Re: [OGD] Phragmipediums ex Peter Croezen
Hi All, I am far from being a taxonomic authority. However, there are two online plant databases that are very extensive and, barring any human errors, should reflect the spelling provided by the original authors. Those two databases (IPNI and W3 Tropicos) show the correct spelling to be boissierianum, with three is. This species originally was described in 1854 as Cypripedium boissierianum by Reichenbach in Bonplandia. Rolfe later transferred this species to the genus Paphiopedilum (1894) and then Phragmipedium (1896), however the spelling of the species name remained the same throughout its taxonomic journey. As to the distribution of this species, I have seen large aggregations of P. reticulatum, a closely related species, growing on the slopes above road cuts in Ecuador. These plants were in full sun at the time I saw them, but I was not paying attention to the orientation of the slope. According to Baker Baker, P. boissierianum grows on southwest-facing slopes in the Tingo Maria area of Peru; I do not know the original source for that observation. Ron Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:00:19 -0400 From: icones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OGD] Phragmipediums ex Peter Croezen Oliver, Whenever I have a question on spelling I try to go back to the original publication (if I can) and see how it was originally spelled. Unfortunately, I don't have 'Bonplandia or 'Xenia Orchidaceae' (the two earliest references). So to the things I do have. All the things I checked Stein, Williams, Veitch, Kew Monocot checklist, Henessy, Schweinfurth, and Schlechter, spell it as Peter spelled it. However, Cash spells it 'boissieranum' leaving the 'i' out between the 'r' and 'a' (a rather strange thing!). I found no source that used your spelling, that does not mean there are none, I just did not find any in the references I checked. icones Picture # 3 shows a patch of Phragmipedium boissieranum (note spelling) photographed in sunlight, which is no proof they grow in full sun all day. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Phragmipediums ex Peter Croezen
First, thanks for the kind remarks. However, you say: Picture # 3 shows a patch of Phragmipedium boissieranum (note spelling) photographed in sunlight, which is no proof they grow in full sun all day. Other people who offered advice during the production of the web page (and the web in general, if one is to believe a Google search) seems to prefer P. boisserianum. I freely admit my ignorance; I have no books to hand that address Latin orchids,and so I am in a muddle. So, please, ¿what is the correct species name for this plant? __ Oliver Sparrow +44 (0)20 7736 9716 www.chforum.org ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Phragmipediums ex Peter Croezen
Oliver, Whenever I have a question on spelling I try to go back to the original publication (if I can) and see how it was originally spelled. Unfortunately, I don't have 'Bonplandia or 'Xenia Orchidaceae' (the two earliest references). So to the things I do have. All the things I checked Stein, Williams, Veitch, Kew Monocot checklist, Henessy, Schweinfurth, and Schlechter, spell it as Peter spelled it. However, Cash spells it 'boissieranum' leaving the 'i' out between the 'r' and 'a' (a rather strange thing!). I found no source that used your spelling, that does not mean there are none, I just did not find any in the references I checked. icones Picture # 3 shows a patch of Phragmipedium boissieranum (note spelling) photographed in sunlight, which is no proof they grow in full sun all day. Other people who offered advice during the production of the web page (and the web in general, if one is to believe a Google search) seems to prefer P. boisserianum. I freely admit my ignorance; I have no books to hand that address Latin orchids,and so I am in a muddle. So, please, ¿what is the correct species name for this plant? __ Oliver Sparrow +44 (0)20 7736 9716 www.chforum.org ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Phragmipediums ex Peter Croezen
Oliver, After I sent the below e-mail I continued to do some checking, and did find where David Bennett and Eric Christenson used your spelling in 'Icones Orchidacearum Peruviarum' plate 151. As I know Eric monitors this list, he might be willing to talk with us about the correct spelling of this name. icones Oliver, Whenever I have a question on spelling I try to go back to the original publication (if I can) and see how it was originally spelled. Unfortunately, I don't have 'Bonplandia or 'Xenia Orchidaceae' (the two earliest references). So to the things I do have. All the things I checked Stein, Williams, Veitch, Kew Monocot checklist, Henessy, Schweinfurth, and Schlechter, spell it as Peter spelled it. However, Cash spells it 'boissieranum' leaving the 'i' out between the 'r' and 'a' (a rather strange thing!). I found no source that used your spelling, that does not mean there are none, I just did not find any in the references I checked. icones ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
