RE: Inprise AppServer vs Orion
I'm in the same boat. JBoss didn't work for us, too slow. JRun is crap. So we are moving to Borland (Inprise). I used IAS in a project last year that never got deployed. I thought it was great. Very fast, Built on a true CORBA foundation, and very, I mean VERY good support. I have not yet ported our current system from Orion to BAS (Borland Application Server), to get pa performance comparison. I will be doing that in a couple of weeks. I'll post when I get results. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:24 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Inprise AppServer vs Orion Hi all, I am pushing hard to get Orion included in the last shortlist for our next product. Only because of the support issues(that everyone here understands),my manager is inclined to consider something like Inprise Appserver as a better alternative.. Now,could anyone here give me some figures,opinions ,etc about the performance of Inprise Appserver. How does it compare with Orion in terms of the key evaluation factors?(i understand, we would know which factors are more important for us...still) We have to have two major applications hosted on the appserver as part of the product deployment. The first one is not a real 'web' app. It has ejbs being accessed by distributed components and mix of some database and proprietary back end. The second application is a web application with servlet/jsp/corba components We have pretty strict performance requirements for both of these...And the first application has to have high availability as well... Any sort of suggestions, pointers,data,exclamations would be of high value Thanks, Jobin
RE: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive well!
Or like a rock band that had one hit single and are never heard from again. -Original Message- From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:02 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive well! How many people are actually working on Orion, and what is their forte? Most likely, it is probably developed and maintain by a small number (maybe under six). Sure, they are successful, and sell, but they could sell more. Think up them as an up and coming rock group. Add a good manager (CEO with a good business plan) and a promoter (a great technical writer working the documentation), and suddenly you have U2.
JBoss verses Orion
I ported our Orion application to JBoss. I love JBoss for usability, documentation and support. Unfortunately our application is very performance dependent the JBoss version ran very slow. After playing with cache setting, etc. It seemed like the communications was the main bottle neck. To test this I wrote a simple session bean with one get method that returns a Long. The client looped 10,000 times calling the getter. The Orion version was 6 times faster! Other tests we ran had Orion running 4x faster. It seems that JBoss certainly is performance limited. I'm running on a 900 MHz PIII under Linux with Sun's JDK 1.3 Paul Fink
RE: [JBoss-user] JBoss verses Orion
Oh sorry I should have said. Jboss 2.1 binary (down loaded March 22) Orion is 1.3.8 -Original Message- From: Dan Christopherson To: 'jBoss' Cc: 'Orion-Interest' Sent: 3/30/01 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss verses Orion What version of JBoss? If 2.1 (beta) the latest binary or a build from source? If source, what date? Earlier this year there were some performance problems stomped, but I haven't done any testing for performance. On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Fink, Paul wrote: I ported our Orion application to JBoss. I love JBoss for usability, documentation and support. Unfortunately our application is very performance dependent the JBoss version ran very slow. After playing with cache setting, etc. It seemed like the communications was the main bottle neck. To test this I wrote a simple session bean with one get method that returns a Long. The client looped 10,000 times calling the getter. The Orion version was 6 times faster! Other tests we ran had Orion running 4x faster. It seems that JBoss certainly is performance limited. I'm running on a 900 MHz PIII under Linux with Sun's JDK 1.3 Paul Fink ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user -- Dan Christopherson (danch) nVisia Technical Architect (www.nvisia.com) Opinions expressed are mine and do not neccessarily reflect any position or opinion of nVISIA. --- If you're a capitalist and you have the best goods and they're free, you don't have to proselytize, you just have to wait. -Eben Moglen ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Pointbase
Anybody got a working database-schema file for PointBase?
RE: Jikes 1.12 compiled code is bad!
I use jikes 1.12 (8/1/2000) under Linux with JDK 1.3.0 works fine. -Original Message- From: Adam Cassar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:21 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Jikes 1.12 compiled code is bad! I am using jikes v1.13 on linux with no problems here On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 02:52:14PM -0700, Mike Fontenot wrote: I've been developing on Win2K, and deploying on Solaris. Works fine. I was using Jikes version 1.07 to compile my classes. Just switched to Jikes version 1.12 and now orion is breaking during startup. If I compile my classes with 1.12 and try to start orion, orion itself dies with an error message related to ArrayOutOfBounds. It never initializes or loads any ejbs, nothing. If I go back and recompile everything with 1.07 again, it works fine. Has anyone see this? I've searched the mail archive regarding this error and I've found somewhat related messages, but no real answers/solutions. Thanks in advance, Mike -- Adam Cassar Technical Development Manager ___ NetRegistry http://www.netregistry.au.com Tel: +61 2 9641 8609 | Fax: +61 2 9699 6088 PO Box 270 Broadway NSW 2007 Australia
RE: Any news from Orion yet??
So, no good news then, eh? -Original Message- From: Robert Krueger [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 8:11 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet?? At 11:33 02.02.2001 , you wrote: Any news from Orion yet?? Two weeks and nothing ... well, the only news is 1.4.5. (-) Robert Krger (-) SIGNAL 7 Gesellschaft fr Informationstechnologie mbH (-) Brder-Knau-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt, (-) Tel: 06151 665401, Fax: 06151 665373 (-) [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.signal7.de
RE: Postgress Performance
Thanks, I had tried these with little improvement. After looking at pgbench.c and reading other comments my conclusion is that postgres is this slow on doing inserts. The fast means of inserts a lot of data is to use COPY which is not useful for creating beans. It looks like my best bet is to ether switch to HSQL or at least use a combination of Postgres and HSQL. -Original Message- From: Sach Jobb [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 1:42 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Postgress Performance It could be a performance issue with Postgres. By default Postgres uses a "paranoid" setting that writes each transaction to disk immediately after the transaction is completed. This is done to protect the integrity of the database, as at anytime the database could go down and data could be lost. However, when dealing with large numbers of transaction this can severely impair performance. So, you can disable it by changing your postmaster line to something like this: postmaster -o -F -D /mypath/to/datadir You can also get a little speed out of detaching from the tty you started it from by using the "-S" switch. And, of course, in terms of performance when deploying you should really tweak the number of backend connections. Hope that helps. thanks, sach %s/windows/linux/g On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Paul Fink wrote: In general Orion and postgres seem to work well together but I have a problem with the performance of inserts. As the size of the table increases the rate at which I can do inserts, or bean creates, decreases dramatically. I have a very simple Alarm entity bean with a single Long as the primary key. Running under Linux on a PIII. When I start with an empty table I can create new Alarm beans at a rate of about 40/sec. When the table reaches 10K entries the rate is down to 10/sec and continues to drop. I have the entity bean wrapped by a session bean and I do several creates per transaction. The only trick I've found for speeding up postgress is the "-o -F" flag which I've done.
RE: Any news from Orion yet??
Well the best thing about WL is you don't have to worry about support... There isn't any!!! No real they have some of the worst support I have ever seen. -Original Message- From: Santosh Kumar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:57 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet?? Hi kevin, As far as i have known WL5.1 or , there is no concept of ear files, does 6.0 include that. Doesn't the J2EE mandate (I am not sure!) the use of EAR = WAR + JAR + CAR(or JAR)? To deploy the JPS1.1.1 on Orion, it is a piece of cake, while deploying on WLS, i have to unpack the EAR files and dis-integrate them which is contrary to the essence of packaging the ear files, Even meddling with the ugly weblogic.properties frustrates one and all. Is that true with all WLS users? Orion is a neat impl of J2EE, is WLS6.0? Regards, Santosh. - Original Message - From: Kevin Duffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:07 PM Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? I am not one to advocate another product, but WL6 looks nice. It is easy to work with compared to WL5.1. Orion is still the best. JBoss looks very interesting as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neville Burnell Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 2:26 PM To: Orion-Interest Cc: Orion-Interest Subject: FW: Any news from Orion yet?? Yes - pls Orion people, publish some news update Orion ... We are looking to buy at least 3 licences over the next few weeks if everything is ok Cheers Neville Burnell Business Manager Software -Original Message- From: Duffey, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 14 January 2001 12:45 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Any news from Orion yet?? Hi all, Has anyone heard from the team lately? I know I saw a post about a month or so ago. Its been about 3 or 4 months since anything has changed on their site, if not longer and now its getting me worried. I can understand them trying to organize the company, but did production stop on the app server? I wish there was some news once every couple of weeks or so from them on their site letting us know what is happening. Thanks.
Entity Bean to XML
How can I marshal an entity bean into XML. I'm trying to use Castor and I can get it to work if I marshal a dependent object but how can I marshal the whole entity bean?
