Shutdown causes Address in use: JVM_Bind
I'm running Orion 1.5.3 on Nt4/SP6, and jdk1.3.1_01. The command I use to shut the server down is: C:\jdk1.3.1_01\bin\java.exe -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost admin pwd -shutdown After a shutdown, starting the server always produces the following on the orion console. Error starting HTTP-Server: Address in use: JVM_BindOrion/1.5.3 initialized My work-around is to boot windows, very tedious. The command I use to start the server is: C:\jdk1.3.1_01\bin\java.exe "-jar" "orion.jar" I had a look thru the archive but the search keys 'Shutdown', and various substrings of the serverconsolelog, above, did notreveal any solutions. Is there an alternative way of shutting down the server, that releases the tcp/ip binding ? TIA Bill.
EJB 2.0 ?
Does anyone know if/when full EJB2.0 / J2EE1.3 support will be available in Orion? i.e. Local interfaces and CMP2.0. They seem to have been on an almost EJB2.0 spec for months. I bet Oracle get full compliance first... _ Alison Associates The information contained in this e-mail and any attached files is intended only for the use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. The views of the author may not necessarily reflect the views of the Company. If you are not the intended recipient please do not copy or convey this message or any attached files to any other person but delete this message and any attached files and notify us of incorrect receipt via e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs.
Orion+Linux under heavy load
When browsing through JBoss's documentation I found this remark: http://www.jboss.org/online-manual/HTML/ch11s02.html --snip-- Be aware however that JBoss performance is very dependant on the underlying configuration. For example, informal tests show that on the same PC box, it can run twice as fast under Windows 2000 / Sun JVM than under Linux 2.2 / Sun JVM. Linux users probably already know that linux does not support real threads. Under heavy load, JBoss will for example crash with 200 concurrent users under linux, whereas it can handle 1000 of them on the same box with Windows 2000. Of course, if you use Apache or Jetty in front of JBoss to handle the thread pooling, this will not be a problem. --/snip-- How about Orion, has anyone compared Win2k and Linux regarding speed? The last paragraph is really alarming -- is it really so that Linux is not a wise choice as a production platform? Is this why UNIX is so popular in production environments? Or is JBoss just coded poorly? How many users (sessions) can Orion handle, is there a difference in Win2k / Linux / UNIX performance? Cheers, Peter
Re: [announce] Log4J Appender for Orion's application.log
Geoff Soutter wrote I've hacked up an Orion Appender to allow you to log to the application.log file, via the Logger instance that Orion installs at java:comp/Logger. Here it is in all it's glory, use it however you wish. Cheers Geoff PS, did anyone figure out if it's possible to get orion to roll it's log files when they get too big? ;-) How about Orion logs to a log4j output device instead of apps logging to Orion's log files? Or did I miss understand this functionality?? Personally I feel the new log4j 1.3 features that make it easier for each application to have it's xml config file in the .war / .ear so that apps can have their own (separate) log files from each other to be a very useful choice. My view of the problem of deploying and supporting a j2ee app is the few features j2ee put in the spec (a big zero) to allow debugging and logging of app, feature, bean operations. I feel we need to drill on the debugging problem until we have a facility that supports logging based on session ID, so that we can follow a particular user's actions and failures across a cluster and set of services. To me, moving to one log file for the universe is the wrong direction? Any opinions? curt
Re: classpath issues??
Another way of doing this: If your helper classes are part of a common library (i.e. may be used from other applications) you can put the jar in the orion/lib directory to maintain just one copy. I'm not sure if J2EE specifications says something about it, but it works in all servers I know. JJ - Original Message - From: Jacky Cheung [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:41 AM Subject: Re: classpath issues?? You can put allsrc.jar under WEB-INF/lib of your webapp. Or you can put the jar in ear and add an entry Class-Path: allsrc.jar in the manifest file of the ear. Best regards, Jacky - Original Message - From: Dan Ascheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: classpath issues?? Ok, I've created an application (.ear file) which has successfully been deployed, BUT my servlet in my .war file blows up on a runtime exception because it can't find it's base class, or helper classes. I have a .jar file called allsrc.jar that contains all classes in my system, and that resides in my .ear file - I thought that would be enough for my servlet to see it, but it's not. I tried putting the allsrc.jar in my d:\orion directory and it didn't work, and I tried referencing it in my classpath upon startup like this: java -cp=d:/orion/fwrk/allsrc.jar -jar orion.jar Nothing seems to work!! The only way I can get my servlet to successfully run is to unjar all of my classes into my web-inf/classes directory, and I don't want to do that. So, where do I put my allsrc.jar so my servlet can find the classes it needs to run?? thanks, Dan _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: EJB 2.0 ?
I've been told by pretty good sources that it's coming in the next release. Unfortunately they could give me a solid answer on when this next release will be, other than soon :) --- Dan Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if/when full EJB2.0 / J2EE1.3 support will be available in Orion? i.e. Local interfaces and CMP2.0. They seem to have been on an almost EJB2.0 spec for months. I bet Oracle get full compliance first... _ Alison Associates The information contained in this e-mail and any attached files is intended only for the use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. The views of the author may not necessarily reflect the views of the Company. If you are not the intended recipient please do not copy or convey this message or any attached files to any other person but delete this message and any attached files and notify us of incorrect receipt via e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com
Re: Orion+Linux under heavy load
Don't worry. That problem is already fixed in the latest linux kernel releases. I don't remember exactly release number but you can easily find it. I've made some tests with JBoss and it runs very well. JJ - Original Message - From: Peter Peltonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:57 AM Subject: Orion+Linux under heavy load When browsing through JBoss's documentation I found this remark: http://www.jboss.org/online-manual/HTML/ch11s02.html --snip-- Be aware however that JBoss performance is very dependant on the underlying configuration. For example, informal tests show that on the same PC box, it can run twice as fast under Windows 2000 / Sun JVM than under Linux 2.2 / Sun JVM. Linux users probably already know that linux does not support real threads. Under heavy load, JBoss will for example crash with 200 concurrent users under linux, whereas it can handle 1000 of them on the same box with Windows 2000. Of course, if you use Apache or Jetty in front of JBoss to handle the thread pooling, this will not be a problem. --/snip-- How about Orion, has anyone compared Win2k and Linux regarding speed? The last paragraph is really alarming -- is it really so that Linux is not a wise choice as a production platform? Is this why UNIX is so popular in production environments? Or is JBoss just coded poorly? How many users (sessions) can Orion handle, is there a difference in Win2k / Linux / UNIX performance? Cheers, Peter
Re: classpath issues??
You may be interested in this documentation on classloaders in Orion: http://kb.atlassian.com/content/atlassian/howto/classloaders.jsp Cheers, Scott Scott Farquhar :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Atlassian :: http://www.atlassian.com Supporting YOUR J2EE World Jorge Jimenez C wrote: Another way of doing this: If your helper classes are part of a common library (i.e. may be used from other applications) you can put the jar in the orion/lib directory to maintain just one copy. I'm not sure if J2EE specifications says something about it, but it works in all servers I know. JJ - Original Message - From: Jacky Cheung [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:41 AM Subject: Re: classpath issues?? You can put allsrc.jar under WEB-INF/lib of your webapp. Or you can put the jar in ear and add an entry Class-Path: allsrc.jar in the manifest file of the ear. Best regards, Jacky - Original Message - From: Dan Ascheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: classpath issues?? Ok, I've created an application (.ear file) which has successfully been deployed, BUT my servlet in my .war file blows up on a runtime exception because it can't find it's base class, or helper classes. I have a .jar file called allsrc.jar that contains all classes in my system, and that resides in my .ear file - I thought that would be enough for my servlet to see it, but it's not. I tried putting the allsrc.jar in my d:\orion directory and it didn't work, and I tried referencing it in my classpath upon startup like this: java -cp=d:/orion/fwrk/allsrc.jar -jar orion.jar Nothing seems to work!! The only way I can get my servlet to successfully run is to unjar all of my classes into my web-inf/classes directory, and I don't want to do that. So, where do I put my allsrc.jar so my servlet can find the classes it needs to run?? thanks, Dan _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --
RE: Username and Password
Hi All, Thanks for your responses. They were very helpful. Joanne
Application client log in
We are currently implementing a Java Swing client, and I am wondering how to write the log in system. When not using http or form based log in (HTML) and when you wish to let the client log in from a GUI interface (Swing), which part of Orion is then used to hand over the username and password for authorization? Randahl
j_security_check
I use FORM-based authentication in my app, thus specifying j_security_check as the action attribute of the login form. For reasons not clear to me Orion sometimes reacts with the error message: Resource /SAM/j_security_check not found on this server. If I just type in the URL that is also in my welcome-file-list, I find that I have been logged in!? What is this? msg17882/bin0.bin Description: application/ms-tnef
MDB Orion 1.5.3
Hi all, I'm trying to use Queue based MDB with Orion 1.5.3. I've got to the point of deploying my bean but when I post something to the queue my MDB never get the message. I also notice that Orion seems to load the MDB class twice, it doesn't do that with any of my other beans! I believe I've set up my jms.xml correctly so I am wondering if any of you have any words of wisdom. Thanks, Guy.
Re: EJB 2.0 ?
They always say this. Not only IronFlare guys say this, i see oracle also says the same thing!! An update will follow shortly after the initial version and will bring the product into full compliance with the J2EE 1.3 specification. This update will primarily focus on providing providing features of EJB 2.0 , stated in oracle's statement of direction !! We hope this would come out ASAP :) -MS\ I've been told by pretty good sources that it's coming in the next release. Unfortunately they could give me a solid answer on when this next release will be, other than soon :) --- Dan Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if/when full EJB2.0 / J2EE1.3 support will be available in Orion? i.e. Local interfaces and CMP2.0. They seem to have been on an almost EJB2.0 spec for months. I bet Oracle get full compliance first... _ Alison Associates The information contained in this e-mail and any attached files is intended only for the use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. The views of the author may not necessarily reflect the views of the Company. If you are not the intended recipient please do not copy or convey this message or any attached files to any other person but delete this message and any attached files and notify us of incorrect receipt via e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com
How to use the compound-mapping object int the EJB finder query?
Hi, I am using the compound object mapping, the compound object used in the EJB bean class has private attributes and corresponding getters and setters. But I don't know how to use them in the finder query string. I am using the following syntax, but I doubt about it since the province is private to address class. $1=Client.address.province Does that work or should I change the address class to have public attributes(I don't like it). Thanks a lot. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com
Re: Shutdown causes Address in use: JVM_Bind
Hi Bill. I do not know about Windows, but on linux, the server does not finish dying when the shutdown command is issued. After I issue the shutdown command, the server command, the server processes are still running, so I have to manually go kill them. This can be readily verified in Windows by using the Task Manager to see if any java processes are still running after you issue a shutdown. You may have to kill them via the Task Manager. -Steve Bill Winspur wrote: I'm running Orion 1.5.3 on Nt4/SP6, and jdk1.3.1_01. The command I use to shut the server down is: *C:\jdk1.3.1_01\bin\java.exe -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost admin pwd -shutdown* After a shutdown, starting the server always produces the following on the orion console. *Error starting HTTP-Server: Address in use: JVM_Bind Orion/1.5.3 initialized * My work-around is to boot windows, very tedious. The command I use to start the server is: *C:\jdk1.3.1_01\bin\java.exe -jar orion.jar* I had a look thru the archive but the search keys 'Shutdown', and various substrings of the server console log, above, did not reveal any solutions. Is there an alternative way of shutting down the server, that releases the tcp/ip binding ? TIA Bill. -- Stephen Davidson Java Consultant Delphi Consultants, LLC http://www.delphis.com Phone: 214-696-6224 x208
Re: Orion+Linux under heavy load
Wich problem do you say they've fixed? threads under linux? i've done some tests with a redhat 6.2.(sorry i can't remember exactly the kernel version) and jboss, and only at start time it was about three times slower than the same jboss in a windows 2000. If with the new kernel versions it runs more efficiently, it would be great because i'm a linux fan that has been forced to use windows by this problem... XD - Original Message - From: Jorge Jimenez C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Orion+Linux under heavy load Don't worry. That problem is already fixed in the latest linux kernel releases. I don't remember exactly release number but you can easily find it. I've made some tests with JBoss and it runs very well. JJ - Original Message - From: Peter Peltonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:57 AM Subject: Orion+Linux under heavy load When browsing through JBoss's documentation I found this remark: http://www.jboss.org/online-manual/HTML/ch11s02.html --snip-- Be aware however that JBoss performance is very dependant on the underlying configuration. For example, informal tests show that on the same PC box, it can run twice as fast under Windows 2000 / Sun JVM than under Linux 2.2 / Sun JVM. Linux users probably already know that linux does not support real threads. Under heavy load, JBoss will for example crash with 200 concurrent users under linux, whereas it can handle 1000 of them on the same box with Windows 2000. Of course, if you use Apache or Jetty in front of JBoss to handle the thread pooling, this will not be a problem. --/snip-- How about Orion, has anyone compared Win2k and Linux regarding speed? The last paragraph is really alarming -- is it really so that Linux is not a wise choice as a production platform? Is this why UNIX is so popular in production environments? Or is JBoss just coded poorly? How many users (sessions) can Orion handle, is there a difference in Win2k / Linux / UNIX performance? Cheers, Peter
RE: j_security_check
I am having the same problem. I have noticed that it seems to only happen when using a Servlet. If the protected resource is a JSP it doesn't seem to happen. -Original Message- From: Mulder, Frans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:51 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: j_security_check I use FORM-based authentication in my app, thus specifying j_security_check as the action attribute of the login form. For reasons not clear to me Orion sometimes reacts with the error message: Resource /SAM/j_security_check not found on this server. If I just type in the URL that is also in my welcome-file-list, I find that I have been logged in!? What is this?
RE: Application client log in
You
use the rolemanager to do the login ... SECURITY_PRINCIPAL and credentials can
be the orion admin account.
Hashtable env = new
Hashtable();env.put("dedicated.connection","true");env.put("java.naming.factory.initial","com.evermind.server.ApplicationClientInitialContextFactory");
env.put("java.naming.provider.url","ormi://myhost/myapp");
env.put(javax.naming.Context.SECURITY_PRINCIPAL,
"someuserwithrmiprivilages"); // NOT the user you want to log
inenv.put(javax.naming.Context.SECURITY_CREDENTIALS,"somepassword");
InitialContext initialcontext = new
InitialContext(env); RoleManager
rolemanager =
(RoleManager)initialcontext.lookup("java:comp/RoleManager");
try
{
roleManager.login(username,
password);
} catch(Exception
exception)
{ throw
new
SecurityException(exception.getMessage());
}
There is a lot of discussion about this in the archives and e.g.
on the Elephantwalkers site, as well as orionsupport and I think
Atlassian.
-Original Message-From: Randahl Fink Isaksen
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:22
AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: Application client log
in
We are
currently implementing a Java Swing client, and I am wondering how to write
the log in system. When not using http or form based log in (HTML) and when
you wish to let the client log in from a GUI interface (Swing), which part of
Orion is then used to hand over the username and password for
authorization?
Randahl
Re: [announce] Log4J Appender for Orion's application.log
reports itself in the correct context, so you can see how they happened. Yes and a nice feature. To be production quality we'd need file size roll-over and max-number of log file aging... Hmmm, this could be externalized in a script IF orion's logger didn't keep the file descriptor open between writes (probably does). curt
FW: [Ofbiz-devel] OFBiz Performance on various app servers afteroptimizing OFBiz
More performance tests from the OFBiz guys - this time they're much more interesting for Orion users! The most interesting stat sections are the sheer performance (where Orion absolutely wallops the competition) and price/performance. (quoting - sheer performance) Here they are, in order from fastest to slowest: Orion 1.5.3: 0.045s (45 milliseconds) - 444 pages/sec - 1.6 million/hour Resin 2.0.4: 0.065s (65 milliseconds) - 307 pages/sec - 1.1 million/hour Weblogic 6.1: 1.15s (1,150 milliseconds) - 17.4 pages/sec - 62,640/hour Tomcat 4.0.1: 3.3s (3,300 milliseconds) - 6 pages/sec - 21,600/hour (quoting - price/performance including $850 for a decent server) Resin 2.0.4: 1.1million/(500 + 850) = 814 Orion 1.5.3: 1.6million/(1500 + 850) = 680 Tomcat 4.0.1: 21,600/(0 + 850) = 25.4 Weblogic 6.1: 62,640/(10,000 + 850) = 5.77 (please remember here that Resin 2.0.4 is a servlet/jsp container, whereas Orion is a full J2EE server so they have slightly different feature sets despite comparing very favourably on price/performance). Hope this is interesting to others! Cheers, Mike PS Next time someone tells you that JBoss+Tomcat can outperform Orion, you have some excellent data to prove them wrong PPS Wise man once say anyone who trusts benchmark tests absolutely is a fool - test yourself, on your own apps! -- Forwarded Message From: David E. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Open For Business Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 17:09:51 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ofbiz-devel] OFBiz Performance on various app servers after optimizing OFBiz Last night I sent a message to the ofbiz-devel list reporting the results of some performance enhancements in OFBiz from optimizing certain little pieces of code. I did some more tests today on the speed of the new improved OFBiz on various app servers. The following numbers are average server response times with 20 threads continuously hitting the server (ie when each thread gets a response it immediately sends another hit, keeping about 20 requests in the queue at all times). The test was done with JMeter on one computer and the app server OFBiz on my PIII 1Ghz laptop. Running Linux (kernel 2.4.10, Suse 7.3) and Sun's JDK 1.4 for all but Weblogic, which requires JDK 1.3, and yes 1.4 is slightly (like 5%) faster. The page hit was ecommerce/control/main with the default catalog. It had two products in the Featured Products category and two top level categories displayed on the side. This isn't a very realistic test for large catalogs, but is a medium sized page to test the app server container preformance. Here they are, in order from fastest to slowest: Orion 1.5.3: 0.045s (45 milliseconds) - 444 pages/sec - 1.6 million/hour Resin 2.0.4: 0.065s (65 milliseconds) - 307 pages/sec - 1.1 million/hour Weblogic 6.1: 1.15s (1,150 milliseconds) - 17.4 pages/sec - 62,640/hour Tomcat 4.0.1: 3.3s (3,300 milliseconds) - 6 pages/sec - 21,600/hour The pages per second counts are calculated as follows: (1/avg. time)*20, because of the 20 continuous threads hitting it. As you can see Orion Resin perform very similarly but Weblogic and Tomcat are left in the dust. Before optimizing OFBiz Weblogic was the fastest, coming in about twice as fast as Orion and Resin. I know from past (good?) experience with Weblogic that they have a lot of tuning parameters, so chances are you can increase the thread pool size or something to get it to go faster. I reduced the number of threads hitting it and it did somewhat better, but never came close to the speed of Orion or Resin, it's webapp container must be just plain heavier. For the $10,000 per CPU range, I think I'll pass, even though I'm sure it can do better than what it was in this test (I don't think it'll ever touch Orion or Resin for webapp speed). Tomcat was by far the slowest. It seemed to run all right for a little while, and then have little periods of slowness where page times jumped up from an average of about 2 seconds to an average of about 5 seconds. Over the minute it levelled out to about 3.3 seconds as listed above. So, which to choose? If you need EJB and other features that Orion provides and want to pay more for them ($1500 per server), then go for it. It is a little bit difficult to configure (or maybe it's just me?), but it runs REALLY well. If you have a smaller budget and are fine with Tyrex (open source from Exolab) as your DB connection pool and TX monitor, then go for Resin. OFBiz runs great on it, and it's only $500 per server. On price/performance Resin wins (pages per second/dollars): Resin: 1.1million/500 = 2200 Orion: 1.6million/1500 = 1066 Weblogic: 62,640/10,000 = 6.264 Tomcat: 21,600/0 = N/A With that sort of calculation you could argue that Tomcat really does win, beacuse it costs nothing so the (pages per second/dollars) would be infinite, effectively. But lets factor in the cost of a server. A cheap PIII 1Ghz supported
FW: [Ofbiz-devel] Re: [Ofbiz-users] OFBiz Performance on variousapp servers after optimizing OFBiz
FYI so in other words the price [of Orion] scales much better. Cheers, Mike Mike Cannon-Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Atlassian :: www.atlassian.com Supporting YOUR world -- Forwarded Message From: David E. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Open For Business Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:01:20 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Ofbiz-devel] Re: [Ofbiz-users] OFBiz Performance on various app servers after optimizing OFBiz One other thing I forgot to mention about Orion. It DOES perform better than Resin, 1.6e6/hour compared to 1.1e6/hour, that's like 50% faster, and the cost of both Orion and Resin is per box. Hypothetically lets say you had a four processor box running OFBiz with either Orion or Resin. Looking at prices at Dell (even though you can do much better...) a four processor PowerEdge 6400 server with 4 Pentium III Xeon 700Mhz chips with 1Mb cache and 2Gb RAM will run you pretty close to $15,000. I'm not SURE what the performance would be like on something like that compared to something like the PIII 1Ghz, certainly not 15 times as fast (I guess it could be), let's say it's 10 times as fast (to keep it easy). In that case you would be delivering 16 million hits an hour with Orion and 11 million an hour with Resin. So, we do our little analysis again: Orion 1.5.3: 16million/(1500 + 15,000) = 969 Resin 2.0.4: 11million/(500 + 15,000) = 709 Weblogic 6.1: 626,400/(10,000 + 15,000) = 25.1 Tomcat 4.0.1: 216,000/(0 + 15,000) = 14.4 So, Resin is more expensive in hits per hour per dollar on a bigger server than a smaller server, while Orion is fast enough that it is cheaper in hits per hour per dollar on the bigger server, and it a much better deal than Resin there, so in other words the price scales much better. Later, -David Jones On Thursday 07 February 2002 17:32, you wrote: Mike, Those are very valuable $0.02, and I completely agree. In the paragraph on Orion I mentioned that because of such a little difference, if you need the extra things that Orion has, definately go for it. If all you need it a Servlet container (and use Tyrex for JTA and pooling, and OFBiz for other stuff), then Resin seems to be the best choice. If a shop already has Orion and is using it for other things, they can be sure they made a good choice, in my opinion. Later, -David On Thursday 07 February 2002 17:23, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote: These performance tests are really valuable - but I'd like to point out that you don't take features into account ;) Woe betide me to start applying numerical calculations to relative feature sets - but I think the below shows that really your choice is between a J2EE server and a Servlet Container (Orion vs Resin). The others are just also-rans. The cost/performance differences are negligible, but the feature sets of these two servers are quite different. (With Orion you get a full EJB container, JMS server, etc etc which you don't get with Resin). Before this starts sounding too much like an ad ;) I'll stop - but choose your features, then your server - not the other way around! My $0.02. -mike On 8/2/02 11:09 AM, David E. Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned the words: Last night I sent a message to the ofbiz-devel list reporting the results of some performance enhancements in OFBiz from optimizing certain little pieces of code. I did some more tests today on the speed of the new improved OFBiz on various app servers. The following numbers are average server response times with 20 threads continuously hitting the server (ie when each thread gets a response it immediately sends another hit, keeping about 20 requests in the queue at all times). The test was done with JMeter on one computer and the app server OFBiz on my PIII 1Ghz laptop. Running Linux (kernel 2.4.10, Suse 7.3) and Sun's JDK 1.4 for all but Weblogic, which requires JDK 1.3, and yes 1.4 is slightly (like 5%) faster. The page hit was ecommerce/control/main with the default catalog. It had two products in the Featured Products category and two top level categories displayed on the side. This isn't a very realistic test for large catalogs, but is a medium sized page to test the app server container preformance. Here they are, in order from fastest to slowest: Orion 1.5.3: 0.045s (45 milliseconds) - 444 pages/sec - 1.6 million/hour Resin 2.0.4: 0.065s (65 milliseconds) - 307 pages/sec - 1.1 million/hour Weblogic 6.1: 1.15s (1,150 milliseconds) - 17.4 pages/sec - 62,640/hour Tomcat 4.0.1: 3.3s (3,300 milliseconds) - 6 pages/sec - 21,600/hour The pages per second counts are calculated as follows: (1/avg. time)*20, because of the 20 continuous threads hitting it. As you can see Orion Resin perform very similarly but Weblogic and Tomcat are left in the dust. Before optimizing OFBiz Weblogic was
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