, is this true? Someone is gravely misinformed. Incidentally- someone asked about paphs and virus. From: http://image.fs.uidaho.edu/vide/descr541.htm Orchid fleck (?) rhabdovirus Host species include: Coelogyne spp., Dendrobium spp. (and hybrids), Miltonia spp., Odontoglossum spp., Oncidium spp. and Paphiopedilum spp. - chlorotic areas often with necrotic centres or rings. See the URL for a full list of susceptible species. The webpage comes with a list of ten scientific references, at least nine of which are from refereed publications. Or, as the doctoral student once screamed at me: My plants are not virused! Oh! You've had them indexed, then. What's indexing? That was the first sign of trouble, right there. The second was when she insisted her plants would have spots if they were infected. Cheers, -AJHicks Chandler, AZ ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] kovachii
I don't quite understand what all the fuss is about. It is apparent to me that Peter, in Canada and vendor for one Peruvian source (CJM), has said he will not sell Pk seedlings until they are compot size. Barbara's source is apparently Jerry Fischer and Chuck Acker, who purchased their Pk flasks from the other Peruvian source (PeruFlora), who, I understand, made them sign an agreement to not sell their seedlings prior to a certain time, whereas CJM made no such requirement. So speaking as an outsider to the discourse below, here are my observations: --I don't see any inuendoes in Peter's postings -- he is up-front in what he says. Peter is not yet selling Pk, but he is taking pre- orders as are the US vendors of PeruFlora plants. --Barbara seems to be saying that no one should be selling Pk flasks yet. Since she is in the US, and I know of only one place that is currently selling them, she must be talking about Piping Rock Orchids. Note that Piping Rock is selling flasks, not Pk seedlings out of flask as yet. --I suspect were it not for the agreement signed, Orchids Limited and Chuck Ackers would also be selling their Pk now. I could, of course, be wrong. --Unlike Barbara, I have no problem with Piping Rock selling their Pk flasks and hybrid seedlings now. I purchased my Pk flask from Piping Rock Orchids, whose Peruvian source is also CJM. The seedlings in my flask were beginning to touch the top of the flask when I put them into compot, where they were doing fine until I made a mistake and sprayed them with Physan. I lost a few, but the others seem to be recovering. (I'm keeping my fingers crossed.) I'm also finding they prefer temperatures cooler than 72-73ºF, which has been difficult for me to achieve this summer. Speaking for myself only, I am happy that I purchased a Pk flask. While it is true that there is little information about the specifics of growing them, I'm glad to be part of the experiment. Time will tell whether any rumors are true about whether any Pk flasks/seedlings are actually not Pk. The US players here, the Fischers, Chuck Ackers, Glen Decker... are all excellent growers. I think they all know that honesty is the best policy. There is too much at stake to be otherwise. Cover-ups usually don't work in the long term. Dot ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] bad boy's orchid [Singapore]
South Korean actor Kwon Sang Woo... playing bad boys in movies... He will have an orchid named after him in a ceremony at the Singapore Botanic Gardens today. Article URL : http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/entertainment/view/228439/1/.html * Regards, VB ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] industry [Philippines]
the world's flower market worth US$97.2 billion. ... Kelvin Neil B. Manubay, president of the Philippine Orchid Society (POS)... of the amount the country gets... a share of about 0.02 per cent annually. ... Manubay noted that 487 foreigners from South Korea, Taiwan and Thailand have visited the Philippines to look at the country's conservation of orchids and its various species. However, the foreign experts, Manubay said, still saw the orchid industry in the Philippines as not being supported enough by the government. The POS president believes that the country will be able to penetrate the world's multibillion-dollar flower industry if the government will support the industry, given that the Philippines has shown its orchids abroad, particularly in Singapore and Japan. Manubay is also asking the government to reconsider the restrictions [???] in the orchid industry and the flower industry as a whole to facilitate its growth. Article URL : http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/entertainment/view/228439/1/.html * Regards, VB ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Orchids Digest, Vol 8, Issue 303
Incidentally- someone asked about paphs and virus. From: http://image.fs.uidaho.edu/vide/descr541.htm Orchid fleck (?) rhabdovirus Host species include: Coelogyne spp., Dendrobium spp. (and hybrids), Miltonia spp., Odontoglossum spp., Oncidium spp. and Paphiopedilum spp. - chlorotic areas often with necrotic centres or rings. See the URL for a full list of susceptible species. The webpage comes with a list of ten scientific references, at least nine of which are from refereed publications. Cheers, -AJHicks Chandler, AZ Hi Aaron. What is with the '(?)' in the name 'Orchid fleck (?) rhabdovirus'? And I see that this is the only virus listed for Paphs inthe site given above. I had 2 Paphs turn up positive on the single well ELISA test for CMV. My assumption is that the web site given above is not very complete, in fact, very incomplete would be a better description. I think that this fact should be pointed out to those who might peruse this page. http://image.fs.uidaho.edu/vide/famly094.htm Do you think maybe I should I have had these plants retested with the double well test? Is there a lab doing ELISA testing for Orchid fleck (?) rhabdovirus? Cynthia, Prescott, AZ ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Philippine Orchid Society / show
show of the Philippine Orchid Society... will run through September 11. ... fire orchid... Renanthera philippinensis... Best-in-Show award... Spathoglottis plicata... Best Philippine Species... Vanda sanderiana var. Immaculata was adjudged the best Waling-waling [common name for Vanda sanderiana]; ... Phalaenopsis hieroglyphica... Best Phalaenopsis; ... Paph. Charlesworthii [c...]... Best Foreign Species. Article URL : http://www.mb.com.ph/AGRI2006090573516.html * Regards, VB ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Phrag besseae in situ
Phil, I've seen P besseae growing in Ecuador at ~6000 ft on a northeast-facing granite cliff with water running continuously down the cliff face. They were also growing at the base of the cliff in amongst the weeds, grasses rocks. Sandy Hardy Savannah, GA Would you like to share my orchid photos? Please be sure to sign the guest book. http://community.webshots.com/user/sthardy ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Phrag besseae photo link
Sorry I forgot to include a link to a photo of P besseae in situ http://travel.webshots.com/photo/343581987/2816448500030551835oovwAN Sandy Hardy Savannah, GA Would you like to share my orchid photos? Please be sure to sign the guest book. http://community.webshots.com/user/sthardy ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
