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Title: SV: SV: Not authorized to view this page please get me off this list ...I'm switching domain names and I would not want to send a delivery DEMON to this list...I will enlist with the new email...thanks ...hope its enough time to delete my email... - Original Message - From: Magnus Rydin To: Orion-Interest Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 2:20 AM Subject: SV: SV: Not authorized to view this page Now can someone please make me an Arm Linux JDK 1.2 so that I can run Orion on a IPAC/Yopy?! :) WR -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Ernst de Haan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Skickat: den 16 februari 2001 12:08 Till: Orion-Interest Ämne: Re: SV: Not authorized to view this page Hi, I would like to express my happiness wrt the fact that Orion is 100% pure Java code (not the TM-version of that term, perhaps) so it runs on my FreeBSD box too, with different JDKs (including FreeBSD JDK 1.2.2b10, Sun Linux JDK 1.3.0/1.3.0_01, Blackdown JDK 1.2, etc.) Actually we plan bringing our J2EE application server online in a few months on a FreeBSD box. It may not have the best Java implementation available, but we've run our prototypes on it for months, without any problems (no crashes whatsoever). Thanks guys! (hail hail!) ;) -- Ernst Tim Endres wrote: Orion's performance relative to other J2EE products is debatable, but I believe it is at the very top, if not the fastest. In addition, Orion is pure Java, so it is very portable (I actually develop on my Win98 laptop). I wanted to follow up and expound on this last parenthetical comment. I can't say enough about being able to run our entire application on a single Win98 box! It means that we can setup a demo on a portable PC, and have a marketing person show up at a meeting and run a full demo from that portable. We do not need an internet connection, nor a $10,000 machine. Also, this means that developers can take work home with them, and not worry about their connection to the office. It also means that developers can work complete independent of each other, without stepping on eachother with every little change to the deployment. If Orion were used only for development and demos, and your application was then deployed on a different app server, I think it is worth the $1500! tim.
Re: SV: Not authorized to view this page
Like most "semi-open" products, the old saying, "You get what you pay for" applies somewhat with Orion; however, considering you pay nothing for the developer license and the developer license is infinite, it's a bargain. There may not be much documentation, but this friendly orion-interest forum is generally much more responsive and accurate than the support I've experienced from WebLogic, WebSphere and IPlanet support. The vendors (BEA, IBM, and Sun) are much more likely to hide critical problems from developers. Note that these other products range in retail price from around $10,000 (WebLogic and WebSphere) to $35,000 (IPlanet) US dollars PER CPU, not the bargain price of $1500 PER PLATFORM for Orion. The total cost for IPlanet on a 64-processor Sun E-1 would be a over $2 million (not including the database)! These costs do not include the backend database. HypersonicSQL is totally free and is also totally Java, though it may be going through a transition regarding support and future maintenance. I've seen that many Orion users have had success with another open database, PostgreSQL, that offers commercial (for a price) support. Orion's performance relative to other J2EE products is debatable, but I believe it is at the very top, if not the fastest. In addition, Orion is pure Java, so it is very portable (I actually develop on my Win98 laptop). Orion also compares very well when you consider that some of the grossly overpriced products do not even support EAR and WAR files directly. Other great features include automatic reconfiguration when XML config files are changed, automatic detection and deployment of new/changed WAR and EAR files, and the ability to develop enterprise and web applications in directories (in lieu of deploying EAR and WAR files). I can go on and on. Say what you will, Orion works for me. You're welcome to use the others -- just don't forget to bring your checkbook! Jay Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:03 AM 2/16/01 +0100, you wrote: Dont be disapointed at the _product_ because a _tutorial_ lacks some information :)-Ursprungligt meddelande- Frn: Adamson, Scott[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Skickat: den 15 februari 200113:49 Till: Orion-Interest mne: RE: Not authorized toview this page Ifound the problem, it seem that the global-web-application.xml supplied in thetutorial didn't have an entry for html, I added it. Also had to renameindex.htm to index.html, a little disapointing to have these hasslesconsidering that were talking about a comercial product. -Original Message- From: Magnus Rydin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:24 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: SV: Not authorized to view this page Are the pages protected? Have you added a entry to your principals.xml for the app? What version of Orion are you running? More information needed. WR -Ursprungligt meddelande- Frn: Adamson, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Skickat: den 14 februari 2001 16:05 Till: Orion-Interest mne: Not authorized to view this page I get the message 'Not authorized to view this page' when trying to run the addressbook example from the CMP primer. I believe Orion is working correctly as I can run the orion-primer example. Any help much appreciated. Come on !! Someone must have had a similar problem, I'm running Orion on Win NT workstation trying to access the pge from the same machine, how can I not have access to something on my own machine ?? I've tried loging in as admin (normal account should have admin rights anyway !) no difference. If any Orion support people monitor this list please help as I'm evaluating Orion with the view to deploying it within a 10 server cluster ($$$). regards, Scott.
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Hi Magnus, Scott, Magnus Rydin wrote: Dont be disapointed at the _product_ because a _tutorial_ lacks some information :) ---8--- I found the problem, it seem that the global-web-application.xml supplied in the tutorial didn't have an entry for html, I added it. Also had to rename index.htm to index.html, a little disapointing to have these hassles considering that were talking about a comercial product. Do you consider these bugs in the tutorial? If so, then please report them to the author (me), include some more details, and I will investigate them. As the Orion CMP Primer works for (virtually) everyone, and since I've had some other things on my mind lately, I didn't check the last 5 or so emails with remarks about the primers. Please send your remarks and I will look into the issues. -- Ernst -Original Message- From: Magnus Rydin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:24 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: SV: Not authorized to view this page Are the pages protected? Have you added a entry to your principals.xml for the app? What version of Orion are you running? More information needed. WR -Ursprungligt meddelande- Frn: Adamson, Scott [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Skickat: den 14 februari 2001 16:05 Till: Orion-Interest mne: Not authorized to view this page I get the message 'Not authorized to view this page' when trying to run the addressbook example from the CMP primer. I believe Orion is working correctly as I can run the orion-primer example. Any help much appreciated. Come on !! Someone must have had a similar problem, I'm running Orion on Win NT workstation trying to access the pge from the same machine, how can I not have access to something on my own machine ?? I've tried loging in as admin (normal account should have admin rights anyway !) no difference. If any Orion support people monitor this list please help as I'm evaluating Orion with the view to deploying it within a 10 server cluster ($$$). regards, Scott.
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What's the difference between the commercial version of orion and the standard version (version anyone can download? Are there some disable features in the standard version ? When is orion going to be open source ?. thanks -Original Message- From: Jay Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 8:20 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: SV: Not authorized to view this page Like most "semi-open" products, the old saying, "You get what you pay for" applies somewhat with Orion; however, considering you pay nothing for the developer license and the developer license is infinite, it's a bargain. There may not be much documentation, but this friendly orion-interest forum is generally much more responsive and accurate than the support I've experienced from WebLogic, WebSphere and IPlanet support. The vendors (BEA, IBM, and Sun) are much more likely to hide critical problems from developers. Note that these other products range in retail price from around $10,000 (WebLogic and WebSphere) to $35,000 (IPlanet) US dollars PER CPU, not the bargain price of $1500 PER PLATFORM for Orion. The total cost for IPlanet on a 64-processor Sun E-1 would be a over $2 million (not including the database)! These costs do not include the backend database. HypersonicSQL is totally free and is also totally Java, though it may be going through a transition regarding support and future maintenance. I've seen that many Orion users have had success with another open database, PostgreSQL, that offers commercial (for a price) support. Orion's performance relative to other J2EE products is debatable, but I believe it is at the very top, if not the fastest. In addition, Orion is pure Java, so it is very portable (I actually develop on my Win98 laptop). Orion also compares very well when you consider that some of the grossly overpriced products do not even support EAR and WAR files directly. Other great features include automatic reconfiguration when XML config files are changed, automatic detection and deployment of new/changed WAR and EAR files, and the ability to develop enterprise and web applications in directories (in lieu of deploying EAR and WAR files). I can go on and on. Say what you will, Orion works for me. You're welcome to use the others -- just don't forget to bring your checkbook! Jay Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:03 AM 2/16/01 +0100, you wrote: Dont be disapointed at the _product_ because a _tutorial_ lacks some information :)-Ursprungligt meddelande- Frn: Adamson, Scott[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Skickat: den 15 februari 200113:49 Till: Orion-Interest mne: RE: Not authorized toview this page Ifound the problem, it seem that the global-web-application.xml supplied in thetutorial didn't have an entry for html, I added it. Also had to renameindex.htm to index.html, a little disapointing to have these hasslesconsidering that were talking about a comercial product. -Original Message- From: Magnus Rydin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:24 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: SV: Not authorized to view this page Are the pages protected? Have you added a entry to your principals.xml for the app? What version of Orion are you running? More information needed. WR -Ursprungligt meddelande- Frn: Adamson, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Skickat: den 14 februari 2001 16:05 Till: Orion-Interest mne: Not authorized to view this page I get the message 'Not authorized to view this page' when trying to run the addressbook example from the CMP primer. I believe Orion is working correctly as I can run the orion-primer example. Any help much appreciated. Come on !! Someone must have had a similar problem, I'm running Orion on Win NT workstation trying to access the pge from the same machine, how can I not have access to something on my own machine ?? I've tried loging in as admin (normal account should have admin rights anyway !) no difference. If any Orion support people monitor this list please help as I'm evaluating Orion with the view to deploying it within a 10 server cluster ($$$). regards, Scott.
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Orion's performance relative to other J2EE products is debatable, but I believe it is at the very top, if not the fastest. In addition, Orion is pure Java, so it is very portable (I actually develop on my Win98 laptop). I wanted to follow up and expound on this last parenthetical comment. I can't say enough about being able to run our entire application on a single Win98 box! It means that we can setup a demo on a portable PC, and have a marketing person show up at a meeting and run a full demo from that portable. We do not need an internet connection, nor a $10,000 machine. Also, this means that developers can take work home with them, and not worry about their connection to the office. It also means that developers can work complete independent of each other, without stepping on eachother with every little change to the deployment. If Orion were used only for development and demos, and your application was then deployed on a different app server, I think it is worth the $1500! tim.
Re: SV: Not authorized to view this page
Hi, I would like to express my happiness wrt the fact that Orion is 100% pure Java code (not the TM-version of that term, perhaps) so it runs on my FreeBSD box too, with different JDKs (including FreeBSD JDK 1.2.2b10, Sun Linux JDK 1.3.0/1.3.0_01, Blackdown JDK 1.2, etc.) Actually we plan bringing our J2EE application server online in a few months on a FreeBSD box. It may not have the best Java implementation available, but we've run our prototypes on it for months, without any problems (no crashes whatsoever). Thanks guys! (hail hail!) ;) -- Ernst Tim Endres wrote: Orion's performance relative to other J2EE products is debatable, but I believe it is at the very top, if not the fastest. In addition, Orion is pure Java, so it is very portable (I actually develop on my Win98 laptop). I wanted to follow up and expound on this last parenthetical comment. I can't say enough about being able to run our entire application on a single Win98 box! It means that we can setup a demo on a portable PC, and have a marketing person show up at a meeting and run a full demo from that portable. We do not need an internet connection, nor a $10,000 machine. Also, this means that developers can take work home with them, and not worry about their connection to the office. It also means that developers can work complete independent of each other, without stepping on eachother with every little change to the deployment. If Orion were used only for development and demos, and your application was then deployed on a different app server, I think it is worth the $1500! tim.
Re: SV: Not authorized to view this page
Hi, I would like to express my happiness wrt the fact that Orion is 100% pure Java code (not the TM-version of that term, perhaps) so it runs on my FreeBSD box too, with different JDKs (including FreeBSD JDK 1.2.2b10, Sun Linux JDK 1.3.0/1.3.0_01, Blackdown JDK 1.2, etc.) Actually we plan bringing our J2EE application server online in a few months on a FreeBSD box. It may not have the best Java implementation available, but we've run our prototypes on it for months, without any problems (no crashes whatsoever). Thanks guys! (hail hail!) ;) -- Ernst Tim Endres wrote: Orion's performance relative to other J2EE products is debatable, but I believe it is at the very top, if not the fastest. In addition, Orion is pure Java, so it is very portable (I actually develop on my Win98 laptop). I wanted to follow up and expound on this last parenthetical comment. I can't say enough about being able to run our entire application on a single Win98 box! It means that we can setup a demo on a portable PC, and have a marketing person show up at a meeting and run a full demo from that portable. We do not need an internet connection, nor a $10,000 machine. Also, this means that developers can take work home with them, and not worry about their connection to the office. It also means that developers can work complete independent of each other, without stepping on eachother with every little change to the deployment. If Orion were used only for development and demos, and your application was then deployed on a different app server, I think it is worth the $1500! tim.
