Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

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Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

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Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

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Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

--



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Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

--



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Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

--



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Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

--



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Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

--



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-

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Received: from localhost (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1])
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for barak@localhost; Wed, 16 May 2001 06:03:19 -0200
Received: from indigo.cs.bgu.ac.il
by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.3.1)
for barak@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 16 May 2001 06:03:21 -0200 (GMT+2)
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Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

--



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Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

--



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Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

--



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Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

--



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- original unsolicited commercial email follows -
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Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to, 
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list 
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

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Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

--



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Running a Class at Server Startup

2001-05-17 Thread S.Badrinarayanan

Hi

Is it possible to run a class when the orion server initially starts up?

I am looking for something like the following using Weblogic:
weblogic.system.startupClass.initialise=class-name
weblogic.system.startupArgs.initialise=arguments

thx
sb


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Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Bar Orion Barak

Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
buy from you.

If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
just empty.



If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
ask him/her to investigate this matter.

Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
using your sendmail at this moment of time.

Thank you.

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Running a Class at Server Startup

2001-05-17 Thread S.Badrinarayanan

Hi

Is it possible to run a class when the orion server initially starts up?

I am looking for something like the following using Weblogic:
weblogic.system.startupClass.initialise=class-name
weblogic.system.startupArgs.initialise=arguments

thx
sb


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Re: Orin cpu usage ???

2001-05-17 Thread Eddie

Can someone please answer this question !!!???
The problem I am having is the Orion sometimes hangs, it uses a lot of cpu
and I can't figure out why, so I need some advices on how I can monitor
this.

Please... ??

Eddie

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From: Eddie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:42 AM
Subject: Orin cpu usage ???


 Can someone please tell me how to monitor the cpu usage of Orion in detail
 per component/item/application ?

 When I use orionconsole I can only view the overall memory usage of all
 application, but that's it. With top I see it is using a lot of cpu
time:
 about 50 percent.
 But I want more information, how do I get that ??

 Eddie







Re: Counter.jar

2001-05-17 Thread Eddie



I saw it comming by in the newsgroup. Look in the 
mailarchive of Orion.

Eddie

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Lou 
  Farho 
  To: Orion-Interest 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:42 
  PM
  Subject: Counter.jar
  
  How can I get the 
  source for counter.jar?
  
  Thanks!


Re: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS

2001-05-17 Thread venkat


Hi Vidur,
What is your message size and what is your jdk version? if you are using
any of pre jdk-1.3 (to start orion server) and if your message size is more
than 64K, you will have similar problem.
--venkat



   
 
Vidur Dhanda   
 
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05/17/01 12:18 PM  
 
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I have jndi.properties on the classpath.  And when I examine the Context
that is used for the lookup, it has the appropriate values.  There's
something else (hopefully, very basic) that is going on here.  Could
someone try running the code against  their installation?

Thanks,
Vidur
Kesav Kumar wrote: If you write a separate client app to access JMS
messages you need to have jndi.properties file or you need to provide the
properties to the InitialContext.  Here aret the steps to write a separate
client app which runs outside the orion environment. 1) In your jms.xml
don't have any connection factory just declare your topics/queues 2) Either
have jndi.properties in the class path with the following contents
java.naming.factory.initial=com.evermind.server.ApplicationClientInitialContextFactory

    java.naming.provider.url=ormi://localhost/
    java.naming.security.principal=admin
    java.naming.security.credentials=admin Or create a Hashatble with
the above key, values and pass to the InitialContext constructor. 3) If you
are using orion1.4.8 which creating connection from factory pass
username/password as a paramters to
factory.createXXXConnection(username, password).  I hope this will work.
- Original Message -
From: Vidur Dhanda
To: Kesav Kumar
Cc: 'Orion-Interest'
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS
 Hi Kesav,

Thanks for the tip. I tried that with both 1.4.5 and 1.4.8.  After removing
the connection factory line, in 1.4.5, the client hangs on
TopicConnection.createSubscriber().  If I give the createTopicConnection a
username and password, then the server throws a NPE and the client hangs at
createTopicConnection().

The same problem persists in 1.4.8.

I'm sure I'm doing something really stupid.  However, I have no idea how to
solve it.  I'm attaching some code in the hope that someone can help me out
of this mess.  I've tried it against 1.4.5 and 1.4.8.  And I am really
desperate!

Thanks,
Vidur

Kesav Kumar wrote:

Just remove the connectionfactory line from your jms.xml.

Kesav Kumar
Software Engineer
Voquette, Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: Vidur Dhanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS

Please help!  I broke something in my code and can't figure it out.  On
the client, I'm consistently getting:
java.lang.NullPointerException
 at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:329)
 at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:306)
 at com.evermind.server.jms.cj.init(JAX)
 at com.evermind.server.jms.b8.start(JAX)
 at
com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getConnection(NotificationBase.java:89)


 at
com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getSession(NotificationBase.java:101)


 at
com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getSubscriber(NotificationBase.java:44)



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SV: Running a Class at Server Startup

2001-05-17 Thread Magnus Rydin
Title: SV: Running a Class at Server Startup





You could autostart a Servlet that kicks another class?


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 Från: S.Badrinarayanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Skickat: den 17 maj 2001 00:59
 Till: Orion-Interest
 Ämne: Running a Class at Server Startup
 
 
 Hi
 
 Is it possible to run a class when the orion server initially 
 starts up?
 
 I am looking for something like the following using Weblogic:
 weblogic.system.startupClass.initialise=class-name
 weblogic.system.startupArgs.initialise=arguments
 
 thx
 sb
 
 
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SV: Orin cpu usage ???

2001-05-17 Thread Magnus Rydin
Title: SV: Orin cpu usage ???





The most normal CPU situation is bad DB usage.
I would check that area first, using whatever tools you have available to analyze your DB.
WR


 -Ursprungligt meddelande-
 Från: Eddie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Skickat: den 17 maj 2001 01:11
 Till: Orion-Interest
 Ämne: Re: Orin cpu usage ???
 
 
 Can someone please answer this question !!!???
 The problem I am having is the Orion sometimes hangs, it uses 
 a lot of cpu
 and I can't figure out why, so I need some advices on how I 
 can monitor
 this.
 
 Please... ??
 
 Eddie
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Eddie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:42 AM
 Subject: Orin cpu usage ???
 
 
  Can someone please tell me how to monitor the cpu usage of 
 Orion in detail
  per component/item/application ?
 
  When I use orionconsole I can only view the overall memory 
 usage of all
  application, but that's it. With top I see it is using a 
 lot of cpu
 time:
  about 50 percent.
  But I want more information, how do I get that ??
 
  Eddie
 
 
 
 





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=BE=CB=B8=B2 kongbok@nave= infected with ExceedinglyNested virus.
The file is currently Removed.  The message, Spam alert: unsolicited
commercial e-mail, was
sent from Bar Orion Barak  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at CHANCERY/CHANCERY/EXCHANGE.




RE: Orin cpu usage ???

2001-05-17 Thread Marcel Schutte

Hi Eddie,

You could try to use the JVM profiler (startup arguments -Xprof
and -Xrunhprof). This is ofcourse not orion specific, but you can give it a
try. You can also try leaving out parts of your application until you find
the bit that's causing your problem.

Marcel

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eddie
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:11 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Re: Orin cpu usage ???


 Can someone please answer this question !!!???
 The problem I am having is the Orion sometimes hangs, it uses
 a lot of cpu
 and I can't figure out why, so I need some advices on how I
 can monitor
 this.

 Please... ??

 Eddie

 - Original Message -
 From: Eddie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:42 AM
 Subject: Orin cpu usage ???


  Can someone please tell me how to monitor the cpu usage of
 Orion in detail
  per component/item/application ?
 
  When I use orionconsole I can only view the overall memory
 usage of all
  application, but that's it. With top I see it is using a
 lot of cpu
 time:
  about 50 percent.
  But I want more information, how do I get that ??
 
  Eddie
 
 
 






RE: Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Randahl Fink Isaksen

Hmmm... it makes you wonder if [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] work for BEA - they sure are doing a great job of
ruining the Orion user mailing list. I wonder how many more people are going
to unsubscribe today...

R.

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Barak
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jmschat errors...confused ?? (on orion 1.4.7)

2001-05-17 Thread Eddie

I am trying to mak the jmschat and coffemaker to work, but have the same
problems that other people had in the past. However, can someone please tell
me what you did to solve it, as I can't find a concrete solution the
mailarchive ?
The problems I have:
When I just run jmschat.jar (the coffeemaker gives the same problems) as
descrbed in jmsdemo-readme.txt, I get the following error:
-
[program@ojo jms]# java -Djava.naming.security.credentials=OriAdm -jar
jmschat.jar
Error looking up objects: Error reading application-client descriptor: Error
creating context: jms/TopicConnectionFactory not found
---
If I add the TopicFactory to my jms.xml I get the following error:
-
[program@ojo jms]# java -Djava.naming.security.credentials=OriAdm -jar
jmschat.jar
Exception in thread main java.lang.NullPointerException
at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:329)
at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:306)
at com.evermind.server.jms.ck.init(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.jms.b9.start(JAX)
at JMSChat.run(JMSChat.java:61)
at JMSChat.main(JMSChat.java:29)


How do I solve this ???
Eddie





Re: Orin cpu usage ???

2001-05-17 Thread Armin Michel

What OS and JVM do you use?


 Can someone please answer this question !!!???
 The problem I am having is the Orion sometimes hangs, it uses a lot of cpu
 and I can't figure out why, so I need some advices on how I can monitor
 this.

 Please... ??

 Eddie

 - Original Message -
 From: Eddie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:42 AM
 Subject: Orin cpu usage ???

  Can someone please tell me how to monitor the cpu usage of Orion in
  detail per component/item/application ?
 
  When I use orionconsole I can only view the overall memory usage of all
  application, but that's it. With top I see it is using a lot of cpu

 time:
  about 50 percent.
  But I want more information, how do I get that ??
 
  Eddie




Re: Running a Class at Server Startup

2001-05-17 Thread Dragonchick

Hi,
You can use servlet for start-up task. See web.xml.html load-on-startup tag
description.

- Original Message -
From: S.Badrinarayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:58 AM
Subject: Running a Class at Server Startup


 Hi

 Is it possible to run a class when the orion server initially starts up?

 I am looking for something like the following using Weblogic:
 weblogic.system.startupClass.initialise=class-name
 weblogic.system.startupArgs.initialise=arguments

 thx
 sb


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Antigen for Exchange found 3D=B8=DE=C0=CF =C0=FC=BC=DB =BD=C7=C6=D0
=BE=CB=B8=B2 kongbok@nave= infected with ExceedinglyNested virus.
The file is currently Removed.  The message, Spam alert: unsolicited
commercial e-mail, was
sent from Bar Orion Barak  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at Icon Medialab AB/ICONSE/SESTOMSX02.




Re: Orin cpu usage ???

2001-05-17 Thread Eddie
Title: SV: Orin cpu usage ???



Magnus,

What kind of "bad DB usage" must I think about ? 

Some examples please ?
And what kind of tools would I use to analyse the 
db usage ? I normaly check the log file, 
but I am sure there are better ways to do that, not 
? (I am using postgres)
Ed

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Magnus 
  Rydin 
  To: Orion-Interest 
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:07 
  AM
  Subject: SV: Orin cpu usage ???
  
  The most normal CPU situation is bad DB usage. 
  I would check that area first, using whatever tools you have 
  available to analyze your DB. WR 
   -Ursprungligt meddelande-  Från: Eddie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Skickat: den 17 maj 2001 01:11  Till: Orion-Interest  Ämne: Re: Orin 
  cpu usage ???   
   Can someone please answer this question 
  !!!???  The problem I am having is the Orion 
  sometimes hangs, it uses  a lot of cpu 
   and I can't figure out why, so I need some advices on 
  how I  can monitor  
  this.   Please... 
  ??   Eddie 
- Original Message 
  -  From: Eddie 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: Orion-Interest 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent: 
  Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:42 AM  Subject: Orin 
  cpu usage ???   
Can someone please tell me how to monitor 
  the cpu usage of  Orion in detail   per component/item/application ?  
 When I use orionconsole I can only view 
  the overall memory  usage of all   application, but that's it. With "top" I see it is using a 
   lot of cpu  
  time:   about 50 percent.   But I want more information, how do I get that ?? 
  Eddie 
 



RE: Running a Class at Server Startup

2001-05-17 Thread Randahl Fink Isaksen
Title: SV: Running a Class at Server Startup



Well, 
Magnus, that is a constructive suggestion, but what if he wanted to do something 
which a servlet is restricted from doing? Is there a way to simply startup a 
regular java application allong with Orion?


Randahl

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magnus 
  RydinSent: 17. maj 2001 11:07To: 
  Orion-InterestSubject: SV: Running a Class at Server 
  Startup
  You could autostart a Servlet that kicks another class? 
  
   -Ursprungligt meddelande-  Från: S.Badrinarayanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Skickat: den 17 maj 2001 00:59  Till: Orion-Interest  Ämne: Running a 
  Class at Server StartupHi  
   Is it possible to run a class when the orion 
  server initially  starts up?   I am looking for something like the 
  following using Weblogic:  
  weblogic.system.startupClass.initialise=class-name  weblogic.system.startupArgs.initialise=arguments 
thx  sb   
   Chequemail.com - a free web based e-mail service 
  that also pays!!!  http://www.chequemail.com  
  


Re: Orin cpu usage ???

2001-05-17 Thread Eddie

Thanks Marcel,

Indeed I get more information when I start with -Xprof, however when I use
the -Xrunhprof I get the following error (the total command is also
included):

Funny !!!,
Eddie
--
#
# HotSpot Virtual Machine Error, Internal Error
# Please report this error at
# http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi
#
# Error ID: 4D555445583F4C494E55580E4350500104
#
# Problematic Thread: prio=1 tid=0x804dcd8 nid=0x4c99 runnable
#
--
Start command:
---
su -l program --command='/usr/local/java/bin/java -Xrunhprof -jar
/opt/Orion/orion.jar -config /opt/Orion/config/server.xml 
/opt/Orion/log/out.log 21 



- Original Message -
From: Marcel Schutte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:48 AM
Subject: RE: Orin cpu usage ???


 Hi Eddie,

 You could try to use the JVM profiler (startup arguments -Xprof
 and -Xrunhprof). This is ofcourse not orion specific, but you can give it
a
 try. You can also try leaving out parts of your application until you find
 the bit that's causing your problem.

 Marcel

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eddie
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:11 AM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: Re: Orin cpu usage ???
 
 
  Can someone please answer this question !!!???
  The problem I am having is the Orion sometimes hangs, it uses
  a lot of cpu
  and I can't figure out why, so I need some advices on how I
  can monitor
  this.
 
  Please... ??
 
  Eddie
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Eddie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:42 AM
  Subject: Orin cpu usage ???
 
 
   Can someone please tell me how to monitor the cpu usage of
  Orion in detail
   per component/item/application ?
  
   When I use orionconsole I can only view the overall memory
  usage of all
   application, but that's it. With top I see it is using a
  lot of cpu
  time:
   about 50 percent.
   But I want more information, how do I get that ??
  
   Eddie
  
  
  
 







RE: Running a Class at Server Startup

2001-05-17 Thread Bruno Baloi

Yeah, you can,

Adnd on a second note, you can configure your java module that is
defined to start autmatically in orion-application.xml (under
application-deployments and your Application). Then in that very
module's META-INF's directory under your Applciation's tree you can adsd
the class you want Orion to start up in the MANIFEST.MF file.


In the file you modifythe first 3 lines in the following manner:

Manifest-Version:1.0
Main-Class:com.your-pkg.YourApp
Name: Your Application


Have fun !!!

-Original Message-
From:   Magnus Rydin
Sent:   Thu 5/17/2001 5:07 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Cc: 
Subject:SV: Running a Class at Server Startup

You could autostart a Servlet that kicks another class?

 -Ursprungligt meddelande-
 Från: S.Badrinarayanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Skickat: den 17 maj 2001 00:59
 Till: Orion-Interest
 Ämne: Running a Class at Server Startup
 
 
 Hi
 
 Is it possible to run a class when the orion server initially 
 starts up?
 
 I am looking for something like the following using Weblogic:
 weblogic.system.startupClass.initialise=class-name
 weblogic.system.startupArgs.initialise=arguments
 
 thx
 sb
 
 
 Chequemail.com - a free web based e-mail service that also pays!!!
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Re: Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Johan Fredriksson

I have successfully added this rule to my outlook...

Apply this rule after the message arrives

Where the From line contains '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Delete it



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From: Randahl Fink Isaksen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail


 Hmmm... it makes you wonder if [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
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 ruining the Orion user mailing list. I wonder how many more people are
going
 to unsubscribe today...

 R.

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bar Orion
 Barak
 Sent: 17. maj 2001 12:44
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail


 Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
 I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
 unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
 reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
 and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

 If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
 services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
 buy from you.

 If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
 REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
 just empty.

 

 If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
 this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
 They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
 you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
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 this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
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 mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
 faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
 you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
 postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
 message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
 this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
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SV: Running a Class at Server Startup

2001-05-17 Thread Magnus Rydin
Title: SV: Running a Class at Server Startup



Well, 
Randahl, he could always turn it into a application-client.
Or he 
could use a Servlet to start a single instance of a regular java 
application.
Dont 
be so sour when I only try to help.

  -Ursprungligt meddelande-Från: Randahl Fink Isaksen 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Skickat: den 17 maj 2001 
  05:01Till: Orion-InterestÄmne: RE: Running a Class at 
  Server Startup
  Well, Magnus, that is a constructive suggestion, but 
  what if he wanted to do something which a servlet is restricted from doing? Is 
  there a way to simply startup a regular java application allong with 
  Orion?
  
  
  Randahl
  
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magnus 
RydinSent: 17. maj 2001 11:07To: 
Orion-InterestSubject: SV: Running a Class at Server 
Startup
You could autostart a Servlet that kicks another 
class? 
 -Ursprungligt meddelande-  Från: S.Badrinarayanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Skickat: den 17 maj 2001 00:59  Till: Orion-Interest  Ämne: Running 
a Class at Server StartupHi  
 Is it possible to run a class when the orion 
server initially  starts up?   I am looking for something like the 
following using Weblogic:  
weblogic.system.startupClass.initialise=class-name  weblogic.system.startupArgs.initialise=arguments 
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New OrionSupport article: Create custom user-authentication

2001-05-17 Thread Joe Walnes

Ok, (finally) got an article up on OrionSupport about implementing a custom 
UserManager that authenticates user from your own database (Relational DB, 
XML, LDAP, NT Domains, proprietary app, etc).

Provides you with a SimpleUserManager allowing you to hook it up to your 
own system by just implementing 3 methods.

http://uk.orionsupport.com/articles/usermanager.html

Hope it's useful.

-Joe Walnes





RE: Running a Class at Server Startup

2001-05-17 Thread Jason Smith

In your orion-application.xml just add something like:

client-module path=init/Initializer.jar auto-start=true user=bob
arguments
argument value=somedirectory/init-script.xml/
/arguments
/client-module

This will let cause Orion to autostart the jar.  Note that you must have the
jar contain the proper manifest information so it is runnable (you must
specify the Main-Class: in the manifest).

-jason


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Randahl Fink
Isaksen
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:01 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Running a Class at Server Startup


Well, Magnus, that is a constructive suggestion, but what if he wanted to do
something which a servlet is restricted from doing? Is there a way to simply
startup a regular java application allong with Orion?


Randahl
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magnus Rydin
Sent: 17. maj 2001 11:07
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: SV: Running a Class at Server Startup


You could autostart a Servlet that kicks another class?
 -Ursprungligt meddelande-
 Från: S.Badrinarayanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Skickat: den 17 maj 2001 00:59
 Till: Orion-Interest
 Ämne: Running a Class at Server Startup


 Hi

 Is it possible to run a class when the orion server initially
 starts up?

 I am looking for something like the following using Weblogic:
 weblogic.system.startupClass.initialise=class-name
 weblogic.system.startupArgs.initialise=arguments

 thx
 sb


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2001-05-17 Thread Sergi Baila

I've tried to unsubscribe from the www.orionserver.com twice without
success!

Perhaps there's a problem, or the server is highly overloaded by the
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Is there any administrator here that can unsubscribe me? (and those guys
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deploying additional files

2001-05-17 Thread Yves Bossel

Hello,

I am trying to pack my application in as independently as possible of the
deployment configuration (i.e. paths).
data-sources.xml and principals.xml get packed into the application's
META-INF.
However, unlike orion-application.xml, data-sources.xml does not get copied
into orion/application-deployments/my-app.

Is there a deployment-path-independent way to pack such files and to specify
in their location in the deployment descriptors ?
Is there a way to get Orion deploy additional files in the META-INF (Orion
seems to look first there for needed deployment files)?


My goal is to have to modify the least possible number of configuration
files at deployment.


Thanks

 Yves Bossel L.
 Programmer
 www.neoris.com - Business Technology Partners
 Edificio Birmann 24, Sanchez Fontecilla 310, piso 7 (esq. Callao)
 Las Condes, Santiago; CHILE
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RE: Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Flemming Seerup

Nice, but why not just use the built-in junkmail filter?  :-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Johan
Fredriksson
Sent: 17. maj 2001 14:51
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail


I have successfully added this rule to my outlook...

Apply this rule after the message arrives

Where the From line contains '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Delete it



So I'm not unsubscribing.



- Original Message -

From: Randahl Fink Isaksen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail


 Hmmm... it makes you wonder if [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] work for BEA - they sure are doing a great job of
 ruining the Orion user mailing list. I wonder how many more people are
going
 to unsubscribe today...

 R.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bar Orion
 Barak
 Sent: 17. maj 2001 12:44
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail


 Recently, I have received an Unsolicited Commercial E-mail from you.
 I do not like UCE's and I would like to inform you that sending
 unsolicited messages to someone while he or she may have to pay for
 reading your message may be illegal.  Anyway, it is highly annoying
 and not welcome by anyone.  It is rude, after all.

 If you think that this is a good way to advertise your products or
 services you are mistaken.  Spamming will only make people hate you, not
 buy from you.

 If you have any list of people you send unsolicited commercial emails to,
 REMOVE me from such list immediately.  I suggest that you make this list
 just empty.

 

 If you are not an administrator of any site and still have received
 this message then your email address is being abused by some spammer.
 They fake your address in From: or Reply-To: header.  In this case,
 you might want to show this message to your system administrator, and
 ask him/her to investigate this matter.

 Note to the postmaster(s): I append the text of UCE in question to
 this message; I would like to hear from you about action(s) taken.
 This message has been sent to postmasters at the host that is
 mentioned as original sender's host (I do realize that it may be
 faked, but I think that if your domain name is being abused this way
 you might want to learn about it, and take actions) and to the
 postmaster whose host was used as mail relay for this message.  If
 message was sent not by your user, could you please compare time when
 this message was sent (use time in Received: field of the envelope
 rather than Date: field) with your sendmail logs and see what host was
 using your sendmail at this moment of time.

 Thank you.

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RE: Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail

2001-05-17 Thread Larry Velez
Title: RE: Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail






Why can't the list administrator unsubscribe these people in order to stop the madness?! A nice note to them explaining why they were unsubscribed should be fine.

Larry


-Original Message-
From: Randahl Fink Isaksen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 6:25 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Spam alert: unsolicited commercial e-mail



Hmmm... it makes you wonder if [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] work for BEA - they sure are doing a great job of
ruining the Orion user mailing list. I wonder how many more people are going
to unsubscribe today...


R.





Re: Running a Class at Server Startup

2001-05-17 Thread Florin Manolache

Or you can use an application client component and set the autostart=true
(see orion-application-client.xml).

Florin

- Original Message -
From: S.Badrinarayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:59 AM
Subject: Running a Class at Server Startup


 Hi

 Is it possible to run a class when the orion server initially starts up?

 I am looking for something like the following using Weblogic:
 weblogic.system.startupClass.initialise=class-name
 weblogic.system.startupArgs.initialise=arguments

 thx
 sb


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RE: Orin cpu usage ???

2001-05-17 Thread cybermaster

I have seen other instances where profiling doesn't work with the HotSpot
JVM - use the Classic, and it (may) work.

--peter

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eddie
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 6:04 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Orin cpu usage ???

Thanks Marcel,

Indeed I get more information when I start with -Xprof, however when I use
the -Xrunhprof I get the following error (the total command is also
included):

Funny !!!,
Eddie
--
#
# HotSpot Virtual Machine Error, Internal Error
# Please report this error at
# http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi
#
# Error ID: 4D555445583F4C494E55580E4350500104
#
# Problematic Thread: prio=1 tid=0x804dcd8 nid=0x4c99 runnable
#
--
Start command:
---
su -l program --command='/usr/local/java/bin/java -Xrunhprof -jar
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/opt/Orion/log/out.log 21 



- Original Message -
From: Marcel Schutte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:48 AM
Subject: RE: Orin cpu usage ???


 Hi Eddie,

 You could try to use the JVM profiler (startup arguments -Xprof
 and -Xrunhprof). This is ofcourse not orion specific, but you can give it
a
 try. You can also try leaving out parts of your application until you find
 the bit that's causing your problem.

 Marcel

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eddie
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:11 AM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: Re: Orin cpu usage ???
 
 
  Can someone please answer this question !!!???
  The problem I am having is the Orion sometimes hangs, it uses
  a lot of cpu
  and I can't figure out why, so I need some advices on how I
  can monitor
  this.
 
  Please... ??
 
  Eddie
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Eddie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:42 AM
  Subject: Orin cpu usage ???
 
 
   Can someone please tell me how to monitor the cpu usage of
  Orion in detail
   per component/item/application ?
  
   When I use orionconsole I can only view the overall memory
  usage of all
   application, but that's it. With top I see it is using a
  lot of cpu
  time:
   about 50 percent.
   But I want more information, how do I get that ??
  
   Eddie
  
  
  
 








RE: Access Denied on Linux, but NT/w2k fine

2001-05-17 Thread elephantwalker



1. make sure that umask is 022 or 007
2. sometimes directories from win have character issues (lowercase shown,
but really they are uppercase).
3. the directories are x? sometimes this is an issue between win and linux
is you use zip to unzip the directory.
4. reread the running on unix on www.orionsupport.com
5. bury you windows cd's, and convert TOTALLY to linux. I suggest a pagan
ritual around the summer solstice. The linux gods will smile on you.

the elephantwalker

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Theo van
Niekerk
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:50 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Access Denied on Linux, but NT/w2k fine


Hi

We have developed a complete app on windows 2000.
We've setup access permissions only for the WEB tier.
Everything works very well and as expected on the NT and Windows 2000
machines.

The problem is when running it on Linux.
It refuses to serve some pages giving either error 404 or error 500.
We're running orion as root listening on port 80.
All .jsp's are world readable and belongs to one user.
The exact same behaviour is experienced when running orion on port 8080 as
this user the jsp's belong to.

Fortunately the client has chosen w2k machines for production.
I would like to stick to GNU/Linux if possible.

Any ideas?


--
Cheers
Theo





RE: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS

2001-05-17 Thread Kesav Kumar



Send me your code I 
will give a try.

Kesav Kumar Software Engineer Voquette, Inc. 650 356 3740 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
http://www.voquette.com Voquette...Delivering Sound Information 


  -Original Message-From: Vidur Dhanda [mailto:[Kesav 
  Kumar]]Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:18 
  PMTo: Orion-InterestCc: 
  'Orion-Interest'Subject: Re: HELP! 1.4.5 and 
  JMSI have jndi.properties on the classpath. And 
  when I examine the Context that is used for the lookup, it has the appropriate 
  values. There's something else (hopefully, very basic) that is going on 
  here. Could someone try running the code against their 
  installation? 
  Thanks, Vidur Kesav Kumar wrote: 
  

If you write a separate client app to access 
JMS messages you need to have jndi.properties file or you need to provide 
the properties to the InitialContext. Here aret the steps to write a 
separate client app which runs outside the orion 
environment.1) In your 
jms.xml don't have any connection factory just declare your 
topics/queues2) Either 
have jndi.properties in the class path with the following 
contents 
java.naming.factory.initial=com.evermind.server.ApplicationClientInitialContextFactory 
 
java.naming.provider.url=ormi://localhost/  
java.naming.security.principal=admin  
java.naming.security.credentials=admin Or create a Hashatble with the 
above key, values and pass to the InitialContext 
constructor.3) If you are 
using orion1.4.8 which creating connection from factory pass 
username/password as a paramters to factory.createXXXConnection(username, 
password).I hope 
this will work. 

  - Original Message -
  From: 
  Vidur Dhanda
  To: Kesav Kumar
  Cc: 'Orion-Interest'
  Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 7:16 
  PM
  Subject: Re: HELP! 1.4.5 and 
  JMSHi Kesav, 
  Thanks for the tip. I tried that with both 1.4.5 and 1.4.8. After 
  removing the connection factory line, in 1.4.5, the client hangs on 
  TopicConnection.createSubscriber(). If I give the 
  createTopicConnection a username and password, then the server throws a 
  NPE and the client hangs at createTopicConnection(). 
  The same problem persists in 1.4.8. 
  I'm sure I'm doing something really stupid. However, I have no 
  idea how to solve it. I'm attaching some code in the hope that 
  someone can help me out of this mess. I've tried it against 1.4.5 
  and 1.4.8. And I am really desperate! 
  Thanks, Vidur 
  Kesav Kumar wrote: 
   
Just remove the connectionfactory line from your 
jms.xml. 
Kesav Kumar Software 
Engineer Voquette, Inc. 650 356 3740 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
http://www.voquette.com 
Voquette...Delivering Sound Information 
-Original Message- From: Vidur Dhanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:31 AM 
To: Orion-Interest Subject: 
HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS 
Please help! I broke something in my code and 
can't figure it out. On the client, I'm 
consistently getting: java.lang.NullPointerException at 
java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:329) 
at 
java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:306) 
at 
com.evermind.server.jms.cj.init(JAX) at com.evermind.server.jms.b8.start(JAX) at com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getConnection(NotificationBase.java:89) 

at com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getSession(NotificationBase.java:101) 

at com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getSubscriber(NotificationBase.java:44) 

Auto-started clients can send/receive messages without 
trouble. 
getConnection() calls createTopicConnection() and then 
start(). If I use, createConnection (usr, pwd), 
then the system hangs. 
In jms.xml, I have: jms-server host="192.168.10.2" port="9127" 
topic-connection-factory 
host="192.168.10.2"  
location="jms/notificationFactory" port="9127" / topic name="DWItem Notification" 
location="jms/dwItemNotification" /topic 
Any ideas? I'm on version 1.4.5. 1.4.8 has 
a regression on bug 188 that is a show stopper 
for us. And in fact, this code worked uptil yesterday when I made changes to try and get 1.4.8 to 
work. 
TIA, Vidur 
PS. If possible, please also cc me 
directly. I'm really desperate. -- 
Vidur Dhanda Active 
Solutions tel: 617/566-1252 cell: 617/821-7115 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.active-solutions-inc.com 



Problem with Database transactions on EJB..

2001-05-17 Thread sub k

Hi,
I am unable to do transactions on EJB without Commit
statement. This is what I have done, Do I have to do
anything other than this?

I am using the class
com.evermind.sql.DriverManagerDataSource  in the
data-sources.xml and I mentioned location,
ejb-location, xa-location, and I am getting the
DataSource in the java file using ejb-location. In my
ejb-jar file I wrote trans-attribute as Required.
When I am doing multiple transactions in one method, I
have to explictly call commit(), otherwise it is not
working?
I think it is doing pooling too.

Thanks
Subrah

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Sharing session between all the modules of an application

2001-05-17 Thread Ismael

When you define an EAR application that contains several web modules (WAR 
files), should not be the session shared between all the modules to the 
application?.
  I think that this is one of the advantages of having several modules on 
the same application.

I have tried it with two webapps but they do not share the session. They 
are defined on the same application, but the session is not shared.
What should I do to have the session object shared between all the modules 
of the application ?

Ismael Blesa Part wrote:

   But are you able to share the session between this two applications?

   Is it possible to use the same root for the two applications?

   Simon Knott wrote:

Yes you can.  You set up your two web modules in your application.xml (as
you have done), and then put two entries in the default-web-app.xml as so:
   
web-app application=applicationName name=firstwebappname
root=/firstwebapproot /
web-app application=applicationName name=secondwebappname
root=/secondwebapproot /
   
This works for us, although we can't access classes that reside within one
web application's web-inf from the other web application.
   
Hope that helps,
Simon
   
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-Original Message-
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Sent: 26 April 2001 00:45
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: 2 web apps in an ear
   
Can I deploy an ear that contains 2 .war files or 2 web apps?  I was
able to add a 2nd web module within my application.xml.  The war expands
correctly.  The second war is a servlet.  I cannot seem to access this
servlet.
When I put a second entry in my default-web-site.xml then the first does
not work.  I am sure I am just missing a config item.
thanx ahead of time,
mike
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[1.4.8] WebContainer bug

2001-05-17 Thread Steffen Stundzig

Hi,

I've installed Cocoon as servlet inside of the global application. 
Works fine and fast with orion.

The servlet generates JavaCode that would be compiled and loaded at runtime.
But now I've the problem, that some classes could not be found, because
the orion-classloader searches only in ORION_HOME/lib and not in the servlets
war archive in WEB-INF/lib.

How can I configure orion to look also in the WEB-INF/lib dir, to search
for classes, that are only needed by the deployed war?

Regards
Steffen...

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Re: Orin cpu usage ???

2001-05-17 Thread Eddie

RedHat 7.0, kernel:  2.2.16-22,
jdk1.3,
j2sdk221.2

Eddie
- Original Message -
From: Armin Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Orin cpu usage ???


 What OS and JVM do you use?


  Can someone please answer this question !!!???
  The problem I am having is the Orion sometimes hangs, it uses a lot of
cpu
  and I can't figure out why, so I need some advices on how I can monitor
  this.
 
  Please... ??
 
  Eddie
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Eddie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:42 AM
  Subject: Orin cpu usage ???
 
   Can someone please tell me how to monitor the cpu usage of Orion in
   detail per component/item/application ?
  
   When I use orionconsole I can only view the overall memory usage of
all
   application, but that's it. With top I see it is using a lot of cpu
 
  time:
   about 50 percent.
   But I want more information, how do I get that ??
  
   Eddie






JNDI-Problem: Unknown command: 7 (orion1.4.7)

2001-05-17 Thread Armin Michel

I wrote an J2EE-client that uses EJB via JNDI. Everything worked just fine.

Then I rearranged my ejb-files into sub-packages and updated all of my DDs to 
reflect that change. (Of course I also corrected the imports and package 
statements in the java-files.)
This new version compiles and deploys without errors or warnings.
But when I start my client now (for the first time), I get the following 
exception on client-side:

 [java] javax.naming.NamingException: Error reading application-client 
descriptor: Error looking up EJBHome: Disconnected: Unknown command: 7

Starting the client for the second time leads to another error. This 
exception is thrown on server-side:

javax.naming.NameNotFoundException: java:comp/env/ejb/TestProject not found   

I checked with orionconsole that the jndi-entries are correct.

So is this a bug of orion-server? Bug #156 also refers to Unkown command: 
7, maybe it's the same failure?

The only solution I can think of (yet) is to undo all re-packagings and use 
the old and plain version of my project, but this is getting really unhandy.

Does anyone know how to work around this problem or even how to solve it?

Yours

Armin Michel




RE: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS

2001-05-17 Thread Kesav Kumar
Title: RE: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS





I just tried by sending 135K text message with JMS it works fine for me.


Kesav Kumar
Software Engineer
Voquette, Inc.
650 356 3740
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.voquette.com
Voquette...Delivering Sound Information



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 1:22 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS




Hi Vidur,
What is your message size and what is your jdk version? if you are using
any of pre jdk-1.3 (to start orion server) and if your message size is more
than 64K, you will have similar problem.
--venkat




 

 Vidur Dhanda 

 vdhanda@active-solutions- To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 inc.com cc: 'Orion-Interest' [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Sent by: Subject: Re: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS 

 owner-orion-interest@orion 

 server.com 

 

 

 05/17/01 12:18 PM 

 Please respond to 

 Orion-Interest 

 

 




I have jndi.properties on the classpath.  And when I examine the Context
that is used for the lookup, it has the appropriate values.  There's
something else (hopefully, very basic) that is going on here.  Could
someone try running the code against  their installation?


Thanks,
Vidur
Kesav Kumar wrote: If you write a separate client app to access JMS
messages you need to have jndi.properties file or you need to provide the
properties to the InitialContext.  Here aret the steps to write a separate
client app which runs outside the orion environment. 1) In your jms.xml
don't have any connection factory just declare your topics/queues 2) Either
have jndi.properties in the class path with the following contents
java.naming.factory.initial=com.evermind.server.ApplicationClientInitialContextFactory


    java.naming.provider.url=ormi://localhost/
    java.naming.security.principal=admin
    java.naming.security.credentials=admin Or create a Hashatble with
the above key, values and pass to the InitialContext constructor. 3) If you
are using orion1.4.8 which creating connection from factory pass
username/password as a paramters to
factory.createXXXConnection(username, password).  I hope this will work.
- Original Message -
From: Vidur Dhanda
To: Kesav Kumar
Cc: 'Orion-Interest'
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS
 Hi Kesav,


Thanks for the tip. I tried that with both 1.4.5 and 1.4.8.  After removing
the connection factory line, in 1.4.5, the client hangs on
TopicConnection.createSubscriber().  If I give the createTopicConnection a
username and password, then the server throws a NPE and the client hangs at
createTopicConnection().


The same problem persists in 1.4.8.


I'm sure I'm doing something really stupid.  However, I have no idea how to
solve it.  I'm attaching some code in the hope that someone can help me out
of this mess.  I've tried it against 1.4.5 and 1.4.8.  And I am really
desperate!


Thanks,
Vidur


Kesav Kumar wrote:


Just remove the connectionfactory line from your jms.xml.


Kesav Kumar
Software Engineer
Voquette, Inc.
650 356 3740
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.voquette.com
Voquette...Delivering Sound Information


-Original Message-
From: Vidur Dhanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS


Please help!  I broke something in my code and can't figure it out.  On
the client, I'm consistently getting:
java.lang.NullPointerException
 at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:329)
 at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:306)
 at com.evermind.server.jms.cj.init(JAX)
 at com.evermind.server.jms.b8.start(JAX)
 at
com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getConnection(NotificationBase.java:89)



 at
com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getSession(NotificationBase.java:101)



 at
com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getSubscriber(NotificationBase.java:44)



Auto-started clients can send/receive messages without trouble.


getConnection() calls createTopicConnection() and then start().
If I use, createConnection (usr, pwd), then the system hangs.


In jms.xml, I have:
jms-server host=192.168.10.2 port=9127
 topic-connection-factory host=192.168.10.2
  location=jms/notificationFactory port=9127 /
 topic name=DWItem Notification location=jms/dwItemNotification
 /topic


Any ideas?  I'm on version 1.4.5.  1.4.8 has a regression on bug 188
that is a show stopper for us.  And in fact, this code worked uptil
yesterday when I made changes to try and get 1.4.8 to work.


TIA,
Vidur


PS.  If possible, please also cc me directly.  I'm really desperate.
--
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Active Solutions
tel: 617/566-1252
cell: 617/821-7115
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.active-solutions-inc.com








Setting Up News Application on Orion

2001-05-17 Thread B. Dawkins

Hi,

I am trying to set up the News Application Demo on Orion and I get the following information:
Auto-creating table: create table com_evermind_ejb_NewsItem (id Number not null primary key, submitter VARCHAR2(255) null, text VARCHAR2(255) null, subject VARCHAR2(255) null, parent NUMBER null) Warning:Error creating table: ORA-00904:invalid column name.

I know why the error is occurring (Date is a reserve word in Oracle) but where is this SQL file located so I could change the column name?

Thanks,
BrandyGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com



Deployment to multiple instances...?

2001-05-17 Thread Attila Bodis

Hi,

This is a newbie question, I guess...  Here is the situation:

I have a web application (a bunch of servlets, JSPs, and supporting classes)
I want to deploy to multiple Orion instances.  Some of these instances are
for QA, some are inside the firewall, and some are outside the firewall.  My
application has external dependencies on databases and files in the
filesystem that are not part of the application itself.  Rather than
hard-code these values, I include them as context-params in
WEB-INF/web.xml.

Ideally, I'd like to be able to build my web application on my development
machine, package it as a WAR file, and deploy it by just FTPing the WAR into
the appropriate directory on my various Orion instances.  The problem is, my
configuration parameters are in WEB-INF/web.xml, which is inside the WAR
file.  These configuration parameters have to be different for my different
instances (e.g. different directory structure, different database connection
parameters, etc.).  But the web.xml file inside the WAR file always
overwrites the one already deployed, which means each time I distribute my
WAR file to my different instances, I have to 1) wait for Orion to
auto-unpack the archive, then 2) manually change the settings in
WEB-INF/web.xml on each instance.

Of course if I avoid putting container-specific (i.e. deployment
environment-specific) parameters in WEB-INF/web.xml, then the same web.xml
will work on all of my various instances.  But then where do I put config
parameters such as log level, log file directory, and path to
my-secret-files, etc., which are used by the application but are specific
to the particular deployment environment?

Does Orion provide a way to specify config parameters for an application on
a per-container basis?

Thanks,

Attila


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http-ormi tunneling

2001-05-17 Thread Ivo Rakovac

Hello,
We are having trouble with the http ormi tunneling. The RMI-servlet is
installed in global-web-application.xml as follows:
….
servlet
servlet-namermi/servlet-name

servlet-classcom.evermind.server.rmi.RMIHttpTunnelServlet/servlet-class

 /servlet
…..


When we try to connect to the server using
http:ormi://localhost/appName, the tunnel servlet is initialized
(message in $orion-home$/log/global-application.log) but the server
gives no response. The pure ormi (ormi://localhost/appName ) connection
is working fine.

Any help / suggestions would be greatly appreciated,
Regards

Ivo Rakovac






Orion and Security

2001-05-17 Thread Doug Pham

Hi All,

Customer security is the question here.  Has anyone develop a security
system where all the information is located in the relational database.  I
would like the security to be held at the application server but as we go
into each restricted page, it will send the page info to the securityManager
which will send back the response privileges where the page can determine
from there.  Basically the secuityManager is at the server level and will
hold all the security information for a particular user for all the
applications available for that server.


Thanks

Doug Pham




RE: [1.4.8] WebContainer bug

2001-05-17 Thread Kesav Kumar
Title: RE: [1.4.8] WebContainer bug





Add a library path in your application.xml


Kesav Kumar
Software Engineer
Voquette, Inc.
650 356 3740
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.voquette.com
Voquette...Delivering Sound Information



-Original Message-
From: Steffen Stundzig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:02 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: [1.4.8] WebContainer bug



Hi,


I've installed Cocoon as servlet inside of the global application. 
Works fine and fast with orion.


The servlet generates JavaCode that would be compiled and loaded at runtime.
But now I've the problem, that some classes could not be found, because
the orion-classloader searches only in ORION_HOME/lib and not in the servlets
war archive in WEB-INF/lib.


How can I configure orion to look also in the WEB-INF/lib dir, to search
for classes, that are only needed by the deployed war?


Regards
 Steffen...


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Re: Deployment to multiple instances...?

2001-05-17 Thread Reid Hartenbower

This might not be the solution you're looking for, but you could use ant and
specifiy your different deployments as different targets.  This would at
least give you a central place to build from, and because ant knows about
.war packaging and supports FTP, theoretically (because I have not done this
myself) you can do all you're looking for with build scripts.

- Original Message -
From: Attila Bodis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:57 AM
Subject: Deployment to multiple instances...?


 Hi,

 This is a newbie question, I guess...  Here is the situation:

 I have a web application (a bunch of servlets, JSPs, and supporting
classes)
 I want to deploy to multiple Orion instances.  Some of these instances are
 for QA, some are inside the firewall, and some are outside the firewall.
My
 application has external dependencies on databases and files in the
 filesystem that are not part of the application itself.  Rather than
 hard-code these values, I include them as context-params in
 WEB-INF/web.xml.

 Ideally, I'd like to be able to build my web application on my development
 machine, package it as a WAR file, and deploy it by just FTPing the WAR
into
 the appropriate directory on my various Orion instances.  The problem is,
my
 configuration parameters are in WEB-INF/web.xml, which is inside the WAR
 file.  These configuration parameters have to be different for my
different
 instances (e.g. different directory structure, different database
connection
 parameters, etc.).  But the web.xml file inside the WAR file always
 overwrites the one already deployed, which means each time I distribute my
 WAR file to my different instances, I have to 1) wait for Orion to
 auto-unpack the archive, then 2) manually change the settings in
 WEB-INF/web.xml on each instance.

 Of course if I avoid putting container-specific (i.e. deployment
 environment-specific) parameters in WEB-INF/web.xml, then the same web.xml
 will work on all of my various instances.  But then where do I put config
 parameters such as log level, log file directory, and path to
 my-secret-files, etc., which are used by the application but are specific
 to the particular deployment environment?

 Does Orion provide a way to specify config parameters for an application
on
 a per-container basis?

 Thanks,

 Attila







Mailing List Test

2001-05-17 Thread Doug Pham

TEST #1




Re: Sharing session between all the modules of an application

2001-05-17 Thread John Hogan

I believe you get a separate ServletContext per war.

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Re: [1.4.8] WebContainer bug

2001-05-17 Thread Attila Bodis

Steffen,

Are the classes you are looking for packaged as JARs?  I believe Orion will
only look for JARs under WEB-INF/lib.  For standalone classes, you need to
put them under WEB-INF/classes.

Hope this helps,

Attila


- Original Message -
From: Steffen Stundzig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:01 AM
Subject: [1.4.8] WebContainer bug


 Hi,

 I've installed Cocoon as servlet inside of the global application.
 Works fine and fast with orion.

 The servlet generates JavaCode that would be compiled and loaded at
runtime.
 But now I've the problem, that some classes could not be found, because
 the orion-classloader searches only in ORION_HOME/lib and not in the
servlets
 war archive in WEB-INF/lib.

 How can I configure orion to look also in the WEB-INF/lib dir, to search
 for classes, that are only needed by the deployed war?

 Regards
 Steffen...

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Urgent: Message Driven Beans

2001-05-17 Thread Kesav Kumar
Title: Urgent: Message Driven Beans





Can I write two Message Driven Beans one for different Queue?


In my application I need to maintain two Queues one for incomming and one for processed messages. Is it possible to write two MDBs one for each Queue? I didn't find any place for MDB where I can specify which Queue name.

thanks


Kesav Kumar
Software Engineer
Voquette, Inc.
650 356 3740
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.voquette.com
Voquette...Delivering Sound Information





RE: Deployment to multiple instances...?

2001-05-17 Thread Jeff Schnitzer

Furthermore, rather than having multiple web.xml files, you can use
Ant's style task to apply transforms to the base web.xml.  Then all
you need are xsl files which contain the different context parameters.
With a little XSLT knowledge, it's really easy to do.

A simpler approach, though, would be to define propeties with the -D
option to the JVM.

Jeff

 -Original Message-
 From: Reid Hartenbower [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 1:19 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Re: Deployment to multiple instances...?
 
 
 This might not be the solution you're looking for, but you 
 could use ant and
 specifiy your different deployments as different targets.  
 This would at
 least give you a central place to build from, and because ant 
 knows about
 .war packaging and supports FTP, theoretically (because I 
 have not done this
 myself) you can do all you're looking for with build scripts.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Attila Bodis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:57 AM
 Subject: Deployment to multiple instances...?
 
 
  Hi,
 
  This is a newbie question, I guess...  Here is the situation:
 
  I have a web application (a bunch of servlets, JSPs, and supporting
 classes)
  I want to deploy to multiple Orion instances.  Some of 
 these instances are
  for QA, some are inside the firewall, and some are outside 
 the firewall.
 My
  application has external dependencies on databases and files in the
  filesystem that are not part of the application itself.  Rather than
  hard-code these values, I include them as context-params in
  WEB-INF/web.xml.
 
  Ideally, I'd like to be able to build my web application on 
 my development
  machine, package it as a WAR file, and deploy it by just 
 FTPing the WAR
 into
  the appropriate directory on my various Orion instances.  
 The problem is,
 my
  configuration parameters are in WEB-INF/web.xml, which is 
 inside the WAR
  file.  These configuration parameters have to be different for my
 different
  instances (e.g. different directory structure, different database
 connection
  parameters, etc.).  But the web.xml file inside the WAR file always
  overwrites the one already deployed, which means each time 
 I distribute my
  WAR file to my different instances, I have to 1) wait for Orion to
  auto-unpack the archive, then 2) manually change the settings in
  WEB-INF/web.xml on each instance.
 
  Of course if I avoid putting container-specific (i.e. deployment
  environment-specific) parameters in WEB-INF/web.xml, then 
 the same web.xml
  will work on all of my various instances.  But then where 
 do I put config
  parameters such as log level, log file directory, and path to
  my-secret-files, etc., which are used by the application 
 but are specific
  to the particular deployment environment?
 
  Does Orion provide a way to specify config parameters for 
 an application
 on
  a per-container basis?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Attila
 
 
 
 
 




Re: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS

2001-05-17 Thread Vidur Dhanda

JDK 1.3.1 rc2 and I'm not getting to the point where a message can be sent or 
received.  The problem occurs in
createSubscriber() or createTopicConnection().

Vidur

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Vidur,
 What is your message size and what is your jdk version? if you are using
 any of pre jdk-1.3 (to start orion server) and if your message size is more
 than 64K, you will have similar problem.
 --venkat


 Vidur Dhanda
 vdhanda@active-solutions-To: Orion-Interest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 inc.com  cc: 'Orion-Interest' 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent by:  Subject: Re: HELP! 1.4.5 
and JMS
 owner-orion-interest@orion
 server.com


 05/17/01 12:18 PM
 Please respond to
 Orion-Interest



 I have jndi.properties on the classpath.  And when I examine the Context
 that is used for the lookup, it has the appropriate values.  There's
 something else (hopefully, very basic) that is going on here.  Could
 someone try running the code against  their installation?

 Thanks,
 Vidur
 Kesav Kumar wrote: If you write a separate client app to access JMS
 messages you need to have jndi.properties file or you need to provide the
 properties to the InitialContext.  Here aret the steps to write a separate
 client app which runs outside the orion environment. 1) In your jms.xml
 don't have any connection factory just declare your topics/queues 2) Either
 have jndi.properties in the class path with the following contents
 
java.naming.factory.initial=com.evermind.server.ApplicationClientInitialContextFactory

 java.naming.provider.url=ormi://localhost/
 java.naming.security.principal=admin
 java.naming.security.credentials=admin Or create a Hashatble with
 the above key, values and pass to the InitialContext constructor. 3) If you
 are using orion1.4.8 which creating connection from factory pass
 username/password as a paramters to
 factory.createXXXConnection(username, password).  I hope this will work.
 - Original Message -
 From: Vidur Dhanda
 To: Kesav Kumar
 Cc: 'Orion-Interest'
 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 7:16 PM
 Subject: Re: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS
  Hi Kesav,

 Thanks for the tip. I tried that with both 1.4.5 and 1.4.8.  After removing
 the connection factory line, in 1.4.5, the client hangs on
 TopicConnection.createSubscriber().  If I give the createTopicConnection a
 username and password, then the server throws a NPE and the client hangs at
 createTopicConnection().

 The same problem persists in 1.4.8.

 I'm sure I'm doing something really stupid.  However, I have no idea how to
 solve it.  I'm attaching some code in the hope that someone can help me out
 of this mess.  I've tried it against 1.4.5 and 1.4.8.  And I am really
 desperate!

 Thanks,
 Vidur

 Kesav Kumar wrote:

 Just remove the connectionfactory line from your jms.xml.

 Kesav Kumar
 Software Engineer
 Voquette, Inc.
 650 356 3740
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.voquette.com
 Voquette...Delivering Sound Information

 -Original Message-
 From: Vidur Dhanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:31 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS

 Please help!  I broke something in my code and can't figure it out.  On
 the client, I'm consistently getting:
 java.lang.NullPointerException
  at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:329)
  at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:306)
  at com.evermind.server.jms.cj.init(JAX)
  at com.evermind.server.jms.b8.start(JAX)
  at
 com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getConnection(NotificationBase.java:89)

  at
 com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getSession(NotificationBase.java:101)

  at
 com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getSubscriber(NotificationBase.java:44)

 Auto-started clients can send/receive messages without trouble.

 getConnection() calls createTopicConnection() and then start().
 If I use, createConnection (usr, pwd), then the system hangs.

 In jms.xml, I have:
 jms-server host=192.168.10.2 port=9127
  topic-connection-factory host=192.168.10.2
   location=jms/notificationFactory port=9127 /
  topic name=DWItem Notification location=jms/dwItemNotification
  /topic

 Any ideas?  I'm on version 1.4.5.  1.4.8 has a regression on bug 188
 that is a show stopper for us.  And in fact, this code worked uptil
 yesterday when I made changes to try and get 1.4.8 to work.

 TIA,
 Vidur

 PS.  If possible, please also cc me directly.  I'm really desperate.
 --
 Vidur Dhanda
 Active Solutions
 tel: 617/566-1252
 cell: 617/821-7115
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.active-solutions-inc.com

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RE: Deployment to multiple instances...?

2001-05-17 Thread Andre Vanha

Atilla,
Take a look at the orion-web.xml.  It should be possible to provide override
values using orion specific tags.  Since the Orion-web.xml is not rewritten
when a new version of the web file is deployed, once you set the file up,
you should be good to go.

Andre

orion-web.xml reference:
http://www.orionserver.com/docs/orion-web.xml.html

-Original Message-
From: Reid Hartenbower [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 2:19 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Deployment to multiple instances...?


This might not be the solution you're looking for, but you could use ant and
specifiy your different deployments as different targets.  This would at
least give you a central place to build from, and because ant knows about
.war packaging and supports FTP, theoretically (because I have not done this
myself) you can do all you're looking for with build scripts.

- Original Message -
From: Attila Bodis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:57 AM
Subject: Deployment to multiple instances...?


 Hi,

 This is a newbie question, I guess...  Here is the situation:

 I have a web application (a bunch of servlets, JSPs, and supporting
classes)
 I want to deploy to multiple Orion instances.  Some of these instances are
 for QA, some are inside the firewall, and some are outside the firewall.
My
 application has external dependencies on databases and files in the
 filesystem that are not part of the application itself.  Rather than
 hard-code these values, I include them as context-params in
 WEB-INF/web.xml.

 Ideally, I'd like to be able to build my web application on my development
 machine, package it as a WAR file, and deploy it by just FTPing the WAR
into
 the appropriate directory on my various Orion instances.  The problem is,
my
 configuration parameters are in WEB-INF/web.xml, which is inside the WAR
 file.  These configuration parameters have to be different for my
different
 instances (e.g. different directory structure, different database
connection
 parameters, etc.).  But the web.xml file inside the WAR file always
 overwrites the one already deployed, which means each time I distribute my
 WAR file to my different instances, I have to 1) wait for Orion to
 auto-unpack the archive, then 2) manually change the settings in
 WEB-INF/web.xml on each instance.

 Of course if I avoid putting container-specific (i.e. deployment
 environment-specific) parameters in WEB-INF/web.xml, then the same web.xml
 will work on all of my various instances.  But then where do I put config
 parameters such as log level, log file directory, and path to
 my-secret-files, etc., which are used by the application but are specific
 to the particular deployment environment?

 Does Orion provide a way to specify config parameters for an application
on
 a per-container basis?

 Thanks,

 Attila







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Re: Deployment to multiple instances...?

2001-05-17 Thread Attila Bodis

Andre,

Thanks a lot, I should have known it was an RTFM question...  Sorry!

The web-app child element inside the orion-web-app element is exactly
what I need.

Thanks again,

Attila



- Original Message -
From: Andre Vanha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:53 PM
Subject: RE: Deployment to multiple instances...?


 Atilla,
 Take a look at the orion-web.xml.  It should be possible to provide
override
 values using orion specific tags.  Since the Orion-web.xml is not
rewritten
 when a new version of the web file is deployed, once you set the file up,
 you should be good to go.

 Andre

 orion-web.xml reference:
 http://www.orionserver.com/docs/orion-web.xml.html

 -Original Message-
 From: Reid Hartenbower [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 2:19 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Re: Deployment to multiple instances...?


 This might not be the solution you're looking for, but you could use ant
and
 specifiy your different deployments as different targets.  This would at
 least give you a central place to build from, and because ant knows about
 .war packaging and supports FTP, theoretically (because I have not done
this
 myself) you can do all you're looking for with build scripts.

 - Original Message -
 From: Attila Bodis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:57 AM
 Subject: Deployment to multiple instances...?


  Hi,
 
  This is a newbie question, I guess...  Here is the situation:
 
  I have a web application (a bunch of servlets, JSPs, and supporting
 classes)
  I want to deploy to multiple Orion instances.  Some of these instances
are
  for QA, some are inside the firewall, and some are outside the firewall.
 My
  application has external dependencies on databases and files in the
  filesystem that are not part of the application itself.  Rather than
  hard-code these values, I include them as context-params in
  WEB-INF/web.xml.
 
  Ideally, I'd like to be able to build my web application on my
development
  machine, package it as a WAR file, and deploy it by just FTPing the WAR
 into
  the appropriate directory on my various Orion instances.  The problem
is,
 my
  configuration parameters are in WEB-INF/web.xml, which is inside the WAR
  file.  These configuration parameters have to be different for my
 different
  instances (e.g. different directory structure, different database
 connection
  parameters, etc.).  But the web.xml file inside the WAR file always
  overwrites the one already deployed, which means each time I distribute
my
  WAR file to my different instances, I have to 1) wait for Orion to
  auto-unpack the archive, then 2) manually change the settings in
  WEB-INF/web.xml on each instance.
 
  Of course if I avoid putting container-specific (i.e. deployment
  environment-specific) parameters in WEB-INF/web.xml, then the same
web.xml
  will work on all of my various instances.  But then where do I put
config
  parameters such as log level, log file directory, and path to
  my-secret-files, etc., which are used by the application but are
specific
  to the particular deployment environment?
 
  Does Orion provide a way to specify config parameters for an application
 on
  a per-container basis?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Attila
 









Orion - Postgresql

2001-05-17 Thread Budi Prawira
Title: Orion - Postgresql





I've searched for it, but I cannot find one.


How do I filled in the data-source.xml to connect to postgresql? fyi, I use postgresql7.0-1.2.jar.


Are these correct?
 data-source
  class=???
  name=Postgresql
  location=jdbc/PostgresqlDS
  xa-location=jdbc/xa/PostgresqlXADS
  ejb-location=jdbc/PostgresqlDS
  connection-driver=org.postgresql.Driver
  username=username
  password=password
  url=jdbc:postgresql:mydb
  inactivity-timeout=30
 /


thanks!
Budi





RE: Orion - Postgresql

2001-05-17 Thread elephantwalker
Title: Orion - Postgresql



There's a howto on www.orionsupport.com for 
postgre...

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Budi 
  PrawiraSent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 6:21 PMTo: 
  Orion-InterestSubject: Orion - Postgresql
  I've searched for it, but I cannot find one. 
  How do I filled in the data-source.xml to connect to 
  postgresql? fyi, I use postgresql7.0-1.2.jar. 
  Are these correct? 
   data-source  
   class="???" 
   
   name="Postgresql"  
   location="jdbc/PostgresqlDS" 
   
   xa-location="jdbc/xa/PostgresqlXADS" 
   
   ejb-location="jdbc/PostgresqlDS" 
   
   connection-driver="org.postgresql.Driver" 
   
   username="username" 
   
   password="password" 
   
   url="jdbc:postgresql:mydb" 
   
   inactivity-timeout="30" 
   / 
  thanks! Budi 



Solved: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS

2001-05-17 Thread Vidur Dhanda

I think the problem in both 1.4.5 and 1.4.8 is that once a TopicConnection is
started, calling createSubscriber() hangs.  The simple workaround is to stop the
connection, create the subscriber and start the connection again.  I'm filing this
as a bug.

Vidur

Vidur Dhanda wrote:

 Please help!  I broke something in my code and can't figure it out.  On
 the client, I'm consistently getting:
 java.lang.NullPointerException
  at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:329)
  at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:306)
  at com.evermind.server.jms.cj.init(JAX)
  at com.evermind.server.jms.b8.start(JAX)
  at
 com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getConnection(NotificationBase.java:89)

  at
 com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getSession(NotificationBase.java:101)

  at
 com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getSubscriber(NotificationBase.java:44)

 Auto-started clients can send/receive messages without trouble.

 getConnection() calls createTopicConnection() and then start().
 If I use, createConnection (usr, pwd), then the system hangs.

 In jms.xml, I have:
 jms-server host=192.168.10.2 port=9127
  topic-connection-factory host=192.168.10.2
   location=jms/notificationFactory port=9127 /
  topic name=DWItem Notification location=jms/dwItemNotification
  /topic

 Any ideas?  I'm on version 1.4.5.  1.4.8 has a regression on bug 188
 that is a show stopper for us.  And in fact, this code worked uptil
 yesterday when I made changes to try and get 1.4.8 to work.

 TIA,
 Vidur

 PS.  If possible, please also cc me directly.  I'm really desperate.
 --
 Vidur Dhanda
 Active Solutions
 tel: 617/566-1252
 cell: 617/821-7115
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.active-solutions-inc.com

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RE: Standar Template

2001-05-17 Thread Jeff Schnitzer

We finally released our framework, so I have some breathing time now :-)
I'd love to take a look to see if we can find synergy.  The only caveat
is that I would like to avoid GPL; code would need an MIT/BSD/Apache (or
equivalent) license.

If you're interested, take a look at Maverick:

http://mav.sourceforge.net

Later!

Jeff

 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 12:27 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Re: Standar Template
 
 
 Hi,
 I haven't looked much into SiteMesh, but, just looking at the 
 overview,
 it seems to me that you still have to generate the content of the
 different sites that you want to mesh, and if they look totally
 different then you are out of luck.
 We are using the same approach that Jeff is talking about and we don't
 consider XML/XSL to be that slow, as using precompiled stylesheets we
 boosted aour performance by a factor of three and the heaviest
 operation is accesing the database. As XSLT implementations 
 improve day
 by day, I hope this will be less of a problem in the future. And using
 XML as the common ground is, IMHO, a very good approach to integrating
 different applications as you can use common stylesheets to integrate
 the different sources.
 But I won't pretend it is a perfect solution or that everybody should
 use it. That's what we use because it fits well into our team and
 requirements. And, Jeff, we also created our own framework to 
 basically
 allow us to get the XLM content from various sources, 
 including directly
 from PLSQL, so if you want we could talk about it privately. 
 We GPLd our
 framework but we haven't publicized it as we don't have much 
 time to do
 so.
 Just my 2c,
 Dan
 
 
 
 Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
  
  Noo - XML/XSL is too slow / fugly to actually use day 
 to day (IMHO)
  
  I'd advise you to check out SiteMesh - it's built for this 
 exact purpose!
  
  http://www.opensymphony.com/sitemesh
  
  Quite simply you provide JSP based decorators which are 
 mapped to URIs.
  
  Download and install the sample app, it's the only way to 
 learn about it.
  
  $10 says you're using it within a week ;)
  
  -mike
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
 Jeff Schnitzer
   Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 7:12 AM
   To: Orion-Interest
   Subject: RE: Standar Template
  
  
   I've iterated through several solutions to this problem 
 and can offer
   some advice:
  
   I started out using option 1 as you describe.  I quickly 
 noticed that
   *every* page contains the definition of the layout and look of the
   website.  What if I wanted to put the navigation bar on the right
   instead of the left?  I would have to modify *every 
 single page* in my
   website.  Yuck.
  
  
   My next step was to put the container code in separate 
 head/foot JSP
   files and @include them like this:
  
   %@ include file=head_stuff.jsp %
   p
 My content
   /p
   %@ include file=foot_stuff.jsp %
  
   Which at least puts all the look and feel stuff in a 
 handful of places.
   But my site has different templates for the logged in 
 user vs the
   welcome/signup screens and a few other special cases as well.  It
   quickly became a pain to keep track of all the different 
 headers and
   footers, and in any case opening tags in one file and 
 closing them in
   another really sucks.  Yuck.
  
  
   Next step was option 2 as you describe.  I created
   template_inside.jsp, template_outside.jsp, etc which 
 contain all the
   layout structure and then include the appropriate content 
 file based on
   a parameter.  Since I'm using an MVC framework, this is 
 pretty easy to
   do.
  
   This is the best option I've described so far, and it 
 works.  But it's
   not very sophisticated, and it doesn't make having 
 multiple layers very
   easy.  Fortunately I'm working on my own time, so now I'm 
 moving on to
   the fourth generation of my website content:
  
  
   This sort of templating is where XSLT really shines.  Rather than
   creating templating layers from the top down, XSLT allows 
 you to start
   at the bottom and build up, successively transforming the input.
   Wrapping (in a layout template) is just one kind of 
 transformation.
   Each step has no need to know anything specific about the 
 previous step;
   it's all just based on transformation rules.
  
   I'm still near the bottom of the XSLT learning curve, but 
 I'm already
   amazed at how powerful it is.  It's also a lot easier to 
 pick up than I
   had expected from first looking at a sample.
  
   The only problem with using XSLT in a web application is 
 the lack of
   framework support.  Cocoon did not make a favorable 
 impression on me (to
   say the least).  I wanted something that provides a 
 simple MVC paradigm
   like WebWork or (not-so-simple) Struts but uses XSLT for the view
   templating.  So I (and a friend) sat down and wrote it.  
 Tomorrow 

ANN: Maverick MVC framework (w/XSLT support) released!

2001-05-17 Thread Jeff Schnitzer

http://mav.sourceforge.net

The MVC framework that a friend and I have been working on is finally
ready for public consumption.  What's cool about Maverick can pretty
much be summed up by this snippet from a hypothetical config file:

  command id=statistics
controller type=org.infohazard.foo.controller.Stats /

view id=error
  source-documentunavailable.xml/source-document
  pipeline
transform src=lookAndFeel.xsl /
  /pipeline
/view

view id=success
  source-model node=stats/
  pipeline
transform src=statistics.xsl /
transform src=lookAndFeel.xsl /
  /pipeline
/view
  /command

This shows a command that uses a controller to perform some processing
(bean properties on the controller are automatically populated from the
request parameters) and that can return one of two defined views.  The
success view wraps the JavaBeans model obtained from the controller in
an adapter pattern which provides a DOM facade to the XSLT engine.

Key points:

. No need for intermediate templating languages like JSP or XSP to
generate XML prior to transformation.  An adapter provides a DOM
representation of an arbitrary graph of JavaBeans through reflection.

. You can define as many transformations per view as you like.

. You can stop the transformation at any point (including prior to any
transformation) and obtain the XML representation.  XSLT designers can
then work with offline content.

. You can still use traditional JSP pages just like you can with Struts,
with the model being placed in an attribute collection for use by
jsp:useBean.  If they generate XML, the pipeline facility is
available.

. Extensively tested with Orion :-)

This is version 0.8, the first public release.  Feedback is appreciated!

http://mav.sourceforge.net

Enjoy :-)

Jeff Schnitzer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Scott Hernandez
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: Standar Template

2001-05-17 Thread Jeff Schnitzer

Oops.  Sorry everyone, that was not supposed to be posted to the list.

Jeff

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Schnitzer 
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:47 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: Standar Template
 
 
 We finally released our framework, so I have some breathing 
 time now :-)
 I'd love to take a look to see if we can find synergy.  The 
 only caveat
 is that I would like to avoid GPL; code would need an 
 MIT/BSD/Apache (or
 equivalent) license.
 
 If you're interested, take a look at Maverick:
 
 http://mav.sourceforge.net
 
 Later!
 
 Jeff
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Daniel Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 12:27 AM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: Re: Standar Template
  
  
  Hi,
  I haven't looked much into SiteMesh, but, just looking at the 
  overview,
  it seems to me that you still have to generate the content of the
  different sites that you want to mesh, and if they look totally
  different then you are out of luck.
  We are using the same approach that Jeff is talking about 
 and we don't
  consider XML/XSL to be that slow, as using precompiled 
 stylesheets we
  boosted aour performance by a factor of three and the heaviest
  operation is accesing the database. As XSLT implementations 
  improve day
  by day, I hope this will be less of a problem in the 
 future. And using
  XML as the common ground is, IMHO, a very good approach to 
 integrating
  different applications as you can use common stylesheets to 
 integrate
  the different sources.
  But I won't pretend it is a perfect solution or that 
 everybody should
  use it. That's what we use because it fits well into our team and
  requirements. And, Jeff, we also created our own framework to 
  basically
  allow us to get the XLM content from various sources, 
  including directly
  from PLSQL, so if you want we could talk about it privately. 
  We GPLd our
  framework but we haven't publicized it as we don't have much 
  time to do
  so.
  Just my 2c,
  Dan
  
  
  
  Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
   
   Noo - XML/XSL is too slow / fugly to actually use day 
  to day (IMHO)
   
   I'd advise you to check out SiteMesh - it's built for this 
  exact purpose!
   
   http://www.opensymphony.com/sitemesh
   
   Quite simply you provide JSP based decorators which are 
  mapped to URIs.
   
   Download and install the sample app, it's the only way to 
  learn about it.
   
   $10 says you're using it within a week ;)
   
   -mike
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
  Jeff Schnitzer
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 7:12 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Standar Template
   
   
I've iterated through several solutions to this problem 
  and can offer
some advice:
   
I started out using option 1 as you describe.  I quickly 
  noticed that
*every* page contains the definition of the layout and 
 look of the
website.  What if I wanted to put the navigation bar on 
 the right
instead of the left?  I would have to modify *every 
  single page* in my
website.  Yuck.
   
   
My next step was to put the container code in separate 
  head/foot JSP
files and @include them like this:
   
%@ include file=head_stuff.jsp %
p
  My content
/p
%@ include file=foot_stuff.jsp %
   
Which at least puts all the look and feel stuff in a 
  handful of places.
But my site has different templates for the logged in 
  user vs the
welcome/signup screens and a few other special cases as 
 well.  It
quickly became a pain to keep track of all the different 
  headers and
footers, and in any case opening tags in one file and 
  closing them in
another really sucks.  Yuck.
   
   
Next step was option 2 as you describe.  I created
template_inside.jsp, template_outside.jsp, etc which 
  contain all the
layout structure and then include the appropriate content 
  file based on
a parameter.  Since I'm using an MVC framework, this is 
  pretty easy to
do.
   
This is the best option I've described so far, and it 
  works.  But it's
not very sophisticated, and it doesn't make having 
  multiple layers very
easy.  Fortunately I'm working on my own time, so now I'm 
  moving on to
the fourth generation of my website content:
   
   
This sort of templating is where XSLT really shines.  
 Rather than
creating templating layers from the top down, XSLT allows 
  you to start
at the bottom and build up, successively transforming the input.
Wrapping (in a layout template) is just one kind of 
  transformation.
Each step has no need to know anything specific about the 
  previous step;
it's all just based on transformation rules.
   
I'm still near the bottom of the XSLT learning curve, but 
  I'm already
amazed at how powerful it is.  It's also a lot easier to 
  pick up than I
had expected from