Re: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names
Hi!: I also asked the same question and also seen people asking same question. What i understand from all this conversations or mail going back and forth is that whether orion is suitable for ISP? This question should be answered by technical or development team of orion. Is it a good idea to put some docs about practical application of orion and realtime configuration in different scenario. I think there should be *.xml config file s for different scenarios. thanks Devendra --- Dave Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have one physical machine with one IP address. > This one ip address is > associated with three domain names. Each domain name > should pull up a > different web-site. > > > I currently have 3 web-sites defined in server.xml: > > /> > path="c:\@web\@OrionConfig\web-site-2.xml" /> > /> > > I then have three web-site-x.xml files defined. It's > not clear what the > value of the host and virtual-hosts attributes > should be for each of these > three files. I have read the docs and the faq but > still can't get it to > work. > > I tried this: > > In web-site-1.xml: host="www.domainName1.com" > > In web-site-2.xml: host="www.domainName2.com" > > In web-site-3.xml: host="www.domainName3.com" > > > > And this: > > In web-site-1.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName1.com"> > In web-site-2.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName2.com"> > In web-site-3.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName3.com"> > > It is not obvious to me, based on the docs, how to > set this up. Any > suggestions? > > Dave Ford > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
RE: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names
Under HTTP/1.1 it is possible to run multiple sites on port 80, from the same IP address. The host header name (ie. domain name) is used to distinguish between each site. I don't know what the support in Orion is for host header names, but also be aware that some older browsers may not work correctly if they are not HTTP/1.1 compliant. George GEORGE HOLMES TWI Interactive Media House Burlington Lane LONDON W4 2TH ENGLAND TEL: +44 208 233 5631 FAX: +44 208 233 7701 CELL: +44 7968 918813 -Original Message- From: Christof Baumgärtner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 2:51 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names "Duffey, Kevin" wrote: > Actually, Orion has the ability to work with Virtual Domains. I forget > exactly how this works, It's pretty easy. Starting with browser versions 3 the browsers included not only the URI (like it is specified in HTTP/0.9 already) but the full URL into the HTTP request. So the full hostname is contained in the HTTP request header. Virtual servers (this type of server is often called "software virtual servers") can then find out which domain to answer by parsing the HTTP headers. You can see the limitations of this neat trick by simulating a HTTP request without the full HTTP headers. Just do a telnet to all your virtual servers on port 80 (or on whatever server the port is running on) and do a GET request for a document (for example "GET /index.html"). The answer for all these requests will be the same. > but you can use one IP to bind to many domain names, > by setting up each domain as a virtual domain. This is much like how ISPs > allow each of their clients to have their own www.mycompany.com route to > their IP address, and then direct the web requests to the /~user_name > directory. Orion is capable of doing this, but you'll probably have to look > at the archives of emails on how to do this for sure. I am pretty sure you > need to set something in the orion-web.xml and/or the /confid/web-site.xml > files. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Andre Vanha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 3:07 PM > > To: Orion-Interest > > Subject: RE: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names > > > > > > As far as I know what you're trying to accomplish is > > impossible. A web > > server binds to an IP addresses. The domain names are just > > pointers to the > > same IP address. So in effect your're trying to run 3 > > webserver on the same > > exact IP. You could bind to different ports, but then your > > URLs would be > > non-standard. > > To do this correctly you'll need a different IP for each domain. > > > > One possibility that comes to mind, though I have no idea it > > will work, is > > to analyze the URL request in your servlet or JSP and attempt to > > inlcude/forward the appropriate content in your code, > > depending on what you > > find. > > > > Andre V > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Ford > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:33 PM > > To: Orion-Interest > > Subject: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names > > > > > > I have one physical machine with one IP address. This one ip > > address is > > associated with three domain names. Each domain name should pull up a > > different web-site. > > > > > > I currently have 3 web-sites defined in server.xml: > > > > > > > > > > > > I then have three web-site-x.xml files defined. It's not > > clear what the > > value of the host and virtual-hosts attributes should be for > > each of these > > three files. I have read the docs and the faq but still can't > > get it to > > work. > > > > I tried this: > > > > In web-site-1.xml: > > In web-site-2.xml: > > In web-site-3.xml: > > > > > > And this: > > > > In web-site-1.xml: > virtual-hosts="www.domainName1.com"> > > In web-site-2.xml: > virtual-hosts="www.domainName2.com"> > > In web-site-3.xml: > virtual-hosts="www.domainName3.com"> > > > > It is not obvious to me, based on the docs, how to set this up. Any > > suggestions? > > > > Dave Ford > >
Re: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names
"Duffey, Kevin" wrote: > Actually, Orion has the ability to work with Virtual Domains. I forget > exactly how this works, It's pretty easy. Starting with browser versions 3 the browsers included not only the URI (like it is specified in HTTP/0.9 already) but the full URL into the HTTP request. So the full hostname is contained in the HTTP request header. Virtual servers (this type of server is often called "software virtual servers") can then find out which domain to answer by parsing the HTTP headers. You can see the limitations of this neat trick by simulating a HTTP request without the full HTTP headers. Just do a telnet to all your virtual servers on port 80 (or on whatever server the port is running on) and do a GET request for a document (for example "GET /index.html"). The answer for all these requests will be the same. > but you can use one IP to bind to many domain names, > by setting up each domain as a virtual domain. This is much like how ISPs > allow each of their clients to have their own www.mycompany.com route to > their IP address, and then direct the web requests to the /~user_name > directory. Orion is capable of doing this, but you'll probably have to look > at the archives of emails on how to do this for sure. I am pretty sure you > need to set something in the orion-web.xml and/or the /confid/web-site.xml > files. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Andre Vanha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 3:07 PM > > To: Orion-Interest > > Subject: RE: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names > > > > > > As far as I know what you're trying to accomplish is > > impossible. A web > > server binds to an IP addresses. The domain names are just > > pointers to the > > same IP address. So in effect your're trying to run 3 > > webserver on the same > > exact IP. You could bind to different ports, but then your > > URLs would be > > non-standard. > > To do this correctly you'll need a different IP for each domain. > > > > One possibility that comes to mind, though I have no idea it > > will work, is > > to analyze the URL request in your servlet or JSP and attempt to > > inlcude/forward the appropriate content in your code, > > depending on what you > > find. > > > > Andre V > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Ford > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:33 PM > > To: Orion-Interest > > Subject: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names > > > > > > I have one physical machine with one IP address. This one ip > > address is > > associated with three domain names. Each domain name should pull up a > > different web-site. > > > > > > I currently have 3 web-sites defined in server.xml: > > > > > > > > > > > > I then have three web-site-x.xml files defined. It's not > > clear what the > > value of the host and virtual-hosts attributes should be for > > each of these > > three files. I have read the docs and the faq but still can't > > get it to > > work. > > > > I tried this: > > > > In web-site-1.xml: > > In web-site-2.xml: > > In web-site-3.xml: > > > > > > And this: > > > > In web-site-1.xml: > virtual-hosts="www.domainName1.com"> > > In web-site-2.xml: > virtual-hosts="www.domainName2.com"> > > In web-site-3.xml: > virtual-hosts="www.domainName3.com"> > > > > It is not obvious to me, based on the docs, how to set this up. Any > > suggestions? > > > > Dave Ford > >
RE: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names
Actually, Orion has the ability to work with Virtual Domains. I forget exactly how this works, but you can use one IP to bind to many domain names, by setting up each domain as a virtual domain. This is much like how ISPs allow each of their clients to have their own www.mycompany.com route to their IP address, and then direct the web requests to the /~user_name directory. Orion is capable of doing this, but you'll probably have to look at the archives of emails on how to do this for sure. I am pretty sure you need to set something in the orion-web.xml and/or the /confid/web-site.xml files. > -Original Message- > From: Andre Vanha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 3:07 PM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: RE: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names > > > As far as I know what you're trying to accomplish is > impossible. A web > server binds to an IP addresses. The domain names are just > pointers to the > same IP address. So in effect your're trying to run 3 > webserver on the same > exact IP. You could bind to different ports, but then your > URLs would be > non-standard. > To do this correctly you'll need a different IP for each domain. > > One possibility that comes to mind, though I have no idea it > will work, is > to analyze the URL request in your servlet or JSP and attempt to > inlcude/forward the appropriate content in your code, > depending on what you > find. > > Andre V > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Ford > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:33 PM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names > > > I have one physical machine with one IP address. This one ip > address is > associated with three domain names. Each domain name should pull up a > different web-site. > > > I currently have 3 web-sites defined in server.xml: > > > > > > I then have three web-site-x.xml files defined. It's not > clear what the > value of the host and virtual-hosts attributes should be for > each of these > three files. I have read the docs and the faq but still can't > get it to > work. > > I tried this: > > In web-site-1.xml: > In web-site-2.xml: > In web-site-3.xml: > > > And this: > > In web-site-1.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName1.com"> > In web-site-2.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName2.com"> > In web-site-3.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName3.com"> > > It is not obvious to me, based on the docs, how to set this up. Any > suggestions? > > Dave Ford >
RE: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names
What are you guys talking about? I have orion running 10 web sites on same IP. Use Virtual-Hosting.Did i misunderstand your question? http://www.orionserver.com/docs/web-site.xml.html virtual hosting works by checking the host in the request.if it sees the virtual-host listed in the particular web-site.xml fileit will work as you expect.. This should be a very simple functionjust set all IPs to the sameI personally do not use the [ALL] specification on the port ever...because I have apache web server running some of my legacy sites on the same machine.but soon I will be 100% J2EE David At 06:46 PM 9/27/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hi, > I experienced the same problem and i couldn't find the solution. > A suggestion.. >1. install iis or apache as main webserver and configure the virtual hosts. >2. run orion as a second server on different port >and you know from there.. > >Sarathy > >> >>As far as I know what you're trying to accomplish is impossible. A web >>server binds to an IP addresses. The domain names are just pointers to the >>same IP address. So in effect your're trying to run 3 webserver on the same >>exact IP. You could bind to different ports, but then your URLs would be >>non-standard. >>To do this correctly you'll need a different IP for each domain. >> >>One possibility that comes to mind, though I have no idea it will work, is >>to analyze the URL request in your servlet or JSP and attempt to >>inlcude/forward the appropriate content in your code, depending on what you >>find. >> >>Andre V >> >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Ford >>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:33 PM >>To: Orion-Interest >>Subject: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names >> >> >>I have one physical machine with one IP address. This one ip address is >>associated with three domain names. Each domain name should pull up a >>different web-site. >> >> >>I currently have 3 web-sites defined in server.xml: >> >> >> >> >> >>I then have three web-site-x.xml files defined. It's not clear what the >>value of the host and virtual-hosts attributes should be for each of these >>three files. I have read the docs and the faq but still can't get it to >>work. >> >>I tried this: >> >>In web-site-1.xml: >>In web-site-2.xml: >>In web-site-3.xml: >> >> >>And this: >> >>In web-site-1.xml: >virtual-hosts="www.domainName1.com"> >>In web-site-2.xml: >virtual-hosts="www.domainName2.com"> >>In web-site-3.xml: >virtual-hosts="www.domainName3.com"> >> >>It is not obvious to me, based on the docs, how to set this up. Any >>suggestions? >> >>Dave Ford >> > >_ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. >
RE: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names
This is not correct. It is absolutely possible to have several hosts on one IP address. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andre Vanha > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 2:07 AM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: RE: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names > > > As far as I know what you're trying to accomplish is impossible. A web > server binds to an IP addresses. The domain names are just > pointers to the > same IP address. So in effect your're trying to run 3 webserver > on the same > exact IP. You could bind to different ports, but then your URLs would be > non-standard. > To do this correctly you'll need a different IP for each domain. > > One possibility that comes to mind, though I have no idea it will work, is > to analyze the URL request in your servlet or JSP and attempt to > inlcude/forward the appropriate content in your code, depending > on what you > find. > > Andre V > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Ford > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:33 PM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names > > > I have one physical machine with one IP address. This one ip address is > associated with three domain names. Each domain name should pull up a > different web-site. > > > I currently have 3 web-sites defined in server.xml: > > > > > > I then have three web-site-x.xml files defined. It's not clear what the > value of the host and virtual-hosts attributes should be for each of these > three files. I have read the docs and the faq but still can't get it to > work. > > I tried this: > > In web-site-1.xml: > In web-site-2.xml: > In web-site-3.xml: > > > And this: > > In web-site-1.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName1.com"> > In web-site-2.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName2.com"> > In web-site-3.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName3.com"> > > It is not obvious to me, based on the docs, how to set this up. Any > suggestions? > > Dave Ford > >
RE: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names
Hi, I experienced the same problem and i couldn't find the solution. A suggestion.. 1. install iis or apache as main webserver and configure the virtual hosts. 2. run orion as a second server on different port and you know from there.. Sarathy > >As far as I know what you're trying to accomplish is impossible. A web >server binds to an IP addresses. The domain names are just pointers to the >same IP address. So in effect your're trying to run 3 webserver on the >same >exact IP. You could bind to different ports, but then your URLs would be >non-standard. >To do this correctly you'll need a different IP for each domain. > >One possibility that comes to mind, though I have no idea it will work, is >to analyze the URL request in your servlet or JSP and attempt to >inlcude/forward the appropriate content in your code, depending on what you >find. > >Andre V > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Ford >Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:33 PM >To: Orion-Interest >Subject: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names > > >I have one physical machine with one IP address. This one ip address is >associated with three domain names. Each domain name should pull up a >different web-site. > > >I currently have 3 web-sites defined in server.xml: > > > > > >I then have three web-site-x.xml files defined. It's not clear what the >value of the host and virtual-hosts attributes should be for each of these >three files. I have read the docs and the faq but still can't get it to >work. > >I tried this: > >In web-site-1.xml: >In web-site-2.xml: >In web-site-3.xml: > > >And this: > >In web-site-1.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName1.com"> >In web-site-2.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName2.com"> >In web-site-3.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName3.com"> > >It is not obvious to me, based on the docs, how to set this up. Any >suggestions? > >Dave Ford > > _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names
As far as I know what you're trying to accomplish is impossible. A web server binds to an IP addresses. The domain names are just pointers to the same IP address. So in effect your're trying to run 3 webserver on the same exact IP. You could bind to different ports, but then your URLs would be non-standard. To do this correctly you'll need a different IP for each domain. One possibility that comes to mind, though I have no idea it will work, is to analyze the URL request in your servlet or JSP and attempt to inlcude/forward the appropriate content in your code, depending on what you find. Andre V -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Ford Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:33 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names I have one physical machine with one IP address. This one ip address is associated with three domain names. Each domain name should pull up a different web-site. I currently have 3 web-sites defined in server.xml: I then have three web-site-x.xml files defined. It's not clear what the value of the host and virtual-hosts attributes should be for each of these three files. I have read the docs and the faq but still can't get it to work. I tried this: In web-site-1.xml: In web-site-2.xml: In web-site-3.xml: And this: In web-site-1.xml: In web-site-2.xml: In web-site-3.xml: It is not obvious to me, based on the docs, how to set this up. Any suggestions? Dave Ford
RE: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names
The second one here is correct. I have 12 domains running on one IP and it works perfectly. Mike > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Ford > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:33 AM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names > > > I have one physical machine with one IP address. This one ip address is > associated with three domain names. Each domain name should pull up a > different web-site. > > > I currently have 3 web-sites defined in server.xml: > > > > > > I then have three web-site-x.xml files defined. It's not clear what the > value of the host and virtual-hosts attributes should be for each of these > three files. I have read the docs and the faq but still can't get it to > work. > > I tried this: > > In web-site-1.xml: > In web-site-2.xml: > In web-site-3.xml: > > > And this: > > In web-site-1.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName1.com"> > In web-site-2.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName2.com"> > In web-site-3.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName3.com"> > > It is not obvious to me, based on the docs, how to set this up. Any > suggestions? > > Dave Ford > > >
Re: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names
Hello Dave, Dave Ford wrote: > I have one physical machine with one IP address. This one ip address is > associated with three domain names. Each domain name should pull up a > different web-site. > > I currently have 3 web-sites defined in server.xml: > > > > > > I then have three web-site-x.xml files defined. It's not clear what the > value of the host and virtual-hosts attributes should be for each of these > three files. I have read the docs and the faq but still can't get it to > work. > > I tried this: > > In web-site-1.xml: > In web-site-2.xml: > In web-site-3.xml: > > And this: > > In web-site-1.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName1.com"> > In web-site-2.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName2.com"> > In web-site-3.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName3.com"> > This 2nd one is correct, but you only need to give the host attribute if you just want to listen to one of multiple IP:s on the server. in one and in another is enough (but of course you also want the other web-site to do something differently from the first, like have other applications and content deployed) Regards, Karl Avedal
Re: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names
Your second example is the correct one. You can also set the host value to "[ALL]" to make things easier. - Original Message - From: "Dave Ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:33 PM Subject: One IP - 3 Sites - 3 Domain Names > I have one physical machine with one IP address. This one ip address is > associated with three domain names. Each domain name should pull up a > different web-site. > > > I currently have 3 web-sites defined in server.xml: > > > > > > I then have three web-site-x.xml files defined. It's not clear what the > value of the host and virtual-hosts attributes should be for each of these > three files. I have read the docs and the faq but still can't get it to > work. > > I tried this: > > In web-site-1.xml: > In web-site-2.xml: > In web-site-3.xml: > > > And this: > > In web-site-1.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName1.com"> > In web-site-2.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName2.com"> > In web-site-3.xml: virtual-hosts="www.domainName3.com"> > > It is not obvious to me, based on the docs, how to set this up. Any > suggestions? > > Dave Ford > >
